Audient ORIA | The FIRST Dedicated Dolby Atmos Interface!
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- Опубліковано 7 чер 2024
- Audient have just announced ORIA, the world's first dedicated interface for Dolby Atmos - and it ticks ALL the boxes! 16 analogue and digital outputs, expandability via ADAT and Dante, USB-C direct to your computer, dual headphone outputs, built in speaker and room calibration, bass management, down-mixes, direct connectivity with the Dolby Atmos Render, a volume control that works with analogue AND digital outputs, and the ability to monitor commercial mixes in 7.1.4 via Apple Music. This is the box we've been crying out for since we started our journey into Atmos two years ago, and we're so pleased it's Audient that got there first, and we have been privileged to be working with them on beta testing.
Please note that this is our HONEST opinion of ORIA and that we haven not been financially compensated by Audient for either this video, or beta testing the product for them.
For more details visit:
audient.com/products/monitor-...
ORIA will retail at UK £2520 inc VAT; Euro €2885 and US $2625 MAP. The optional Dante Card is priced at UK £600; Euro €685 and US $625 MAP
And for more on our MUM range of monitors head over to our website:
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0:00 - Intro and our thoughts on Dolby Atmos for music
1:55 - Why we think it will stick
4:38 - Cost of entry
6:56 - What we actually need
9:27 - ORIA hardware
15:23 - Can you play back commercial mixes?
16:02 - ORIA app
18:14 - Sonarworks SoundID integration
18:42 - Our honest opinion
23:26 - Outtakes
The ending sped-up segment is brilliant.
I'm not going ATMOS, other than playing with binaural mixes, for fun, but that said, I think this is an affordable, while still not cheap piece of gear and if you don't need to hook up external recording gear or record many sources at once, may even replace your interface, nice.
I'm not a big fan of immersive audio for music playback and even though I could afford the unit, after saving up a bit, selling my interface maybe, I would not. Needless to say, that I don't have a suitable speaker setup, or the budget at hand to buy a dozen good monitors.
Long story short, interesting, I'll happily watch more videos about it, nevertheless and feel happy for those who waited for such a device.
Thanks. The next step is metering. I look forward to their implementation. For now I will probably place my order as I was at the same stage you were at in trying to design the configuration.
i LOVE This product.... but it may also be interesting for people who are already in the RME ecosystem to know that "most" of these things can be achieved with TotalMix out of the box - listen to commercial mixes - yes. Time align and EQ speakers - yes (although no direct import of sonarworks settings). Control all speakers with one knob - yes. The ORIA is a more elegant solution indeed., But if you already own an RME interface with enough IO, you get all this for FREE :) thanks guys - love the channel!
I’ve been considering this exact setup… but there currently is no all-in-one RME interface (like the UFX line) available with enough I/O for 7.1.4, without expanding the unit… and then it becomes significantly more costly than the Oria. If RME had a UFX with 12 analog outs and matching digital I/O, then we’d have a ballgame.
yes thats a good point... I use an RME Madiface USB with a Ferrofish A32 to get the extra analogue outs.... and I didn't mention that above sorry - and yes that is quite a bit more than the Oria. BUT, you do get all the other analogue IO with that setup which you may or may not need ;)@@nathanaeldavenport2251
@@nathanaeldavenport2251 how do you analog sum into 7.1.4? I don't want to give up analog so I'm wondering about this
This is perfect!!!
It's what I said I wanted to see before I thought about going Atmos.
When a interface just does it and it be a simple option.
Dante then makes it very easy to ensure a low latency option also.
Guys! This is awesome I receive the good new few days ago and first think coming to my mind was yessssssss! Finally! And I think on you guys too because you have long time ago waiting for something like this, thanks for share this video with us just brilliant! This is a game changing device! a real one! Thanks for share the good new! ....
FINALLLLLYYYY! Perfect gear!
great review guys. I've been waiting for the device like Oria for a while now. Going to the shop now..
Haha! You’ll have to wait a little while, but it’s worth the wait!
For 2800€ / 2500£ is a very good interface, and ticks everything indeed.
