Bachmann LMS Jinty | Unboxing & Review
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- My review of the Bachmann LMS Class 3F Jinty tank engine
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0:00 Introduction
3:05 Unboxing
6:08 History
7:08 Detail
12:30 Mechanism
15:36 Performance
21:15 Haulage Testing
25:30 Ratings
29:10 Conclusion - Авто та транспорт
On an unrelated topic: You've finally convinced me, Sam. I just bought my first OO gauge locomotive and wagons. A Hornby Peckett, and an Oxford warwell. I also took a gamble on a few Dapol wagons. Hopefully they don't derail like their egg vans.
Me too! I bought smokey Joe, some buildings and 3 wagons.
The Hornby Peckett, 0-4-0 or 0-6-0?
@@gilbertporter4992 0-4-0. The W4 "Niclausse"
The next 0-4-0 I'm looking for is, ironically, a "Porter" locomotive 🤣
@@minicraft3256 are you going to upgrade the motor to one of those "Torque Tuned Motors?" Then old Smokey Joe would live up to his name!
@Kyle Trummel now i think i won't, because im new to modeling, but maybe later.
£69.
"Pretty nice discount"
I see what you did there.
haha ayy!! ;D
Well, well, well....
Jintys are some of my favourite engines. Fun fact: A Jinty appeared in The Railway series in books Percy takes the plunge and the eight famous engines. He was literally called Jinty. I’ve asked for a Jinty for my birthday. Fingers crossed I get it 🤞
In the eight famous engines isn’t there also a pug who arrives with jinty who is also named pug? Hope you get your jinty!
hope u get your jinty and happy birthday for then
@@benforster6254 Thanks my friend. All the best
@@DanielsModels that’s correct they and Percy met at the workshop where Percy was built or worked or something like that. Thanks all the best
@cameron smillie yep especially at the watercress line
The jintys are one of my favourite locomotives. I just love their small size.
Keep up the great reviews!
I must say that I have seen other model rail reviewers, not to denigrate them in any way, but your reviews are so honest and comprehensive. A pleasure to watch Sam. Keep up the good work mate.
Great video as always Sam!
Just keep up the good work.
I bought this model back in October last year at the Lakeside and Haverthwaite Railway whilst on holiday, it quickly became my favourite tank engine in my possession as well as in general due to excellent running at all speeds, the cab detail also really looks great now I've picked it out. Just need to work out how to fit a crew easily
That's very good to hear! They are surprisingly good runners given what's inside!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Had one of these for about 7 years and it has given me faultless operation for the entiraty of that time. I'm very happy with it
Good to know they last! I just saw that Bachmann are rereleasing them today, so I’m thinking of picking one up, hence why I’m revisiting this!
Great model Sam! These are my favorite LMS tank engines! I rank them as the most successful LMS tank engines! It's great and healthy to have 9 preserved examples and so far only one is left to be restored!
I've always wanted one of these. They are truly beautiful engines
They are lovely - we could just really use an all new one! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
One of my favorites. Thanks for sharing
I recently purchased one of these Class 3F “Jinty” in black with the LMS & numbered 7341. I did have an old Hornby version, but the Bachmann model captures the real locomotive in many ways, in my opinion that is, looked great hauling a freight train
Just in time for Independence Day!
Thanks from your American followers for keeping up the awesome videos!
Fabulous review as always 😁
I brought one of these for nearer £100 but sent it back after noticing the detail was very lacking and didn't feel it was worth the money I paid. Having seen yours I'm glad I sent it back and waiting for someone to bring out a super detailed version. Great review as always Sam
Have 2 of the original batch and just added a third, they all still run pretty well and ive had no problems with them.
