Keep in mind that the 8 port "switch" or LAN ports on the UDM's (pro/SE) both are actually 9 port switches, in that the 9th 1Gbps port is what is directly connected to the CPU. This is why you can't do link aggregation on those ports. So depending on the exact use case you can have a bottleneck on those ports as well, as you only have a max of 1Gbps. Its like your 24 port switches uplink ports. Also if you have a spare port on the 8-port Link Agg switch, you can aggregate both 1Gbps links to a single 2Gbps port for higher throughput to the UDM over that 10G connection. I have a similar setup in that I come from 10G LAN port to the 32 port Aggregation switch, and from there have 2x10Gbps aggregated ports to the 24 Port POE Pro switch and 4x10Gbps to the 48 Port POE Pro switch. This allows transfers between those switches and other parts of the network to be faster. It helps remove potential bottlenecks. 🤠👍
I appreciate these videos. You have a great conversational style of presentation. Also, I appreciate the balanced presentation of the UDR. I think many users had sky-high expectations due to the reputation of the brand and were left disappointmed when their expectations weren't met. For me, with 50/20 fibre internet, a small apartement and a NAS, it's a good option and so much more accessible than the OpenWRT based routers I've had trouble mastering.
Thanks pal. I'm about to get a fibre after like 9 years of fighting with every ISP in the area and your video is very useful to understand Dream Machine capabilities.
The UDM-SE is geared for SMB and the 'tinker/enthusiast prosumer.' If you have a house and CAT 5e/CAT6 in the walls it's an absolute no brainer. In a small/medium size apartment? It's got less utility and if you like 'set it and forget it' the UDR is probably the way to go. It's the device I would buy for my retiree mother or luddite family members so I can admin them remotely when they have issues. However, if you can hide a few RU of rackmount gear somewhere where the fan noise and LEDs won't drive you batty I would go straight for the UDM-SE. I've got three racks in my home. A 6 RU open rack in my comms cabinet (everything noisy lives there). An 8 RU rack hiding in my TV unit and a 12 RU rack for my audio production gear/fanless compute/networking which lives in my office.
Although I don't believe you can completely disable the built-in AP on the UDR, you can still have your SSIDs only broadcast from only your other APs to avoid interference. I'm running a similar setup right now and it works perfect for me.
You can totally disable the WIFI on the UDR but not directly as you have pointed out. What I do is create a WIFI network and then only assign it to the other AP's and leave the UDR unassigned which makes it think it doesn't have an SSID to broadcast so it doesn't. as far as I can tell.. This is a workaround I tested.
How do you only 4k subs? That video was so professional I thought for a second I was in an LTT video. Keep up the good work I am sure the channel will grow over time.
So basically if you have a 1gb internet connection don't go for the UDR. Damnn 😢. Was just about to pull the trigger to go all in on unifi 😣. Guess I should save up. Thx for the video. You saved me from not buying the wrong things
I finally got rid of my UDMP and went to a Firewalla Gold Plus and its been amazing. Still use the Unifi Protect Console but thats it. Firewalla has been amazing.
People are disappointed because they buy the wrong device for their needs. The udr is an excellent device fo many home users. Likeeise the dream machine Pro or SE will be wrong for many home consumers. Read specs properly and buy the right device for you in the first place dave money and be happy
I did the CCNA and CCNP many years ago during and just after college. This gear is for the most part as complex as the CISCO gear I trained on however it gives the illusion of it being accessible with its beautiful UIs. I agree with you, and I think people don’t realise just how much knowledge is required to work with the gear fully. But the beauty part is you can do a lot with the Unifi gear without knowing a lot, until something doesn’t work as expected and then you’re stuck.
Another great video Samir, nice buy for sure. I bought the UDMPro about a year ago before the SE came out but I have no need for it, my 48 port PoE has more than enough ports. I am also looking at adding an aggregation switch like yours but that will be later next year. Now you have a good excuse to get a network rack 😄
Point of note, the 2.5gbe WAN-port is plagued by a decade old problem. It will lock up if you push too much traffic through it and it will *NOT* recover until you hard reboot it (power off/power on). Worked with Ubiquiti for months to get it fixed, but to no avail. The used chipset has this problem in Linux, period. No fix was ever released for the chipset in Linux. I instead configured the WAN-port on port 8 (1gbe, instead of the 2.5gbe port 9). This has worked fine ever since I used it and the connection has been stable for months on end. Port 1-8 (1 gbe / poe+) are Annapurna (owned by Amazon) chipset ports. Port 9 (2.5gbe) is Realtek.
I recently switched to a UDM SE as well and also purchased a rack UPS. What bothers me is the fact that the UDM does not support out of the box NUT integration. The fact it has an internal hard drive is double concerning. Oh sure I could slap in a Pi as a NUT server and fudge my way through some SSH shutdown scripts but this is not right. If Ubiquiti want to be serious about their equipment especially ones that constantly perform database operations and record data to internal hard drives then lets get some type of power integration.
LOVE my SE. Upgrade from Pro to Pro SE. One of my major reason to choose Pro is I can have more than one access point easily. The management of other AP directly is worth the extra money. Also is the fact that as wifi standard improves, I can just change the AP instead of the router.
Thank you for your video, I agree with your assessment. However, be careful on relying on the 8 ports of the UDM SE. My UDM Pro has a total bandwidth of 1 GB across all 8 ports. This means that there is a definite potential to throttle your bandwidth by adding too many devices or heavy bandwidth devices to the 8 ports. If Unifi added more bandwidth to the back-plane of the 8 ports that would be my selling point to trade out my Pro for an SE. I Like the fact that the SE has POE but I am more concerned about the backplane. If anybody knows if they fixed it (added more bandwidth - not really broken) on the SE I would love to know. Almost every video I watch of a person hooking up a UDM Pro they only have one port in use and the other 7 ports empty.
Apparently the 1 gig limit is still there. For me personally it’s not an issue because I only have my APs connected to it and all my wifi devices are low bandwidth non critical. All my high bandwidth devices are actually connected to my 10 gig switch
Agree 100%, I have one Gigabit internet and after enabling threat management and VPN, It did cut my internet from 941 down to 320 to 416 tops. But I plan to downgrade the my plan to a 300 or 500mb. He is on point!
Heh, Samir. I'm doing the same as you and feel I won't need the US 24 as the SE has what I need and get the USW. In fact Id rather get the battery back up as the third component. Have you tried the d in-wall U6 yet as was going to use them as my access points in a few rooms? please reply with your set up thanks
The problem is, this machine does not have 2.5G LAN ports, given that U6 Enterprise and more access points are coming with 2.5Gbe ports, it's such a pity. Would be nice to have all 2.5Gbe WAN and LAN ports. And it's processor is kinda weak with less than 2Ghz clock speed, which can't run say several SSIDs with one SSID dedicated for traffic all go through VPN.