At least two times I wrote to UAD to implement room correction (in this very exact way) into Apollo X series… they had everything ready to complete it using their dsp power… nothing happened in the past two years. They shall speed up now.
Audient have really got it right with this! Thanks for watching ❤️
Great video once again, and Mark just made my day when he made the ADAT (squeek) remark. It is in fact verry verry nice of Audient to listen to what the actually using group of consumers (producers, mixing engineers) had to say and made a pro grade audio interface that removes all the previously hassle. So finally Mark can work on his Atmos studio, congratulations man 🙂. James i get the impression your video skills are still improving. Verry nice transitions and animations. Congrats to you too. I probably will never get the money to build a proper atmos system but i like new technology and will stick arround just to learn how it is done, how it works, setting up, callibrating, all that stuff is very interesting :-). See you in the next one.
That’s a very lovely comment to leave, thank you so much! And you’ll probably be able to do it with neural implants for a fiver in a few years time 🤣 I wonder if they’ll have an ADAT input though?! Thanks again, comments like this make all the hard work worth it! M xx
@@PresentDayProduction Thanks for the reply Mark, about those neural implants, probably not ADAT but maybe with BT 6.0. Who knows?
outstanding again chaps.
Oooh! I think I'll buy one. It resolves every implementation problem I have on my list! Neat. And perhaps there may soon be some competitors?
Awesome! Great video. I might be able to afford an Atmos set up after all. Thanks Audient!
They certainly have removed the need for a cacophony of boxes! There is no way this is leaving our rack 😉
I just needed to skip to the end to get the whole review in a nutshell ..a beautiful, profanity laden nutshell..well done as always boys😆
Audient ORIA mind blowing equipment
Great video, Gents, thanks! I'm sold (if I ever go Atmos). Are you daisy-chaining your two subs in momo out of the LFE output? Or is there a way with this to run stereo subs in a 7.2.4 set up?
Thanks, Ed! :)
At the moment we have a pair of subs running under the left and right as L+R bass extension (not LFE), and then two MORE 1x12” subs out of shot, low down in the centre, daisy chained running identical signals. So that’s the 1x LFE channel, just doubled up.
Oh my f*cking gosh.............. Guys, think further than on this device it self: With Audient bringing a (relatively) affordable Dolby Atmos interface, it's only a matter of time for all the other brands to put similar products on the market, unless they wanna lose track and competitiveness. Competence should always be good for the end consumer.... meaning that little by little, the access to the Dolby Atmos market (as a profesional studio) will get cheaper, without compromising quality and features. Great news for us, audio gear consumers, and as always, great video. Thanks a lot for all the good work you guys do at PDP ❤
Cat for size reference was a nice detail! lol
When I saw the email introducing the Oria my immeadiate thought was: "Ooooh, the PDP guys gonna make a video right away, aren't they? Probably recorded it weeks ago xD"
Wow, glad to be considered straight off the bat! ;)
We’ve had the unit for quite a while under NDA, and thinking of the best way to present this video. But in terms of filming and editing… that was done on Wednesday and Thursday 😂
@@PresentDayProduction Sounds about right xD
@@PresentDayProduction But in all honesty: this was the first time I went straight to a video when seeing a product announced. As opposed to just reading about it on the manufacturers site. And I didn't feel the need to go there afterwards, so I'd say taking your time to present the Oria well paid off!
Thank you so much! Much appreciated ;)
Thanks!
Thank YOU!
Very interesting. Still not convinced for audio alone, but this is a step in the right direction.
What direction is that?
Yay!!!! nice thanks
Thanks for responding so quickly. Do you have any idea when they will have the Dante capability?
I think the hardware is ready to go, so we’ll keep you updated in future content!
You just cracked me up with that "$!"#ing volume knob"! For someone not specialising in audio, finding solutions to simple things like that has been such a pain.
Amazing device, my only wishlist's for it to be perfect for me would be to add MADI and at least 1 (if not more) HDMI 2.1 ports. That would make it literally perfect. I guess the HDMI ports may not make sense though if it's not able to decode ATMOS in the box?
