Apple River stabbing trial: State seeks to dismiss 'sleeping' juror
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- The prosecution on Wednesday moved to dismiss a juror who they say was sleeping during testimony on Tuesday during the Apple River stabbing trial. The judge did not dismiss the juror.
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Good thing they can’t see ADD. In my head I would be hiking in the woods or on a space mission if I was on that jury
You sir, have made my day with that comment.
😂
😂😂😂😂
I'd be thinking about boobies. Big and small.
das funny! 😅
We're going to need to see the hour long footage of the sleepy juror...
ha ha
This dude should have told the team to get other witnesses. Just him alone he has no evidence.
They having a trial about the trial now. They gotta keep those lawyer fees rolling in! Lol the court system has become a circus nowadays.
@user-ek5nl1jc4b they want a fair trial. Having a juror sleep during trial is definitely a problem juror # 4021😂
The fact that these attorneys speak in such monotone, I’m surprised more people didn’t nod off…
Hell yeah
True😂
All the lies made it boring lol
Why do you summon 90+ y.o. for jury duty?
For real anybody over 65 is technically retired and that should apply across all sectors.
Are you serious??! The juror in question is over 90yrs old??! I agree, anyone over a certain age should be relieved from any such duties…but then again on the other hand, we have an elderly president falling asleep on the job supposedly running our country so….😵💫
@@krystaldaniels7940well I'm just now finding out that the juror was 90 years old and my problem is why would they even pick a 90 year old juror in the first place knowing that just be a 90 years old it's hard to be attentive even on their best day
@@krystaldaniels7940 They did not say age of the juror in question. But, on this trial they have three jurors in their 70s, one juror in their 90s.
How else do you expect juries to be selected? There isn't a unlimited amount of eligible people.
The judge was falling asleep during my trial. He ruled in my favor so it's ok.
LOL
I 100% guarantee this is a made-up story.
@@bowserhoudini5588😂😂
😂😂
@@bowserhoudini5588😂Thank the cheetos.
Crazy how a witness is cross-examined about a juror sleeping.
That was crazy. It would have been hard not to tell them, I'd be happy to dismiss myself.
Well, now we know it was a female who was sleepy. She probably knows this was pure self defense.
It's called desperation, the state probably realizes now it never should have brought the case to trial and are about to be embarrassed.
@@elizastar1973 💯 and you know the best thing? She can now sleep to her heart's content 😴
@@elizastar1973 Nope. She obviously knew this guy would be convicted for not attempting to retreat before using deadly force as Wisconsin law outlines you must do. I'm getting sleepy just by reading the "it was pure disemboweling self-defense" argument by m0r0ns like you.
This is ridiculous
U r
Man I bet this dude is really wishing he'd kept his mouth shut about the person sleeping 😹⚖️👨🏻⚖️☠️
Why is the investigator sitting at the table?
😂
@@Faretheewell608at every trial they have the head investigator very close to the prosecution. Like the Darrel Brooks trial Detective Casey was just behind the prosecution table along with a plain clothed under cover law enforcement officer.
He's obviously right, but he got torn apart on the stand.
Wtf is happening I bet it's boring as f sitting through a boring court case
Not guilty!!!
This investigator also said he didn’t detect the kids were drunk. Seriously?!?!
Aren't there cameras in the courtroom?? Can't they look at that? Also the AWFUL people out there speculating it MUST be the lady in her 90's are speculating based on age. No one said it was her. I was on a jury FULL sessions 9-5 every day for 3 months, where a 19 year old boy fell asleep. AGE has nothing to do with it. Even the judge said he didn't see anyone sleeping and even if they did the video is recorded and can be replayed for them.
Attacking the Jurors integrity at this stage of the trial is a bold move by the prosecution. Reeks of desperation!
Look, if i was on trial, is want people alert and paying attention to the facts and details... Wouldn't you?
@@nobody-fs8jj to be fair yes I would want that, but I’d wait to call it out until after the verdict. If it came back guilty then I’d try to get a retrial
it's not an attack on anyone's integrity, just the fact that they were asleep.
The problem is if a juror is sleeping throughout the trial at different times, that means they most likely already have an agenda and they already had their mind made up prior to even listening to all the evidence. So that means no matter what you argue with them what you talked to them about what you show them they're already going to have their mind made up. Weather is guilty or not guilty nobody knows but still it's not right because that person is just going off of assumptions and feelings instead of listening to evidence
Are you trying to excuse the fact a juror was asleep??? 😂😂 Ffs.
