@@marvalice3455 that’s what the pre-production stage is: creating prototypes and finding the one that’s worth fully fleshing out.I highly doubt that they fully scrapped their assets after 2016, since 2018 demo was already playable.
@@marvalice3455 They scrapped pre-production done during Witcher 3 development when they had a small Cyberpunk team that had to work on the Glitcher anyway most of the time, some serious changes were done as late as 2018 but not to this point.
Still hoping they can pull a "Hello Games" and turn this premature release around, but the idea that reviewers are treated as "partnerships", and are given strict guidelines such as NOT BEING ABLE TO SHOW THEIR OWN FOOTAGE sets a very disturbing precedent. Not a good look, CDPR.
I can't imagine it's NMS levels of broken - from what I've read, there's nothing actually game breaking or anything that can't be ironed out in patches (which I am happy enough to wait for). I mean, I remember Roach on the roof quite vividly in Witcher 3. I would assume that the PS4 and XBOne versions are probably going to be worth skipping (and that's the pro/XSX variants - forget about the base consoles unless you want.... what did EA call it...... a "filmic" 30fps at best). I think PS5/XSeX would be the lowest bar I would go. Though I will grab it on PC myself (once patched up a bit more). I waited 17 years for Outrun 2 and 18 years for Shenmue 3 and 13 years for Duke Nukem Forever and I enjoyed them (yes, even DNF) - I think I can survive a couple more weeks for this.
Can't really blame Randy for Duke 100%. Let's not forget George Broussard and his delays so that he could have a job that pays him while literally not having much to show. Also 2K can also be blamed for taking his word for it.
You ever see that video where a zebra gets attacked by a crocodile and escapes but gets disemboweled in the process? That's Naughty Dog. They kind of escaped the shit show that was TLOU2 and Neil's chronic foot-in-mouth disease, but they're still doomed. They can't survive like this.
They stopped being fun since PS2 died for PS3. Basically if you love as little gameplay mechanics as possible, run for 50 min with boring convos and 5 min action. Then Naughty Dog games are for you. The only time they used to be good was PS1 and PS2 era, when they jumped with PS3 so did they die, friggin Uncharted i hate that game so much
it won best direction and studio guess the sexual harassment and abuse to the devs were lies no no forget about 70% of the staff behind tlou2 leaving that’s not important
the corporate cycle: -small group of people (almost invariably white men) create an amazing project -project gains success and fame -project is taken over by corporate know-nothing execs -original team is squeezed out -project becomes bloated with ladder-climbers and quota-fillers -project cracks and eventually collapses under the weight of their incompetence -ladder-climbers and quota-fillers get no blame and are reallocated to another project, receive overly generous severance package, or are promoted to executive positions -repeat what makes cyberpunk interesting is that this entire cycle took place before the product was even released, lmao
The scientific term for this is: Regression to the mean. Invariably successful organizations make the same mistake: get big on the back of that success. Todd Howard I think is the only person I've heard of who has intentionally tried to keep his development organization small. Granted, their products aren't exactly a ringing endorsement of the strategy.
It's time everyone became intensely hostile towards corporate culture and rejects everything that corporations have anything to do with, that will excelerate the collapse of this corrupt system so there is space to create something better in its place.
As a Pole working as a game developer, I agree with you, and by the way, we are working on candles because we cannot afford light bulbs. And we come to work on white bears. The only thing that keeps us alive is a idea that we won't make any worse shit than the last Bethesda / Bioware games. With everlasting respect:) Powodzenia amerykańcu w walce z lewakami:)
Sometimes as consultants. But in order to persuade them to work, you must sacrifice the firstborn son, otherwise they do not want to cooperate. That is why our government fought to limit abortion. You see, we are still in the Middle Ages
@@heviro - I don't know Polish and I'd make a terrible Pole, but can I move to your country anyway? I think I can learn to ride the polar bears. Thanks in advance for your consideration.
As a Pole myself, I found lighbulbs comment deeply offensive. Everyone knows that lightbulbs are way to expensive, and every self-respecting Polish buisnessman running the company wouldn't spend a cent (or grosz) on a lightbulbs when employees can work just as fine in the dark, with illumination from their monitors.
@@PriestOfFilm fortunately no. But for some of you trekkies I might've painted some models from Star Trek online. Let me tell you working in a painting studio with no AC in 30 degrees celcious inside, because studio menager didn't want to pay for any air conditioning (untill one of our poor souls dropped unconscious that is) was a wonderful experiance.
@LordMacKarl Let me put it that way: I've never heard anyone using terms like east/west germany (or germans) regarding our western neighbour. It's just germany/germans. Germany is considered western europe. If you want to know how people saw it during PRL (ie before 1989) I would have to ask my parents about it. Fun fact: Poles living in the western part of country are generally friendly/positively disposed towards germans, and negatively towards russians. While in an eastern part of Poland it is completely opposite situation.
Regarding the Miyamoto quote, he did actually say that - in an interview in the pages of Nintendo Power, if memory serves me right - but it was specifically in the context of why they delayed the release of Ocarina of Time for a very significant time. He clarified later in an interview with TheJWittz that “I didn’t mean to say a bad game is always bad, what I meant to say is if you release a game in a bad state you will always regret it”. Implication in Japanese here being that even if you fix the game after launch, the first impression tends to stick, and as the creator of the game, you'll have that first response in your memory for a long time.
You cant fix a Nintendo 64 cartridge game after launch, there were no such thing as updates or patches you could download, the N64 had no internet.... so if the game was a buggy mess then anyone who bought it had a buggy mess forever.
@@ryanpeck3377 It's called cartridge revisions, there are like 5 of them for Ocarina, there's less bugs in each one of them. There's also that one Turok game on 64 that was unbeatable in coop because of a glitch that got a fixed cartridge offered free to anyone who bought the original(they never advertised well and most people did not take them up on the offer, making the fixed cart somewhat rare these days)
Fallout 76 is a recent example of this. It is in a much improved state now than what it was at launch (and even six months thereafter). However, you'll seldom find anyone even acknowledge this fact after the launch fiasco, in addition to the other missteps like the Collector's Edition accessories. No Man's Sky seems to be one of the few exceptions, as the game has earned much goodwill back after the improvements made to it following a disastrous launch. Maybe Internet Historian affected both of these titles to some degree.
@@voluntartistbunny Yeah, but along with all the "fixes" came with a microtransaction-infested cesspool "shop" and new gameplay mechanics locked behind a paywall, all with a membership fee stacked on top. Reminder, before launch, Pete Hines promised players cosmetic MT's only, and that turned out to be a fat fucking lie. This was a full-priced $60 AAA title that was sold exclusively on a shitty proprietary game launcher, and it's still buggy as hell and unplayable. At least Cyberpunk is single-player, so cheating is a non-issue, and with no microtransactions in sight, I could care less about bugs and glitches, even game-breaking ones. I preordered on GOG, so DRM-free is a plus. I just want to play what I paid for.
At this point, I've resigned myself to the fact that all that is good and pure gets corrupted once it starts making money. Be it ideologues twisting it or soulless suits chasing higher profits, they all become a shell of their former selves.
I think that it was just garden-variety development hell in this case. When you're developing something, you gotta try REAL hard to prevent feature creep. Feature creep can and will ruin any project no matter how well it was going priot.
@@davidgusquiloor2665 Hence the LOVE of money being the root of all evil in place of simply saying money is the root of all evil. Money is supposed to be a tool. Not an ends which you accurately observed. Same with the "economy". It is supposed to be, at most, a measure of the productivity of a people's labor. The economy is supposed to serve a people. Today, the economy is spoken about as if it is an omnipresent deity to which all motivations and people are in service. The economy and money have become the sole motivations oy any and every thing in our society. In this, people have become souless and morally bankrupt.
Never PreOrder. Not even for CDPR. Still going to get this game once the worst stuff fixed. I am old enough to know that you simply dont pay to be a betatester.
Hard agree. We used to get free game demos, studios used to give us a quarter of the game for free and beg us to buy the rest. Fuck, I remember getting Chex Blaster mini-cd in a box of damn cereal.
The only games i have ever pre ordered were smash ultimate, earth defense force, and some of the pokemon series (before I dropped the whole thing prior to sw/sh, after smelling something fishy). Phantasy star 2 infinity would have gotten that treatment as well, but it never made it to the west, so fuck us, I guess. If I get even one drop of a hint, of something possibly being off in a game, I wait till launch and reviews. It is a rare game that gets a pre order from me, but those that do generally have a long backlog of being enjoyable beyond all doubt.
lol, those stabs at Yong Yea... can't say I care anymore whenever folks make fun of him after he nailed his colours to the TDS mast. At least to my recollection.