We would have loved HDMI support too, as then you can plug in a relatively cheap Apple TV and enjoy movies in Atmos in your studio. But we understand why they didn’t add it (the cost of licensing being one factor)
@@PresentDayProduction I'd not care for the extra cost on licensing, because THIS would make it perfect for me in my home cinema (5.1.4) to watch movies AND mix my own stuff there directly... AND: I hope Oria will directly support Davinci Resolve, without needing Dolby Atmos Renderer in a dedicated windows box for extra cost.... to be honest: all of that is still quite complicated :(
Well, we use Resolve here, so we’ll do an experiment and let everyone know!
@@PresentDayProduction sounds perfect! so you say, there will be a direct output from Resolve to ORIA without intermediate tools/hardware/cost? AMAZING! Make a video!
Assuming it works as well as all the other software we have tried, then, yes. We will experiment and find out :)
Hmmm, I’m not sure that just because Dolby has invested heavily in a specific format translates to them being entitled to recoup their investment.
Music is still largely consumed on portable devices and that’s not gonna change.
Immersive home systems are truly few and far between.
The standout elephant in the room is that this novelty format highlights how the industry of selling stuff has responded to the ease and convenience of producing music assets and it has found an audience in people prioritising format over creation.
This Audient is likely the first in an oncoming wave of products that will simplify/reduce cost access to the novelty format, and I personally like the concept from this device kicking off this trend. No one needs it but somehow I doubt that is going to factor much! lol
Progress in technology always has a phase of absurdity along the way, by the end of 2025 I’m guessing we will have many Oria class options vying for all the dosh no one actually needs to be spending but will trip over our own feet to spend. Great watch, thanks for the video
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Verry much awesome! So after getting the Sweet Water Creation Station computer this here interface I'll have to grab then. Yes mark if people are doing silly things like a guitar spinning arround your head I'm not down with that. But I am for making music in Atmos. People just have to rethink music. Now you can give the consumer all the multitracks. You just now have to think of your music as a real ambiance. As a live porformence around your listener. So where do you want each vocal where do you want each instrament? Now how much verb or not to use? Where do you want your listener to feel like they are listening to this song? Or album if the whole album.
🎉, I would like to know if is possible when the video with calibration comes you can test 2.1 as well please
Of course, as you need to check how an Atmos mix is performing in stereo! Thanks for your comment ❤️
Looking at the display on its screen... along with the modern 9-1-6-style user profiles... will it let you use the classic 4-4-2 formation, so as to strike the right balance for the footie team to play a decent counter-attacking strategy..? Can we assume accessories include an 8-inch glowing white circle, to glue to the floor at the exact listening position... which, like a reverse burglar-alarm pressure-pad, can let out a piercing squeal should the listener dare to step ‘off’ it and out of the Atmos listening zone..?
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LOL
I wonder your thoughts on the cheapest way to do decent enough spatial for the non-professional at home DIY music enthusiant. Thanks!
Do it on headphones using a DAW with the Dolby renderer built in (which is most of them now) but make sure you send it to a mastering studio working in Atmos if you’re going to release commercially
I wish the 2 preamp channel had insert send and return on each channel like we had on the ID24 for hardware during recording
You could use a pair of stereo outs and then go back in via ADAT if you really had to. Or just get a standalone mic pre on your front end
Will the drivers support Windows WDM 5.1 and 7.1 surround like Focusrite does?
Something doesn't say anything about the Dynamic Range Control function. Is there one? ...And loudness control also.
great video guys, Do you know if it can playback AC-4 content as easily as it does ATMOS?
I'm not 100% sure but @Audient may be able to answer
Hey @JoeRivas-rh1cj thank you for the question. ORIA itself will not handle the AC-4 codec natively. You'd need to have something that can decode AC-4 to standard audio and then send that to the ORIA. Hope that helps. Do let us know if you have any further questions.
@@AudientworldThanks for the answer on this. This unit is gonna be a game changer guys. 👍
woooooow!!!
Very interesting! It's cheaper than many bloated home theater processor! And more features.
