Lessons in Magecraft 13 - Reality Marbles
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- Reality Marbles, such as Unlimited Blade Works, are both fascinating and spectacular. I hope you enjoy as I elaborate on what they are and how they work while providing examples from the Fate, Type Moon and Nasuverse.
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I can just imagine the Mages Association, if they ever actually get to these videos, being like, "HOW THE HELL DOES THIS MAN KNOW THIS MUCH!?"
probably through the same way the American government knows what it does in strange fake. They're not as badass as they make themselves out to be.
@@goldenbrigain7031 No, like, this would be knowledge from both adjacent _and_ parallel worlds. That is actually insane.
Right lmao
@@thomasthecoolkid7228 He probably has lost pages from the Darkhold, its does hold knowledge fro before creation,
The would probably think he’s a certain vampire with access to the kaleidoscope.
I like to think that EMIYA's unlimited blade works came with the theme song
Same
Wait,, it's not?
I like how there are quite a lot different examples of reality marbles and users we see despite it being a super rarity.
welcome i assume this is your first time with anime.
Most of them are not gained while alive but given to servants as NPs as a manifestation of their legend, Shirou always had his though, thats why its rare, but due to the sheer amount of servants some of them are bound to have it.
It`s extremely rare among human beings. If I`m not mistaken, Shirou became the 7th person in history, who deployed Reality Marble as a human (more or less). Others examples belongs to Dead Apostles and Heroic Spirits, which is completely different story.
@@BekindBekbek even knowing that, we can't forget that he wouldn't have been able to manifest it without Rin's magic supply backing him up. So we know it's a huge undertaking even for someone who holds a Reality Marble
@@justacatwithasadface2692 In case of something so rare and difficult like Reality Marble it`s only technical details, I guess. Being able to perform it is more important.
When I first saw domain expansion in Jujutsu Kaisen, I immediately taught of a reality marble.
Yeah, JJK really gave me nasuverse vibes when I watched it.
Exactly
It helps with fact that Gege is a huge Type Moon fan
I like how Shirou basically sucked so hard at commonly practiced magecraft he literally had to accomplish something that was damn near the opposite.
Not just 'sucked', he was literally incapable of learning anything else due to him being an incarnation of Sword. On the flip side, being an incarnation pretty much guaranteed that he would have something as powerful as a Reality Marble, as incarnations are able to do mysteries within their specialization with ease that would leave even first-rate magi crying their eyeballs out at the unfairness of their power and skill.
@@Nekogami04 You are partly correct. Sakura was *born* an incarnation, but her elemental affinity changed to water after she was given to the Matous. However, her origin and sorcery trait, Hollow, still remains. You can check it here: typemoon.fandom.com/wiki/Sakura_Matou
@@Nekogami04 Yes, but that's only in HF route that she gets her powers back. In Fate and UBW routes she doesn't become the Black Grail.
@@ivanruzic2592 Not really. He learned how to reinforce too. Learning other stuff is just harder.
Also I wouldn't pay the wiki too much mind. It's kinda wrong a lot
@@seankrkovich2869 Actually, Reinforcement was the very first mystery he was able to use, only later did he learn about his talent at Tracing.
Who cares if Shirou only has one spell when said spell is making his own pocket dimension. One spell and he still flexes on most of the Clock Tower.
There is someone in the Clock Tower that can flex on Shirou. And nothing Shirou has can actually work on him, the master of the second magic, Zeltrich(Sp?). Anything that Shirou uses would be bypassed by Zel going into the Kaidescope and avoiding the damage, even Unlimited Blade Works wouldn't trap Zel.
@@trisertricordoh2127 To be fair he is an actual Magician. He can take on most if not all of the Clocktower.
@@micahjones1451 Yup, which is why I said that. Out of everyone in the Clocktower Zel, is the only mage that Shirou could never beat as he could no sell most if not all of Shirou's arsonal.
They'd try to dissect him if the knew though, best keep it on the DL
@@trisertricordoh2127 Something tells me Zel would love tutoring Shirou, should the chance appear.
Shirou: Barely considered average for a mage
Also Shirou: Has one of the highest class of magic
He's a specialist. A mage that's really good at one thing but sucks at all others. They're actually known to progress much further than generalised mages.
That's right. By exchanging pretty much all his potential for traditional magecraft, he's SOOO GOOD at what he CAN do, that it completely outclasses what other, more generalized mages
He's worse than average, isn't he?
@@spikegilfer1997 When it comes to more typical magecraft like the type that rin and others use, yes. But when it comes to his unique brand of magecraft, (reinforcement, alteration, structural grasp and tracing) there's no one better than him.
