I was born August 1957. I've only ever seen one Edsel wagon and that was a 4 door. Glad to get a look under the hood. The 3 speed manual also helps make it rare.
I was born in August 1959 when I grew up the neighbor had a four door wagon behind his garage abandon we used to play in it pretending we were driving and play with the push button transmission, I wonder if that car still exist
I had a '58 Roundup. Just like this one, it didn't have any options. 3 speed Edsel's used a '56 Mercury steering column, and they had a Ford truck transmission to handle all of the power from the Edsel engine. They also had a very hefty clutch. Wish I still had it.
I was lucky to see one running, albeit my dad spotted it, defiantly a rare car. Lol, maybe rare for good reasons. Mind you I'm probably the only 20 year old girl to know what this car is...
Your Roundup would be a big hit at the annual convention of the IEC in Portage, WI later this month. Hopefully you're already a member and are planning to be there....
A dedicated Ford Edsel lover has owned it for years now. It's in very good hands. The right person has it and I feel good that he's the one that has this great little legacy car.
The basic shell is the same as the '58 Ford Ranch Wagon 2 door. When I was a child we had a neighbor who had a '58 Ranch Wagon 2 door. I remember it being a V8 with 3 speed stick on the column. I recall the wife of the owner frequently had a hard time starting it as she would often flood the engine. Fords of that time period were often very sensitive to flooding if you didn't know the right technique to start them. I personally like the Edsel's styling better.
My first was a '56 Customline Ranch Wagon with the T-Bird 312 Y-Block and its 'toilet bowl' square based Holley. They not only flooded easily but were prone to vapor lock. I remember there being a low rider custom '58 Ranchero with an Edsel front clip and deep red / black lace paint job not far from where I lived in the early 70s. The paint was a bit 'over the top' (though very well done) but the body lines worked wonderfully.
This car has so much going for it, some may not even realize. First, the 3 on the tree has proved over time to be the best of the 58 Edsel transmissions. Otherwise, you'd have the push button automatic which was prone to fail for numerous reasons. What happened to the air cleaner on this? 400 V8, I'm guessing was more responsive than the smaller Edsel V8's. A big plus that most people would not even realize unless you've used wagons is the sliding rear window. I removed the rear window replacing the right rear quarter panel on my Mercury wagon, and found that having the window out made the rear much easier to access. You can reach in the side window and grab something in the tailgate area without opening the tailgate. Most people would never realize how great this sliding window is, since it has not been an option for over 60 years. To keep water out, all you need to do is slide the window shut. A luggage rack was probably another option available on Ford wagons. Station wagons like this are superior to the many SUV's today, because the lower roof of a wagon is easier to access than the roof on SUV's and minivans. You need a step ladder to access the roof on many new SUV's and minivans. Note that many of the new SUV's and minivans have roof antennas which restrict a good portion of the usable roof space. Some SUV's like the new Chevy Tahoe, when the tailgate is open, a part of the rear roof goes up in the air, making it impossible to open the tailgate if something stored on the roof extends over the rear. You would have to remove whatever is on the roof to open the tailgate. This would be the ultimate wagon with a luggage rack.
Why did car makers make so few cars then and now it's in the millions? Beautiful Edsel you have there! I love the 50's wagons, I had a 58' Edsel 2 door hardtop (Pacer) in the early 90's I wish I had the money to restore it. I had to sell it after a year
It all comes down to demand. The Edsel was poorly received on introduction, but quickly lost its initial popularity. The styling was out of the mainstream, and 'controversial' was the kindest word used to describe it. The sharp recession in 1958 didn't help, either.
Why back in the 50's, did automakers build so few cars where now it is in the millions of virtually every make and model???Beautiful Edsel, I had a 58' Pacer two door hardtop I wish I had the money to restore it with!
What part of our beautiful Commonwealth do you call home? I live in the northern Philly suburbs. I spied the '58 PA plate and the '73 PA inspection sticker.
@@bcabmac I sold it to a friend and fellow veteran when we had to move back in 2012. I miss that truck all the time. Your Edsel is a truly nice piece btw, I hope it didn't seem like I was downing it.
@@hendo337 Not at all. It's just car talk. It was actually my sons, it was just too nice and original to expose to road conditions because everything was like a time capsule in the car. What's your next ambition for a vehicle?? Another truck? Or some older American iron.
@@bcabmac I have 2004 GTO and a 2003 Silverado 2500. I am in the LS camp now. I haven't been made videos in years. I might one day if I ever have anything worth sharing.
