The Desperate Loneliness of Zeke Yeager

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  • @Aleczandxr
    @Aleczandxr  2 роки тому +88

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    • @michaelyu6250
      @michaelyu6250 2 роки тому +2

      Don't mind me, I'm just here to drink the tears of IRL Yeagerists because there won't be an anime-original ending to the adaptation :D

    • @contemptman3646
      @contemptman3646 2 роки тому +2

      A common problem with the Attack on Titan fandom is criticizing characters for not doing the "correct" thing in positions where so many emotions are at play. It's the end of the world people, these human beings are not robots. Connie, Mikasa, Hange, etc. They're not going to act on logic 100% of the time. Such a bizarre criticism.
      Anyways Zeke is well-written and I think he's great.

    • @easschung9442
      @easschung9442 2 роки тому +1

      @Dark Tobi He doesn't take requests from comments.

    • @voodiethemoody
      @voodiethemoody 2 роки тому

      Dear Aleczandxr, I now have two HxH videos that I'd love you to see! One on a theory that Meleoron is Gyro, and one on Togashi's inability to write and connect with his female characters. Would massively appreciate if you would watch them! Thank you so much

    • @bestguyever6465
      @bestguyever6465 2 роки тому

      Hey Alex I was wondering if there would be any microphones or a computer you'd recommend as I'm trying to get into making videos for UA-cam and always thought your mic quality on your videos was really nice.
      Also thanks for getting me to watch a lot of great shows over the years. Cheers.

  • @potatoprodutions7871
    @potatoprodutions7871 2 роки тому +808

    The most fascinating part of this aspect of the show, to me, is that Zeke could've won. He could've had everything, with total ease. He was there with the Founding Titan's power and all the time in the world before Eren got there. And yet, for seemingly no reason in particular, he chose to wait for Eren to get there and be tested. Is this because Zeke is really just a fool? Because he was just too cocky? No. It's because in reality, "saving the world" never meant nearly as much to Zeke as having someone to reassure him that he was doing good.

    • @darencolby1916
      @darencolby1916 2 роки тому +61

      Damn, spot on

    • @carlotaker2215
      @carlotaker2215 2 роки тому +38

      Man really wake up and speak straight facts

    • @aidanierullo8685
      @aidanierullo8685 2 роки тому +62

      Wow, so well said. This just reminded me of all the other characters who play out this theme. Reiner claimed to participate in the attack on paradis to save the world but his true motivation was to find validation and respect among his peers and his Marleyan father. When Eren met him underground he expresses this and Eren recognizes they are the same, as Eren was always more concerned with attaining his own freedom over restoring Eldia. Just an incredible story that gets better every time you think about it.

    • @Meekmillan
      @Meekmillan 2 роки тому +7

      Can I send you my girlfriends texts? Maybe you can figure out what the hell she means by this stuff

    • @samueloak1600
      @samueloak1600 2 роки тому

      @@Meekmillan wdym?

  • @contemptman3646
    @contemptman3646 2 роки тому +741

    A common problem with the Attack on Titan fandom is criticizing characters for not doing the "correct" thing in positions where so many emotions are at play. It's the end of the world people, these human beings are not robots. Connie, Mikasa, Hange, etc. They're not going to act on logic 100% of the time. Such a bizarre criticism.
    Anyways Zeke is well-written and I think he's great.

    • @easschung9442
      @easschung9442 2 роки тому +33

      Absolute truth

    • @nemu3377
      @nemu3377 2 роки тому +22

      YOU'RE SO RIGHT

    • @dreadrath
      @dreadrath 2 роки тому +50

      Classic case of hindsight. People will talk about what So-and-so "Should have done" all day long since they have all the information after its all said and done.

    • @DoomAtDusk
      @DoomAtDusk 2 роки тому +23

      Really? That's surprising. I love the fact that the characters are flawed people that can make horrible mistakes that they regret.

    • @wanna-be-thinker2377
      @wanna-be-thinker2377 2 роки тому +47

      @@DoomAtDusk That's the great contradiction in the fandom (and other fandoms too). They want "flawed" characters, yet at the same time want them to be "perfect" and "pure" too. They want the impossible. They also want characters that justify their view on things as well, one way or another.

  • @mariapazgonzalezlesme
    @mariapazgonzalezlesme 2 роки тому +725

    This what made feel for Zeke's human side. His longing for familiar love was a resulted of the terrible upbringing from Grisha. I truly believed that Zeke cared about Eren, he didn't want for him to suffer and alone like he did. But as you mentioned, that love while geniune, it also a projection to don't feel no longer lonely.

    • @GabeSweetMan
      @GabeSweetMan 2 роки тому +13

      Despite English obviously being a second language for you, I still understood exactly what you meant to say. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