This will go a long way to keeping me from being bored while isolating Sam
Glad to hear that Harry - hope isolation goes okay for you mate :(
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi good and indepth review as always! Good mine second hand and not running so going to revamp the detail with Brassmasters pack and high level kits chassis
I have been very much wanting to pre-order the new Bachmann LMS 5XP 'Jubilee' however after continuing to see reviews of shortcomings with other Bachmann offerings - like this Bachmann LMS Class 3F Jinty - I am left very hesitant to commit to purchase. I look forward to your review on one of the Jubilees when they do eventually come out and will likely decide post-review. I noticed when you did your review of the Hornby Merchant Navy 'East Asiatic Company' that a sudden popularity uptick on Hattons website occurred and it has now subsequently sold out. Manufacturers need to take note that your reviews are having immediate market impact and need to competitively respond with their upcoming product offerings. Keep up the good work Sam!
I love the Bachman jinty. Great job on the review
Thank you so much! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Do you ever hear anything back from the manufactures or reps? Would like to hear their responses. Please keep up your reviews!!!’
I love that one in the middle track. Smashing color.
Yeah me too - still a fan of that one! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Wonder if Bachmann have heard the expression ‘Round pegs don’t fit into square holes’ ?
haha obviously not! xD
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I've got the older jinty and it's been weathered and is a superb model.
I've still got my Lima Jinty which I've detailed with lamps and new couplings and hand rails. It still runs well after 40.years
Oh wow! Never had one of those - great to hear yours still runs so well! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
That is awesome
Great video.
If you ever try 00-9 or N gauge, the Bachmann Baldwin is a fantastic model. Same sort of age as this, produced back around 2017/18. Full metal bearings, coreless motor, full painted cab etc etc..
And can be purchased fitted with sound!
Hi Sam, I have a Bachmann Jinty it was a birthday present over 10 years ago it came with a midland set including 2 coaches, it has been ran for many years but now it runs very poorly and I believe this is due to a poor mechanism and lack of bearings.
Great video and honest as always.
Cheers Dan :)
I have a couple of Bachmann Jintys with one of them being s Hunslet built one that is 47445 William Pepper & Sons Ltd in the orange livery it wore when it was sold off to industry. It also survived into preservation at the Midland Railway centre
Very nice!! Sounds lovely mate!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The minty is my favorite engine . Good video as always sam
haha glad to hear that - thank you!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I just got a Bachman class 03 diesel shunter (my first Bachman), amazing detail, but the windows popped inside when I tried to pick it up between my thumb and finger. Managed to strip it down and apply glue where it should have been and repair it.
Ahh sorry to hear that - doesn't sound too good! I've not tried their latest 03 yet, does sound good though!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
What a lovely train a jinty is i love tank engines keep up the amazing work I've watched alot of your videos thank Have a lovely day Sam bye From SpeedyBlueTankEngine
Amazing Sam, I Love Jinty!
He Appear In The RWS Book "The Eight Famous Engines" In The Stories "Percy Takes The Plunge" And "The Fat Controller's Engines" 😃😃
That's very cool - I don't think I knew about that!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam - I never knew a Jinty in the '50s that ever had anything other than plain black cab detail, Bachmann do have that right. You did, of course, have the option of ex-works through greasy right through to soot-covered filthy. This is an authentic ex-works livery. Just thank goodness you don't have to welt the brake valve to free it from new paint!
Ooh a Jinty I'd love one but can't find a decent priced one as all I want is some form of decent jinty. I love the jinty but yet again BACMANN'S MECHANISMS. great review as ever. Ooh 2 3d printed tanks on the Hornby one, look great!!
Another very honest review Sam, other than that, I have little to say about these large manufactures still pushing out locos, that still have these same issues year after year...Bob
Hi Sam, I have one of these so can actually comment on my experiences!
Picked mine up for £50 (second hand, but barely used) off Ebay. Mine is the LMS model, from the early 2000s (so no NEM pockets on mine). Can't fault much of your review but will comment that:
- The triangular mount style couplings can be a bit annoying to fit (one of mine broke on installation), it looks like they have since been upgraded with NEM pockets.