From the horse collar grill to the boomarang taillights, this is sure an interesting car. I knew about the 4 door Bermuda, but not about a two door. Ford spent way too much money trying to cover every market price and body type. Usually, you see these cars with the push button drive where the horn usually went. Looks like it belongs in an Ed Wood movie. Would make a truly freightening meat wagon - hearse.
Neil Dickson I believe that it was either "Hemmings Classic Car" or "Special Interest Autos" that did an article about an Edsel Amble wagon that was also based on a '58 Edsel 2 door wagon. In those days,it was common to see ambulances based on production station wagons,either 2 or 4 door models;in some cases they had a modified,raised roof to accommodate people standing up inside of them. These could be based on a variety of different makes and models,but they were most often seen on Cadillac commercial chassis,especially those that were used by Fire Departments.Starting around 1972,ambulances began to be built on truck chassis.I have not seen a car based ambulance newer than about 1975...
12:31 The Atlantic station, later to become Arco, then back to Atlantic, was once a very fancy building, not like the boxey ones people are used to. The building was later converted to a AM/PM mini market. After the new Atantic merged with Sunoco, they tore down the building in favor of a modern A Plus.
Actually the Ford family didn't want the car line to be named after Edsel Ford. They just couldn't come up with a better name (and believe me they tried.)
Edsel Ford's widow told Ford President Earnest Breech that she"... couldn't bear to see [her late husband's] name spinning around on millions of hubcaps."
The credit partially goes to an involved mechanic who worked at the dealership in the 70s. that saw to it that the car was continously maintained as garage kept. Funny enough is that at the time they didn't like it to be seen when at the dealership service because of the negative perception and stigma of an Edsel might reflect badly on them. Ain't that a hoot.
My first car was a '56 Ford Customline Ranch Wagon (2 door). They were once fairly common. The '55 - '57 Chevrolet Nomads have always had a 'following'.
..oh, and what are "original miles"?...as opposed to miles that are not original?...or not real?...this has always puzzled me...anyways, very nice car! :)
And mileage when not documented and unproven should be stated as " TMU " = True mileage unknown. But by law most cars this age are listed as Exempt from Federal mileage disclosure. However, when you title it. In some states if you have documentation, they may allow you to report the actual miles on the new title. Some title clerks don't bother to ask and automatically Exempt it. But even if its Exempted on the new title hold on to the documentation and dont lose or destroy it. Things such as an original inspection sticker with date and mileage report on it. ( do not remove from car unless you dont care ) Dealership maintenance stickers with mileage and dates. Original sales order from dealer. Copy of original title or last title with mileage stated on it. Things like that. Keep it all if your doing a frame up restoration and want the cars provenance provable.
Also, it's not a "Ford Edsel Roundup." Edsel is a separate make like Lincoln and Mercury so leave the "Ford" out of it in the future. If this is your first Edsel I suggest you go to Wikipedia and read up on the car as well as Edsel Ford the man. I currently own a '60 Ranger which is my 6th Edsel and I know for a fact that people will ask you a lot of questions about it....
IT is ugly! Just saying, don't bite my head off!😂 Good thing gas prices weren't what they are now, this is a gas guzzler, now!!! The dashboard and steering wheel is beautiful!!! ALL THAT CHROME, BEAUTIFUL!!!
Obviously Ford's advertising went way past honest, "new and different car in every respect", total lie. "flowing graceful lines sculptured into the sheet metal".. another total lie and all it took was one look to know that it was all hype and empty lies. The cars were built in the same line as the standard Ford and the assembly workers were upset about it because the cars were not the same. In many ways they were, but in enough ways not- and the employees wanted more pay to go through the extra hassle and time to build it, it was more work- and they often deliberately did shoddy work assembling many of these cars. Edsel was my very first car and I have a special affection for them but you have to admit, this car was a LOSER and all it did was disappoint- the consumer, the assembly workers, the investors, the dealers (some of whom committed suicide) and the Ford Motor Company. McNamera came in to kill it. Ford just tried way too hard on the Edsel. They said it was the wrong car at the wrong time. I think it was just the wrong car. I'd love to have another one , and this car is definitely a rare well preserved gem!
Why would anyone would buy a two door station wagon of any brand? The whole idea of a station wagon is to haul bigger loads and more people easier than a sedan.. Only having two doors totally defeats the purpose that the vehicle was designed for.
One of the reasons why people bought two door wagons - and sometimes other two door cars - was because children could not accidentally open the doors,and possibly fall out of the car while moving.Keep in mind that cars didn't yet have seat belts at that time,and even when seat belts came out a few years later,most people still didn't use them.IIRC,there were no child safety seats at that time either.At least they couldn't fall out of a two door vehicle....
