There 2013 roster stacked. Rotation was Verlander, Scherzer, Anibal Sanchez, Rick Porcello, and David Price. One of the best teams to never win it all; outdone by two grand slams by my Red Sox.
Votto has led league in OBP like 7 times that’s top 5 all time ... he’s popped up to first base once and hitting 524 against the three inductees from this years class
Buster Posey, Brian McCann, Jon Lester, Madison Bumgardner, and maybe Robinson Cano to name a few that were missed. Overall a great list, though! Thanks for adding Joey btw (Reds fan here)
No Buster Posey? 3 World Series rings, NL MVP, ROY, all star appearances. And the amount of no hitters/perfect games he's caught is no coincidence either.
Don't forget mad bum 3 rings and world series mvp very low postseason era a complete game shut out vs Mets and royals great hitting pitcher and a all-star as well 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
2011 Verlander wins CY Young and MVP and Cabrera wins batting title. 2012 Cabrera wins MVP and triple crown. Verlander is second place in close CY Young race. 2013 was their best team in this run. Cabrera with the best season of his career wins another MVP and Scherzer wins the CY Young award.
I’m a reds fan so I’m glad someone is recognizing Joey vottos career even though this year is a big off year again making great videos keep up the great work
Votto is having one of his best years in 2021. Today is August 15th. He has 316 ABs, 26 HRs, 75 RBIs His SLG & OBS are higher than his career average. He is batting .285 and even has a SB. He has been one of, if not the, hottest hitters since the AS break. Since the break, he has 15HRs and his OPS is 1.293. He is swinging the bat great this year and the Reds are making a run for a Wild Card spot. They are 8 over .500 and 2.5 behind SlamDiego for the WC.
I definitely agree with that list, a few players that aren’t exactly first ballot but I think Yadi is a HOF, he and Albert were the heart of the Cardinals lineup for years and both of them deserve to be in the Hall, you may have changed my mind about Scherzer, I thought because of his late start he may not have a chance but definitely deserving
I think yadi is a hofer, also I think you meant Verlander instead of Kershaw at 7:29, and Votto won the mvp in 2010, not 2005, heck i dont even know if votto had made his debut in 2005!
@@willsteele5751 Wins above replacement. It estimates a player's contribution to his team in terms of games won because of his offensive output or defensive skills. But, there's no established formula to calculate it officially. Cody Bellinger is the current WAR leader with 6.8, followed by Mike Trout (6.2) and Mike Minor (6.1).
Molina brings the Championship home....as a Cardinal fan I do believe his work with the pitching staff and general professional demeanor is the main reasons the Cards have won any WS in my life....put this man in the Hall
I've always said Votto is so underappreciated. Maybe it's because he plays in Cinci but man he's such a great ball player. The fact that he popped out to first base for the first time in 6,829 plate appearances last year is insane
@@judahdarwin4871 I just realized i made that mistake XD, i meant with his bat, now he is a great defensive catcher, and his offensive numbers are not "bad" they are average. He had a .285 average 2 seasons ago, last year im not really gonna count because he had to get surgery
@@JuBeoN Well his numbers besides this year have been great. Not his overall average but average with runners in scoring position, his OPS was really good, and he used to not swing at bad pitches. He was a super hard out. Now he's different but i suspect he'll bounce back soon.
Yadi is definitely a hall of famer, he is St. Louis’s favorite player all time and if you spend time watching him he is one of the smartest players and is great at getting hits when needed and not always swinging for the fences
I probably agree that Yadi gets in eventually, but using the reasoning that he's "STL favorite player of all time" is not a good argument for a HOF. Also just being smart doesn't get you HOF points - there's been a ton of smart players in the league that don't sniff the HOF
He has had a hall of fame career stayed with 1 team preventing steals could crack home runs when he could hit every pitcher respects him all the fans love him he has countless awards he got it
Well let's see Pujols not a tiger Trout not a tiger Kershaw not a tiger Molina not a tiger Joey Votto not a tiger Greinke not a tiger It doesn't seem like many of them were tigers.
You should add Madison Bumgarner one of the most dominate World Series pitching display ever and one of the best post season winning pitchers and he’s actually a really good batter as a pitcher. I agree everyone on the list idk who you would replace for him but that’s my opinion
Iconic IQ Because, his anger issues and his regular season stats are shit. If you have a good dominant performance in the Post Season, that’s great, but you have to continue to do that for almost every single season for at least 7 years.
@@baseballcentral5355 His regular season stats aren't shit? I mean idk what youre looking at. He isn't as flashy but consistently goes out and can give 7-9 innings every single game. he also doesn't have anger issues. its called passion. I mean everyone thinks its cool for a batter to break a bat over his leg but when a pitcher yells, OMG he's such a dick!
He has better career WAR than Molina. He’s been been as good if not better than Molina defensively. If Molina is making it, posey will definitely make it. He’s just a better player.
He is the reason we have no real catchers coming up in any farm system. He could have been the next Piazza if he wasn't such a pussy. Look at all the videos where he doesn't step up for his pitchers. The Posey rule is crap. When you're trying to score and there is someone in your way, you should be able to get that run doing whatever it takes. Catchers have gear runners don't. Baseball is not fun without the play at the plate. We used to be trained to take hits at home. What happened with Posey? It's all about protecting your financial investment now. Nothing else.
