Actually we don't. Most of us laugh at the big yank tanks. Too big, too expensive, too hard to get parts. Just not practical for anything other than city towing
Nobody actually wants a massive truck, they are fun to mess about with, but it isn't at all practical. I can't even park my hilux properly in most places. And also nobody is gonna spend 200k Australian dollars on one of those. I'd rather have 4 hiluxs for that kinda money.
I’ve been driving F250’s for 20 years. The model you have is the short wheelbase. There is a long wheelbase with a full 8’ bed behind the 4 door cab. Impossible to park anywhere. Cheers from Texas!
Best part of owning a F450 King Ranch, most ridiculously tight turning truck made. My F250 needed 2 acres to turn around, go drive a wide track 450-550….. you’ll be extremely impressed
I’m kinda disappointed you’s didn’t push my F-truck way harder !!! 😂👍🏼 But I appreciate you looking after it legends ! Bloody full send next one boys ! 🍻
The term "F-truck" sounds so odd to me. I work with these trucks daily and we usually refer to them by their model like 250 or 350 etc. Example "Are you taking the 250 or the 350 today?" Or we'll refer to them by the weight designation. Example "Are you taking the three quarter or the one ton?"
For those of y’all curious about the F-250 reliability has one specced out for mechanical contracting from 2003 with 500,000 plus miles on it. Had to replace the a/c on it, but it’s still running like the work horse it’s been. I’m from Texas so that’s miles not kilometers
Good segment - I've got a similar F250 to the one you've tested, and I've taken it most places in Aus (Simpson, Cape, Fraser, Tassie etc.), and it did quite a bit off off-road in North America including Mexico and Alaska prior to converting it to RHD and shipping it over. I've also driven a 200 and a 76 quite a bit. Your summary is pretty good. Off-road it's actually genuinely really good and would surprise a lot of people (you just have to not care about your paint too much 😂), just they wallow quite a bit due to their wide track - but they offer a lot of stability as a result. Performance, comfort etc. not much competes (I would easily take it over a 200), and I've not driven anything else now for 10+ years so dailying it in the city isn't too much of a problem (yes, underground carparks you might have to miss). Parts aren't so much a problem as you can pre-order, and stuff like filters are on shelves in more places than you might imagine, and in many cases you might find they are cheaper than equivelant parts for a Cruiser. The fundamental mechanicals (engine, transmission and diffs) in this generation and the newer generation F-trucks are really stout as well too, and it's not let me down over 180k of very hard km. Lastly, the package, while they start a lot more expensive than a 79, when you start extending the chassis, fixing the wheel track, auto conversion, you aren't far off the cost, and you haven't got a 10 speed trans, 6.7l engine, or the big benefit, a cabin that big. The big downsides however are: Finding knowledgable people to work on them in Aus, they exist, but the best bloke near me is 1.5hrs drive away and I live in Melbourne, not around the corner like you might find for a Cruiser (or Patrol, or other ute). Accessory market is different for them, stuff like suspension or gooseneck trailer hitches... you can chose from 5,000 options, but a snorkel, yeah good luck. Lastly, while the fundamental mechanicals are really stout, the use of them in North America is different to outback touring - I've destroyed 3 sets of front hubs from drawing water in some low level water crossings, bent the battery trays etc. from corrugations.
second this. I've got an imported HZJ77 and recently purchased my 2014 F250 (worth noting i chose the F250 over a 2016+ 200 Series. Objectively the F250 is better for my needs.) If I'm going out camping with just my kid(s) or wife, the 77 is the truck of choice. If I'm going out with the whole family, (wife, 2 kids, 2 dogs) the F250 is the ticket. If I absolutely must survive, Cruiser all day every day.
HUBS on truck. I agree with that . We switched them out with WARN s. That's about the only weakness . We just drive the factory ones as normal . Then replace them with WARN s when they start clicking. You can just keep the stock ones locked in all the time. The WARNS are superior. And they do last. All metal. That's the upgrade almost everyone does .
I have a F250 as my daily driver. its is a bit modified on 6 inch lift and 37 tires. But I have no issue driving it around town or on my monthly 1100 mile round trip work commute. If you pluck out the DPF and EGR, and a couple of other bits, it is a very reliable engine / setup and you get a bunch more torque and horsepower out of it when you let it breathe
Extra 950Nm torque on the F250 off the factory than the 79. If we paid the USA prices for the F trucks, rams, Silverados etc etc I bet they’d be more popular than the 79.
Would just bring 70s down to where they should be, would still be heaps of 70s, I could have had either of these and I went with the 70. It’s hard to explain but once you drive one you just want one. They feel solid.
American here. We have a lot less choice in off-road vehicles and diesels are much harder to find/afford. While the "American" vehicles are less common for you they are available to you; many of the rigs that you enjoy are simply not available here. While the large American trucks are nice they are also too large for many tracks which is why I chose the smaller and more capable Jeep Gladiator. If I had to choose between the two trucks that you tested I would choose the 79 because of its novelty in the states but mostly because of its smaller size. My truck/ute is intended and built to drive offroad and I don't want size/weight impeding that. I would love to see you all do a similar comparison against a Jeep Gladiator as I dream of shipping mine to Aus and taking on some of the tracks that you have embedded into my mind. Thanks for the awesome content and for being a breath of fresh air!
@@larsbee for 90% of the trails just go buy a ram power wagon, it will pretty much do everything out the gate. Has factory front and rear locker, sway bar disconnect, and 12,000# winch.
@@archygrey9093 For the most part, long range touring isn't really a thing in the US (at least that's my perception from Southern California). There are a ton of F-250s as well as other full size trucks from Dodge and Chevy, but usually they are relegated to towing the off-road toys more than being the off-road toys themselves. We call anything larger than a Tacoma (Hilux) a full size truck and when you do see them on the trails it's usually as part of a specific event for them ("Full Size Invasion"). Most of the interesting trails near me are short one day trips better suited to smaller more agile vehicles, and because you aren't generally camping on these trails there's no need for the extra room and comfort of a full size.
In the US, the F250 is rated to tow much more than 4500kg (9920 lbs), up to 6,800 kg (15,000 lbs), depending on configuration. If fifth wheel towing, it goes up to 9,000 kg (20,000 lbs). I wonder why it is so underrated in Australia.
Licencing and registration requirements, 4499kg is the most you do on electric braked trailer, after that you need air brakes on the trailer which nessecates a bigger truck to power the air brakes or expensive kits to operate
@@jordanfarrar9955 I figured it was derated. Almost not worth importing, unless you want that added safety factor when towing. A diesel F250 wouldn't even know it was towing a 6,000lb load...
I've been driving F-150's and Silverado's for 25 years (only a few inches different than that 250), and went down to a Tacoma, exactly for the reasons you mentioned.. It is a massive luxury to drive a full size truck every day, but it is also taxing in many ways too. I'm liking the smaller truck and probably will never go back. Cheers from Canada!
Watching Jocko panic while driving/turning around in that F250 had me laughing! I drive my dodge DRW around small roads like that in my town all the time. It’s nothing😁👍😂😂😂 I can parallel park my 36’ 5th wheel and truck in a minute as well😂😂😂 Love the show guys
I’ve got 539,000 (335,000 miles) km’s on my 2006 F250 and it’s going strong. At about 280,000 miles I replaced the power steering and AC condenser, but they were original to the truck and I didn’t think that was too bad. You just got to get used to driving something that big. And while I do not do too much extreme off-roading in mine, it does see dirt and I know there are people here in the states who do take them down real difficult tracks. Just stay out of parking garages.