Does it support crossover function for stereo as well? I've been looking for a solution for quite a while not to rely on subfoower built in crossover, but not wanting to spend a truck ton of money on Grace Design
Yes, we’ll be releasing a video covering that soon.
I don’t have an Atmos set up yet, but I’m slowly working towards one. I’m wondering if I should grab Oria now, and use it as a typical interface (it seems pretty high quality for just that), or if I should just wait until I can do the full set up. What do you gents think?
It’s not available quite yet, but it depends what you’re doing really. If you’re tracking and need more than two inputs then you’ll need some sort of ADAT expander. But if the end goal is Atmos and you need an interface and have the budget, then I don’t think anything is going to come along that will beat this at the price any time soon
I'd go for ORIA in my home cinema/home studio if:
* direct support from Davinci Resolve into ORIA (no Dolby Atmos Renderer + second WinPC complexity inbetween)
* HDMI-IN to also watch BluRay in Atmos via ORIA
as I understand it for now, it's all not more that a better soundcard with some GUI for immersive audio (well done, though...), and still bound to Apple only...
I’m not mixing in surround let alone in atmos, I used to have a great thx amplifier years ago, at first it was nice then after a while I wouldn’t care less about it. To me atmos seems like virtual reality, at first everyone liked it but it ended up not being used. I think if you really like it you wouldn’t care investing in it but I think it will be an expensive investment. Maybe it’s gonna be a great thing but I doubt it. People need heating and food on the table, maybe would be nice to have an atmos system at the salvation army so people can enjoy it while they’re in line for their food stamps.
Hello, Does Oria works with Nuendo 12 Dolby Atmos renderer (On Windows 10) ?
Hey guys, I was wondering if you could upload a sound demo, so we can get a rough idea how your monitors sound ?
It would be pointless, as your own monitoring system would colour the sound, as would the microphone chosen to record the demo, as would the room
Let us know where in the world you are, and there MAY be someone nearby who can demo you the monitors :)
The digital outs mean this will be perfect for a Atmos system say with your speakers.
So it can be that high-end standard of conversation.
The analogue outs for the speakers means you can but this for a cheaper monitor setup and have the option to upgrade the speakers later on, or add another form of Atmos system for better translation.
My thoughts about the perils of translation with Atmos is how things will translate to these soundbar Atmos systems.
As me always aim when mixing to translate to the most common HiFi setups, we do not mix with a ridiculous audiophile system in mind.
The types soundbar systems where the bar has a insane amount of directional speakers with maybe 2 other rear speakers and a sub.
I feel like this is where your cool ideas for movement could fall apart and it likely to be the most common consumer setup for home Atmos.
I do wonder if this sort of focus in Atmos mixing is going to be what defines the Atmos hits.
As mixing wise, the hits are those songs that sound good on everything.
Currently, we all go "wow, look at all this room we have" but when this becomes a big consumer thing, it's going to be mostly these sort of simple Atmos soundbar setups most common in houses.
I have been thinking of how to make a B Atmos monitor setup for this purpose.
The hardest part is the fact that the soundbar Atmos setups rely on no acoustics and room reflections to work properly.
So how would you simulate this without having to have a separate room you have to go to check this?...
Is this thought I am having actually a important thing to worry about?
I have no idea
At the moment, if you mix on a properly calibrated speaker system of at least a 7.1.4 spec then translation is pretty damn good. And already you can start to hear Atmos mixes on Apple Music that clearly have been mixed on headphones, or even stereo speakers! And the difference is night and day. And that’s the danger. Yes, you can mix on headphones, or a soundbar, but it likely won’t translate. Mix well on a good speaker system and it will. It translates to soundbars, headphones, even single multi speaker devices like the Amazon Echo. But mix Atmos on headphones and send me the ADM to master and we’re likely going to have to start again from scratch. But the consumer devices are improving pretty much week on week. But II, personally, do mix and master with people listening on high end audiophile systems very much in mind. If someone listens on a phone speaker then that’s their problem. I care about their listening experience no more than they do! Thanks for your comment, it’s an exciting time for music!
