My school were taught about patagonia in Welsh lessons and it became a joke when you asked "why are we learning Welsh if it's not spoken anywhere else" and someone would say "what about Argentina?"
Y Wladfa, relatively well known in Wales and unheard of anywhere else. Theres a Welsh film called Patagonia about Welsh-Argentinians visiting Wales and Welsh people visiting Patagonia
Well... I mean every modern flag is ugly as hell. I mean three stripes of random colour. A dot in the middle. Random stars which look all the same in every flag. Always the same colours, patterns and shapes. Even babies which have just been born can make better flags then our governments.
A few years ago I actually went on a school trip to Patagonia (from Wales) and visited the area where they speak Welsh. It was a really weird experience but so much fun and my favourite thing was definitely how the Welsh and Argentinian accents blended when they spoke Welsh. Many of the places in the area are actually named oddly because they are the Spanish way of saying Welsh words.
@@kobs7863 We stayed in Trelew and visited Gaiman, Dolavon and Puerto Madryn. We went to other places too but I can't remember where exactly. (We also stayed in Buenos Aires for a few days on the way back)
@@kugul1683 I've only been there once, it is _very_ Welsh. People speak Spanish, but they might only use it to speak with argentine tourists. There's another Welsh town in the province named Trevelin which is similar
@@kugul1683 i'm from the area, i would say chubut itself is a little different from the rest of argentina, we have the same accent and all that stuff but we are mostly german and welsh descendents that keeps that cultures and the languages alive
29% of the Welsh population speak Welsh which is over 844,000 people and growing, and there is approximately 1-5,000 Welsh speakers in Argentina so, no…
@@mercurymorning1 I know. Some people think they are so smart and disrespect countries like Scotland and wales. I’m English and even I can respect them.
Wassie here (wow that sounds dumb) and yeah your right lol. This time has really emphasized our differences. Especially with every state govt making their own policies. I mean one state closing their borders to the rest of the country and the world. That is the epitome of separation. Consuming media (podcasts or tv in my case) made by Australians over east has never felt less relatable.
I live there in Patagonia, you miss that lady Diana came to visit here due this colony. Also there's still the cup that she drank from at the tea house she came (little spilled for a princess lol). Ask me anything.
i have fond memories of watching your minecraft videos in around (if i remember correctly) 2013-2015 (where i would've been 8-10 years old) and even though i'm not very interested in minecraft anymore i recently found out about your geography videos and since i just happen to be more interested in geography these days i still manage to find enjoyment in your videos after all these years! greetings from australia!!!
However, toycat says the reason why it’s Celtic is because it wasn’t conquered by muslims but that is inaccurate, Asturias survived Muslim Conquest, not Galicia
As an Argentinian myself, I didn't know, but as a considerable porcentage of our population are immigrants or their descendance, I don't find it strange at all. In fact, in most portuary cities (like mine) there are some red English mail boxes too
Not really, everybody in Argentina knows, just the same as the United states, almost all the population here are descendants of Europeans, and people like to keep their roots so many people have family over seas mainly in Italy but still we have German communities Spanish communities and so on. The thing with the Welsh people (kind of the same happened with the danish) is that they were so far away in the Patagonia for so long that they never had to actually learn Spanish in the past (because at the end of the 19 century the school system started and Spanish was the language in school and only adults were left speaking they original European languages), so yes, they are argentines and of course they know how to speak Spanish, but it's true they speak Welsh.
@@MariaJulia-od8jv la verdad que yo no tenia idea que en concreto habia una comunidad de Gales por aca, soy de rio negro y por estos lados se menciona bastante poco la ascendencia europea porque es algo que se da por entendido y se profundiza talvez mas en el lado originario de las tierras
I am Welsh and I remember learning about Patagonia in my school. I learned that the English almost killed the Welsh language. In schools at the time you would get in trouble for speaking Welsh. Side note , you uploaded this a few days aftet the day were we in Wales celebrate our language witch is 'Diwrnod Shwmae Su'mae'.
I'm from the Chubut province. Everyone speaks Spanish here. Yes some people speak Welsh, there is a strong Welsh descendants community, and people from Wales come here all the time, but is not an isolated thing from the rest of the country. There were even Welsh Argentines in the Falklands in war.
This place is actually a huge tourist attraction. I live a couple of hours by car away and it's super popular for people who live here to go and spend the day there and try their tea which is special. They also have a train museum which I visited with my school a couple of years back
@@Cadmann778 Brazil kept slavery till 1888. The confederate government had a grand plan to occupy the coast of the Caribbean as more slave states within the CSA. Once the war was lost and the slaves freed, it is not hard to imagine the lure of Brazil. Free fertile land and slavery. Just what the planter class in the south would want.
"Uh Wlad-vah" is how you pronounce 'Y Wladfa'. It means something like 'the colony' but may have a more nuanced meaning. The "Wlad-" in Y Wladfa comes from the same root as 'Gwlad' in the chorus of the Welsh anthem and translates roughly as 'Country', 'Land' or 'Homeland'.
My two state solution to Israel-Palestine: Israel: New England Palestine: New Wales Then we can redo the whole whole history of England and Wales with a new backdrop.