I wouldn’t recommend using the lan ports for high speed devices anyways. It has a 1 gig backplane. So all the lan ports combine to have a 1 gig uplink. For higher speed devices, I recommend getting a 2.5gig (or even 1 gig switch) with a 10Gig SFP+ uplink. For anyone with a semi-serious setup, they likely have all their high speed devices wired anyways (like myself) so for the wifi access points, powering off the ports on the UDM SE is more than sufficient for the low bandwidth devices.
FYI one feature that you forgot to mention for the UDM-SE is that with IDS/IPS enabled your maximum throughput is 3.5Gbps. That's the main reason I bought it. It's surprisingly hard to find routers with 1gbps or more throughput with IDS/IPS built in. And it costs almost more to get a router and separate firewall to meet that capability.
The problem with the UDM Pro / SE, is the 8 ports are limited to 1GB backplane switching, you need to use the 10Gb Uplink to a decent switch if you want to have more than 1Gb switching. There is no link aggregation and thats also because it can only do 1Gb backplane. After I put mine in, I searched and found that out. So now it’s quickly expanded from just having the UDM Pro, to now. UDM Pro, UDM 10Gb aggregator, UDM 2.5GbE, 2x U6-Pro AP’s. I’m very happy with it, just wish I knew that you can’t link aggregate or more than 1Gb switch in the UDM Pro.
Oh you mean splitting the WAN to the 8 ports. Yes your’re right. However this is no different than any other 8 port gigabit switch that doesn’t have a multi gig uplink to the router. From my perspective, I just see it as a gigabit switch with a gigabit uplink like many small switches. Of course on other switches you can mitigate by doing link aggregation but yes I see your point.
@@TechTalkwithSamir yes like any other 8 port gigabit switch without a multi gig upland, however this is not like a switch, it’s a router with a 2.5Gb port and 2x 10Gb ports. If you have 5Gb internet for example, and only use the 8 port switch, you are only going to be able to get 1Gb or 2.5Gb(higher rev) over the internet from it. When I had my work laptop, my Pc and my wife’s laptop all connected, when I was downloading at 1Gb it caused her teams call to drop, so it’s how I found out on this limitation. It was annoying, but also quickly resolved with more equipment, I do love the Ubiquiti and have got more of it to so the problem. I just wish it was more widely advertised.
@@TechTalkwithSamir Oh okay I didn't know if it was that easy or not. All the videos I see are going from the UDM to the UDR but no one explains how to switch.
I went with a UDM Pro and added a Unifi 8 port PoE switch afterwards, but hey, it works great and I love my Ubiquiti network. Never will use anything else, and certainly never will use a consumer router ever again.
Hey, thanks for this video! What do you think about UDM device. I have to do good WiFi network at home and I need to hava 1Gbit access for all of my devices including terrace and small shed on which I wanted to instal WiFI camera.
Awesome video! I was originally looking at the UDR, but then learned it can't do over 700Mbps (my home internet is over 850Mbps). I was also looking for a feature rich product with room for expansion. I really want to separate out my home network. I have a synology file server, several smart devices (smart home type devices connecting to a raspberry pi running homeassistant), and then my amazon alexa devices. Currently all on the same network, which I do not like. It'd be great to take control of everything and narrow down the access to only allow specific devices to talk to specific devices. We are a tech heavy house, multiple computers, phones, printers, gaming consoles, tablets, etc, in addition to things like a philips hue light hub. Probably close to 30 devices in total. Seems like the UDM SE is the way to go, we've been talking about adding POE cameras as well. Thanks again for this video!
Love the video. I'm in the same boat. I have been running the UDR for about 3 months. Due to it limitations I have ordered a UDM SE. I was wondering what the migration was like. Were you able to backup the UDR and restore it to the UDM pro or did you have to start from scratch. I have a missive amount of time invested in building VLAN's, SSID, firewall, Port forwards, etc, and am really hoping there is a migration path and I don't have to start over from the ground up.
Thanks for checking out the video! You may want to get an UDM-SE instead. Lately ubiquiti has been neglecting software updates for the UDM-Pro so all their latest features are only coming to the UDM-SE
I am new to Unifi ecosystem. We have several Unifi APs with DHCP hosted on ISP router which has been a limiting factor. Does UDM provide DHCP services? Can each SSID be mapped to a different L3 network with unique DHCP pool? Thanks for any feedback.
I run ubiquiti ap’s, poe switch and a cloud key, but I built my own router. It’s insanely fast and lower power. It doesn’t allow me to have all of the unifi bells and whistles but it’s cheap and under my control.
I have an eero mesh system and have been very happy with it. Do the unifi access points work the same as how eero does with making everything on the 2.4 and 5 GHz look as if it's on one network?
It might not have been the case when you recorded the video, but the UDM SE gets UnifiOS 3.x whereas the UDM Pro is still on 2.4.x, and who knows how long before it will get 3.x. Ubiquiti is not the best at communicating - nor fixing stuff. As an early UDM Pro adopter I had to double NAT through my USG3 as it had a bug that meant it would only run at ~660Mbps max using IPS over a PPPoE connection - for years. That said I still love my Unifi network, and I just upgraded to a UDM SE while my UDM Pro still has some resale value. For sure the UDM SE is way better than the UDR. Reason for my post is to point out that your advice to buy a UDM Pro if people don't need the PoE switch part is arguably no longer good.
Very good point. Ubiquiti seems to have almost abandoned the UDM pro from software perspective. Which is a shame since the hardware is almost identical!
Really informative; thank you so much! In my case, I want to keep all staff from my IPS and add a VPN Server(I prefer an OpenVPN) to remotely access a Reolinc NVR. What would you suggest?
UniFi actually doesn’t support OpenVPN natively. It only supports L2TP at the moment. But you can add a separate machine to enable open VPN (like perhaps a NAS that supports it).
