[Hitless] Dragonlord Placidusax RL1+0 Zwei Only - Elden Ring Challenge Run
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- Опубліковано 8 лип 2024
- Placidsuax has some very cinematic looking attacks, but when you get down to it he's not engaging gameplay wise at all. At least with Rennala, Elden Beast, and Ancestral Spirit I find myself vibing a lot more and having a chill time, rather than bored to tears.
This could've been way more optimal and shorter but I had s*** RNG and coudln't really be bothered anyways: • Dragonlord Placidusax ...
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The Challenge Run in it's entirety: • Margit RL1+0 Zwei Only...
This is from my infamous "Suck it Anderson" Elden Ring challenge run. I always nickname runs so they aren't such a mouthful, but basically it's a Zweihander only, RL1+0 build. The point of this run is for me to have fun mastering the bosses while showing that anyone with two eyeballs and a heartbeat can learn the bosses, and to show that colossal weapons are better now than they have ever been. The posture system is a better incentive to playing aggressive than the rally system ever was tbh.
Timestamps:
0:00 Phase 1
7:22 Phase 2
23:31 Phase 3
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Placi is easily one of my favorite bosses from a visual/cinematic viewpoint, and maybe my favorite arena in the game, but I can see why he would be boring in a challenge run context.
Yea I used to love him, definitely one of the most cinematically impressive fights on the first dozen playthroughs even after seeing all the other bosses that come before him like Rykard and Radahn
@@loopine Fortissax/Lanessax however I’ve never been able to figure out how to fight properly so I definitely look forward to seeing how you tackled the former on this run!
@@loopinehe is kinda fun with actual dmg but 33 minutes of see tail bonk tail is just not it chief
Fighting a boss for more than 5 minutes at once already feels like forever to me. I can barely imagine a single attempt taking half an hour. Good job!👍👍
Father Owl was still kinda fun at the 40 min mark on my no upgrade run, this fight was pretty mind numbing ngl. That's on me though I played it super safe
@@loopine I've fought both Placidusax and Owl Father once on a normal playthrough each and quite enjoyed both of them. Their fights were long enough to really give that impression of a battle of endurance, while not becoming obnoxious and also still maintaining a tense fight. It makes them stand out where most bosses tend to have a much quicker pace.
whenever i get to start doing malenia at rl1 ng+7 +0 no talismans ive estimated it to be around 40 minutes but i find malenia fun even at extremely long lengths tbh. This fight taking 30 mins tho would probably be a great way to put me to sleep
@@loopinei would fight a boss like maliketh or morgott for 30 minutes but fugging ds2 boss placidusaxx hayll nah boai
If you fight Fortissax/Lansseax: highly suggest trying attacking his paws and looking to his front. You'll see what exactly he's doing (which also worked for me with other dragons without horse) while also avoiding and predicting his attacks. After that, it's a matter of finding the right angle to dodge his lightsaber attack. A pretty fun but short fight if you ask me.
But yeah, I adored Dragonlord, even if I'm not the biggest fan of dragon fights in Soulsborne (or other games in general). I feel him and Midir, despite their individual problems (and Midir has a handful of those) they feel fleshed out, have some mechanical depth and the spectacle is insanely high, which is what most dragon fights in other games rarely achieve.
Edit: Added Fortissax 'cause I mixed up their names, lol.
I think Dragon fights in all souls games are so sick the first few times but lose their appeal the more you play them. I find it's the opposite for most other bosses.
And yea I did the Midir method for Fortissax
@@loopine Agree with what you say. They're still great fights, don't get me wrong, they're much better than the jokes we have in other games, but aren't as mechanically nuanced as other. Of course, doing challenge runs are completely different and jankier than an average playthrough. I found that out in previous Souls and ER.
@@enman009rl1 +0 is the worst and best run of all time completeley depending on what boss you are currently fighting like rl1 +0 fortisaxx is the shit while rl1 +0 placidusaxx is shit
@@mabooooyleatherface.1044 That's why I think rl 1 aren't objective measures on how good bosses are since leveling up in an RPG is most of the times the ideal way to play, not to mention how you end up mastering the boss movement but doing little damage and a small mistake meaning death.
I agree that challenge run make bosses better or worse, because of the Souls jank and RPGs as a hole. Gideon is an ass on low levels, but on an average playthrough he can be a short 'n' sweet varied boss.
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I like Placi but even in the context of a normal fight if you run to his left side he just does the lightning claw into fire move every single time, with no mix-up or anything. It's soooo repetitive. He needs a couple more moves in this context.
I like i-framing the lightning attacks (where he roars and three appears) whlie hitting him but I can see how in a context like this you'd just have to do it too many times, and you'd get one shot...
Yea I kind of just went head empty and played it super safe, this fight should really be around 10 minutes
@@loopineoh shit 10 minutes? So you played like SAFE like feeble kings first playthrough safe
You should definitely try staying in front of him next time. It's wayyyyyy more fun and optimal that way
Yea I literally didn't even bother learning him, it probably would've been way less time consuming if I did lol.
Do you have any video examples?
