Why you cannot compare OTR to local gig work | cargo van business
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- Опубліковано 13 гру 2023
- I have been in business for nearly an entire year. I learn from my own experiences and do all my own research. It is very important to do what you want to do, not what someone else wants you to do. You have a responsibility to be responsible and know what is profitable for your business. Do not worry about what others say or think, follow your heart and do what's best for you.
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Definitely can relate to not listening to people. I joined the military straight out of HS and of course everyone was terrified. I have great benefits and experiences because of it. I also started out in transportation as a 18 wheel company driver OTR which also scared everyone (in their defense im a 4 ft 11 female) lol but now I am ready to start my own sprinter van business which because of the military I have the benefit of specialized SBA grants for vets and advantage with obtaining federal contracts. DO NOT LET PEOPLE PROJECT THEIR FEARS ONTO YOU. The most successful people in the world will have a failed attempt story 99% of the time. Knowledge is the key to it all.
Very inspirational my friend, well done, thank you!
I'm at the very beginning of starting a cargo van business, done a lot of work/research and looking at vans to buy to move this into reality.
I am not looking to become some multimillionaire I just never want to work for some idiot who thinks he is so much better than me because he's a boss.
You are a good man and God bless you and God bless your future, I wish you all the best in your future.
Thanks for the inspiring words!
Perfect mindset, staying humble will take you a long ways. Don't chase the money, let God bring it to you. Appreciate your support, you will do great 👍🏾
direct shippers or forwarders is key.
We have our llc & insurance we can easily become just like dispatch, dolly,frayt ect. Networking.❤
Exactly, just like direct bookings with customers is 10 times better than connecting with customers thru gig apps. Same for OTR, connecting directly with shippers is key. Appreciate that 👍🏾
@@BigCJCargoVan ur definitely on the righteous path for abundant blessings brother 🙏
This video was superior! This was more beneficial and uplifting than most other UA-camrs out there on this subject. The encouragement alone was palpable, and motivated me further. Thank You CJ.
Thanks, appreciate that 👍🏾
I’m in the first phase of starting my cargo van business and thank you for the advice peace ✌️
Great video! I always enjoy your content I don’t comment much but this was good and needed to be said . I’m starting my cargo van business soon and you always drop good food for thought
Appreciate you and your honesty, means a lot to me. Best wishes to you and your new journey 👍🏾
Great Video!! I can't wait to check out your other vids. Keep them coming bro
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If you get into this business your main goal is to work directly with customers.... Saves them money and you build a lasting partnership and make better money. I get using a broker or dispatch to get going but dont be scared to get on the phone or go in person to see if you're able to work with them.. Most customers pay net 30 so understand that also.
Great video my friend I love your content its super helpful to me . I am in the research part of starting my business now i'm retiring from my job and looking to keep busy growing my own cargo van business. thanks for sharing your journey with me.
AWESOME REVIEW BROTHER! You nailed it on the points! Keep up the awesome vids ! Your on the right path for success!
Thank you for your support 👍🏾
I love your videos but you worry about ppl in the comments to much
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Appreciate the support 👍🏾. To be honest, I'm not worried about anybody. Comments are seen by everyone, I try to address comments that can hinder those who are already nervous about getting into this business. Trust me, no comment fades me, I do the videos I do for the sake of the weak minded. I'm straight.
@@BigCJCargoVanappreciate you king 👑 keep them coming
Hey whatsup how can we connect?
Thanks CJ for taking time out to do this video, helping me to keep my eye on the prize of becoming a business owner myself.
Hey, really appreciate that. Keep doing your research, I truly wish you the best 👍🏾
I love your spirit G, keep serving your customers bro. You'll keep having money regardless because of it!
Appreciate that, I believe you, that means a lot 🙏🏾, thank you. I like how you mentioned spirit, you are absolutely right, God favored me with a good spirit. Appreciate you 👍🏾
Thank you bro God bless you. very inspirational content 🙏🏽👍🏽🙌🏽
Thank you 👍🏾
Great video and info. Love it
Thank you 👍🏾
You dropped some gems in this one man I love it
Nice, appreciate you 👍🏾
Been following you from the beginning. I do have to say I am guilty of not hitting the "thumbs up" after some of the videos you post and I apologize for that. Will do better in the future. My journey will start soon. I'm so looking forward to working hard for myself. I'm in the Chicago area and looking forward to letting you know how much your channel has helped me. Its a steady progression of your experience/journey thats so helpful to people like me, thank you brother.