This reeks of desperation
From the book: Things You Should try when losing a case.
Except they won 😅
Except they won lol
The questioning that I have heard from the lawyers is at times certainly putting me to sleep.
"You woke up today, correct? And you are a human being, correct? And then you got a shower, brushed your teach, and came down to the courthouse- is that correct? Ok and correct, correct?"
You look 80 so I’m not surprised
I can't believe the witnesses stay awake at times bc of the drowning voice of the prosecution.
@@melindadurchholz3738Agree. Not to talk about the constant cut off sentences, the long, not making sense, sentences..the silence, then starting with a new question. It's unbelievable.
Ikr??
Why didn't he speak up at the time? Strange.
Interrupt proceedings?
@@corymaclean2534exactly
Uh in a courtroom while trial is in process when everyone in the courtroom is expected to remain SILENT what you expect him to do stand up and interrupt “trial” by shouting out “hey everybody that juror over there is sleeping”.
@bamadad53 yes!
@@bamadad53No, he should’ve told the prosecutor who would’ve asked the Judge if he could approach to discuss an issue he just became aware of concerning the jury. The Judge would’ve then excused the jury and they would’ve dealt with it just like they did here, except the juror probably would’ve been called to testify.
Anyone would sleep through this nonsensical prosecution. Not guilty.
💯😴
watch the fking tape.
@user-jq1so5vd2i He was attacked. He defended himself.
@user-jq1so5vd2ia bunch of idiots surrounding him then attacked Nick f around and found out what happens when you gang up on somebody
Nic is NOT innocent! Jail him
Why don't they ask the juror tif she fell asleep?
That makes to much sense.
They don’t want to de-identify the juror, which is why they can’t call her and why they use numbers.
Yeah get the juror on the stand. She should wave her right to silence and get on that stand and explain her naughty self!
It's too fast, free, and doesn't take all the time.
Tattle tale
They must be trying to get rid of a jury that the defense picked . 😮
There may be an older juror nodding off who the defense thinks could be sympathetic to Mr. Miu.
@@steviecrow914the desperate prosecutors are the one who called their own witness to testify not the defense.
@user-jq1so5vd2i The desperate prosecution couldn't do much worst than this foolish motion but throwing their own juror off would make it more comical.
The defense or prosecutors can't pick jurors lol
@@LightS_bRight you must think the tooth fairy picks them then.
All im learning from this trial is what a joke our judicial system is 😂
You just learning this now, How many years did that take?
Oj? How old are you?
@@jakeowens1770
oj trial was a piñata for the press..
Your just learning this now? Lmfao.
Just like the defendant's questioning by his own lawyer, And the district attorney saying objection leading non stop lmfao. Wtf is the point in "Leading"? Are we just gonna act like the defendant and lawyer in ANY court situation EVER hasn't been scripted? Like the Lawyer and Defendant didn't go over EXACTLY what they would be asking and HOW to exactly answer it.
There's literally 0 point in saying "Leading" And yes the Judicial system is so far out of date. We are currently running systems from the 17th century. We have so much tecnhology and understanding about things now but we can't update our systems at all? 250 years of American history is SHORT its not long but holy fuck can we update some shit?
Proescutor trying to improve his odds. Im sure the woke judge will give the state all the help it needs and then some... the "sleeping witness" didnt even know what time this "nap" occurred... sleazy attempt to get rid of possible not guilty jurors
This defense attorney. Wow. He is the man. The critical questioning is top notch.
I one million % agree with you!
I love your sarcasm
@@missmochiicecream I love your hate, you must be a liberal.
@@AmberYAHeaRd
How can you politicize this. The Defense Attorney maybe a Biden supporter
I just love the way the defense lawyer grilled the investigator on the sleepy juror 😅
You can tell that lawyer has pretty good raw intelligence regardless of how you feel about the defendant
Dude is a genius. Can think fast and speak coherently. Can relate really well to humans. Speaks kindly but gets the point across. Literally made to be a lawyer.
@@Psychiatricnerddelusional he's awful
@@LegendLengthit was idiotic to put Miu on the stand, didn’t help him at all
@@tombreckinridge6218 I think he performed well, the problem was his actions in the water (grabbing the raft etc.). I feel juries are quite suspicious if a self defense defendant doesn't take the stand. Because you kind of need to show why in your own words.