In Patagonia, Argentina, there exists also an Afrikaner/Boer enclave or community. They fled South Africa during the 2nd Anglo-Boer war (1899-1902) in which the English burnt down farmland and rounded up women and children and put them in concentration camps. The Afrikaner/Boers have had a bit of a goodluck-badluck moment, because they found diamonds and gold in their independent republics, which set off the wars between them and the British. When these Boers fled to Argentina, the government gave them a large portion of arid, dry land to farm on, BUT THEN THEY STRUCK OIL and the government took the land back to get rich from this natural resource. The families still live there and there is a documentary about them called 'The Boers at the end of the world'.
In this video, I suppose that the Scots Gaelic-speaking part of Cape Breton Island and elsewhere in Nova Scotia could have been discussed at least in passing. I regard that as the Canadian equivalent of the Welsh colony of Chubut, Argentine Patagonia.
This also explains that Argentina was once wealthy enough that people from Wales would cross across Atlantic to the south to settle there than go few miles to Manchester or London. Its interesting that Argentina attracted all sorts of people.
It was basically a romance united states back then. The welsh only came bc of these colonies that were specifically targeted to welsh people who wanted to maintain welsh culture. But most migrants came from romance countries (Italy, Spain, France). But yeah, all sorts of people arrived in Argentina, in different sizes of course.
I'm from Argentina and I go to Puerto Madryn, Gaiman and Trelew every year. It is common to see remains of Welsh culture. Maybe the name of some place, a historical and cultural site or the not strange Welsh pastry and cousine. Specially in Gaiman, which is a little town compared to Puerto Madryn or Trelew, you could go to a traditional Welsh tea house, there are lots of them. There is even one, which is precious and lovely, personally my favorite, where Princess Dianna went to.
I went there in 2017 most people dont speak welsh anymore, its just another argentine town with a migrant colony past. There are many weird migrant colonies forgoten in the argentine interior, my father came from one of swedish, germans and russians in the midle of the jungle in misiones province
I'm busy so I can't view this video rn but I'm really happy someone's making a video about Puerto Madryn. I live in Buenos Aires and I've been to this place and I loved it
About 6 months ago I learned about Welsh Argentina and found it very interesting how it happened, like the german colonization of southern Chile. Glad there's more interesting videos talking about it
It's not a separate colony, colony in this case means settlement, but I mean there are settlements of non-spanish or Portuguese origin in many places in South America, where people would come from overseas buy a farm and start a small village. It doesn't make them a different colony they never had political autonomy or anything like that.
At 3:40 I really thought you were about to say that this is why there is a huge German population in Argentina and I think that pause you did there was on purpose
That’s really bad considering I learned about this as an American in a HORRIBLY funded public school system, where they barely teach US history correctly (that already has been whitewashed & filled with government-sponsored propaganda) much less anything world history-related
@@Dhi_Bee the thing is that nothing historically significant happened there. So there’s no reason for this to be in a school curriculum. We are a country of immigrants and we have hundreds of little colonial towns across the country (Italians, Germans, Russians, Ukrainians, Polish, etc).
Gwych!! Dw i byth yn cwrdd a rhywun sy'n dod o'r wladfa! Ydych chi'n siarad Cymraeg fel mamiaith? Sut mae'r addsyg gymraeg yno? Oes ysgolion a cholegau Gymraeg?
I visited Puerto Madryn and Trelew. It was quite an interesting dynamic compared to other parts of Argentina I visited. I would say it’s a place known for being a place with a lot of Welsh descendants, but many of the people there told me that there isn’t a huge welsh-speaking population. Like most other immigrant populations in Argentina, they all learned Spanish over time and almost everyone there who speaks welsh also speaks Spanish.
*Reads Title In Notifications* A Toycat Video About Y Wladfa? Hell Yeah! EDIT: So, He Didn't Mention It, So I Want To Share One Of My Favourite Fun Facts About Y Wladfa: The Modern Welsh Number System Was Invented In Y Wladfa. To Explain, There Are Actually Two Commonly Used Welsh Counting Systems: The Traditional "Vigesimal" System, And The Newer "Decimal" One. The Traditional One Is Kinda Complicated, But For The Most Part Has Individual Names For Everything From 1-20, Plus 40, 60, And 80, And Names All Other Numbers Are Based On That, For Example 35 Is Said As "15 On 20", I Believe, While The New System Is Much Simple, Two-Digit Numbers Are Just Said As A Combination of Three Words: The Number Of Tens, The Number Ten, And Then The Number Of Ones, So 35 Is Thus Said Literally As "3 Ten 5", And This Newer One Was Invented By A Patagonian Businessman. Bonus Fun Fact: You May Have Heard About The Silly Way French Expresses Numbers 60-100, And Specifically 99, But Welsh Does It In An Arguably Even More Silly Way, With The Traditional System Atleast, In Which 99 Is Said As "4 On 15 And Four Twenty".
The fact that Bougainville is located in the Solomon Islands chain (though not the country of that name) makes me think of a typical name that sounds Moroccan Jewish (which could be most typically found in Israel, France, and my own city of Montreal, where I know tons of Moroccan Jews). This name is...Shlomo Bouganim, or perhaps Salomon Bouganim or Solomon Bouganim. (Shlomo is Hebrew for Solomon, and Bouganim sounds a bit like Bougainville.)