Madison Bumgarner is arguably the best World Series pitcher of all time. Dude put on a show every time he walked out on the mound and still does. And he’s also a great hitter, he’s a for sure HOFer
On one hand, Pujuls is not worth his current contract, but on the other hand he's still driving in lots of runs despite his age, bad wheels, etc. He has more career RBI than Gehrig, Musial, Foxx, et al. That says it all, in my book.
What are people's opinions of Buster Posey potentially being in the Hall. Pretty fantastic offensive numbers for a catcher and consistently one of the top defensive catchers.
Joey Votto is a lock for HOF, hes a great hitter and hasn't settled into his later career role. But the dude is finding his timing and will definitely finish this season around a .300 average like most seasons.
Agree with you there, Rizzo is a force to be reckoned, with a bat or a glove hes awesome and on top of ability hes not a douche. That goes further for me than skill sometimes.
????? Votto?? Tail end of his career he has less than 2,000 career hits, less than 300 career home runs, and less than 1,000 career rbi. He has the walks, OBP, and a decent .308 average. That’s it. No batting titles. 1 MVP. No postseason accolades. A whopping 1 gold glove. Its not the hall of really good. It’s the hall of fame. To even call him a lock is a fucking joke.
7:27 - a patch in Kershaw's career with the Tigers, eh? Verlander's one of those weird elements. He possesses perhaps the only impossible inning ever pitched (the one where he persistently climbs 2-3 MPH every pitch at the end of a game to destroy the side) and his revitalization in Houston is insane. One might say he's a *fine wine* . I can agree with the numbers for each person on this list, though.
Verlander’s absolutely a lock, and will likely be in sooner rather than later based purely on longevity - i.e. he might retire rather soon, definitely before Scherzer.
Here’s s vid idea, players that don’t deserve to be in the HALL OF FAME. Talk about starting some fires....but is Marc brave enough for such a video????
GamingGeek 820 Albert Pujols used to be good and he’s definitely gonna be in the hall of fame so I bet buster will also be in the hall of fame he was a leader in the giants winning the World Series
The top 8 I totally agree with...Yady is one of the best defensive catchers ever but is average on offense...Votto might need the longevity, he needs a few more good years Here's a few guys that have done great but need a little more help also...Goldy, Stanton, Bauer, Kimbrel, Arenado And here's a few with a good start but need another 5 years to see if they can keep the pace... Blackmon, Story, Strasburg, Harper, Cole I did some research on pitchers...figuring age, averaging 15 wins until age 38 and 13 after that, ERA, and strikouts...Kershaw, Verlander, and Scherzer should all get to 250-275 wins which should get them into the Hall...Verlander might get up to 3rd and Scherzer 4th-6th all-time in strikeouts...they will make the HOF Cole needs time and a few big years...with Strasburg and Bauer, age and missed time come into play, they might barely get 200, maybe 225 wins
I think Joey Votto would easily make the HOF if he retired today. He's currently the 17th highest OBP in major league history with a .4213. Highest OBP among active players, with the second being Mike Trout at .4188, both of whom are comfortably above the next highest active player, Cabrera at .3922. He's also 27th in OPS in major league history at .9407, 2nd among active players behind Mike Trout (and higher than Albert Pujols and Miguel Cabrera). He lags behind a little bit in Slugging, but he's still 64th in major league history there, with a .5194. He does fall behind Trout, Pujols, Stanton, Arenado, Cabrera, Martinez, Braun, Nelson Cruz and Goldschmidt among active players, however. But power wasn't even really his game and he still ranks among the best all time.
Never forget the AL Central had Max scherzer Justin verlander Zach greinke Corey kluber David price Mark buehrle Chris Sale And johan Santana’s All at one time
What about Buster Posey? Do you think he’s not going to make it, or is it just he wouldn’t if he retired today? I think it’s 50/50 if he retired today but for sure by the end of his career
Yadi also has an incredible eye at the plate, early in his career he pretty much never struck out, and he’s never had even close to 100 strikeouts in a season. HOF for sure
If their was an extended list I would probably put Buster Posey, Javy Baez (if he continues his performance), Christian Yelich, Cody Bellinger if they both continue like Javy, and Max Scherzer
What is up with you people? Postseason career has nothing to do with the Hall of Fame. Bumgarner is a great postseason picture. And there's nothing special about his career stats in the regular season. Finally one other player in the Hall of Fame who doesn't have earth-shattering regular season stats. No one goes to the hall of fame for the postseason stats. Only people who are almost in the Hall of Fame in the regular career and then have amazing postseason careers, sometimes get the extra inch and ich their way into the Hall. Bumgarner has average career stats. Go look up his career stats and you'll see I'm right.
I'll take Bumgarner's career over Kershaw even if Bumgarner doesn't get into the Hall. And to be honest Kershaw can't shut teams down when it matters most.
Frank Woods Votto could have 4 MVPs right now. 2010, was on pace in 2012 to win before he got injured, 2015 the only guy standing in his way was Harper, and in 2017 he got completely robbed. Hell, in Cincinnati we still claim he was the 2017 NL MVP.
Did I just go out of the room and miss the nomination of Ichiro Suzuki? How is he not first or second on this list? He's a lock to be in the HOF on the first ballot. Sheesh!
Yung_Grouch bro, ...Trout is not even done with half of his career and he put up those numbers. That’s insane. He’s probably the best player to play the game. Of course his numbers aren’t high now, but by the end of his career they’ll be up there.