I honestly don’t know why Yong Yea was insulted here.Jim sterling I understand, he’s a self loving prick.Yong seems somewhat unprofessional (just like razorfist) and that’s his appeal.
@@ramantarasov715 YY used to be pretty much a voice for your average, non-political Gamer. "No1curr bout ur politics, gaming time, gimme gud game" Lately he's gotten Political. And with politics comes attacks.
I liked Yong Yes for a while, but ditched him for better journos like Upper Echelon Gamers. Now I hear he got woke? Would check him out to verify, but in the end I already got my sources for news... so... Yeah.
@@demgreens in all honesty I'm actually a subscriber to him and he is part of that group. He has gone after Konami even though half of the problems are Kojima's fault.
In 2017, CDPR was "forced" to apologize after referencing a gamergate joke found in postal 2 as part of a GOG advertisement. At that point I abandoned all expectations concerning Cyberpunk: Andromeda.
This is what happens when you led American liberals (mostly women) flood a development team. And yea, the game looks a whole like Mass Effect Andromeda in terms of stability lmao. But people will give CDPR a free pass because they can do no wrong!
@@comicsans1689 Definitely mention Bioware and Andromeda every chance you get, I've been dying to get a response to that but not one of them has taken the bait. No king rules forever.
@@shadowthehedgehog3113 >For the most part Cyberpunk has resisted bending to the SJW mob-and they have come for it. Have you not been paying attention? The past two years have been non-stop pandering to SJWs.
But they didn't stop talking about how great the game was because of the bugs. All people are talking about in cyberpunk is bugs, the literal only other thing I have heard of it is that they have a trans flag on a car.
@@I_Cunt_Spell Still haven't finished Witcher 3. That game is super confusing to navigate, I have no idea where anything is 🤬. And the COMBAT, oh lord the combat is some of the worst I ever dealt with.
@@I_Cunt_Spell if you’re going to tell me TW3 does not constitute as an open world game due to some idiotic, arbitrary reason, then I think you’ve got an extra chromosome. Drink glue.
@Stix N' Stones Principles are fading away fast the biggest principle is "be famous and rich" I like this guys content he's quite funny but i know nothing of his personal life.
@Paranoid Drummer 8 years of nuking their code and rebuilding Your gonna have a lot of issue with that style of development and CD project went with that Listen it’s the only game that comes close to eye divine cybermancy or a dues ex game this year I’m willing to give it whirl
@@tylerulfmann4586 I follow some independent reviews that I trust ( razorfist included) After some of them received review copes and played around 20 hours they said some reassuring things.Apparently , the gameplay has the depth of mankind divided , the plot is great and the bugs , while not uncommon, are mostly physics glitches.(they are playing a version without day one patch.)Things are looking good.
@@ramantarasov715 That’s the vibe I’m getting from it I mean when you have cybernetics in the nervous system it’s going in the right direction for a cyberpunk game I’m just hoping the development style that CD has of just nuking shitt every two second didn’t destroy this game
That was a fun game utterly broken and clearly rushed out unfinished but still fun. It reminded me of a none vampiric bloodlines in both story and production quality. Which i supose makes sense as i think parts of Trokia were globed up by Obsidian. It would be neat to see a second crack at that type of game. Most rpgs seems to just muddy around Tolkien fantasy with the odd scifi game sprikinled in. A few more games in diffrent settings would be nice
Loved Alpha Protocol. Don't get me wrong, the gameplay was horribly broken (max stealth and pistol. You'll thank me.), the level design wasn't even remotely fair, there were bugs all over the place, and some mechanics are very poorly explained (I'm looking at you, conversion wheel.). And the worldbuilding and story were so great that it didn't matter. The choices you make, matter. And not always in predictable ways. You'll spend a lot of time trying to find information so you won't just be someone's puppet. Taking one path means others (and their associated secrets) are closed to you for the duration of that session. Your handlers will sometimes give you guidance that will screw you over if you follow it. Is that because they don't know everything, or because they're setting you up? I've played the thing through at least five times, and I know there are things I haven't uncovered. (But I can chuckle at the tvtropes page where the secret motivation of *character* is revealed in spoilerspace, and I know for a fact that it's just another layer of cover story, deliberately planted for you to find so you'll trust *character*.)
I'll wait until I played it to pass judgement but given that the one review I have seen was like 50% complaining about not being able to tell every npc that the reviewers character is trans, I don't trust reviewers
CDPR has been going downhill for a while now but not in the traditional sense. Layoffs and bad company practices can be swept under the rug with reddit circlejerk and the many YongYeas on payroll. Cyberpunk's priorities have shifted since they released their first showcase, especially in how it's being marketed. From pioneering & popularizing the 'Game is delayed, we sorry lol' on twitter, to spending huge amounts of money on influencers, to making various 30 minute 'gamplay showcases' where maybe 3-5 mins is actual gameplay and the rest is just dribble of how inspired, diverse & excited the people working on the game are (weeks before release no less), to the latest developer thank you video where they have 4 community managers appear as part of the dev team. It would suck to be the guy actually writing code, optimizing and coming up with solutions, who's endured crunch for the last couple of years to be replaced as a developer by pink hair Tumblrina who's a community manager and a recent hire...
I remember playing and then replaying Fallout New Vegas for months before they eventually made it stable enough to feel safe not saving before every door and conversation. I still love that game. I just hope Cyberpunk will do something similar.
@GF Some of the codebase was probably shared anyway. I've played enough Assassin's Creed games this year to notice similar bugs in all of them, despite them being developed by different development teams. Some of the bugs are there since the first or the second game.
I was pretty hyped for Doom Eternal (which was apparently good), but I just can't justify dropping 80 canuck bucks on a digital game. I will wait until the complete edition goes on sale for less than 40 or so.
Over the years, the concept of hype has had the opposite effect on me; I find myself wanting hyped games less and less the more hype they receive. How about instead of focusing all your efforts on getting people excited for your game (because they already are), you use that energy to make said game a product worth our time?
@@samsh0-q3a The same reason why they are trying to suppress the early reviews of the game. They don't care if you have Buyer's Remorse, because they already tricked you out of your money. They would not do this if they put in the effort to make their product worth the price in the first place. I hope Cyberpunk 2077 does well, and I am sure it will, but what I want even more is that the people who buy this game are not disappointed by it.
@@samsh0-q3a I have yet to meet anyone outside of my local neckbeard crew that knew anything about the setting besides LOL KEANU!!!! the second I started in on the lore the preorder crowd's eyes glaze over. the shills on twitter have called Mike Pondsmith a white supremacist nazi. I have yet to decod that level of smoothbrain doublespeak.
@@davidabest7195 Modern military and political historian chiming in here. Yes there is. Authoritarianism is shit, end of. Also funny you would say that under a vid about a game made by CDPR, who is Polish. Considering the forced 'relocation' of the Poles by the NatSocs, which put literal millions of Poles out of their homes to make way for German families to occupy... Yeah, fuck off with that. NatSoc is just as garbage as the rest of the smoothbrain militarist authoritarian regime-making ideological and governmental policy-mills.
I took a peek into the fandom to see what the fuck is going on (I could literally give less than a shit about this game). I haven't seen Consoomers like this since the last Star Wars movie. I feel unclean just witnessing it. Honest to Christ, I have no idea how anyone can get this obsessively hyped over a game release in modern day when the higher the game budget, the lower the quality at release. I truly miss the days of old when I wouldn't even know about a game existing until seeing it on a store shelf or in a friend's Playstation, long before the days when gaming news was omnipresent and we hear about games from the moment the idea is conceived.
I promised myself after "Raw is War" many moons ago, that I would never get hyped for a game ever again. Excited and intrigued sure, but watching this happen over and over (No Man's Sky comes to mind), I'm over it.
I felt there would be problems. I am a boomer with barely any contact with gaming news, and it felt like I could not get away from the ads and the hype videos for this friggin game. I may not be the gamer that I used to be, but I still know over-schilling when I see it.