I’ll be watching this interface for a few years. Then if the quality is proven and driver support on a similar level to RME I might consider a switch.
How would you guys compare the Oria to the Trinnov Nova, Calibration wise?
The Trinnov wins on calibration and is the most powerful calibration device on the market, without doubt. BUT it’s much more expensive and doesn’t have the multichannel Dolby Atmos functionality so you need to weigh up your options
Does it work as well in Windows as it does in MacOS? Like for listening to music and watching movies in Dolby Atmos?
Also the price would be a lot easier to swallow if it was 32bit also, for recording. Which would make it future proof as well. But since it's 24bit only and €3K I'm very hesitant.
Windows support isn’t quite ready yet, but we will be testing it on a windows machine when it is. It’s unlikely you will be able to watch movies in Dolby Atmos using ORIA, and you can’t currently do that on Mac OS either (or use Tidal or Amazon music, as they require a hardware device with the Dolby decoder chip in it, such as an Apple TV). This would have been possible had ORIA featured an HDMI input, but that would add a lot to the cost of the unit, is a nightmare to implement as a format, and isn’t really the intended market for ORIA. You can get a consumer decoder with HDMI and XLR line outs for around £1500 (check out the Iota AVX range) that would be better suited for movies. As for 32bit? Again, recording isn’t the primary purpose of ORIA, but is a very useful feature to have.
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I hope that they can handle reusable volume of production because I want one and I know lm not alone.
I expanded my interface via adat for 16 ins and outs for £150. You can do it cheap if you want to. Tho I will be definitely looking into this interface, it sounds perfect!
But I have to have a separate interface for headphone outs, and no fking volume knob 😡 tho I do have a software volume fader on the interface software 🤷🏾♂️
There are two headphone outs on ORIA. And a very nice volume knob
Thought this was a Bad Gear episode at first 😂😂😂
It’s bad hair!
At first glance, ORIA iz ticking all the boxes
Will my stereo hardware be useful in Atmos mixes, or is each channel one mono channel? Can a stereo signal work at all in an Atmos mix?
Each channel coming out of ORIA is a mono channel, but I’ve been using it for stereo mastering as well as working in Atmos. And there are two separate sets of stereo outputs in addition to the Atmos outputs, so if you have a nice pair of stereo monitors and, say, a pair of NS10 as well, you can still keep those hooked up and switch between them. ORIA also acts as an excellent monitor controller. Or did you mean stereo hardware as in outboard? I don’t know many that are using outboard for Atmos mixes. They’re using that for the stereo mix and then printing stems to export for Atmos. Hope that helps!
@@PresentDayProductionyes, I meant outboard. I’ve been collecting gear for a long time and I hope to be able to utilize most of it if I ever go into immersive audio
M3 Mac mini is coming ! Maybe a Pro version too ! Use 16gb ram for complicated projects at high Hrz rates
Thanks for the video! Their announcement email really got me excited! I have two questions as a follow up: 1. Do you still use the MC Pro for phase alignment or would that also be possible with the Orias Delay Function in the OS. 2. Is it possible to add more than 1 Sub? Thanks in advance! =)
Thanks for your comment! Yes, we still use the MC in our day to day work - as great as ORIA is, it can’t replace technology costing ten times as much! The Trinnov corrects phase over very many bands (around 72 I believe) on each speaker, whereas the time delay on ORIA is primarily for delaying speakers that are closer to you than others in the system, so you get a cohesive set of waveforms arriving at the listening position. But you can get pretty close using the manual settings in ORIA, and the cost of Trinnov really needs to complement a speaker system that costs many times more. But we have been looking for the perfect solution to plumb in between Mac and Trinnov. And this is it. It’s fantastic.
You can daisy chain more than one sub to the LFE channel, but there is only one LFE channel. We have two subs for left and right that are daisy chained to the L/R channels, and two in series as dedicated LFE.
@@PresentDayProduction Thanks for that detailed reply! Is would have been tooo much. Really impressive little thing! =)
So do we now need xyz mic trios instead of stereo pairs? Do we mix in 3D? Or is this all a big AI simulation. I don’t really get it.