I’m 66 years old and my aunt had one and I remember riding in it used to love to ride in that car
Nice video--with the exception of that damned lollipop song--paticularly in a car WITHOUT a radio!
That song always drove me nuts
I actually own a 1958 Edsel wagon!
13:21...Great shot of the underside of the driver's door! (an area highly prone to rust on many ancientmobiles).
Very classy dashboard for a cheapie model. Roundup was the lowest price Edsel in the lineup. Beautiful car!
I see 4 options.... two tone paint,
clock, overdrive, and most likely a heater-defroster which was still an option back then. Beautiful car!👍
The V-8 was standard, there were no optional engines.
Station wagons are freaking cool!
My first car was a '56 Ford Customline Ranch Wagon (2 door) with T-Bird 312 V8.
I was born August 1957. I've only ever seen one Edsel wagon and that was a 4 door. Glad to get a look under the hood. The 3 speed manual also helps make it rare.
I was born in August 1959 when I grew up the neighbor had a four door wagon behind his garage abandon we used to play in it pretending we were driving and play with the push button transmission, I wonder if that car still exist
I had a '58 Roundup. Just like this one, it didn't have any options. 3 speed Edsel's used a '56 Mercury steering column, and they had a Ford truck transmission to handle all of the power from the Edsel engine. They also had a very hefty clutch. Wish I still had it.
WHY DO You Wish THAT ????
@@tomflendodo7297 For one thing, with that powerful engine, I could leave Corvettes and Camaros in the dust. Of course, that was back in the 1970's.
I was lucky to see one running, albeit my dad spotted it, defiantly a rare car. Lol, maybe rare for good reasons. Mind you I'm probably the only 20 year old girl to know what this car is...
Named after Henry Fords son, EDSEL.
Your Roundup would be a big hit at the annual convention of the IEC in Portage, WI later this month. Hopefully you're already a member and are planning to be there....
A dedicated Ford Edsel lover has owned it for years now. It's in very good hands. The right person has it and I feel good that he's the one that has this great little legacy car.
The basic shell is the same as the '58 Ford Ranch Wagon 2 door. When I was a child we had a neighbor who had a '58 Ranch Wagon 2 door. I remember it being a V8 with 3 speed stick on the column. I recall the wife of the owner frequently had a hard time starting it as she would often flood the engine. Fords of that time period were often very sensitive to flooding if you didn't know the right technique to start them. I personally like the Edsel's styling better.
My first was a '56 Customline Ranch Wagon with the T-Bird 312 Y-Block and its 'toilet bowl' square based Holley. They not only flooded easily but were prone to vapor lock.
I remember there being a low rider custom '58 Ranchero with an Edsel front clip and deep red / black lace paint job not far from where I lived in the early 70s. The paint was a bit 'over the top' (though very well done) but the body lines worked wonderfully.
This car has so much going for it, some may not even realize. First, the 3 on the tree has proved over time to be the best of the 58 Edsel transmissions. Otherwise, you'd have the push button automatic which was prone to fail for numerous reasons. What happened to the air cleaner on this? 400 V8, I'm guessing was more responsive than the smaller Edsel V8's. A big plus that most people would not even realize unless you've used wagons is the sliding rear window. I removed the rear window replacing the right rear quarter panel on my Mercury wagon, and found that having the window out made the rear much easier to access. You can reach in the side window and grab something in the tailgate area without opening the tailgate. Most people would never realize how great this sliding window is, since it has not been an option for over 60 years. To keep water out, all you need to do is slide the window shut. A luggage rack was probably another option available on Ford wagons. Station wagons like this are superior to the many SUV's today, because the lower roof of a wagon is easier to access than the roof on SUV's and minivans. You need a step ladder to access the roof on many new SUV's and minivans. Note that many of the new SUV's and minivans have roof antennas which restrict a good portion of the usable roof space. Some SUV's like the new Chevy Tahoe, when the tailgate is open, a part of the rear roof goes up in the air, making it impossible to open the tailgate if something stored on the roof extends over the rear. You would have to remove whatever is on the roof to open the tailgate. This would be the ultimate wagon with a luggage rack.
Needs some whitewall tires on it. What an amazing Edsel wagon!
Why did car makers make so few cars then and now it's in the millions? Beautiful Edsel you have there! I love the 50's wagons, I had a 58' Edsel 2 door hardtop (Pacer) in the early 90's I wish I had the money to restore it. I had to sell it after a year
It all comes down to demand.
The Edsel was poorly received on introduction, but quickly lost its initial popularity.