    • @wanna-be-thinker2377
      @wanna-be-thinker2377 2 роки тому +12

      Unfortunately, for Zeke there were two things preventing him from "bonding" with Eren (besides his plan of course). 1.) Eren, of course, hates his guts; always have, always will. 2.) By the time of their second meeting, and Zeke starts to make his move or both bonding with him and pushing toward his main goal, Eren had already started HIS plan, and had decided to keep everyone close, or wanted to get close him, at a distance, then, when the time comes, push them all AWAY.
      And just when it appears both are in reach of their opposing goals (via the Rumbling), Zeke picks THAT TIME to try and give closer to his brother and bond with him for real. Ironically. Armin and Mikasa, having become so worried about his behavior, are trying to talk to Eren and stay close to him. But unfortunately for all of them, Eren, now able to grasp his goal, sees any attempt of concern for, affection, and even any type of communication with him as an distraction. He is so committed to his plan that, in order to stay focused on it, he pushes everyone away as far as he possibly can. Even the memories of those he lost that were close to him, he pushes all of that far, far, to the back. So just when Zeke tries to get close to him, and then tries to "save" him, Eren was letting him know, and every else know, don't try to save him, don't try to talk to him, and don't try to get close to him, just go away.
      And Zeke is the only characters to see, or try to see, something similar between them and Eren (Armin, Reiner, etc., even Jean to some small extent). And there are some things Eren have/had in common with other characters, but also way too many differences too. But just like Armin was initially too blind to those difference due to being his brother, and was like a brother to him, Zeke never could see them, both due to what's mentioned in the video, and because he tried so hard to be his big brother, since he was now the only family he had left in the world, and his last chance for "familiar bonds." Meanwhile, others (like Jean and the series' suicidal punching bag Reiner) would see some of those difference and get terrified.
      What worse with Zeke is almost everyone used (ironic since he tried to use everyone else). The one person he was close to, and all those he wanted to be close to, all used him. His parents, his grandparents, his "adapted father," and in the end his younger brother. (And of course Marley and Paradis just wanted to use him too, just like he wanted to use all of them.) He wanted a relationship full of love, but mostly get relationship full of using.

    • @JoseRamirez-ew7vq
      @JoseRamirez-ew7vq 2 роки тому +15

      @@wanna-be-thinker2377 Eren never hated zeke, he just doesn't respect him

    • @thallthall1478
      @thallthall1478 2 роки тому +2

      @@wanna-be-thinker2377 why would Eren hate zeke lol

    • @femalerevan
      @femalerevan 10 місяців тому +5

      ​​​@@wanna-be-thinker2377 You got it except Eren didn't hate Zeke. Zeke got the healing for his daddy issues ONLY because Eren allowed Grisha to see Zeke. He dragged Zeke and his daddy issues after Zeke kept him trapped on a YEARS long paths trip insisting Eren was brainwashed. Eren dragging Zeke is ironically younger sibling behavior to a condescending older sibling. That's the funny part. My opinion is that Eren pitied Zeke, then grew very annoyed with his condescension during paths, and still gave him back the thing needed to heal Zeke's inner child.

  • @NaturalHypertrophy
    @NaturalHypertrophy 2 роки тому +379

    I had entirely forgotten the scene in the manga during which Grisha hugs Zeke, but seeing it animated made me realize its importance: all he wanted was to be loved by his father, the true motives behind his genocidal ideation taking roots in the generational trauma he experienced as a kid that he then projected onto humanity as a whole. Because he had suffered as a child, he decided that ending the Eldian line would prevent people everywhere from experiencing a similar type of pain. If Existence = Pain, then the only way to ease suffering is to erase the concept of Existence itself.

  • @XxBazicxX
    @XxBazicxX 2 роки тому +160

    I think the most emotional thing is that Zeke thought that Grisha loved Eren more because he simply cared more about his second son. But the truth that he realized when Grisha hugged him is that Grisha loved Eren because he wants to express his love for his first child through him

  • @haru.4267
    @haru.4267 2 роки тому +139

    Zeke, ever since his backstory was revealed, has struck me as three things: lonely, and broken beyond the point of no return, yet incredibly kind. Desperately looking for his father’s love while pleasing everyone, such as his grandparents, and essentially yearning for the Euthanisation plan out of a kindness that has been twisted by trauma and hate.
    He is, without a doubt, one of AoT’s most tragic characters: this is what discrimination and abuse create at the end of the day. People so fundamentally broken they think death is salvation.

    • @rishabhanand4973
      @rishabhanand4973 Рік тому +4

      and honestly, if i had the life that zeke did, i probably would rather be dead, or preferably, never been born.

    • @xtermnyjk
      @xtermnyjk Рік тому

      @@rishabhanand4973 you would like to no longer suffer, that's what death would be, but ideally, one would like to never be born to even get the chance to suffer in the first place

  • @MonkeyDLuis-jh1sg
    @MonkeyDLuis-jh1sg 2 роки тому +437

    Even if the words were harsh, Eren hit the nail in the head about Zeke being trapped in the past due to his traumas.
    Zeke's ideology was never quite his own as it was planted to him by someone else

    • @michaelyu6250
      @michaelyu6250 2 роки тому +65

      No one's ideology is totally their own. Zeke, Eren, Levi, Erwin, Mikasa, Floch. Everyone is the way they are because of their experiences.

    • @alwinorallose5134
      @alwinorallose5134 2 роки тому +8

      @@michaelyu6250 I dunno man didnt Eren say that he was born that way though? The others true tho.

    • @justmyopinion79
      @justmyopinion79 2 роки тому +56

      @@alwinorallose5134 Just because Eren said it doesn't mean it's totally true. It's true that he's been that way since birth, but the events in his life are what caused him to do the Rumbling as well. He is formed by experiences too, just not as much as Zeke. Alec explains it in his video on the False Mask of Eren Yeager. ua-cam.com/video/4l6rl61fPV4/v-deo.html

    • @cuneyt3830
      @cuneyt3830 2 роки тому +4

      pretty sure zeke asked if it was possible to euthinize all eldians so it was, even tho his expereinces influenced it. it wasnt based on someone else

    • @jwalkblue7
      @jwalkblue7 2 роки тому

      @@alwinorallose5134 Anime only I'm assuming? More to come on Eren's motivations.