As a Canadian and used to driving F250/F350 for work and a Toyota Tacoma for my daily, you get used to the size of the big truck city driving. I squeeze my work truck in the tightest streets of downtown Toronto. The trucks are big but having big mirrors help a ton. Tight off-road trails/tracks is where you feel the size difference.
You guys really need to get one of these Fords to take out on the regular show... Be interesting to see how they cope, and compare, with a 300 or Y62 for example.
Great videos! Australia has some really cool places I would love to visit and some really cool 4x4's. As an American I'm used to seeing F-250's everywhere, especially here in Arizona. To see an F250 driving through downtown Phoenix is so common you don't even think about it. I've owned an F250 and an F350 both with V10 gas motors. They were each my daily driving rig. Off-road they are beasts! Slap a set of 35" or 37" tires on them and they are super hard to get stuck: mud, rock, snow, sand you name it they can do it (except for tight spaces). On the other hand to see a LC70 in the USA is like seeing an F250 in Australia. Basically, I think you get used to what you drive.
I was fortunate enough to own a F250 and Land Cruiser,as you guys said,when it gets to get parts,the Cruiser's parts are always available where for the F250 you will have to order from the States and wait a a fair bid of time to get the parts.But besides that I will choose the F250 all day every day,that power under the hood and the space inside the cab is just in a class of it's own.I have 2 boys and like me,the bigger the better,even in town,you just have to adjust to the size of that truck.
2002 f250, space cab extra long tray. Had that as a daily in Adelaide for a while, not easy but you find the right places to park. Also done a lot of touring and towing, love that.
@@lb0178 yeh that’s it. My Silverado 2500 on 35s with no lift looks about right but on a big lift they need minimum 37s or the look like they skipped leg day😂
As an American Wrangler owner, I have to say I'd take the 79. Smaller always wins on tough tracks. Still has heaps of torque and versatile as all heck. Proper tires, full lockers, and a few power upgrades and you're all set.
1 thing I noticed, ya mentioned the starting price. Im more curious how much it would cost to build a twin to eather. My bet is the Ford is better value. Just since its a simple lift, barwork and canopy. The 79 has a damn cut and shut chassis 😄. That aint cheap. The other bs like track correction, interior crap and all the needed improvements to get it to match even a stock F250s abilty for most things. Also the whole "around town" bit is funny, but as someone who dailys a HR tow truck with a trailer sometimes in city's. Ya soft. 😆
@@audoinxr6372 Ha. Secretly wish I had one too. They're easy and heaps of fun to drive round town with that front wheel drive but don't tell anyone I said so. Lol.
I love this, i daily an f250 and watching this cracks me up. You guys should come to The south in the USA and see how many people do parallel park f trucks beside coffee shops or in the bar district. you get pretty good at it when you drive one every day
Great comparison. Make no mistake, that F-truck is an absolute beast of a rig but it is just too big and unwieldly for tight tracks. On the other hand for a family just going on an overland holiday I guess the beast wins. For what you guys, Shauno, Graham and the boys do, stick to the smaller rigs.
The f250 is a $80,000/$115,000 Australian dollar truck here in the U.S. and I didn't realize how small the 79 is compared to the f250. I can find a 2014 f250 for $40,000usd here all day. The price difference is crazy!! Also the factory power is good but with a simple turbo and tune you can double the f250s power.
for the money aspect alone the F-truck gets my vote, and I love my cruisers! But for similar coin you get more power, luxury and it handles the weight better
@@Changedcord: yeah, right. And if you change the factors to a 200 or 300 series with the mods of rear-chop, extended chassis, suspension, GVM, GCM, upgrades, with the tray and canopy system fitted, bull-bar, winch/es, tow-bar, extra wheels and tyres, roof-racks, etc, that 200 or 300 series suddenly becomes a WHOLE LOT more expensive than the Ford F-250/GMC/Chev 2500’s, with suspension and canopy etc setups. Then you have the extra size, power and torque of the larger engines, and they suddenly ARE a MUCH better proposition at prices against the modified Toyotas. Also, from what I have seen and heard, (no, I do not have first-hand knowledge on this) the 79 series cruiser is screaming that diesel motor at over 3500rpm at highway speeds in top gear,(yes, without a trailer), whilst the ‘American’ ‘trucks’ are just simply humming along at low revs like a diesel should.
Hi Guys. Fun video. Thank you. I have a 2013 F350 Overlander and it's a beast of a rig. It's like driving my couch watching the scenic channel. I've taken it down Lippincott Pass in Death Valley, which is considered the hardest trail in Death Valley. My rig has taken me up and down some incredibly hard trails. I live in Las Vegas Nevada. It's also my daily driver. I love my rig 100%. If you guys have any questions about it, let me know. I'll share some pics.
That f250 also comes standard with some awfully stout axels and auto trans, wouldn't have to worry about breaking any of that off roading. Also going to be crazy safe in a collision as the us has super high standards for crash test ratings
I had a lady cross the center and hit me head on. Going 45mph each. Sadly she passed instantly. Her suv was twisted like a can and if it hadn’t bent the front radius arm and busted the radiator…. I could have driven mine home. These Super Duty trucks are absolute tanks.
Being here in the USA I would love the 79! We don’t have access to many Japanese diesel vehicles. Older models are starting to be imported but parts could be an issue and they’re right hand drive. So unless we go with a full size truck we are stuck with gas and limited torque. That is why I ended up with a diesel Chevy Colorado zr2, very similar to Grahams D-max.
I've got an imported HZJ77. It will literally go up any hill, but not at a safe speed by American standards. I was getting passed by semi's climbing the Cumberland gap at 30mph.
@@AFnic I got passed by a semi in my 2021 Tacoma 2.7L 4x4 on my way to Mammoth in CA! Foot to the floor on the 395 I could just maintain 65ish mph or so, engine screaming away. Sold it and now have a GX460 (Land Cruiser Prado), the 4.6 V8 is a dream. The 2.7 was fine at sea level but once you got over 5k ft. in elevation, it really suffered- and most of my off-roading is at 5-10k ft.
Quite happily daily my f250 everywhere. All about getting used to it. Parts are only ever a phone call away to certain people and overnight on a truck. As long as you don't mind a few pinstripes they fit every where a patrol or cruiser will go. For me all the pros heavily outweighed the cons when I went through the same 250vs79 decision 3 years ago.
Great review, having lusted after a 79 series since my first trip to africa and them being almost non-existent in the US. My current off-road adventure rig is an similarly built out F350. Infact i asked Mitz about a tray for mine. Your right about driving in the city and narrow streets and trails, but build them up right and the places they can go will blow your mind. For the ultra tight stuff, i'll take the jeep.
I have a 2006 7.3L v8 f250 and tow a 4500kg 5th wheeler around it's done Tasmania and most of the country. I love it on the tracks it surprises me every time we go out. She is my daily driveer it took some getting used to the size but now I drive around Hervey bay, Brisbane, sunny coast etc no problem.
During fire season we use F350's and for 6 -9 months out of the year they are daily drivers, you quickly get used to the dimensions and a number of my coworkers use heavy one ton truck for their regular drivers off season as well work trucks not trailer queens lol.
Such a fun vid, love getting the perspective of people from other countries on our beloved American trucks. I wheel and camp with an F150 Raptor (not the Ranger, the 86" wide one). Similar to the F250 wheeled in the vid, it might surprise many by being more versatile than you'd think. Tows a 20+ foot travel trailer like it's not even there. SUPER comfortable on long trips and the massive cab lets everyone including the kids and dogs have plenty of space to ride. Offroad the long wheelbase gives mega traction uphill, better than my FJC or 4runner ever had. The downside is tight corners or getting hung up due to poor breakover angle. And anything where weight matters. Also the power cannot be talked about enough. I drove 2 different 200 series land cruisers with the 5.7 back to back with the Raptor. The mighty LC200 is like a snail by comparison. Glad you showed the city driving as well. I live in a small town with big roads, but I drove the truck to San Francisco and it's hilariously big for narrow streets and pretty stressful to drive and park.