@@loopine I'll try finding one. I've yet to see a video of someone fighting him up front, so it might be hard lol. I'll make my own if I can't find one
@@loopine I finally made the vid. Sorry it took so long lmao. ua-cam.com/video/kqkeSA94N6k/v-deo.htmlsi=HE_VcTaApdqogwE7
Holy cow that's a long fight. I really do wish he was a bit more engaging. P2 is okay with the teleporting giving some variation, but P1 is just so boring. Slightly less mind-numbing than Fortissax though at least imo
Yee for sure. I played kinda lame too. I think I like Fortissax, like I like the bullet hell idea in a game like this (might be why I kinda like Elden Beast) and it's a better tool for him to flush you out and make you move around Fortissax, rather than having him spam a tail swipe turn around like with Placidusax
Lupine, you gotta help me over here. I've been doing my zwei only no hit run, and the deathrite bird in the Mountaintop of the Giants has been kicking my ass. Do you know of any consistent way to dodge his stupid ghostflame explosion move because that's really the only move I have problems with.
Very late response but it's a five way pattern that is always angled the same relative to its body, just like Morgott's daggers. You just need to find the correct angles to run away from it when it's winding up the move and you can dodge it every time.
One of my fav. fights, although in a challenge run context is very understandable it would become a nightmare. Btw, i was wondering if you have seen Feeble King's response to your video on Joseph Anderson. He makes some outlandish claims particularly at the start, but he's updated analysis on the bosses is pretty good and I'll say his criticisms on ER not communicating very well how combat with bosses should be tackled are quite valid. Maybe a response to it on one of your streams like what you did with Quick Reviews would be interesting.
@@BBQcheese while i do think people stupidity is half the problem here, and i made a comment in Feble's video critisizing him for not acknowledging that, i do think ER communicates poorly that you have to be aggressive in boss combat. While i know the series is known for its obtuseness (and that definitely ER is better at communicating mechanics that, for example, Dark Souls), I've never viewed this as something good, but negative. Viewing UA-cam videos for lore is fun, for understanding basic mechanics, not so much. It's ok if you disagree, but honestly i don't understand how this opinion could be considered "not valid". My problem with not having the posture bar visible isn't because i think you cannot play around it. You can, and its very fun. But if we're going to withhold information from the player, then why not making the poison or rot meters invisible too? The reason is because they're useful. Having it would only make it instantly more intuitive for people to play aggressive and to optimize their runs against bosses. Besides, even if some builds don't need to see the bar, so what? Would it hurt the game to have it in any shape of form? You can also play Sekiro ignoring the posture bar and focusing on lowering the health of the bosses, but even in that case is unproblematic to have the posture bar. And the same applies to jump attacks imo, while those are more contentious since that would clutter the screen a lot in some fights.
@@BBQcheese poison and rot meters are invisible on enemies, but what i meant is that they're not invisible when you are getting poisoned. Think about it. Imagine a bar wouldn't fill up every time you walk through a poisoned swamp. Theoretically, you could still mentally predict via experimenting when you're gonna get poisoned. But the developers still made the bar visible because they found that learning curve dull. I think the same about the posture meter. The damage you could do by making it visible, implying as you mentioned an intended playstile (which i kinda disagree), is nothing imo compared to the damage of people forgetting it's a thing and relying on extremely passive styles to beat the bosses, which is what happened. Feeble says at the beginning that 95% of veterans didn't understand ER bosses when the game launched, and while that's absolutely a massive exaggeration based on an echo-chamber, it is true that when soooo many people have the same clearly unintended experience, somewhere along the lines something went wrong. And yes, we people are donkeys who hate learning new things and adapt, but we were the same donkeys when Sekiro came out and the backlash for combat changes wasn't nearly as bad.
Idk, maybe we would have to agree to disagree here.
@@BBQcheese wow i didn't know in the og demons souls the status effects were hidden for the player too. The more you know.
Anyways, thank you for the respectful conversation.
Why the tail chasing, from my experience it feels much faster and more fun to fight him up front. Was somewhat scary in rl1 +0, but this just looks exhausting. Great job tho : )
Yea definitely played it slow, I was just kinda mentally checked out for this one
@@loopine Yeah, can understand that. It's definitely not fun to spend 15+ min fighting a boss just to die to a broken fucking rock hitbox...
@@laesar2299 I think most of my deaths were just getting pinned against the wall when he would pull out a move that has aftershock or do a breath attack
@@loopine Random fires when i was in front of him killed me a few times. The double head bite attack and the stupid fucking rock throw were the real killers for me tho
@@laesar2299 omfg the rock throw
Probably the best dragon fight in the game, although that's not saying much of anything considering it's competition ranges from mediocre (all of the regular dragon fights and probably Lansseax) to (imo) complete trash tier with Fortissax
The good dragon fights have been solely in the DLC in the past games. Maybe we'll see better dragons than him and the others
I'm a bit of a Fortissax Stan tbh. Although in general the dragon fights in this game are a bit baffling. I like how you dodge the breath attacks by mounting Torrent but they reallyyyy needed more attacks than a breath attack and a goose step.
@@loopine i used to think fortissax was an okay boss with too little health (which from what i can gleam is the general consensus) but once i started doing more challenge runs against him i started having extreme problems with the general design of his fight.
@@aly3392 yea he has low hp and he gives most runners fits. I like the idea of a bullet hell boss in a game like this (Frotissax, EB, and Rennala aren't quite there though) and the lightning is an interesting way to make you constantly move around Fortissax and end up in weird spots so he does different attacks, rather than just getting behind any other dragon in a souls game and having then spam a tail swipe to reposition.
@@loopine the lightning is actually interesting in concept but in execution i think its pulled of horribly due to the inconsistency of the activation of the lightning (the actual interval before it strikes is consistent which is great). Also im not sure if this is a huge skill issue on my part but he can feel real hard to actually hit with his model's legs.