I did something like this in my shop. I realized only after all the building that the 2x4 took up a lot of shelf space. So I cut them down to 2x2 and gained that extra space. I kept the 2x4 where I needed the extra strength (top shelf that would hold heavy loads), but most shelves didn't really need that level of support. Hope this helps for someone. Great shelf.
I hate when I'm taking apart some boards held with ~3 carpenter screws then glued in-between, its like what the heck is this overkill garbage!? I'm glad people are learning about joints again.
Since glue from 20 years ago has failed, and anything I do I expect to last longer then 20 years, I rarely ever use glue. Because ceiling tiles were falling once, because the glue failed, and the staples were not holding anymore either.
you aren’t understanding what is going on, it’s not overkill the glue is the real fastener - the screws are there to act as clamps for the glue to the glue up is successful
@@mxmartinelli1 uh no, the screws are the main holding power. Glue alone is useless if all you're doing is a butt joint. If he did a mitre joint you might have an argument.
@@clayrush1413respectfully, i disagree. hundreds of videos have disproven this claim over the last few years you may be right in the short term, the mechanical fasteners would be stronger but while glue up on a butt joint may be relatively weaker than edge grain to edge grain, it’s certainly stronger than mechanical fasteners in end grain over time mechanical fasteners weaken rapidly due to expansion and contraction of the wood, this is especially true with screwing into end grain as the majority of the movement is radial from the growth of the tree
It's an old myth. A good butt joint is surprisingly strong. You just usually have a long board off the end grain with lots of leverage, making it easy to fail. The butt joint is like 80% the strength of a miter
I love the French Cleat concept on the side of your storage unit. The thought never crossed my mind, but now I have a new project for next weekend. I’m going to do the same thing to my existing storage units. 👍🏽
I have always LOVED FRENCH CLEATS! This is a brilliant use for them! I will definitely be implementing this throughout the garage and office. Might even be handy outside near sprinkler system or watering hoses.
But the shelves are only supported by the shear strength of 12 screws. Works for most things but a waste of a ton of wood which isn't the limiting factor for strength
That's 20" of space used to support shelves that hold stuff that could have been supported with ¾" particle board (4½" total) you could have saved enough space for one more Shelf
AND YOU COULD START YOUR OWN CHANNEL WITH YOUR 16 SUBSCRIBERS INSTEAD OF BEING NASTY ON SOMEONES CHANNEL WHO WORKS REALLY HARD TO PUT OUT VIDEOS...🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔 🐝 BE KIND 🐝
Particle board falls apart if it gets wet. So, if you put a gas chain saw on it, particle board would fall apart. And the sheer strength comes from 2x4's.
@normbograham shear strength isn't a generic term for overall strength. The 2x4s don't do much for the shear strength. Most sheet goods will come apart in water. The stuff that won't is too costly to be making shelves out of. A coat of paint will provide a lot of protection to partical board. I'd rather fix the float in thr chainsaw than give up 20 inches of space just in case it leaks. ..and I end up with 3 more leaky chainsaws (for the other shelves). I've been using partical board bordered in finger jointed 1x2 with ¾" dado plowed into it to receive the ¾" partical board, starting about 7/32" away from top edge which is where I lay in some ¼" Masonite. That's what I use for GP work bench surface. It's strong enough for what I do to it, which is a lot more than most "DIYers." The idea was to replace the Masonite when it wears out. It's been in use for over 20 years and still not worn out..
@TheBurruss5 I'm not sure which shelve you're referring to, i make lots of shelves out of lots of different materials, but a good design would be to use particle board shelving (better would be to rip down a bunch of 1⅛" T&G plywood), screw in a bunch of one by two cleats into the wall at Shelf elevations. Use ⅜" All Thread Rod contained in ½"ø conduit (or ¾"ø or 1"ø). Drill holes through the plywood at intervals for support. Basically, the author and Rod will be used to support the shelves in the front in conjunction with the conduit. Start drilling holes in the wood with a forstner bit the same diameter as a conduit only go about an eighth inch or a quarter inch deep. It's just to keep the conduit centered. So basically it's going to be, shelf, conduit, shelf conduit, Shelf, and so on, up with ATR holding everything together. You don't have to use conduit but it looks cooler . It also looks cooler if you use splines in grooves plowed through the back edge of the shelf. It's a way cleaner look. I've also made shelves and work bench tops from old doors. The cheap hollow ones can be ripped then supported with 1x2 (ripped to fit void in door)
@@heckingbamboozled8097 it won't last any longer than a good design that used smaller timbers and less wood overall. Only way it would last longer is if he is putting stuff that was beyond the leaner designs weight capability. This is over built because there really is no way he is putting enough on those small shelves to get anywhere near their load limit.
