Which is better for you: "Real" meat or "fake" meat? - Carolyn Beans
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- Опубліковано 21 сер 2023
- Explore the differences between farmed meat, plant-based meat, and lab-grown meat, and find out which is best for you and the planet.
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In 2021, a survey of over 1,000 Americans found that nearly two-thirds had eaten plant-based meat alternatives in the past year. Many cited potential health and environmental benefits as their motivation. But are these alternative meats actually better for us and the planet? Carolyn Beans investigates the differences between farmed meat, plant-based meat, and lab-grown meat.
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Mushroom's meat might be the alternate to replace all of them. It's easy to grow and has similar tension feel like farm meat.
I eat mushrooms basically every day as a great way to replace the savory umami from eating animals! Mushrooms aren't as high in protein density, so I also have tofu, beans, nuts, seeds, whole grains, and other sources like the occasional plant based meat alternative. Whole foods are ideal for health, but mock meats are healthier than meat.
I grew a few batches of lion's mane mushrooms and loved the taste when I prepared lion's mane meat free steak as described by Wicked Kitchen's head chef, Derek Sarno-
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It was easy, fun, interesting, and delicious!
@@someguy2135bro we're not mario bros to eat mushrooms everyday
@@donainchhinayon2057 I was born before Mario was created. If he is eating mushrooms everyday, then he is imitating me! lol
You can keep it. Meat is meat and mushrooms are mushrooms. Actually, you don’t even have to make a mushroom-based meat mimic. As fungi are more closely related to animals than they are to plants, mushrooms have a lot of similar qualities to meat, but without the calories. They also have a lot more nutrients than people may think.
My only additions to the health side of things are that 1) some plant-based meats are more processed than others, so you can go for a pure veggie patty over beyond/impossible if sodium is a concern. And 2) meat from livestock risks contamination from antibiotics, hormones, and pathogens found in blood, pus, feces, and other bodily fluids during their processing
I tend to eat plant based meat sometimes not because it's vegetarian, but because it's a great invention and achievement of our society.
When I tried plant based meatballs at IKEA, I was astonished at how identical it was to actual meat.
I agree! Also, standard practices in animal agriculture make the development of more and worse antibiotic resistant pathogens only a matter of time.
Ending animal agriculture would also greatly reduce zoonotic diseases, epidemics and pandemics.
An often overlooked problem with animal meat is the effect than antibiotics have on antibiotic resistant germs. CAFOs often use a lot of antibiotics to control germs. As humans and animals share some of our germs, if the germs we share become antibiotic resistant for the animals, they will also become antibiotic resistant for humans who get infected after a contact with those animals. This is a concern more for public health in general than for specifically the health of people who eat the meat.
Plant products can also be contaminated with pathogens that cause food intoxication and poisoning. It’s not just a farmed meat thing.
@@terihaye1426 Plant products like lettuce that sometimes cause food poisoning are only due to the contamination of pathogens from animals, like the manure often used for fertilizer, or from runoff from animal agriculture CAFO's, etc.
Or we could go with non-meat protein sources that stand on their own, like falafel or tempeh.
At any rate, when lab-grown meat becomes commercially viable, I hope it's given names like Vitro-Veal, Petri-Pork, Lab-Lamb, and Tub-Turkey.
lab lamb is perfect
these names are clever LOL
my fav is petri-pork
This. Faux meat is so unnecessary. It's better to promote regular plant protein sources.
I would absolutely love to cook up some thin sliced Lab Lamb on a barbie, or some Petri-Pork in Shabu-Shabu. In the meantime though, I've got some firm tofu with my name on it tonight.
It’s tough doing no meats when you have tree nut and bean allergies such as myself 😢
Hi, environmental engineer here! It's fantastic to see discussions like these gaining traction. The shift towards plant-based and lab-grown meats is undoubtedly intriguing, driven by considerations for both personal health and the environment.