  • @simonsalazar9336
    @simonsalazar9336 2 роки тому +236

    When you think about how Zeke's life was, you can't help but feel heartbroken by how much suffering Zeke was going through

    • @michaelyu6250
      @michaelyu6250 2 роки тому +10

      The scenes of him looking at fathers and sons..

    • @nonanimeprofilepic
      @nonanimeprofilepic 2 роки тому +9

      he is still a discpicable person killing all the scout troops and turning connies villiage into titans claiming he is saving them from killing them is no different from murder

    • @dreadrath
      @dreadrath 2 роки тому +12

      Alas there's very few prominent characters in this series who haven't done horrible shit to others either directly or indirectly for reasons they saw as right, or at least been accomplices to it. Such is the nature of the horrible bloody world of AOT. Its kind of fun watching people go loopy trying to apply morality to the actions of these characters in either defense or criticism of them. To justify or to vilify seems to usually be the main objective of viewers, its rare to see people just take characters for what they are in the bigger picture with neutrality since that's not really how our minds work.

    • @wait_in_gold_ON_SPOTIFY
      @wait_in_gold_ON_SPOTIFY 2 роки тому +1

      Yup. I’m not gonna say he was “redeemed”, but I do completely understand him

    • @wanna-be-thinker2377
      @wanna-be-thinker2377 2 роки тому +2

      People are too use to plots that have a definitive good guy and bad guy, so will apply that to every plot.

  • @samiai8905
    @samiai8905 2 роки тому +53

    I loved how Isayama had a chance to make Zeke the final boss but chose every possible way to not do so. Zeke is such a fascinating character and his VA really brought him to life. Zeke and Takasugi would have much to talk about

  • @brothers_of_nod
    @brothers_of_nod 2 роки тому +70

    Zeke is one of the countless people in AOT that deserved better, their characters were beautiful tragedies and pinnacles of writing, and you just wish you could have given them more

    • @mrreyes5004
      @mrreyes5004 Рік тому +2

      I mean, after what he did to Mike, I really can't agree that he deserved better. Other than maybe Levi putting Zeke out of his misery a bit earlier.

  • @bobbyzamora6389
    @bobbyzamora6389 2 роки тому +109

    Zeke is simultaneously one of the most villainous and most sympathetic characters in the story

    • @rubyred186
      @rubyred186 2 роки тому +23

      I would say not villainous. But one of the most sympathetic antagonist. Aot after the time skip shown him as just one of the gray human characters in this show. He has his own moral compass and empathy not to put in the villainous category. Heck, I would say he is not at all a villain after the final chapters.

  • @ThePanzerFreak5
    @ThePanzerFreak5 2 роки тому +29

    Finally some Zeke love. He's truly my favorite character from the show.

  • @notationmusical
    @notationmusical 2 роки тому +58

    Ksaver told Zeke that his parents never loved him.
    But again, that has been proven wrong when Grisha hugs Zeke and says, "I love you"
    Not "I have always loved you", because while I think Grisha at least had some care for Zeke, his love for Zeke was not shown, but just a simple "I love you".
    And man, I love that hug scene. Grisha clings on to Zeke begging for forgiveness for being a horrible father to Zeke, but accepting forgiveness seems to be too late so Zeke can't return the hug. But just the gesture while accepting the fact that his father had changed forms tears in Zeke's eyes as he calls Grisha "Father" for possibly the last time.

    • @sonicdash761
      @sonicdash761 2 роки тому +7

      Tbf, even Grisha questioned whether he saw Zeke as the frightened child he was or simply a child of royal blood and considered himself “foolish” and a terrible father.

  • @shock2042
    @shock2042 2 роки тому +86

    Zeke is, alongside with Reiner, the best written character on AoT

    • @harsh_1910
      @harsh_1910 2 роки тому +1

      Reiner just has split personality he isn't that well written grisha, eren and even armin are much better examples

    • @slayer6225
      @slayer6225 2 роки тому +44

      @@harsh_1910 Reiner is much more than just split personality lol

    • @harsh_1910
      @harsh_1910 2 роки тому +2

      @@slayer6225 that was hyperbole and reiner is decent but he's very overrated

    • @RobertEdwinHouse9
      @RobertEdwinHouse9 2 роки тому +9

      @@harsh_1910 wrong

    • @FullyOnVolks
      @FullyOnVolks 2 роки тому +4

      @@harsh_1910 agreed. I think Reiner had a lot more potential for many topics Isayama could’ve used him for.
      Not gonna go into manga spoilers tho, and just my opinion

  • @beastvicious8672
    @beastvicious8672 2 роки тому +125

    Zeke is such a great character, he's really grown on me over time! I never related with his motivation and his goal. Pretty much on Eren's side regarding that. But the anime has really made me emphasize more with Zeke as a character. He's a great contrast to Eren, representing the complete opposite. Zeke pretty much embodies the theme of nihilism, where as Eren is about having a birth-right. Manga spoiler below:
    Armin's speech to Zeke also encapsulates what Zeke was missing. Always looking for a way to end things, rather than how to move forward. In that sense Eren and Armin are very alike. Still hoping for an Armin video one day! Maybe when his speech has been animated. He's a top 3 character imo, a lot of people underestimate his importance.