My Dad made (sort of) a shelving unit thing like this guy....gosg back in like the late 70's. It was on the side of an upper shelving unit with doors that he built for her over her sewing machine. It was for the gargantuan amount of thread that she had. The little spools just slid in. The bottom 'shelf' was slightly at an angle. Top of the shelf to the floor, it held a bunch of thread.
Nice job but over kill on the timber size. Everyone has their own design when it comes to their own shop. I like the quick release shelf boxes handy as…
Nice. I am just beginning my garage project and converting it to a shop. All these ideas are so inspiring! The one problem I am having is the vacuum system for dust control. I’m trying to figure out a way to make it convenient to switch from one Toole to another while leaving the vacuum itself in one place..
Ive seen something with a rail habging by what looked like wire hangers bent apart to be straight from the ceiling to the hanging track that had what was like shower curtain hooks that held the extended vac hose to be puleld theough out the soaces over the tools. You can buy the extented hoses throught home depot or even a swimming pool store. I will try and find the video im refering to.
If thats a channel drain running along the base of your wall, depending on how much you’re putting on the shelves it’s not a good idea to put the back legs of your shelving on it. It’s not designed to be load bearing and you could mess up the drain system if you crush it.
I had this type of shelving around the whole perimeter of my 2.5 car garage, in a previous home. The storage was so useful. But the price of 2x4's and plywood was probably a quarter of what it is now.
Better off right now buying those hard good plastic 5 tier shelves the wide black ones. Used those to build pantry storage in basement. Gonna stockpile reserves all summer so winter we hibernate
Great content and just what I needed since I'm about to try to build something. Anything. Lol since I've never worked with wood before I'm nervous BUT I've always wanted to so its time to try. 🙌🤘🏼🎊🎉🤞🏼
Cyanoacrylate might interfere with the wood glue, whether chemically or physically. It may not be a problem for the small shelves you're building, due to low potential load, but it may cause issues on larger pieces that rely more on the glue joint.
I built my storage system to have 6 uniquely sized spaces. My usual and unpublished creative project was with the future hope of one day subsiding my ever growing insatiable needs of *“More Cowbell”*
I did the exact same thing you gotta put the wheels on it so you can move it around because if it’s very heavy luggage, it’s very difficult to move around
I crack up at a negative comment that criticizes other negative comments! What do you think telling him his project is "overbuilt", a compliment? The lack of self-awareness is staggering today. People have no idea what they're doing anymore.
I did something like this in my shop. I realized only after all the building that the 2x4 took up a lot of shelf space. So I cut them down to 2x2 and gained that extra space. I kept the 2x4 where I needed the extra strength (top shelf that would hold heavy loads), but most shelves didn't really need that level of support. Hope this helps for someone. Great shelf.
Excellent
In hindsight, that makes so much sense. After all, the vast majority of shelving supports are thin, and not rectangular.
Thank you.
But these shelves can be rented out as sleeping space in any major city! 🫢
Very nice work
Agreed, it's very unlikely they'll buckle with the ply sheeting them, and wasting the couple inches on each level is annoying.
I hate when I'm taking apart some boards held with ~3 carpenter screws then glued in-between, its like what the heck is this overkill garbage!? I'm glad people are learning about joints again.
Since glue from 20 years ago has failed, and anything I do I expect to last longer then 20 years, I rarely ever use glue. Because ceiling tiles were falling once, because the glue failed, and the staples were not holding anymore either.
you aren’t understanding what is going on, it’s not overkill
the glue is the real fastener - the screws are there to act as clamps for the glue to the glue up is successful
@@mxmartinelli1 uh no, the screws are the main holding power. Glue alone is useless if all you're doing is a butt joint. If he did a mitre joint you might have an argument.