@@TechTalkwithSamir I wouldn't say "at the moment" in regards to supporting anything other than L2TP. It doesn't appear there are plans to change this at any point on the UDM Pro or SE products and will most likely be a feature used to sell a new product in the future. With L2TP becoming less and less supported (Android and other products dropped support for it a year or so ago), the feature requests to Ubiquiti to enable support for anything else have been ignored since the release of the UDM Pro. While there are instructions from other users you can follow to go into the CLI and install wireguard etc to work around the limitation, if you aren't a more advanced user, or want to keep your system as default as possible, you'll have to live with being unable to VPN into your network via updated devices dropping support for L2TP. Also, throughput issues do occur on the UDM Pro even without threat management turned on as noted by many users. Some of this may be due to the backplane limitations, but there are large numbers of reports and test results on the forums and elsewhere showing the UDM Pro (may not be this way with the SE) performance causing significant speed reductions. Personally, after upgrading from a 500M to 1G connection, I saw no increase in any bandwidth to devices beyond upload. Bypassing the UDM Pro still maintained a 400M speed. Direct connect to the modem, I had 985M (yes WAN/Internet speeds etc were adjusted within UDM Pro and ports etc checked and configured). I had high hopes for my UDM Pro when I purchased it a few years ago and kept hope for quite a while. However, the fact there are still bugs that require switching to the legacy UI to fix a few years after the new UI, the throughput issues, and the inability to even update to standard VPN protocols for a prosumer router have left me more frustrated than impressed with Ubiquiti gear and is making me want to lift it all out. Thank you for the video Samir. You do a fantastic job (even when we don't agree) and I do want to compliment you on your presentation and video style. I enjoy watching and it's always a pleasure
damn this thing... I got my UDM-SE and a 8 Port 10Gbe SFP+ Switch because I read that the second SFP+ port can ONLY be WAN. I really just needed 2 LAN 10GBe to uplink to my switch upstairs that's 10GBe, and my QNAP 10Gbe NAS located in the rack!!!
Hi Shameer, thanks for the videos, I currently have a Linksys Velop MX 4000 (3 Nodes) I am facing significant issues mainly because almost all the channels of 2.4 ghz are crowded, i have around 150 Wi-Fi devices ( mostly 2.4 ghz devices) I also have lots of devices running in zigbee which also faces channel issues and channel selection on MX4000 seems to be limited, what will be your suggestion for my setup? I was thinking of going for a dream machine pro with single long range AP so that I can reduce channel interference, please let me know your thoughts? I have one 2.4 and 2 5 ghz access points
If you have congestion in the 2.4Ghz band, not sure if switching to UniFi will help that. Although in UniFi, you can fine tune the channels for each band but the 2.4Ghz is not very wide of a band so it will likely overlap with other 2.4 signals anyways.
Still not sure how it works. But I did lessen my memory usage of my UDR by adding a Pocket Switch and plugging in my wired devices to that. It went from 1.89GB to 1.71GB. and it went further down to 1.4GB memory usage by adding a Managed Switch. Funny enough, it's detected as a network device and the label it has on it is "Netgear Router".
the things i don't like about my UDR. takes a couple of minutes just to reboot the micro SD card slot instead of a USB port, fire the engineer that came up with this dumb idea. other than a couple of gripes i have. The UDR is a decent value, and is a great introduction into the ubiquity ecosystem
Hey Samir, love your content. Can you help me with this problem. I want to setup some security cameras at my business (im thinking ubiquity) with local storage of footage...that is straight forward. But, i also want to set up a way so the footage get backup'd to a nas or something in my house. How do i do that? Can ubiquity or another company provide a solution?
FWIW, having the RAM nearly fully utilized isn't necessarily a bad thing - In general, free RAM is wasted RAM, so if there's available RAM to use, a well optimized system should make use of it.
You forgot about one important detail. UDM SE has ports with just white led. UDM Pro has the normal green and orange colors which serves as a good indication for the cable negotiated speed. Thats why i would rather buy a normal poe switch + udm pro instead. White led looks ugly on server rek and won’t be much of a indicator.
Lol I’m sure that matters for some people. As you can tell from my network closet, I’m not exactly going for the “looks” haha. But yes being able to tell negotiation speed would be helpful!
It really annoys me that the UDR caps at 1 Gb ethernet. I feel like at that price, they could at least include a 2.5 WAN, even if the switch ports are 1, just to help with congestion. I would easily pay like $300 for all 2.5 ports version of the UDR, but instead I have to consider the UDM-SE + WAP, which is over 3 times the cost.
I am really disappointed with the UDR. Not capable of managing my 1Gbps ISP connection. Even with DPI/IDS/IPS OFF max throughput around 500 Mbps up/down.
Have a UDR set up for my moms house with an extra wired UAP lite on the other end of the house. Being able to easily remotely manage it and have a easy deployment with room to expand the LAN. She only has a 300mb connection so it’s perfect. I’m using pfsense on a dedicated SFF pc. But if I wasn’t/if I had to do it again and go with full UniFi I’d easily go with a UDM SE. I was under the impression it couldn’t do 10g wan.
Since it’s not a layer 3 switch, “aggregation” term is misleading. I’m only using it as a 10 gig switch for connecting my NAS devices with my main workstation to have fast transfer speeds between the devices for the large amount of data I work with while working my my videos and photos.
Fair enough :) How much of that link have you managed to saturate? @@TechTalkwithSamir Im liking that you respond too mate, I think you did a good job on your video here too, have liked and subscribed ;-)
Thanks for the support! Typically depending on which devices I transfer between, I get between 400MB/s to 800MB/s. It’s most useful when I’m ingesting my footage/photos. Especially if I have to ingest from multiple memory cards one after another.
You mentioned that one of the reasons for the switch away from udr was because you needed more Poe switches and the udr only had 2. However doesn’t the 24 port switch include 16 Poe+ ports? Or doesn’t this count because the udr only allows 2 applications at any one time?
Quick question... If I have an Asus router... Can I hook it up to the udr-se & use it JUST as a wireless access point? I know the Asus router has this option in the settings! I want to know if the ubiquity hardware supports access points other than their own access points.
I don’t think you can do that without getting into a double NAT setup. I have however used a asus router as my router and added UniFi APs as my access point in the past.
@@TechTalkwithSamir thanks for the quick reply. I mean beyond the double nat issue (which I solved before by turning my isp modem into bridge only mode)... Have you tried hooking up a router/access point (Asus) in "access point" mode & the udm-se took it and it worked as an access point to the udm-se being the main router or brains.
I have not tried that. I no longer have my ASUS router but that would definitely be interesting. I highly doubt that it would behave seamlessly because the UniFi controller will likely not see it as an AP. All your Wifi configurations will likely need to be done through the Asus router.
@@TechTalkwithSamir thank you! You didn't touch on it much in your video but... The security part of the udm-se... Referring to the traffic monitoring part, not the video surveillance. Does it actually monitor and block malicious traffic? Or monitor your traffic continuously? They say something like 3.5gbps monitoring? Sounds theoretically to be better than my Asus for monitoring.
UDR does have a touch screen? It’s just tiny and useless, anyway the original Dream Machine was brilliant, it had the exact same processor and RAM as the Dream Machine Pro, but I guess Ubiquiti didn’t like the profit margin on it, so they scrapped it, and introduced the UDR with a vastly cut down processor and RAM, and then gave it an SD card slot, and POE, but as a result it’s MUCH slower throughput when threat management is turned on compared the the Dream Machine, but the UDR fan is quieter, the UDM being in the same case but with more powerful processor sounded like a waterfall when you downloaded anything as the fan always kicked in.