    • @justcatu9107
      @justcatu9107 2 роки тому +11

      Not only mentioning that Armin is the one who fueled the interest of Eren about the outside, what lies beyond and basically the urges of his libertarian persona.

    • @seg162
      @seg162 2 роки тому +4

      Underestimate?
      Man, they just _dump_ on the fella.

    • @seg162
      @seg162 2 роки тому +3

      @@justcatu9107 Li--libertarian?
      I dunno man, it doesn't look like Eren's a big fan of the NAP.

    • @beastvicious8672
      @beastvicious8672 2 роки тому

      @@seg162 He's a liberator of his people. He thinks it's better to be dead, than to live under oppression. Though politically Eren would better be described as a nationalist, without the religious and traditional aspect.

  • @neardarkroad1347
    @neardarkroad1347 2 роки тому +35

    Zeke character scares me, I feel like I'm seeing a mirror version of myself, who hope for my ideal version of parent yet never got to experience it. My parents are not abusive but not exactly the kind of parents that would care to listen to emotional confession.

  • @quirinoguy8665
    @quirinoguy8665 2 роки тому +37

    Zeke is probably the character that hits the hardest for me especially since me and the boys had some pretty unsavory fathers who have different families to say the least...

  • @justmyopinion79
    @justmyopinion79 2 роки тому +45

    Attack on Titan will go down as a modern masterpiece, like it or not.

    • @seemonuzumaki723
      @seemonuzumaki723 2 роки тому +6

      People hated Evangelion's ending too when it first came out (movie and series)

    • @seg162
      @seg162 2 роки тому +4

      @@seemonuzumaki723 Well, certainly, people didn't like the series ending because it was produced on a shoestring budget because their sponsors bailed at a bad time (IIRC). But I thought the movie was well-received.
      With that said, I'm hesitant to say that AOT will go down as a _masterpiece_ (that's primarily on principle-- I'm not used to throwing around that label) but I think down the line people will be able to look past most of what they may consider imperfections or failures and come to appreciate what I'm nonetheless certain is a very thoughtful and meticulous work.
      What I've been seeing since the last chapter dropped has been, in great amounts (not sure about "the majority") sportsball-tier groaning over their side losing, and then picking every nit possible to justify their thoughts beyond "I didn't like it" while ignoring (among other things) how the final conflict was framed and even forgetting how the narrative had been long-framed up to that point.

    • @RobertEdwinHouse9
      @RobertEdwinHouse9 2 роки тому +4

      I thought that too before I read the abomination that is chapters 132 and onwards

    • @FullyOnVolks
      @FullyOnVolks 2 роки тому

      @@RobertEdwinHouse9 aoe will happen

  • @franciscogonzaga4539
    @franciscogonzaga4539 2 роки тому +12

    I cried in that scene with Grisha, I love Zeke so much 😭 I'm so grateful that he's a very well written character that I can relate to in some aspects.

  • @jimmyichigo7410
    @jimmyichigo7410 2 роки тому +98

    As an anime-only, the walk through memory lane was the most mind-blowing thing in the world to me. I feel so bad for Zeke and Grisha, but Eren deserves sympathy too.

    • @Marv-th8qc
      @Marv-th8qc 2 роки тому +16

      Where does eren deserve sympathy? yes he went through shit but that doesnt what hes doing hes not even near deserving sympathy

    • @ollyjhb3872
      @ollyjhb3872 2 роки тому +20

      @@Marv-th8qc agreed I can understand saying people should empathize with where Eren’s coming from but being sympathetic to it is a stretch

    • @bobbyzamora6389
      @bobbyzamora6389 2 роки тому +3

      Yep. Being made to see that you commit such atrocities and being trapped to follow that path must feel awful.

    • @romulusnuma116
      @romulusnuma116 2 роки тому +5

      @@Marv-th8qc You can be sympatric to a person whiles disagreeing with that see why you think they're doing what they're doing whiles thinking they are wrong

    • @ollyjhb3872
      @ollyjhb3872 2 роки тому +7

      @@romulusnuma116 feel like that's more empathy than sympathy

  • @jessepbigjdp
    @jessepbigjdp 2 роки тому +18

    Zeke quickly became my favorite character in the series, and one of my favorite ever during the final season of AoT. His dedication to his goal, despite his loneliness and constant rejections from his blood relations, just makes him so compelling a character and antagonist. He's almost always calm even when doing heinous things, and some would wrongly call him heartless for this, but the truth is that he cares for others deeply. He just has rationalized his actions, even those that harm those he cares for, as necessary for his plans to come to fruition. He reminds me a lot of my favorite character in fiction : Stannis Baratheon. Both lonely men desperate for recognition/affection from their blood relations, who motives are strongly influenced by the scars their family have left on them, that have set their hearts on fire in pursuit of a purpose to their existence. Both are also viewed as a savior figure by some, and both' of them have their closest relation as an older man they can confide in. Then you mix in the existential aspect that reminds me of Seymour Guado from FFX, with wanting to end the cycle by ending further life, and you have one of the best antagonists in all of anime.

  • @emptank
    @emptank 2 роки тому +8

    Zeke: has a big emotional moment across time and space with his father.
    Eren: "yeah. And then he died. Horribly."