@@clayrush1413respectfully, i disagree. hundreds of videos have disproven this claim over the last few years
you may be right in the short term, the mechanical fasteners would be stronger
but while glue up on a butt joint may be relatively weaker than edge grain to edge grain, it’s certainly stronger than mechanical fasteners in end grain over time
mechanical fasteners weaken rapidly due to expansion and contraction of the wood, this is especially true with screwing into end grain as the majority of the movement is radial from the growth of the tree
It's an old myth. A good butt joint is surprisingly strong. You just usually have a long board off the end grain with lots of leverage, making it easy to fail. The butt joint is like 80% the strength of a miter
I love the French Cleat concept on the side of your storage unit. The thought never crossed my mind, but now I have a new project for next weekend. I’m going to do the same thing to my existing storage units. 👍🏽
Right? I just told my husband I'm heading to Home Depot!! He's in the kitchen doing the dishes and making dinner, I'm going to HD!!!
French Cleats, the workshop's equivalent of Picatinny rails.
@@robertdelaney7033 yes! 💯
You could use 1x4 and it would still be strong enough to park a dump truck on it' just sayin.
Great build! Love the hanging/removable shelves on the side the storage rack.
I have always LOVED FRENCH CLEATS! This is a brilliant use for them! I will definitely be implementing this throughout the garage and office. Might even be handy outside near sprinkler system or watering hoses.
Jaysus. What are you going to store on those shelves? Gold bars.
Very sturdy, but given the price of timber nowadays!
really makes the shelf space too small also
And he claims it's unique novel design lol. Like he invented the rectangular shape shelves.
But the shelves are only supported by the shear strength of 12 screws. Works for most things but a waste of a ton of wood which isn't the limiting factor for strength
"be kind, be awesome" the man said.
I buy cheap metal kit and beef up shelves with plywood
That's 20" of space used to support shelves that hold stuff that could have been supported with ¾" particle board (4½" total) you could have saved enough space for one more Shelf
AND YOU COULD START YOUR OWN CHANNEL WITH YOUR 16 SUBSCRIBERS INSTEAD OF BEING NASTY ON SOMEONES CHANNEL WHO WORKS REALLY HARD TO PUT OUT VIDEOS...🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
🐝 BE KIND 🐝
Particle board falls apart if it gets wet. So, if you put a gas chain saw on it, particle board would fall apart. And the sheer strength comes from 2x4's.
@normbograham shear strength isn't a generic term for overall strength. The 2x4s don't do much for the shear strength. Most sheet goods will come apart in water. The stuff that won't is too costly to be making shelves out of. A coat of paint will provide a lot of protection to partical board. I'd rather fix the float in thr chainsaw than give up 20 inches of space just in case it leaks. ..and I end up with 3 more leaky chainsaws (for the other shelves). I've been using partical board bordered in finger jointed 1x2 with ¾" dado plowed into it to receive the ¾" partical board, starting about 7/32" away from top edge which is where I lay in some ¼" Masonite. That's what I use for GP work bench surface. It's strong enough for what I do to it, which is a lot more than most "DIYers." The idea was to replace the Masonite when it wears out. It's been in use for over 20 years and still not worn out..
@@jdog4534 I’d like to see this shelf you’re describing, sounds nice!