From my perspective, the "real" versus "fake" meat debate isn't just about taste or convenience, but also about the broader consequences for our planet. Traditional livestock farming has significant environmental implications, including deforestation, water consumption, and greenhouse gas emissions. Embracing plant-based alternatives can potentially reduce these burdens and pave the way for a more sustainable food future. However, as we delve into this conversation, it's crucial to consider a holistic view. Life cycle assessments comparing the environmental impacts of different meats are essential. While plant-based and lab-grown options can offer remarkable benefits, they still have their own set of challenges, such as processing methods, resource use, and waste management. Ultimately, our choices matter.
Agree. I think it's worth studying how much energy is used and waste is produced at these plant-based factories and its impact on the environment.
I for one want the slaughtering of animals to stop. But I don't want the farmers to neglect them, let alone abandon them. That's why I would prefer lab meat.
@@kevinlane1219 I want the slaughter to stop too. Unfortunately, that will not happen overnight. The silver lining, is that current farm animals aren't going to be "neglected... {or} abandoned." Lab meat requires very few "donors" so a few individuals in farm animal sanctuaries (like the one Jon Daily Show Stewart owns) would do the job.
@@daisyjo1979 "The primary ingredients for plant-based meats, on the other hand, have very low greenhouse gas emissions, and additional processing accounts for only 13%-26% of plant-based meat’s climate impact. The cropland no longer necessary for animal feed could even be used to mitigate climate change through reforestation, soil conservation, or renewable energy production."- Good Food Institute
Title, subtitle-"Plant-based meat for a growing world
Improving the efficiency of the Western diet is crucial to achieving sustainability. Plant-based meat allows consumers to enjoy the taste of meat at a fraction of the environmental cost."
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Wow I have a debate topic just on this in my school and I was scrolling through my notification and saw that TED Ed uploaded a new video and when I saw that topic I was estatic. Thanks Ted. It will really help me. :)
I just watched this Ted video fully, it's filled with lies, actual propaganda/marketing from big food.
Watch out with what you believe, if you want something on other parts about this video being wrong, like the heart risk from meat, let me know.
Fake meat will NEVER be good for you, it’s completely a lie.
@@thelaurens1996 would you be so kind to tell us what propaganda there is in this video?
@@thelaurens1996 based
@@thelaurens1996 ratio
After reading ultra processed people by Chris van Tulleken, I wonder if there really is an overall health benefit of mostly ultra processed plant based meats vs meat. Would it not be better to stick to less processed proteins and fats like tofu, tempeh, and legumes?
it is of course better but it's hard to convince people to leave meat fully (hence plant based meat)
I don’t like tofu and tempeh. But you are right. Beans are also a good alternative, and whole bread, peanut butter and other nuts . And you don’t need a lot of protein. But a plant based -hamburger is a good alternative once in a while. Especially with lot of baked onions. Also source of proteins.
Chris Van Tulleken is a fraud. Gives no evidence for his claims, just fear-mongering BS.
Of course we know UPF have to be treated with caution, but nothing he says has any evidence, only an argument that it is not 'natural'
plant base meat is unhealthy and bad for enviorment
It is even better to buy foods using restorative ag methods. It builds food nutrition of both plant and animal based foods. Restoration ag rebuilds water tables, soil health and soil carbon, uses less resources, creates less harmful wastes and bad byproducts. It avoids harmful synthetic chemical inputs. It creates local resiliency, allows degraded land to be reclaimed, costs less to produce, etc.
It's basically using biome based, polycropped, alleycropped, food producing perennials, trees, shrubs, and vines that uses diverse livestock to manage weeds, fertility, pests, culls, crop residues, etc. It helps build farmer resiliency, and provides many other benefits.
Look into the books on restoration ag by Mark Shepard.
Chapters and timestamps:
0:00 Introduction
0:25 Contestants
0:28 Farmed Meat
0:45 Plant-Based Meat
1:42 Lab-Grown Meat
2:12 Nutritional Considerations
3:15 Environmental Impacts
4:28 Best Option
I don't think this is necessary for a 4 minute video lol
@@Greenguy60 its not about that, its about attention.
I've heard humans are far better at absorbing animal proteins than plant proteins so even if the products contain the same amount you will actually be getting less protein from the same volume of food so you will need to eat more
it's actually the other way around...