  • @chuuyaism1653
    @chuuyaism1653 2 роки тому +9

    Every single character in this anime from Eren to Magath makes me want to cry I swear to god.
    Anyways Zeke deserves a hug thank you very much.

  • @lkdon18lk74
    @lkdon18lk74 2 роки тому +16

    I believe that zeke’s greatest flaw was that he could never fathom people changing thus springing his euthanasia plan along with its failure. He couldn’t comprehend his farther changing his ways in how he would raise a child which of course was why he was surprised at how contrasting Eren is to him leading to a miscalculation and the failure of his plan. The euthanasia plan was birthed with the same ideology, the Elidans would always cause suffering to others and people would always have their prejudices towards them prolonging their suffering so why not end the cycle? Yet this was only truly a cycle in zeke’s eyes as in reality shown through the characters that were captured that grew to love eldians for example the cook. If Zeke had realised this sooner I wonder how things would of turned out

  • @marvelous_jack5228
    @marvelous_jack5228 2 роки тому +28

    Aot is one of those series that truly shows the different perspectives of tha characters, no matter if ya feel like they're irredeemable ya can still feel a whole lot of sympathy and maybe even empathy for them because of what they've been through

    • @handlerone5172
      @handlerone5172 2 роки тому +5

      The beauty of Isayama's writing. Even though he tends to reach way over people's heads with the ideas and concepts he is delivering, he usually does a good job letting the readers or viewers figure it all out on their own.

  • @larrythepagan
    @larrythepagan 2 роки тому +24

    Eren didn't catch the ball on purpose.
    Amazing writing!
    EDIT after watching: Thank you for taking time to notice this critical point of view.
    What Zeke truly went thru fades in all the hype of what Eren did.

  • @mandalorianhunter1
    @mandalorianhunter1 2 роки тому +30

    I understand the feeling of Zeke of being of the past and it's the opposite of Eren who looks to the future. I like the dynamic between the brothers and what led to the events of the story.
    I was just thinking about AoT and I was thinking about Reiner. Lol what a coincidence

    • @wanna-be-thinker2377
      @wanna-be-thinker2377 2 роки тому +2

      It is interesting when looking at some of the characters with such things (Zeke, Eren, Reiner, Jean, Mikasa, Arnin, etc.). I remember someone else video mentioning this: Some will look at the past and only that. Some, like Eren, will only see and look to the future. Some, like Armin, will look to, or at least acknowledge, the present.
      And some will look at the past, present and future, and think some of the others are idiots for only looking at one of them.

    • @mandalorianhunter1
      @mandalorianhunter1 2 роки тому +2

      @@wanna-be-thinker2377 I agree. I tended to look towards the future when I was young but now in the current present I keep looking at the past and wondered what could have made things better for me.

    • @handlerone5172
      @handlerone5172 2 роки тому +6

      @@mandalorianhunter1 To channel what Erwin said to Levi in the OVA, don't start thinking of the what ifs. All it does is cloud your future judgement and prevents you from taking risks when you should, which hurts your success in the future.
      It is not easy and you will have to struggle to maintain it but never regret the past or look at it to find mistakes you could have fixed. Instead, learn from your past and recognize how past mistakes might come back in the future and plan for them.

    • @hanz2904
      @hanz2904 2 роки тому

      Really? I think they both cling to the past, and it only makes sense, the formative experiences of a person are in their childhood

  • @madhatter8508
    @madhatter8508 Рік тому +4

    I think Eren manipulated Grisha like a puppet to tell Zeke what he wanted to hear, and he also deliberately did not show love to Zeke himself because he needs Zeke to defeat him to stop the Rumbling, so for the same reason that he made enemies out of the Survey Corps, he was trying to make an enemy out of Zeke too.

  • @zsoro9300
    @zsoro9300 2 роки тому +5

    Zeke's simply one of the best characters - while also being the most prolific war criminal in the entire series. (though that looks like it's about to change!) Brothers!!

  • @ajdinimsirovic2757
    @ajdinimsirovic2757 2 роки тому +6

    I belive that eren cared for zeke.
    I always wonder why the hug was even possible, think about it this was just a memory so how does grisha know that zeke is even there, then it hit me look where eren stands in the scene, if grisha can see eren's memories that he saw from eren's pov that zeke is in front of him

  • @joshuastinson6353
    @joshuastinson6353 2 роки тому +5

    He wanted a little brother he could share his misery with. He was kinda disappointed eren wasn't neglected like he was

  • @sedef7696
    @sedef7696 2 роки тому +6

    one of my favorite characters. i think he's really well written.
    i think he really cared about eren and saw him as a brother, but unfortunately their motives and plans were different so they had to seperate. this show gave me depression bye

  • @clarinaketia8948
    @clarinaketia8948 2 роки тому +4

    What I like about AOT, its all about perspective. Though Zeke has been introduced as the merciless man who murdered Paradise habitants without mercy through his titan form, yet he is the Beast Titan which is irony. Yet, he is one of the characters who really had a sad background. His background story shows us that we do not choose our family but we choose who we become. And also how parents can positively or negatively impact their child's path

  • @JoshuaHenelyThornhill
    @JoshuaHenelyThornhill 2 роки тому +5

    My opinion about Zeke made a completely 180 with that fabulous memories episode. It was overwhelming I literally felt like Zeke at some point but I had the added information that Eren never was scheming something. Zeke is one of those characters like Gabi that you learn to really appreciate once the hate is put aside. Many thanks for this video AJ !