BananaMan9672 ok but the point of video is whoever retires right now at the moment will get in with their number and those are his, obviously he will attain wayyyy bigger number but rn trout isn’t a hall of gamer and calm down on him being the greatest ever stop it way to many players throughout history and many 5 tool players. You’re being a prisoner of the moment.
So all of the sudden we are gonna act like these balls are not juiced. Shit even Verlander said this game is a joke now because how the MLB changed the ball so more homeruns are hit
Wow Dude I’m a Phillies fan but Cole is definitely the worst out of those three. His peak wasn’t quite as good as theirs. Still an excellent career though.
inyourfacevideos96 I’m huge Phillies fan from philly and Cole has had a really good solid career but not hall of fame he never had those big Cy Young Type years I think 2011 he was 5 but that year cliff lee and Roy hallsday were also 2,3 in Cy Young also that’s Kershaw first Cy Young year. Speaking of I think Kershaw should won 2017 Cy Young over max more wins better era only little less Ks and innings and Kershaw shouldn’t beat dicky in 2012 and maybe even beat arrietta in 2015 idk just saying Kershaw is crazy great lifetime era at 2.4 that’s unheard of
Great video. As for the players you mentioned, I agree with nine of them. Votto is still a question for me - I think he will get in if he has a couple more productive years though, and he's a good dude. I like that you included Molina.... He has favorable stats when compared to Ozzie Smith, and Ozzie got in based upon his defensive prowess. Molina is also great on D, so he's in.
If you ask the same question 15 years ago, Trout is no HOF yet. He has less than 300 HR, not even 800 RBI and his career avg of .306 is not elite level as many HOF hitters avg well over .300 during their prime years as well. Need at least 400 HR and 1300 RBI to start the HOF talk old days. Same goes for many pitchers mentioned here as guys with 250W 2500K could not get into the Hall before but nowadays, perception of pitchers changed a lot.
@@MuthafuckinPuddings it's literally against the rules. If someone voted for him, their ballots would've been thrown out. The only time the 10 year rule has been waived was for a guy who died after his 9th season
@@dkroll92 I feel like they would waive it for Trout though, if for some reason he didn't play his 10th season. You can't have a guy with 3 MVPs not make the HOF if they haven't been suspected of cheating like Arod or Bonds.
@@MuthafuckinPuddings I mean, Lefty O'Doul played 7 seasons and has a career batting average over .340 and a career OPS over .940 and he's not in. They have rules for a reason. The BBWA considers longevity part of being a Hall of Famer.
@@robertcampbell8070 True. But Lefty played in an era where those numbers aren't as impressive as they are today. Also, he has a career rWAR of 25, whereas Trout is sitting around 72. You can't really compare the two.
Hi. First of all let me tell you that I love your videos and please keep up the good work. I would like to ask you something though. I love baseball but I live in France which means I don't get to see loads of content on this sport. I discovered it last year and I kinda fell in love with it. I have only a problem, the stats. Indeed at first I didn't get any of'em. Now, by listening to commentators and youtubers and so on and so forth I got the hang on some of them. But there are so many I don't know or don't understand. Could you please make a video or several videos explaining each stat ? I would really appreciate it. I didn't know who to ask and then I discovered your channel. Thank you anyway and keep the videos coming.
No one:
Absolutely no one:
Marc: Justin Verlander is like a fine wine!
Elijah Nelson-Brantley that got me dying😂😂😂😂😂😂😉
Me: looks at this comment
Me: that makes no sense
:Me reads more
:Me OOH
Pretty sure fuzzy called him that
He said he was Kershaw
Novaruu go mind your business somewhere else and stop being rude
It’s crazy to think the tigers had David price, max scherzer and Justin verlander at the same time
And now 35-80 lowest record in baseball as of August 12th 2019. Weird couple of years to be a Tigers fan.
And we still couldnt win a title smh and we had miggy as well our bullpen was our downfall
Zeep i know, i’m one myself... tough times
There 2013 roster stacked. Rotation was Verlander, Scherzer, Anibal Sanchez, Rick Porcello, and David Price.
One of the best teams to never win it all; outdone by two grand slams by my Red Sox.
@@jaybrick8973 Dombrowski has never valued the bullpen. Retread and low budget arms at every stop.
Can you do best players not in the hall of fame
THE SASSY G7 agree
Pete Rose
@@tommyellis7728 he isnt even allowed in the mlb except for the reds hall of fame
mike hawk and nick kerr
Pete Rose
In my opinion yadi is definitely a hall of famer
Boricua ,
100% same with posey
Yessssssssss
Yadier Molina is a hall of famer, this is coming from a Cubs fan
CabooseCubsFan 1744 I agree. I also think Contreras could be if he stays as good
Also a cubs fan
CabooseCubsFan 1744 I’m a dodger fan and believe there’s no catcher like Molina he is one scary guy.
Anthony Rizzo is a hall of Famer, this is coming from a Cardinals fan
Natey Greaty
Contreras won’t be, I’m sorry. He’s not good enough.
I hope ichiro becomes a hof legend
He is
royal darknight it’s not official
I’m 100% certain he will
He is
Alexis Toro he definitely will be one
Votto has led league in OBP like 7 times that’s top 5 all time ... he’s popped up to first base once and hitting 524 against the three inductees from this years class
He’s only popped up to 1st once? Guaranteed unanimous first ballot.
@@TT-nh2od lefties dont pop out to first.
