The FGC Isn't Happy About The New BLEACH Fighting Game..

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  • Recently, a new Bleach fighting game was announced and it appears to be an arena fighter. The response from the FGC wasn't the most positive. Today we explore a couple of reasons why.
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  • @adamlannerd1408
    @adamlannerd1408 21 день тому +173

    These are not fighting games. Not a FGC issue.

    • @subzerokid100
      @subzerokid100 21 день тому +83

      I never understood this statement when these anime games are literally advertised and meant to be a fighting game. When you see these games in stores they are categorized as fighting games. Everytime soomeone says this they can never give a clear reason why its always something vague so my assumption is because it doesn't fit your image of a fighting game therefore it isn't one. What exactly qualifies as a fighting game anyways?

    • @Digital.midori
      @Digital.midori 21 день тому +194

      The FGC issue is wanting every game to be a traditional 2D fighting game

    • @toobad111
      @toobad111 21 день тому +40

      ​@@Digital.midori spot on

    • @sonicallstarify
      @sonicallstarify 21 день тому

      More accurately not traditional fighting game ​@@subzerokid100

    • @LOKIMAN07
      @LOKIMAN07 21 день тому +27

      Exactly. These games don’t even exist to me. It’s for anime fans

  • @toptaco890
    @toptaco890 21 день тому +145

    When did the FGC ever care about arena fighters? You barely see them at major tournaments. You might see some at your local tournaments in your city, but that's just from my experience.

    • @desgyulabalogh3429
      @desgyulabalogh3429 21 день тому +34

      theres a fuckton of weebs in the FGC (myself included) and we want a good anime fighting game. for like 15 years we only had FighterZ, and banda namco keeps cucking us with these shit cashgrabs.

    • @toptaco890
      @toptaco890 21 день тому +10

      ​@desgyulabalogh3429 I agree with you. I have a couple of arena fighters myself I just never knew that the fgc cared for them because those games are marketed towards casual gamers like myself and others.

    • @desgyulabalogh3429
      @desgyulabalogh3429 21 день тому +5

      @@toptaco890 I have OP burning blood and played the naruto ninja storm games back in the day and they are always in a sad state cuz they balance it based on the anime and theres 0 depth to it. I fondly remember using Gai sensei to make my firends cringe themselves to death over him being OP AS FUCK but would not touch it with a 10 foot pole competitively, just as i dropped tekken until 1.0.5 dropped and the balance was almost barely fixed.

    • @mee091000
      @mee091000 21 день тому

      ​@@desgyulabalogh3429 It's because they are cheap and easy enough to continuously pump out. These guys aren't trying to make long term fighting games. They are just trying to make quick cashgrabs and remind people that their anime/manga merchandise still exists.

    • @pizzacat1003
      @pizzacat1003 20 днів тому +6

      Gundam Versus...

  • @Kyonvtuber
    @Kyonvtuber 21 день тому +57

    Bleach is my favorite on the big 3. Im just happy to even get a bleach game in this day and age. I really want it just to be fun. I'm not expecting it to surpass sparking zero but I do hope they succeed with the game and not fail like jjk did.

    • @alexandermccalla5098
      @alexandermccalla5098 16 днів тому

      Same. Been waiting ages for bleach to get some respect in more than just a limited release psp game.
      What were the big three again? It’s been so long. Was it Naruto, Bleach, and OP? I kinda recall but Bleach ended so long ago and I can still recall reading the first My Hero chapter and even that’s now ending.

    • @Honest_Mids_Masher
      @Honest_Mids_Masher 15 днів тому

      ​@@alexandermccalla5098You're right about the big 3 the Bleach Manga is planned to recontinue with the Hell Arc but the anime is going to Cour 3 of the Thousand Year Blood War Arc.

    • @alexandermccalla5098
      @alexandermccalla5098 15 днів тому

      @@Honest_Mids_Masher we can only dream of the hell arc. Was teased years ago and Kubo is constantly in interviews explaining why he doesn’t want to give backstory to his villains. Gonna be hard to write when your characters have no motivation.

    • @Honest_Mids_Masher
      @Honest_Mids_Masher 15 днів тому +1

      @@alexandermccalla5098 You're able to give motivations to characters without having a backstory. Aizen's motivation is to replace the Soul King as he is disgusted by the fact that he is ruled over by a corpse and that he wants to be the one who stands above all else. Kubo said he doesn't give villains backstory's so you don't ever sympathize with them (ngl though you can still give them a backstory while still having them be impossible to sympathize with)

  • @DreBagsGaming
    @DreBagsGaming 21 день тому +44

    It's not even that it's not a 2d, it's because these games don't be QUALITY, put more money into them, and don't be bull headed about online features ui, and mechanics AND NETCODE!!!!!

  • @s3studios597
    @s3studios597 21 день тому +42

    Kill La Kill If is by far the best arena fighter in terms of feeling like an actual competent fighting game, but it was unfortunately dead before it even released. I also think One's Justice is pretty solid, but there are things that annoy me about it. Overall, I like the IDEA of arena fighters and feel they have a lot of untapped potential; it's just that most of them are admittedly bad and shallow.
    As far as Clorox, I'm cool with it and in a way I'm glad it's an arena fighter because all the whining about arena fighters over the last 6 years has gotten beyond insufferable. Even moreso when the same people complaining just want every single thing to just be a fighterz clone or another generic open world game.

    • @CyrusIsnt
      @CyrusIsnt 21 день тому +11

      Pokken

    • @sanetay
      @sanetay 21 день тому +4

      I feel like the perfect arena fighter should have like some of the combat elements from kill LA kill and like the movement in the dbz tenkaichi games and it'd be damn near perfect on that alone but the developers making these games seem to not care, also thought I was the only person in the world who liked ones justice that game had potential

    • @SolidSnake240
      @SolidSnake240 20 днів тому +3

      You act like people are "whining" for no reason. You even acknowledge that most of them are bad. Clearly there's a reason for "whining". We want them to make better games.