@@spikegilfer1997 on a scale from 0 to 100. Ciel is at 100, Rin is inbetween 70 and 100 and Shirou is at 10.
However that for magus, since shirou is a spellcaster it dosn't really matter.
-I am the bone of my sword
-Steel is my body and fire is my blood
-I have created over a thousand blades
-Unknown to death, nor known to life
-Have withstood pain to create many weapons
-Yet those hands will never hold anything
-So as i pray
UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS!!!!!
-I am the bone of my sword
-Steel is my body and fire is my blood
-I have created over a thousand blades
-Unaware of loss, nor aware of gain
-Have withstood pain to create weapons
-Waiting for one's arrival, I have no regrets
-My whole life has been
-UNLIMITED BLADE WORKS
I am the number of my bank account
Fate is my flesh and anime my blood
I have created many adaptations
Unaware of taxes, nor aware of fines
Have withstood audits to make money
Still the government will make me pay
So as I pray
UNLIMITED BUDGET WORKS
Literally "I reject your reality and substitute my own."
More servants have reality marbles than I thought.
That's because it used to be a super special trick that only Shirou/Archer and Iskandar had. And then F/GO happened...
Well, out of all the servants, only few have a reality marble so in sense, it's still something special.
@@contown731 Before FGO though, Fate Extra showcased about Nero implement her own Reality Marble as her NP, "Aestus Domus Aurea", a recreation of her beloved theatre.
Some Servants in Moon Cell can create their own Reality Marble since they can overwritten a section of the digital space.
@@contown731 to be fair, Apocrypha and Extra preceeded FGO, and both have Servants with Reality Marbles
@@rogueascendant6611 it's not a Reality Marble. It's more like Kiritsugu's Time Alter. It's close enough, but not quite. Nero was even able to summon Aestus Domus Area inside Unlimited Blade Works
Reality Marbles feel a lot like the Metaverse in Persona 5, worlds based on people's cognition. What other parallels can you make between Fate and other works?
In my country kid show , there a character who have ability to manipulate atom like turning a stick to sword or Turning boulder to ice .
You should have talked about how Nero's Aestus Domus Aurea. While it isn't exactly a Reality Marble, it's very similar.
What about origin and the persona itself
I'm not sure if everybody agrees, but I feel like the labyrinths, made by witches in Puella Magi Madoka Magica, are very similar to Reality Marbles.
Your mention of the reality marble that manifests rumors is textbook P2
How to get Reality marble
1. Live in Fuyuki and have red hair and have a name Shirou
2. Fight off a blonde arrogant ancient hero
3. Get Reality Marble
4. Profit.
Who here has experienced deja vu before, like you see something in your dream only to then see what happened in the dream play out in real life?
how the hell did you post this 5 months ago?
@@gayfroggo He is a time traveler.
@@gayfroggo isn't this video just 2 weeks old? How did he manage that?
@@zaki7583 the video got taken down a while back, now it’s back up
@@Tam-Ezrac ahhhh
If Shirou's, Emiya's, and Miyu Shirou showed to drive home the compare and contrast that would've been a good example of same reality marbles that are slightly different
When you are doing research for the video on homunculi, be sure to fully research the history of the Einzberns, because one of the reasons they're homunculus are so exceptional is that they're functionally copies of the Rhinemaidens from Germanic mythology. Though vastly different in terms of power and scale homunculus are alot like True Ancestors in that they are essentially incarnated nature spiritsgiven a human form rather than just an artificial human. And much like Arcuaid from Tsukihime, Illya is able to draw power and virtually unlimited magical energy from nature.
Although they are technically more nature Spirits then they are artificial humans, the creation of homunculi is similar enough to the idea of cloning that it's mystery has greatly decreased in the modern era leaving very few families of Magi able to come anywhere near the Einzberns in terms of skill. Modern science simply knows too much about the human body for homunculus, puppets and golems to be of any practical use to the vast majority of Magi.
Thanks for the tip.
wraiths or servants would make a good video
Why is this 6 months ago wtf
@@justaspider6451 i dont fucking know
I knew that Reality Marbles were used by quite a bit of characters from the nasuverse, but I never realised that Shirou was one of the ONLY humans with one
Though technically didn't Shirou only gain the knowledge of reality marbles from his alternative reality self.
Doesn't that create a self destructive loop ? Since Shirou needs his Counter Guardian self to gain Unlimited Blades Work. And he needs Unlimited Blades Work to gain his greatest victory.
So at the same time Shirou is one of the only humans to have a reality marble. And just another servant with one.
Multi dimensional theory and the possibility of multiple selves existing gives me a headache. Especially when you throw in the fact your other selves become an integral part of what becomes your trademark abilities.
Though I get a kick that Shirou is a copycat to the end.