I'd just advise a little caution. People in Latin America really like to pretend they are like foreigners, particularly Europeans or Americans, and so similarities or connections to those places are often hugely exaggerated. In Brazil for example it's almost a meme how people invariably will talk about how "there are many Germans in the south of Brazil", or "Brazil is a country of immigrants", whenever there is a mention of the country online - and unironically, particularly if the mention associates Brazil too much with Latin America, Africa, or its own local culture. It is as if in their minds immigration from 100 years ago would rub on them and make them Europeans or as if they could make Brazil the US simply by repeating those mantras, "we are like the US, we are an immigration society", while if you actually go to the south of Brazil you'll realize it is nothing like German, people don't speak German basically at all, and in the places where there is "German architecture" oftentimes it's literally just the façade to attract tourists. Numbers of immigrants and descendants in Brazil, as well as their influence, are also greatly exaggerated by these people. So it's good to make a lot of research before believing their tales.
I mean, here an Argentine talking, a lot of people I know have the double citizenship, it is true that the north is full of truly Americans and their descendants, many families trace their ties to the incan civilization. But in Buenos Aires and around everyone belongs to a collectivity (meaning group of people) I have ties to germans and Italians (where I got citizenship) and in my case all my great grandparents came from abroad, still that doesn't make me European I'm American (although I have the citizenship I dont feel Italian and I would never define myself as so). It is though, undeniable that Latin American countries vary widely in respect to this, you dont have the same amount of immigration in Argentina and Ecuador for example and that is noticeable in the goverment the people names and their last names, but we are all Americans none of us are better that the other. Football is another topic though 😉😉
Wales is a country (principality to be precise) the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a Nation made up of 4 countries with distinct languages histories and cultures. Why is this so hard for people.
Wales is a "country" if you use country to describe subdivisions of the UK, and not when you mean sovereign state (as most people do) why is this so hard for people.
@@ibx2cat You're definition is somatic. Mine I legal. We don't pretend our other countries don't exist while oppressing their people's and language (anymore). Free Gascony
The Isle of man is a part of the UK. Dependent territories of the UK, including overseas territories and Crown dependencies just work like very autonomous part of the UK and aren't a part of any other sovereign state.
Also interesting that the Welsh-speaking enclave in Argentina is not that far from the British Falklands, populated by mostly people of Welsh origin. Great video!
12:23 Watch out toycat! Your social credit was lowered after your comment about the CCP. We're going to have to take your channel for a bit in order to put it back on the right path. Also how do you know what an independence movement is? and what is Taiwan? Keep working loyal citizen for a better social credit
I love the bit where he lists out the great things the CCP has done. Also, I was nowhere near Beijing on 4th June. In fact, I'm pretty sure that 4th June 1989 was an ordinary day. Comrade let's support the communist party because without them there would be no new China!! +10000 Social Credit Edit: in all seriousness that joke was pretty funny
I guess I remember something from all those duolingo lessons, Ty Gwyn is clearly white house, and Ysgol Gymraeg is a Welsh school, Plas y Coed is something to do with "the forest" 9:40 "ee oo-lahd-vah" 18:10, you are thinking of Galicia but the celtic culture there is more of an import from britons (ancestral welsh people) fleeing Britain while it was being conquered by the Anglo-Saxons, some of which ended up in France and became the Bretons of Brittany.
All the flags of the British colonial governors had the colony's badge in the centre with Union flag in background. Queensland, Australia still uses that type of flag proposed for Westralia.
3:05 recently heard about a similar story with a Greek nationalist under Turkish rule who went to live in Zambia or Zimbabwe I'm not 100% certain, and nowadays there's an entire Greek Orthodox tribe numbering 4.000 members descended from him
The Spanish fact sounds a lot like the Basque country (where Bilbao is). However, the culture is not celtic, we don't even know where the language comes from because it's not related to any other language in the world! It probably comes from the people that lived there before the arab invasion, but historians say we can't tell for sure. Also, the culture that's the most linked to the celts in Spain is Galician (they even have bagpipes), but they speak a language very close to portuguese, they just kept a little part of the culture. Like any other country, Spain has lots of cultures, but people don't get to hear about it because of the stereotypes and because it's only one country. There's also lots of languages that are spoken in Spain, but only three got to cooficial level (in their regions Spanish and the local language are official), but many are going extinct...
Don't you mean before the Roman conquests considering the Muslims (not all were Arab, in fact most of them were Berbers who had recently converted and also been conquered). The "people who lived there before the muslim invasion" doesn't make any sense. Actually, some historians think they are people who there even before the Celtic influx into Iberia. They also had to fight off the Frankish invasions as well so they've been there for a while now.
