Will My Intake or Exhaust Void My Warranty? Here is What They Told Me!
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- Опубліковано 4 сер 2024
- In this video I discuss my personal experience with a local dealership for future warranty service on my 2021 GMC Sierra AT4.
I also tweak my S&B cold air intake for a little extra air flow by removing the optional, secondary breather port.
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Your videos on this intake made me pull the trigger and order mine for my AT4 6.2 and I’m so excited to get it here and install it!
Hope you enjoy it!
Got to love the Summer Months. Winter weather sucks. I try not to drive my truck when the DOT is out spreading Salt on the roads.
Nice truck's! I'm a technician for GM and MY process is that if i can directly associate the problem to the aftermarket accessorie then i let my manager know. If GM kicks back the claim i personally get back flagged but so as long as I have a manager involved and they authorize the repair I'm covered from getting back flagged
Thanks for the perspective Russell
Perfect Thanks Worth the wait ✌️👍🇨🇦
It took 6 weeks to get the air filter. Part of the reason for the wait. I wanted to film the port removal, filter and warranty info all together
Government serves no purpose other than fear and intimidation.
Fear, chaos and intimidation
I’m in Edmonton and have a 2019 AT4 with 73,000kms. At 70,000km i had a rough downshift from 4-3. Brought it in, they called me 3hrs later saying they felt the rough downshift but asked me if i heard the ticking noise. I did but thought it was just a noisy injector or something. Sure enough it was a bad lifter. I have a afe magnum intake and jlt catch can. No issues with warranty. 1 lifter and push rod was damaged. They replaced all lifters and the one push rod which fell under the remaining powertrain warranty i still have. I was originally told i would have to pay for the transmission relearn but if that didnt solve it, to bring it back and it would likely be mechanical and would be covered. They fixed it 100% and put the transmission under my powertrain so i owed nothing.
Meant to reply sooner and thank you for the information
Good content thanks for the information..
You’re welcome
Watching video like this I got my 2022 Ram before I do my cutback exhaust I called them they say it’s ok it wil not void my warranty… Thanks for the videos
Love the way it sounds. I'm sbout to do the same to mines. S&B intake and pulsar LT tuner and borla exhaust
Nice 👍
I’ve heard taking the cover off of the port allows for more dirt and debris to enter the intake. Saying you drove on dusty roads had me a bit concerned. In the end though it just means you may be buying filters more often. Unless you get the washable one.
Love your trucks sound! When I get the money I’m likely getting a Borla system myself. Got the S and B intake 3 days ago.
You're right about the dust and debris getting in, not sure about on the Sierra but I had the S&B intake on my 2017 Ram Hemi and I left the port out. There is a filter sock from S&B you can get that will greatly help with this though.
Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. OE warranty CAN NOT be voided unless it is proven that the aftermarket part is what caused the failure of another part. I worked as a dealer tech for several years and I've seen dealers try to claim aftermarket parts void warranty to entire vehicle.
I really appreciate your videos and thank you for all the research and everything you do. I have a question for you a little off subject. I have searched and searched…with no luck. I would assume you have the infotainment 3 UEI hd radio and back up camera in your at4. I have an SLE with the IOR radio and the back up camera screen is extremely bright at night. To the point it’s white washed out. Do you have any information about this issue? I don’t know if it affects the HD quality radios. Lots of people online looking for answers.
I briefly looked into this. Seems to be a shared issue at least in part with several models for both Chevy and GM. I luckily don’t experience this with my 8” HD screen. I have two adjustments. One via the ambient light sensor which will allow day, night and auto. Then the cabin illumination control by the fog light switch will dim or brighten the screen with the rest of the interior lights. My reverse camera is also a correct brightness level too even with my upgraded lighting from my tailgate LED strip and license plate bulbs. I will keep an eye out for you, but I would think it could be corrected via a software fix should GM choose to pursue it. I am not aware of a TSB for your issue either
Just a question whether or not they think you'll call a lawyer, because it's supposed to be 100% illegal to void a warranty over properly installed modifications.
When you installed the intake did you have to unplug the battery for a while to reset the computer programming/tuning?
I had my Sierra shoot all the same codes when I had the front caliper apart I cleared the codes and it’s never done it or been an issue again.
I am so happy that you mentioned that you ran the Cold Air Inductions intake before the S&B. Which do you prefer? Did one make a bigger difference than the other? Would you recommend one over the other if you were going to keep the exhaust stock? I really appreciate all of your videos on your AT4!
I like both the same for different reasons. The S&B is louder and I feel suits the theme of my AT4 more. The CAI is quieter but still gives similar gains to the S&B. It is also an easier install. Both are well complimented with an aftermarket exhaust. With a stock exhaust you’ll notice the S&B’s noise more bit it also has a larger and more exposed filter that will potentially dirty faster
@@Donslife that was a perfect explanation. I have a 2019 Sierra Denali with the 6.2l and it is the family everyday rig. I would like to make it known it has the 6.2l but I do not want it to command the attention that the AT4's or the Trail Boss LT's do. My decision is very clear now! Thank you very much!