I am not sure if you can do it without double NAT ing your network. Maybe someone else in the comments can answer that. I personally haven’t tried that.
@@TechTalkwithSamir Thank you ! I went for the UDM-SE all started ok, Internet quality was perfect. But I now got a notification off packet loss detected and high latency detected ! Have you come across this ? Thanks
DREAM ROUTER ONLY HAS 600Mbps through put on both WIFI ANNNND!!! ETHERNET! Man I've been installing these for so long and had no idea. Seems like Ubiqiuti got a slap on the wrist recently about not being transparent (whatever that means) about max throughput.
Hi Samir, what’s internet speed you get if IDS/IPS enabled? I have 1.5G Internet but Im getting only 540M even though my computer is connected via SFP 10G? Thanks
I’m actually working on a video with some benchmarks but in summary I have a “1gig” connection and with threat management off, I get around 1250Mbps and with threat management completely enabled, I get around 900Mbps. So definitely some drop off.
They look amazing, but: - they're big, especially for what most home users use - someone would have to do a heck of a lot of convincing to justify the price jump.
The performance of the UDM-SE and UDM-PRO may not be, what you expect. A single TCP stream is slower than 2 GByte/second here (1.6GBit without idp/ids, iperf3). If you use multiple streams, the performance is not bad. The UI is not finished yet and I had to switch to the old UI often. It reminds me of apple products: they are really nice to use and don't need much know how to use them. But they are expensive and quite restricted on functionality. I replaced my UDMP-PRO within a month of using it.
I have to stop you here. There is major software differences between the udm pro and udm se. I own both devices and one is still on version 1 of unifios while the udm se is on version 2 and even version 3 on early access. Don't buy a udm pro even at the savings. It feels like ubiquiti doesn't care about the device anymore!
I bought the UDR, and it totally sucked. Ok, not totally, but for some unknown reason, the WAN port will only work as a 100 mbps port. Contacted Ubiquiti and they were unable to solve the issue. I decided to upgrade and RMA the UDR. Will sell it when I get the new one. So I just got the UDM SE and will set it up soon. Unifi OS is great, though. I really like it. And now, with all the added functions, I should hopefully be able to get full speed.
I have the UDR and Gigabit speeds and I rarely see downloads from highspeed external servers (read as Steam) below the 940-1024 I'm rated for with Blocking turned on
Keep in mind that the 8 port "switch" or LAN ports on the UDM's (pro/SE) both are actually 9 port switches, in that the 9th 1Gbps port is what is directly connected to the CPU. This is why you can't do link aggregation on those ports. So depending on the exact use case you can have a bottleneck on those ports as well, as you only have a max of 1Gbps. Its like your 24 port switches uplink ports. Also if you have a spare port on the 8-port Link Agg switch, you can aggregate both 1Gbps links to a single 2Gbps port for higher throughput to the UDM over that 10G connection. I have a similar setup in that I come from 10G LAN port to the 32 port Aggregation switch, and from there have 2x10Gbps aggregated ports to the 24 Port POE Pro switch and 4x10Gbps to the 48 Port POE Pro switch. This allows transfers between those switches and other parts of the network to be faster. It helps remove potential bottlenecks. 🤠👍
I've already installed 2 of these devices for my clients and it's a pretty slick router. I have no complaints.
It’s definitely a great buy in my opinion!
I appreciate these videos. You have a great conversational style of presentation. Also, I appreciate the balanced presentation of the UDR. I think many users had sky-high expectations due to the reputation of the brand and were left disappointmed when their expectations weren't met. For me, with 50/20 fibre internet, a small apartement and a NAS, it's a good option and so much more accessible than the OpenWRT based routers I've had trouble mastering.
Thanks pal. I'm about to get a fibre after like 9 years of fighting with every ISP in the area and your video is very useful to understand Dream Machine capabilities.
The UDM-SE is geared for SMB and the 'tinker/enthusiast prosumer.'
If you have a house and CAT 5e/CAT6 in the walls it's an absolute no brainer. In a small/medium size apartment? It's got less utility and if you like 'set it and forget it' the UDR is probably the way to go. It's the device I would buy for my retiree mother or luddite family members so I can admin them remotely when they have issues.
However, if you can hide a few RU of rackmount gear somewhere where the fan noise and LEDs won't drive you batty I would go straight for the UDM-SE.
I've got three racks in my home. A 6 RU open rack in my comms cabinet (everything noisy lives there). An 8 RU rack hiding in my TV unit and a 12 RU rack for my audio production gear/fanless compute/networking which lives in my office.
Totally agree. The UDR also has a purpose!
Although I don't believe you can completely disable the built-in AP on the UDR, you can still have your SSIDs only broadcast from only your other APs to avoid interference. I'm running a similar setup right now and it works perfect for me.
You can totally disable the WIFI on the UDR but not directly as you have pointed out. What I do is create a WIFI network and then only assign it to the other AP's and leave the UDR unassigned which makes it think it doesn't have an SSID to broadcast so it doesn't. as far as I can tell.. This is a workaround I tested.
How do you only 4k subs? That video was so professional I thought for a second I was in an LTT video. Keep up the good work I am sure the channel will grow over time.
Thank you so much for the encouragement! Really appreciate the support.
So basically if you have a 1gb internet connection don't go for the UDR. Damnn 😢. Was just about to pull the trigger to go all in on unifi 😣. Guess I should save up. Thx for the video. You saved me from not buying the wrong things
Glad you found the video helpful.
In my testing 600mbps is roughly the max with the UDR
I finally got rid of my UDMP and went to a Firewalla Gold Plus and its been amazing. Still use the Unifi Protect Console but thats it. Firewalla has been amazing.
People are disappointed because they buy the wrong device for their needs. The udr is an excellent device fo many home users. Likeeise the dream machine Pro or SE will be wrong for many home consumers. Read specs properly and buy the right device for you in the first place dave money and be happy
I did the CCNA and CCNP many years ago during and just after college.
This gear is for the most part as complex as the CISCO gear I trained on however it gives the illusion of it being accessible with its beautiful UIs.
I agree with you, and I think people don’t realise just how much knowledge is required to work with the gear fully.
But the beauty part is you can do a lot with the Unifi gear without knowing a lot, until something doesn’t work as expected and then you’re stuck.
Another great video Samir, nice buy for sure. I bought the UDMPro about a year ago before the SE came out but I have no need for it, my 48 port PoE has more than enough ports. I am also looking at adding an aggregation switch like yours but that will be later next year. Now you have a good excuse to get a network rack 😄
Haha yup! Definitely in my list of things to upgrade in future videos!
@@TechTalkwithSamir Look forward to see your video.
You definitely need a rack for your UDM hardware :) Looking forward to see a video of you upgrading your current homelab.
For sure! Definitely been brainstorming how I can clean up the closet. Can’t wait to share when I have things sorted out.