Cool to see the contrast in the trucks. Depends on what kind of wheeling I want to do. Tough, tight, muddy tracks I'd go Toyota. For endless logging roads, creek crossings and a heavy load, I'd go with the Ford.
What do you think about Toyota and GM doing subscriptions for features. I think that's a can of worms. Shutting off the subscription out in the middle of nowhere.
Great vid gents, I currently have a 79. But I'm about to have a 3rd kid. Unfortunately i might have to go to a F truck which wont do some of the tracks i have done in the 79 but Australia is such a great place for touring so a F truck will still do a lot of the great places.
I wish you went to the servo before the pub so we could see a fuel comparison, at$2 a litre minimum it’s one of the biggest costs involved in touring.🍻
In Texas you can't drive 5 minutes without seeing atleast 2 F-250's. It's kinda wild how few of them are in Australia. My daily driver is the Chevrolet version of this with the full 8 foot long bed
It’s interesting. We drool over 79s in the USA but the issue is finding parts and they have to be 25 years or older. Grass is always greener. I suppose.
the stock for stock comparison is quite skewed when you dont include all the money spent making the 79 able to handle weight, if you include the chassis stretch and upgrades to make the 79 even come close to capable of carrying the same weight as the f250 its a lot closer in cost.
I drove a 5 year old 230K mile done F250 6.7 power stroke diesel for a while. despite the odo there was no noticeable power drop while towing a 2 tonne trailer and the vehicle craws on pretty much any inclination without drama. Best part is the fuel numbers remained the same 31 mpg on highway. And even after continuous 500 miles on road there was no driver fatigue. With the warn bubs there's nothing other than flat tyre that could hold us back. But yes, back yard repair is time consuming as everything under hood is tight packed and there's hardly any room to access anything.
Interesting video and thanks for sharing. When aussies understand how good American trucks are and move away from the Holden / Ford mindset it is definitely worth exploring deeper into these amazing trucks. Owning an American truck you realise what you have been missing. Power, towing, comfort and way better fuel usage than you expect.
Holden and ford arent really popular 4wd. Some like the ranger but toyota nissan and isuzu are more popular. Holden and ford rivalry is more for sedans
As much as I envy OZ for their availability of so many killer toyotas that we aren't privy to, this has reminded me that the US has made some real legends that are awesome and reliable off road trucks. It also reminded me that, as someone who uses an 8'2" wide dually as my daily driver almost exclusively on surface roads here in Richmond VA USA, which is terribly unfriendly to larger vehicles (looking at you Jocko!) your ability to control your vehicle has less to do with your driving technique or even what you drive, but it winds up being how comfortable you are with whatever you have at your disposal. I have 570,xxx MILES on my 1997 12v Cummins powered Dodge and can parallel park it like a Honda civic that's 20ft long. The point is my ability to wheel it in town or off road has less to do with what it is than acuity developed over hundreds of thousands of miles. Thanks for reading if you did, I honestly appreciate your channel. Jocko you're a good mate but I'll be happy to teach you how to turn a big rig around some day. Cheers!
I'm in the US, and use my F250 as a daily driver. I bought it for towing and travel. Perfect size for family of 5, and can tow anything. Love the show!
The F250 is built for towing and touring. Due to it's size I don't wouldn't do much if any technical wheeling with one. They'll handle old logging and prospecting roads well though!
Honestly in the offroad section they weren't the same or similar........Jocko won't admit it but that Ford kicked the 79's arse. It powered through everything.
I love how they show the single cab price for the Toyota you are actuallylooking more about $135,000 for it. I personally would go the Ford as I love the luxary and space
It's interesting what things are common depending on where you live. Full size long bed pickup trucks are all over the state, which I know has been mentioned. You get used to driving and parking them if you daily, which most people do. My one complaint about those vehicles here is the amount of Mall Crawling that goes on where people heavily modify these trucks and never take them off road. It's especially terrible in New Mexico- such a waste of money.
I live in the US and I would choose a 79 Land Cruiser for a thousand years. Ford trucks are very very tricky to do maintenance and mechanical work and they are made to carry lots of tools and equipment. Land Cruiser on the other hand are extremely friendly to service and do mechanical work, they are lighter trucks and Reliable. Also once you get stuck in the bush or off-roading the lighter vehicle wins just because is easier to pull. Just imagine the F250 stuck into a river or worst into a Bog Hole. The fun of 4WD is to push it until you get stuck doesn't it? Great Video great to see Jocko back.
I drive a 2014 F150 Lariat Crew Cab 3.5 Eco Boost 4x4 for touring and pulling our trailer and a slightly modified 1985 Toyota FJ60 for off roading and camping. Best of both worlds for me.
Over double the horse power, and if you reckon that 79 is ANYWHERE close to 80k when you start talking chassis extensions, you're out of your mind. That slight shaley hill the 79 couldn't get up without lockers had me howling.
I am a American and I have a F 350 that I drive everyday and wheel it a lot harder than what you did one the video. I would have to say I wish we could get Australian versions of the trucks that you guys have over here.
Like you said, you always want what you don’t have! I think the 79 is every aussies dream tourer , but in reality the F250 is so much better in every way ( not spares ) !
Whats great about the 70 series platform is the cab is so tiny that you can give your mate a hand job while touring, which you'll wanna do cause you own a 79 and are a flog
Jocko knows whats up, he was probably looking at those Super Duty axles to swap under a Hilux. Those are the axles we use in most budget builds in the States. A set of F250 axles is ~$1000 or less, and will hold up to +40" tires in basically stock form, especially when swapped under a light weight Jeep or Toyota.
I’d chose 79 over the 250 personally I like hard wheeling and well the simplicity of a 79 is a win for me I don’t want to be stuck in the bush because some part in the 250 has given way also parts are harder to get for a 250 plus for the price of the 250 you can easily build a single cab or dual cab 79 that will out do the 250 and well a lot of after market support as well for 79 f250 is great for towing you can’t doubt that any of the American pickups are.
I’m from the us and just some info when they talk about getting extra parts like universals and stuff. In the US we take these axles and put them in just about everything so we don’t break parts running 42” tires so 35’s you would probably never have to worry bout breaking a universal or axle
Suspension in a 350 may be too much unless you're towing 30,000 pounds. Mine will break your back empty but rides like a dream with a heavy trailer. I enjoy my new Bronco way more than my F truck.
@@tnkklr2011 The 2023 and 2024 models ride a lot better than 2022 and before. Even empty my 24 F450 doesn't ride all that bad. The bigger issue is that I hit 10th gear at about 40 mph. F350 SRWs ride great, but who wants an SRW when you can go dually? After all you are already into zero alcohol with the 350 SRW, may as well go 450!
In the US the full Size F150/F250 is starting to become the all around family vehicle. It can carry the entire family, rides nice on the big Highways and still have the bed in the back for the trips to the hardware store or markets. One thing I noticed when Jocko was backing up, there was no rear camera. Most trucks is the US now come standard with a rear back up camera so you know how much room is behind you. I drive and F150 and rely on my camera all the time backing up and parking. The higher end trucks also have front and side view cameras to help with maneuvering in tight spaces. If you wanted to wheel in Western US in wide open space like Colorado, Arizona, California I would go with the Ford. East Coast wheeling like Virginia, New York and Vermont, where the trails can be a little narrow tighter and overgrown, I'd take the 79. Well done, Nice Video
For anyone that doesn’t know, in stock form the 79 cant tow a thing. We had one and sold it because it tows so bad, they have no power. Towing 2 ton we couldnt do 80 up some hills.