  • @HishamA.N_Comicbroe
    @HishamA.N_Comicbroe 2 роки тому +15

    My 2nd favorite Aot character.. Zeke is just great! Amazing analysis.

  • @SpammytheHedgehog
    @SpammytheHedgehog 2 роки тому +6

    Zeke: If I can't have a normal childhood, than nobody can.

    • @mohamedelhediissa289
      @mohamedelhediissa289 2 роки тому +15

      Actually the opposite,
      It's more like "since I didn't have a normal childhood I will do my best to save as many people from said experience"

  • @OneManCast
    @OneManCast 2 роки тому +2

    Horrible events are made by broken people. The answer lies within making a world where no one is broken.

  • @celestien4647
    @celestien4647 2 роки тому +13

    Excellent analysis, great job, i loved every second of it. keep it up 👍

    • @Aleczandxr
      @Aleczandxr  2 роки тому +4

      Thanks, glad you enjoyed!

  • @MrKynzer
    @MrKynzer 2 роки тому +3

    You truly have a way with words, yes, I also feel zeke is a very well crafted, human, believable and vulnerable character

  • @kazikek2674
    @kazikek2674 2 роки тому +4

    Zeke wanted to save Eren, but in his last moments before becoming the harbinger of doom for humanity, Eren did what he could to save Zeke instead.

  • @chickletsushi2761
    @chickletsushi2761 6 днів тому

    Your analysis of his loneliness really touched me. I feel for him. Poor Zeke.

  • @dennys4121
    @dennys4121 2 роки тому +5

    I know I'm gonna have a good afternoon every time I receive a notification of a new video from the 🐐 Aleczandxr.
    Thanks for another masterpiece, I haven't even finished the video and I already know this is gold!

  • @casimirlawnicki8990
    @casimirlawnicki8990 2 роки тому +8

    A comment for your efforts. Thanks for putting these videos out. The way you're able to articulate how well these characters are written is really inspiring.

  • @L_Luciano
    @L_Luciano 2 роки тому +6

    WAKE UP BABE, NEW ATTACK ON TITAN AJ VIDEO

  • @SuperUniverse
    @SuperUniverse 2 роки тому +1

    Armin was able to help Zeke see that he is not alone.

  • @theeKPOPlover
    @theeKPOPlover 2 роки тому +2

    AHHHH! Zeke is my favorite AOT character!! I am so excited for this! I watch all your videos religiously even when they're about shows or characters that I do not know. I swear my IQ increases and view on life increases by every view.

  • @danshakulawrence983
    @danshakulawrence983 2 роки тому +9

    I love how Memories of the Future is literally the story of one person thinking they know the entire life of the person they're arguing with online, only to be horribly, horribly off the mark.

  • @singgihsuwangsa8650
    @singgihsuwangsa8650 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you for keep making anime friendly content for us anime only AJ! Always loved your analysis and i hate to miss out

  • @slayer6225
    @slayer6225 2 роки тому +2

    I was eagerly waiting for this. Brilliant.

  • @mphoyoursenpai4606
    @mphoyoursenpai4606 2 роки тому

    I never get bored of watching your videos. Keep up the great work man, keep moving forward. 🏃🏾‍♂️

  • @suto5704
    @suto5704 2 роки тому +1

    Really good videos as usual. Thanks for the content

  • @thepowerofsand6180
    @thepowerofsand6180 2 роки тому +5

    Zeke is debatabley the antagonist of the series but after I saw his backstory and how much he loves/ed Eren it's hard to see him as a villain. Maybe it's because most of the terrible things he does was in Season 2/3 but in Season 4 he's way more human/empathetic

    • @stevenpeeckford5999
      @stevenpeeckford5999 2 роки тому +3

      Floch is moreso the main antagonist of the series, at least thematically for the whole story.

  • @averagesaad4458
    @averagesaad4458 2 роки тому +4

    This has been long awaited... excited.

  • @RogerTaylorsClementine
    @RogerTaylorsClementine 2 роки тому

    You won’t believe how glad I was when I saw you made a video on AoT AGAIN! I can’t wait to recommend your channel to my friend when he reaches part 2 of the final season!

  • @Davaroni
    @Davaroni 2 роки тому +1

    Many thanks for creating this.

  • @marksman24444
    @marksman24444 2 роки тому +1

    Been a big fan since your videos on Full metal characters. Especially love your breakdown and thoughts on kimbley. Glad to see you're doing the same and with another series that I love. Keep it up man 👍

  • @invincibleluis
    @invincibleluis 2 роки тому +4

    Hell yes. My favorite character from AoT.

  • @hughjazz739
    @hughjazz739 2 роки тому

    These analyses never cease to amaze me.

  • @gjergj124
    @gjergj124 2 роки тому +1

    Great video man keep up the great work

  • @ayejay4270
    @ayejay4270 2 місяці тому

    Zeke is one of my favorite characters. Him and Reiner were the tragic heroes in my eyes. They both just wanted what was best for the people they loved. Eren was the son Grisha begged for when he lived in the internment zone - and Zeke was the son Grisha regretted casting away when he got exactly what he wanted with Eren… before he realized what that meant.

  • @TheMasterofMasters1
    @TheMasterofMasters1 2 роки тому +1

    I have a massive heart ache after hearing this.😢

  • @femalerevan
    @femalerevan 10 місяців тому +1

    I hated Zeke since we first met the Beast Titan. By the end, Zeke was my favorite character because of how well written and complex he turned out to be.