Point of note, the 2.5gbe WAN-port is plagued by a decade old problem. It will lock up if you push too much traffic through it and it will *NOT* recover until you hard reboot it (power off/power on). Worked with Ubiquiti for months to get it fixed, but to no avail. The used chipset has this problem in Linux, period. No fix was ever released for the chipset in Linux. I instead configured the WAN-port on port 8 (1gbe, instead of the 2.5gbe port 9). This has worked fine ever since I used it and the connection has been stable for months on end. Port 1-8 (1 gbe / poe+) are Annapurna (owned by Amazon) chipset ports. Port 9 (2.5gbe) is Realtek.
is there a thread to this issue?
I would like more information on this also
I recently switched to a UDM SE as well and also purchased a rack UPS. What bothers me is the fact that the UDM does not support out of the box NUT integration. The fact it has an internal hard drive is double concerning. Oh sure I could slap in a Pi as a NUT server and fudge my way through some SSH shutdown scripts but this is not right. If Ubiquiti want to be serious about their equipment especially ones that constantly perform database operations and record data to internal hard drives then lets get some type of power integration.
LOVE my SE. Upgrade from Pro to Pro SE. One of my major reason to choose Pro is I can have more than one access point easily. The management of other AP directly is worth the extra money. Also is the fact that as wifi standard improves, I can just change the AP instead of the router.
Thank you for your video, I agree with your assessment. However, be careful on relying on the 8 ports of the UDM SE. My UDM Pro has a total bandwidth of 1 GB across all 8 ports. This means that there is a definite potential to throttle your bandwidth by adding too many devices or heavy bandwidth devices to the 8 ports. If Unifi added more bandwidth to the back-plane of the 8 ports that would be my selling point to trade out my Pro for an SE. I Like the fact that the SE has POE but I am more concerned about the backplane. If anybody knows if they fixed it (added more bandwidth - not really broken) on the SE I would love to know. Almost every video I watch of a person hooking up a UDM Pro they only have one port in use and the other 7 ports empty.
Apparently the 1 gig limit is still there. For me personally it’s not an issue because I only have my APs connected to it and all my wifi devices are low bandwidth non critical. All my high bandwidth devices are actually connected to my 10 gig switch
just ordered my unify udmse and can't wait to get it.
Agree 100%, I have one Gigabit internet and after enabling threat management and VPN, It did cut my internet from 941 down to 320 to 416 tops. But I plan to downgrade the my plan to a 300 or 500mb. He is on point!
Great explanation of the reasons behind change and your setup!
Heh, Samir. I'm doing the same as you and feel I won't need the US 24 as the SE has what I need and get the USW. In fact Id rather get the battery back up as the third component. Have you tried the d in-wall U6 yet as was going to use them as my access points in a few rooms? please reply with your set up thanks
The problem is, this machine does not have 2.5G LAN ports, given that U6 Enterprise and more access points are coming with 2.5Gbe ports, it's such a pity. Would be nice to have all 2.5Gbe WAN and LAN ports. And it's processor is kinda weak with less than 2Ghz clock speed, which can't run say several SSIDs with one SSID dedicated for traffic all go through VPN.
I wouldn’t recommend using the lan ports for high speed devices anyways. It has a 1 gig backplane. So all the lan ports combine to have a 1 gig uplink. For higher speed devices, I recommend getting a 2.5gig (or even 1 gig switch) with a 10Gig SFP+ uplink. For anyone with a semi-serious setup, they likely have all their high speed devices wired anyways (like myself) so for the wifi access points, powering off the ports on the UDM SE is more than sufficient for the low bandwidth devices.
FYI one feature that you forgot to mention for the UDM-SE is that with IDS/IPS enabled your maximum throughput is 3.5Gbps. That's the main reason I bought it. It's surprisingly hard to find routers with 1gbps or more throughput with IDS/IPS built in. And it costs almost more to get a router and separate firewall to meet that capability.
Excellent point! Thanks for checking out the video.
The Pro also has 3.5Gbps throughput.
Ubiquiti Cloud Gateway Ultra is now out and has 1gbit with ids/ips
The problem with the UDM Pro / SE, is the 8 ports are limited to 1GB backplane switching, you need to use the 10Gb Uplink to a decent switch if you want to have more than 1Gb switching. There is no link aggregation and thats also because it can only do 1Gb backplane. After I put mine in, I searched and found that out.
So now it’s quickly expanded from just having the UDM Pro, to now. UDM Pro, UDM 10Gb aggregator, UDM 2.5GbE, 2x U6-Pro AP’s. I’m very happy with it, just wish I knew that you can’t link aggregate or more than 1Gb switch in the UDM Pro.
That’s actually not true. There was confusion about that initially. But the 8 ports are capable of 1 gig simultaneously.
Oh you mean splitting the WAN to the 8 ports. Yes your’re right. However this is no different than any other 8 port gigabit switch that doesn’t have a multi gig uplink to the router. From my perspective, I just see it as a gigabit switch with a gigabit uplink like many small switches. Of course on other switches you can mitigate by doing link aggregation but yes I see your point.
@@TechTalkwithSamir yes like any other 8 port gigabit switch without a multi gig upland, however this is not like a switch, it’s a router with a 2.5Gb port and 2x 10Gb ports. If you have 5Gb internet for example, and only use the 8 port switch, you are only going to be able to get 1Gb or 2.5Gb(higher rev) over the internet from it. When I had my work laptop, my Pc and my wife’s laptop all connected, when I was downloading at 1Gb it caused her teams call to drop, so it’s how I found out on this limitation. It was annoying, but also quickly resolved with more equipment, I do love the Ubiquiti and have got more of it to so the problem. I just wish it was more widely advertised.
How did you switch from the UDR to the UDM SE? Did you start from scratch or did you keep all your existing configurations and put it on the SE?
Great question. I just made a backup and restored it onto my UDM-SE
@@TechTalkwithSamir Oh okay I didn't know if it was that easy or not. All the videos I see are going from the UDM to the UDR but no one explains how to switch.
I went with a UDM Pro and added a Unifi 8 port PoE switch afterwards, but hey, it works great and I love my Ubiquiti network. Never will use anything else, and certainly never will use a consumer router ever again.
Hey, thanks for this video! What do you think about UDM device. I have to do good WiFi network at home and I need to hava 1Gbit access for all of my devices including terrace and small shed on which I wanted to instal WiFI camera.
Thanks for answering my questions! Subscribed!
Thank you for the support ☺️
When you say UDR, are you talking about Dream Machine (desktop) or Dream Machine Pro (rack) comparing threat management performance?
They actually have a new model “UniFi Dream Router”. It’s similar in form factor to the dream machine. That’s the one I’m referring to.