My brother-in-law has been salivating over this game since the first trailer dropped. It really puts his gaming habits into sharp focus. Honestly, he is basically the perfect gamer-- according to the game industry, that is. He lives for the hype train, constantly abandons games he buys for new games even if he's only played them for a short time, and will blindly defend his purchase of said new games even when they're absolute trash. He bought Fallout 76, and showed it off to me in all its buggy glory, beaming with pride. "Oh, dude, it's cool, because look at this cool thing!" he said as he activated VATS to kill a ghoul, whose headless, T-posing body had partially merged with the ground and started vibrating at supersonic speed. He said, "Oh, those are scorchbeasts over there," as a re-skinned Skyrim dragon gracefully juddered and stuttered its way through the sky. "This is a pretty good RPG," he spoke, positively aglow, even though your choices don't really matter, since you can just re-stat yourself and completely change your appearance on the fly. I laughed, and asked him if he remembered playing Fallout 4, because he had bought that too, when it came out. He did. I asked him how VATS worked in that game, and he responded that it stopped time to allow you to pick your shots. He became apoplectic when I suggested that, if it was supposed to allow you time to pick your shots, this version of VATS did not work at all, and was therefore pretty lame. "I DON'T HAVE TO JUSTIFY THIS GAME TO YOU!" Those were his words, exactly. Now, to sum up this little trip down Memory Lane; I am not a betting man. I don't have a lot of confidence in my ability to predict outcomes most of the time, and prefer to just wait for the dust to settle first. But, after hearing about all the stuff going on with Cyberpunk, I would bet *SO MUCH MONEY* that I will hear those exact words from my brother-in-law again once the game comes out.
@@lukestover2207 You bet your ass I did! I just lost my shit when the car he was in yeeted itself into orbit of its own accord, and the police just teleported in from thin air. His disappointment was palpable.
guess it's wait for a sale or a year for the "gAmE oF tHe YeAr" edition honestly one look at CDPR HR department killed any hype I ever had for this game a year ago
Fun Fact: The Cyberpunk 2077 storage capacity is ALMOST as close to the same amount required to download the Countdown App from the "Countdown" (2019) movie [60 Gb].
When I first heard about this game and its development issues, it started to remind me of Watch Dogs. It too was supposed to be this innovative open world dystopian rpg where you could around and go do cool hacker stuff in it. Then, they started cutting out features and reducing the graphics, so much so that when the game finally launched, it was so disapointing that it was DOA. It sounds like that may be true about CP2077 as well.
And with a lot of the press wanting to take the company down a peg, it's uncertain if the glitches are real or like Anita's death threats: few but overblown to seem omnipresent.
It's an open world game made with an inhouse engine using a lot of experimental tech stitched together with Slav hopes and dreams. It's gonna be buggy. I hope that the game is awesome, I bought it and will play it day one, but glitches will be there. Though not a fan of how they handle reviews though.
I've seen a gameplay stream and several other clips. Lots of random, significant bugs (such as clipping into a fence and instantly dying, and objects getting stuck in mid-air). Also certain elements (namely the vehicle physics and enemy AI) are in such bad shape that calling them "buggy" would be a compliment. The vehicle physics turns everything into bumper cars.
@@doodguytheblank2403 really depending ones taste I guess, I personally think it can be an 8 to 9 (can be, not knowing it until i play it), cause so far I like what I see. But then again I have a soft spot for thr Cyberpunk genre.
If you watch any of the leaked gameplay, the bugs are constant, every stream I've seen(even post patch) have been incredibley buggy, the game is not finished.
Yo, the part about how building games is searching for "fun", and it's a difficult thing that doesn't necessarily come together in development process, is very insightful!
Game and Movie Trailers should be banned forever... .... game trailers especially piss me off, they never show the damn game, might as well be watching a 30 second movie based on game
I've been saying for months and months now, I'm more excited about the inevitable backlash when this fails to meet its astronomic hype than I am to actually play the game myself. Make some popcorn boys and girls, this gon be gud...
@@ramantarasov715 It's the cult-like following that concerns me. It made... two good games, yes, very good games. And now it has a cult following that can see no wrong in what they do. Mark my words, if this game turns out to be a good 8/10, they'll viciously attack anyone who denies it's a 10/10 GOTY/GOTC. Remember that Bioware also could do no wrong at the times of Baldur's Gate 2. Then came NWN. NWN2. Suddenly they weren't so untouchable anymore. After that came Dragon Age which was heralded as the best thing ever, when it was inferior to Baldur's Gate in everything but graphics. I do like CDPROJECKTRED, I don't like this Messiah complex."
@@tylerulfmann4586 I mean it's not what the employees are saying who have been equally disappointed with the studio but despite that a lot of people are still pulling for the game :oh and The Witcher sucks 😗
@@I_Cunt_Spell considering the fact that Witcher 3 is one of the most beloved and respected games of all time and it was their first attempt at making an open world, I’d say their coders know that they are doing.
Had endured the ceaseless waves of baseless adulation for this game so far prior to it ever even materializing as an actual, tangible thing that I could never have expected this to play out any differently.
That polish lightbulb joke at the end had me chuckle so hard I had to retake my sensitivity training. Low hanging fruit made into a fine peach cobbler.
As excited as I am to finally play this game, I would be remiss in saying that part of me is terrified it won't live up to all of the hype. Some of the hype perhaps. But I'm still committed nuts deep into this game and I'll still find joy into diving into this particular universe. I mean fuck, I still like Fallout 4 even with all it's bugs and game crashes because the world of that game still draws me in. And unlike Senior Sterling who probably won't even play the game based on some highfalutin moral principle or some crap, I'll still play it... maybe after a patch or two.
I had a feeling the game would release in this state, which was why I never bought it. While it is true that a game is better off not rushed out the gate, I've also noticed that delayed games within the last decade are largely deficient. When you look behind the scenes, it's usually not because the games were too large in scope or what have you, it's usually to due with the staff, and more importantly, the leadership and/or the lack of direction they bring to the table. Least to say, I'm not surprised Cyberpunk came out as a buggy mess, given how this is the same studio that created the Witcher 3. As much as I enjoyed the game and it's story, it is often overlooked how ridiculously buggy the Witcher 3 was during release, and still is. How the Witcher 3 came out, and it's subsequent success, was practically a fluke. Being someone who has made games with people in my spare time (Nothing monetary of course), I've learned how easy it is to bloat games with feature creep. As soon as I saw that they never released gameplay footage, I knew something was wrong. You are making a game, not the next big bang, studios need to chillout (Looking at you Ubisoft) and produce content that is more focused and doesn't take 100 hours to beat (At least for single player games).
Oof, can’t say I didn’t see this coming. Still, I was kinda pulling for her to come through. 8 years of development tells the fuckin tale with most of these games, that’s far too long.
Yeah I’m going to wait for the day one patch and give it a week before I buy it. I have faith in the game improving, even Witcher 3 was super jank when it first came out.
One of the cleverest statements was when an ign reviewer explicitly said "I envy those who will get to play the game first 6 months after release." [6 MONTHS]
CD relied on their past glory from The Witcher 3 and on the presence of an actual Cyberpunk legend, Neo to sell this game and forgot to actually make it good.
46 gig day 1 patch. Que the Fire in the room "This is Fine" meme. Edit: Massive hype almost always kills the experience. Stay off the manufactured Hype Trains guys.
I think the "Miyamoto" quote is given under the assumption that the developers knowing what they're doing isn't in question, where time is the only notable variable. I mean, it is ostensibly about Nintendo.
I remember when skyrim came out, pornhub posted their site stats to show how successful skyrim launch was. When pornhub has a 30% drop, that's a good launch, bugs aside
That gave a lot of ppl an excuse to say gamers are losers who stare at internet porn all day... when in reality it's only most gamers that are like that
I find it odd that no one is making a stink about how CDPR is giving copyright strikes to youtubers (i was one of them) but when the les of us 2 did it, everyone in their mother have been making weeks worth complains because of copyright strikes (which i was also suffered from it).
People have always been all over CDPR’s dick for some reason. Witcher 3 was the most overrated game of the last generation. Doesn’t surprise me they are striking people’s content down, sounds like they are in damage control mode to protect preorders. Funny that they include a streamer friendly mode to stop people getting DMCA’d and then actively flag peoples videos. What a bunch of crooks.
Their doing it because some people got physical copies early. And they said do not stream it before launch. I haven't proffered the game (mostly cause I don't gave a system to play it on), byt in this instance its justified
Swalu Blue nah it’s not justified at all, people should be able to upload whatever they want if it doesn’t violate tos, it just makes it look like they have something to hide. Hope youtube gets flooded with videos showing off all the bugs and jank on launch day when there’s nothing they can do about it.
So many wounds reopened with the aforementioned Duke, Deus Ex, and Colonial Marines. Its a damn shame that Cyberpunk will most likely suck. Im looking forward to the gameplay Razor!