The styling was out of the mainstream, and 'controversial' was the kindest word used to describe it.
The sharp recession in 1958 didn't help, either.
Have a 58 Ranger from my grandfather.
What a super car, I love it
Edsels are my cryptonite!
Why back in the 50's, did automakers build so few cars where now it is in the millions of virtually every make and model???Beautiful Edsel, I had a 58' Pacer two door hardtop I wish I had the money to restore it with!
congarts my friend nice top edsel!!A ford-mercury-edsel fan...
What part of our beautiful Commonwealth do you call home? I live in the northern Philly suburbs. I spied the '58 PA plate and the '73 PA inspection sticker.
Unique car, great condition, looks good and ugly at the same time
A very unfortunate design, but the dash is fabulous. Nevertheless this old lady is rare as they come and in amazing condition. ❤
I like it, shame they didn't make it with the 1959 restyle. That would have been an even more handsome car.
Thanks. Looks like your an FE guy. That's a nice truck you have.
@@bcabmac I sold it to a friend and fellow veteran when we had to move back in 2012. I miss that truck all the time. Your Edsel is a truly nice piece btw, I hope it didn't seem like I was downing it.
@@hendo337 Not at all. It's just car talk. It was actually my sons, it was just too nice and original to expose to road conditions because everything was like a time capsule in the car. What's your next ambition for a vehicle?? Another truck? Or some older American iron.
@@bcabmac I have 2004 GTO and a 2003 Silverado 2500. I am in the LS camp now. I haven't been made videos in years. I might one day if I ever have anything worth sharing.
my 15 yr old Daughter fav song.
From the horse collar grill to the boomarang taillights, this is sure an interesting car. I knew about the 4 door Bermuda, but not about a two door. Ford spent way too much money trying to cover every market price and body type. Usually, you see these cars with the push button drive where the horn usually went. Looks like it belongs in an Ed Wood movie. Would make a truly freightening meat wagon - hearse.
Neil Dickson I believe that it was either "Hemmings Classic Car" or "Special Interest Autos" that did an article about an Edsel Amble wagon that was also based on a '58 Edsel 2 door wagon. In those days,it was common to see ambulances based on production station wagons,either 2 or 4 door models;in some cases they had a modified,raised roof to accommodate people standing up inside of them. These could be based on a variety of different makes and models,but they were most often seen on Cadillac commercial chassis,especially those that were used by Fire Departments.Starting around 1972,ambulances began to be built on truck chassis.I have not seen a car based ambulance newer than about 1975...
Interesting grill treatment. Might have been given tail area same look for a jet tailpipe appearance.
12:31 The Atlantic station, later to become Arco, then back to Atlantic, was once a very fancy building, not like the boxey ones people are used to. The building was later converted to a AM/PM mini market. After the new Atantic merged with Sunoco, they tore down the building in favor of a modern A Plus.
While I like the styling of the Edsel, I've never understood why Ford would ever use Edsel Ford's name to grace the car.
Actually the Ford family didn't want the car line to be named after Edsel Ford. They just couldn't come up with a better name (and believe me they tried.)
Why did the Ford family not want the car to be named Edsel?
A Traitor? How's that?
Edsel Ford's widow told Ford President Earnest Breech that she"... couldn't bear to see [her late husband's] name spinning around on millions of hubcaps."
Looks like the cars swaying back n forth to lolly pop!
WOW what a nice wagon, I would love that thing to death and I was born the same year!
IT WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE TO KNOW MORE ABOUT THE PEOPLE WHO KEPT IT THAT LONG.
The credit partially goes to an involved mechanic who worked at the dealership in the 70s. that saw to it that the car was continously maintained as garage kept. Funny enough is that at the time they didn't like it to be seen when at the dealership service because of the negative perception and stigma of an Edsel might reflect badly on them. Ain't that a hoot.
A station wagon 2 doors,that’s rare.
My first car was a '56 Ford Customline Ranch Wagon (2 door).
They were once fairly common. The '55 - '57 Chevrolet Nomads have always had a 'following'.
I loved the car and I'm only 47.
Nice Edsel - but the song gets repetitive....
Yep, there were a lot more great songs from 57-58 that could have been used! :)
I fixed it on my end.After 30 seconds of that god awful song I turn the sound off.Loved the video!
wasnt there a Lowbowski in Animal house ?
3spd over drive. we had one .
Never heard the term "donkey start", it has always been "pony motor" in my last 25 years of operating
i prefer the 59 mercury colony park wagon that i learned to drive on.
The world we once knew....