@@clothar23 Shirou was gonna have the Reality Marble with Archer’s influence or not. It’s said that without any outside influence, it would take Shirou at least 10-20 years to discover and master his reality marble. All Archer did in both the UBW and HF routes was speed up that process, by a lot. Instead of ten years of finding, establishing, forming and manifesting his reality marble, it took UBW Shirou only, at max, a week to do the same because of his confrontation with Archer
@@connormccarthy6741 True enough but I would argue Archer's influence changed the fundamental nature of Shirou's marble as it forced Shirou to reflect on his desire to be a hero.
After all in their fight in UBW we see Archer's marble to be a dark and clouded over place. With many of the blades showing some form of neglect or heavy use. Where as Shirou's marble is a much more sunlight and clean place.
So I would argue Shirou's marble as it stands is entirely due to Archer's influence. Without it Shirou and by extension Unlimited Blades Works would have just been Heroic Spirit Emiya 2.0 .
@@clothar23 I would then argue in response that the reason Archer’s reality marble is the way it is is purely due to his experiences as CG and Shirou’s reality marble is what it used to look like.
@@joshs5577 We could argue that and I mostly agree but for one thing. Archer Emiya was already in a darkened mindset when he agreed to become a Counter Guardian.
When I was a kid I watched carnival phantasm, I really enjoyed it despite not getting the references. I specifically remember seeing a character with dark skin, white hair, and a dope ass fit. Some years pass and I get into fighting games(BB, GG, UNI, Timken, etc.), and eventually I come across melty blood. Its rad as hell if you've never played it, but considering the video I'm sure we all have heard of it. Through out the years I hear about a series called Fate/Stay Night, I never gave it the time until my boss at work told me about it. So 2016 hits and I'm at gamestop picking up my PS4, the guy at the register says "Hey you like Dynasty Warriors, you should try this out." As he holds out "Fate Extella: The Umbral Star". He's a good friend so he gives me a discount, "$15 why not" I say to him. When I get home I start it up, and I'm kinda diggin it, but not quite what I was looking for, that is until I see a character called "Nameless". Couldn't for the life of me figure out why he looked familiar. So jump to Jan 2020 and now here I am watching UBW. Loved the hell out of it. I decide to learn more about fate/ the nasu verse, thats when I came across some melty blood characters and I got hella confused. Some more digging and I learned about the other Type-Moon works. Finally ending with me going back and rewatching Carnival Phantasm, and seeing that dark skin, white hair, dope ass fit dude, while remembering Shiro's words.
My whole life has been,
Unlimited Blade Works.
Niiice! It's fun how that discovery works.
This is a novel-worthy saga
@@luciferamigodobairro6169 is watching fgo 1st order then proceeding an entire life of searching for that one anime with the big ass shield girl and edgy dark sword lady only to realize what I'm actually watching was a small branch to the great tree that is fate a worthy story?
Can't help but think that Fujimaru Ristuka has the potential to get a Reality Marble after all they've experienced in the Singularities and Lostbelts. There is no way they won't lose their _Marbles_ by the time we face the Foreign God. A Chaldea based RM w/ all their Heroic Spirits is broken but fitting.
@@jkosch Hehehehe I can see it, and a Cultured reference it was.
For regular human obtaining RM is almost equal to insanity in a some way, since it beyond understanding of humans. With his life... I guess he has good chances.
@@BekindBekbek Indeed. However, just because a human is insane doesn't mean they're incompetent.
An ever changing RM with 7 pillars of light in it's edges and 1 giant ring of light above
@@anadaere6861 The screensaver potential of that alone would be awesome.
So if Atem from Yu-Gi-Oh was a Servant, would the Millinium Puzzle be considered a Reality Marble?
You mean the maze? Yes it would be his inner world if he changes the real world with his labyrinth. It reflects how his mind is a mess and he has to find his way through it. Meanwhile Yugi has his inner world be a normal room as he isn't as confused as atem is. So they would have two reality marbles
But this is probably a joke post
@@ivanbluecool No I was serious. Thanks for the reply 👍🏾
@@epsyblue7714 oh well I hope I answered it well.
Yu-Gi-Oh's soul rooms are basically reality marbles
@ivanbluecool I mean everyone has a "inner world" in fate. Reality marbles are just when the inner world becomes so distorted and unatural that you can can manifest it outside of your mind and overwrite the world. So potentially Atem would have a maze reality Marble while Yugi who has a normal room as an inner world wouldn't.
Next topic is Homunculus? I look forward to the analysis on Sieg and how he broke Fate forever.
I wonder if Reality Marbles are what inspired Jujutsu Kaisen's Domain Expansions, the concepts are too similar.