@Someguy's CPU So if someone from ur nativity is dumb u ask them 'why dont u leave?' 'Why are u still here?' Ur logic goes both ways right? Allow smart immigrants and emigrate dumb native people?
Finally someone calls YawnYea (stealing that nickname) what he is, CDPR's jester. And a cockrest for Kojima. When the Dorito Pope isn't taking that position. Haha! That Shapiro joke took me a minute. Longer than it takes for his wife to turn into a desert at the mere sight of the half-pint. Also, situations exactly like this are why I've taken on RGE's stance of never buying a game any sooner than six months after release.
Supposedly Witcher 3 turned into something great just a couple months before it's release. I think it might have given CDPR lead an impression that's how those things work, while in fact they were a bit lucky. I hope they know what they are doing rather than expecting the 11th hour magic.
The levels of hype for this game are off the scales. No matter how good or bad the game turns out to be the people waiting for it will be horribly disappointed once it finally drops because they all seem to believe that the launch of this game will be some world changing event on par with man achieving space flight.
@@I_Cunt_Spell I personally don't trust any AAA dev anymore. I had no intentions no buying Cyberpunk anyway. I'm gonna stick with modding the games I have and if ai do buy new, I'll be looking almost exclusively at indies.
@@samsh0-q3a I never played Witcher 3 or any other CRPR game. But I did hear good things about it. Hence why I thought they were at least marginally competent for a AAA dev. But I seem to have been given an overly optimistic opinion of them.
ACM still hurts me till this day. All that hype and potential those damn pre-release trailers were so damn good only for it to turn to shit. But man it’s kind of funny to hear what a buggy ass mess CP77 turned out to be despite a last minute delay. I generally can’t imagine what it’s gonna play like on my ps4, but hey I’m actually glad they last minute delayed. Killed the shit out of my hype.
I wondered why Angry Joe wasn't given a preview copy, now I know, thank you. Whether you like Angry Joe's humour or not, you must see that he gives his honest opinion, so this explains it.
This game took so long to make that the world actually became dystopian, information warfare driven society before it came out haha.
Nah , more like it was announced too early and was in the pre-production stage till 16-17
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@@ramantarasov715 that's confirmed not true. they just scrapped everything multiple times.
@@marvalice3455 that’s what the pre-production stage is: creating prototypes and finding the one that’s worth fully fleshing out.I highly doubt that they fully scrapped their assets after 2016, since 2018 demo was already playable.
@@marvalice3455 They scrapped pre-production done during Witcher 3 development when they had a small Cyberpunk team that had to work on the Glitcher anyway most of the time, some serious changes were done as late as 2018 but not to this point.
Still hoping they can pull a "Hello Games" and turn this premature release around, but the idea that reviewers are treated as "partnerships", and are given strict guidelines such as NOT BEING ABLE TO SHOW THEIR OWN FOOTAGE sets a very disturbing precedent. Not a good look, CDPR.
Not really a precedent when many other game companies have used the same review embargo crap. Doesn't make it any less shady, though.
It's shady as hell for sure.
Off topic but, love your content. So glad that Razor led me to your channel.
I can't imagine it's NMS levels of broken - from what I've read, there's nothing actually game breaking or anything that can't be ironed out in patches (which I am happy enough to wait for). I mean, I remember Roach on the roof quite vividly in Witcher 3.
I would assume that the PS4 and XBOne versions are probably going to be worth skipping (and that's the pro/XSX variants - forget about the base consoles unless you want.... what did EA call it...... a "filmic" 30fps at best). I think PS5/XSeX would be the lowest bar I would go. Though I will grab it on PC myself (once patched up a bit more). I waited 17 years for Outrun 2 and 18 years for Shenmue 3 and 13 years for Duke Nukem Forever and I enjoyed them (yes, even DNF) - I think I can survive a couple more weeks for this.
@@mightymanatee5342 like MGSV that boot camp shit was shady as fuck.
Unpopular opinion: Reviewers shouldn't be able to show "their own" game play footage for a review before the release of the game.
"What happened to Duke Nukem Forever and Aliens Colonial Marines?'
Randy Pitchford
Thats true. didn't he use the budget money SEGA gave him for ACM to make borderlands? That was fucked.
Can't really blame Randy for Duke 100%. Let's not forget George Broussard and his delays so that he could have a job that pays him while literally not having much to show. Also 2K can also be blamed for taking his word for it.
on the Dukes situation that fulfilled the other problem. not to fast, but not to late.
I read "Randy Pitchford" in Civvie11's voice.
Frig off Randy, ya greasy bastard.
Whoa. Whoa, Razor. I'm gonna have to stop you right there. Don't you remember what NaughtyDog said? "Fun" isnt a word we use around here.
Neil Druckman said that and now he is co-president of Naughtydog
I loved the Jak games, pity.
You ever see that video where a zebra gets attacked by a crocodile and escapes but gets disemboweled in the process? That's Naughty Dog.
They kind of escaped the shit show that was TLOU2 and Neil's chronic foot-in-mouth disease, but they're still doomed. They can't survive like this.
They stopped being fun since PS2 died for PS3. Basically if you love as little gameplay mechanics as possible, run for 50 min with boring convos and 5 min action. Then Naughty Dog games are for you. The only time they used to be good was PS1 and PS2 era, when they jumped with PS3 so did they die, friggin Uncharted i hate that game so much
it won best direction and studio guess the sexual harassment and abuse to the devs were lies no no forget about 70% of the staff behind tlou2 leaving that’s not important
the corporate cycle:
-small group of people (almost invariably white men) create an amazing project
-project gains success and fame
-project is taken over by corporate know-nothing execs
-original team is squeezed out
-project becomes bloated with ladder-climbers and quota-fillers
-project cracks and eventually collapses under the weight of their incompetence
-ladder-climbers and quota-fillers get no blame and are reallocated to another project, receive overly generous severance package, or are promoted to executive positions
-repeat
what makes cyberpunk interesting is that this entire cycle took place before the product was even released, lmao
This, is an under rated comment.
Good way to sum it up.
Exactly what happened to Mafia or CDPR.
The scientific term for this is: Regression to the mean. Invariably successful organizations make the same mistake: get big on the back of that success. Todd Howard I think is the only person I've heard of who has intentionally tried to keep his development organization small. Granted, their products aren't exactly a ringing endorsement of the strategy.
It's time everyone became intensely hostile towards corporate culture and rejects everything that corporations have anything to do with, that will excelerate the collapse of this corrupt system so there is space to create something better in its place.
I pine for the days of games being complete on launch, and not needing to be duct taped after the first week.
50gb patch is more then duct tape
@@Dirkei and we dont even know if the day0 patch is the day 1 patch or it will be even heavier.
This honestly was only a thing until the internet became widespread. So mid 90s at best.
I mean what game ever has been complete on launch?
@@ThisisKyle a lot
As a Pole working as a game developer, I agree with you, and by the way, we are working on candles because we cannot afford light bulbs. And we come to work on white bears. The only thing that keeps us alive is a idea that we won't make any worse shit than the last Bethesda / Bioware games. With everlasting respect:) Powodzenia amerykańcu w walce z lewakami:)
Do the bears also work for you?
Sometimes as consultants. But in order to persuade them to work, you must sacrifice the firstborn son, otherwise they do not want to cooperate. That is why our government fought to limit abortion. You see, we are still in the Middle Ages
@@heviro - I don't know Polish and I'd make a terrible Pole, but can I move to your country anyway? I think I can learn to ride the polar bears. Thanks in advance for your consideration.
As a Pole myself, I found lighbulbs comment deeply offensive. Everyone knows that lightbulbs are way to expensive, and every self-respecting Polish buisnessman running the company wouldn't spend a cent (or grosz) on a lightbulbs when employees can work just as fine in the dark, with illumination from their monitors.
do ... do you work at CDPR by any chance?
@@PriestOfFilm fortunately no. But for some of you trekkies I might've painted some models from Star Trek online. Let me tell you working in a painting studio with no AC in 30 degrees celcious inside, because studio menager didn't want to pay for any air conditioning (untill one of our poor souls dropped unconscious that is) was a wonderful experiance.
Everything that Sseth says about Eastern Europe is true and based on personal experience.
@@MultiCommissar yes
@LordMacKarl Let me put it that way: I've never heard anyone using terms like east/west germany (or germans) regarding our western neighbour. It's just germany/germans. Germany is considered western europe. If you want to know how people saw it during PRL (ie before 1989) I would have to ask my parents about it.
Fun fact: Poles living in the western part of country are generally friendly/positively disposed towards germans, and negatively towards russians. While in an eastern part of Poland it is completely opposite situation.