That's not true
The proteins in foods from animals, such as meat, milk and eggs, tend to be absorbed more easily than those from plant sources, such as nuts, beans and grains. This is partly because of the fibrous coatings that help protect plants from insects and diseases, and this shield can also reduce the rate of digestion.
The difference in absorption is around 10 to 20% lower from plants than animals
@@TRDPaulHowever, even if you need to eat 10 to 20% more substitute than "Real meat" in order to reach your protein quota, the pollution (CO2, soil and water pollution) resulting from this is still far smaller than farmed meat.
@@JohkkoYou are outside of the main topic here, the main one is related on nutrition and you are talking on other topics about meat like pollution and stuff.
Aside from that, I don't see how the 10-20% more to get protein qouta met important as there are 3 courses of meals which can cover the protein quota in just one day assuming you eat foods containing protein.
@@lazyboi4824 I mean, inside your 3 daily meals you can put 10 to 20% more vegan protein.
Very interesting topic and well presented, as always. I’m so glad I watch these videos
I would call tempeh a fake meat but yes there are plenty of vegetarian sources of protein that aren’t fake meat but still good like chickpeas, beans, peas, nuts, etc.
I skip my 1 meat based meal a day, not bc i watched this video... but bc i'm poor.
Plant base food still can cause environmental concerns. For example, rainforests are being cut down in order to farm and grow specific crops. This isn't the only reason, mind you, but it is one of them. Next, farms sometimes use chemicals to prevent bugs and parasites. These chemicals can also run off to water ways and other environmental habitats.
Simply put, both have their pros and cons. This clip does an okay job at explaining these pros and cons but leaves out some context or other key information in order to persuade an opinion. It is difficult to get past personal opinions or biases. Therefore, it is important to seek multiple resources to get a bigger picture.
Very true, also the negative health effects of eating red meat that was cited in the video was a fairly loose claim and also said "processed meat". I honestly think eating pasture raised or wild meat is the healthiest option but in general I think the largest thing to note is people should just eat less processed food.
This is the first time not trusting Ted videos!
We all know that highly processed anything is not suitable for human health as we don't have enough data for long-term effects.
This has got to be my favorite TED-Ed animation, and I've seen 100's of TED-Eds, well done
Agreed
0:40 That bunny said, "Not me, girl!" 😂😂😂
😂😂
I wish I could eat that bunny.
SO MUCH FOR 5mins! But I wish more details were expressed about the preservatives and feed used for agricultural farming.
I know there are so many kinds of foods and flavors in the world.
If I can let go of attachment, there're always alternatives.
While there aren't studies on long term outcomes, there are some studies on the effect of plant-based meat alternatives vs meat on disease risk factors, and they're consistently better, probably because of the fiber content, lack of cholesterol and potentially inflammatory molecules, the plant proteins themselves, and maybe the presence of compounds with antioxidant effects, which are much higher in plants before processing. I feel like this should've been mentioned in the video.
Also, I find it hilarious that the narrator's name is Carolyn "Beans" 😂
What should've also been mentioned in the video is that giving livestock 5% of an algae diet reduces their methane emissions by 95%, which would theoretically make real meat more environmentally friendly then plant based meat ironically
The question that was imposed on the title is problematic?I mean you know Meat is better than something that is fake,fake meat.Right?Then what's the point of asking this question in the first place!?
I’m allergic to tree nuts, including coconuts. No plant based meats for me
Then eat farmed meat
I may be missing something? The only way it seems that eating both animal and plant based options would not be of some benefit, is if people add all the plant based calories to their diet without adjusting their animal product calorie intake. That seems unlikely or statistically insignificant. If it is truly significant I would love details on the mechanism.
Restoration ag takes out the environmental, and "we-need-to-feed-the-planet" controversy as well. It uses both on the same acreage, so there us much less waste, other harms while providing varied, more deeply nutritious foods...
That’s what the video said - some people may choose to just eat “another option” while eating the same amount of animal based meat - they did say that even just reducing farmed red meat for an alternative for one meal a day can have a lot of benefits.
In Bulgaria meat is usually eaten at dinner or lunch, but i have noticed in my friendsband in my family that it's usually 1-2 meals per day.