    • @NetBattler
      @NetBattler 20 днів тому +1

      I can say the same about arena fighters too because this genre is too oversaturated and most of them are straight up garbage.

    • @championredd
      @championredd 20 днів тому +2

      Fax the kill la kill game has sauce

  • @Freshman_FGC
    @Freshman_FGC 21 день тому +19

    If it's anything like Heat The Soul series, we should be in good hands. I remember enjoying Heat The Soul 4 back in the day

    • @stallinex9646
      @stallinex9646 18 днів тому

      4 was when it started getting good. If ever you’re curious to return to the HTS games, I highly recommend checking out HTS7

    • @Nurix09
      @Nurix09 14 днів тому

      Or a better Soul Ressurection.

  • @basti.9022
    @basti.9022 21 день тому +40

    The companies that handle these games have a formula that works for the casuals. They will eat these games without complaints. The FGC is literally 0.1% of their Market. They don't care.

    • @mielkavra
      @mielkavra 16 днів тому +1

      Yeah, I understand you. I have a question though, who will stay though? Who will I play against after these years?

    • @wakeupsweep8278
      @wakeupsweep8278 15 днів тому +1

      ​@mielkavra. no one. Everyone is always so hype for anime games, but they never last a year.

  • @VongolaXanxus
    @VongolaXanxus 21 день тому +18

    I'd prefer a 2d bleach fighter over 3d but im hyped. I simply hope for a decent combo system, online, and a lack of mechanics that let you escape combos without the use of resources like Jump Force.
    Also Jump's servers are still online, but it's just the ranked mode that's gone now

  • @Urbanboy732
    @Urbanboy732 21 день тому +49

    I promise. Shutting your brain off makes you enjoy games
    that you would have never considered playing.

    • @vandagylon2885
      @vandagylon2885 20 днів тому +8

      If you're just gonna shut your brain off you might as well be living in a vacuum brody.

    • @Impalingthorn
      @Impalingthorn 20 днів тому +2

      By that logic I could play with a rock and have fun.

    • @brucejohnson5914
      @brucejohnson5914 20 днів тому +8

      ​@Impalingthorn I believe that's the point, be like a kid and a rock could bring you lots of fun. Everyone is always judging this and that instead of enjoying the moment.

    • @Urbanboy732
      @Urbanboy732 20 днів тому +6

      @@brucejohnson5914 thank you lol

    • @brucejohnson5914
      @brucejohnson5914 20 днів тому +3

      @@Urbanboy732 you’re welcome, we all forget at times, lol.

  • @jjba3553
    @jjba3553 21 день тому +10

    First off, Bleach being back in any capacity is hype for me. Secondly, Idk if this is a hot take or not but if there was any franchise that should play like the budokai games it would be bleach. I always found it weird that they zip around insanely fast basically fly and fight airborne and yet these games tend to have you grounded and relatively slow. It’s too early to know if this game is gonna be good or not, I really hope it is tho

  • @tnuhenaj3752
    @tnuhenaj3752 20 днів тому +5

    Isn’t heat the soul a 3d fighting game? Like tekken and soulcalibur? It’s not halfway between a fighting game and an arena fighter it’s just a fighting game.

    • @ChrisMS0815
      @ChrisMS0815 20 днів тому +1

      Yeah lol, it was more of a 3D Fighter like Tekken, Soul Calibur, Dead or Alive and Virtua Fighter. "Halfway 2D fighter and halfway arena fighter" is a strange description.

  • @SegaKidJay
    @SegaKidJay 21 день тому +8

    People forget about the more competitive arena fighters like Virtual On and the Gundam Extreme VS series. Arena fighters can be just as deep as 2d or 3d fighters it's just about how well it's made. We live in a better time now, but there was a time 2d fighters were being pumped out and were trash same with 3d fighters hopefully arena fighters can stay consistently good.

    • @RealMikeHollow
      @RealMikeHollow  20 днів тому +5

      I recently came across the Gundam arena fighters while I was in Japan. Those games are awesome and totally dominate the arcades.

    • @inkchariot6147
      @inkchariot6147 19 днів тому +1

      Finally, someone mentions Gundam Versus. Those games will always be more technical than anything the FGC has.

  • @rodrose8001
    @rodrose8001 21 день тому +6

    I was always open to the idea of anime area fighters in the fgc I was just waiting for them to get there shit together

  • @OtaniNoAsagi
    @OtaniNoAsagi 20 днів тому +3

    One issue that the FGC needs to get over is that not every fighting game will be 2D like Street Fighter 6 or 3D like Tekken, Soul Calibur, or DoA. Sparking Zero is for sure a fighting game. To say it's not is just dumb.
    Now it's one thing to be against 1 button combo BS, It'd be cool if the Storm series had combos like Tekken or whatever, so that I agree on. But to say a game like Sparking Zero, Budokai, or Storm aren't fighting games is stupid. You literally are FIGHTING. They're literally called Arena FIGHTERS. Like the one thing Storm Connections did right was actually allowing combos and adding move scaling, etc. It's a start.

  • @dark__angel__9150
    @dark__angel__9150 21 день тому +43

    It's a miracle that we are even getting a new Bleach game so no bitching is allowed imo😂 but seriously let's wait for more info about the game before passing judgement ✌️

    • @Shade84
      @Shade84 21 день тому +4

      BS. I'd rather get something worthwhile or not at all. Let's see you keep that same energy when it's reduced to a pachinko game.

    • @dark__angel__9150
      @dark__angel__9150 21 день тому +12

      @@Shade84 true to be told I don't give a shit about getting a bleach game or not but the anime/bleach community sure does so what FGC want is irrelevant , also do you even know what a pachinko is??