Pocket dimensions are a popular thing
@@thirdplanet4471 but what about personal pocket dimensions? type-moon Reality Marble and JJK Domain expansion is a reflection of the user nature, power and self
Domain expansion and RM are different tho
It is
Gege is a huge Type Moon fan
0:21 Damn you Zouken and Tokiomi for ruining a waifu that thick.
For those who keep blaming Grand Order for the excessive Servants with Reality Marbles it is actually Fate/Extra that began the trend. That game had the Serial Phantasm, Nursery Rhyme, BB, King Protea (designed but not implemented), among other things like Nero’s Golden Theater (a bounded field almost to the level of a Reality Marble). Then Zero gave us Iskandar’s Reality Marble. And Apocrypha, in 2012, gave us Jeanne with her La Pucelle, and Avicebron’s golem nonsense.
So yes, Servants were already using them left and right before Grand Order was conceived. And that’s without touching the stuff from the Tsukihime series (All Dead Apostle Ancestors can affect reality in some way, and the Brunestud sisters have their Phantasm crap).
Dead apostles has Marble Phantasm, which allows you affect aspects of existing world (with allowing from World itself), not creating their own. Well, some of them can use Reality Marble too. It`s easier for them to obtain it, since RM requires is kinda inhuman perseption of the world.
@@BekindBekbek Isn’t that exclusive of True Ancestors? Fairly certain the two characters with mentioned examples of one are the Brunestud sisters (Altrouge and Arcueid).
@@lenleon3699 Well, I can't remember mention about others too, but I guess Elementals can do it too. Or should I say that it's a privilege for those who represents Gaia forces?
@@BekindBekbek most dead apostles have reality marbles not marble phantasms.
@@nabi7701 you mean "most" compared to number of Marble Phantasm users? Probably. Even then I guess it's pretty rare thing, or otherwise it wouldn't be so valuable
Me, who knows jack-shit about fate:
"I like your funny words magic man."
Also, a reality marble gets you a sealing designation, that's the main reason why it is avoid by magus. Reality marbles come from the 'Alien Common Sense' possessed by Daemons, which is where the technique originates from. True daemons have the ability to swallow a whole continet with a reality marble, the Church's burial agency hunts them down for such reasons.
So basically...
Stands but as Worlds?
Yup!
you could even deploy them as a guardian entinty like a stand if you got good enough at it
its how nobu has her flaming skeleton manifest.
@@reedman1337 *note Nobu did not have giant skeleton stand in life
>stands
I'm 12 years old and I've only watched like 2 anime. XD
I really wanted to understand reality marbles, this video helped me a lot.
I wonder if Reality Marbels were the inspiration for Gege Akutami's Domain Expansion in Jujutsu Kaisen.
Little fact about me i have starting jujutsu kaisen and there was a technic who looks like to a reality marble and it's call *Domain Expansion*
Apocrypha would have been a lot cooler if Waver came in on Christmas with a resummoned Iskandar and they launched Ionian on top of Semiramis' castle.
Kerry's reality marble is super interesting in how he uses it and shirous with ubw I like a lot especially with the ubw ending showing how his inner world is a lot better by the end.
Also for the people in back. Two reality marbles clashing the stronger one wins and if they are balanced they are warping in half to battle to see who can be surpreme
keep doing what u do man i love it! and ur narrator voice is so in tone !!!
I simply love this kind of videos. Please continue making more of thissssssssss
I wonder the reverse side of the world is a reality marble
It is not. As I understand the subject, there are layers of reality on the earth, called textures. These are like parallel worlds which cannot be accessed by normal magecraft, requiring true magic or similarly vast powers such as some noble phantasms.
Imagine if a True Magician, a Heaven's Feel user, for example, was able to materialize a reality marble. Could they potentially nullify the rules of the World?
I feel it would just be another tool in their arsenal.
I don't think the world will let that happen.
@@otakudaikun Perhaps if it was Kaleidoscope?
They could already do so without a reality marble. The entire point of the First Holy Grail War was to use the Third True Magic to make everyone immortal and lifting them into eternal spiritual based beings.
@@joshs5577
Considering that the True Magician who gave Shiki Tonho his enchanted glasses will cause the Heat Death of the Universe because she used her True Magic to postpone her friends death, the implications I gather from this is that True Magic and True Magicians are still subject to the Laws of the World as they exist in the reality of the World. In a Reality Marble, where one imposes their own reality upon the World, it is theoretically possible to circumvent the Laws of the World and Reality.
Ah reality marbles. Quite the fascinating lesson
Probably would have been good to note that outside of Shirou, there's supposedly only 6 humans recorded in the Association's history to ever achieve a fully manifested RM to underscore just how rare it is.
Where has that been stated?