But i also see that we consume much higher amounts of dairy.
I will eat any edible food that I am not allergic to and did not pass its expiration date, which is why I always read the ingredients label first. My question is what happens to those food expired products?
Dear TedEd, a few studies are mentioned in the video. Why not post links to these studies so we can read more about them and how they were conducted?
My own addition about this is that the form of heme can have different dietary effects. I have (non-terminal) cancer in my intestine and an iron deficiency where if I don't consume enough red meat I get physically ill. As such, plant based meat isn't much of an option for me though I would like to try the lab grown as it's more likely to be accepted by my gut better. Mind you, my issues are unique and probably don't apply to very many people.
Have you ever heard about regenerative farming practises? That way you can rise better quality meat with smaller or even negative emisions. Plus there are enormous benefits for enviroment and biodiversity which non of the oher meat alternatives can´t provide. I know it is still minority of food which is produced this way, but it is scalable solution for lots of our curent global problems and would be great if you mention it.
I wish Tofu en Tempeh would be added to the comparison. I try to limit my intake of animal products to 1 meal a week because i'm not entirely sold on the fact that one can life a healthier life just being vegan. We have been eaten animal products for tens of thousands of years and it seems risky to be completely vegan at a young age.
However we need to do something for better health, climate animal welfare, so i hope the meat alternatives keep getting healthier and tastier.
I think standard vegan is healthier than the standard American diet, but you should eat Whole Foods and limit if not completely eliminate animal products.
Your doing great ! Thank you for your efforts !
To fight climate change, we have to reduce the general consumption ! Don't worry to much if you eat meat sometimes !
Reducing the general consumption will be good for everyone ! By reducing the demand, we can lower the price and allows poor people to afford better quality meat, healthier and better for the environment !
As you said, most humans have eaten meat for so long. But they did'nt eat red meat every day. It was more like a few meat meal a week, mostly poultry and red meat for special occasions !
I think it is a good way to think of meat like a festive meal !
This section is great, you're all wonderful. Exactly this, eating meat after a long hunt was a special occasion that did not happen regularly. Eat a mostly plant diet with meat rather occasionally, and you'll do great.
The important part is just reducing quantity. Meat is so incredibly nutritionally dense that you don't need to eat very much of it often.
It's great that you're doing your best at the moment! However, a proper whole-food plant-based diet is for all ages of life. Unless you cut out animal exploitation altogether, don't use vegan as plant-based best describes it. Tofu and tempeh won't be added for a while, as they aren't very well known in the West yet. Going vegan is the best thing any individual can do, not only for the animals but for your health and the planet.
tofu is not an option for everyone, besides the ones who are alergic to soy some like me have hormone and health problems and are not recomended to ingest soy
I'm a middle school science teacher - everything about this video is perfect. The animation is incredible and narrator's tone is engaging for the kids (and me) thank you!!
I really like your animations. Humour, informative and fun.
I once ate a veggie burger on accident.
I couldn't finish it because it tasted like lawnmower mulch.
Guys, quit arguing, just eat your vegetables every once in a while
NOOOO
I’ll probably just eat all of them at some point. Not more than like once a month though. I don’t eat meat often. And when I do it’s usually chicken. It seems good to have a variety. I think pizza is what I eat the most. Plus other things.
Thank you for covering this topic. Very Fascinating!
The animation is amazing! This was so fun to watch!
The most interesting points I learned from this video:
1. Replacing red meat with chicken, nuts, or legumes for one meal a day can help reduce mortality risk by 7-19%. However, the same effects cannot yet be established with plant-based meat alternatives.
2. In terms of animal welfare, public health, and environmental concerns, plant-based meat alternatives seem to be the best choice. However, which is the best nutritionally cannot yet be established.
3. Forgoing red meat at just one meal a day can decrease one's personal dietary carbon emissions by as much as 48%.
A couple of notes on this:
1. Another option is you could just forget about meat altogether and get your protein from plants high in it instead.
2. Lab-grown meat may lead to the same amount of carbon emissions as normal meat farming so I think that plant-based meat is always going to be the best option for the environment.