    • @dark__angel__9150
      @dark__angel__9150 21 день тому +8

      @@Shade84 also I said "let's wait for more info about the game before passing judgement"

    • @Shade84
      @Shade84 21 день тому +4

      @@dark__angel__9150 I used that example because King of Fighters was reduced to a pachinko game back in 2006 when fans hadn't seen a new release for the title in a long time. My point is just getting a new game for your favorite series isn't enough, and with the track record arena fighters have I think the disappointment is completely valid. The moment I realized that's what it was I lost almost all interest.

    • @PureDivineGem
      @PureDivineGem 20 днів тому

      ​@@Shade84I definitely agree with you, on the track record of these anime fighting games. some definitely, haven't been all that good. ( Jujutsu kaisen, storm connections, the demon slayer game, which I had fun with. Although, it didn't do anything new in my opinion.) that's why, I rarely get hyped. because every time it happens, it usually doesn't end up being the one. which is why we need criticism. ( like different opinions, without getting bashed for them). But you know nowadays, the fanboys will attack you. for not being on, the hype bandwagon which is dumb. we are just asking, for some innovation. yet there's so very little of any, in some of these games. I love bleach don't get me wrong. I just don't trust bandai, after what happened with jump force. that taught me a lesson. To never again, buy these games out of hype nor nostalgia.

  • @SUREILLBYTE
    @SUREILLBYTE 20 днів тому +4

    The FGC would take arena fighters seriously if they took themselves seriously.

    • @imarock.7662
      @imarock.7662 20 днів тому +2

      They do??
      Play Gundam EXVS, Budokai Tenkaichi, Storm 4, and Kill La Kill If.
      Also, this comment is ironic considering the fgc LOVES MVC which is one of the most broken kusoges out there.

    • @RealMikeHollow
      @RealMikeHollow  20 днів тому +1

      Not even giving a game a chance because of previous games of a similar style is a bit of a L in my opinion. We all love Bleach, let's at least wait to see what happens.

    • @wakeupsweep8278
      @wakeupsweep8278 15 днів тому

      Can you blame them. There were only like four good ones I can name off the top of my head.(Excluding DBZ)

    • @azurechief3151
      @azurechief3151 5 днів тому

      After core values no one should take them seriously

  • @senatheEND
    @senatheEND 21 день тому +10

    the best arena fighting game of all time is dissdia 012 just wish it would get remastered and released on current hardware

    • @nerooyeye2196
      @nerooyeye2196 20 днів тому +1

      Dissidia 012 duodecim to be exact. Game was incredible, and I still even play it sometimes

    • @senatheEND
      @senatheEND 20 днів тому

      @@nerooyeye2196 012 is duedecim there isnt another named 012

    • @nerooyeye2196
      @nerooyeye2196 20 днів тому

      @senatheEND ohh yeah, that was a mistake. I thought you were talking about the first game

    • @adblockonly4548
      @adblockonly4548 19 днів тому +1

      I played the absolute sht out of that game when I was younger, so disappointed the remake wasn't anything like it

    • @Honest_Mids_Masher
      @Honest_Mids_Masher 15 днів тому

      We need another one and also with a story mode cause I wanna see my boy Firion again

  • @thesilentsociety3252
    @thesilentsociety3252 20 днів тому +2

    FGC assumes every anime fighting game that releases need to be either FighterZ or Guilty Gear in terms of gameplay. I’ve seen a bit of this with Sparking Zero when Namco said the game is going to be realistically unbalanced meanwhile, FGC still praise some of the most unbalanced shit in classic fighting games cuz nostalgia.

  • @azurechief3151
    @azurechief3151 5 днів тому +1

    After the core value incident I don’t want the FGC anywhere close to my games.

  • @EA-bv8zk
    @EA-bv8zk 21 день тому +2

    Hey Mike, whats the name of the music in the background this video

  • @dragonz9688
    @dragonz9688 20 днів тому +2

    The Fgc complaining of course. Ain’t a problem, but it’s a new bleach game, like damn let the game breathe before it even comes out .

  • @KingSlayerGoose
    @KingSlayerGoose 20 днів тому +7

    Im glad someone's putting respect on the ninja storm games cause they're actually insanely deep. The depth comes from understanding the lore of the characters. Might guy, for example, gains a "secret" air dash cancel mechanic in 8 gates that gives him looney toons level mobility and infinite combo potential, he also gets tag fighter air combos/jump cancels.

    • @RealMikeHollow
      @RealMikeHollow  20 днів тому +4

      Might Guy after awakening is my worst nightmare ☠️☠️

    • @Oblivion_Stark-99
      @Oblivion_Stark-99 20 днів тому

      Eight gates guy is just a demon lmao

    • @TheTruthAllDay256
      @TheTruthAllDay256 20 днів тому +1

      I'm in the minority of actually liking Connections. Outside of the issues with lobbies I think Connections combat system is one of the most fun.

  • @PhanFanMan
    @PhanFanMan 21 день тому +38

    The real concern should be if this game will give us fans the jiggles. And I mean ALL the jiggles, looking at Orihime, Rangiku, Yoruichi and my beloved Kukaku, who was one my anime crushes at the time.

    • @RealMikeHollow
      @RealMikeHollow  20 днів тому +12

      😂😂 I have no doubt Japan will deliver for you on that front, sir ☝🏾

    • @schmutlerfgc
      @schmutlerfgc 20 днів тому +8

      The Dev team behind this made Senran Kagura. Which is THE jiggle physics game

    • @Asphixy
      @Asphixy 20 днів тому +7

      Bro is asking the real questions 👏🏻

    • @mikederdrache3305
      @mikederdrache3305 20 днів тому +4

      @@schmutlerfgc is it bad that I got a platinum trophy on a senran kagura game? Cause I’m ngl I’m contemplating on getting another one for a platinum

    • @lunar-exe433
      @lunar-exe433 20 днів тому +2

      The company making bleach is Tamsoft. They're known for making Kusoge game (shit games) for ppl in the know. I enjoy the Onechanbara series (the one that made them popular) as well as the Senran Kagura games. That is the only reason why I have some faith in the game gameplay wise.