If I remember correctly this is pure fanon made by either Gabriel Blessing or Marcus Galen Sands
I think Fate's Reality Marbles and Yu Yu Hakusho's Territories were inspirations for Jujutsu Kaisen's domain expansion
The reality Marble are always OP to me since Unlimited Blade Work
I would like to add that Nero's NP domus aurea, it's a reality marble. Born from her vision of her golden theater and her affinity for magecraft
Apparently it's very similar to a RM but slightly different. Gotta love Nasu lol
I'm interested in knowing how many heroic spirits would normally have Reality marbles without being heroic spirits,like obviously iskander wasn't a magus but he did still have a Reality marble
I think almost every heroic spirit has reality marbles if there legend is strong and recognize by people and the great example of this would be alexander the great his in real world his legend is how he almost conquer of all the middle east I think and it manifest as a reality marbles.
@@Markcus003 that actually would make alot of sense like king arthur was supposed to be the perfect king(even though her kingdom fell) maybe she would have a kingdom as her Reality marble.
@@Recon-601 about king Arthur his legend is about his sword (Excalibur) and becoming a king so pretty much his the legend himself unlike alexander where it his deeds that make him a legend.
I would think that a few more servants have it, even in a skill or NP one of the one I can think might apply, would something like sasaki's tsubame geashi (as he was a wraith, a spirit who happened to be summoned because of the sword strike, making it his origin)
This does bring up the question, what happens when two Reality marbles are used at the same time?
Your pc crashes lol. I'm not entirely sure.
The weaker one gets overpowered and disappears
i read about this on the wiki i believe. aparently the one with the higher magical output wins. if theyre equal then both reality marbles are essentially created at once and connected to each other at a point. you could have one foot in one reality marble and another foot in the other marble. theyre individual powers and effects do not reach to the other marble.
@@wintercrowe8707 Who's that in your profile pic?
@@otakudaikun its kinda weird how having two reality marbles works in the moon cell as well since the whole moon cell is one giant reality marble with smaller reality marbles inside yet servants using their own wont mess it up
Murder death kill by Rin
Imagine Ivan the ABSOLUTE UNIT's Oprichnik being a variation of the 8th Dead Apostle Ancestor's RM Parade
Great job as always. Reality Marbles have always intrigued me.
Where's the Bone of the sword, Daikun?
Ooh reality marbles, very interesting
Marbles.
Nice, these typ of videos help me a lot to understand how the nasuverse works
Hey Dai, why didn't you talk about Kirutsugu's reality marble, I was really looking forward to hearing more about it. But the video is great as usual.
kiritsugu doesnt have a reality marble though
@@gayfroggo He did, the one in his body that he used to perform Time Accel.
@@ibukunanjorin9054 Avalon isn't his Reality Marble though, and Avalon isn't even a Reality marble it's a conceptual weapon
@@gayfroggo I'm not talking about Avalon, Kirutsugu's magic involved manipulating time through a mini reality marble in his body.
@@ibukunanjorin9054 Exactly it is contained entirely within his own body. And is incapable of being projected outwards. It does not create a bounded field that is a reflection of either his legend or inner self. Thus it does not qualify as a reality marble.
Dude... the VA work is dope. Hint of Vic and Steve
Where can I read about the various dead apostles and Arcueid's past more in detali? I read only Tsukihime
Honestly I'm not as familiar with them either. I mainly know them from Tsukihime and Melty Blood, but even then there's not a TON of detail. One guy who's way more familiar with that side of Type Moon is Manpig.
He's on my discord server and he also has his own.
ua-cam.com/channels/lr3LvkB0Rqhxo5MK1n_gXA.html
I forgot, did you already talk about Marble Phantasms?
No
gege: write that down write the down!
Thank you for this topic being discussed. I always curious about limitations and strength of this particular Noble Phantasm.
8:12 holy shit
Another great video Dai! Looking forward to your video on Homunculi!
What about EMIYA Alter Jeanne d'Arc Alter
Emiya alter is basically like Kerry's reality marble as it's inside a certain object or body with his bullet and shooting it out to kill.
Kerry's reality marble is inside his body which affects him directly
Jalter I don't remember but same just a inner world basically
Video topic: Parallel universes
Marbles hurt people
Kiritsugu: "No, I hurt me kiddo"
I got into Kingdom Hearts and saw the Keyblade Graveyard and could not stop myself
I am the bone of my Keyblade.
Steel is my body and fire is my blood.
I have created over a thousand Keyblades.
Unaware of loss,
Nor aware of gain.
Withstood pain to create weapons, waiting for one’s arrival.
I have no regrets. This is the only path.
My whole life was Unlimited Keyblade Works!