Awesome video! I was originally looking at the UDR, but then learned it can't do over 700Mbps (my home internet is over 850Mbps). I was also looking for a feature rich product with room for expansion. I really want to separate out my home network. I have a synology file server, several smart devices (smart home type devices connecting to a raspberry pi running homeassistant), and then my amazon alexa devices. Currently all on the same network, which I do not like. It'd be great to take control of everything and narrow down the access to only allow specific devices to talk to specific devices. We are a tech heavy house, multiple computers, phones, printers, gaming consoles, tablets, etc, in addition to things like a philips hue light hub. Probably close to 30 devices in total. Seems like the UDM SE is the way to go, we've been talking about adding POE cameras as well.
Thanks again for this video!
“Let’s just pretend it’s in here” 😂 you’re funny. Thanks for the chuckle.
Love the video. I'm in the same boat. I have been running the UDR for about 3 months. Due to it limitations I have ordered a UDM SE. I was wondering what the migration was like. Were you able to backup the UDR and restore it to the UDM pro or did you have to start from scratch. I have a missive amount of time invested in building VLAN's, SSID, firewall, Port forwards, etc, and am really hoping there is a migration path and I don't have to start over from the ground up.
It was actually fairly seamless I did make backup and restore into the UDM-SE. I did not have to rebuild everything.
@@TechTalkwithSamir awesome thanks for the quick reply. I'm looking forward to it.
Cheers for such a Frank review - helps me making a purchasing mistake and save up for the UDM Pro as I want protection…
Thanks for checking out the video! You may want to get an UDM-SE instead. Lately ubiquiti has been neglecting software updates for the UDM-Pro so all their latest features are only coming to the UDM-SE
@@TechTalkwithSamir Just ordered the SE today... Eeek!
Awesome! I’m sure you won’t regret it!
I am new to Unifi ecosystem. We have several Unifi APs with DHCP hosted on ISP router which has been a limiting factor. Does UDM provide DHCP services? Can each SSID be mapped to a different L3 network with unique DHCP pool? Thanks for any feedback.
I run ubiquiti ap’s, poe switch and a cloud key, but I built my own router. It’s insanely fast and lower power. It doesn’t allow me to have all of the unifi bells and whistles but it’s cheap and under my control.
I have an eero mesh system and have been very happy with it. Do the unifi access points work the same as how eero does with making everything on the 2.4 and 5 GHz look as if it's on one network?
Yup. They have one SSID for both the 2.4 and 5ghz band. So it’s seamless to the users.
@@TechTalkwithSamir thanks!
It might not have been the case when you recorded the video, but the UDM SE gets UnifiOS 3.x whereas the UDM Pro is still on 2.4.x, and who knows how long before it will get 3.x. Ubiquiti is not the best at communicating - nor fixing stuff. As an early UDM Pro adopter I had to double NAT through my USG3 as it had a bug that meant it would only run at ~660Mbps max using IPS over a PPPoE connection - for years. That said I still love my Unifi network, and I just upgraded to a UDM SE while my UDM Pro still has some resale value. For sure the UDM SE is way better than the UDR.
Reason for my post is to point out that your advice to buy a UDM Pro if people don't need the PoE switch part is arguably no longer good.
Very good point. Ubiquiti seems to have almost abandoned the UDM pro from software perspective. Which is a shame since the hardware is almost identical!
Really informative; thank you so much!
In my case, I want to keep all staff from my IPS and add a VPN Server(I prefer an OpenVPN) to remotely access a Reolinc NVR. What would you suggest?
UniFi actually doesn’t support OpenVPN natively. It only supports L2TP at the moment. But you can add a separate machine to enable open VPN (like perhaps a NAS that supports it).
@@TechTalkwithSamir I wouldn't say "at the moment" in regards to supporting anything other than L2TP. It doesn't appear there are plans to change this at any point on the UDM Pro or SE products and will most likely be a feature used to sell a new product in the future. With L2TP becoming less and less supported (Android and other products dropped support for it a year or so ago), the feature requests to Ubiquiti to enable support for anything else have been ignored since the release of the UDM Pro. While there are instructions from other users you can follow to go into the CLI and install wireguard etc to work around the limitation, if you aren't a more advanced user, or want to keep your system as default as possible, you'll have to live with being unable to VPN into your network via updated devices dropping support for L2TP.
Also, throughput issues do occur on the UDM Pro even without threat management turned on as noted by many users. Some of this may be due to the backplane limitations, but there are large numbers of reports and test results on the forums and elsewhere showing the UDM Pro (may not be this way with the SE) performance causing significant speed reductions. Personally, after upgrading from a 500M to 1G connection, I saw no increase in any bandwidth to devices beyond upload. Bypassing the UDM Pro still maintained a 400M speed. Direct connect to the modem, I had 985M (yes WAN/Internet speeds etc were adjusted within UDM Pro and ports etc checked and configured).
I had high hopes for my UDM Pro when I purchased it a few years ago and kept hope for quite a while. However, the fact there are still bugs that require switching to the legacy UI to fix a few years after the new UI, the throughput issues, and the inability to even update to standard VPN protocols for a prosumer router have left me more frustrated than impressed with Ubiquiti gear and is making me want to lift it all out.
Thank you for the video Samir. You do a fantastic job (even when we don't agree) and I do want to compliment you on your presentation and video style. I enjoy watching and it's always a pleasure
Great video mate. Try slowing down just a little and have a second break in between sentances.
Thanks for the suggestion. Will keep that in mind for future videos.
How did you migrate from DM to DMSE? Was it a simple backup and restore?
I did the same now I have a ton of ubiquiti gear. To include three talk phones. And more.
That’s usually how it works. They hook you into their ecosystem lol
Thanks, finally a clear video on the differences.
Once you delve into ubiquity the cost quickly adds up.
My equipment.
Udm pro, usw 24 poe, aggregation switch, usw flex ×2, usw lite 8 poe ×2 usw 5 port ×2, G4 bullet ×2, Flood light ×2, Ge flex ×8, Uap-acm ×2, Uap-acm pro, U6 lite, U6 LR, U6 pro, Ubiquity usw flex utility box, OCD 2U blank, two ubiquity 24 patch panels and lastly two ubiquity surge protectors.
It sure does lol. Better networking, lighter wallet haha
damn this thing... I got my UDM-SE and a 8 Port 10Gbe SFP+ Switch because I read that the second SFP+ port can ONLY be WAN. I really just needed 2 LAN 10GBe to uplink to my switch upstairs that's 10GBe, and my QNAP 10Gbe NAS located in the rack!!!
Lol. Initially they didn’t allow you to change the WAN/LAN setting. I think they enabled it with a later update.
What's messy about having a PoE injector?