Regarding the Miyamoto quote, he did actually say that - in an interview in the pages of Nintendo Power, if memory serves me right - but it was specifically in the context of why they delayed the release of Ocarina of Time for a very significant time. He clarified later in an interview with TheJWittz that “I didn’t mean to say a bad game is always bad, what I meant to say is if you release a game in a bad state you will always regret it”. Implication in Japanese here being that even if you fix the game after launch, the first impression tends to stick, and as the creator of the game, you'll have that first response in your memory for a long time.
There were no patches in the good old days I think. Once it's in the Game card is there forever I think.
You cant fix a Nintendo 64 cartridge game after launch, there were no such thing as updates or patches you could download, the N64 had no internet.... so if the game was a buggy mess then anyone who bought it had a buggy mess forever.
@@ryanpeck3377 It's called cartridge revisions, there are like 5 of them for Ocarina, there's less bugs in each one of them. There's also that one Turok game on 64 that was unbeatable in coop because of a glitch that got a fixed cartridge offered free to anyone who bought the original(they never advertised well and most people did not take them up on the offer, making the fixed cart somewhat rare these days)
Fallout 76 is a recent example of this. It is in a much improved state now than what it was at launch (and even six months thereafter). However, you'll seldom find anyone even acknowledge this fact after the launch fiasco, in addition to the other missteps like the Collector's Edition accessories.
No Man's Sky seems to be one of the few exceptions, as the game has earned much goodwill back after the improvements made to it following a disastrous launch.
Maybe Internet Historian affected both of these titles to some degree.
@@voluntartistbunny Yeah, but along with all the "fixes" came with a microtransaction-infested cesspool "shop" and new gameplay mechanics locked behind a paywall, all with a membership fee stacked on top.
Reminder, before launch, Pete Hines promised players cosmetic MT's only, and that turned out to be a fat fucking lie. This was a full-priced $60 AAA title that was sold exclusively on a shitty proprietary game launcher, and it's still buggy as hell and unplayable.
At least Cyberpunk is single-player, so cheating is a non-issue, and with no microtransactions in sight, I could care less about bugs and glitches, even game-breaking ones. I preordered on GOG, so DRM-free is a plus. I just want to play what I paid for.
At this point, I've resigned myself to the fact that all that is good and pure gets corrupted once it starts making money. Be it ideologues twisting it or soulless suits chasing higher profits, they all become a shell of their former selves.
1st Timothy, 6: 10: "For the Love of money is the root of all evil."
Money is not the problem on itself. It's treating money like the be all end all instead of just the means to an end.
I think that it was just garden-variety development hell in this case. When you're developing something, you gotta try REAL hard to prevent feature creep. Feature creep can and will ruin any project no matter how well it was going priot.
@Al Dente You pulled that from my media consumption playbook!
@@davidgusquiloor2665 Hence the LOVE of money being the root of all evil in place of simply saying money is the root of all evil. Money is supposed to be a tool. Not an ends which you accurately observed. Same with the "economy". It is supposed to be, at most, a measure of the productivity of a people's labor. The economy is supposed to serve a people. Today, the economy is spoken about as if it is an omnipresent deity to which all motivations and people are in service. The economy and money have become the sole motivations oy any and every thing in our society. In this, people have become souless and morally bankrupt.
Never PreOrder. Not even for CDPR. Still going to get this game once the worst stuff fixed. I am old enough to know that you simply dont pay to be a betatester.
This. Pre-ordering is just giving a studio and publisher license to make garbage and disappoint you, yet get paid anyway as they do it.
Hard agree. We used to get free game demos, studios used to give us a quarter of the game for free and beg us to buy the rest. Fuck, I remember getting Chex Blaster mini-cd in a box of damn cereal.
The only games i have ever pre ordered were smash ultimate, earth defense force, and some of the pokemon series (before I dropped the whole thing prior to sw/sh, after smelling something fishy). Phantasy star 2 infinity would have gotten that treatment as well, but it never made it to the west, so fuck us, I guess.
If I get even one drop of a hint, of something possibly being off in a game, I wait till launch and reviews. It is a rare game that gets a pre order from me, but those that do generally have a long backlog of being enjoyable beyond all doubt.
We tried to warn them... 🤷♂️
Let's add: Always pirate, everything.
lol, those stabs at Yong Yea... can't say I care anymore whenever folks make fun of him after he nailed his colours to the TDS mast. At least to my recollection.
I honestly don’t know why Yong Yea was insulted here.Jim sterling I understand, he’s a self loving prick.Yong seems somewhat unprofessional (just like razorfist) and that’s his appeal.
SAD
@@ramantarasov715 YY used to be pretty much a voice for your average, non-political Gamer. "No1curr bout ur politics, gaming time, gimme gud game" Lately he's gotten Political.
And with politics comes attacks.
@@ramantarasov715 The dude has become a shill for CDPR and won't shut up about Trump.
I liked Yong Yes for a while, but ditched him for better journos like Upper Echelon Gamers. Now I hear he got woke? Would check him out to verify, but in the end I already got my sources for news... so... Yeah.
If it's awful, I'll refund.
If it's good, I'll enjoy it.
Hype is so pointless from a consumer standpoint.
not about being good, its about being GOTY, keeping on your collection and buy all collectibles and addons
Let's not forget Yongyea was a part of The Phantom Pain boot camp.
@@I_Cunt_Spell XD
@@I_Cunt_Spell what was weird was that he started as a MGS channel, he never reviewed MGS 5 or Ground Zeroes.
@@I_Cunt_Spell They weren’t wrong.... there was a slope on the bridge LOL
Yongyea is definitely high up in the Cult of Kojima
@@demgreens in all honesty I'm actually a subscriber to him and he is part of that group.
He has gone after Konami even though half of the problems are Kojima's fault.
"Hey guys, have you played *every game ever*?"
“Oh boy I hope there’s *collectables*.”
@@lastfirst5863 and *achievements*
@@benisrood armed with a bow. i bet noone's done that yet.
No! Not even once!
Yes
In 2017, CDPR was "forced" to apologize after referencing a gamergate joke found in postal 2 as part of a GOG advertisement. At that point I abandoned all expectations concerning Cyberpunk: Andromeda.
This is what happens when you led American liberals (mostly women) flood a development team. And yea, the game looks a whole like Mass Effect Andromeda in terms of stability lmao. But people will give CDPR a free pass because they can do no wrong!
Man fuck that noise, I'm gonna go play Postal 2 right now. That game's a fucking work of art.
@@comicsans1689 Definitely mention Bioware and Andromeda every chance you get, I've been dying to get a response to that but not one of them has taken the bait. No king rules forever.
@@shadowthehedgehog3113
>For the most part Cyberpunk has resisted bending to the SJW mob-and they have come for it.
Have you not been paying attention? The past two years have been non-stop pandering to SJWs.
"When Skyrim came out, was everyone talking about all the ubiquitous jankcraft?"
Yes, yes they were. 100%
Yeah, good video but that point kinda fell flat. Skyrim was a mess and people noticed... they noticed very quickly.
@@Theosake Cult classic.... umm maybe use a different term for one of the biggest selling games of all time.
@@I_Cunt_Spell Skyrim on my toilet seat and Doom on my Casio digital watch. :P
@@unki87 Skyrim was a fun mess.
But they didn't stop talking about how great the game was because of the bugs. All people are talking about in cyberpunk is bugs, the literal only other thing I have heard of it is that they have a trans flag on a car.
The Amber Heard prenup line had me in stitches.
Just like Johnny Depp then
@@PeterSellers22 Razor's joke made me raise an eyebrow. You made me chuckle. Well done.
Thanks to everyone who already spent 60 bucks to beta test this game for me! Appreciate you 👍
WHO COULD'VE PREDICTED SUCH TRAGEDY?!
@@I_Cunt_Spell Still haven't finished Witcher 3. That game is super confusing to navigate, I have no idea where anything is 🤬. And the COMBAT, oh lord the combat is some of the worst I ever dealt with.
@@I_Cunt_Spell Dude, same
Anyone with half a brain
@@TheCaptainhowdy11 So you're so braindead you can't navigate one of the best open world games ever made... okay buddy.
@@I_Cunt_Spell if you’re going to tell me TW3 does not constitute as an open world game due to some idiotic, arbitrary reason, then I think you’ve got an extra chromosome. Drink glue.
Last time I was this early, Joe Biden remembered his name.
And that was when he discovered fire.