People who have mystic eyes certain ones can destroy reality marbles like death perception tohnos from the tsukihime anime and ryougi shiki from kara no kyoukai not much is known about arcueid or suzaka gozen or medusas or the full extent so you're left to speculate I'm curious about wallachias night would that classify as a reality marble from melty blood manga wouldn't scherazard be dangerous if she can rewrite a world also true magic has limits so it's a bit limited in what it can do
I've read from some old forums that say that reality marbles are forbidden because a human mage that possess one have had to experience a very deep and scarring trauma to obtain it. Shirou for example, had to become the sole survivor from the aftermath of the fourth holy grail war. That's why most reality marbles are depicted as deadly weapons when deployed. Servants are just records of a person in the past sent as a spirit in the present time. So it's normal for them to cast a reality marble as long as it coincide with their legend. But if a living human mage were to cast it, one could only imagine the great pains that person had to endure to acquire such a power. Also if memory serves me right, there are canonically 5 mages in the nasuverse history who had reality marbles on them. Though I don't really remember their names.
I'm not saying these things are fact though, I'm only sharing what I found back in the day. Still a bit hazy in a few info regarding this little tidbit. Awesome video btw.
Shirou isn't the sole survivor of the great fire. We see many people survive it and it's only Shirou being lucky that Kerry took him in so he wasn't made a Mana battery for Gilgamesh as kirie took all the other kids into the basement.
Also Original story would have had the girl Shirou let die be proto mashu and hate him for leaving her to die so no shirou wasn't the sole survivor it's more so his special place in getting Avalon and understanding swords better than other weapons
Clock tower wanted Shirou to join but limit him but he turned it down as the sealing of his ubw would limit him as the magus could kill him more easy so he left after the 3 years of learning to not give them that chance so executors like bazzet and kirie or in canon ciel wouldn't hunt him down.
But to break it down. Reality marbles are simply the person's inner world made manifest into the real world as thier conviction is that strong seeing emiya's inner world show how he is in life being cloudy and empty with swords as that's all he has left while Shirou is a more clear world as his mind isn't as cloudy as emiya since he found his resolve which is also why his chant is different than Archer's.
Ishkander shows his inner world have his warriors since they gave him the lead and followed him all the way which reflects ishkander in how his reality marble works
If you have more questions you can see tsukuhime or knk they explain more on reality marbles or mahoyo.
@@ivanbluecool like I said I'm not saying that what I said above was what really happened. I'm just sharing a little tidbit I found back then. The nasuverse wasn't really as in depth as it is right now and most discussions and forums were just clumps of Kinoko Nasu's interviews. So grounds of it weren't really reliable. Still, you do have to admit that as dark as it sounds, the idea of a mage craft being forbidden just because it correlates to a person's trauma is kinda cool.
@@LoliLover36669 old forums are a mess with information and even reddit in 2020 still brings up wrong info.
But yeah reality marbles are just someone's inner most life made into reality with Mana with emiyas world being cloudy like his resolve and with gears showing his machine mind while Shirou is not cloudy and clear as his resolve shows while the ubw anime goes further showing his inner world is pretty and green with broken gears showing the machine is gone and most importantly Rin to add to the fact he isn't alone anymore.
Ishkander isn't his dark side more so his dream and army who all gave thier lives to him hence why he can summon them since he leads them.
I doubt medb or Nero(tsukuhime) are trauma based. It's basically just your dreams or life in the real world.
@@ivanbluecool Gotta ask though. Would reality marbles have a connection to a person's origin? Since from the few videos I've seen it's already said many times that Shirou's origin are blades which is why most of his creations are swords. Makes me curious if like someone's origin was time they'd be able to create a reality marble where they can control time there however they please. Though I guess there'd still be some rules to limit it's usage
@@LoliLover36669 connection to the persons inner world is basically how they lived thier life and the reality marble is just a reflection of that. Shirou was good with swords as Avalon was within him but it's the best thing he can understand hence why it's ubw or unlimited blade works.
Ishkander is his army which was what he did in life to keep going to reach okeaneas.
It's just how the person is in life that affects it.
Same as bounded fields. Shirous is nice and open while Rin's at her home is closed off and wants to one in but when you are in you can't leave which shows how Rin is in life as well.
Would you be able to do a video about puppets and puppet body's cuz I haven't been able to find anything myself
Read knk if you want more detail on puppets as heavens feel needed to ret con itself for the ending to use one.
If you mean homuculus then the einzberg would be the better topic to research as they are dolls basically doing what they need to do and every magus who uses dolls or homuculus in the fate verse compare themselves to the einzberg creations.
Examples are touko. Irisviel. Rani in extra and apoc yddrislial family.