Hi Shameer, thanks for the videos, I currently have a Linksys Velop MX 4000 (3 Nodes) I am facing significant issues mainly because almost all the channels of 2.4 ghz are crowded, i have around 150 Wi-Fi devices ( mostly 2.4 ghz devices) I also have lots of devices running in zigbee which also faces channel issues and channel selection on MX4000 seems to be limited, what will be your suggestion for my setup? I was thinking of going for a dream machine pro with single long range AP so that I can reduce channel interference, please let me know your thoughts? I have one 2.4 and 2 5 ghz access points
If you have congestion in the 2.4Ghz band, not sure if switching to UniFi will help that. Although in UniFi, you can fine tune the channels for each band but the 2.4Ghz is not very wide of a band so it will likely overlap with other 2.4 signals anyways.
@@TechTalkwithSamir I was thinking of reducing at least two channels used by the mesh nodes
Still not sure how it works. But I did lessen my memory usage of my UDR by adding a Pocket Switch and plugging in my wired devices to that. It went from 1.89GB to 1.71GB.
and it went further down to 1.4GB memory usage by adding a Managed Switch.
Funny enough, it's detected as a network device and the label it has on it is "Netgear Router".
the things i don't like about my UDR.
takes a couple of minutes just to reboot
the micro SD card slot instead of a USB port, fire the engineer that came up with this dumb idea.
other than a couple of gripes i have. The UDR is a decent value, and is a great introduction into the ubiquity ecosystem
Did he just plug in two fiber optic LC connectors without cleaning?
I just got my udr today, I’ll be setting it up later today and i’m looking at upgrading to to the udm pro
Go with the SE. The Pro version software is lagging and can't handle the new cameras.
Totally agree.
Hey Samir, love your content. Can you help me with this problem. I want to setup some security cameras at my business (im thinking ubiquity) with local storage of footage...that is straight forward. But, i also want to set up a way so the footage get backup'd to a nas or something in my house. How do i do that? Can ubiquity or another company provide a solution?
FWIW, having the RAM nearly fully utilized isn't necessarily a bad thing - In general, free RAM is wasted RAM, so if there's available RAM to use, a well optimized system should make use of it.
You forgot about one important detail. UDM SE has ports with just white led. UDM Pro has the normal green and orange colors which serves as a good indication for the cable negotiated speed. Thats why i would rather buy a normal poe switch + udm pro instead. White led looks ugly on server rek and won’t be much of a indicator.
Lol I’m sure that matters for some people. As you can tell from my network closet, I’m not exactly going for the “looks” haha. But yes being able to tell negotiation speed would be helpful!
Another BIG difference between the UDM Pro & UDM SE is the OS version. However, Ubiquiti is finally trying to get the Pro caught up.
That is a major difference. Especially after UniFi OS 3.0 update on the UDM SE
It really annoys me that the UDR caps at 1 Gb ethernet. I feel like at that price, they could at least include a 2.5 WAN, even if the switch ports are 1, just to help with congestion. I would easily pay like $300 for all 2.5 ports version of the UDR, but instead I have to consider the UDM-SE + WAP, which is over 3 times the cost.
I really like this video. The deal breaker for me in the 700mbps WAN limitation
I am really disappointed with the UDR. Not capable of managing my 1Gbps ISP connection. Even with DPI/IDS/IPS OFF max throughput around 500 Mbps up/down.
Yea. It definitely feels underpowered!
Ya, it’s just a little to underpowered.
Have a UDR set up for my moms house with an extra wired UAP lite on the other end of the house. Being able to easily remotely manage it and have a easy deployment with room to expand the LAN. She only has a 300mb connection so it’s perfect.
I’m using pfsense on a dedicated SFF pc. But if I wasn’t/if I had to do it again and go with full UniFi I’d easily go with a UDM SE. I was under the impression it couldn’t do 10g wan.
The UDR is perfect for that type of scenario!
This seems weird, it is usually reported that it the typical max throughput is about 800Mbps. Do you have any other applications running in the UDR?
Question, why do you have an aggregation switch for such a small setup?
Since it’s not a layer 3 switch, “aggregation” term is misleading. I’m only using it as a 10 gig switch for connecting my NAS devices with my main workstation to have fast transfer speeds between the devices for the large amount of data I work with while working my my videos and photos.
Fair enough :) How much of that link have you managed to saturate? @@TechTalkwithSamir Im liking that you respond too mate, I think you did a good job on your video here too, have liked and subscribed ;-)
Thanks for the support!
Typically depending on which devices I transfer between, I get between 400MB/s to 800MB/s. It’s most useful when I’m ingesting my footage/photos. Especially if I have to ingest from multiple memory cards one after another.
You mentioned that one of the reasons for the switch away from udr was because you needed more Poe switches and the udr only had 2. However doesn’t the 24 port switch include 16 Poe+ ports? Or doesn’t this count because the udr only allows 2 applications at any one time?
The 24 port switch I have is the non-Poe version.
Can you connect a non-POE device to a POE port?
You sure can!
Quick question... If I have an Asus router... Can I hook it up to the udr-se & use it JUST as a wireless access point? I know the Asus router has this option in the settings! I want to know if the ubiquity hardware supports access points other than their own access points.
I don’t think you can do that without getting into a double NAT setup. I have however used a asus router as my router and added UniFi APs as my access point in the past.
@@TechTalkwithSamir thanks for the quick reply. I mean beyond the double nat issue (which I solved before by turning my isp modem into bridge only mode)... Have you tried hooking up a router/access point (Asus) in "access point" mode & the udm-se took it and it worked as an access point to the udm-se being the main router or brains.
I have not tried that. I no longer have my ASUS router but that would definitely be interesting. I highly doubt that it would behave seamlessly because the UniFi controller will likely not see it as an AP. All your Wifi configurations will likely need to be done through the Asus router.
@@TechTalkwithSamir thank you! You didn't touch on it much in your video but... The security part of the udm-se... Referring to the traffic monitoring part, not the video surveillance. Does it actually monitor and block malicious traffic? Or monitor your traffic continuously? They say something like 3.5gbps monitoring?
Sounds theoretically to be better than my Asus for monitoring.
It has both intrusion detection and prevention. I have both enabled. So it can also block along with monitoring.
UDR does have a touch screen? It’s just tiny and useless, anyway the original Dream Machine was brilliant, it had the exact same processor and RAM as the Dream Machine Pro, but I guess Ubiquiti didn’t like the profit margin on it, so they scrapped it, and introduced the UDR with a vastly cut down processor and RAM, and then gave it an SD card slot, and POE, but as a result it’s MUCH slower throughput when threat management is turned on compared the the Dream Machine, but the UDR fan is quieter, the UDM being in the same case but with more powerful processor sounded like a waterfall when you downloaded anything as the fan always kicked in.
NO, the UDR doesn't have a touchscreen
@@gutwallst6645 Yes it does, you can swipe it to show different things.
If I get a DMP SE can i turn my UDR in just an AP with eth ports?