The state prosecutor is absolutely ridiculous
😮 completely amateur.. I noticed 😮
This whole trial is sick. 1 st degree murder is a joke. Now 1/2 way thru they wanna change the charges. Our justice system is corrupt
I mean the guy is trying to ruin Mr.Miu's life by charging him for Murder in what is clearly Self-Defense.
@@ligmasack9038 guilty Nice he's a murderer
@@ligmasack9038and he was successful 😮 go cry about it
This guy was definitely the Hall Monitor in middle school
Lol .. 😂😂😂
Principal's son type. Grows up to be a gym teacher/coach... nttawwt.
😂😂😂
I bet this guy don't say anything about another sleeping juror.
👆 yep, jurors could be keeling over, having seizures & pooping theyselves & this guy's not saying sheet! 😵🤫😶
Sleazy attempt of prosecution to get rid of any likely not guilty jurors. Pathetic and illegal.
This guy's a clown how did he become an investigator?
@@bartmanxoxoyou’re hilarious! I thought the same thing haha
@@bartmanxoxo for real tho... I guess I look at it like this.. if you observe a nodding juror, and you find it troublesome enough that it could have an impact on their ability to do their duties as a juror, or an impact on either sides' right to a fair trial...so much so, that you speak up about it...then stand on business and mean what you say with some conviction and purpose!?!? He seems so confused about every related question 🤔 it's weird and not convincing at ALL, imo.. and that just makes it seem sketchy, at best..Considering that he's an investigator on this very important and public trial, as well as a witness in the case (amongst other cases too, presumably), AND he was willing to go as far as testifying under oath about the alleged drowsy juror, then he should be well equipped to firmly and concisely state what he witnessed, and answer any questions about it quickly and confidently, without hesitation, while standing tall and carrying on with his day💯🤷🏾♀️ but that did not happen.. he seemed forced, confused, and almost like he was questioning his own words in real time on the stand as if it was his very 1st time in a courtroom or on the stand..... Weird af
I say it again: “From bullies to crybabies in seconds” the Trial
From a free man to a child murder in prison in seconds. Make better Decisions
@@TheMaestro7777777 those aren’t kids bro, old enough to know the difference
There best part is that the teens didn’t want to show up to testify the state had to get warrants out to make them come in and they give the most worst interviews ever 😂
The one kid said they yelled out “for the culture” as a way to ask for help 😂😂😂 wtf
@@carlosleon9580doesn’t matter if they’re kids, still murder
“My whole life, down the tubes.” -Nicolae Miu (when he found out one of the teens he stabbed had died)
Just charge Mui with obstruction of justice, lying to law enforcement, and let him go with time served. It's like they have a volunteer prosecution team.
Well they added the lesser charge of UNINTENTIONAL homicide, and that might stick.
Nah, lol
No , he's going to spend the rest of his life in prison
I wonder how you would feel if it was your unarmed son who was gutted like a fish and died within 2 minutes, over something so senseless, even if he was acting like a jerk before hand. The kid was a straight A student who worked and had plans to attend college. I lost my son at age 26. It is devastating and heartbreaking.
@@ellybean5868 I’m so sad to read this. I’m so sorry for your loss ❤️ F**k Miu. Dirty old piece of sh*.
Given that the altercation was captured on video, this whole case should not have lasted more than two or three days. 90 percent of the witnesses were totally unproductive or so overtly fantasizing ("he was molesting little kids") that they should never have been called to testify.
This guy should be home in his recliner. These kids were ridiculous.
@GoRideConnor that's not what he said. It needs a trial but he has to walk it's not murder
@@davidwestwater2219 i honestly don't see why there should be a trial in an ideal world. If you are punched to the ground after being screamed at by 13 people you should fear for your life.
Unless you somehow know them personally.
Many people have parjured themselfs. I don’t understand why it is not enforced as a law that much. So many people lie under oath without any consequences other than changing the life’s of people involved.
EXACTLY
Wow… the defense went in harder on the poor guy trying to report the sleeping juror than actual witnesses to the crime.😆
That “poor guy” is the lead investigator sitting right next to the prosecutor. They were watching a video. He could have informed the attorney right next to him!
This “poor guy” is a tool for the prosecution to replace a member of jury they figured out was so unimpressed with the prosecution’s tactics of wearing down the defendant and the witnesses for the defense with lengthy pointless interrogations that she fell asleep. Of course, they want to get her out. And that’s precisely why the defense should rightly protest - that member of jury will sure take it personally and be even more critical of the prosecution’s job in this case.