That is ordinary. Why are all 4wds so damn under powdered considering the cost to buy one new. So annoying. It’s too much to ask. God forbid should the car be too exciting to drive with it actually responding when you press the accelerator.... But instead you get a barely adequate motor that is gutless as hell when something is on the tow ball. I’m all for V10’s becoming the norm these days.
@@einfelder8262 Bt-50 had similar amount and could get up a range with a 2 + tonne trailer in 4th gear mate with ease. The Cruiser made it a lot easier than the Bt-50 too. I later got mine tuned because I will agree stock figures are severely wound down. Sucks that you must get a tune to see any “real” power from the V8. But still enough to slam 2 tonne up a hill
Really dig this video and definitely nice to see what you guys do with an American pickup that's been setup for Aussie trails, I like the fact that you guys use a lot of Toyotas to compare with.
"It's like the car has so much power that is spins the Earth in the opposite direction." That was an awesome line. I always wondered how a full size truck would do against the elongated toyotas and such with the diesels in them. Obviously the departure angles are better for the Toyo's off the gate as well as the turning circle. And they are narrow. But all that power. I know from experience how it feels to tow with a truck like that as well as ones smaller. Now...longetivity. Me personally...I will never...ever...ever buy a Ford or GM truck and my view of Dodge is getting worse as well. And until this point I had nothing but Dodge's for 30+ years (since my first truck that I got at 16). Their electrical systems are really bad and they use cheaper parts to try to keep the cost down...in particular the bearings. And the petrol engines in the smaller trucks (the EcoBoost) have horrible reputations. A guy I know loves the Ford diesels...but he's had to have his rebuilt twice since I've known him. The Duramax's have a pretty good reputation, but they are wrapped by the Chevy externals. And lastly, whoever did that canopy, why the heck didn't they install a backup camera. There's no excuse for not having it. And then adding a forward looking camera. For all that money, it would be a must.
Should really have put both on a weighbridge to get an accurate assessment. You didn't put the tape across the canopies - while they are the same length, the width of the F250 canopy would be interesting to see, and how much more can it accommodate. Finally, towing with these big rigs should be with a 3.5 ton caravan for touring, not a family 2.5 ton unit that you could tow with a Triton! Thanks.
@@larsbee at 250k spent on touring vehicles, the fords already got a 140ish litre and the 79 has 110 stock. Probably safe to say these both got long range tanks. F250 can do 295ltr replacement and the 79 can do 240ltr. Fuel consumption? Who cares, no one spending 250k cares about the fuel prices.
@@ablet85 of course no one in the market for a ginormous f250 cares for fuel costs or even 🤣🤣🤣 the climate... but u need to take care of not ending up stranded ....
I really enjoyed this video I love to see the tractors hit the gnarly trails but it's great to see what the big girls do even if I couldn't afford one yet
I’m glad to see y’all drool over the super duty in Aus like we drool over the 79 here in the USA. Great rigs!!
Actually we don't. Most of us laugh at the big yank tanks. Too big, too expensive, too hard to get parts. Just not practical for anything other than city towing
Nobody actually wants a massive truck, they are fun to mess about with, but it isn't at all practical. I can't even park my hilux properly in most places. And also nobody is gonna spend 200k Australian dollars on one of those. I'd rather have 4 hiluxs for that kinda money.
Jock is such a Toyota fan boy he would pick a Prius over that F-250.
So very true
Having owned a 79 and experienced their severely lacking capabilities, you'd be better off road with the Prius.
As an American and a mechanic, I wouldn't trust that Ford any further than I wanted to walk to get cell service
@@speedweigand as an American, what do you think is better and why?
@@speedweigand why?
What American desiel truck would u reccomend
I’ve been driving F250’s for 20 years. The model you have is the short wheelbase. There is a long wheelbase with a full 8’ bed behind the 4 door cab. Impossible to park anywhere.
Cheers from Texas!
I drive an F350 four-door 8 foot bed around Seattle. I’m a contractor so it is kind of a go to. But what a pain in the ass to park!
@@dieseldirt3994 got the same in portland, it can be fun on saturday night lol
I daily drive the chevy version with the 8 foot bed and my brother daily drive a crew cab dually. Once you get use to it you can drive anywhere
your referring to the Texan shit boat, do you also have dual cab. Please stay out of colorado, I;m tired of saving Texans 😵💫
Best part of owning a F450 King Ranch, most ridiculously tight turning truck made. My F250 needed 2 acres to turn around, go drive a wide track 450-550….. you’ll be extremely impressed
I’m kinda disappointed you’s didn’t push my F-truck way harder !!! 😂👍🏼 But I appreciate you looking after it legends !
Bloody full send next one boys ! 🍻
Awesome F-Truck you have there, and I wish you many safe adventures in it. I hope to get a F-Truck sometime in the future.
The term "F-truck" sounds so odd to me. I work with these trucks daily and we usually refer to them by their model like 250 or 350 etc. Example "Are you taking the 250 or the 350 today?"
Or we'll refer to them by the weight designation. Example "Are you taking the three quarter or the one ton?"
Could do a proper comparison on your channel mate?....Let me know when she's for sale, I so want it. Channel follower
@@baumie4618 it’s FORSALE now mate
@@TyFenwick where? Carsales?
these two go well together. definitely need their own spin off shows
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Agreed! They're like young Sean and Graham.
@@chrism3562 Better actually 😁
Jocko saying 79 big gurl next to f250 is just hilarious 😆
For those of y’all curious about the F-250 reliability has one specced out for mechanical contracting from 2003 with 500,000 plus miles on it. Had to replace the a/c on it, but it’s still running like the work horse it’s been. I’m from Texas so that’s miles not kilometers
Yeah the older Fords and Chevys are beast and lasts a very long time compared to the newer ones.
The real question is why Jocko’s beer looks untouched while Tim send his into the abyss?
Jocko was probably on his second 😂
🤣🤣 I noticed that too!
What is that cloudy looking horse piss anyway?
I’m worried about how cloudy they are!! I hope there not those trendy fruity perfume fucking beers 😂😂
@@Cl4rky Craft bear mate! 😁
Good segment - I've got a similar F250 to the one you've tested, and I've taken it most places in Aus (Simpson, Cape, Fraser, Tassie etc.), and it did quite a bit off off-road in North America including Mexico and Alaska prior to converting it to RHD and shipping it over. I've also driven a 200 and a 76 quite a bit. Your summary is pretty good. Off-road it's actually genuinely really good and would surprise a lot of people (you just have to not care about your paint too much 😂), just they wallow quite a bit due to their wide track - but they offer a lot of stability as a result. Performance, comfort etc. not much competes (I would easily take it over a 200), and I've not driven anything else now for 10+ years so dailying it in the city isn't too much of a problem (yes, underground carparks you might have to miss). Parts aren't so much a problem as you can pre-order, and stuff like filters are on shelves in more places than you might imagine, and in many cases you might find they are cheaper than equivelant parts for a Cruiser. The fundamental mechanicals (engine, transmission and diffs) in this generation and the newer generation F-trucks are really stout as well too, and it's not let me down over 180k of very hard km. Lastly, the package, while they start a lot more expensive than a 79, when you start extending the chassis, fixing the wheel track, auto conversion, you aren't far off the cost, and you haven't got a 10 speed trans, 6.7l engine, or the big benefit, a cabin that big.