@Ho Lee Shi He wanted Hunter to rape only the purest of white children. Probably why he ended up abusing his own niece. Keep them bloodlines "pure"
I don't even think the voters no his name, all they did was vote for the least orange person
Allow me to play the straw man.
*Cope harder repubs, you resort to these petty things because you dont have actual proof. Love drinking repub tears.*
Joe Biden is so old he called his first wife hun,,, because she was one.
My expectations are so low for this game I’ll probably enjoy it.
Last time I was this early, Joe Biden still wasn't a viable presidential candidate. Again.
😁😂😂😂
I thought he was running for the senate
@@newsoftheday420 And against the other Biden at that
@@a_channel2545 who's worse: joe biden or the people that voted for him?
@@bacardibum Tough choice.
A man with principals, that is exceedingly rare nowadays. Well done sir.
He is talking about a game that he didn't played yet
@Stix N' Stones
Principles are fading away fast the biggest principle is "be famous and rich"
I like this guys content he's quite funny but i know nothing of his personal life.
8 years to release an unfinished game.
Last time I was this early, Cyberpunk hadn't been delayed yet
I remember them saying, "No Crunch, It's inhumane..."
Boy am I sick of seeing every variant of this comment..
Get some new material everybody.
@@GreenGearMood last time I was this early, these were funny
A delayed game is eventually good.
A rushed game is forever bad.
A game without a solid foundation will not be fixed by delays.
@@mariokarter13 just stfu with that overused statement
I do want this game but the hype around it has been so unreal.
Honestly, the hype justified to an extent.The game is straight up open world deus ex.
@@ramantarasov715
I think another 2-3 months of development after a clear re-focus of bug fixing can make that vision a bit more clear
@Paranoid Drummer
8 years of nuking their code and rebuilding
Your gonna have a lot of issue with that style of development and CD project went with that
Listen it’s the only game that comes close to eye divine cybermancy or a dues ex game this year I’m willing to give it whirl
@@tylerulfmann4586 I follow some independent reviews that I trust ( razorfist included) After some of them received review copes and played around 20 hours they said some reassuring things.Apparently , the gameplay has the depth of mankind divided , the plot is great and the bugs , while not uncommon, are mostly physics glitches.(they are playing a version without day one patch.)Things are looking good.
@@ramantarasov715
That’s the vibe I’m getting from it
I mean when you have cybernetics in the nervous system it’s going in the right direction for a cyberpunk game
I’m just hoping the development style that CD has of just nuking shitt every two second didn’t destroy this game
50 gig patch? That’s the same as the day 1 Fallout 76 patch
50 gigs what did they ship the thing without the games code?
Cyberpunk 76!
@@vonfaustien3957 That has happened. The last Tony Hawk game only has the tutorial on the disc. The rest was all part of the install download.
@@vonfaustien3957 It has to be textures
@@I_Cunt_Spell Exactly, CDPR is not delivering the game that they were hyping. They've cut too many features.
I’m gonna wait as well IGN, Kotaku and other “gaming journalists” only care about politics and “RePrEsEnTaTiOn”.
The "savior" narrative surrounding this game always baffled me. This is Mass Effect all over again...
Well they got what they wanted CDPR has gone woker in a shorter amount of time than even Ubisoft.
don't you mean reeeeeeeeeeeepresentation?
@@yaryar5828 I mean almost all Scifi games have a similar kind of plot
I find that baffling. One was complaining that the game didn't do enough to preach about social justice in a dystopian future.
I pre-ordered but since canceled it after the game was delayed to December. Thank God I dodged that bullet.
NEVER pre-order.
@@LivingArmor196 now I'm going to go pre-order it. Thank you for convincing me.
imagine giving someone you money before you even seen the product lmao
@@davidabest7195 Isn't that basically online shopping?
I pre-ordered Resident Evil 2 Remake and heck even back at November 2019 iirc DOOM Eternal.
I still run through Alpha Protocol from time to time. If any sub-genre deserved another look it's the secret agent rpg.
That was a fun game utterly broken and clearly rushed out unfinished but still fun. It reminded me of a none vampiric bloodlines in both story and production quality. Which i supose makes sense as i think parts of Trokia were globed up by Obsidian.
It would be neat to see a second crack at that type of game. Most rpgs seems to just muddy around Tolkien fantasy with the odd scifi game sprikinled in. A few more games in diffrent settings would be nice
@@vonfaustien3957 I agree. secret agent rpgs are a potential market. or more games like Earthbound.
Loved Alpha Protocol.
Don't get me wrong, the gameplay was horribly broken (max stealth and pistol. You'll thank me.), the level design wasn't even remotely fair, there were bugs all over the place, and some mechanics are very poorly explained (I'm looking at you, conversion wheel.).
And the worldbuilding and story were so great that it didn't matter.
The choices you make, matter. And not always in predictable ways. You'll spend a lot of time trying to find information so you won't just be someone's puppet. Taking one path means others (and their associated secrets) are closed to you for the duration of that session. Your handlers will sometimes give you guidance that will screw you over if you follow it. Is that because they don't know everything, or because they're setting you up?
I've played the thing through at least five times, and I know there are things I haven't uncovered. (But I can chuckle at the tvtropes page where the secret motivation of *character* is revealed in spoilerspace, and I know for a fact that it's just another layer of cover story, deliberately planted for you to find so you'll trust *character*.)
YongYea pretends he's a lot smarter than he actually is.
Lots of people are like that. I work with most of them.
Just your average CDPR reddit shill
@@Theosake I unsubbed before that I guess, once I noticed how hard he actually got over Kojima i just felt gross watching him.
That dude is such a fanboy
That would be the Dunning-Kruger effect. I've only listened to a couple of his videos so I can't really judge though.
I'll wait until I played it to pass judgement but given that the one review I have seen was like 50% complaining about not being able to tell every npc that the reviewers character is trans, I don't trust reviewers
Should have learned the lesson at 2014
Pretty much my view
CDPR has been going downhill for a while now but not in the traditional sense. Layoffs and bad company practices can be swept under the rug with reddit circlejerk and the many YongYeas on payroll.
Cyberpunk's priorities have shifted since they released their first showcase, especially in how it's being marketed. From pioneering & popularizing the 'Game is delayed, we sorry lol' on twitter, to spending huge amounts of money on influencers, to making various 30 minute 'gamplay showcases' where maybe 3-5 mins is actual gameplay and the rest is just dribble of how inspired, diverse & excited the people working on the game are (weeks before release no less), to the latest developer thank you video where they have 4 community managers appear as part of the dev team.
It would suck to be the guy actually writing code, optimizing and coming up with solutions, who's endured crunch for the last couple of years to be replaced as a developer by pink hair Tumblrina who's a community manager and a recent hire...
I remember playing and then replaying Fallout New Vegas for months before they eventually made it stable enough to feel safe not saving before every door and conversation. I still love that game. I just hope Cyberpunk will do something similar.
@GF Some of the codebase was probably shared anyway.
I've played enough Assassin's Creed games this year to notice similar bugs in all of them, despite them being developed by different development teams. Some of the bugs are there since the first or the second game.
"The most ambitious , cutting edge, next generation, rpg open world"
overhyped neon light hipster garbage is what it equates to.
You just had to twist the knife with that 'Aliens: Colonial Marines' dig. That still hurts. What could have been....
At least Alien Isolation was just around the corner to soften the blow. Id still love a military styled Aliens action game though 😩
Imagine getting hyped for a game in 2020
perish the thought
E L D E N R I N G
I was pretty hyped for Doom Eternal (which was apparently good), but I just can't justify dropping 80 canuck bucks on a digital game. I will wait until the complete edition goes on sale for less than 40 or so.
For me it was Nioh 2 and its my GoTY aswell
@Zoomer Waffen There has not even been gameplay shown yet though.
Over the years, the concept of hype has had the opposite effect on me; I find myself wanting hyped games less and less the more hype they receive. How about instead of focusing all your efforts on getting people excited for your game (because they already are), you use that energy to make said game a product worth our time?
Why? Gamers are already lining up to pull the trigger on this game without even knowing what it is, why would they change that?
@@samsh0-q3a The same reason why they are trying to suppress the early reviews of the game. They don't care if you have Buyer's Remorse, because they already tricked you out of your money. They would not do this if they put in the effort to make their product worth the price in the first place.
I hope Cyberpunk 2077 does well, and I am sure it will, but what I want even more is that the people who buy this game are not disappointed by it.
@@samsh0-q3a I have yet to meet anyone outside of my local neckbeard crew that knew anything about the setting besides LOL KEANU!!!! the second I started in on the lore the preorder crowd's eyes glaze over. the shills on twitter have called Mike Pondsmith a white supremacist nazi. I have yet to decod that level of smoothbrain doublespeak.