@TheBurruss5 I'm not sure which shelve you're referring to, i make lots of shelves out of lots of different materials, but a good design would be to use particle board shelving (better would be to rip down a bunch of 1⅛" T&G plywood), screw in a bunch of one by two cleats into the wall at Shelf elevations. Use ⅜" All Thread Rod contained in ½"ø conduit (or ¾"ø or 1"ø). Drill holes through the plywood at intervals for support. Basically, the author and Rod will be used to support the shelves in the front in conjunction with the conduit. Start drilling holes in the wood with a forstner bit the same diameter as a conduit only go about an eighth inch or a quarter inch deep. It's just to keep the conduit centered. So basically it's going to be, shelf, conduit, shelf conduit, Shelf, and so on, up with ATR holding everything together. You don't have to use conduit but it looks cooler . It also looks cooler if you use splines in grooves plowed through the back edge of the shelf. It's a way cleaner look. I've also made shelves and work bench tops from old doors. The cheap hollow ones can be ripped then supported with 1x2 (ripped to fit void in door)
Unless you’re holding heavy loads,Rip those 2x4s in half. Save money and space.👍
Save money? That thing probably cost $500 to build
@@MindBodySoulOk not even close. Why don't you look up material costs for yourself and find out
Definitely overbuilt unless he is storing engine blocks on those shelves, haha
@@joebuslife9275 building something to last is overbuilt now? Ok
@@heckingbamboozled8097 it won't last any longer than a good design that used smaller timbers and less wood overall. Only way it would last longer is if he is putting stuff that was beyond the leaner designs weight capability. This is over built because there really is no way he is putting enough on those small shelves to get anywhere near their load limit.
Thank you. I’m trying to learn about power tools and wood work. Thank you for making this look easy.
You’re welcome!
You’re welcome!
My Dad made (sort of) a shelving unit thing like this guy....gosg back in like the late 70's. It was on the side of an upper shelving unit with doors that he built for her over her sewing machine. It was for the gargantuan amount of thread that she had. The little spools just slid in. The bottom 'shelf' was slightly at an angle. Top of the shelf to the floor, it held a bunch of thread.
Nice job but over kill on the timber size. Everyone has their own design when it comes to their own shop. I like the quick release shelf boxes handy as…
I like a man who pays attention to details and is also neat and tidy. Unfortunately, I’m not living with one of those.
I would love to see a strength comparison of clamping vs ca glue
Time is precious ...
So are you !!💯👍
Nice. I am just beginning my garage project and converting it to a shop. All these ideas are so inspiring! The one problem I am having is the vacuum system for dust control. I’m trying to figure out a way to make it convenient to switch from one Toole to another while leaving the vacuum itself in one place..
Ive seen something with a rail habging by what looked like wire hangers bent apart to be straight from the ceiling to the hanging track that had what was like shower curtain hooks that held the extended vac hose to be puleld theough out the soaces over the tools. You can buy the extented hoses throught home depot or even a swimming pool store. I will try and find the video im refering to.
If thats a channel drain running along the base of your wall, depending on how much you’re putting on the shelves it’s not a good idea to put the back legs of your shelving on it. It’s not designed to be load bearing and you could mess up the drain system if you crush it.
What is the point if wood glue on constru tion lumber when you are screwing it.
You think framers glue houses together?
Keeps the piece from warping or sagging where weight isn't near a screw point.
I had this type of shelving around the whole perimeter of my 2.5 car garage, in a previous home. The storage was so useful. But the price of 2x4's and plywood was probably a quarter of what it is now.
Better off right now buying those hard good plastic 5 tier shelves the wide black ones. Used those to build pantry storage in basement. Gonna stockpile reserves all summer so winter we hibernate
If I were making this nowadays, I'd rip the 2x4s into 2x2s and use chip board instead, and then paint it 🤑
@@lilcreaper007Those plastic shelves cost almost $80 now!!! They used to cost $30 about 5 years ago...
I'm so envious!!!
Very clever … Love this! 😊🩷
Love the bit at the end where he realised the cleats were too close together to use every one 😁
This is great! Good job.
Great content and just what I needed since I'm about to try to build something. Anything. Lol since I've never worked with wood before I'm nervous BUT I've always wanted to so its time to try. 🙌🤘🏼🎊🎉🤞🏼
Beautiful. Hard work and it paid off wonderfully
As soon as you said "be kind, be awesome" I had to hit Subscribe! 😄
Great thinking! Me too!
That's a beautiful build.
great idea and the tip about adding accelerator, genius!
Cyanoacrylate might interfere with the wood glue, whether chemically or physically.
It may not be a problem for the small shelves you're building, due to low potential load, but it may cause issues on larger pieces that rely more on the glue joint.
Salt that is often used to stop boards from moving during glue up. Reacts with PVA by pulling moisture out of it.
The idea of using wood glue, ca glue & accelerator is 45+ years old. Good idea but nothing new
Still nice to see it documented.