3. Just gone vegetarian, and I haven't touched lab grown meat yet, I'm getting my protein mainly from eggs, dairy and peanuts. I'll read some reviews on which brand is best and try it out.
This is a really poor comparison. Any processed food, including plant based, is much poorer than whole plant based food. Why wasn't this included in your comparison?
A moment of silent respect for our nameless warriors aka poor college students who replace all the meals of a day with a mixture of instant ramen, hope and love to save the Earth
Lab grown meat also currently relies on foetal bovine serum as a medium for cell growth, which also comes from the animals themselves via an arguably painful collection method.
The bunny inching back got me 😂
we forgot to talk about the vats of antibiotics needed to make lab grown meat
Overall an informative video but may overlook several things. For example much grasslands, unsuitable for crops, are great for animals such as cattle. Cattle with their complex stomachs can digest this grass and extract nutrients where humans cannot. Another consideration would be the farming practices required in a vegetarian world, likely requiring mass monocultures that may save some cows but would simultaneously do considerable damage to the biodiversity of the overall environment. Vegans mean well but I believe, fail to understand the complexity of of mother nature and the fact that we are an omnivorous part of it.
Wow, I actually didn’t know plant meat contained as much nutrients etc
Well, it depends. There are still some that just try to mimic taste, and not protein content, so just look out for that. Most have nice pea, wheat, soy protein, etc. or a mix, which is enough.
THE WAY THE LAB GROWN MEAT LOOKS
I'M AN ABOMINATION! AND I'M COMING TO YOUR HOUSE AFTER SCHOOL!
*TASTES*
Great video, nice and concise.
My main issue is the cost. Plant based alternatives tend to be pretty pricey for not a lot of food. I'm not made of money and its cheaper to buy regular meat instead of the plant based stuff. Especially since plant based stuff tends to have a mark up because its a little trendier and all that.
Like, its cheaper for me to buy normal meat and a lot of normal vegetables than try to buy a little bit of plant based meat.
I believe, in essence, that if you want to eat something other than meat (say you are a vegan for example like it is the case for most people eating "mock meats") then you should try and eat a meal that is naturally plant based, I.e. you make it good and healthy without trying to mimmick meat because its more natural and coincidentally, doesn't have those health risks.
Its amazing how hard some vegans go to not eat legumes and vegetables
Completely true, but starting with meat alternatives that mimic what I was used to, helped me a lot with transitioning to vegetarianism.
Our cultural inheritance and taste buds don't change as much as we like to our personal dietary choices. We have had hundreds of thousands of years to develop a menu and food creations around animal products. Vegan diets are just now becoming safely widespread with the advancements of dietary science. You think that you would not try because it feels"off"and not as satisfying, that is an experience vegans also have. Going hard on consuming only plants (and fungi) will only work out for any particular individual if we manage to sustain options for all tastes.
The lack of umami can be remedied. Some mushrooms give very strong aromas. MSG - in moderation of frequency and amount, if you think it is as bad as we thought for the longest time - can add to the sensation. Generous use of spices (not salt) or other herbs makes any meal more satisfying and even filling.
I myself like meat - I try to buy the more animal friendly produced options (as friendly as they can get when the animal is still killed before its time, but we can treat them with respect until it is time) and maybe it is easier for me because I always liked all varieties of vegetables (apart from white asparagus, go away ...). But I am not depending on having it constantly - neither did our ancestors, which are often cited as only having become so intelligent because of meat consumption ...
I've been Vegan 7 years. I've hardly eaten any mock products at all. Except soya milk if that counts.
Guess what? You can make your own salt- and oil-free bean or lentil burgers.
The animation is so good! This is some Adventure Time level of quality.
Nice vid though would still be better to mention the ideal option: No meat. No fake meat nor real meat.
I bet our teacher Carolyn Beans knows very well what is a much better source of protein and fiber: BEANS
I Tried plant base patty in 7 eleven and tasted nice tho flavor was masked by aromatic herbs but the texture was very similar
I do think that another important thing to consider is that the majority of our farmed crops are also being fed to animals. So as we reduce the amount of animal consumption, we reduce the amount of animals purposefully being bred into existence and further decrease the amount of carbon emissions being generated by animal agriculture. And at the same time, reduces the amount of land being used and pollutants being drained into our water.