No need to apologize, those thumbs up help push videos out to others. You being a long-time supporter is much appreciated. I truly hope you have great success and wish you the best. Thank you 👍🏾
@carlosnw37 my Question to you is have you started & how’s it going so far?
2nd Question is how’s the market in Chicago I’m asking you bcuz I’m next door to you in Milwaukee Wisconsin & ready to get in gig apping.. hope I hear from you soon 👍🏿👍🏿
True, true, true, true, about ROADIE. I have been with them for 7+/- years, and they have changed throughout my time with them, we used be able to bid on deliveries.
Overall, it's still pretty good.
Like you, I am a part of many GIGS.
Enjoy!
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Appreciate the info, stay safe out there.
That was a deep video, inspirational, informative, 👍🏽
Appreciate you 👍🏾
Gr8 Vid Brother.
I have thought about that kind of work as im getting older! GOD Bless you and yours!😇😁
Appreciate you 👍🏾
Your a great man, God bless, keep being positive. 👍
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Another good video once again. You forgot to mention the brokers too when dealing with OTR. You have to go through them with the negotiations of pay and I’ve heard they can be something else….ijs. I love your content that’s why I bought me a mini van to start with. I bought the Dodge Grand Caravan where all the seats go down so I’m not as limited as some SUVs or other mini vans, plus it’s a tax write off. Let’s Go!!!
Very very smart, nice move. I have a Kia Sedona and it provides incredible space with those seats down. Yes, brokers are a pain and very difficult to deal with. Best wishes to you on your journey, LETS GO! 👍🏾
Nice video, good stuff thanks👍🏾
Appreciate that, thanks 👍🏾
Amazing 👏
Great content Good Energy, Good brother. Much success to you in 2024….
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I maximize all my resources gig work is robbing the drivers all y’all need to go set up yall LLC etc and learn how to use load boards etc most the loads I’m getting now days I deal with the shippers no brokers I’m in bed with these people and then I get on my apps at the end of the day
Everyone needs to do whatever they want to do.
Just a small clarification... You do not need a MC number to work OTR. You can work under the MC number of a carrier. Everything else you said sounds about right.
Pay attention he said that
@@user-jk5dp2rw5m That is why I offered a small clarification and not a correction.
All good, yes correct, you do not need to have your own authority.
You and few others on here motivated me to take this chance and i have and no complaints videos will be coming soon. But 1ST FRAYT ORDER YESTERDAY 35 MILES FOR 216.70 couldn't believe it!!! Thank you all keep goin big CJ Texas in the building!!!
That is incredible, really happy for you. I remember that feeling you have right now. Keep that energy up and go get that money 👍🏾
@BigCJCargoVan most def will my man. Keep motivating us and keep them videos rolling out we need ya!.
How big was the FRAYT order I am currently waiting to get approved in Houston
Thank you brother for your video, but I do OTR and have no issue getting loads via bid process. There are a lot of misnomers about otr , but in time we learn.
That's great. Unfortunately, everyone can't say the same. I'm glad you have no trouble getting loads. Everyone has to find their own niche. Appreciate the comment 👍🏾
Think for yourself and do for yourself 💯
Always, yes Sirrrr 👍🏾
What up Big CJ!! Love the videos bro and thank you for your service!! I wanted to ask how you invoice, provide receipts and quotes for direct hire gigs?
Keep on doing your thing bro 🤝
That is an excellent question. I'm actually going to answer that on a video, stay tuned 👍🏾
my man!
Amen to experience
Perfect!
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100% facts 👍
Appreciate you 💯
I hope I come across you one day I’ve been looking to get into the business just need some guidance. I see that you in San Antonio. Same as me hopefully one day we can talk more on business be safe out there
You probably will, I'm all over the place 👍🏾
Generational Wealth!!!!🚀🚀🚀
Amen, that's the American dream 👍🏾
Respect.