What are your thoughts/differences on the 2 intakes that you have had on your truck? S&B vs Cold Air Inductions. Which one do you prefer and why? Just picked up 22 AT4 refreshed body and looking to do some mods.
Depends what your after. Conservative and well-built or Aggressive and well-built. For the Escalade I prefer the cold air induction unit. For the rugged At4, the S&B.
Absolutely not it does not void your warranty. I literally got the dealership to take one off of a truck that I Bought, but then give it back to them because it was broke
I've had my s&b cold air intake in for 2 weeks now & my check engine filter light has been on since 2 days afterwards 😡
Hi, is the lifter issue only on the 6.2L or does it also affect the 5.3L’s. Great videos by a good old Saskatchewan boy!
From what I have researched, it can happen in both the 5.3 and 6.2 engines with AFM or DFM
I’m actually getting 2mpg better with my borla muffler added on my 2022 HC
That’s pretty good!
Hey Don…. Got a quick about the GM cat back exhaust system that maybe you could help answer…. I am considering ordering/purchasing a new 2023 AT4 and looking at the car back exhaust. In your opinion, would you order the truck with the exhaust installed by the factory or would you do it after you’ve taken delivery of the truck?
The GM optioned one is quieter (Touring). I like mine (for this project) to be a little more aggressive. Truthfully, the Touring one will be a big improvement too
Ordered a 23 AT4 about a month ago. Specifically asked my dealer and they said, intake, exhaust, and leveling kit would NOT void the warranty but if I lifted the truck or did any ECU flash it would void the warranty.
Thanks for the share. That is what I typically hear too.
I'm suddenly curious about something after seeing this video. I have a 2019 AT4 w/the 6.2L and have almost 26K miles to date. Twice during this time, since driving it off the lot, I've had all of the "idiot lights" turn on for whatever reason, and there was a point in the video that reminded me of the same notification on your dash display. Does this mean that I may have a lifter issue as well? Is there any correlation? The last time it happened was just a couple days ago....drove into work (26 miles) with the idiot lights on from the start and when I went to back into my parking spot the parking brake was engaged. I'd not engaged it, it was just on and my vehicle wouldn't move. I disabled it and was able to park. When I left for my lunchbreak all of the idiot lights were off, but it's certainly concerning seeing your dash light up like mine did with those warning lights, so I'm just curious if I could potentially have a lifter problem (based upon the info given). If anyone would be so kind as to chime in I would appreciate it.
If you are hearing the dreaded ticking, I would be concerned and get it checked out.
@@Donslife Thanks Don, happy to report no ticking to date but I will certainly keep an ear out for it. Keep up the great work.
I asked GM about a cold air intake installation on my 2019 because I'm getting them to do a warranty approved borla exhaust and they told me that the intake would void the warranty and they didn't offer any to go with my exhaust. Super disappointing
the only way you could void the warranty on lifters is to replace the cam with a different spec, rocker arms or wrong oil. Cat back exhaust will not void the warranty. You can order the truck with a aftermarket cat back.
Thank you
What exhaust modification did you have done question mark and did it help power or fuel economy
I have the Borla SType. I don’t recall any noteworthy mileage changes. Not worse anyway
Don’t you have to disable the air filter on your truck settings when you install and cold air intake?
Yes you do and I have. I cover this step in my install videos
What exhaust do u have
I absolutely love than two tone paint scheme on the roof and cab! So sexy.
I've never been told that a intake would void my warranty I've had Chevrolets I've had Kias Mazdas and many other vehicles and they all had intakes on them plus General Motors makes their own intake system for that truck that you have so they came back and said the intake voided your warranty I would be like well you guys make one right out of your own house and they make an exhaust system to
Me neither until the last few years. I attribute it to a ‘people’ thing not a company policy
Under the magnuson-moss ACT they cannot void your warranty if you just add an air intake or exhaust there is nothing that you're doing wrong
Exactly. Similarly, Canada has the Consumer Protection Act
What happened to the Cold Air Induction intake you installed? Which one performs the best in your opinion and/or is the best “bang for your buck”?
I have both. Moved the Cold Air Inductions CAI into the Cadillac and put the S&B in the AT4. Both are excellent IMO. The S&B is a more involved install and has a more aggressive intake sound. The CAI takes half as much time to install and is more stealth. If you want rugged and beefy, go S&B. If you want subtle, go Cold Air Industries.
I’m sensing a review/comparison video… 😉
Nissan seems to be okay with it, as long as it doesn't throw any codes in the computer, I've never had an issue, and they hook it up to the computer every year when they do the inspection.
I think most warranty shops are reasonable
@@Donslife yeah, Nissan once replaced a six, seven thousand dollars passenger seat airbags and all, because the stitching was coming undone on the back pocket.
Hey Don. Did you receive the error code before or after you installed your oil catch can ? Thx
Way before
@@Donslife I figured so. Thx for sharing
Don,
Did you change out your cold air
Intake and if so why ?