Buster Posey, Brian McCann, Jon Lester, Madison Bumgardner, and maybe Robinson Cano to name a few that were missed. Overall a great list, though! Thanks for adding Joey btw (Reds fan here)
Cano would for sure be if he didn't get that ped suspension
mccann no way, lester no, posey yes, canó would be if he wasn’t suspended, and bumfardner not yet
@@jaredbrinkman3343 lester aint a complete no
No Buster Posey? 3 World Series rings, NL MVP, ROY, all star appearances. And the amount of no hitters/perfect games he's caught is no coincidence either.
Don't forget mad bum 3 rings and world series mvp very low postseason era a complete game shut out vs Mets and royals great hitting pitcher and a all-star as well 🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
Tyler Burbeck yes thank you fore sure posey should be on the list and personality I believe that bum could be in the list too
Bum might go to ATL soon. Watch out !
Being a Giant's fan Buster Posey is not a hall of famer. Since his MVP season his numbers have gone down. Bumgarner on the other hand he will be in.
Will Russell ur right but he kind of is having a down year this year but yes he still is very good
No one
Not a single soul
Marc:
Mike trout could win the World Series by himself
Bul
How old are you
Bahahahhaha yet he hasn't so NO!
🤣🤣🤣🤣
I mean he's not wrong
Tigers had 3 future hofers in 2012 and couldn't win smh
truthseeker89 for life Verlander, Cabrera and what, Scherzer?
@@springerdinger4920 yes
Facts bro no excuses
2011 Verlander wins CY Young and MVP and Cabrera wins batting title. 2012 Cabrera wins MVP and triple crown. Verlander is second place in close CY Young race. 2013 was their best team in this run. Cabrera with the best season of his career wins another MVP and Scherzer wins the CY Young award.
That pitching staff was nasty
I agree with all your picks, and I'm glad you included Votto. Being a Reds fan, I know how good he's been and he definitely deserves to be in the hof.
Wait I forgot. What is Verlander like as he ages? I just can’t remember, it’s not like a Marc tells us every. single. video.
Liam Velasco fine wine get it right
@@juliosuarez2973 happy now?
You said Kershaw during the Verlander sement
That's what i thought😂😂
I’m a reds fan so I’m glad someone is recognizing Joey vottos career even though this year is a big off year again making great videos keep up the great work
Votto is having one of his best years in 2021. Today is August 15th. He has 316 ABs, 26 HRs, 75 RBIs His SLG & OBS are higher than his career average. He is batting .285 and even has a SB. He has been one of, if not the, hottest hitters since the AS break. Since the break, he has 15HRs and his OPS is 1.293. He is swinging the bat great this year and the Reds are making a run for a Wild Card spot. They are 8 over .500 and 2.5 behind SlamDiego for the WC.
As a HUGE Greinke fan from his KC days to his current AZ days, I'm tickled pink hearing praise for his accolades. Very appreciated!
3 current players that are HOFers and we lost in the WS. OOOOOOFFF
yeah man,its hard to be a tigers fan rn
giants are just better 😂
as a tigers fan its rough rn
Damn it’s been hard.
People don’t give enough credit to Leyland at the same time. Those teams were legendary tho
I would be stressed if i was mike trout, being second in mvp votings four times
i wouldnt cause id be the best player in baseball
Got Emmm I don’t think he’s worrying about it
425 million
@7:29, when talking about Justin Verlander, you said "There was definitely a patch in KERSHAW'S career". No biggie just stating the error.
I definitely agree with that list, a few players that aren’t exactly first ballot but I think Yadi is a HOF, he and Albert were the heart of the Cardinals lineup for years and both of them deserve to be in the Hall, you may have changed my mind about Scherzer, I thought because of his late start he may not have a chance but definitely deserving
I think yadi is a hofer, also I think you meant Verlander instead of Kershaw at 7:29, and Votto won the mvp in 2010, not 2005, heck i dont even know if votto had made his debut in 2005!
Con Pop yadi is a hof already
@@malachiboxdorfer7638 i know
Votto debuted in 2007
I also noticed the slip at 728
Con Pop agreed yadi is most likely a hofer
It makes me laugh when u try to talk about WAR
What even is WAR
@@willsteele5751 wins above replacement
@@willsteele5751 Wins above replacement. It estimates a player's contribution to his team in terms of games won because of his offensive output or defensive skills. But, there's no established formula to calculate it officially. Cody Bellinger is the current WAR leader with 6.8, followed by Mike Trout (6.2) and Mike Minor (6.1).
"WAR what is it good for?.. absolutely nothing"
@@Ibhenriksen
Ah hallelujah!
Molina brings the Championship home....as a Cardinal fan I do believe his work with the pitching staff and general professional demeanor is the main reasons the Cards have won any WS in my life....put this man in the Hall
Remember you have to play ten years to be eligible for induction into the HOF
That’s one reason I discount Trout. It’s too early. But, he’ll get in...
Marc can you do 10 prospects that you think that could be stars
He will bet
So glad you put Votto on this list. One of the smartest hitters ever.
Alex Laird I agree. He's a complete unselfish player. Team first.
I've always said Votto is so underappreciated. Maybe it's because he plays in Cinci but man he's such a great ball player. The fact that he popped out to first base for the first time in 6,829 plate appearances last year is insane
Now he is shit
Geez, Votto is a huge d--k, everybody's knows it lol
Posey is arguably a top 5 guaranteed HOFer if he ended his career right now shocked you missed him.
hate the giants but i think Buster Posey is no doubt in the hall
Thank you, very good catcher back in the earlier 2010's
@@JuBeoN He's a great catcher now. I mean not the best batter, but his defense is still really good.