A request to dismiss a juror is a major event in a trial, they are absolutely within their rights to grill this tattletale thoroughly. And the fact that this "lead" investigator can't really substantiate his claim with exact detail is ridiculous.
@@DoctorVinnieBoombatzI have to agree. If you decide to go forward with getting one in the jury dismissed, then you better have your things in order, time, segment and so on. He is totally unprepared, so unprofessional.
@@anniezion I am rather shocked at the performance of the DA, to be honest, really underwhelming. Reminds me of the Rittenhouse case as well (which one of these defense attorneys was on).
I’ve notice the investigator during the trial and I have to say he isn’t a fireball himself🤣
@speccyiiii7677THAT HAIR !!! O M freekin G !
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
How do you prove a juror was sleeping a day later?
footage
@@ChristopherGray00 there's no footage of the jurors. And it is strange only one guy noticed a juror sleeping for an hour, yet didn't say anything. bs
@@crewrangergaming9582 so this guy would lie on the stand and put himself at legal jeopardy to argue a juror was sleeping... for what benefit exactly?
@@ChristopherGray00 the amount of lies people tell while on the stand.. if you knew that.
@@ChristopherGray00 apparently there are quite a few older people in the stand. 4 over the age of 70.
Probably nervous they're going to side with Nic.
This Prosecutor realizes he is losing, and wants a new trial. He is horrible.
Clearly desperation at this point.
I'm surprised he has a hand left the way he was chewing it off when the defense was cross-examining his so-called victims.
Yeah, just like Marcia Clark and Chris Darden realized they were losing when they asked OJ to try on the glove. I bet you think OJ was just "defending himself" from Nicole.
@@Stabsnipers Not sure anyone here even knows what you are referring to.
@@Dan-oj4iq I'm referring to the fact that just because the prosecutor sucks doesn't mean the defendant is not guilty.
Are you a Millennial Zoomer or were you living under a rock during the OJ Simpson trial?
You can try this case 1000 times but that video will show "self defense" every time
The State is grasping for straws since they have completely botched this nonsensical case. Let this man go! We, the people, are allowed to defend ourselves from attack. Police even vouch they have milliseconds to respond to a threat.
Wether he is let go or not is up to the jury, not you.
@@colleenpiechowski8511we are the silent jury. Let him go!colleenpi
Paper straws at that. Can't hurt the turtles
Even the state’s investigator has no credibility 🤦♀️
yeah it's wild he couldn't have written down the time or anything. like cmon man
Why. This is important if you were going away for murder would you want ppl falling asleep?
So, if he had been at the river, he wouldn't have acted but raised it later.. he's bad as a witness for his own complaint.
They are incredibly desperate knowing they are getting clobbered.
A real Fani
Hey Wisconsin either allow the trial to continue or drop the charges. Stop wasting taxpayer's money and time!!
Fair enough but wasting the taxpayers money is trivial here in the sense that it doesn't even cost the taxpayer more than a penny. The Defendant on the other hand, they are ruining his life. I'm not saying wasting tax payer money is ok, rather, than its small compared to what they're doing to Nicolae, they are awful.
Exactly, who do they think they are wasting our tax dollars? The police?
🎯
so no one cares about the juror sleeping who will be voting on the entire life of a man. Okay cool, just checking.
Exactly
Someone needs to investigate the investigator.
He seems so confused maybe he was the one that fell asleep and dreamed it was the juror ... ridiculous
Haven't watched the whole trial, but it seems the state wants that particular juror dismissed while the defense does not want her dismissed. State might have received information that this juror is hostile to the prosecution and the state feels their case is shaky as it is.
It is possible that they already knew that this specific juror was biased for the defense from the beginning (lawyers from each side can only boot off so many people when picking the jury to begin with - they have a limited amount of bootings they can do). However, it should be noted that this person isn’t even on the jury as of yet, because it was stated in this video that she is an alternate, so she might not have any input on this trial at all.
They were trying so hard to get that juror thrown off because the prosecution knows that she will acquit
She cracked the code to get out of jury duty when all else fails
😂😂😂😂
Yeah she really cracked the code. As if nobody knew that sleeping or not paying attention while being a juror in a murder trial can get you kicked off the jury. 🙄
In most jurisdictions being old is a valid excuse to get out of jury duty.