CAI to S&B
Both are excellent and both fit our new 2022 Esclade with the 6.2. Since the S&B is more aggressive and compliments my exhaust tone more, I put the Cold Air Industries one in the Escalade.
There was no tuning required for cai and cat-back? Tuning usually voids warranty?
No tuning required for these parts in the video. A custom ECU tune is possible but will void your warranty.
Will a cold air intake help with your truck getting water hydro lock ?
I think it would come down to the aftermarket design compared to the OE design. The better the unit is sealed from moisture (and maybe higher up - like a snorkel) will lower the risks
Here are the facts, regardless of what any dealership tells you. Anytime you install aftermarket parts, it is against federal law for the vehicle manufacturer to void your warranty. The only thing that happens is that the dealer can choose to not cover that aftermarket part and if anything goes wrong with the vehicle, they must prove that the part you installed is the cause of the issue. Therefore, if for example you installed an aftermarket cold air intake and the mass airflow sensor goes out, the dealer can choose to not cover it and force you to pay for a replacement as long as they can prove that the intake caused the problem. However, if your radiator leaks or whatever, then they are required to cover for the cost of repairs as long as your warranty is still valid. So to answer the question does it void the warranty? The answer is only in regards to that specific part. This also means that if your lifters go bad, which unfortunately seems to be getting more and more common with the 6.2, that the dealer will be required to cover the costs because a cold air intake cannot possibly cause your lifters to fail. That issue is a manufacturing problem.
Thanks for the additional insight
What federal law states that?
Yes this is what I heard from a mechanic
@@dustinherring4146 Magnusson Moss Act
There is something to mention that a lot of people forget. When it comes to small warranty repairs the dealership has discretion to fix it under warranty. But for major repairs like a engine or transmission usually the car manufacturer not the dealership will want to investigate. The manufacturer will definitely want to blame aftermarket parts on anything they can. Even if you believe the part did not cause the failure you will have to fight them in court. The protection laws you mentioned are not enforced by the police. They are enforced by lawyers.
Good points. Thanks! I think some people just accept things without receiving clear and reasonable explanations.
Hello I have the same truck. I replaced my air filter with the same and I got this check air filter code on my truck that won't go away. Any suggestions?
Did you disconnect the battery during the install? Also you have to turnoff the air filter monitor in your trucks vehicle settings right before or after the install, otherwise it will sense that something airflow related changed and register a check engine light. The dealer has to clear that for you.
@Donslife no I didn't turn off the air filter monitoring before or after the installation. . Guess I missed that part when reading the instructions. 🤦🏽♂️
Does is make sense to have an aftermarket intake with stock pipes?
An aftermarket intake will not make a difference with or without pipes. Most you'll get out of it is better throttle response, sound, and MAYBE 1HP gain. A modified motor with a tune would benefit from an intake.
will it make it louder if you put it in sport mode?
Not really louder per se, but sport mode holds the gear longer before shifting, so loud longer would be more accurate
Don I one to put only flowmaster on mi truck soo warranty don't void tha right
It shouldn’t if the installation is done correctly
What about the catch can do u ask them about it?
No, but it would follow the same logic. They can’t deny warranty unless they can prove the part contributed to the failure
Fear, chaos and intimidation?!?! Wtf?!😂 that would actually be a good name for an custom exhaust shop F.C.I. Customs 🤣
Will axle back void warranty?
It shouldn’t in the US and Canada of installed properly
If it’s not in writing they will always make an excuse to void your warranty.
Guaranteed to not cover your warranty.
When do we get the Don'sWife channel......
I told her it would probably do way better than mine
Does camming void warranty
In my opinion - increases the risk, but it depends if whatever breaks down had anything to do with the changes you made
That's called a hot air intake, not a cold air intake. It breaths from inside the engine bay.
The front bottom of the air box is fed by a 4-5” tube that is in front and above the radiator.
@@Donslife Yes until you removed that gasket it was a nice CAI! Now it's a HAI lol
Hey bro are in saskatoon also i got the edge pulsar for sale im trading my tb truck.
I am. PulsarLT?
@@Donslife its make the 6.2 & 5.2 alive pulsar lt man.
Chevy makes a cold air intake
Cold air intakes don't void warranties
I agree overall. But people do run into some friction at some locations where they require warranty work
Three tickets in 6 weeks? 😯😂
Insanity.
And who was that charming young lady at the start of this video? Not a car enthusiast I would presume🙄.
That’s Mrs Donslife at the dealership getting her Cadillac
@@Donslife no, at the very beginning is a remake giving a speech. She is politely blasting aftermarket exhaust. Very brief segment.
@@rickyhawkins7407 Now I follow 😂
I feel intimidated...😔
Mission accomplished
That pretty shirt, is going to get so dirty, why is it bugging me
This is what happens when you have too much time on your hands.
Remain calm. Several subscribers have been asking for this video. At least 3 or 4 anyway.
Should of got a lightning bud. Much quieter and more balls
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