How to Make Descaling Solution at Home | Breville Espresso Machine
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Ive used distilled vinegar for descaling my espresso & coffe pots for over 25 years, but realized we were almost out of vinegar, but had citric acid which I figured woukd have been safe. As I thought about it I remeber a commercial descaler we used at a coffee house was composed of citric acid. Descaling now & noticing a good amount of scale in the catch badin so clearly it works & likely better than vinegar.
Hi Hoon. I just saw your video about descaling process and I would like to share with you that at least here in Brazil Breville recommend to use Vinager to descale the coffee machine. This recommendation is written in user guide.
Citric acid can be found in the canning/preserving section of most grocery stores. A 7.5 ounce, $6 jar will go a long way.
the technicians don't want us doing it 'cause they're sick of fixing peoples machine where people have descaled and cooked their boilers up....so make sure to always in descaling we are filling the boiler as we flush out the citric acid. Thanks Hoon.
I do the descaling with 50/50 vinegar and water. No need for expensive products. Vinegar is non toxic as well and environmental friendly.
its brilliant .. cleans every thing ... esp water kettles ... never had an issue with it .. & costs nothing - thats why they dont wont you to use it...
Dont use that in a coffey machine. It destroys plastic parts
No exactly environment friendly. It takes 55 litres of water to dilute 1 litre of vinegar vs 5 litres of water to a litre of citric acid solution
I used 100% undiluted white vinegar in my humidifier, let it sit for hrs, and then scrub… it only removed about half the calcium build up, which lead me to looking into diy descaler
Acetic acid in vinegar will eat and obliterate your gaskets. Citric acid is not as strong as acetic acid.
Great Idea ! Thank you!
I too use vinegar, works fine
Vinegar eats aluminum which the heating vessel is made of. It will eventually eat through and leak.
Ive used vinegar in mine and ive had no issues. I dillute it half and half.
I’ve always used 40/60 vinegar. To water. But after years. The vinegar dried out the hose and the machine then gets replaced. Trying citrus acid now.
Hey Hoon! Has this process still worked for you? Have you changed anything over the year
Thanks for sharing!
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I read that one problem with venagar is could leave a residue that you can taste.
Lemishine works excellent too. It’s a dishwasher descaler and it works wonders. It took a nasty SS dishwasher and made it look brand spanking new on the inside.
Makes sense since the main ingredient of lemishine is likely citric acid. Lemishine is not safe to ingest however, I would stick with citric acid.
Thank you
Good/cheap cleaning tips - thx Hoon!
Hoon ...Vinegar is not strong enough and yo don't want the smell ....ctric acid 30 gms to i litre water...mix run through to replace old water in your boiler and lines...turn off and leave for say an hour...now turn back on and run through say 2 litres to clean out....use the steam wand it's higher in the boiler
This gentleman is absolutely correct. Vinegar not only is retained in the difficult to remove scales maintaining the strong odor. I stopped using vinegar when I ruined my sprayer as it chewed up the neoprene rubber valve, only VITON rubber valves and O rings inside your automatic coffee maker will survive vinegar attack and I am not sure if your fancy automatic coffee machines have these expensive VITON components inside , this means that it is only OK to use vinegar in regular coffee pots. I'll choose citric acid instead for my automatic unit.
hi! did you use only vinegar or did you dilute it with water? if so, what ratio did you use? thx!
@@blahblah8372 As I had mentioned I only used 50/50 vinegar/water in coffee pots and ordinary coffee makers that do not have any rubber components like automatic coffee machines-For these auto machines like Breville I use 1 TBSP of citric acid per 1 liter of water as a descale solution, never vinegar.
@@fferes2163 Thanks. But my cheap espresso machine started leaking after using citric acid. Help! The rubber o-ring basically melted.
There are tables you can find online which show the effect of vinegar vs citric acid on o rings made of different materials. Citric acid was definitely safer to use compared to vinegar in that it affected the least kinds of materials.