I like to go for plant based burgers. It usually tastes the same or better. Since it's usually a mixture of plants than all cow it offers a party in my mouth sort of situation.
The question that was imposed on the title is problematic?I mean you know Meat is better than something that is fake,fake meat.Right?Then what's the point of asking this question in the first place!?
I love the animation! It's so cute ❤
Great animation❤
the negative health effects of eating red meat that was cited in the video was a fairly loose claim and also said "processed meat". I honestly think eating pasture raised or wild meat is the healthiest option but in general I think the largest thing to note is people should just eat less processed food
Me and my boyfriend love Quorn "chicken" nuggets. My meat-eating boyfriend even favours them over real chicken nuggets, so I suggest you give it a try :)
Also, protein is found in legumes, beans and peanut butter too!
I heard about these differences in college in the 1980's so it's disappointing that this discussion is still being debated now. If the Government had thrown as much money behind plant based agriculture as it does the meat industry, Americans wouldn't be as unhealthy as we are now. Neither would the soil, air or water...
Can someone just tell me which the video says?
loved this
Love these
I can see Lab Grown Meat can become the food of the future.
I will go further to say lab grown meat once it can be massed produced will be the "food for the masses" while the Farmed Meat will become a form of luxury reserved for the elites.
There are a few catches with lab-grown to consider, tho. Argueably the biggest is that you'd have clonal (clone) cells without any inmune system whatsoever that could easily go extinct the first virus, bacteria or fungus they meet, so you'd need insane amounts of antibiotics (with their environmental impact) to keep them alive. Also, they lack the ability to detox, so you'd have also to figure a way to remove the antibiotics too.
@@meyer6891 The clean room argument has been mostly debunked. We don't need it to be lab standard. Insane amount of antibiotics are used in animal farming right now.
Lab grown meat has to be cancer cells, you can’t just take regular autosomal cells out of the body and expect them to replicate in a foreign place.
@@chrismcgowan5180 I'd like to check the review you're basing yourself on to say that we don't need antibiotics as a lab standard. Adding to your point, around 70% of antibiotics used in industrial meat production aren't necessary, since they're strictly growth promotors (I think this use is shared within serum substitutes)
@@chrismcgowan5180 In my country antibiotics are not used unless absolutely necessary and can only be used under the strict guidance of a registered vet.
I eat a looooot of meat - steak, chicken, pork, all of it. My entire family is vegetarian, so that makes for funny conversation when I’m ordering food lol
Well its great i will definitely go full plant based meat source once its available in market for now i eat non veg once in 2 months or a month so yeah
Never forget they turned the mammoth into a meatball.
the animation is SO good
- The video's question is never answered regarding nutrition.
- Where are the references for the video's claims?
- The info presented is over-simplified and avoids answering the numerous criticisms of plant-based.
I’m always fascinated how everyone talks about how plant based meats is a new tech, and more attention is not given to vegetarian meats that have already been perfected in Asia for over a 1000 years without all the fancy equipment
I not sure how accurate the green meat values are with the gas emissions.
Because in the end of the day you have much more data over meet production and consecuences, as is widely spread industry. In comparation(general lines) side plant based meat is a more young industry, that didn't reach the same scale in production in a real world environment, and each jump in scale carry unknown concequences and require solutions are not contemplated until they meet experienced.
The only missing thing in this well done video is that even vegetarians and vegans that consume this plant based meat dont do it in a regular basis; is just an ocasional thing to eat for the majority.
This has basically always been how I've seen it - being a vegetarian/vegan really isn't healthier in the ways they espouse (nor less healthy, if done right, the point is that meat or lack of it can both fit into a balanced diet); but it sure is better for the planet
I don't know? Imma have to double check your info of those stats. 🤔
"don't eat red meat for just one meal a day" easy enough. I already don't eat bacon for breakfast every single day. This is incredibly educational, but my only concern is that it seems to assume that the average person is eating some kind of red meat for every meal, every day, when, in my experience talking with my friends/relatives/coworkers, nobody we know is eating that much meat.