@@ivanbluecool Do you mean the KnK light novel or wiki
@@wintercrowe8707 the movie has some information on dolls when touko makes her move if you want to learn more. Fate doesn't go into it much aside the einzberg story.
It's basically a doll that when a soul goes into it like touko or Shirou it takes the form of the person's shape.
It would be best to check each area for more information
@@ivanbluecool thanks
@@wintercrowe8707 no problem. If you have any more questions just ask and I'll direct you to the proper place to learn about it.
Hey Dai is it possible to make a video on lord El-Meloi case files since there is a anime out for a while now and possibly background for where the story leads to
It’s a little harder to get into but I hope to.
Wouldn't Achilles' Akhilleus Kosmos also count? Or does it being a divine construct mean it can't count as something formed by Achilles himself?
No, since the "World" of Akhilleus Kosmos is in the shield, not with Achilles.
"Water, Fire, Air, and Dirt. F&@cking marbles, how do they work?"
jujutsu kaisen domain expansion
I wonder if anyone will try to use a reality marble to create a shortcut to the Root. Perhaps one that gets so obsessed with it that they are crazy even by magus standards.
I expected to see ORT’s Crystal Valley here too
Wow there we way more servants with reality-marbles than I thought
Reality Marbles are like Super Saiyans.... At first it was supposed to be so rare, that Irisviel was like "impossible!!" when she saw Ionian Hitairoi, but then we see a lot of them, and learn that characters from previous Type moon stories had them like Tatari 😅
If you think about it, Satsuki has the potential to be super OP with that RM considering most things in the Nasuverse are either made up of Mana or heavily dependent on it.
On the subject of Reality Marbles what would happen if the Second Magic, Third Magic or Fifth Magic were used inside of one? i imagine the Second would allow the user to leave especially if they know how to use it to travel
This is unfounded but I'd like to think true magic supersedes a reality marble.
Considering True Magic is from the root i wouldn't be surprised i'm curious how the Jewelled Sword would manage against ORT or the Alien God we know it can be used to battle a Type but it pushed Zelretch so far he can't do it again
Doesn’t Archibald describe Kiritsugu’s time alter as a reality marble, or am I misremembering?
It’s similar but no cigar
I think it's a Bounded Field.
The direct translation of Reality Marble is Innate Bounded Field so technically yes in the sense that both Bounded Field and Reality Marble have similar names in Japanese. It makes sense since a Reality Marble is a bounded field that exists innately (naturally) within a person
Hey dai since a reality marbles are a manifestation of users mind then do all mages are capable of using one. Also if you would have a reality marbles what do you think it would be.
In theory, yes, in practice, not as common. It takes a pretty strong connection to one's mental landscape to have one.
Not all mages are capable manifesting their own Reality Marbles.
This trait is considered the rarest among rarest.
This power takes a lot of mental strength, traumas and exceptional different oversight towards reality.
Servants that can conjured Reality Marble are not always like Shirou who manifested his own due to trauma. Iskandar aspect is his towards determination that seized upon conquest, Nero to aesthetic to the highest form of art.
I can imagine someone trying to fight shirou in the clocktower and shirou pulling out UBW and almost killing them.
I'll always think that should this series exist in the nasuverse, mages would be panicking while El Melloi II is just "There's my lesson for today"
Wait would Ahkilleius Cosmos count as a reality marble.
One would think but I've seen it classified as a bounded field.
Would a Magus with multiple personalities have multiple reality marbles or would their reality marble be a mess of multiple inner worlds duck-taped together?
That's a fascinating idea. For a mage to actually have one is pretty damn rare, so it could be possible that only one of those personalities has one. I think that's grounds for getting creative.
Why was there no mention of Nero Claudius' reality marble Aestus Domus Aurea: Golden Theater of the Flamboyant?
Must've slipped my mind. Don't know how tho.
It's nothing actually a reality marble, although the methods are similar it's not a manifestation of her inner world.it's place on top of the world instead of covering it
There are so many examples of specific reality marbles and bounded fields in the Nasuverse, that mentioning each and every one of them would probably have made the video too long (not that I would have minded).
Neros "Np" (its technically not an actual np its a sword technique like Fake Assassin of Stay nights) is not a reality marble its more of a bound field that boost her parameters for a little bit
More please!!! Class is in session!
I want a reality marble similar to UBW, but also be able to have the Gate of Babylon that way, I HAVE all the weapon's and can copy and edit them how I please, that way, I can make weapon's and noble phantasm's as I please for specific situation's, though, unlike Shiro, I wouldn't use the marble on reality and settle for only using it similar to Gilgamesh, that is, unless push comes to shove
Well I mean the only way to have gob is to have access to all of gilgamesh's treasures which is highly unlikely
@@okita_souji_alter unlikely, but not impossible
@@okita_souji_alter At the end of the day the Gate of Babylon isn't that impressive. The weapons contained within it are what gives it any credence as an ability.