I wish the world was still like this
the good thing about that one is it don't have the Don't touch push button shift!
Good thing it's a manual, the auto trans models were a nightmare....
what about the Edsel Farm back east. has about oh 2.000. lol. Now more rare is Candain ones. wich we have
Awesome! for sale trade ?
V-8 stick shift!
the car looks like it gonna sneeze!
Deserves a set. of whitewalls.
About one minute of Lolly Pop is plenty but after awhile you need to shit can it good Lord !
with a different front end, it would be a good looking car. this one is in amazing condition.
The 'front end' is what made it unique and gave it character.
Overdrive?
Is it for sale?
..oh, and what are "original miles"?...as opposed to miles that are not original?...or not real?...this has always puzzled me...anyways, very nice car! :)
Original miles= unaltered, untampered, not beyond it mechanical limits. The term is highly abused and misused nowadays.
And mileage when not documented and unproven should be stated as " TMU " = True mileage unknown. But by law most cars this age are listed as Exempt from Federal mileage disclosure. However, when you title it. In some states if you have documentation, they may allow you to report the actual miles on the new title. Some title clerks don't bother to ask and automatically Exempt it. But even if its Exempted on the new title hold on to the documentation and dont lose or destroy it. Things such as an original inspection sticker with date and mileage report on it. ( do not remove from car unless you dont care ) Dealership maintenance stickers with mileage and dates. Original sales order from dealer. Copy of original title or last title with mileage stated on it. Things like that. Keep it all if your doing a frame up restoration and want the cars provenance provable.
Where's the air intake/filter?
How did they think that this could compete with the Chevy Nomad?
There were several two door wagons around before and after the Nomad.
Great car, but that stupid song ruined it. had to have it on mute to be able to watch it entirely.
Hated voting this ne down, but the soundtrack was unbearable.
No "Tele-touch Drive" in this one.
That was a top tier option.
This is a stripped down wagon.
yellow engine paint ?
stock color in 1958
...a Station Wagon named after a herbicide!...or was the herbicide named after the Station Wagon?....:)
Also, it's not a "Ford Edsel Roundup." Edsel is a separate make like Lincoln and Mercury so leave the "Ford" out of it in the future. If this is your first Edsel I suggest you go to Wikipedia and read up on the car as well as Edsel Ford the man. I currently own a '60 Ranger which is my 6th Edsel and I know for a fact that people will ask you a lot of questions about it....
IT is ugly!
Just saying, don't bite my head off!😂
Good thing gas prices weren't what they are now, this is a gas guzzler, now!!!
The dashboard and steering wheel is beautiful!!! ALL THAT CHROME, BEAUTIFUL!!!
on a ford ?
At what museum is this car displayed?
Obviously Ford's advertising went way past honest, "new and different car in every respect", total lie. "flowing graceful lines sculptured into the sheet metal".. another total lie and all it took was one look to know that it was all hype and empty lies. The cars were built in the same line as the standard Ford and the assembly workers were upset about it because the cars were not the same. In many ways they were, but in enough ways not- and the employees wanted more pay to go through the extra hassle and time to build it, it was more work- and they often deliberately did shoddy work assembling many of these cars. Edsel was my very first car and I have a special affection for them but you have to admit, this car was a LOSER and all it did was disappoint- the consumer, the assembly workers, the investors, the dealers (some of whom committed suicide) and the Ford Motor Company. McNamera came in to kill it. Ford just tried way too hard on the Edsel. They said it was the wrong car at the wrong time. I think it was just the wrong car. I'd love to have another one , and this car is definitely a rare well preserved gem!
NO - i Don't agree ... it was the Fickle American Public that are a bunch of LOSERS _ _ _
in my 2¢ opinion
Gotta say .. I think it was that ugly "horse collar" grill that made it look unattractive to car buyers. Apart from that it was fine.
Lollypoop
Why would anyone would buy a two door station wagon of any brand? The whole idea of a station wagon is to haul bigger loads and more people easier than a sedan.. Only having two doors totally defeats the purpose that the vehicle was designed for.
One of the reasons why people bought two door wagons - and sometimes other two door cars - was because children could not accidentally open the doors,and possibly fall out of the car while moving.Keep in mind that cars didn't yet have seat belts at that time,and even when seat belts came out a few years later,most people still didn't use them.IIRC,there were no child safety seats at that time either.At least they couldn't fall out of a two door vehicle....
@@frankgiaquinto1571 Good post. I almost fell out of my dad's 4 door 56 Chevy. He reached back while he was driving and pulled me in.
Ugly I would rather have a Nomad
gaudy, but in a sort of hideous way.