  • @StudioBadGuy
    @StudioBadGuy 21 день тому +12

    I wish a dev would copy the pokken formula. People slept on that game hard.

    • @ohpeep3723
      @ohpeep3723 20 днів тому +3

      Yeah the game is dope af

    • @lagtus3510
      @lagtus3510 17 днів тому

      same with for honor

    • @azure8696
      @azure8696 15 днів тому

      OH most definitely, that game is criminally underrated.

  • @lightspaceman5064
    @lightspaceman5064 21 день тому +2

    Bandai Namco (a bad company I hate) has said that they want to focus on quality and canceled a bunch of games. But not this one. That at least is a sign they took some time with this game. Big companies love making apology games when their reputation gets bad enough. Capcom had to make like 10 in a row. Sparking Zero is defiantly one of those so maybe Rebirth of Souls is too.

  • @stallinex9646
    @stallinex9646 18 днів тому

    Pleasant surprise seeing one of my HTS7 clips in here, great video and thanks for the credit! 🔥

    • @RealMikeHollow
      @RealMikeHollow  18 днів тому

      Thank you for your cool content and thanks for watching the vid! 🙏🏾☝🏾

  • @Mokujinko
    @Mokujinko 20 днів тому +2

    I'm not familiar with Bleach but the powerscaling system reminds me of Capcom vs SNK back in the day and that slapped. You could have 4 Dans, Sakuras, Benimarus etc or a single Akuma or Rugal, and just mix and match to your preference. I'd be well up for that as a concept. Tactical choices, personal preferences and respect to lore in one. It'd be sick to see something like that in a Tekken Tag 3.

  • @coffeebean_tamer
    @coffeebean_tamer 19 днів тому

    Hi Mike, i may be mitsaken but werent JoJo Chatacters in J-Stars for the PSP Vita?

  • @TheMicOnFireCuz
    @TheMicOnFireCuz 18 днів тому +2

    who tf cares about the Sweat-Game community?

  • @ViewtifulJae
    @ViewtifulJae 20 днів тому +3

    Imma be real. Idc if they want a sweat fest over balanced game; fuck that . I want an anime fighter where characters are as canonically powerful or weak as they are in the show and solid polished gameplay with fun being the overall goal. I do not want some game where the weakest character in the show is as strong as they be strongest for the sake of tournaments . Fuck that. Anime fans deserve good games that are properly filled with fan service . Please don’t chase esports

    • @shiroufan5401
      @shiroufan5401 18 днів тому +1

      It’s not about chasing esports it’s about the game actually being well designed and not a braindead cash grab that people will play for like a few hours and then get bored of. I would rather have a game with a smaller cast of actually interesting to play characters that are well balanced than a game with 70 characters that all play basically the same and have nothing going for them other than fanservice and flashy ultimates. Bleach deserves an actual good game.

  • @shadowofthenorthstar989
    @shadowofthenorthstar989 20 днів тому +2

    i wanted a DBFZ type of game for Bleach i'll try this one tho it might be good

  • @Kenrick23
    @Kenrick23 21 день тому +4

    If this was Spike chunsoft developing it, you'd have a guaranteed failed game. They did The OPM arena fighting game.
    Earlier? Jump Force 2019.
    These Devs did Melty blood, and I've heard it was decent and had an okay FGC moment (I think?).
    Let's give these developers a chance to show us what they can do with it. Who knows, maybe they can revolutionize it and make it good. But they're usually hard to balance or to be... Good.

    • @roxas327
      @roxas327 20 днів тому +1

      They didnt do melty blood, they only published it to pc, French Bread made melty.The only game we can really tell what the game could be like is off senran kagura cause thats the closest game they've done

    • @Kenrick23
      @Kenrick23 20 днів тому

      @@roxas327 ah My mistake. I checked on steam and actually thought they made it. Should refine my search. Thanks for heads up.

    • @Kenrick23
      @Kenrick23 20 днів тому +1

      Ah just checked. Thanks for letting me know. My mistake.

    • @inkchariot6147
      @inkchariot6147 19 днів тому

      Jump Force didn't fail, idiot. How much money do you think they had to spend in order to keep the licenses for the characters they use? That's why crossover games don't last more than 3 years.

  • @TevinAllen-og1xl
    @TevinAllen-og1xl 14 днів тому +1

    Not every fighting game has to be a pro fighter because those costs a lot to make so you just gotta wait until they get the money to make fgc games

  • @chronic_johnson_a.r.a.b
    @chronic_johnson_a.r.a.b 18 днів тому

    Back when Naruto Storm 2 first came out, it was long before we were swamped with these type of games and I remember thinking, at the time, that I'd love a Bleach game in that style that covers the story up until the defeat of Aizen. When that PS3 game came out and it was a Dynasty Warriors clone, I remember being disappointed. I'm far less of an anime fan now than I used to be, but playing this game will really take me back to simpler times. I'm looking forward to it, and I hope they don't screw it up.

  • @redgrave4492
    @redgrave4492 20 днів тому +21

    Fighterz is good, but not every anime needs a game that follows that template. If that were the case, people would just end up complaining about saturation in that genre like they do with arena fighters.

    • @NetBattler
      @NetBattler 20 днів тому +4

      Agreed

    • @zeroskaterz92
      @zeroskaterz92 20 днів тому +3

      The last thing I want is another ArcSys games. They all look the same with dumbed down mechanics.

    • @redgrave4492
      @redgrave4492 20 днів тому +3

      @@zeroskaterz92 Hard disagree. Fighterz has autocombos and almost only quarter circle inputs, but the number of things you can do that's also high execution is plenty. Their only games I'm aware of that got dumbed down heavily were Strive and Cross Tag.

    • @zeroskaterz92
      @zeroskaterz92 20 днів тому +1

      @@redgrave4492 Bruh literally all characters plays the same. All characters have the exact same input. Number of things you can do, lol, what a joke.
      In comparison to Street Figher, Tekken, King of Fighters, even Capcom vs SNK or Marvel vs Capcom, ArcSys games are dumbed down when it comes to learning curve. It's pretty much an inferior rip off of MvC.