My breville won’t froth milk, it barely gives any hot water out the hot water spout and it won’t make a shot of coffee it has no pressure I’ve tried cleaning and descaling it but w no pressure I feel like if that was problem it can’t clean properly my cleaning light is not on either but was trying to figure out what is wrong. I was wondering do you have any ideas on what could be wrong or what I can do to fix my 1 year old machine. I’m so sad wout my breville everyday and would appreciate any advice or ideas you have to offer Thanks and I have appreciated learning how to make a perfect espresso and how to use my machine properly I hope you can help w this too🤞🏼
it can be the 2 way valve that need to be replaced or the pump itself rebuilt or replace
Hello hoon! How are you? Can you tell me if I can use different 58mm portafilter on rancilio Silvia?
It may not work with E61 group.
Hoon....the citric acid cam't work on the lines and limescale just running it through..you have to let it sit, machine off. for say an hour i leave my rancillio for 2 it can't do any harm....but it's not like a group head flush it needs time to sit and work on the scale....
You're right.
How many repeat cycles are recommended or is it just the one time running out the tank?
Just ran out of water and replace with clean water to flush.
Why did you link to the Cafiza E16 (1.2g) vs the E31 (2g) Cleaning Tablets ? I have struggling to decide which one to get myself. Thanks !
Cleaning tab for the clean me cycle.
@@HoonsCoffee yes I know what Cafiza tablets are but why did you chose to link the e16 (1.2g) vs the e31 (2g) tablets ? I was under impression that the 2g size were better ?
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Is citric acid the same thing as lemon salt? I only found lemon salt here in Saudi Arabia & I'm not sure if they work exactly the same.
Citric acid is called 'lemon salt' in Hebrew. I'm guessing it's the same thing in Saudi Arabia.
Hi Hoon can you send me the link for the scales that you used today
This is Lunar scale from Acaia. www.seattlecoffeegear.com/acaia-lunar-smart-espresso-scale
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What about barista machines that only have the clean me option? Is the procedure the same?
Clean me option is different from descale. ua-cam.com/video/kZPPjT4hSPk/v-deo.html
When you do decals or flush the machine?
Check out his video ua-cam.com/video/4V2wKRmo858/v-deo.html
Citric acid is only expensive in small packs like that. The same company sells 10lb's for 44$ or 1lb for 12$.... Um..... yeah.... buy the big one and it will last a lifetime..
Never vinegar. Citric acid and water.
Citric acid using is a 3.5% not 1.0% as you do
So I did 1%….will that not work?! UGH
Back in the days iTs was good but not I wil not use it for my machine
Personally, I'm going to use Breville or more specifically Breville's approved sub (OEM) manufacturer's products especially when it comes to chemicals or filters used to treat the water or descaling.
It depends upon the components in your broiler's walls, citric acid is a corrosion inhibitor to aluminum whereas acetic acid (vinegar) can cause corrosion to aluminum. My advice is to find out exactly the type of acid or acids recommended for your particular coffee machine.
To my understanding, Breville ($14/4 pack) uses a powdered citric acid and tartaric acid concentrate and Cafetto ($9/4 pack) is the manufacturer.
Examples I will only use Breville's water filter ($15/ea), OEM Cafetto Restore Espresso Machine Descaler ($2.25/ea) and Cino Cleano Espresso Machine Cleaning Tablet ($1/ea). Obviously there's cheaper stuff but start reading where people have actually damaged their machines are caused an assortment of problems it just simply isn't worth it especially risking voiding your warranty. Spending an obscene amount on all sorts of gadgetry and crap not to mention extremely expensive coffee and in a cheap out on something that could damage or permanently change the taste .. NO THANKS!
The stuff on their site has never been available that I’ve seen……
@@evanescent0311 .. Williams Sonoma has basically all of the Breville items I've mentioned and Amazon has most I've mentioned as well. Otherwise search...
Its will destroy your plastic parts
So you didn’t add 10g to 1 litre because you added an extra 500ml. So that would be 10g to 1.5 litres!!
Calm down. It's not a big deal.
Calm down? What makes you assume I’m not calm? I very calmly wrote that comment, same as this one!
I’m assuming the measurements are important. You don’t want too much of anything!
Thank you