@@thh420 - there is literally nothing wrong with being national socialist
@@davidabest7195 Modern military and political historian chiming in here.
Yes there is.
Authoritarianism is shit, end of.
Also funny you would say that under a vid about a game made by CDPR, who is Polish. Considering the forced 'relocation' of the Poles by the NatSocs, which put literal millions of Poles out of their homes to make way for German families to occupy...
Yeah, fuck off with that. NatSoc is just as garbage as the rest of the smoothbrain militarist authoritarian regime-making ideological and governmental policy-mills.
Never preorder, never buy day 1, never purchase microtransactions.
I took a peek into the fandom to see what the fuck is going on (I could literally give less than a shit about this game). I haven't seen Consoomers like this since the last Star Wars movie. I feel unclean just witnessing it. Honest to Christ, I have no idea how anyone can get this obsessively hyped over a game release in modern day when the higher the game budget, the lower the quality at release. I truly miss the days of old when I wouldn't even know about a game existing until seeing it on a store shelf or in a friend's Playstation, long before the days when gaming news was omnipresent and we hear about games from the moment the idea is conceived.
I promised myself after "Raw is War" many moons ago, that I would never get hyped for a game ever again. Excited and intrigued sure, but watching this happen over and over (No Man's Sky comes to mind), I'm over it.
I felt there would be problems.
I am a boomer with barely any contact with gaming news, and it felt like I could not get away from the ads and the hype videos for this friggin game.
I may not be the gamer that I used to be, but I still know over-schilling when I see it.
I do say, people were having fun with Skyrim
My brother-in-law has been salivating over this game since the first trailer dropped. It really puts his gaming habits into sharp focus. Honestly, he is basically the perfect gamer-- according to the game industry, that is. He lives for the hype train, constantly abandons games he buys for new games even if he's only played them for a short time, and will blindly defend his purchase of said new games even when they're absolute trash.
He bought Fallout 76, and showed it off to me in all its buggy glory, beaming with pride. "Oh, dude, it's cool, because look at this cool thing!" he said as he activated VATS to kill a ghoul, whose headless, T-posing body had partially merged with the ground and started vibrating at supersonic speed. He said, "Oh, those are scorchbeasts over there," as a re-skinned Skyrim dragon gracefully juddered and stuttered its way through the sky. "This is a pretty good RPG," he spoke, positively aglow, even though your choices don't really matter, since you can just re-stat yourself and completely change your appearance on the fly.
I laughed, and asked him if he remembered playing Fallout 4, because he had bought that too, when it came out. He did. I asked him how VATS worked in that game, and he responded that it stopped time to allow you to pick your shots. He became apoplectic when I suggested that, if it was supposed to allow you time to pick your shots, this version of VATS did not work at all, and was therefore pretty lame. "I DON'T HAVE TO JUSTIFY THIS GAME TO YOU!" Those were his words, exactly.
Now, to sum up this little trip down Memory Lane; I am not a betting man. I don't have a lot of confidence in my ability to predict outcomes most of the time, and prefer to just wait for the dust to settle first. But, after hearing about all the stuff going on with Cyberpunk, I would bet *SO MUCH MONEY* that I will hear those exact words from my brother-in-law again once the game comes out.
I really wanted to ask, did you win your bet?
@@lukestover2207 You bet your ass I did! I just lost my shit when the car he was in yeeted itself into orbit of its own accord, and the police just teleported in from thin air. His disappointment was palpable.
What a consoomer.
guess it's wait for a sale or a year for the "gAmE oF tHe YeAr" edition
honestly one look at CDPR HR department killed any hype I ever had for this game a year ago
What did their HR do? Was it some woke bull?
@@I_Cunt_Spell sounds like they’re the Everyman of gaming.
@@I_Cunt_Spell China treats their employees like slaves and we still carry our smart phones around.
Fun Fact: The Cyberpunk 2077 storage capacity is ALMOST as close to the same amount required to download the Countdown App from the "Countdown" (2019) movie [60 Gb].
When I first heard about this game and its development issues, it started to remind me of Watch Dogs. It too was supposed to be this innovative open world dystopian rpg where you could around and go do cool hacker stuff in it. Then, they started cutting out features and reducing the graphics, so much so that when the game finally launched, it was so disapointing that it was DOA. It sounds like that may be true about CP2077 as well.
Once again I'm validated in my position of not buying games on day one.
In b4 razor is taken to the back of the barn and put down by Yong 'Monotone' Yea and the polskis
And with a lot of the press wanting to take the company down a peg, it's uncertain if the glitches are real or like Anita's death threats: few but overblown to seem omnipresent.
It's an open world game made with an inhouse engine using a lot of experimental tech stitched together with Slav hopes and dreams. It's gonna be buggy. I hope that the game is awesome, I bought it and will play it day one, but glitches will be there. Though not a fan of how they handle reviews though.
I've seen a gameplay stream and several other clips.
Lots of random, significant bugs (such as clipping into a fence and instantly dying, and objects getting stuck in mid-air). Also certain elements (namely the vehicle physics and enemy AI) are in such bad shape that calling them "buggy" would be a compliment. The vehicle physics turns everything into bumper cars.
Overall I feel like this game is gonna end somewhere in the middle. Between 5-7.
@@doodguytheblank2403 really depending ones taste I guess, I personally think it can be an 8 to 9 (can be, not knowing it until i play it), cause so far I like what I see. But then again I have a soft spot for thr Cyberpunk genre.
If you watch any of the leaked gameplay, the bugs are constant, every stream I've seen(even post patch) have been incredibley buggy, the game is not finished.
"Anne Coulter's T-zone" 😂 whats wrong with her face?
Nothing, I'm sure other giraffes find her irresistible
@@plain_simple_garak Giraffe jokes? Come on, dude, that's a bit of a reach isn't it?
She looks like Beta Ray Bill.
One rare instances where the bugs could never take away its fun and replayability, is vampire the masquerade bloodlines.
Yo, the part about how building games is searching for "fun", and it's a difficult thing that doesn't necessarily come together in development process, is very insightful!
Game and Movie Trailers should be banned forever... .... game trailers especially piss me off, they never show the damn game, might as well be watching a 30 second movie based on game
and with movie trailers you dont even have to watch the movie
“It costs a lot to produce a bad product.”
- Norman Augustine former CEO of Lockheed Martin
I've been saying for months and months now, I'm more excited about the inevitable backlash when this fails to meet its astronomic hype than I am to actually play the game myself. Make some popcorn boys and girls, this gon be gud...
Never understood the hype of this game, honestly.
Justice for Max Moon
CDPROJEKTRED is Love.
CDPROJEKTRED is Lie. Uhm, I meant life.
I dunno why people simplify things.The management sucks , but the devs themselves are quite passionate.Why trash the the studio that makes good games?
@@ramantarasov715
When the game is a buggy tough to play mess the devs and everyone else involved get shitt
@@ramantarasov715 It's the cult-like following that concerns me. It made... two good games, yes, very good games. And now it has a cult following that can see no wrong in what they do. Mark my words, if this game turns out to be a good 8/10, they'll viciously attack anyone who denies it's a 10/10 GOTY/GOTC.
Remember that Bioware also could do no wrong at the times of Baldur's Gate 2. Then came NWN. NWN2. Suddenly they weren't so untouchable anymore. After that came Dragon Age which was heralded as the best thing ever, when it was inferior to Baldur's Gate in everything but graphics.
I do like CDPROJECKTRED, I don't like this Messiah complex."
@@tylerulfmann4586 I mean it's not what the employees are saying who have been equally disappointed with the studio but despite that a lot of people are still pulling for the game :oh and The Witcher sucks 😗
@@I_Cunt_Spell considering the fact that Witcher 3 is one of the most beloved and respected games of all time and it was their first attempt at making an open world, I’d say their coders know that they are doing.
Had endured the ceaseless waves of baseless adulation for this game so far prior to it ever even materializing as an actual, tangible thing that I could never have expected this to play out any differently.
Glad im not the only who sees Yongyea as the drama profiteer Sony/Kojima/CDPR shill that he is.
That polish lightbulb joke at the end had me chuckle so hard I had to retake my sensitivity training. Low hanging fruit made into a fine peach cobbler.