    • @redgrave4492
      @redgrave4492 19 днів тому +3

      @@zeroskaterz92 Clearly you've never played fighterz or even watched any high level gameplay. At the end of the day I don't work for Arcsys, so whether you like their games or not is whatever, but at least have honest critique or sound like you know how the game plays. Like imagine criticising multiple characters for sharing inputs as if other fighting games like Street Fighter or Tekken don't do the same.

  • @Kalyx
    @Kalyx 20 днів тому

    What is the end music on these videos? Makes me remember a promise I made to a childhood friend to break our sparring tie after he went off to military cadet school but now the country is in civil war and I'm in the resistance and we may have to break our tie... to the death. Or whatever, but seriously what's the song?

    • @RealMikeHollow
      @RealMikeHollow  20 днів тому +1

      Its howling Butterfly from Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm ☝🏾

  • @StrawHatCentral
    @StrawHatCentral 19 днів тому

    Before getting into mechanics the games need betas for good netcode or rollback. Semantically you can call it a fighting game because the characters fight but does that matter if the devs don’t actually about your ability to fight people.

  • @shiniediamondz7905
    @shiniediamondz7905 12 днів тому

    Sparking zero did one thing wrong: locking splitscreen behind one stage only. The offical excuse was bc of aesthetics "can't carry the same aesthetics in split screen"

  • @King_Usman92
    @King_Usman92 21 день тому

    So I've been wanting to start bleach but wanna wait till tybw is finished any ideas how long it will take?

    • @RealMikeHollow
      @RealMikeHollow  20 днів тому

      I believe the final part is coming out soon so I'd get started now cos you have a ton of material to get through.

    • @King_Usman92
      @King_Usman92 20 днів тому

      @@RealMikeHollow 👍

  • @CrashdummyX
    @CrashdummyX 20 днів тому +1

    I feel that arena fighters actually have a higher potential to 2D or 2.5D fighting games, but to actually nail it down seems to be a struggle for most developers. Budokai Tenkaichi 3 is still one of my favorite fighting games to this day. So, I don't instantly think of arena fighters in a negative light, but I do understand that more often then not that they are subpar cash grabs. This art style and fidelity of the game already look amazing so I'm hoping that this is just a sneak peak at what is to come. Also it appears that Ichigo parries Renji's attack, which if that's the case could speak to some deeper mechanics.

  • @flamezgamer3218
    @flamezgamer3218 20 днів тому +2

    Didn't think it can get worse than that jjk game but welp

  • @jngo172
    @jngo172 21 день тому +42

    These are the same individuals who are hyped for Sparking Zero. How come there’s so much hype and hope for Dragon Ball Sparking Zero, but not for Rebirth of Souls?

    • @MrShlangsterLifts
      @MrShlangsterLifts 21 день тому +30

      Probably because there is a lot of trust with dragon ball cause db arenas have yet to rlly let down their community, that's why storm connections sold way more copies than it should have because people trusted the storm series until it let them down

    • @CyrusIsnt
      @CyrusIsnt 21 день тому +10

      Nostalga 😂😂 thats all

    • @og_mante5138
      @og_mante5138 21 день тому +9

      Do you know how big the DBZ fanbase is? 😂

    • @sanetay
      @sanetay 21 день тому +7

      Because we haven't seen enough gameplay for rebirth of souls it's easier for them to hate when ignorant

    • @sanetay
      @sanetay 21 день тому +8

      ​@@CyrusIsntas someone who's actively been playing tenkachi 3 I promise you it's not nostalgia the combat system and movement in that game are by far the best in any arena fighter

  • @petalsxox
    @petalsxox 16 днів тому

    i’m hyped for it, it’s been forever since a bleach game. i’ll see how it is and probably get if it’s good. same with sparkling zero. gotta give games a chance. haven’t played an arena fighter since jump force but they can be fun if done right.

  • @offthesplat5863
    @offthesplat5863 20 днів тому +2

    Imma be real I hate fighting games cuz it’s just constant skill gaps online those no life individual are enjoying cuz they can play this for more than 80 hours while those who have things to do and like playing more than one game is struggling cuz all it is hard work, don’t get me wrong sometimes fighting games are hype and fun to watch but it’s less enjoyable from a casual point of view

    • @Urbanboy732
      @Urbanboy732 20 днів тому +2

      I feel that.
      Used to have time hitting the lab in fighters, but ever since I got 2 jobs, I've had less time = less growth

  • @AngelDust-jp2qt
    @AngelDust-jp2qt 13 днів тому

    I hope they'll include multiple versions of characters with more different movesets like the storm games

  • @GodOfOrphans
    @GodOfOrphans 20 днів тому

    I find that a component of the hate arena fighters get is that they tend to not be as hyperbalanced as most other fighting games especially now, but this hyperemphasis on balance pretty frequently removes a lot of really fun maneuvers preempts the idea of intentionally overpowered boss characters or underpowered joke characters altogether, and never actually stops the issue of the meta stagnating as players just find the most overpowered characters and strategies and repeat ad naseum eschewing balance in favour of say adaptational loyalty or just fun factor is essentially a lateral move as far as how repetitive and stale metas go. Plus matchmaking filters are a thing and have been for awhile even alternate versions of characters where one is the competitive balanced version and the other is a boss variant have also existed for ages so there is a way to have one's cake and eat it too but it just never gets implemented anymore, maybe due to development costs but still it bites.

  • @JohnSmith-yn9ju
    @JohnSmith-yn9ju 20 днів тому +1

    You can still play jumpforce online. It’s the ranked match that is shut down. Friendly and quick matches still work and people are still playing lol

  • @silvastone1691
    @silvastone1691 18 днів тому

    I'll wait and see what they do and when it's out I'll make my decision.
    But from the trailer it does look like it might be an arena fighter. However it could still be a good arena fighter.