@@skatingfreak1670 yes, you're completely right! I haven't studied history for a while, I was trying to remember the most I could from school, and it has been a few years already
You dont want to upset *Daddy China* is one of the most amazing sentences ever...my own country is an example of so many cultures in just one boundary and I truly believe that country is just people coming together to get a government
Yay someone talking about Western Australia . Petrol station gets its petrol oil trucks from Perth so costs more. yep many towns are just a road house (Petrol station with a cafe and big enough for trucks) or where my uncle's a farm is a billboard haha . That topic even is talked about atm. Im a west Aussie :)
“God, please not Wales or Argentina.”
“Sir, where am I?”
“Puerto Madryn.”
I'm from the area and that's the least welsh city actually 😂 the most welsh towns are probably rawson and gaiman, literally speaks 100% welsh like me
@@kobs7863 Your surname sounds rather austrian or german swiss
@@MrLaizard i mean its in argentina
@@zerkku7916 you just made the joke of the year without probably knowing
don't gorget that a part of argentina speaks german
My school were taught about patagonia in Welsh lessons and it became a joke when you asked "why are we learning Welsh if it's not spoken anywhere else" and someone would say "what about Argentina?"
Here in argentina we always say that when we learn welsh, but we say "what about wales?"
Every time in comp
@@kobs7863 is this actually true ahahah???
@@SyntaxErr19287 no haha
@@kobs7863 noooo vos sos de instagram jajajajajja
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Y Wladfa, relatively well known in Wales and unheard of anywhere else. Theres a Welsh film called Patagonia about Welsh-Argentinians visiting Wales and Welsh people visiting Patagonia
Where can I source this film?
I'm argentine half german half welsh and i really like your picture
@@kobs7863 gracias/ danke/ diolch
@@kobs7863 How are you half and half and half?
@@Improj69 what do you mean? My granparents were german and my other granparents were welsh
"I like this flag more than the Peoples Republic of China"
*Social Credit Score -100000*
What
Well... I mean every modern flag is ugly as hell. I mean three stripes of random colour. A dot in the middle. Random stars which look all the same in every flag. Always the same colours, patterns and shapes.
Even babies which have just been born can make better flags then our governments.
But it has a dragon. Dragons make any flag cooler
Love how no one cares how racist that meme is.
@Quinnard I'm talking about the +/-1000 meme. Have you actually seen the meme itself? It has a racist depiction of a chinese fella.
This is exactly the kind of content that brought me into the Toycat empire in the first place -- thank you!
You've done ✅
yea
A few years ago I actually went on a school trip to Patagonia (from Wales) and visited the area where they speak Welsh. It was a really weird experience but so much fun and my favourite thing was definitely how the Welsh and Argentinian accents blended when they spoke Welsh. Many of the places in the area are actually named oddly because they are the Spanish way of saying Welsh words.
What towns did you visit? Greetings from argentina, long live cymru
@@kobs7863 We stayed in Trelew and visited Gaiman, Dolavon and Puerto Madryn. We went to other places too but I can't remember where exactly. (We also stayed in Buenos Aires for a few days on the way back)
@@samueljhughes i'm sorry for you, i was born near trelew, it's a shithole but the other places are really beautiful i hope you had a great time here
@@samueljhughes buenos aires for the win
"as much as we love the peoples republic of china, they do many great things for the world like..
anyway china"
Its probablt easier for E string
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@@derk420xgho Ghanaian
Dude at the same he said it i read ur comment tf
I live surprisingly close to the Welsh town you speak of
always struck me as rather odd that someone would choose to name their city "Gay man"
why
How different is Gaiman from the rest of Argentina?
"Gaiman" does *not* equal "gay man". It's from the indigenous Tehuelche word for "rocky point".
@@kugul1683 I've only been there once, it is _very_ Welsh. People speak Spanish, but they might only use it to speak with argentine tourists. There's another Welsh town in the province named Trevelin which is similar
@@kugul1683 i'm from the area, i would say chubut itself is a little different from the rest of argentina, we have the same accent and all that stuff but we are mostly german and welsh descendents that keeps that cultures and the languages alive
Still probably a higher percentage of Welsh speakers than Wales itself
Very true.
So... it worked
29% of the Welsh population speak Welsh which is over 844,000 people and growing, and there is approximately 1-5,000 Welsh speakers in Argentina so, no…
@@mercurymorning1 r/woooosh
@@mercurymorning1 I know. Some people think they are so smart and disrespect countries like Scotland and wales. I’m English and even I can respect them.
"This sounds like a fan-made thing" this implies there are Argentina fans
I'm from Argentina 😁
Another Argentine here 🇦🇷
@@CorvusLeukos but do you stick to the roof and spin around really fast to push air around?
@@loreleihillard5078 wtf are you saying?
@@CorvusLeukos are you really a fan?
as an Australian seeing west Australian become independent wouldn't be that surprising seeing the current way Australia's going
I don't think it will actually happen, though we have been flexing our "We're different over here in WA" muscles lately.
Wassie here (wow that sounds dumb) and yeah your right lol. This time has really emphasized our differences. Especially with every state govt making their own policies. I mean one state closing their borders to the rest of the country and the world. That is the epitome of separation.
Consuming media (podcasts or tv in my case) made by Australians over east has never felt less relatable.
@@bfc9467 nsw and vic is gonna open to the world before wa
West Australia was almost impendent
Do you think New Zealand will ever become independent from Australia?