As excited as I am to finally play this game, I would be remiss in saying that part of me is terrified it won't live up to all of the hype. Some of the hype perhaps. But I'm still committed nuts deep into this game and I'll still find joy into diving into this particular universe. I mean fuck, I still like Fallout 4 even with all it's bugs and game crashes because the world of that game still draws me in. And unlike Senior Sterling who probably won't even play the game based on some highfalutin moral principle or some crap, I'll still play it... maybe after a patch or two.
I had a feeling the game would release in this state, which was why I never bought it.
While it is true that a game is better off not rushed out the gate, I've also noticed that delayed games within the last decade are largely deficient. When you look behind the scenes, it's usually not because the games were too large in scope or what have you, it's usually to due with the staff, and more importantly, the leadership and/or the lack of direction they bring to the table.
Least to say, I'm not surprised Cyberpunk came out as a buggy mess, given how this is the same studio that created the Witcher 3. As much as I enjoyed the game and it's story, it is often overlooked how ridiculously buggy the Witcher 3 was during release, and still is. How the Witcher 3 came out, and it's subsequent success, was practically a fluke.
Being someone who has made games with people in my spare time (Nothing monetary of course), I've learned how easy it is to bloat games with feature creep. As soon as I saw that they never released gameplay footage, I knew something was wrong.
You are making a game, not the next big bang, studios need to chillout (Looking at you Ubisoft) and produce content that is more focused and doesn't take 100 hours to beat (At least for single player games).
I had a feeling in my britches that something was off...sad to know I was right.
Remember kids... NEVER preorder.
Oof, can’t say I didn’t see this coming. Still, I was kinda pulling for her to come through. 8 years of development tells the fuckin tale with most of these games, that’s far too long.
Yeah True
Development hell
I'm going to wait to see the day one patch and what they do in the week post launch.
more like 3 years three times. oof
Yeah I’m going to wait for the day one patch and give it a week before I buy it.
I have faith in the game improving, even Witcher 3 was super jank when it first came out.
But muh keanu is so heccin valid and wholesome??????
YOU Have an upvote, you epicer chungus!
One of the cleverest statements was when an ign reviewer explicitly said "I envy those who will get to play the game first 6 months after release." [6 MONTHS]
Yeah because IGN is reliable.
He's not wrong. Ign still have it a 9 after that.
CD relied on their past glory from The Witcher 3 and on the presence of an actual Cyberpunk legend, Neo to sell this game and forgot to actually make it good.
"CDPR court jester Yong Yea.." Brilliant!
"More busted than Ann Coulter's t-zone". My Lord, man. I'm so glad I wasn't drinking anything when I heard that.
@@I_Cunt_Spell First off, that's a funny username, and second, it's a line that makes up your forehead, eyes, nose, and mouth.
46 gig day 1 patch. Que the Fire in the room "This is Fine" meme.
Edit: Massive hype almost always kills the experience. Stay off the manufactured Hype Trains guys.
Guess I'll be waiting until March when the new GPUs are actually in stock and most of the bugs are fixed. We waited this long, might as well.
Fuck scalpers.
Yea I've heard it can't even do 4k ultra on 3080.
That's a reasonable stance to have.
I think the "Miyamoto" quote is given under the assumption that the developers knowing what they're doing isn't in question, where time is the only notable variable. I mean, it is ostensibly about Nintendo.
I remember when skyrim came out, pornhub posted their site stats to show how successful skyrim launch was. When pornhub has a 30% drop, that's a good launch, bugs aside
Holy feth. I mean, jeebus I can't imagine any game with that kind of pull. Now I'm morbidly curious what the numbers here will be.
That gave a lot of ppl an excuse to say gamers are losers who stare at internet porn all day... when in reality it's only most gamers that are like that
The state of western men
”This is a polish studio, imagine the fortune they spend on lightbulbs” 😭😂😂
I find it odd that no one is making a stink about how CDPR is giving copyright strikes to youtubers (i was one of them) but when the les of us 2 did it, everyone in their mother have been making weeks worth complains because of copyright strikes (which i was also suffered from it).
People have always been all over CDPR’s dick for some reason. Witcher 3 was the most overrated game of the last generation. Doesn’t surprise me they are striking people’s content down, sounds like they are in damage control mode to protect preorders. Funny that they include a streamer friendly mode to stop people getting DMCA’d and then actively flag peoples videos. What a bunch of crooks.
Their doing it because some people got physical copies early. And they said do not stream it before launch. I haven't proffered the game (mostly cause I don't gave a system to play it on), byt in this instance its justified
Swalu Blue nah it’s not justified at all, people should be able to upload whatever they want if it doesn’t violate tos, it just makes it look like they have something to hide. Hope youtube gets flooded with videos showing off all the bugs and jank on launch day when there’s nothing they can do about it.
@@hardwatergaming7965 Thats probally whats going to happen. Again I'm just saying why their doing it
Investors want their money. Pretty much why it has come to this.
I can't wait to hear what Razor has to say about Star Citiscam, lol
He's already had plenty to say, you might wanna dig through the channel.
Last time I was this early, Hilary Clinton was at the printing press duplicating votes.
So many wounds reopened with the aforementioned Duke, Deus Ex, and Colonial Marines. Its a damn shame that Cyberpunk will most likely suck.
Im looking forward to the gameplay Razor!
"CD Project court jester Yong Yea..." 😂
@Someguy's CPU So if someone from ur nativity is dumb u ask them 'why dont u leave?' 'Why are u still here?' Ur logic goes both ways right? Allow smart immigrants and emigrate dumb native people?
8 years of development
Oh, that hype train crashed?
Well, at least we still have star citizen right?
*...Right?*
Lol
Finally someone calls YawnYea (stealing that nickname) what he is, CDPR's jester. And a cockrest for Kojima. When the Dorito Pope isn't taking that position.
Haha! That Shapiro joke took me a minute. Longer than it takes for his wife to turn into a desert at the mere sight of the half-pint.
Also, situations exactly like this are why I've taken on RGE's stance of never buying a game any sooner than six months after release.
Supposedly Witcher 3 turned into something great just a couple months before it's release. I think it might have given CDPR lead an impression that's how those things work, while in fact they were a bit lucky. I hope they know what they are doing rather than expecting the 11th hour magic.
A sandbox the size of Kotaku's credibility? Damn, that's small.
From my humble experience, game development is 20% coding, 80% testing.
@@I_Cunt_Spell Or maybe they had to cut back on the textures and animations to make space for more multicoloured dildos.
The levels of hype for this game are off the scales. No matter how good or bad the game turns out to be the people waiting for it will be horribly disappointed once it finally drops because they all seem to believe that the launch of this game will be some world changing event on par with man achieving space flight.
Just play Shadowrun Dragonfall. Atmospheric af and won't eat up all your free time.
No dong sliders in that game tho :(
Good game.
The “In Shapiro” joke was awesome.
I didn't get that one
I didn't get it either.
@@TheSlammurai I realised later he just meant "in short" 😂
@@ItsGwame Oh, thanks. LOL
Be so rad of they delayed it tomorrow.
Man that would make me laugh so hard.
That would make me laugh harder than I do watching drone strike footage
That Amber prenup joke was ahead of its time lol 😆
To this day, I keep forgetting Duke Nukem Forever came out.
SO SAY WE ALL!
Good looking out Razor. A heads up about potential fuckery is always appreciated before we spend our sparse spare cash.
I'm still excited for it but it's funny seeing people try and defend this buggy ass mess.
This shit sounds like something Bethesda would do. Given what I've heard about CD Projekt Red, I'd expect better from them.
@@I_Cunt_Spell I personally don't trust any AAA dev anymore. I had no intentions no buying Cyberpunk anyway. I'm gonna stick with modding the games I have and if ai do buy new, I'll be looking almost exclusively at indies.
lmao this thread. You thought CDPR was better BECAUSE of Witcher 3.
@@samsh0-q3a I never played Witcher 3 or any other CRPR game. But I did hear good things about it. Hence why I thought they were at least marginally competent for a AAA dev. But I seem to have been given an overly optimistic opinion of them.
@@I_Cunt_Spell Bruh you're on drugs. That game is beloved for a reason.
Just got your book in the post, over here in UK. Started reading it last night. Loving it so far.
ACM still hurts me till this day. All that hype and potential those damn pre-release trailers were so damn good only for it to turn to shit.
But man it’s kind of funny to hear what a buggy ass mess CP77 turned out to be despite a last minute delay. I generally can’t imagine what it’s gonna play like on my ps4, but hey I’m actually glad they last minute delayed. Killed the shit out of my hype.
I wondered why Angry Joe wasn't given a preview copy, now I know, thank you.
Whether you like Angry Joe's humour or not, you must see that he gives his honest opinion, so this explains it.