@@judahdarwin4871 I just realized i made that mistake XD, i meant with his bat, now he is a great defensive catcher, and his offensive numbers are not "bad" they are average. He had a .285 average 2 seasons ago, last year im not really gonna count because he had to get surgery
@@JuBeoN Well his numbers besides this year have been great. Not his overall average but average with runners in scoring position, his OPS was really good, and he used to not swing at bad pitches. He was a super hard out. Now he's different but i suspect he'll bounce back soon.
@@judahdarwin4871 Yes definitely
Yadi is definitely a hall of famer, he is St. Louis’s favorite player all time and if you spend time watching him he is one of the smartest players and is great at getting hits when needed and not always swinging for the fences
Andrew Bodmer Image is great, but based off stats, he has a very low WAR compared to other HOF catchers as well as OPS and WRC+
I probably agree that Yadi gets in eventually, but using the reasoning that he's "STL favorite player of all time" is not a good argument for a HOF. Also just being smart doesn't get you HOF points - there's been a ton of smart players in the league that don't sniff the HOF
He has had a hall of fame career stayed with 1 team preventing steals could crack home runs when he could hit every pitcher respects him all the fans love him he has countless awards he got it
@MetalCrow448 If Yadier Molina were even half the player Stan Musial was, Yadier Molina wouldn't be a fringe case for the Hall of Fame.
How many of these players were tigers. Just proves this early century so far they were one of the best teams to not win a World Series.
Jack Bucholz after leyland left we turned to trash though
Well let's see
Pujols not a tiger
Trout not a tiger
Kershaw not a tiger
Molina not a tiger
Joey Votto not a tiger
Greinke not a tiger
It doesn't seem like many of them were tigers.
@@luisgomez7173 .Miguel Cabrera, Justin Verlander and Max Scherzer.
As a longtime tigers fan I’m still astonished we didn’t win a World Series considering we had Cabrera Scherzer and Verlander to name a few.
You should add Madison Bumgarner one of the most dominate World Series pitching display ever and one of the best post season winning pitchers and he’s actually a really good batter as a pitcher. I agree everyone on the list idk who you would replace for him but that’s my opinion
Iconic IQ
Because, his anger issues and his regular season stats are shit. If you have a good dominant performance in the Post Season, that’s great, but you have to continue to do that for almost every single season for at least 7 years.
@@baseballcentral5355 His regular season stats aren't shit? I mean idk what youre looking at. He isn't as flashy but consistently goes out and can give 7-9 innings every single game. he also doesn't have anger issues. its called passion. I mean everyone thinks its cool for a batter to break a bat over his leg but when a pitcher yells, OMG he's such a dick!
Buster Posey should hands down be on this list. He may not be amazing now but he is the best overall catcher of the 2010’s by far
He has better career WAR than Molina. He’s been been as good if not better than Molina defensively. If Molina is making it, posey will definitely make it. He’s just a better player.
bendsomemetal Ford at hitting yes he is but Yadi will always be a better defensive catcher
Malachi Boxdorfer Why does posey have a higher career defensive war then?
Thomas Angelone he’s too young to tell rn
He is the reason we have no real catchers coming up in any farm system. He could have been the next Piazza if he wasn't such a pussy. Look at all the videos where he doesn't step up for his pitchers. The Posey rule is crap. When you're trying to score and there is someone in your way, you should be able to get that run doing whatever it takes. Catchers have gear runners don't. Baseball is not fun without the play at the plate. We used to be trained to take hits at home. What happened with Posey? It's all about protecting your financial investment now. Nothing else.
7:29 kershaw? Don’t you mean Verlander? Great video though Marc 👌
hi heard that to
Madison Bumgarner is arguably the best World Series pitcher of all time. Dude put on a show every time he walked out on the mound and still does. And he’s also a great hitter, he’s a for sure HOFer
love to see Pujols still producing. he’s still got some power and is amazing with RISP.. not worth the contract but oh well it’s only 2 more years
On one hand, Pujuls is not worth his current contract, but on the other hand he's still driving in lots of runs despite his age, bad wheels, etc. He has more career RBI than Gehrig, Musial, Foxx, et al. That says it all, in my book.
Indeed. 93 rbi's on a crap team is amazing.
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I’m thinking Buster Posey what you all think?
I would agree for sure posey HOF
Mario Sml/Sll giants fan too and he should be in the hall of fame
Timmy Su I’m a Yankees fan and I think posey is a hall of famer
Yes but power may be a problem
Posey after molina when people think catchers it usually goes yadi then their teams catcher posey was good but he dropped off
Jon Lester. Damn good career #'s. Almost 2300 K's, multiple WS rings, almost 200 wins, and he gave cancer the finger
Tucker James If Lester gets in, then Bret Saberhagen should be in.
I have Zack Greinke's autograph on a dollar bill. Favorite pitcher.
damn
What are people's opinions of Buster Posey potentially being in the Hall. Pretty fantastic offensive numbers for a catcher and consistently one of the top defensive catchers.
He has a better career war than Molina
He is a HOF
@@bendsomemetal because he can hit well. That's it
He’ll make it for sure he’s more decorated than some guys already in HOF
Well I think him and Molina will make the hof
Marc you should do a mlb logo tier list. Not based off of wins but off of how good the logo of their team is.