- My earlier version does seem to crawl a bit better then yours, not sure if the motor has changed or you've just got a poorer motor in yours.
Thanks very much for sharing! Definitely much more like it for £50 I think. Yes the NEMs are good to see now, but very interesting that yours should be a better crawler!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Hi Sam, Fantastic review , looked great in the box and when it first came out, but as with most of the time things go down hill, you look forward to getting a new engine and it turns out to be (rubbish) makes your heart sink, l love the Jintys , (but not at that price) All the Best Brian 🤗
I LOVE JINTYS GREAT VIDEO SAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Spot on as always. Bachmann keep re packaging old engines in new boxes but the price has doubled. I collect modern for Hillshot Train Layout and I have 43 Hornby Steam engines. I have no Bachmann steam engines and I cannot see me getting one this year.
Jinties are very nice engines. Model looks Extremely nice when Running. Great model and review. 👍
Thanks Caley - it sure does look lovely when running! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
i really like the jinty one of my favourites, I have a tri ang one and its still in great condition but the detail isn't great lol.
Thank you
Yeah me too - and the tri-angs are such classic models!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam you should start a series where subscribers can design their own rolling stock and send the design to you to print out and review in a video like Major Hardware's Fan Showdown.
FINALLY YOU DID IT and I got my 3 £40 each not second hand new out the box
haha finally!! xD
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Awesome video today Sam beautiful locomotive I would go for a hornby one
I have a Jinty myself it's an excellent shunter and back engine as well.
Very glad to hear that - they're very handy things! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
My first loco was the Hornby SDJR jinty and i love it and id probably stick with it
Great Job
It is showing it’s age, and it’s RRP is high. But when this model came out 15 / 20 years ago, it was a huge step forward in detail.
Let’s not forget the Hornby Jinty looks nothing like a Jinty.
Oh sure - the detail would have been great when it first released... and it'd still be acceptable today if the RRP matched!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
The Jinty: Basically Thomas the Tank Engine if Reginald Payne hadn't made him an E2 in the first rendition of the book illustrations and confused everyone.
For context, Awdry wanted Thomas to be a J50, but Payne used a southern railway engine for reference instead, yet he ironically made certain features like the funnel and boiler more Jinty-like than E2-like.
I would have gone for a shortened Jinty with a few small changes.
Nice review mate, I especially like jintys, I know about an accident in uk that looks like the soaring thunderbolt or Oliver, the gwr engine was going backwards and until it fell down in the turntable
Thanks a lot Mark - oh wow really? That sounds like a Thomas episode!! :O
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
@@SamsTrains yep, it did happen, the accident happened years ago
The bachmann jinty is a very good locomotive my first ever engine was a hornby jinty but I would love to get a bachmann one day.
They're certainly not terrible - more detailed than Hornby's for sure!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
nice loco sam keep up the good vids
Thanks very much mate! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Recently I was tossing up between getting this engine or the Midland 1F - glad I went with the midland! Similar look, much better detail, turned bearings, a better quality 3pole motor that runs smoothly, a super detailed cab and even a better price. It’s a brilliant model compared to this. You were absolutely right - Bachmann themselves can do better.
Oh yeah the Midland is a better loco overall - very good runners too!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Its a cute engine.
Now I dread when my new Bachmann 0-6-0T comes in the mail (Cause I am a sucker for tea kettle or little tank engines) its going to have a old recycled mechanism too.
If you want to review more Bachmann, there’s a whole range of American locomotives by Bachmann
I think an interesting experiment episode could be to do another endurance challenge. Run a loco with proper bearings and one with square bearings and after a good long while inspect how they look and perform vs before the test.
It's funny how for this year, we're seeing the best and worst Bachmann has to offer. It's almost difficult to believe that the same company that made this Jinty is the same as the one that made the 1P and the 94XX. If only they can update the old models like the Jinty to their new standards, and actually justify the high prices they keep giving these models.