If you heard an orchestral recording made with a multi mic array placed just above the conductors head, on a fully calibrated professional speaker system, then you’d absolutely get it in an instant. And then you’d also understand how well that is starting to translate to consumer devices, particularly headphones! It shows all the compromises of stereo, and what an unnatural playback format that really is. Thanks for commenting!
@@PresentDayProduction Thanks. In fairness I don’t even have a 4k television yet …
Nice review. My take away is that this unit is the only magic box you need. There is nothing missing or things you would like to see added to this box. There are no cons from you experience. Is that right?
Absolutely. It’s filled ALL the gaps we had using a fudge of equipment costing over five times more. And it’s rock solid and dead easy to use. You can’t enjoy movies on it, that’s not its intended purpose, but it literally does exactly what it says on the tin. And very, very well. Audient got this right.
@@PresentDayProductionFantastic well made video and info! Not sure if you mentioned it but the Sonarworks calibration will stop working on both sides (Audient / Sound ID) after the 60 days - according to their promo video. Adding the €500 (or €249 if you can upgrade from the stereo version) is probably essential for the setup to work as intended? Price tag close to €3500 for that package?
Not sure I would have used SonarWorks when Audyssey is right there and has been doing the work in home cinema for decades
I've always compared ATMOS to the Universal Studios-era 3D movies. At first, everyone goes nuts with the idea and gets way overboard with trying to point out how amazing the format is, (everything has to shoot OUT of the screen), until someone comes along and does it subtly (see: Avatar). Which is the same thing that happened with early stereo, too, come to think of it...but eventually everyone settles down and it gets WAY more "natural". We're getting there now with ATMOS and most likeky once we've all gotten used to it, it'll be a requirement.
Indeed! And I’m really enjoying the subtleties of it rather than the gimmickry. Sitting in the room with your eyes closed listening to a great recording and being able to hear the difference in height between hi-hat and snare is quite an incredible experience!
@@PresentDayProduction So great, I hope to have more access to this in the near future :) Units like this will certainly help!
Watching any 3D movies hurt my eyes after 15 minutes and the effect isn't as good and image clarity is lost. Plus the cost of atmos is too out of reach for most people. And for headphones I find that a good stereo or binaural mix beats atmos every time.
At first I thought I was seeing what was to be an interface that can mix Atmos with iZotope like algorithms not requiring the stupid multi-million speakers that MOST home studios cannot do, and MOST people do not have. It looks like I'm wrong. THAT will be the real revolution, when you can mix Atmos in a box, affordably and convincingly, with headphones and nothing else. I think we all know 80% + of the home studios are not sticking speakers in their ceilings and on their side walls (if they have them) just to satisfy Dolby. Joe
Well, it's not 99% or there would not be a home theater market. However, I think realistically the amount of people that have (5.1 plus Atmos speakers) is probably 2-5%. The rest are 5.1, then just 2 or 2 and a soundbar. Now ask me to replicate my home theater in my music studio? Your sniffing glue. @@Dystopian84
That's VERY true, 99% @@Dystopian84
I have music submissions on hold and been in contact with several producers for last 3 years and with many projects and never once have been asked or told to submit a atmos version of a song I wrote produced and submitted for tv, commercials and movies. Literally what is going on with atmos. I don’t think it’s the worse thing but honestly. I think Apple is somehow trying to push people to mix this way. Is there even any movie theaters that are full blown atmos or are they still all surround 5.1.
If you guys made an ATMOS mix of a ball of wool bouncing around your studio would Floppy leap around looking for it?
He most likely would! Although, being a cat, he’d lose interest halfway through and start cleaning himself 🤣😻
Best question so far 😺
If the monitors are connected to the analog outputs, can the AES outputs be used as outputs to use hardware (like a compressor or EQ) in the DAW via the I/O plugin (the inputs expanded via adat)?
Currently you aren’t able to use the analog and digital outputs at the same time. Whether that will change in the future or not, I’m not too sure.