  • @jurisdojo23
    @jurisdojo23 20 днів тому +1

    That’s crazy because it’s not made for the fgc it’s made for the fans of course I’d love a 2d fg tho

  • @yohobin
    @yohobin 18 днів тому +1

    Anime fighters are never meant to be FGC ready games, why can you people not comprehend this lol. One of the few exceptions is Fighterz but that is made with FGC in mind.
    If you want a FGC Bleach game, get up and develop one yourself, you guys.

  • @GBFGO-PLAYER
    @GBFGO-PLAYER 20 днів тому +1

    I don't understand, (anime) arena fighting games are technically fighting games (two characters, or groups of characters, fighting each other to deplete their other's health bar), just not in a traditional sense.
    That being said, a good amount of the stigma surrounding these games stem from them being understandably, catered to casuals and/or having its gameplay being usually designed in such a way in which the "meta" may not be enjoyable to play and or watch, especially for people in thr FGC/have experience with traditional fighting games. (Just watch Daz is Bambo's "A Deep Dive In Competitive Naruto Storm" video for reference).
    Funny enough, the (anime) FGC seems to have accepted the Gundam VS games and occasionally gets set up at majors here and there. (Honorable mention goes to the Kill la Kill game too, but the fact that Arc System Works was involved in some capacity, may have had a hand in that by virtue of the "halo effect" they have with the FGC, but deservedly so, thanks to their consistent track record with FGs).

  • @NarcoticDimension
    @NarcoticDimension 20 днів тому +1

    Man i loved burst limit...

  • @Fgkaii
    @Fgkaii 21 день тому +2

    Seen more people doom over this game in the fgc. Then seeing people in the fgc hype up the upcoming hunter game fighting game. Granted it doesn’t look that good visually but it’s by the people who did MVC3 and Tatsunoko vs Capcom. But anyway Im excited for bleach 🫡

  • @gardevoirtrainer4526
    @gardevoirtrainer4526 18 днів тому +1

    I don't play the UFC or WWE games, but even those can be considered fighting games. As long as you can punch each other in the face it's all good.

    • @RealMikeHollow
      @RealMikeHollow  18 днів тому +2

      Yeah, they're sport simulators and within that section of games, they're fighting games for sure.

  • @Wabiske8
    @Wabiske8 18 днів тому

    heat the soul and blade of fate were so good wish they would just expand on those or even make direct sequels

  • @VividVirid
    @VividVirid 18 днів тому

    I can’t wait to see people shocked at the trailers that reveal more gameplay or special moves. I feel like people aren’t really acknowledging the quality that this game has

  • @kilochampion787
    @kilochampion787 21 день тому +1

    To Sparking Zero & the Bleach game…
    You are on this council, but we do not grant you the rank of competitive fighter

  • @ezmezm276
    @ezmezm276 20 днів тому +2

    Couldnt care less about fgc, anime games are not as fun when there 2d and you dont even feel any uniqueness to the small amount of characters you get. If you want to brawl in 2d go play a 2d fighter. Arena fighters arent perfetct but atleast you can play them have fun and atleast feel like you're in the anime.

  • @ZzigZaG00NIN
    @ZzigZaG00NIN 16 днів тому

    I hope it ends up well
    I love Bleach and fighting games

  • @waterdog737
    @waterdog737 21 день тому

    Thanks for news
    As they say everything that shimmers ain't gold. It was 50/50 for the new bleach game to be a arena fighter or a legit fighting game. I do want to see more of the game to cast judgment on it. I want to know game mechanics, final roster count, costumes/customization, great single player content, and a solid practice mode

  • @happycat4838
    @happycat4838 18 днів тому +1

    If the FGC hates it, it will probably be great.

    • @azurechief3151
      @azurechief3151 5 днів тому

      Exactly fcg and esports are cancer to good games

  • @InvinciDon
    @InvinciDon 20 днів тому +1

    “These aren’t fighting games!” Injustice exists.

  • @riku528
    @riku528 21 день тому +1

    I personally have a really special connection to the Bleach series as a whole because it was a show I watched during a very dark period of my life and knowing that the first console game we are getting for it after 13 years is going to possibly be yet another Arena fighter disappoints. The reason being the history of Arena fighters are filled with lazy cash grabs that barely put any effort into making themselves appealing to people who really care about the source material and are used to really prey on your money. It happened to me with Jump Force and a lot of other series who instead of getting fleshed out genuine video games instead got the same rehashed arena fighter for the billionth time. It never feels like there is love put into an arena fighter and it instead just feels like a “here man damn!!” Type of deal. So as both a fan of the bleach series and an avid fighting game player I am really not too excited for how this game is going to pan out however I will still pay attention because I am a fan of bleach

  • @8minato
    @8minato 21 день тому +1

    Most people hated burst limit.

    • @RealMikeHollow
      @RealMikeHollow  20 днів тому

      Then most people must be destr- I mean I disagree 🗿

  • @joshima7
    @joshima7 17 днів тому

    As someone that loves bleach, is a fan of 2d fighters and its not a fan of arena fighters I always held the belief that if we ever get a brand new Bleach game it HAS to be an arena fighter. Because Bleach has been out of the console videogame market for a hell of awhile, so they need to get as many people behind this game as possible, and it turns out arena fighters are loved by the casuals(seriously is the reason why we got so many). So with that logic it makes sense why it should be one. But the more important part is if its good and will it sell, because if it does we are definitely getting more Bleach games in the future, and hopefully Ill get that 2d Bleach fighter that I desperately want

  • @uzakikena8294
    @uzakikena8294 18 днів тому

    What got me into bleach fighting game was the one they made for DS.