The big downsides however are:
Finding knowledgable people to work on them in Aus, they exist, but the best bloke near me is 1.5hrs drive away and I live in Melbourne, not around the corner like you might find for a Cruiser (or Patrol, or other ute).
Accessory market is different for them, stuff like suspension or gooseneck trailer hitches... you can chose from 5,000 options, but a snorkel, yeah good luck.
Lastly, while the fundamental mechanicals are really stout, the use of them in North America is different to outback touring - I've destroyed 3 sets of front hubs from drawing water in some low level water crossings, bent the battery trays etc. from corrugations.
second this. I've got an imported HZJ77 and recently purchased my 2014 F250 (worth noting i chose the F250 over a 2016+ 200 Series. Objectively the F250 is better for my needs.) If I'm going out camping with just my kid(s) or wife, the 77 is the truck of choice. If I'm going out with the whole family, (wife, 2 kids, 2 dogs) the F250 is the ticket. If I absolutely must survive, Cruiser all day every day.
HUBS on truck. I agree with that . We switched them out with WARN s. That's about the only weakness . We just drive the factory ones as normal . Then replace them with WARN s when they start clicking. You can just keep the stock ones locked in all the time. The WARNS are superior. And they do last. All metal. That's the upgrade almost everyone does .
Who is your guy that you take your truck too? I have an 2013 F350 always like to have a couple of numbers stored encase.
@@robertsavvidis8061 Alcorn Automotive in Truganina. Highly recommended
@@IBAdrianHarris cheers thank you.
I have a F250 as my daily driver. its is a bit modified on 6 inch lift and 37 tires. But I have no issue driving it around town or on my monthly 1100 mile round trip work commute. If you pluck out the DPF and EGR, and a couple of other bits, it is a very reliable engine / setup and you get a bunch more torque and horsepower out of it when you let it breathe
Extra 950Nm torque on the F250 off the factory than the 79. If we paid the USA prices for the F trucks, rams, Silverados etc etc I bet they’d be more popular than the 79.
Definitely
They are 57,000 usd/80,000 aud in the US. I don't know how much they are in Australia though.
@@rpmurphey1981 Got a bank to rob? I can buy a house for a ram or 300 series like how its a dang car
They're too big to do a proper lap here, way too heavy and way too big for tight trails. Alright for the US where the whole country is blacktop
Would just bring 70s down to where they should be, would still be heaps of 70s, I could have had either of these and I went with the 70. It’s hard to explain but once you drive one you just want one. They feel solid.
American here. We have a lot less choice in off-road vehicles and diesels are much harder to find/afford. While the "American" vehicles are less common for you they are available to you; many of the rigs that you enjoy are simply not available here. While the large American trucks are nice they are also too large for many tracks which is why I chose the smaller and more capable Jeep Gladiator. If I had to choose between the two trucks that you tested I would choose the 79 because of its novelty in the states but mostly because of its smaller size. My truck/ute is intended and built to drive offroad and I don't want size/weight impeding that. I would love to see you all do a similar comparison against a Jeep Gladiator as I dream of shipping mine to Aus and taking on some of the tracks that you have embedded into my mind. Thanks for the awesome content and for being a breath of fresh air!
Just buy a gladiator here, build it, drive it, then sell it. You’ll make money lol.
@@wizzylizzy69 that's true hey
with gas prices high ... I would have loved to see what these vehicles need to get around!
@@larsbee for 90% of the trails just go buy a ram power wagon, it will pretty much do everything out the gate. Has factory front and rear locker, sway bar disconnect, and 12,000# winch.
ngl the gladiator is a gimmick and kinda trash off road. compared to a wrangler/Cherokee
23:08 that F series makes that Tarago look like a Prius!
whats the steam pissing out under the F truck in that scene ?
I generally like smaller vehicles but the F series sounds pretty damn good.
As an American who drives a F-250; seeing a Australia version is interesting.
What's the difference between them?
What are the differences?
@@principal7819 one got left hand drive the other has correct hand drive
@@principal7819 big difference is you really don't see f250s built like this in most of the US.
@@archygrey9093 For the most part, long range touring isn't really a thing in the US (at least that's my perception from Southern California). There are a ton of F-250s as well as other full size trucks from Dodge and Chevy, but usually they are relegated to towing the off-road toys more than being the off-road toys themselves.
We call anything larger than a Tacoma (Hilux) a full size truck and when you do see them on the trails it's usually as part of a specific event for them ("Full Size Invasion").
Most of the interesting trails near me are short one day trips better suited to smaller more agile vehicles, and because you aren't generally camping on these trails there's no need for the extra room and comfort of a full size.
In the US, the F250 is rated to tow much more than 4500kg (9920 lbs), up to 6,800 kg (15,000 lbs), depending on configuration. If fifth wheel towing, it goes up to 9,000 kg (20,000 lbs). I wonder why it is so underrated in Australia.
Licencing and registration requirements, 4499kg is the most you do on electric braked trailer, after that you need air brakes on the trailer which nessecates a bigger truck to power the air brakes or expensive kits to operate
because they break way to easily
Which is odd cause it’s usually the other way around. My crv is limited to 1500 lbs in the US. But 3500 lbs around the world.
If you’re towing that weight you’d probably need a light truck or medium rigid license (MR) think that’s why there derated to get around that
@@jordanfarrar9955 I figured it was derated. Almost not worth importing, unless you want that added safety factor when towing. A diesel F250 wouldn't even know it was towing a 6,000lb load...
I've been driving F-150's and Silverado's for 25 years (only a few inches different than that 250), and went down to a Tacoma, exactly for the reasons you mentioned.. It is a massive luxury to drive a full size truck every day, but it is also taxing in many ways too. I'm liking the smaller truck and probably will never go back. Cheers from Canada!
Seeing my local pub on 4WD 24-7 has made my day.
Watching Jocko panic while driving/turning around in that F250 had me laughing! I drive my dodge DRW around small roads like that in my town all the time. It’s nothing😁👍😂😂😂
I can parallel park my 36’ 5th wheel and truck in a minute as well😂😂😂
Love the show guys
The best part of my day is getting that notification that 4wd24/7 has posted a new vedio
I’ve got 539,000 (335,000 miles) km’s on my 2006 F250 and it’s going strong. At about 280,000 miles I replaced the power steering and AC condenser, but they were original to the truck and I didn’t think that was too bad. You just got to get used to driving something that big. And while I do not do too much extreme off-roading in mine, it does see dirt and I know there are people here in the states who do take them down real difficult tracks. Just stay out of parking garages.
17:50. Jocko " dont need a Footstool lile Graham" 🤣🤣
show me somewhere where you get buy a brand new 79 series for $80k - its like a 2 year wait
As a Canadian and used to driving F250/F350 for work and a Toyota Tacoma for my daily, you get used to the size of the big truck city driving. I squeeze my work truck in the tightest streets of downtown Toronto. The trucks are big but having big mirrors help a ton. Tight off-road trails/tracks is where you feel the size difference.
You guys really need to get one of these Fords to take out on the regular show... Be interesting to see how they cope, and compare, with a 300 or Y62 for example.
That three point turn was gold!
Great videos! Australia has some really cool places I would love to visit and some really cool 4x4's. As an American I'm used to seeing F-250's everywhere, especially here in Arizona. To see an F250 driving through downtown Phoenix is so common you don't even think about it. I've owned an F250 and an F350 both with V10 gas motors. They were each my daily driving rig. Off-road they are beasts! Slap a set of 35" or 37" tires on them and they are super hard to get stuck: mud, rock, snow, sand you name it they can do it (except for tight spaces). On the other hand to see a LC70 in the USA is like seeing an F250 in Australia. Basically, I think you get used to what you drive.