Fun fact of the welsh colony in Argentina: They teach welsh and it's recognised as a regional lenguage
And the Tibet's flag it's marvelous >:c
I live there in Patagonia, you miss that lady Diana came to visit here due this colony. Also there's still the cup that she drank from at the tea house she came (little spilled for a princess lol). Ask me anything.
Brits: "The Falklands is ours"
Argentina: Learns Welsh to claim it for themselves
i have fond memories of watching your minecraft videos in around (if i remember correctly) 2013-2015 (where i would've been 8-10 years old) and even though i'm not very interested in minecraft anymore i recently found out about your geography videos and since i just happen to be more interested in geography these days i still manage to find enjoyment in your videos after all these years! greetings from australia!!!
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The Celtic part of Spain is Galicia, its the portion right above Portugal :) It's basically a basin surrounded by mountains.
No I'm Basque I am not a baker
The region of the Minho river in Portugal is also a Celtic part of Iberia, their DNA is still pretty present there
However, toycat says the reason why it’s Celtic is because it wasn’t conquered by muslims but that is inaccurate, Asturias survived Muslim Conquest, not Galicia
As an Argentinian myself, I didn't know, but as a considerable porcentage of our population are immigrants or their descendance, I don't find it strange at all.
In fact, in most portuary cities (like mine) there are some red English mail boxes too
Ariannin 🙌 da iawn 🙌
Un porcentaje considerable de la poblacion argentina es inmigrante? Si...el 90 por ciento son hijos nietos de inmigrantes
You know an unassuming person reading the title might think you may have just started another war between the British and the Argentines.
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Not really, everybody in Argentina knows, just the same as the United states, almost all the population here are descendants of Europeans, and people like to keep their roots so many people have family over seas mainly in Italy but still we have German communities Spanish communities and so on. The thing with the Welsh people (kind of the same happened with the danish) is that they were so far away in the Patagonia for so long that they never had to actually learn Spanish in the past (because at the end of the 19 century the school system started and Spanish was the language in school and only adults were left speaking they original European languages), so yes, they are argentines and of course they know how to speak Spanish, but it's true they speak Welsh.
@@MariaJulia-od8jv iooooooooo
@@MariaJulia-od8jv la verdad que yo no tenia idea que en concreto habia una comunidad de Gales por aca, soy de rio negro y por estos lados se menciona bastante poco la ascendencia europea porque es algo que se da por entendido y se profundiza talvez mas en el lado originario de las tierras
In Wales it is taught in most schools that we had a colony in Patagonia 🏴🤣
Lady Di visited Gaiman in Chubut, Argentina where there are ppl of Wesh ancestry. Greetings from Paraná, Entre Ríos (Argentina)
I am Welsh and I remember learning about Patagonia in my school. I learned that the English almost killed the Welsh language. In schools at the time you would get in trouble for speaking Welsh. Side note , you uploaded this a few days aftet the day were we in Wales celebrate our language witch is 'Diwrnod Shwmae Su'mae'.
Same thing happend in Ireland but Im glad that I can speak English
I'm from the Chubut province. Everyone speaks Spanish here. Yes some people speak Welsh, there is a strong Welsh descendants community, and people from Wales come here all the time, but is not an isolated thing from the rest of the country. There were even Welsh Argentines in the Falklands in war.
chibnut spaonish
This place is actually a huge tourist attraction. I live a couple of hours by car away and it's super popular for people who live here to go and spend the day there and try their tea which is special. They also have a train museum which I visited with my school a couple of years back
That explains why they preserved the foreign look.
Let's go
Another weird South american fun fact is that here in Brazil in some cities the Pomeranian dialect is spoken.
It's a German dialect, not the Pomeranian (Kashubian) language
@@robertfaucher3750 Good point.
@@bisko3543 Still cool as hell though.
isnt there also a colony started by american confederates in brazil?
@@Cadmann778 Brazil kept slavery till 1888. The confederate government had a grand plan to occupy the coast of the Caribbean as more slave states within the CSA.
Once the war was lost and the slaves freed, it is not hard to imagine the lure of Brazil. Free fertile land and slavery. Just what the planter class in the south would want.
Puerto Madryn is awesome, I even got the colony´s flag as a souvenir
I know some famous German artist living in Argentina too! What a beautiful diverse country
do you mean Martín Blaszko?
I'm going to watch this later when i'm going to eat lunch.
edit: Watched it and enjoyed it and i also enjoyed my lunch.
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"Uh Wlad-vah" is how you pronounce 'Y Wladfa'.
It means something like 'the colony' but may have a more nuanced meaning.
The "Wlad-" in Y Wladfa comes from the same root as 'Gwlad' in the chorus of the Welsh anthem and translates roughly as 'Country', 'Land' or 'Homeland'.
Son where are tou
My two state solution to Israel-Palestine:
Israel: New England
Palestine: New Wales
Then we can redo the whole whole history of England and Wales with a new backdrop.
New New England and New North Wales.