  • @djtoxicdhg
    @djtoxicdhg 20 днів тому

    This sounds like a neet concept i may check it out

  • @ArcanumDragon
    @ArcanumDragon 20 днів тому

    I remember when Burst Limit came out. It majorly put me off how BL only went up to the Cell saga. I already had DBZ fatigue at the time, from completing story modes of Budokai 1-3, Tenkaichi 1-3 AND Infinite World. Oh hell no did I want a repeat of a Burst Limit 1-3.
    Fatigue so hard I skipped the entire PS3/360 era of DBZ until Xenoverse for the PS4.

  • @MrTekhnical
    @MrTekhnical 19 днів тому +1

    I wish i was more like Soulcalibur. Just most crazy. Bamco just sitting on that Soulcalibur Engine. Not doing anything with it.
    Besides Sparking Zero the only other noteworthy arena fighters that you should definitely try is Virtual On, The Gundam Versus series and Kill la Kill IF.

    • @yokumob
      @yokumob 18 днів тому +1

      Kill la Kill If was so underrated, for a niche anime they made a hell of a good game, one of my favorites to play with friends

  • @wildsword6856
    @wildsword6856 20 днів тому +1

    Arena fighting games are real fighting games too I don't care what fgc say screw em.

    • @ChrisMS0815
      @ChrisMS0815 20 днів тому

      A type of fighting game yes but not the good kind.

  • @idkmehboi1972
    @idkmehboi1972 20 днів тому

    The bleach power system is very intricate. Everyone has strengths and weaknesses. Also, some of the powers can intermingle. All they have to do is understand the power system with super vision of course and you will have a very fun battle system

  • @ANDREVILAFRANCA
    @ANDREVILAFRANCA 20 днів тому +1

    Arena fighters are the "perfect" format for shonen battle manga series, the problem is the vast majority of them are horrible.
    But if they take good care of the game and the series like DBZ Budokai Tenkaichi 3 then we have an amazing game that can last for a long time.
    I hope BLEACH has that type of treatment with tons of combat mechanics and a realistic portrayal of what a BLEACH fight is.

  • @Babunki2
    @Babunki2 20 днів тому +1

    Why does everything need to be hyper competitive lol I’m so hype just to play through bleach and I’ll be even more hype if the gameplay is solid and fun.

    • @ChrisMS0815
      @ChrisMS0815 20 днів тому +1

      Because we want something to do after completing the story, the game being competitive adds replay value when we play online. If it's not good the online community will die off and there will be nobody to play against.

    • @Babunki2
      @Babunki2 20 днів тому

      @@ChrisMS0815 but that doesn’t need to be everything is my point.

  • @YellowFellow86
    @YellowFellow86 20 днів тому

    I agree with with you in the critique of arena fighters. Overall nowadays they haven't been for me for a while now. Jump force was a tragedy for me because I loved seeing Hokuto no Ken and Ryo Saeba in a fighting game but the game was gawful.
    I await your take on Sparking Zero before I potentially buy it
    The thing that often bothers me about these arena fighters are that due to being conditioned to them generally being bad or mediocre at best I am left wondering if it would have been better as an traditional 2d or 3d fighting game.
    A My Hero Academia game with Dragon Ball Fighterz graphics and gameplay would be AWESOME.
    A 3d Tekken inspired Kengan Ashura game could be great as well.
    How about a Jump vs game that played like either MvC2 or CvS2? That would blow people's minds.

  • @ShinobiEevee
    @ShinobiEevee 18 днів тому

    if bleach turns out like burst limit I will lose my mind I loved that game on the xbox 360 playing super sayian 2 gohan the beam clashes and everything it was perfect damn near

  • @angel2x813
    @angel2x813 15 днів тому

    Have you played asbr? It’s a great jojo game that’s has pretty technical mechanics and characters all the way up to part 8 I like it a lot but the scene is dead sadly

    • @RealMikeHollow
      @RealMikeHollow  15 днів тому +1

      I love it but the online is absolutely trash 🗿

    • @angel2x813
      @angel2x813 15 днів тому

      @@RealMikeHollow that’s why I stopped playing too , every game was 100 ping

  • @redgrave4492
    @redgrave4492 20 днів тому +1

    If you're into Jojos you can play All Star Battle R, I'm sure it's a better option than Jump Force

    • @RealMikeHollow
      @RealMikeHollow  20 днів тому +2

      It's unplayable online unfortunately and nobody wants to play offline 😂

    • @redgrave4492
      @redgrave4492 20 днів тому

      @@RealMikeHollow oh that sucks, I hope they start making rollback netcode a priority for other anime fighters too someday

  • @jumpboi2914
    @jumpboi2914 17 днів тому

    Arena fighters are one of my favorite genres so I'm pretty hype

  • @TheSoulGage
    @TheSoulGage 18 днів тому

    Personally, there are too many arena fighting games, but Bleach is one of those series that can benefit from it.

  • @auracore-live
    @auracore-live 20 днів тому

    Sparking Zero will hopefully change the anime game industry

  • @bcraig1709
    @bcraig1709 20 днів тому

    Let's just hope it's a good polished game that pleases fans of the series, it's a story fighter. Let's hope it gets support and does well, I haven't played Bleach since Soul Ressureccion🤞

  • @itachi65ful
    @itachi65ful 20 днів тому

    A Bleach blade battler 3rd would be amazing. I don't know the competitive side of things but it was a fun party game.

  • @mythic7321
    @mythic7321 15 днів тому

    As a person that likes fighting games,As long as every character doesn’t play the same & you actually have to press different buttons to do cool combos thats a win in my book (I liked Kill la kill if & Ones justice)

  • @LeDanc
    @LeDanc 21 день тому +2

    Liking or not, those games have mechanics, sure some don't like the jjk game, also this is the first bleach game in years if you don't like arena fighter f*ck off and move to the mobile games
    Arena fighters sell well liking or not

    • @Shade84
      @Shade84 21 день тому

      Well yeah....all games have mechanics. That's what makes it a game. Simply having mechanics doesn't make it a good game, or even one worth playing.