I was fortunate enough to own a F250 and Land Cruiser,as you guys said,when it gets to get parts,the Cruiser's parts are always available where for the F250 you will have to order from the States and wait a a fair bid of time to get the parts.But besides that I will choose the F250 all day every day,that power under the hood and the space inside the cab is just in a class of it's own.I have 2 boys and like me,the bigger the better,even in town,you just have to adjust to the size of that truck.
2002 f250, space cab extra long tray. Had that as a daily in Adelaide for a while, not easy but you find the right places to park. Also done a lot of touring and towing, love that.
that f250 makes 35s look like 30s😂
Mate F250s make anything look small
Not to mention they’re actually 37s😂
A 79 on 37's looks huge you need 44's on an F truck to make it look like that on about 4 6 inches of lift then they make everything look tiny
@@lb0178 yeh that’s it. My Silverado 2500 on 35s with no lift looks about right but on a big lift they need minimum 37s or the look like they skipped leg day😂
@@shanenorwell8580 Yep
Have to agree with Tim. I would take the F250 any day of the week, power, comfort....
how much 4x4 are you doing tho
Lower payload capacity. Yep the f250 is better 😂🤣
That was the weakest boghole I've ever seen 😂
My stock height d22 would drive through that lol
I’m from the us and seen what the 4wd boys have done and I was thinking the exact same thing
ye well jocko mentioned they didnt want to take it to harsh tracks since both were built for touring purposes
@@sambaldwin My commodore would get through it for god sake
My 4wd wheelchair would nail that bog hole, or puddle, lol
As an American Wrangler owner, I have to say I'd take the 79. Smaller always wins on tough tracks. Still has heaps of torque and versatile as all heck. Proper tires, full lockers, and a few power upgrades and you're all set.
79 all the way and I also would like to teach Jocko how to appreciate a beer!
1 thing I noticed, ya mentioned the starting price.
Im more curious how much it would cost to build a twin to eather.
My bet is the Ford is better value. Just since its a simple lift, barwork and canopy.
The 79 has a damn cut and shut chassis 😄. That aint cheap. The other bs like track correction, interior crap and all the needed improvements to get it to match even a stock F250s abilty for most things.
Also the whole "around town" bit is funny, but as someone who dailys a HR tow truck with a trailer sometimes in city's. Ya soft. 😆
Haha - Audoin, I heard you drive a silver 88 Civic hatch back. Lol.
(Haha friendly banter, mate - laughin with ya and one of those is my thumbs up)
@@Shilo-fc3xm pwah I wish I had an 88 Civic. They worth heaps now 😄
@@audoinxr6372 Ha. Secretly wish I had one too. They're easy and heaps of fun to drive round town with that front wheel drive but don't tell anyone I said so. Lol.
I love this, i daily an f250 and watching this cracks me up. You guys should come to The south in the USA and see how many people do parallel park f trucks beside coffee shops or in the bar district. you get pretty good at it when you drive one every day
Great comparison. Make no mistake, that F-truck is an absolute beast of a rig but it is just too big and unwieldly for tight tracks. On the other hand for a family just going on an overland holiday I guess the beast wins. For what you guys, Shauno, Graham and the boys do, stick to the smaller rigs.
The f250 is a $80,000/$115,000 Australian dollar truck here in the U.S. and I didn't realize how small the 79 is compared to the f250. I can find a 2014 f250 for $40,000usd here all day. The price difference is crazy!! Also the factory power is good but with a simple turbo and tune you can double the f250s power.
for the money aspect alone the F-truck gets my vote, and I love my cruisers! But for similar coin you get more power, luxury and it handles the weight better
Similiar coin?its a $100000 to 70000 difference
@@Changedcord not after mods both trucks are around the 250k mark according to jocko. The cruiser will cost more to get setup to a similar level.
My problem with the yank tank is that it's too big and really honestly ugly
@@Changedcord that extended Cruiser + coils is NOT $70k
@@Changedcord: yeah, right. And if you change the factors to a 200 or 300 series with the mods of rear-chop, extended chassis, suspension, GVM, GCM, upgrades, with the tray and canopy system fitted, bull-bar, winch/es, tow-bar, extra wheels and tyres, roof-racks, etc, that 200 or 300 series suddenly becomes a WHOLE LOT more expensive than the Ford F-250/GMC/Chev 2500’s, with suspension and canopy etc setups.
Then you have the extra size, power and torque of the larger engines, and they suddenly ARE a MUCH better proposition at prices against the modified Toyotas.
Also, from what I have seen and heard, (no, I do not have first-hand knowledge on this) the 79 series cruiser is screaming that diesel motor at over 3500rpm at highway speeds in top gear,(yes, without a trailer), whilst the ‘American’ ‘trucks’ are just simply humming along at low revs like a diesel should.
Hi Guys. Fun video. Thank you.
I have a 2013 F350 Overlander and it's a beast of a rig. It's like driving my couch watching the scenic channel.
I've taken it down Lippincott Pass in Death Valley, which is considered the hardest trail in Death Valley. My rig has taken me up and down some incredibly hard trails.
I live in Las Vegas Nevada. It's also my daily driver. I love my rig 100%.
If you guys have any questions about it, let me know. I'll share some pics.
that wasn't a boghole, that was a bloody puddle
That f250 also comes standard with some awfully stout axels and auto trans, wouldn't have to worry about breaking any of that off roading. Also going to be crazy safe in a collision as the us has super high standards for crash test ratings
I had a lady cross the center and hit me head on. Going 45mph each. Sadly she passed instantly. Her suv was twisted like a can and if it hadn’t bent the front radius arm and busted the radiator…. I could have driven mine home. These Super Duty trucks are absolute tanks.
Being here in the USA I would love the 79! We don’t have access to many Japanese diesel vehicles. Older models are starting to be imported but parts could be an issue and they’re right hand drive. So unless we go with a full size truck we are stuck with gas and limited torque. That is why I ended up with a diesel Chevy Colorado zr2, very similar to Grahams D-max.
I've got an imported HZJ77. It will literally go up any hill, but not at a safe speed by American standards. I was getting passed by semi's climbing the Cumberland gap at 30mph.
@@AFnic I got passed by a semi in my 2021 Tacoma 2.7L 4x4 on my way to Mammoth in CA! Foot to the floor on the 395 I could just maintain 65ish mph or so, engine screaming away. Sold it and now have a GX460 (Land Cruiser Prado), the 4.6 V8 is a dream.
The 2.7 was fine at sea level but once you got over 5k ft. in elevation, it really suffered- and most of my off-roading is at 5-10k ft.
@@windnsea03 yep, I'm up around Winters, Unfortunately my 70 has been getting a motor swap for the better part of 2 years. but the altitude is killer
This was great to watch definitely great chemistry well done guys loved the content
Quite happily daily my f250 everywhere. All about getting used to it. Parts are only ever a phone call away to certain people and overnight on a truck. As long as you don't mind a few pinstripes they fit every where a patrol or cruiser will go.
For me all the pros heavily outweighed the cons when I went through the same 250vs79 decision 3 years ago.
I miss my old F250. Thing would fly thru anything in heavy snow
Great review, having lusted after a 79 series since my first trip to africa and them being almost non-existent in the US. My current off-road adventure rig is an similarly built out F350. Infact i asked Mitz about a tray for mine. Your right about driving in the city and narrow streets and trails, but build them up right and the places they can go will blow your mind. For the ultra tight stuff, i'll take the jeep.