And as much as the vegans want it, we will never get rid of meat consumption entirely. First off there are people who absolutely have to have real meat in their diet for medical reasons. Kidney disease patients are the first ones that come to mind. Plant based meats contain too much potassium, which dialysis patients cannot get rid of and will ultimately lead to their death from DKA. Second if we stop meat production entirely, what do we feed our pets? Dog and cats especially *NEED* meat to live a healthy life. Some pet can do ok on vegan diets, but the vast majority would die from malnutrition, something peta never considers when they go their misguided crusade to end all consumption of meat.
At 2:46, the video claims plant "meat" contains just as much protein as real meat. This might look somewhat true on paper but is misleading. Plants have lower or significantly lower protein bioavailibility compared to meats such as chicken and beef. Not to mention, plants have significantly less variety and amounts of different and essential amino-acids.
Furthermore, for the same amount of calories, real meat contains more protein as a proportion per calorie ingested, so to get the same amount of protein, you need to eat more plant-based "meat". I would very much call this more unhealthy compared to real meat.
I understand that it's trendy in some circles to look down on real meat for some reason, but I wanted to add this comment to highlight that there are very real and valid reasons to eat real meat and so long as you don't eat a steak every night and eat vegetables in general as well, you will be fine and healthy.
As long as you eat a variety of plant proteins you'll get all the amino acids you need. Your second paragraph is cherry picking and doesn't accurately reflect the variety of foods available. Meat is studied, that's why eating a lot of it is criticized. This has more to do with your health fears than giving healthy advice.
I also see that there is the usual argument of "plant meat needs less water than farmed meat" and its derivatives that are completely U.S.-centric and ignore details such as:
- 94% of the water used for animal agriculture is green water, eg. rainfall which means renewable and is not at all wasted
- Most land (about 2/3) used for agriculture is unsuitable for growing crops. This can be due to soil quality, the land quality (eg hills or mountains) or climate. What does grow there is grass which can be upcylced by ruminants (cows, sheep mostly) to edible products. (Thinks of cows in the Alps, you can't grow any crops there)
- 86% of food to cows is inedible by humans and often this is waste from crop-raising like what happens with the corn plants that get fed to cows (not the corn, the stem and leaves).
- Methane production from cows is actually a natural cycle and carbon neutral. methane -> CO2 -> plant -> cow -> methane.
So again, I was expecting such a slanted view, but disappointed nevertheless. You can see some of these stats directly from this U.N. report for example: www.fao.org/3/cc3134en/cc3134en.pdf
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>As long as you eat a variety of plant proteins you'll get all the amino acids you need.
That's the problem. Animal meat will get you all you need in one go. Animal proteins are complete proteins. You don't need to cherry pick what you need to eat to be healthy.
>Your second paragraph is cherry picking and doesn't accurately reflect the variety of foods available.
I don't think so. I've been counting calories for years and am well aware of how limited the options are if you want to have the same efficiency eating plants compared to just eating meat.
@@Edirneli You just eat a variety of plants, it's neither complex nor part of a health crisis.
Beyond beef burger has 10% less calories than 80/20 (lean, normal for burgers) beef, and actually more calories from protein. You can get fake chicken with more calories than real stuff, and the opposite with bacon. It depends on what you're comparing.
@@Edirneli I read "methane is carbon neutral" (natural cycle wow) and it's hard to argue with someone who doesn't understand the chemistry. ✌
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4:43 Here we go. You guys just had to say this, right?
Sorry not sorry they broke your bubble.
@@andieallison6792 What bubble? Carboon footprint was coined by (you guys call it) "big oil" to throw the guilt/responsibility onto us, individuals. Yet individuals can't change sheit. Compare your """carbon footprint""" to literally any company and suddenly it's almost nonexistent. So you cutting your "dietary carbon emission" by half means literally nothing in the big picture. You need laws, not individual's decisions.