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I'm a 41 year old black man and growing up me and my cousins never had anybody talking to us about joining the military 🪖 instead we watched are older cousins and uncles run the streets so that's what we did. And now I kick myself in the butt for not knowing that avenue and taking a leap of faith and enlisting. I could have 20 years in and retired. smdh we men gotta do better at teaching our youth
💯 all the way. Thank God I had a smart high-school girlfriend during that time that talked some sense into me about joining. Best decision I made as a young man. I hope mainly young black men and women and minorities really consider joining to get off those streets. Life long Benifits, it's well worth it. Appreciate you 👍🏾
If you aint otr they not giving you the good local freight...i said what i said !😅 when i come to ya city the dispatcher gonna make sure i eat. The dispatcher dont need local drivers. He is subject to otr runners😂
Thanks for sharing
I am so glad you said the part about. "Lets collectively refuse orders to force a change" when it comes to gig apps. It's something that gets on my nerves frankly. How do you know if you are really forcing a change?
Gig apps I don't believe refusing orders will make a change. OTR, yes you can force higher pay if everyone cooperates.
@BigCJCargoVan right. I caught that after I posted. It underscores your point that there's a structure to things, and it has to be noted.
Great video #supportveteranownedbusiness
Appreciate you 👍🏾 🫡
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Brother my family love you as inspiration to all the people who are struggling to make both ends meet. I am 55 and wants to join the OTR. Me and my friend are willing and dedicated drivers wants to work as a team . Any information would be highly appreciate
This conversation I need because I don’t want be away from my family doing otr and very simple person just want make paycheck cover me but if need make more but my cut hour is 10 pm. No overnight driving for me
Absolutely, do what makes you happy. Find your niche and master it. I'm trying to master the local work my way.
@@BigCJCargoVan. You will I getting use too see beautiful facility but small simple thing and beautiful town out my city. One day I want visit Texas I heard a lot great thing about that state
A good man leaves an inheritance to his children's children: and the wealth of the sinner is laid up for the just. MISHLEI 13:22-22 את CEPHER
Blessings king 👑
Appreciate that 👍🏾
From yesterday I was waiting to see your video. What you wanted to talk about to get some insight on what you're saying I have one question. Is that why you charge rental fee for your vehicle? And is it the same price no matter what the item is or does that fluctuate as well?
To be honest, my leasing fee is based on the miles I have to drive, or if it's a last-minute request. I find clever ways to add additional pay. My rate is $40 per hour. I added the leasing fee for the Christmas tree even tho it was a short drive because it was a last-minute booking. Make the customer feel that you have to bend over backward to squeeze them in your tight schedule, and they will always pay more. The rate changes based on the miles I have to drive. So anything in San Antonio city limits will be $25 flat rate, long as it's less than 25 miles. I use my rate sheet if it's a long drive. My leasing fee will be based on that. I call it leasing fee because Taskrabbit does not allow you to charge for miles, but that's what it is. I'm charging them for the miles as a leasing fee. Basically, leasing fee = milage rate.
@@BigCJCargoVan ok cool
Every owner operator have a choice to say no... it's people like you who take those low paying gigs who messed up the industry
Key word, Owner Operator, I can do whatever I want. You should focus on you, not me.
Just continue to laugh at the hater big Cj you doing gig apps bro makin they salary that’s why the babies salty 🤣🤣 keep going brother I’m behind you I love to see brothers winning I got a heart of gold they call mr.extra mile cuz everything my all I put god first then myself then my family three codes I live by and I make sure I pray read my word and I put all my faith in god
Absolutely, appreciate your support. I am doing so much better than before. Best wishes to you 👍🏾
If you never did otr How can you comment on it. If a gig comes out & you turn it down because it's not paying enough by your standards. How does that make the next person that takes it thirsty???
To answer your 1st question, I do have experience with otr. I went through the entire process of getting my authority and bidding on loads. I never ran an interstate load because of the bidding process. I've delt with brokers, bad business and bad rates. I learn and listen to experienced otr drivers as I recommend new drivers do. I increased my knowledge by actually studying and researching otr. I speak through experience, knowledge, and educating myself on the subject. If there is anything I said about otr is not true, please let me know, I'd like to know what you don't agree with. 2nd part is I think you should watch my video again. I referenced Thirsty to OTR drivers, not gig apps. Being thirsty is not a part of gig apps.
Does dlivrd not require drivers to setup at the drop off?
You are required to set up unless the customer declines.
Over the road always make more than local..
Very ignorant statement. I'll stick with local work. I know local drivers making otr pay in 1 or 2 days, way less overhead. Sleeping in they beds every night.