Great episode!! I’ll take the F Truck kindly please 🎉I’m not planning to tow, just touring around Australia 🇦🇺
Backup camera and extendable mirrors are standard for the f-250
I have a 2006 7.3L v8 f250 and tow a 4500kg 5th wheeler around it's done Tasmania and most of the country. I love it on the tracks it surprises me every time we go out. She is my daily driveer it took some getting used to the size but now I drive around Hervey bay, Brisbane, sunny coast etc no problem.
During fire season we use F350's and for 6 -9 months out of the year they are daily drivers, you quickly get used to the dimensions and a number of my coworkers use heavy one ton truck for their regular drivers off season as well work trucks not trailer queens lol.
Such a fun vid, love getting the perspective of people from other countries on our beloved American trucks. I wheel and camp with an F150 Raptor (not the Ranger, the 86" wide one). Similar to the F250 wheeled in the vid, it might surprise many by being more versatile than you'd think. Tows a 20+ foot travel trailer like it's not even there. SUPER comfortable on long trips and the massive cab lets everyone including the kids and dogs have plenty of space to ride. Offroad the long wheelbase gives mega traction uphill, better than my FJC or 4runner ever had. The downside is tight corners or getting hung up due to poor breakover angle. And anything where weight matters. Also the power cannot be talked about enough. I drove 2 different 200 series land cruisers with the 5.7 back to back with the Raptor. The mighty LC200 is like a snail by comparison. Glad you showed the city driving as well. I live in a small town with big roads, but I drove the truck to San Francisco and it's hilariously big for narrow streets and pretty stressful to drive and park.
Nothing gets better than getting notifications by 4wd lying on the couch
Hi guys loved the test but would definitely go the F250 thanks again guys
Cool to see the contrast in the trucks. Depends on what kind of wheeling I want to do. Tough, tight, muddy tracks I'd go Toyota. For endless logging roads, creek crossings and a heavy load, I'd go with the Ford.
True words
What do you think about Toyota and GM doing subscriptions for features. I think that's a can of worms. Shutting off the subscription out in the middle of nowhere.
Both are good vehicles but I can't lie, even though I am a Ford truck owner Id love to have the Toyota with the diesel
Creek crossings and logging areas are coming to be in mountainous areas with switch backs .. the 250 would suck
@@markhowells13 they have a similar turning radius. Not a big deal.
Great vid gents, I currently have a 79. But I'm about to have a 3rd kid. Unfortunately i might have to go to a F truck which wont do some of the tracks i have done in the 79 but Australia is such a great place for touring so a F truck will still do a lot of the great places.
I wish you went to the servo before the pub so we could see a fuel comparison, at$2 a litre minimum it’s one of the biggest costs involved in touring.🍻
Well said
The sound of the 250 gave me that fizz on the inside!
In Texas you can't drive 5 minutes without seeing atleast 2 F-250's. It's kinda wild how few of them are in Australia. My daily driver is the Chevrolet version of this with the full 8 foot long bed
It’s interesting. We drool over 79s in the USA but the issue is finding parts and they have to be 25 years or older. Grass is always greener. I suppose.
the stock for stock comparison is quite skewed when you dont include all the money spent making the 79 able to handle weight, if you include the chassis stretch and upgrades to make the 79 even come close to capable of carrying the same weight as the f250 its a lot closer in cost.
I drove a 5 year old 230K mile done F250 6.7 power stroke diesel for a while. despite the odo there was no noticeable power drop while towing a 2 tonne trailer and the vehicle craws on pretty much any inclination without drama. Best part is the fuel numbers remained the same 31 mpg on highway. And even after continuous 500 miles on road there was no driver fatigue.
With the warn bubs there's nothing other than flat tyre that could hold us back.
But yes, back yard repair is time consuming as everything under hood is tight packed and there's hardly any room to access anything.
Interesting video and thanks for sharing.
When aussies understand how good American trucks are and move away from the Holden / Ford mindset it is definitely worth exploring deeper into these amazing trucks. Owning an American truck you realise what you have been missing. Power, towing, comfort and way better fuel usage than you expect.
Holden and ford arent really popular 4wd. Some like the ranger but toyota nissan and isuzu are more popular. Holden and ford rivalry is more for sedans
jocks on a new beer every time it cuts back, legend!
As much as I envy OZ for their availability of so many killer toyotas that we aren't privy to, this has reminded me that the US has made some real legends that are awesome and reliable off road trucks. It also reminded me that, as someone who uses an 8'2" wide dually as my daily driver almost exclusively on surface roads here in Richmond VA USA, which is terribly unfriendly to larger vehicles (looking at you Jocko!) your ability to control your vehicle has less to do with your driving technique or even what you drive, but it winds up being how comfortable you are with whatever you have at your disposal. I have 570,xxx MILES on my 1997 12v Cummins powered Dodge and can parallel park it like a Honda civic that's 20ft long. The point is my ability to wheel it in town or off road has less to do with what it is than acuity developed over hundreds of thousands of miles. Thanks for reading if you did, I honestly appreciate your channel. Jocko you're a good mate but I'll be happy to teach you how to turn a big rig around some day. Cheers!
What a grat job!! Very happy to see such an amazing vídeo!!
F 250 hands down the best truck I have ever drove on and off road!
I'm in the US, and use my F250 as a daily driver. I bought it for towing and travel. Perfect size for family of 5, and can tow anything. Love the show!
The F250 is built for towing and touring. Due to it's size I don't wouldn't do much if any technical wheeling with one. They'll handle old logging and prospecting roads well though!
wouldnt do technical wheeling in a 79 either, heap of shit
Honestly in the offroad section they weren't the same or similar........Jocko won't admit it but that Ford kicked the 79's arse. It powered through everything.
I love how they show the single cab price for the Toyota you are actuallylooking more about $135,000 for it. I personally would go the Ford as I love the luxary and space
That 79 is my dream ride. Really like that pickup truck!!!
(20:20) boys there's Ftrucks spares shops all round aussy,i have no trouble getting spares for what ever i need to do, repair or service..
It's interesting what things are common depending on where you live. Full size long bed pickup trucks are all over the state, which I know has been mentioned. You get used to driving and parking them if you daily, which most people do.
My one complaint about those vehicles here is the amount of Mall Crawling that goes on where people heavily modify these trucks and never take them off road. It's especially terrible in New Mexico- such a waste of money.
I had no idea cars were that expensive in Australia. An F250 is a $50k vehicle here in the US and you can get used ones everywhere for dirt cheap.
I was curious to see what they were worth in the states, I knew there would be a premium in Aus but damn, more than triple the price, that's insane.
Moving the steering wheel to the other side has to be factored into the price
@@oblivion171985 Yeah, but $100k more?
I live in the US and I would choose a 79 Land Cruiser for a thousand years. Ford trucks are very very tricky to do maintenance and mechanical work and they are made to carry lots of tools and equipment. Land Cruiser on the other hand are extremely friendly to service and do mechanical work, they are lighter trucks and Reliable. Also once you get stuck in the bush or off-roading the lighter vehicle wins just because is easier to pull. Just imagine the F250 stuck into a river or worst into a Bog Hole. The fun of 4WD is to push it until you get stuck doesn't it? Great Video great to see Jocko back.
I say it on every post big fella, where’s the solo trip with the SAS LUX jock? Keen to see ya yet carted off with a bit of food poisoning 😂
I drive a 2014 F150 Lariat Crew Cab 3.5 Eco Boost 4x4 for touring and pulling our trailer and a slightly modified 1985 Toyota FJ60 for off roading and camping. Best of both worlds for me.
Over double the horse power, and if you reckon that 79 is ANYWHERE close to 80k when you start talking chassis extensions, you're out of your mind.