In Patagonia, Argentina, there exists also an Afrikaner/Boer enclave or community. They fled South Africa during the 2nd Anglo-Boer war (1899-1902) in which the English burnt down farmland and rounded up women and children and put them in concentration camps. The Afrikaner/Boers have had a bit of a goodluck-badluck moment, because they found diamonds and gold in their independent republics, which set off the wars between them and the British. When these Boers fled to Argentina, the government gave them a large portion of arid, dry land to farm on, BUT THEN THEY STRUCK OIL and the government took the land back to get rich from this natural resource. The families still live there and there is a documentary about them called 'The Boers at the end of the world'.
Remember that there are tons of history that aren't told or known yet like the untold history of Wales' secret colony down in Argentina.
In this video, I suppose that the Scots Gaelic-speaking part of Cape Breton Island and elsewhere in Nova Scotia could have been discussed at least in passing. I regard that as the Canadian equivalent of the Welsh colony of Chubut, Argentine Patagonia.
This also explains that Argentina was once wealthy enough that people from Wales would cross across Atlantic to the south to settle there than go few miles to Manchester or London. Its interesting that Argentina attracted all sorts of people.
It was basically a romance united states back then. The welsh only came bc of these colonies that were specifically targeted to welsh people who wanted to maintain welsh culture. But most migrants came from romance countries (Italy, Spain, France). But yeah, all sorts of people arrived in Argentina, in different sizes of course.
I'm from Argentina and I go to Puerto Madryn, Gaiman and Trelew every year. It is common to see remains of Welsh culture. Maybe the name of some place, a historical and cultural site or the not strange Welsh pastry and cousine. Specially in Gaiman, which is a little town compared to Puerto Madryn or Trelew, you could go to a traditional Welsh tea house, there are lots of them. There is even one, which is precious and lovely, personally my favorite, where Princess Dianna went to.
Im Argentinian and this is true. Cheers from Argentina!!
Shwmae o Gymru👋❤
Eyyy, I’m welsh and they would always teach us about Patagonia in school hahah
I went there in 2017 most people dont speak welsh anymore, its just another argentine town with a migrant colony past. There are many weird migrant colonies forgoten in the argentine interior, my father came from one of swedish, germans and russians in the midle of the jungle in misiones province
I'm a Welsh person, and I never knew that!
Toycat: "The number of countries is only going to increase as time goes on"
Also Toycat: thinks the EU will become one country someday
I can think of one counterexample: Lesotho has people who have argued there is no longer any reason to be separate from South Africa.
Let’s hope the EU doesn’t become one country they have too much Power as it is
Glad to see you only took 3 keys instead of your 3 lines for this video.
I miss him saying "Where we talk about geography and the world and stuff".
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did anyone else find this before his main channel
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I'm busy so I can't view this video rn but I'm really happy someone's making a video about Puerto Madryn. I live in Buenos Aires and I've been to this place and I loved it
About 6 months ago I learned about Welsh Argentina and found it very interesting how it happened, like the german colonization of southern Chile. Glad there's more interesting videos talking about it
In Argentina and Brazil there was also german colonization.
He's wearing glasses! :0
Looking good 😎
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Agree, really fits him.
Cyrmugonia (Combination of the Welsh name of Wales and the Argentine region of Patagonia)
It's not a separate colony, colony in this case means settlement, but I mean there are settlements of non-spanish or Portuguese origin in many places in South America, where people would come from overseas buy a farm and start a small village. It doesn't make them a different colony they never had political autonomy or anything like that.
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It's not like colonialism it's way more like immigration. Like the overseas Chinese. Or like French Canadians.
@@gamermapper lot
Yeah, I actually made an entire video delving into the language itself, interesting case of a diaspora language.
That's a really good video bro
I always read it as ‘Boganville’, and imagine a city built on mullets, VB, and, Commodores.
good ol classic bogan ville
At 3:40 I really thought you were about to say that this is why there is a huge German population in Argentina and I think that pause you did there was on purpose
Hello, Argentinian here! Haven't been there sadly, but have visited other regions in which other languages are spoken, greetings from here!
did you just call Basque celtic? oh my god
I've lived in Argentina and I never learned about this
Really? That welsh town is super touristy if you go to Patagonia. It got really famous when princess Diana went to Argentina and made a stop there
That’s really bad considering I learned about this as an American in a HORRIBLY funded public school system, where they barely teach US history correctly (that already has been whitewashed & filled with government-sponsored propaganda) much less anything world history-related
@@Dhi_Bee the thing is that nothing historically significant happened there. So there’s no reason for this to be in a school curriculum. We are a country of immigrants and we have hundreds of little colonial towns across the country (Italians, Germans, Russians, Ukrainians, Polish, etc).
Literally me, i'm from rawson and i speak welsh
Gwych!! Dw i byth yn cwrdd a rhywun sy'n dod o'r wladfa! Ydych chi'n siarad Cymraeg fel mamiaith? Sut mae'r addsyg gymraeg yno? Oes ysgolion a cholegau Gymraeg?