I want to see Sam do a review on a Broadway Limited locomotive and verbally shred the Paragon decoder to bits.
A very ‘nice’ discount in more ways than one!😂😂
Hello Sam, Im back
Its my Birthday as of Posting this comment.
And I got, not one, but 2 GWR King Class' and an SR Merchant Navy Class,the latter of which is now my favourite that I own.
My friend just bought me 47266 as a birthday gift on ebay for just £48, not to bad for a Bachmann Jinty
I hear the 3D printer in the background! You must've made another amazing piece of rolling stock!
I WANT A JINTY! Good video Sam. By the way, did you know that Reverend W. Awdry’s oo scale Thomas was made from a Jinty? It’s funny how Thomas the Tank Engine can be 3 different locomotives rather than just 1, the e2.
Years ago when I was in N scale my Bachmann steam seemed to need some hours of running to reach there best running. However there in scale steam ( US )had bearings and a flywheel .
Thanks for sharing Bob - I'd be interested in trying their N gauge some day!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I think this model is like their hall class where it’s sold at RRP for a over a decade as I have Ltd Edition Jinty from the 2005 London toy fair in BR Maroon that cost me £50 and it is the exact same build and quality as yours. Although I do love these Jinty’s reliable runners.
I think we need this engine on the anglenook next.
I used to have a jinty but it literrally caught fire! 😭
Makes me wonder if it’s possible to swap chassis on the 1F and Jinty. They look similar. Been curious of that myself. I’ve yet to find a Bachmann 1F to find out.
It might be - they definitely are similar!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Sam, please review the newly released Jubilees by Bachmann. "Ceylon" in the experimental BR green looks neat, but I worry that they haven't upgraded anything with the drive again!
Despite the ratings on this jinty, i REALLY want it in my layout. It would look lovely running trains on there
Hey Sam, you should totally check out lionels ho scale magnetic track. They have some pretty cool accessories too, but there pricey.
That sounds really cool - I'll check that out, thanks!! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
What's that hole for in the driver's side water tank on the prototype? On the Hornby model I thought it was a key-hole, as I believe theirs was available as a clockwork model at one time.
Hi Sam hope your ok I love the jintys I might get a bachmann one to go with all my hornby ones
Hope you are too Lewis! Me too - would be great to see a new tooled one though! :D
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
“Today we have a Bachman….” *grabs popcorn* this is gonna be entertaining
hi sam, i still have my Triang jinties with the x04 motor in,,good and solid and will last
I love Jinty engines I have three two old one new all are Hornby’s . I will not purchase the one from Bachman even though it looks good but the price is to high and after watching your review The way it is made it is not worth it. Sam again you have saved me money by showing what they are like.
Finally he reviewed an ho/oo jinty
A very nice discount.
I've got an old hornby one, haven't run it in ages because I haven't DCC'd it yet, but I'll be sure to run it next time I'm in the loft. The closest I've got is the bachmann 57xx/8750s, I have a br black one and a LT one, very nice models although not the newest or best (one has an 8-pin socket, the other I hard wired a chip into because its PCB didn't have a socket on).
Don't know why, I just love locos with the BRITISH RAILWAYS lettering. Like my Tornado in apple green, my new terrier in ex-SR green (I'm tempted by the black version just released), and of course my exchange trials liveried light pacific 34006 Bude.
I really hate how bachmann still produce models from 10-15 years ago (or more) with the latest DCC interface and the new style box as the only upgrades, and slap a modern price tag on. People say you get more detail from modern stock and you get what you pay for, but as you know, bachmann go against that trend. For any locomotive above £100, we deserve a 5-pole motor and proper bearings. And for a tank loco above that, we deserve a flywheel and fully painted cab too. And why can't we have etched works plates, like GWR/LNWR numberplates and nameplates?