    • @LeDanc
      @LeDanc 21 день тому

      @Shade84 but we have nothing yet on the game. Besides the fact that it is an arena fighter , and everyone is already saying its bad that's the problem, most fgc elitist are like old school metalheads, can't accept other styles of the same genre

  • @quickplayhero8177
    @quickplayhero8177 20 днів тому

    Bleach is definitely one of my favourite Animes of all time, so I already have high hopes for the game. I always end up getting into the Arena fighters that no one plays with good reason I guess lmao But I hope that won't be the case with this game

  • @DaionCook
    @DaionCook 13 днів тому

    We're going to be waiting 2 years to not even get 50 characters that we want from the anime/manga

  • @bulletxwound3559
    @bulletxwound3559 21 день тому

    I would honestly prefer an action dmc styled game like dmc for bleach over a fighting game but at this point I'm just hoping it's good

  • @encelade.
    @encelade. 20 днів тому

    I think the main reason why they aren’t happy is because of the already lackluster reputation arena fighters have so it’s just easy to jump on this game and already get mad at it however while I think it isn’t a GOOD mindset I see why they say they because the only well made arena fighters are either the most popular ones or the most dead(online wise) ones

    • @encelade.
      @encelade. 20 днів тому

      It’s hard to express my full opinion on it in just a comment section so I am pretty vague about it

  • @minzy421
    @minzy421 21 день тому +1

    Fgc are never happy

  • @wakeupsweep8278
    @wakeupsweep8278 15 днів тому

    I think a 3d Bleach game like Soul Caliber would be hype. We will never get that sadly.

  • @imarock.7662
    @imarock.7662 20 днів тому

    I am sick and tired of the fgc not considering arena fighters as fighting games. Im happy more people are pushing back against this.
    I have no idea how you can look at arena fighters like Storm 4, Kill La Kill If, Sparking Zero/Budokai Tenkaichi, and ESPECIALLY Gundam EXVS, and say they aren't fighting games.
    Just because something isn't a "traditional" like Street Fighter or Tekken, doesn't mean its not a fighting game. Hell, why tf do you think they're referred to as Arena _Fighters?_

  • @CircePenfield
    @CircePenfield 6 днів тому

    I find it tragic that bleach's biggest criticism - that it could never escape the Soul Society arc - is proven so, so true by the marketing so far for this game: WE HAVE SEEN MORE OF THIS GAME'S HUD AND MECHANICS THAN SPARKING ZERO BUT NOT A SINGLE MENTION OF ANYTHING OUTSIDE OF THE SOUL SOCIETY ARC
    if the game doesn't ship with sternritters or tybw stuff at launch, it'll be such a pain in the ass, since that's the main reason I'd care. Not to mention the fact that there's basically no way they have the budget for a big enough roster to be worth the full price they inevitably charge

  • @KendallRoss-jr7ne
    @KendallRoss-jr7ne 15 днів тому

    I love the storm games I wish it was at EVO and CEO and Combo Breaker but maybe dragon ball zero and this bleach game will bring fourth a competitive scene at these major tournaments spots

  • @just_2swift
    @just_2swift 20 днів тому

    They should've went with the BlazBlue engine for both Bleach and Naruto
    For example Itachi drive would be his eyes and crows etc and his overdrive would be susanoo.
    For bleach imagine Ichigo with a hollow install his drive would be abilities plus songetsu (forgot how to spell it😂) and overdrive would be the characters bonkai.
    All this would be better than a arena fighter.

  • @MobDraws69
    @MobDraws69 20 днів тому

    My issue is how quickly they fall off. Outside of Naruto’s franchise of arena fighters and the DBBT games, other ones (to my knowledge) are often of lesser quality in terms of its systems and mechanical depth that end with the players leaving or the game being shut down.
    I really do want to get into arena fighters, but I’m worried that my money will be wasted on a product that either isn’t finished, or so boring that I’d drop it, and only hear of it again when the servers go down.

  • @lucasdevore5443
    @lucasdevore5443 20 днів тому

    Its sad how ppl just complain complain complain. Just be glad we are getting a new game at all.

  • @stainz_4208
    @stainz_4208 20 днів тому

    Dude! Burst Limit is arguably the most fun I had in a Dragonball game outside of DBFZ. And Burst Limit is one of these games that hardly anyone seems to know. And its such a goodie. If only more anime games played like that.

  • @ScientologyHunter2
    @ScientologyHunter2 21 день тому +1

    I´m not exactly a fan of arena fighters either but man the fgc is straight up embarrassing...it´s not even a competitive fighting game so why even bother trashing it?
    not to mention that we didn´t even get to see much gameplay either sp we don´t even know if it´s gonna be some one punchman or jjk game level trash or if it´s gonna be a fun game

    • @ChrisMS0815
      @ChrisMS0815 20 днів тому +1

      We don't know if it's competitive or not though, we havn't seen enough gameplay. I don't think the FGC is embarrassing either for wanting a traditional fighter, modern day arena fighters have shown us that they are just mindless button mashy cash grabs with no effort put into them. Now I'm not saying Bleach will be like that but you can't blame people when this genre is oversaturated with crap.

  • @DaionCook
    @DaionCook 13 днів тому

    I wish heat of the soul had a remake Cheaper to make plus it was a great cast

  • @beastorizeofsion
    @beastorizeofsion 20 днів тому

    Anime licensed games have been casual afternoon entertainment in Japan ever since Shonen Jump titles came out on the Famicom. People need to keep the expectations low, because wanting the PS2 fma titles to play like DMC or have a Bleach fighter as fluent as Soul Calibur is quite a high bar to reach.
    The only times when they had trials to give you an incentive; Elemental Gelade, and Bleach: Heat the Soul. Bleach GC probably does have combos if you tinker with it, but that was a Japan only title that remained in obscurity in front of the popularity Clash of Ninja received due to the first two getting localized. To this day, it doesn't have any combo videos.
    For the show itself, I love it and it's cool, but I am still watching through it. I didn't catch up yet.