"What is better for you"
I don't know man I just work here
1:47 I can't take these names seriously anymore
I still can't wrap my head around plant-based or lab-grown meat. You could simply ditch out meat altogether and start eating tempeh or tofu or other plant-based protein source without ultra processing them to look like meat. Maybe because western cultures have no idea how to turn them into tasty dish yet.
as a vegetarian, I know what you mean, but also: people don't just like the taste of meat, but also the rituals around it (like going to a fast food chain with their friends, or grilling). I was too like "well, just eat tofu or seitan, why do you need to copy meat" but then I went to a McDonald with some friends, and I was able to participate in the happy moment of eating there together, because they had a beyond meat burger option.
It's the same with smoking: it's not just nicotine, there is a gestuality to it, a social aspect to it, and so on. Plant-based or lab-grown meat could ease the transition for some people.
meat is a part of diet.. u can't just throw it away. Remember when America banned beers? Yea. I don't think u do.
Trying to remove stuff like smoking or alcohol or meat is next to impossible.
Most food we eat is “ultra-processed” processing refers to anything that doesn’t resemble its original state, while we should embrace options like tofu and tempeh, these alternatives aren’t as bad as you’re claiming.
@@soulstice33 I don't understand the point of your comment: so? We changed our diet many times, during the centuries. There are things that are eaten in some cultures, and not in others. What is your point? If someone wants to create an alternative for meat, because it would be better for the environment and for the health, why wouldn't they? Who said anything about "throwing meat away"? Are you literate?
You can create meat from jackfruit to. I didn't know that
Good video.
Would like to add plant based meats have 0 cholesterol
Another bad point.
if plants are also living beings then isn't eating vegetables is same as eating meat ?
No.
If YOU are also living then... are you the same as a carrot? No, you have a brain and nervous system. You have emotions and a subjective experience of the world.
@@Lucas43434 living beings, which includes plants, need not show emotional response whether they are happy or sad
@@auro1986 yes
4:14 how about one harvest, immortalization of cells and constant culture?
@@vobp-kk6kz cancer is a disease, cancerous cells are indeed dividing indefinetely, but it doesnt mean that syntethtically immortal cells are cancer
@@vobp-kk6kz it doesnt change anything in this instance tho, you can perfectly do that to grow meat
oh my god the lab grown meat-
I was trying to focus on the educational value of the video but tHE LAB GROWN M E A T-
also that plant based hot dog is an icon
Interesting that they did not tell how the plant based "meat" is manufactured or that "Heme" is acquired from a gmo.
That plant-based sausage is truly seductive.
Keep it
We tried a packet of plant based sausages and it was OK for factory produced sausages. Bland, as are factory sausages. But we buy meat sausages (beef, chicken or lamb) from a butcher who makes them at his shop and they are so delicious.
Are you a vegan?
Because i want to eat your
"plant-based *meat*"
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That sounds cringe.
@@b_uppy lol
I always thought that in some future we would consume insect meat. But now watching this video makes me question about that choice 😅
Between 2 of the same-ish quality product, the only difference that matters is the price tag and it feels like a LOT of these videos discussing the topic including this knowingly leave that out of the talk.
I feel like they do not bring it up because there is an exclusive concern about health. We also do not bring up price when discussing other foods.
yeah but prices change. And with new products they usually change dramatically. So if they mention the price difference new, it may not be valid at all in 3 years
If you're worried about price, rice and beans are probably the best protein source
@@Nickdpoul *now?
Wait? They keep saying reducing red meat one meal a day? How much red meat do people eat a day?
This video is flawed. It cites a study that lumps all red meats together instead of taking account of meats produced under different ag methods. Conventionally raised livestock have products that are inflammatory in nature, and that causes a myriad of health problems, whereas livestock that is mob grazed on diverse pasture yields much healthier products that are also deeply nutritious and avoid the inflammatory byproducts that comes with poor diet and stressful living conditions.
3:22 Most countries are developing, therefore less efficient at producing meat while generating more greenhouse gases than developed ones
nice video
Why not eat the plant directly without trying to make it look like meat first?
You will literally have to kill me before I stop eating beef.
but how do plant-based meats get their flavor?
At some point any one of the two will be a delicacy. So, an average person will go for the cheaper alternative whether that's "eco-friendly" or "healthy".
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