I am not sure if you can do it without double NAT ing your network. Maybe someone else in the comments can answer that. I personally haven’t tried that.
Why am I sensing Skynet-about-to-happen vibes anytime I watch a Unifi product video?
Great video :) Can you make a tutorial configurations DreamMachine ? With several networks, IoT WiFi, Guest WiFi...thanks :)
Thanks for checking out the video. I’ll keep that in mind for a future video!
Great idea. Kindly do. Support +1
I would love this video too as I’m about to set up my very first home network!
Now I have to make a video tutorial haha. Will be a new style of video for me but looking forward to it.
is it possible to turn off the LEDs on a unifi AP?
Yup you sure can from the controller.
Samir did you keep the UDR as an access port with the UDM SE? Or just using it as a backup ?
i said keep it you will always have room to learn new things and you have enough ports to make all rooms in the house wire :)
For sure. Except that I’ll have to run the wires first. My house didn’t come pre-wired… had to run all cables myself :(
@@TechTalkwithSamir we believe on you you can do it :))) also will be more content for the tech channel :)
Haha. That’s true!
Does it support dual WAN load balancing and failover?
It has failover. I don’t believe it has load balancing. I haven’t explored dual lan setups personally for my setup.
Hi Great Video..
My broadband speed is 500mbs, Will this machine work with my network speed ?
Thanks
The UDM-SE will work for sure! If you’re looking for the UDR, you might be at the limits if you turn on intrusion detection and prevention.
@@TechTalkwithSamir Thanks for the quick reply ! So to future proof go for the UDM-SE ?
Thanks
Definitely going to be more powerful. But if you don’t need the power over Ethernet ports, go with the UDM-Pro.
@@TechTalkwithSamir Thank you !
I went for the UDM-SE all started ok, Internet quality was perfect.
But I now got a notification off packet loss detected and high latency detected !
Have you come across this ?
Thanks
I have come across that but that was when my ISP was having issues. It fixed itself after AT&T got their stuff straightened.
DREAM ROUTER ONLY HAS 600Mbps through put on both WIFI ANNNND!!! ETHERNET! Man I've been installing these for so long and had no idea. Seems like Ubiqiuti got a slap on the wrist recently about not being transparent (whatever that means) about max throughput.
Hi Samir, what’s internet speed you get if IDS/IPS enabled? I have 1.5G Internet but Im getting only 540M even though my computer is connected via SFP 10G? Thanks
However on Mikrotik RB5009 I get 1.6G and 1G if firewall is enabled. But can get same speed with UDM-SE
I’m actually working on a video with some benchmarks but in summary I have a “1gig” connection and with threat management off, I get around 1250Mbps and with threat management completely enabled, I get around 900Mbps. So definitely some drop off.
Ha, I am doing the same thing at basically the same time. I got a free ISP upgrade from 300/300 to 1000/1000 and the UDR just does not cut it anymore.
Yup. UDR is definitely underpowered for anyone with gigabit internet.
@@TechTalkwithSamir I got it for $79 in EA so I have zero complaints.
Oh man. At $79 it’s a no brainer. Even at $200 it’s a great deal compared to everything else in their lineup.
Overall a very informative and well done video.
Thank you for checking out the video!
They look amazing, but:
- they're big, especially for what most home users use
- someone would have to do a heck of a lot of convincing to justify the price jump.
For sure! For most people it’s not practical for home use.
The performance of the UDM-SE and UDM-PRO may not be, what you expect. A single TCP stream is slower than 2 GByte/second here (1.6GBit without idp/ids, iperf3). If you use multiple streams, the performance is not bad. The UI is not finished yet and I had to switch to the old UI often. It reminds me of apple products: they are really nice to use and don't need much know how to use them. But they are expensive and quite restricted on functionality. I replaced my UDMP-PRO within a month of using it.
There’s definitely room for improvement.
What did you switch it out for?
@@kelvindiaz8409 I switched to a Fujitsu FUTRO S930 Thin Client with MCX4121A-ACAT Mellanox ConnectX-4 Lx 25GbE SFP28 and Mikrotik Routeros.
@@markusmaeder1388 Do you mind describing your network? From ISP tp WAN to Access point
Hi Will you sell the Unifi dream router?
Still undecided at the moment. In case I need to do tests in the future for any firmware updates.
I have to stop you here. There is major software differences between the udm pro and udm se. I own both devices and one is still on version 1 of unifios while the udm se is on version 2 and even version 3 on early access. Don't buy a udm pro even at the savings. It feels like ubiquiti doesn't care about the device anymore!
You’re right! I should have mentioned the software differences. Ubiquiti definitely has more incentive trying to sell the UDM-SE
Amazing. Explained me a lot ! Thanks, man, just speak slower next time :) I'm joking, I can adjust the video speed :)
Haha! I’ll keep that in mind for future videos.
lol, let me know when you ditch that POS for pfSense. Been there, done that.
Lol I wouldn’t rule it out!
Why pfSense. Do you mind recommending a hardware for it?
So it looks like no reasons to upgrade my DM 😂
Next Video: am getting rid of my UDM
Lol not sure about next video but I’m sure eventually that will be a video 😂
A network closet - looks like an awfully big room to call it a closet.
Lol it’s basically a walk in closet for clothes and stuff that also happens to house my networking gear in one corner.
@@TechTalkwithSamirI take it you're not married. lol
Haha! Lets just say my wife doesn’t always approve of my usage of closet space.
I would never spend so much money just to get POE ports. You can get a POE switch for hundreds of dollars less.
You broke the car
You earned a subscriber ^.^
Use a switch for ip cams man.
I use an NVR that has POE ports.
at 9:56 it was the worst setup i've ever seen.
So you’re saying I have room to improve? 😂. Stay tuned for a future video where I clean things up 😊
you havent seen my closet and the mess my wiring guys left me. I sent a photo to 2 installers and they said no thanks.
I did the exact same thing lol
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I bought the UDR, and it totally sucked. Ok, not totally, but for some unknown reason, the WAN port will only work as a 100 mbps port. Contacted Ubiquiti and they were unable to solve the issue. I decided to upgrade and RMA the UDR. Will sell it when I get the new one. So I just got the UDM SE and will set it up soon. Unifi OS is great, though. I really like it. And now, with all the added functions, I should hopefully be able to get full speed.
I have the UDR and Gigabit speeds and I rarely see downloads from highspeed external servers (read as Steam) below the 940-1024 I'm rated for with Blocking turned on
Yes 600 is roughly the max. I ended up upgrading my internet so I was able to test on my end as well.
❤ this video is great! Ya know I have a different problem now. My house isn’t wired with Ethernet so I’m gonna have exposed cable everywhere. 🥲🥲🥲
Yea. I have that same issue within my network closet. I need to do a project to clean that up lol