So the only way to use hardware is to use ORIA as a monitor controller, connect it via ADAT to an audio interface with sufficient I/O and use that? or is it possible to use the analog OUTs that remain empty (for example in 7.1.4) to do routing with something other than a monitor (taking inputs via ADAT)? Thanks so much for the reply, your video is fantastic.@@PresentDayProduction
or use the dedicated stereo speaker outputs@@PresentDayProduction 🙂
I think using the ADAT I/O is the best option here, but maybe @Audient could answer this?@@alessandropapaianni6298
thanks so much@@PresentDayProduction
Is there technically only one real listening position in every atmos setup?
If it’s a speaker setup then yes
Needs 3 Adat Inputs (not 2), MADI, and an AVB Option…(vs. Dante)
this is a clear case of if you have nothing good to say better be quiet , I´ll shut up now :)
Ok, thanks for keeping quiet! 🤣
is it possible to hook 7.2.4 to have 2 subs? is it combined in one lfe channel?
There is only one dedicated LFE channel, but we have two subs plumbed in to our L/R channels, and another two daisy chained and dedicated to LFE
Audient has set a standard that everyone will be racimg to beat
But they haven’t rushed it. They’ve been working hard on this for at least 18 months, and it shows!
@@PresentDayProduction very soon other manufacturers will jump on it and try to flood the market with similar products loaded with marketing gimmicks using UA-camrs to lie to end users because that's what I see alot from UA-camrs doing product reviews this days. I run when i hear phrases like its a game changer
Man! How do you change your body and face so quickly? :)
Practice! 🤣
@@PresentDayProduction You should teach us! :)
Imagine this thing had a HDMI port it would be a device to consider even not for audio engineers. You simply cannot get consumer signals into it. I always dream for a atmos decoder standalone. The only unit i know is: Arvus H2-4D
Have a look at the iota AVX17
I have a Tonewinner AT300 in my system. Multiple HDMI to balanced (or unbalanced) line outputs. Really good, but it's a workaround - I then have to change a routing present to allow my interface to have the analogue inputs as a source for 7.1.4. Can't help thinking that a giant opportunity is being missed here...
(Sorry - preset, not present. ffs)
I'm concerned about the system latency. The fact Audient doesn't provide any information about this (only "TBC" in the tech spec section on their website) looks fishy to me.
For is intended purpose, it doesn’t matter. There’s a ton of latency with the Dolby Atmos Renderer anyway. And anyone trying to overdub a shaker part mid way through an Atmos mix is going to have issues! But when used as a ‘standard’ audio interface using the built in mic pres, latency is negligible and no worse than any other interface on the market. Just don’t load the renderer while you’re doing it!
I work with logic in tracking mode all the time no overpriced dolby rendere needed and latency even with the binaural logic renderer is perfectly good. So to me latency matters when I invest in another layer of dsp processing into the chain. @@PresentDayProduction
I don't think I like the control knob, the idea of a menu to get to where you go I find displeasing. Nevertheless the ORIA sounds promising.
The control knob is actually great. And anything you need to access via it you don’t need to access very often. Need to turn down your headphones? Press the headphone button, turn it down.
Yes! F* AVID! 👍
But some people hate adat
Keep 5.1
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5.1 is still around. But it's not what everyone said it was going to be. Neither is Atmos.
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Seriously a review that begins 9:30 into the video. Sort of like spatial audio, completely superfluous
As is this comment 🤷🏻♂️
I’m not the fella who bores his viewers. I love creators who snarkily respond to earnest feedback
00:38 Why should they? No one is 'entitled' to make a profit on something they have invested in. If the product isn't any good (I'm not saying it isn't - I haven't heard it), but the idea that a company is 'entitled' to make a profit is nonsense. Many formats have failed, some of them were very good I'll take it as red that Atmos is good, for the sake of argument, but having heard high resolution surround on music I'm not sure what Atmos can add? A bit of ambience? Meh. On movies and games I *completely* get it - that is where surround really comes into its own. I used to sell high end surround so I do know that it really adds to the experience in those mediums and I am sure processing has come a long way. For music I remain to be convinced it's anything other than gimmicky overkill esp. if the front channels are anything other than pure unadulterated 96/24. I'm not passing judgment until I've heard it at it's best, but please, don't say Dolby are entitled. It just makes you sound like someone who's been drinking the Kool-Aid.