Fun fact: there's a German town in Venezuela
They sell a bomb ass hot chocolate and strawberries
8:45 Ah yes, the two main characteristics of European culture: Cobblestone roads and Colonialism
how to gain independence from a major world power: trick great britain into thinking you're a former colony
support country independence because of a lot things: nope
support country independence because of their flags: yes
-“European cultures are the ones with imperialism and cobble stone roads”
-Japan hiding the fact they were a huge imperial power
Wales 🏴 whooo
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I visited Puerto Madryn and Trelew. It was quite an interesting dynamic compared to other parts of Argentina I visited. I would say it’s a place known for being a place with a lot of Welsh descendants, but many of the people there told me that there isn’t a huge welsh-speaking population. Like most other immigrant populations in Argentina, they all learned Spanish over time and almost everyone there who speaks welsh also speaks Spanish.
*Reads Title In Notifications* A Toycat Video About Y Wladfa? Hell Yeah!
EDIT: So, He Didn't Mention It, So I Want To Share One Of My Favourite Fun Facts About Y Wladfa: The Modern Welsh Number System Was Invented In Y Wladfa. To Explain, There Are Actually Two Commonly Used Welsh Counting Systems: The Traditional "Vigesimal" System, And The Newer "Decimal" One. The Traditional One Is Kinda Complicated, But For The Most Part Has Individual Names For Everything From 1-20, Plus 40, 60, And 80, And Names All Other Numbers Are Based On That, For Example 35 Is Said As "15 On 20", I Believe, While The New System Is Much Simple, Two-Digit Numbers Are Just Said As A Combination of Three Words: The Number Of Tens, The Number Ten, And Then The Number Of Ones, So 35 Is Thus Said Literally As "3 Ten 5", And This Newer One Was Invented By A Patagonian Businessman.
Bonus Fun Fact: You May Have Heard About The Silly Way French Expresses Numbers 60-100, And Specifically 99, But Welsh Does It In An Arguably Even More Silly Way, With The Traditional System Atleast, In Which 99 Is Said As "4 On 15 And Four Twenty".
Why the capital letters
Diolch am eich comment chi! :D Mae'n neis i ddarllen rhywun sy'n gwybod llawer o bethe am Gymru!
3:34 "Isn't really using "? C'mon
The fact that Bougainville is located in the Solomon Islands chain (though not the country of that name) makes me think of a typical name that sounds Moroccan Jewish (which could be most typically found in Israel, France, and my own city of Montreal, where I know tons of Moroccan Jews). This name is...Shlomo Bouganim, or perhaps Salomon Bouganim or Solomon Bouganim. (Shlomo is Hebrew for Solomon, and Bouganim sounds a bit like Bougainville.)
"don't want to upset Daddy China any way". 🤔 We won't tell anyone..
I'd just advise a little caution. People in Latin America really like to pretend they are like foreigners, particularly Europeans or Americans, and so similarities or connections to those places are often hugely exaggerated. In Brazil for example it's almost a meme how people invariably will talk about how "there are many Germans in the south of Brazil", or "Brazil is a country of immigrants", whenever there is a mention of the country online - and unironically, particularly if the mention associates Brazil too much with Latin America, Africa, or its own local culture. It is as if in their minds immigration from 100 years ago would rub on them and make them Europeans or as if they could make Brazil the US simply by repeating those mantras, "we are like the US, we are an immigration society", while if you actually go to the south of Brazil you'll realize it is nothing like German, people don't speak German basically at all, and in the places where there is "German architecture" oftentimes it's literally just the façade to attract tourists. Numbers of immigrants and descendants in Brazil, as well as their influence, are also greatly exaggerated by these people. So it's good to make a lot of research before believing their tales.
Residpresidner on the moon
I mean, here an Argentine talking, a lot of people I know have the double citizenship, it is true that the north is full of truly Americans and their descendants, many families trace their ties to the incan civilization. But in Buenos Aires and around everyone belongs to a collectivity (meaning group of people) I have ties to germans and Italians (where I got citizenship) and in my case all my great grandparents came from abroad, still that doesn't make me European I'm American (although I have the citizenship I dont feel Italian and I would never define myself as so).
It is though, undeniable that Latin American countries vary widely in respect to this, you dont have the same amount of immigration in Argentina and Ecuador for example and that is noticeable in the goverment the people names and their last names, but we are all Americans none of us are better that the other.
Football is another topic though 😉😉
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Wales is a country (principality to be precise) the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a Nation made up of 4 countries with distinct languages histories and cultures. Why is this so hard for people.
Wales is a "country" if you use country to describe subdivisions of the UK, and not when you mean sovereign state (as most people do) why is this so hard for people.
There is no right answer. Countries are different depending on what you view a country is. No need to argue Wales will be Wales and Britain
@@ibx2cat You're definition is somatic. Mine I legal. We don't pretend our other countries don't exist while oppressing their people's and language (anymore).
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The Isle of man is a part of the UK. Dependent territories of the UK, including overseas territories and Crown dependencies just work like very autonomous part of the UK and aren't a part of any other sovereign state.
Have you considered that the uk is not the center of the world therefore some people don’t care enough to study this kinda stuff?
And there’s a region of Argentina that speaks German…
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And italian
im welsh
I went to a Welsh primary school and this is something they brung up frequently
Also interesting that the Welsh-speaking enclave in Argentina is not that far from the British Falklands, populated by mostly people of Welsh origin. Great video!