Nice. I have the LMS version
It would be nice for Bachmann to have an equivalent of the Hornby Railroad range. It would really help people to understand better what they are buying. Like with the Jinty, it's fine to have an old tooling on the market but just needs to be clearer. A little bit of transparency might actually go a long way to help sales as I'm certainly hesitant to buy something from them when I don't know what standard to expect whereas if I have more confidence I'll buy more. They did used to have a Blue Riband sub-brand similar to Hornby's old Super Detail range. Granted you have to re-baseline and re-market every few years.
Love the jinty it’s a beautiful engine just beautiful great example of one
The lack of concurrency is what keeps models like this on the market, aka lack of anything better! I have a BR lined black from the previous release ( DCC ready but not sound ready ), brought it used, no box, for 37,50 in 2018 + 3.50 for a brass "upgrade set" from Comet Models do to the loco was missing a few parts! No issues so far. But i do have the Hornby too (witch is getting noisy) + a kit built, heavily weathered, static, scrapyard Jinty.
The jinty is one the most saw after model just for 0-6-0 custom
lack of decoration on a BR Black loco who would have thought it! But yes the cab details ought to be painted,
The problem is BR black is a basic livery in my opinion so Bachmann should bring the price down. Brilliant as always mate 🙂
Yeah it's very basic, and therefore cheap! This model was cheap, but not because Bachmann made it so... their RRP was still super high for this! :O
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
I love jintys cause of the series Jimmy the jinty
Sam what is the most recomended train for people looking for a new classic edittion..?
Older locos like this should have a place - but only at a lower cost
I was actually able to get a limited edition back for jinty for about £50. Is that a good deal?
I have an old Hornby one that smokes but I burnt the motor out but it judders so I use my Bachmann 57xx L90. not as details off eBay also I like watching you:)
3/4 jintys were regauged for Northern 'Ireland worked there for years
Only two were. No.18 was withdrawn in 1956 and No.19 was withdrawn in 1963.
Very interesting - I didn't know this!
Thanks for watching, Sam :)
Both were available from murphy models when the jintys originally came out approx 2007.
Hey Sam great video a lot of people actually depict Thomas as a Jinty but I have a quick question
Who made your ocean wagons you use a lot the little trucks that say ocean on them your Pepsi wagon and your Kit Kat wagon I’d love to get them one day but I’m not sure who the manufacturer of them is do you perhaps know ?
Hornby.
This is a rather strange question but how do you translate your star values to a final score?
still have my old Tri-ang Jinty
So which are the other 0-6-0 Tanks that are better? Have you reviewed them?
I honestly hope that every design team for every manufacturer just watches your reviews and just takes notes. The lead should be saying “our goal is to get a perfect 10 with Sam!“
I have often said this, surely it would pay manufacturers to see Sams reviews and tests of their products it would save them a lot of embarrassment, refunds and repairs, when will common sense show its face, but while they keep selling them and we're daft enough to buy nothing will change.
Some do, but in many modelling circles sam is disliked. Some manufacturers feel a lot of his reviews can be biased and often inconsistent. Some of his points are very good, but if you look in rmweb, many seasoned modellers and manufacturers aren’t fans of him
Hi Sam. I'm a little conflicted: The cab detail is underwhelming and some of the other detail seemed to show flashing that should have been removed. As you said, the price is a bit high (thank you, Bachmann). However, if not already covered by what I have said, perhaps the lack of detail is as you mentioned, down to prototype. Making comparisons to the Peckett and the Terrier seems a little like comparing apples and oranges. Yes, the mechanism sucks (thanks, again, Bachmann). Was it fair to test the crawl of the Hornby Jinty pulling a load?
Oh look it’s Jimmy The Jinty. (From dcg12b’s series “Jimmy The Jinty”)
Hi sam
Hope you are well?
It looks a great model
Shame no cab detail but the 1f half cab has it.
Can you see hornby or someone retooling it?
Keep safe arp
I bought the same one for £62,50. I just wanted a nice shunter alongside my tender engines