😂
@@dianelavoie6208how old? Miu?
These jurors had to listen to all this nonsense. These teenagers lying! Watching the video of them attacking this man. The whole trial was a waste of taxpayers money, he should never have been charged
He killed a boy who had just walked over. 😮😮😮
@@mariecompany1467 a trunk teenager who had been taunting him and pushing him
Not guilty
Nice try. The state knows it's going to lose
Sadly it didn’t. I don’t know how the defense lost. Or moreover I don’t know how the state won! They had a whole group full of liars! Their own video showed that they were ALL liars but the jury STILL found Nic guilty!
I’m so confused and frustrated with the verdict!
What a miscarriage of justice, this whole trial. Sad.
Is this common? Not a juror nodding off but for the prosecutor to question his own witness about the juror.
I’ve never seen such a thing
this is a very interesting trial. The state built up sympathy against the defendant. But appeared to get it wrong. Clear to me the kids were bullying, harassing and picking a harmful fight. I don't often route for the defense.
Well said.
Apparently they were all sleeping during the trial because they got it completely wrong!
This was an absolute joke of a jury.
Lol the prosecution's case is so weak they're getting desperate.
After hearing the verdict, I think they were all sleeping.
Apparently the entire jury was asleep the whole time
This is like Seinfeld.
Her chin went down....not that there's anything wrong with that!
Except it is not funny. "Is this real, man?? This isn't REAL!!!" Did you hear how high that bigman's voice got when he saw the blood in the water? Screaming like a little girl... hit higher notes than Mariah Carey there.
Where's Jackie Chiles??!
😂😂😂
Nodding off is a little different than full blown sleeping.
You still could miss important evidence… you need to be paying attention when someone’s being charged for murder!!!
Take no Doze
Someone is on trial for murder. The jurors can’t be nodding off or sleeping. That’s ridiculous. Grounds for a mistrial
As someone who would occasionally "nod off" in class, you miss a a lot of info.
Either way, the juror wasn't paying attention.
I’m surprised Mr miu was charged after watching that video. What those young adults , not kids , did to him was awful. I would be ashamed if my child acted that way.
The defense lawyers are top notch
The State just insulted the entire jury. Disgusting.
Should you ever be in a position of defending yourself on trial I hope the jury selected is able to stay awake. It's not an insult to anyone if the juror was indeed sleeping
lol how so? You don’t think it’s important for someone deciding the rest of a man’s life to pay attention?
No they didn't😂 do you over react to everything or just other people's lives? If i was on trial, I'd want everyone awake and paying attention to facts and details... Wouldn't you? My Lord, careful what you wish for others.
I would hope the jury isn’t sleeping through parts of the trial where they might miss something crucial as a result. If they are sleeping and not taking the case seriously they could make a incorrect decision at the end. Removing a sleeping juror has multiple reasons of why they should be removed.
This should have been addressed when it happened, not now.
Prosecution has to resort to stacking "new" charges and bore the jury with lengthy instructions.
This guy totally was the kid who told the teacher that they forgot to give out homework before classes ended for the weekend.
Jurrors sleep because they have heard enough...i am sick to my stomach the way they are trying to destroy this poor man..what good is it going to destroy this man's life over this most unfortunate situation ..😮
Bad parents not teaching kids that you dont poke the bear.
The kids knew stranger danger & staying away from weirdos
Or they'll get poked back. Literally
I dozed off twice while watching this.
😂
The state has did a horrible job prosecuting this case and with there boring questions. There trying g to get a redo.
That doesn't mean she wasn't listening.
I can take a nap and hear everything.
This poor man was first humiliated and slapped for no other reason than he was standing alone in the river and they didn't like "his look". Now they're dragging this on because those spoiled, violent and remorseless punks want revenge for his audacity to defend himself after they backed him into a corner.
Agree.
most accurate statement.
@@ZugZugMahogny 1. no one asked him to leave, they were demanding that he leave, which he had no obligation to do. It's not their river. 2. He slapped her because she was verbally and physically assaulting him. Her hands were on him first, he pushed her away. 3. When you're surrounded by a gang of visibly drunk, testosterone filled teen boys who are closing in on your laughing hysterically, you'd pull your knife out too.