Henry Vincent why would marc put a logo higher or lower than another because they have more wins
I don’t know I just am the definition of STOOPID
Henry Vincent same lol
7:28 “There was definitely a patch in Kershaw’s career towards the end of his time with the Tigers”
hmmmmm 🤔 dunno about that
Great job! As a baseball nut for over 50 years, I keep up with these type of conversations. I could not agree more.
If Harold Baines is in the HOF then Dale Murphy should be too. Just sayin
Exactly
Huntr C exactly. You might as well give it to the steroid guys too
2 wrongs dont make a right, Baines does not belong in hall of fame, Murphy was a great player for a short time, rest of career was mediocre.
Tommy L true but at least he got 2 mvps so maybe he can get in
Marc as a sub since mlb 17 how do you not have at least 500k smh
Official SnagGod because people don’t subscribe to him
CEEDAY BOI unfortunately
Even though Chris Sale is having a rough 2019 he still should be in the hall of fame
Ayat Saleh Definitely and he will be.
Chris sale wont b first ballot 4 the hall of fame and he is not a shoe in like Kershaw wil b!
Max Scherzer and Justin Verlander were on the same team wow
Jim don’t forget miguel cabrera as well
giants behind buster posey swept em in 2012
The Detroit TIGERS
Young baseball fans be like:
“WhErE’s BrYcE hArPeR?!”
Lmaoooo
Where is harper😁😂😁😂😁😂😁
So... is it right if I ask “where is Mad Bumgarner”?
@@edwinolguin2916 he's mad somehwere
@James Epstein 😂
Joey Votto is a lock for HOF, hes a great hitter and hasn't settled into his later career role. But the dude is finding his timing and will definitely finish this season around a .300 average like most seasons.
Eric Boggs wouldn’t say lock but a def has a chance at the second maybe third ballot
Eric Boggs Rizzo will be there too. I see his consistency and primeum glove getting him there.
Agree with you there, Rizzo is a force to be reckoned, with a bat or a glove hes awesome and on top of ability hes not a douche. That goes further for me than skill sometimes.
Eric Boggs Paul Goldshmidt will also probably get in with his defense and offense. He is just so consistent.
????? Votto?? Tail end of his career he has less than 2,000 career hits, less than 300 career home runs, and less than 1,000 career rbi. He has the walks, OBP, and a decent .308 average. That’s it. No batting titles. 1 MVP. No postseason accolades. A whopping 1 gold glove. Its not the hall of really good. It’s the hall of fame. To even call him a lock is a fucking joke.
Kershaw is a Hall of Famer in the regular season only. In the post season he gets lit up like a pinball machine.
9-10 my guy he's not that bad lmao
I feel like Nelson Cruz could also be on this list.
Me: Hey-
Marc: FORMER UNIVERSITY SOUTH CAROLINA GAMECOCK!
I haven’t watched it but I already know Chris Davis is on it
At his prime hellz yeah
@Mason Clark why not? he's way better than that micheal fish guy
Mason Clark why you be mean it’s just a comment
@@jimweb854 😂😂😂😂
FC7 Lfire he wasn’t being mean at all but ok
I think outside of this season you could argue Chris Sale. He’s still got a few years left though so we’ll see
7:27 - a patch in Kershaw's career with the Tigers, eh?
Verlander's one of those weird elements. He possesses perhaps the only impossible inning ever pitched (the one where he persistently climbs 2-3 MPH every pitch at the end of a game to destroy the side) and his revitalization in Houston is insane. One might say he's a *fine wine* .
I can agree with the numbers for each person on this list, though.
Verlander’s absolutely a lock, and will likely be in sooner rather than later based purely on longevity - i.e. he might retire rather soon, definitely before Scherzer.
You should do a tier list of every postseason
I really want Marc to hit 100k by then of July. Your putting up great content
My list (before watching)
1. CC
2. Verlander
3. Miguel Cabrera
4. Pujols
5. Trout
6. Price
7. Yady
8. Kershaw
9. Buster Posey
10. Scherzer
With Cano, Votto, Grenkie, Altuve, and McCann barely missing the cut.
I hope this list isn't your order of who deserves it the most
Trump Supporter it’s not 😂😂😂
@@BoardandArrow oh ok
Here’s s vid idea, players that don’t deserve to be in the HALL OF FAME. Talk about starting some fires....but is Marc brave enough for such a video????
I honestly think Buster Posey would be a hall of Famer if he retired now
@@gamerlife4276 still has accomplished more then most in the HOF and has more hardware
@@gamerlife4276 he's a catcher, it's hard to play long as a catcher because your knees will be fucked up
GamingGeek 820 Albert Pujols used to be good and he’s definitely gonna be in the hall of fame so I bet buster will also be in the hall of fame he was a leader in the giants winning the World Series
Not really he’s only had 5 great years he’s kinda average now
BenSnipes _ you’re obviously gonna say that since you’re a cards fan bum
What about Paul Goldschmidt
Harrison Todd fr
how do you not include any players from the giants team that won 3 World Series in 5 years?
Main reason how many of those players stayed that time, did good, stands out, and has a fantastic history
The top 8 I totally agree with...Yady is one of the best defensive catchers ever but is average on offense...Votto might need the longevity, he needs a few more good years
Here's a few guys that have done great but need a little more help also...Goldy, Stanton, Bauer, Kimbrel, Arenado
And here's a few with a good start but need another 5 years to see if they can keep the pace... Blackmon, Story, Strasburg, Harper, Cole
I did some research on pitchers...figuring age, averaging 15 wins until age 38 and 13 after that, ERA, and strikouts...Kershaw, Verlander, and Scherzer should all get to 250-275 wins which should get them into the Hall...Verlander might get up to 3rd and Scherzer 4th-6th all-time in strikeouts...they will make the HOF
Cole needs time and a few big years...with Strasburg and Bauer, age and missed time come into play, they might barely get 200, maybe 225 wins
This man really picked Votto over Posey for hall of fame 🥴
TeresitoR I totally agree with him
tbh both of them i think are hof players
IKR
I didn’t know Kershaw played for the tigers.