So in theory amassing a collection of powerful weapons and finding a way to conveniently carry them is all that is necessary .
Sure finding or creating equals to what is in Gilgamesh's treasury might be a tall order. But it was done once so it can be done twice.
@@clothar23 I mean if you actually think about it seems pretty broken. He has the originals of what the noble phantasms are based on he basically has all the originals of the weapons most heroic spirits have besides divine constructs like karma's spear or excalibur all he has to do is find the right weapon to counter a heroic spirit since its probably in his vault
@@LoneWolf20213 I mean how would one go about finding them all he scattered them across the world there could be millions hell even more
can you activate your NB reality marble on active one like rider doing his on ubw
It would be ishkander overtaking emiyas inner world if his is stronger as it's a manifestation of the person's inner world into reality.
If emiya is stronger then ishkander can't bring his out but if ishkander is stronger he would cancel emiya's. If both tie them it's split down the middle.
@@ivanbluecool We actually see a good example of this in UBW. With Heroic Spirt Emiya versus Shirou. The landscape of Unlimited Blades Works splits down the middle to reveal both Archer's and Shirou's inner selves.
Zoomers call it domain expansion these days
Otaku do you think that you will be able to do videos on all masters in Fate GO ?
Possibly. I think this series works better focusing on the types of magecraft rather than specific mages though.
@@otakudaikun i guess so but you'll never know unless you try right ? Btw great video good work.
Also its just that between you and me (and the other people that read this comment) I'm writing a Fate and I'm looking for information on Ophelia Phamrsolone and idk why i can't find anything on her it's probably that I'm not looking where I'm supposed to but idk. I already finished the prologue and it's going great and ur videos have been a great help with stuff i didn't know.
Well to make sure that I understand the last videos, something like Altera’s Photon Ray or Rama’s Brahmastra, (Karna’s Vasavi Shaki maybe?) is the full strength is the full power of a weapon. A Bounded Field exists in the world, like Waver’s Unreturning Formation, Asterios’s Chaos Labyrinth, Mash’s Lord Camelot or Skadi’s Gate of Sky. And a Reality Marble is something like Jeanne Alters’s Np, Drake’s Golden Wild Hunt, but also Edmond Dantes’s Np. What about Heracles’s Nine Live, King Hassan’s Azrael and Brndildr’s Brynhild Romantia?
Nine lives refers to a technique and a weapon. The sword axe. Azrael is also a technique, based on KH pure faith and willingness to his duty as one who dolls out death. They are both normal noble phantasms being a weapon/technique that is what made their heroic tale and is proof they were a hero.
So is Asterios’s NP a Bounded Field or Reality Marble? In-game it seems to be the latter, but in Okeanos it looks to be the former.
So, what would happen if two marbles were cast simultaneously would one override the other?
I knew someone would ask.
Basic answer the stronger one would win and overtake the weaker one as it's the persons inner world so it would go to one world again.
If two reality marbles are equal then they will simply split the world down the line and then it will be a clash of both worlds to see who can overcome the other as the marble is the person's inner world made manifest
Higher concept and mistery wins.
Fucking Emiya Shirou is so fucking broken and insane that his vision of the world is warped enough to manifest a reality marble, think on that.
Is the "taboo" better or worse than a sealing designation?
They could kill you over a taboo, but a sealing designation is a bit more complex.
I wonder how mages would react to domain expansion from jujutsu kaisen
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You forgot Kiritsugu Emiya
He creates a reality marble inside his own body
Friendly reminder that Satsuki's reality marble is fucking broken againts magi, elementals, servants and everything that depends on mana, prana, od, etc.
Soooooooo. Domain Expansion
Why is Nero's and Ozymandias NP not categorised as reality marble?
The source for this type of pocket dimension magic is the planetary arcane weave, ley line, in short Shirou hacks his mana,
For a mage to cast a bounded field, he or she can she just use the Mana in the mage body itself, as it's usually a small scale spell depending on the ability and the quality of the magical circuits if the mage. But when it comes to bounded fields, I am pretty sure just using Mana stored in the mage body won't be enough..you would need to be close to a leyline or have some external Mana source to generate and sustain the bounded field..am I right sensei?
Depends on the size of the marble and field. A leyline definitely helps.
I don’t need magecraft. My built for my imagination and existence is more than enough. “Not wanting” is the sealing itself to prevent itself for manipulating fates, time and creation.
Is Okita Souji's Mumyou Sandanzuki a reality marble as well?
So in yu-gi-oh terms a bounded field is a generic field while a reality marble is an archetype specific field spell