  • @enzomatos2307
    @enzomatos2307 2 роки тому +3

    and then people still feel weird when I say that Reiner and Zeke are my favourite characters, to me, they're the ones who suffered most

  • @nunothedude
    @nunothedude 2 роки тому +2

    At first i really hated Zeke but after the episodes showcasing hos backstory and this new one i loved him allot

  • @armscare9586
    @armscare9586 2 роки тому

    This video changed how I see Zeke now, I didn't know his emotion had more sad meaning to it and I finally realized why he teared up twice.

  • @WeirdTroll666
    @WeirdTroll666 2 роки тому +2

    Zeke is my favorite

  • @SidArtAttacksid
    @SidArtAttacksid 2 роки тому +4

    Thank you for the video.

  • @sebastiannilsson1208
    @sebastiannilsson1208 2 роки тому +1

    Another great vid!:)

  • @prinon8162
    @prinon8162 2 роки тому

    God finally a video on my fav character

  • @pranker199171
    @pranker199171 2 роки тому +1

    Oooooooooh yes, I was waiting for your opinion on this season.

  • @Pyrokan
    @Pyrokan 2 роки тому +3

    Eren seems to have picked up all those insecurities and yearnings of Zeke and played them to make his older brother act as he wished. Let's remember that basically all of S4 happened because Zeke was helping Eren.

    • @ghostofshadow7897
      @ghostofshadow7897 Рік тому

      I agree and a lot of people thinks eren mastermind behind everything yes eren was using zeke but zeke did everything as you said

  • @muhammadnour283
    @muhammadnour283 2 роки тому +1

    New favourite video of yours

  • @xenon4772
    @xenon4772 2 роки тому +3

    Shoutouts to Twitch chat for making this video possible!

  • @sifatshams1113
    @sifatshams1113 2 роки тому +2

    Idea for a future video: How Breaking Bad tricks you into rooting against Gretchen and Elliott, 2 decent people who genuinely just wanted to help an old friend who was dying of cancer.

    • @Aleczandxr
      @Aleczandxr  2 роки тому +1

      Oh I’m not in need of ideas for future videos but thank you!

  • @stevenpeeckford5999
    @stevenpeeckford5999 2 роки тому +2

    People like to argue about who is "right" or "wrong" in this story and I really couldn't care less about any of that. It misses the point.

  • @Killerkrma4
    @Killerkrma4 Рік тому +1

    Zeke deserved better

  • @ronaldpfidze7849
    @ronaldpfidze7849 2 роки тому +1

    I hope you'll continue exploring AOT even after it's done. I really enjoy your content on it and more HxH again 😂

  • @billykotsos4642
    @billykotsos4642 2 роки тому +5

    Unfortunately for Zeke, his brother is nothing like him

    • @chauncie8201
      @chauncie8201 2 роки тому +1

      Fortunately for the Eldians his brother is nothing like him.

    • @billykotsos4642
      @billykotsos4642 2 роки тому +1

      @@chauncie8201 The Paradisians*
      The Eldians living anywhere else are f*cked

    • @Luna.Tenebra
      @Luna.Tenebra Рік тому

      ​@@chauncie8201Well the Eldians got killed regardless

  • @ZancralthePariah
    @ZancralthePariah 2 роки тому +1

    This man doesn’t miss. I don’t think I’ve ever seen you with a bad take

  • @marcster6767
    @marcster6767 2 роки тому +12

    Great video, as usual. Your points also strenghten my point of view on a certain event that happens later on in the manga. SPOILERS BELOW:
    Zeke's last words include: "What a beautiful scenery, I wish I had realised that earlier". This at first glance can seem rather odd, after all Zeke is the character that has always imposed on himself one rule: "To find joy in every little thing". He adopted a carefree, playful attitude in contrast to the work ethic that was instilled into him by his father. But what he doesn't realise is that this facade he puts on is still quite superficial. As you mentioned, he has always isolated himself from other people and ironically, even if all he wanted in life was to enjoy himself and find connection to others, he deprived himself of those connection by focusing on a grand ultimate goal (the kind of mentality that he initially completely rejected), which ultimately lead to nothing.
    I say this because some people find it odd that Armin is the character who actually managed to convince him to act, when not even his father could, but now this scene makes more sense and Armin is probably the best person in the Scouts to explain to him his view on the meaning of life that he once lost.

  • @seemonuzumaki723
    @seemonuzumaki723 2 роки тому +2

    RUMBLING, RUMBLING

  • @newports6655
    @newports6655 2 роки тому +1

    ngl this made me cry Bc I look at kids with parents that raise them with love and don’t abuse them and I want that but I’m 18 so it’s too late

  • @juanangelguevara5411
    @juanangelguevara5411 2 роки тому +5

    I came as fast as I could

  • @Felix-kv1sz
    @Felix-kv1sz 2 роки тому

    My favourite character, so tragic

  • @windows6k603
    @windows6k603 2 роки тому +1

    I truly think zeke is one of the most tragic characters in aot.

  • @calcelmoanayru5870
    @calcelmoanayru5870 2 роки тому

    Thank you.

  • @seemonuzumaki723
    @seemonuzumaki723 2 роки тому +1

    To any anime-only's, I wonder which part of the episode was the most shocking.