Great review BUT .....why have trashy muzak in the background ......why DO you think it needs to be there?... No one who works with music needs to hear spare noise..its totally irritating
Thanks for your feedback, but that is the way I like to edit my videos
No sane consumer is going to set up an Atmos listening system at home...so it better work on headphones with little or no hassle.
Sitting listening to music in Atmos on my AirPods right this moment. Works pretty damn well!
@@PresentDayProductionCan this be done outside the Apple Universe?
I think Windows now supports Atmos on some platforms with the correct headphones. My gaming headphones support Atmos on Windows
...and many at no extra cost... well the price at tidal is double if you want Atmos. Apple doesn't give a sh.... about your binaural settings which you as a mix engineer carefully chose....and thats pretty much it. No Music on Netflix, who is using amazon for music? I don't know anyone using it (which doesn't mean it's not being used, I just don't know anybody). Spotify make enough money with their actual version as so they don't give a sh.... to bring better resolution or even Atmos to their clients. Way to go...
Why would I want anything else in this life? I am not stupid
Skip to 7 minutes in….
Or use the timestamps?
_Dolby have poured a lot of money into it and are entitled to recoup._
Come again?
I’ve poured a ton of investment into the physical and DSP side of our own studio monitors. Should I just ship them out to people for free when they ask?
Here to stay ! 😆 , the fact that almost nobody ( especially the general public ) care about atmos has to be a conspiracy lol I have heard this kind of idiot say : " but muuuuhhhh it is the future bro " for like 8 years now , they are highly likely to keep saying that for a few more years at least . With a proper system ( that almost nobody has at home ) yes it is great , at the movie theater it is awesome but it translates poorly for the consumer when it comes to music , sound bars and headphones are laughably bad and produce a result inferior to stereo
Basically, any which way you cut it it's the cost. The speakers setup alone is prohibitive, and unless you have a suitable room, the speakers are going to be difficult to fit in and set-up. Then there's everything else.
This is basically out of the reach of most of us out here. Nice to know it's there, but...
But there’s nothing to stop you experimenting on headphones with the renderer that’s likely built into your DAW, and then taking it to a professional studio and hearing it on a pro system in a ‘mastering’ context. That investment alone will help show you what you need to do differently if mixing on headphones alone.
And those soundbars are bought by people who don’t give a damn about how their audio sounds. But some consumer devices ARE genuinely good. And that includes Apple AirPod Pro. The translation to those on a GOOD Atmos mix from an engineer who knows what they’re doing on a properly calibrated system can be stunning.
@@PresentDayProduction Most people I know who have atmos compatible devices either don't know what atmos is or have turned it off . When you have to gaslight people ( calling them too poor ,frustrated , conspiracy theorists .... ) to promote something it shows desperation and reminds me those who were trying too hard to promote NFTs , remember that ? 😆Also when it comes to high end audio , those with the most disposable income ( audiophiles ) actively hate atmos . Good luck with all that , I ll be watching and laughing ... If in 10 years or so , you finally get a little bit of support and enthusiasm from the general public, I ll admit I was wrong
What a mess 😂
Just because Dolby has invested a lot of money does NOT mean they are entitled to recoup that investment? Since when does investing in something mean your entitled to earn it back? - if I go buy 2,000,000 speakers but suck at engineering, does that mean I should still be entitled to charging a lot? - Dolby Atmos is a scam.
So please explain how, exactly, it's a scam?
@@PresentDayProduction I am a full time producer and studio owner for over a decade. Located in LA. 100+ songs a year. Never once have I been asked about Atmos from a client. I never even had a client talk about it.
First hand proof its a scam right there.
If we are entitled to recouping our BAD investments (as you proclaim) then how are people going to recoup on an Atmos setup when no one is asking for it?