12:23 Watch out toycat! Your social credit was lowered after your comment about the CCP. We're going to have to take your channel for a bit in order to put it back on the right path. Also how do you know what an independence movement is? and what is Taiwan? Keep working loyal citizen for a better social credit
I love the bit where he lists out the great things the CCP has done.
Also, I was nowhere near Beijing on 4th June. In fact, I'm pretty sure that 4th June 1989 was an ordinary day.
Comrade let's support the communist party because without them there would be no new China!! +10000 Social Credit
Edit: in all seriousness that joke was pretty funny
Y Cymry oedd y rhai tu ôl i'r ymerodraeth drwy'r amser!
And the true heirs to the throne of the true britons
Triwch ddweud hon at cymdeithas yr iaith ac byddon ni'n gweld beth sy'n occurio.
Flag critique episodes ? ... maybe
Litteraly found about at this yesterday, cool that you are making a video about it
ah yes, my favorite language... western
So panelist
I hate how every welsh teacher all ways goes on about Patagonia whenever someone says something about Welsh not being worth the time to learn.
The funniest thing is that only really old people still speak welsh down here lol
There are projects that are trying to spread the language tho, but i doubt they’ll be that effective
Very interesting. 😮
As a Brit living in Israel, I would love to have a two-state solution with the Welsh. Finally some good culture over here. I highly support it.
As a German from Russia born and raised in North Dakota, I feel sorrow for the lies our ancestors were sold about settling the land.
A flag can make you decide that a countries autonomy isn't worth it?
I hope you never have a flag.... that'll be the reason for some misfortune.
I just love that at 12:25, he doesn't mention any good things China does 🤣
"china does great things for the world, like... um... so anyways"
- 30,000,000 social credit
12:28 for the people wondering
I guess I remember something from all those duolingo lessons, Ty Gwyn is clearly white house, and Ysgol Gymraeg is a Welsh school, Plas y Coed is something to do with "the forest"
9:40 "ee oo-lahd-vah"
18:10, you are thinking of Galicia but the celtic culture there is more of an import from britons (ancestral welsh people) fleeing Britain while it was being conquered by the Anglo-Saxons, some of which ended up in France and became the Bretons of Brittany.
"Plas y coed" Plas - Mansion, Y - The, Coed - Tree's. Coedwig - forest
As a Western Australian I have never felt state pride until watching this video.
About time you got around to this.
All the flags of the British colonial governors had the colony's badge in the centre with Union flag in background. Queensland, Australia still uses that type of flag proposed for Westralia.
The first I ever heard of Chubut or anything like that was a book from the same author as who wrote _A Wrinkle in Time_ honestly
Gretings from mar del plata Argentina 🇦🇷🤗..
Espero que en alguna ocasión nos visites..😊.
Wlecome.
12:25 I died when he just went silent XD
3:05 recently heard about a similar story with a Greek nationalist under Turkish rule who went to live in Zambia or Zimbabwe I'm not 100% certain, and nowadays there's an entire Greek Orthodox tribe numbering 4.000 members descended from him
The Spanish fact sounds a lot like the Basque country (where Bilbao is). However, the culture is not celtic, we don't even know where the language comes from because it's not related to any other language in the world! It probably comes from the people that lived there before the arab invasion, but historians say we can't tell for sure.
Also, the culture that's the most linked to the celts in Spain is Galician (they even have bagpipes), but they speak a language very close to portuguese, they just kept a little part of the culture.
Like any other country, Spain has lots of cultures, but people don't get to hear about it because of the stereotypes and because it's only one country. There's also lots of languages that are spoken in Spain, but only three got to cooficial level (in their regions Spanish and the local language are official), but many are going extinct...
Don't you mean before the Roman conquests considering the Muslims (not all were Arab, in fact most of them were Berbers who had recently converted and also been conquered). The "people who lived there before the muslim invasion" doesn't make any sense.
Actually, some historians think they are people who there even before the Celtic influx into Iberia.
They also had to fight off the Frankish invasions as well so they've been there for a while now.
@@skatingfreak1670 yes, you're completely right! I haven't studied history for a while, I was trying to remember the most I could from school, and it has been a few years already
You dont want to upset *Daddy China* is one of the most amazing sentences ever...my own country is an example of so many cultures in just one boundary and I truly believe that country is just people coming together to get a government
Strange. Last time I heard about that region was in the 1940’s when people were speaking German down there.
Yay someone talking about Western Australia . Petrol station gets its petrol oil trucks from Perth so costs more. yep many towns are just a road house (Petrol station with a cafe and big enough for trucks) or where my uncle's a farm is a billboard haha . That topic even is talked about atm. Im a west Aussie :)
Perth sucks
@@feluk- i love it dont care if u don't
@@crazymusicchick you don't make friends with perta
@@feluk- go back to russia
@@crazymusicchick son you know we never went to Russia its russian
im in year 10 in wales and we had to learn about this throughout ks3 years
There's also a part of Brazil that speaks German
China? You mean Western Taiwan?
Who are we
I though this would be a german grandpa joke
Cashmere sweate
Found out recently I’m Welsh, and this got recommended, pretty cool.