He did not
Ben Severence Marc said he did, which means it’s fax
Angel Hernandez he messed up his wording he meant to say Verlander
I’d say Robinson Cano.... .303 average for a career, over 300 home runs solid defense (for the most part) I’d also think Josh Donaldson has a shot
I think Joey Votto would easily make the HOF if he retired today. He's currently the 17th highest OBP in major league history with a .4213. Highest OBP among active players, with the second being Mike Trout at .4188, both of whom are comfortably above the next highest active player, Cabrera at .3922.
He's also 27th in OPS in major league history at .9407, 2nd among active players behind Mike Trout (and higher than Albert Pujols and Miguel Cabrera).
He lags behind a little bit in Slugging, but he's still 64th in major league history there, with a .5194. He does fall behind Trout, Pujols, Stanton, Arenado, Cabrera, Martinez, Braun, Nelson Cruz and Goldschmidt among active players, however. But power wasn't even really his game and he still ranks among the best all time.
Never forget the AL Central had
Max scherzer
Justin verlander
Zach greinke
Corey kluber
David price
Mark buehrle
Chris Sale
And johan Santana’s
All at one time
Don’t forget about Chris sale
Daniel Brady you’re right!!
@Collin Ryan but price was still with the rays
I completely agree with your opinion on Molina bc he is one of my favorite players and doesn’t get enough respect for how good of a catcher he his.
The pitchers said for most of yadis career they hate to pitch to him
What about Buster Posey? Do you think he’s not going to make it, or is it just he wouldn’t if he retired today? I think it’s 50/50 if he retired today but for sure by the end of his career
It's really iffy
daddy pig 69 false. Posey is the goat
@@indigenousindustries9124 no it's really the babe mabey Posey top 200 players off all time
Yadi also has an incredible eye at the plate, early in his career he pretty much never struck out, and he’s never had even close to 100 strikeouts in a season. HOF for sure
You should rank the top 25 or 30 players that are 25 or under
Tatis Jr.
Robel Garcia
Acuna jr.
Belli
Go Chiefs!!! #chiefskingdom
Honestly if Omar Vizquel isn’t a HOFer I don’t think yadi should be either. I think they’re both HOFers though
I agree
If their was an extended list I would probably put Buster Posey, Javy Baez (if he continues his performance), Christian Yelich, Cody Bellinger if they both continue like Javy, and Max Scherzer
Javy 😂😂😂
No madison Bumgarner? So his playoff performance was not the best of all time?
exactly. "kershaws the best lefty ever" nah its bum lmao
What is up with you people? Postseason career has nothing to do with the Hall of Fame. Bumgarner is a great postseason picture. And there's nothing special about his career stats in the regular season. Finally one other player in the Hall of Fame who doesn't have earth-shattering regular season stats. No one goes to the hall of fame for the postseason stats. Only people who are almost in the Hall of Fame in the regular career and then have amazing postseason careers, sometimes get the extra inch and ich their way into the Hall. Bumgarner has average career stats. Go look up his career stats and you'll see I'm right.
@@michaelll6t967 no he isnt hahahahahahaha Kershaw is way better go look at his regular season stats throughout career compared to Madison.
i cant tell if this is a troll post or not
@@benjaminsehr2566 at least Bum has rings not like Kershaw pitching in Choketober🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
I think madbum can make it into the hof if he can keep getting into the postseason and pitch like he always does in the postseason
I'll take Bumgarner's career over Kershaw even if Bumgarner doesn't get into the Hall. And to be honest Kershaw can't shut teams down when it matters most.
Your the best Marc, what do you think about the Giants hot streak?
Im a dodger fan and i hate it, its really nothing personal i just hate the giants.Its in my blood
Im an A's fan and I hate the Giants
AdiSmarts I wouldn’t call scoring less than 4 runs in their last 4 games a hot streak
Votto won MVP 2010 and missed it in 2017 by 2 votes votto started career 2007
Frank Woods Votto could have 4 MVPs right now. 2010, was on pace in 2012 to win before he got injured, 2015 the only guy standing in his way was Harper, and in 2017 he got completely robbed. Hell, in Cincinnati we still claim he was the 2017 NL MVP.
Andrew Hale Bob Nightingale gave him a 5th place for which completely screwed him
Did I just go out of the room and miss the nomination of Ichiro Suzuki? How is he not first or second on this list? He's a lock to be in the HOF on the first ballot. Sheesh!
What about Wainwright? He's had a good career.
Ryan Berner as a cards fan, he’s had a great career but I don’t think it’s good enough for MLB HOF. Definitely cards hall of fame though
@@ryanroentz7005 It's impossible to tell if Waino would have a good or bad start. Mikolas is much the same.
MrGOOMBAGUY as of late yeah, but earlier in his career he was a beast
Ryan Roentz i agree as a cards fan he was great up until 2012 when got hurt and it’s been a bumpy road since cards hof def but idk about mlb hof
Nope. Not enough wins and injured way to much
I would take Buster Posey before Molina
Nope fans and players say different yadi first posey would b better as a first base man
Where’s my Cardinals fans at!