@@ZugZugMahognywhy is it all you fOr tHe CuLTurE enablers don't seem to know even the basic established facts of the case
@@ZugZugMahogny who are they to tell anyone to leave a river? Vulgar alcoholics don't get to mark territories in public parks.
He saw her sleeping for “over an hour during the video”; Prosecuter: “the video was only 56 minutes”. 😂😂😂😂
This trial has been a $h:t show from the start!! I found it hard to listen to that attorney at times because he began every sentence/question with “And” and then ended every statement/question with “right?”. Here we are, on the day of jury deliberations and they come up with a juror sleeping through extremely important portions of the trial?! You have GOT to be kidding🙄
😊I know, “right?” Ugh….
The fact he didn't bring it up to the team so at least there could be more witnesses but only after the fact is certainly suspicious. Not to mention his answers to questioning didn't seem convincing.
It’s because everyone knows he is guilty
Even he knows he is guilty 😂
He "asked" the witnesses a question then followed every question with saying "Correct" before witness could answer.
Now all the jurors are asleep
This is like a SNL sketch 😂
The judge is sitting behind home plate and he’s the umpire. How did he not see it?
That's because it didn't happen. More BS to confuse the fact the apple river video is the only evidence that matters.
@@johnw8984yep. And they are wanting that juror out because of their age. An older person will understand the fear dude felt being circled in water.
He tattles that someone dozed off when the entire story and truth is in the video.
I feel bad for Hudson WI as they have a corrupt DA, prosecutor and detective. Total corruption.
Judge seems a little corrupt too
She fell asleep because she knows the man is innocent.
The prosecution is REACHING. Desperate attempt from a losing side.
I love how they're like "We do have a witness your honor, our best friend sitting right next to us"
Worst prosecution...
@@constancedenchy9801defense *
That investigator looks very unprofessional.
Why's that?
He has autism!
@@heathersiegler6837it's his gnarly gangly hair do !
@@tonystevenson26😂😂
Looks like a grease ball😂
My problem is why would you pick a 90 year old juror knowing that being that old it's hard to pay attention to things and it's hard to stay awake. And even if the juror was awake, it's still hard for someone that old listen to hear into just be attentive in the first place let alone being sleepy
Because they think old people will be sympathetic to an older supposedly frail defendant.
Have you been 90 before? How do you know what it's like? 😂
@@waypay1lol right my dad is 90 and totally coherent! 😆
So you like to discriminate against the elders.
They shouldn’t have anyone over 65 as a jury member
No matter what happens there's a group of teenagers that will think twice before fuckin with anyone else.
Unfortunately they received no consequences so all they learned was lie lie and to deny unfortunately they will continue to break the law since they had no respect for it by drinking underage and using drugs then lying to police and on the stand
They have someone on that jury that is over 90. Why in the world anyone would think that's a good idea is beyond me.
I dont think the reckless endangermant is completely fair ...
He was being hit, shoved, further attack imminent. After being struck in head he defended with knife , people potentially attacking him Defense needs to help him
Prosecution calls their own investigator as a witness? Clown court. Miu is innocent!
lmfao its crazy how you people are so emotionally bought into this case
@@berrybones3112it sounds like you are the one feeling yourself; you need to use your brain.
This is objectively ridiculous
@@dang99991 You a Matt Walsh fan? is that why you have no idea what is happening in the case and you're calling it ridiculous? wanna compare it to the rittenhouse case next for me even though that case is nothing like this one?
@@berrybones3112 I did notice the Judge disagreed with you and denied the prosecution’s motion to remove the juror. Write him a letter if you are so upset. Then do yourself a favor and go back to the 3rd grade and get a GED
So that dude see that jury sleep yesterday. But have hard too remember.. haha
Ask the juror; she might have an explanation.
Was the juror summoned really over 90 years old??
There's no confirmation that it was her. But in the chat we all assumed it was the 90yr old lol
The 90 yr old is a man. The “sleeping” juror is a woman
A desperate ploy by the state. Thankfully, this scummy attempt at dismissal was denied.
Don’t jury’s always have alternates? Why wouldn’t they just dismiss her and put in an alternate instead of trying to get an entire new trial
I don't think k the always have an alternate. You think they would on a murder case.
I believe they do have an alternate witness but they also must investigate this in a court of law to be fair.