  • @reinsama2.09
    @reinsama2.09 2 роки тому +5

    TFW the monke had the best long term plan.
    Cough ellen becomes dove crying cough

    • @sreenivas6071
      @sreenivas6071 2 роки тому +1

      Go back to reddit you fatherless incel, what an illiterate fandom this is

  • @co7769
    @co7769 2 роки тому +3

    You know what sucks even more (even though it doesn’t really matter)? Zeke most likely never experienced the pleasure of sex because he didn’t want to bring another human to suffer in this world. So he’s a virgin. Haha

  • @wanna-be-thinker2377
    @wanna-be-thinker2377 2 роки тому

    Great video!!!
    Off topic, but could you make a video concern Karl Fritz "vow," and what it does/affects his decendents and the people his family was ruling over? Also how members of his family (Uri, Freida, Zeke, Rod, Historia, etc.), when any of them weren't affected by it, hated it.
    Also, some videos about Armin, Reiner, Jean, Levi, etc.

    • @Aleczandxr
      @Aleczandxr  2 роки тому +2

      Unfortunately I don’t take video requests from comments. I just don’t have the time and means, I’m sorry! But I’m very glad you enjoyed this one. A Jean video is currently a donation/sub goal for Twitch, so if it gets funded then I will make it!

    • @wanna-be-thinker2377
      @wanna-be-thinker2377 2 роки тому

      @@Aleczandxr Understand, thanks. I'll be looking forward to your next videos.

  • @meleronnef8411
    @meleronnef8411 7 місяців тому

    Zeke has one of the most beautiful endings to the story.

  • @malayjoshi1098
    @malayjoshi1098 Рік тому +2

    Manga spoilers:
    In chapter 137 we deserved a Armin and Zeke scene though it was rushed but looking that aside the positivity and the negativity needed to meet dude it was such a great scene and a great moment Armin showing Zeke what truly life is it's not about death or nihilism i got emotional and finally when Zeke realised that he started to live and see the world for its beauty he got killed by Levi completing both of their arcs 🙏the ending was perfect including additional 8 pages just rushed i think they can fix it in anime 🙏

  • @numberfreee
    @numberfreee 2 роки тому

    Greatest show ever made

  • @androsh9039
    @androsh9039 2 роки тому

    Good video.

  • @10thtitanshifter22
    @10thtitanshifter22 2 роки тому

    Yeahhh playing Guilty Hero in the intro is a very wise decision everr

  • @ChibiMalzahar
    @ChibiMalzahar 2 роки тому

    Saw the thumbnail and thought this was about the principal from kaguya sama

  • @rob2540
    @rob2540 2 роки тому

    Before rumbling aot = got teart
    After rumbling = PAIN

  • @Argos-xb8ek
    @Argos-xb8ek 2 роки тому +5

    I sympathize with Zeke as a person but I would never be able to accept his ideals and couldn't live with knowing that I chose the rest of the world over my own people.

    • @theeKPOPlover
      @theeKPOPlover 2 роки тому

      So you agree with Eren's?

    • @wanna-be-thinker2377
      @wanna-be-thinker2377 2 роки тому +1

      @@theeKPOPlover Some would say neither choice is right. Hell, some would says none of the choices mentioned in the series are the right ones. They won't necessarily says what is the right one, but they'll say they all are wrong. (And for all we know they could be correct, but a few could offer some solutions the characters could have taken.)

    • @Argos-xb8ek
      @Argos-xb8ek 2 роки тому

      @@theeKPOPlover if I had to choose between the two ideologies I would fall within Erens. It's tribalistic and in the grand scheme of things one group of people being wiped out is worth the well being of the rest of the world. However I couldn't just say that the rest of the world deserves to live at the expense of my whole nation and people dying out.

  • @michaelyu6250
    @michaelyu6250 2 роки тому +7

    Don't mind me, I'm just here to drink the tears of IRL Yeagerists because there won't be an anime-original ending to the adaptation :D

    • @tx6723
      @tx6723 2 роки тому +1

      How u know

    • @mohamedelhediissa289
      @mohamedelhediissa289 2 роки тому

      Irl Yeagerists just want the best for the show

    • @seemonuzumaki723
      @seemonuzumaki723 2 роки тому +5

      @@mohamedelhediissa289 Then why do they beg for the worst for the show? AOE would be horrendous

    • @mohamedelhediissa289
      @mohamedelhediissa289 2 роки тому +1

      @@seemonuzumaki723 well it's better than having eren being the one that manipulated the entire story (since the time of ymir) to go exactly the way it did just so that he can see the scenery of killing specifically 80% of humanity then crying about it because he can't be happily engaged to his sister even though he could've simply not done that but oh well guess the characters don't have free will so they shouldn't be held accountable for their actions
      I mean, when he killed his own mom he was just in a silly goofy mood
      Like how don't you see the blatant bad writing that went to it and the betrayal of all the themes it once had

    • @sreenivas6071
      @sreenivas6071 2 роки тому

      @@mohamedelhediissa289 you illiterates reduce down everything down to the most out of context bull to justify your trash headcanon. You think eren succeeding in genocide is good writing when eren was
      1. Caught up in a paradox that led to the death of his mother
      2. Was depressed beyond hell, and pushed by armin to confess to Mikasa, which made him let out a realistic reaction, which was just out of place but not out of character
      Thematically it's the perfect ending and the extra pages reinforce that. Its rushed in execution but can be saved by a good adaptation. Stop RUINING other people's enjoyment of the show with your takes.