That slight shaley hill the 79 couldn't get up without lockers had me howling.
I am a American and I have a F 350 that I drive everyday and wheel it a lot harder than what you did one the video. I would have to say I wish we could get Australian versions of the trucks that you guys have over here.
american here and i would go for the 79.never been a big fan of large trucks like the f250.
F250 is Sick! I own a F250 myself, Love it!
Like you said, you always want what you don’t have! I think the 79 is every aussies dream tourer , but in reality the F250 is so much better in every way ( not spares ) !
Being in the US, we would give anything to get the new 79s. You guys love the 250 because it's unusual and fun. The grass is always greener.
Whats great about the 70 series platform is the cab is so tiny that you can give your mate a hand job while touring, which you'll wanna do cause you own a 79 and are a flog
are u a nissian guy
patrol cabs are smaller. as are every other ute on the market in single cab
@@brocksinclair66 go check the measurements mate WRONG
Jocko knows whats up, he was probably looking at those Super Duty axles to swap under a Hilux. Those are the axles we use in most budget builds in the States. A set of F250 axles is ~$1000 or less, and will hold up to +40" tires in basically stock form, especially when swapped under a light weight Jeep or Toyota.
I’d chose 79 over the 250 personally I like hard wheeling and well the simplicity of a 79 is a win for me I don’t want to be stuck in the bush because some part in the 250 has given way also parts are harder to get for a 250 plus for the price of the 250 you can easily build a single cab or dual cab 79 that will out do the 250 and well a lot of after market support as well for 79 f250 is great for towing you can’t doubt that any of the American pickups are.
It's 2022 mate I get parts from Sweden in 7 days, it would be less from the states
Agreed, and the ford will breakdown alot. Toyota landcruiser has nothing to prove. It's bullet proof.
@@neilw5198 bulletproof? They suck dust from factory and their clutches are weak as piss I would consider it bulletproof
I’m from the us and just some info when they talk about getting extra parts like universals and stuff. In the US we take these axles and put them in just about everything so we don’t break parts running 42” tires so 35’s you would probably never have to worry bout breaking a universal or axle
I think I would take a F-350 to travel Australia 🤔 can’t beat them for towing and off road it goes very well.
Suspension in a 350 may be too much unless you're towing 30,000 pounds. Mine will break your back empty but rides like a dream with a heavy trailer. I enjoy my new Bronco way more than my F truck.
@@tnkklr2011 it was a bit of tongue in cheek mate, I have a f350 and I tow a 4.5t van around Australia full time. I think it’s a great ride.
@@tnkklr2011 The 2023 and 2024 models ride a lot better than 2022 and before. Even empty my 24 F450 doesn't ride all that bad. The bigger issue is that I hit 10th gear at about 40 mph. F350 SRWs ride great, but who wants an SRW when you can go dually? After all you are already into zero alcohol with the 350 SRW, may as well go 450!
"people wont try to parallel park these vehicles at a coffee shop." Saskatchewan would blow your fucking mind.
Wheres the beach?!
In the US the full Size F150/F250 is starting to become the all around family vehicle. It can carry the entire family, rides nice on the big Highways and still have the bed in the back for the trips to the hardware store or markets. One thing I noticed when Jocko was backing up, there was no rear camera. Most trucks is the US now come standard with a rear back up camera so you know how much room is behind you. I drive and F150 and rely on my camera all the time backing up and parking. The higher end trucks also have front and side view cameras to help with maneuvering in tight spaces. If you wanted to wheel in Western US in wide open space like Colorado, Arizona, California I would go with the Ford. East Coast wheeling like Virginia, New York and Vermont, where the trails can be a little narrow tighter and overgrown, I'd take the 79. Well done, Nice Video
For anyone that doesn’t know, in stock form the 79 cant tow a thing. We had one and sold it because it tows so bad, they have no power. Towing 2 ton we couldnt do 80 up some hills.
That is ordinary. Why are all 4wds so damn under powdered considering the cost to buy one new. So annoying. It’s too much to ask. God forbid should the car be too exciting to drive with it actually responding when you press the accelerator.... But instead you get a barely adequate motor that is gutless as hell when something is on the tow ball. I’m all for V10’s becoming the norm these days.
@@cliffbooth7075 because then companies would have to invest money in good suspension setups and disc rear brakes. Cheaper not to.
That’s a crock of shit, my old 3.2
L Bt-50 could do that up a range towing a scaffold trailer. My 79 currently shits on that
@@GuyLovesAnOnion That sounds like a crock of shit. 450nm from a 4.5 V8 = junk.
@@einfelder8262 Bt-50 had similar amount and could get up a range with a 2 + tonne trailer in 4th gear mate with ease. The Cruiser made it a lot easier than the Bt-50 too. I later got mine tuned because I will agree stock figures are severely wound down. Sucks that you must get a tune to see any “real” power from the V8. But still enough to slam 2 tonne up a hill
Really dig this video and definitely nice to see what you guys do with an American pickup that's been setup for Aussie trails, I like the fact that you guys use a lot of Toyotas to compare with.
It would have been interesting to know how much fuel each vehicle consumed during this test.
Both = a shitload 😄
Just as well both comes with a RTT, as there won't be anything left in the budget for accommodation, once you factor in the fuel bill.😁
A lot
I’m from Canada and those fords are everywhere here they would be good on those hard trails too.
"It's like the car has so much power that is spins the Earth in the opposite direction." That was an awesome line.
I always wondered how a full size truck would do against the elongated toyotas and such with the diesels in them. Obviously the departure angles are better for the Toyo's off the gate as well as the turning circle. And they are narrow.
But all that power. I know from experience how it feels to tow with a truck like that as well as ones smaller.
Now...longetivity. Me personally...I will never...ever...ever buy a Ford or GM truck and my view of Dodge is getting worse as well. And until this point I had nothing but Dodge's for 30+ years (since my first truck that I got at 16). Their electrical systems are really bad and they use cheaper parts to try to keep the cost down...in particular the bearings.
And the petrol engines in the smaller trucks (the EcoBoost) have horrible reputations. A guy I know loves the Ford diesels...but he's had to have his rebuilt twice since I've known him. The Duramax's have a pretty good reputation, but they are wrapped by the Chevy externals.
And lastly, whoever did that canopy, why the heck didn't they install a backup camera. There's no excuse for not having it. And then adding a forward looking camera. For all that money, it would be a must.
I freakin love this episode. I've got a '91 HZJ77 and a '14 F250 Platinum. 10/10 can confirm the F250 is much better truck for a big family.
Should really have put both on a weighbridge to get an accurate assessment. You didn't put the tape across the canopies - while they are the same length, the width of the F250 canopy would be interesting to see, and how much more can it accommodate. Finally, towing with these big rigs should be with a 3.5 ton caravan for touring, not a family 2.5 ton unit that you could tow with a Triton!
Thanks.
Probably limited by the extra weight they are loaded up with.
how about fuel consumption? isn't that of interest? how far can I go without filling up?
@@larsbee at 250k spent on touring vehicles, the fords already got a 140ish litre and the 79 has 110 stock. Probably safe to say these both got long range tanks. F250 can do 295ltr replacement and the 79 can do 240ltr. Fuel consumption? Who cares, no one spending 250k cares about the fuel prices.
@@ablet85 of course no one in the market for a ginormous f250 cares for fuel costs or even 🤣🤣🤣 the climate... but u need to take care of not ending up stranded ....
@@ablet85 It's not about cost - put simply a rig that gets better mileage goes further. Especially with extended range tanks.
I really enjoyed this video I love to see the tractors hit the gnarly trails but it's great to see what the big girls do even if I couldn't afford one yet