@@keli449 I like the point the judge made that during the alleged “nod off/sleeping” they were playing a video that she could just rewatch later. I wonder if since all of these trials are being filmed now, if the jury could technically request to review any part they might want to see again. Cause the judge said “it’s not like live testimony that is lost forever”… but in actuality it won’t be lost forever. It’s on UA-cam 😂
Because the prosecution is trying to get rid of a juror they believe will side with the defense. They’re playing games.
They probably did.
State and Investigator know they are going to lose.
Yea, state didn’t lose the case, so stick that where the sun don’t shine
yeah?
Lololol
@@susieque5030unbelievable how the jury found him guilty just watching those teenagers lie on the stand under oath it was so obvious they couldn't even lie well so the jury had to hear their testimony and been like ok these kids have no respect for anyone nor the law and they still choose to break the law after 2 years of lying to police drinking and drugging underage harassing someone especially an elder verbally then physically pushing him in the water trying to hold him down and punching his head all while laughing at him calling him names and saying stupid things like for the culture!!! Video taping the whole thing and after the man took all that abuse in the water he and I know I would have feared for my life and so would all of you he then brings out a knife to hold up so they would stop and back away but they were still close enough for him to start swinging that knife around until some people finally backed up and then here comes Issac running up to choke him not once but twice where he leaned into Miu to get him to the ground to make it easier to choke him and in the process of doing that he pushed himself onto the knife and that is what killed him, instead of calling the police when he saw this assault going on he decided to take it in his own hands to go down and try and kill the old man and got killed in the process..was that a good decision of a good young man that might of thought differently if he had been taught right from wrong or had been taught how to act in public and to never disrespect your elders. Ever!!! If they were feeling scared which the video shows they were not scared at all until it was too late! I can't believe out of that many teens that not one of them stepped up and did the right thing and called the police immediately and or told these so called friends to stop their behavior right now or I'm going to fuck your life up! That's what I would have said to my friends if I ever saw them do something so vile to anyone especially an old man by himself! You. Better believe I would have called the police and told the truth on them because I certainly would not continue a friendship with evil kids that saw that as entertainment! Sickening
Shouldn't even be a trial
They have to think of something because they know they are going to lose...SMH
Not sure why you think that would have made a difference if that was a fact, but obviously you called that one 100% wrong so...
This is convenient 🤭🤷♀️🙄
Self Defense/Not Guilty
This investigator is terrible. I wouldn’t put him on any case. Looks unprofessional. He could’ve written a note as it happened. Sounds terrible on the stand. Ugh
Do we know if this 'sleeping juror' made it onto the 12 person deliberation jury or was a dismissed alternative? Hopefully defense appeals.
Toss the prosecutor! This guy is so annoying. Never saw an attorney on either side talk and make a point so slowly. Geez!
Dismissing himself from the abomination of a trial.
This guy is a detective/investigator for the state?
Moves like this make it clear the State has no case.
Unfortunately, 12 people got it wrong
@@B_Bodziak No, 12 people got it right!
Obviously they did have a case, you armchair lawyers should stick to cleaning toilets!
@@stevemcintosh6711 No they didn't. You couldn't wait to come right here when you heard the verdict as if somehow that proves anything other than the State doesn't need shit to prosecute you. The state was sweating that whole time. Any half wit could see that. This just shows how little prepared a State can be to sway a jury as well as how dumb it is to talk to police. Nothing else.
@@stevemcintosh6711 Your a wannabe prosecutor. Probably currently a public pretender at best. Your a dime a dozen if you even are an attorney. It's the people that scrub toilets, cook, clean, and sweat every day at work that keep this Country going and you'd do well to remember that. I'm not an attorney but I'll wager I have a more impressive caseload than you do. I beat bogus felony assault charges from solitary confinement with a BS public pretender but I was smart enough to use that time to hit the law library that was suddenly readily available. Law books that blue collar folks won't ever have access too but the term the prosecutor used b4 I got released was "jail house lawyer". The hardest part about being a lawyer is filling out the legal paperwork and making sure it's all correct and it's the paralegals that do that for them. A blue collar worker. So suck on that bruh.
Request denied !
the police investigator is allowed to testify as to jury conduct? That seems odd!!!!
I don’t believe him. He seems like the kinda guy who doesn’t return his shopping cart to the cart corral.
And parks in handicap 😊
This guy sounds like he’s being coached, he remembers the sleeping but stumbles on everything else.
Dirty tricks. This guy is not an expert. The judge should be watching the jury.
They are trying to dismiss a not guilty vote.
I hope the defense appeals on these and any other grounds they can find!