You have to do mascot tier list video! I don’t care if stadiums is the last one. We have to do it!
If you think that Mike Trout isn’t a HOF, you need to fade into dust
1285 hit 272 homers 727 RBIs are HOF Numbers???? Lmao please stop
Yung_Grouch bro, ...Trout is not even done with half of his career and he put up those numbers. That’s insane. He’s probably the best player to play the game. Of course his numbers aren’t high now, but by the end of his career they’ll be up there.
BananaMan9672 ok but the point of video is whoever retires right now at the moment will get in with their number and those are his, obviously he will attain wayyyy bigger number but rn trout isn’t a hall of gamer and calm down on him being the greatest ever stop it way to many players throughout history and many 5 tool players. You’re being a prisoner of the moment.
MrUHOH415 mike trout doesn’t need to be voting in just put him in already while he still playing
So all of the sudden we are gonna act like these balls are not juiced. Shit even Verlander said this game is a joke now because how the MLB changed the ball so more homeruns are hit
Make a video on teams who can not make the playoffs and where they went wrong
Watching Yadi in the latest WBC. Perfect showcase for everyone of one of the 3 best catchers ever.
Mike Trout is putting up really good numbers but I feel that he needs a bit more seasons to be a first ballot
Buster Posey should be a HOF. Career WAR of 41.2, Career average of .303, was the leader of 3 WS teams
World series dont mean anything for the player its a team achievement personal awards is different
How about King Felix? Just not good enough for long enough or what?
He has very verrrrry similar stats to Greinke. I was thinking he'd be on this list.
Felix, Greinke and Cole Hamels stat lines are almost identical.
Wow Dude I’m a Phillies fan but Cole is definitely the worst out of those three. His peak wasn’t quite as good as theirs. Still an excellent career though.
I was thinking the same, he came in strong at a young age too
inyourfacevideos96 I’m huge Phillies fan from philly and Cole has had a really good solid career but not hall of fame he never had those big Cy Young Type years I think 2011 he was 5 but that year cliff lee and Roy hallsday were also 2,3 in Cy Young also that’s Kershaw first Cy Young year. Speaking of I think Kershaw should won 2017 Cy Young over max more wins better era only little less Ks and innings and Kershaw shouldn’t beat dicky in 2012 and maybe even beat arrietta in 2015 idk just saying Kershaw is crazy great lifetime era at 2.4 that’s unheard of
Like a fine wine, gets me everytime😂
Great video. As for the players you mentioned, I agree with nine of them. Votto is still a question for me - I think he will get in if he has a couple more productive years though, and he's a good dude. I like that you included Molina.... He has favorable stats when compared to Ozzie Smith, and Ozzie got in based upon his defensive prowess. Molina is also great on D, so he's in.
I know he is retired but Joe Mauer is definitely a Hall of Famer, he is one of the greatest hitting catchers of all time
dmar 02 it’s borderline for Mauer, not a shoo-in.
Thank you for saying Yadi is a HOF because no one talks about about his golden arm
Malachi Boxdorfer amen
So nobody gonna talk about buster posey? 3x world champ and an mvp
If you ask the same question 15 years ago, Trout is no HOF yet. He has less than 300 HR, not even 800 RBI and his career avg of .306 is not elite level as many HOF hitters avg well over .300 during their prime years as well. Need at least 400 HR and 1300 RBI to start the HOF talk old days. Same goes for many pitchers mentioned here as guys with 250W 2500K could not get into the Hall before but nowadays, perception of pitchers changed a lot.
Mike would not make the HOF, if he retired today.
A player must have played for 10 seasons to be eligible.
J D correct. His numbers are PLENTY good enough, he just needs the service time. Barring a career ending injury, he’s certainly getting in.
@@MuthafuckinPuddings it's literally against the rules. If someone voted for him, their ballots would've been thrown out. The only time the 10 year rule has been waived was for a guy who died after his 9th season
@@dkroll92 I feel like they would waive it for Trout though, if for some reason he didn't play his 10th season. You can't have a guy with 3 MVPs not make the HOF if they haven't been suspected of cheating like Arod or Bonds.
@@MuthafuckinPuddings I mean, Lefty O'Doul played 7 seasons and has a career batting average over .340 and a career OPS over .940 and he's not in. They have rules for a reason. The BBWA considers longevity part of being a Hall of Famer.
@@robertcampbell8070 True. But Lefty played in an era where those numbers aren't as impressive as they are today. Also, he has a career rWAR of 25, whereas Trout is sitting around 72. You can't really compare the two.
Controversial: Andrew McCutchen!
not yet
Back in his prime and stayed there for more than 5 seasons, yes
I wish the Hall of Fame was more stricter on who gets in
Exactly. It's supposed to be for all time greats, not good to very good players.
Hi.
First of all let me tell you that I love your videos and please keep up the good work. I would like to ask you something though. I love baseball but I live in France which means I don't get to see loads of content on this sport. I discovered it last year and I kinda fell in love with it. I have only a problem, the stats. Indeed at first I didn't get any of'em. Now, by listening to commentators and youtubers and so on and so forth I got the hang on some of them. But there are so many I don't know or don't understand. Could you please make a video or several videos explaining each stat ? I would really appreciate it. I didn't know who to ask and then I discovered your channel. Thank you anyway and keep the videos coming.