I have a question of goshare.i know there's two apps to goshare.are they different cause I was asked if I had a dolly palletjack etc?is that right?do we need someone that stuff to get started? What if we just want to makedelivries?
Not sure I understand your question, but GoShare does not require you to have special equipment unless that has changed since I signed up. Pallet jack is not needed unless you have a box truck, a pallet jack would be useful. If you are signing up as a helper only, you do not need any equipment, you will only help the driver with the delivery vehicle. If you are applying to be a delivery driver, you need a pickup truck, cargo van or box truck. It is recommended to have a furniture Dolly, handcart, and straps at minimum. Hope that answers your question
Please get to the point
Did you buy or lease the Van, how's the cost of insurance.
Purchased my van, I have a full video on that. Commercial insurance is about $390 per month.
You are new to this you never been over the road.. those gig apps don't pay.
Good, then don't do it.
How do you do medical insurance for your self?
I am covered through the military. I get military benefits and quality for free healthcare.
I think you are little unclear on how gig companies work. They are a carrier company like any other carrier comany. They join other carrier companies to make more money. Example, when you see are order ony Frayt, Roadie, Goshare, etc. There is one comany you see all the time. Who is that? "Onerail!" Onerail has a national contract with all the big companies like American tire Distributors, Lowe's, Sherwin Williams. All the other companies you pick up from is more than likely there own customer but not investors.
Also, I'm not going to blame content creators on saturating the maket. I feel its just how people network with other people. I've been told on a few apps just talking with other people.
Last but least, stop worrying what people say. Unfortunately, we as people can be your worst enemy if you let us get in your head. Quit letting negativity get to you. You say your are a man of God, what would Jesus do with all that negativity?
Keep your focus, its what got you where your are today.
Thank you for your comment, but I do understand how the gigs work. I am fully aware of onerail, infact they hire independent contractor drivers directly. I know a driver in my market who works directly with onerail, and the pay is even worse, straight trash. The gig companies were started by entrepreneurs, and investors. All this info can be researched online. Yes many have sub contacts with onerail but they also have their own direct contracts. Private citizens like you and me can also place orders on the platform, you do not have to go through onerail. Also, comments Don't bother me, All comments can be seen by everyone. I address certain topics for the sake of the weak minded. Those who can be discouraged by negative people. I want those looking into the business to think for themselves and not let others think for them. Has no effect on me, I'm going to do what I'm going to do no matter what.
Bro what are u talking about it’s the same thing except when u on these apps your money is stepped on this is coming from a man who actually has a logistics company and half they family ben having logistics company dump trucks ,Peter builts etc son wayy since the 80’s wayy before gig apps now coming from a dude who actually have a logistics I do my thing threw out the day and then jump on the apps and pick and choose what orders I’ve literally hauled so much of the Sam stuff that hauled in my van on my own or on my flatbed way less money literally
Thank you for your comment, I actually said that.
Did you set up a LLC?
Yes, did that when I first started back in January of 2023.
This is 1099 taxes. Do you put away 30% of that daily payment away to pay taxes? I hear 1099 takes a big %
I put about 20% away, but after my 1st year, I paid zero taxes. I had enough write-offs that I owed zero in taxes. I even received a return. Learning the tax game is huge, don't believe everything you hear.
Big CJ is Lazy
Thank you
I agree and disagree , In 2020 I was early with all the gig app like dispatchit and the were moving items for big name like ABC , and the hvac etc pay well local and volume where I start a 6am and last order came be 3pm and I can clear $260-350 on average a day and if you hit jackpot and get a order out of state I've seen my partner go 800miles for $1600 . Then once they grew you orders got cheaper like $25-40 and the tried to give you a so call bonus if you took more order and you get paid on the back end. Then I that ship started to sink I through the grass would be greener on the OTR side and I full for snakes , scamers, crooks, and gate keepers. There never going to be a moment that drivers have control OTR because the brokers play chess not checkers , and see the people all day in these groups with the new van that have to get paid for you they know it well always someone to take the load cheap . The moral to this is take the meat spit out the bones , use the app or Dispatch service that's robbing you blind to to lead you to the shipper and get your direct connection . I weather the storm and I use them all deal with the ones cutting the checks.
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Hey there Sir, I'm looking to branch off into what you're doing. I currently drive OTR (18 wheeler) for 3yrs. My question is how do I get started without having the experience in this area? Thanks for your time.
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