French clet. Pap split batton. Been using this method since 1982
Nice job!
"And remember Be kind awesome"
I think you must remind your self before anyone else
I did something similar, but cut the crosspieces down to 1.5 inch. Plenty strong enough and gives s lot more space.
JOHN MULANEY, carpenter.
I could buy a metal one from harbor freight cheaper then you built that one
Cool! Building your own gives you way more flexibility and customizability than something you can buy
That looks solid. 👌
Great job!
Have you Full video of this project?
Hugo from Brazil.
Wow, I love this 💞
I built my storage system to have 6 uniquely sized spaces. My usual and unpublished creative project was with the future hope of one day subsiding my ever growing insatiable needs of *“More Cowbell”*
The dude obviously owns a glue factory.
This might be just the solution I’ve been looking for to help organize my small shop.
Awesome!
looks real nice john
Nice. Is there a longer video with the full build?
Great idea 💯💖
Real nice dude !
Thank you!
Love it!!! Subbed.
Ooohhhh! So fancy! Love it ❤
Thank you for sharing.
Very nice
Love all this.
Never screw into the end-grain of a board. Not strong enough.
Instead, at the corners, make thin plywood triangles to form very strong corners.
I did the exact same thing you gotta put the wheels on it so you can move it around because if it’s very heavy luggage, it’s very difficult to move around
If you don’t put the bottom shelf in then roller bins are a better and less crap under the shelf option
Never been done!
Great skills
love this ❤
I made French cleats, but they weren’t the best. I should give it another try!
That looks great nice job t
Priceless
Karya cerdas dan kreative, hebat !
That's just sweet!
Very nice work.
This is wild I just built a shelf and had enough wood left to do the same thing lol
Finally , something that makes sense.😊
It reminds me of Matthew Peech’s, except he walled it in for like… wall type storage. I did mine with pegboard
Not totally unique but very well built 😊
French cleats are underutilized. 🎉
You spread with glue...practice the hinge hook and snap hinge hook.
I will try to be kind and awesome!!!
That's an insanely expensive piece of shelving.
It cost me $115 to build. You won’t be able to find a shelving unit this size, this sturdy, with this much storage for cheaper.
This is genius
Love it!
אהבתי🤩
אתה יצרתי ברמות על🥇
Excellent
That’s sweet
This looks great -overbuilt strength wise but that’s the cool part. I crack up at the negative comments here.
I crack up at a negative comment that criticizes other negative comments!
What do you think telling him his project is "overbuilt", a compliment?
The lack of self-awareness is staggering today. People have no idea what they're doing anymore.
Brilliant
Nice!
This video is narrated by Bill Hader's impression of Alan Alda.
Try a refrigerator door, a door with shelves.
Dude, don't use wood glue on construction lumber. Just don't.
Genuine question here, not being a jerk. I'm wondering why you say not to?
Why?
Nice!!!
Awesome
Thank you.
You’re welcome!
Shelves are dangerous though, they tell you to save stuff that should be sold.
CA expands, not shrink, when used with accelerater. This will undermine wood glue strength. Don't mix them. Use Brad nails or clamps.
1/4" plywood with the 2x4 glued and screwed will hold up anything other then the heaviest loads.
Looks heavy as heck
Screws and glue? Overkill
what would you estimate the cost of the materials used in this shelf. thanks
Nice job
What's the unique part ? You put a French cleat panel on the side of a shelf
Who builds a whole shelving unit then realizes a leg is too long and has to cut it?
Wouldn't you cut everything the right length before assembling it?
You forgot to put glue on the timber backing up against the drywall before you secured the shelving unit 😂
Jokes* nice unit
What’s the point of glue if you’re going to screw it together?
Extra Hold. Also helps keep it together into screwing and not many screws are used while they're not used everywhere especially on thin wood.
@@tubro007 thanks I’m an electrician not a carpenter and was curious.
Nothing. Glue doesn’t do a dam thing on end grain
Smart dude
Wow! Sliced bread!
How do you learn to do all that stuff? Do you go to a trade school? 🤔
Wie Dhalu wieder aussieht! Also die Skins in pubg werden ja wirklich immer bodenloser.
Guter nerf aber, schön auffällig 😂