The Death of The R35 GT-R
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- Опубліковано 31 тра 2024
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In this video: 25 year old R34 GT-Rs now cost more than a brand new R35 GT-R.
And. Texas 2K event took place last week The Cops were everywhere.
And the R35 GT-R is on its last legs.
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R34 is my dream car, but I guess this video explains why it’s called a dream car 😅
Exactly! 😂
i must be the only one left that thinks the R33 was the way better looking skyline
No I agree it does next to the s15
R34 is a r33 with a body kit
I'd say the r33.5 and r34 for me
I agree too about the R33
Well you're not alone bud
I don’t know about other countries, but here in mine a 9/10 original EK9 cost as much as a used 8-9/10 FK8. That is like a 1.6 n/a against 2.0 turbocharged civic, spoke with Daisuke from Spoon Sport Japan. To my shock EK9 getting hard to find in Japan, most of those carss in bidding warehouse now with buyer in the long list of line to buy the car. Still remember he said “It just a 1.6 civic, I don’t understand why you people go crazy about it.”
Also. Only 600hp supercar killer is phenomenal.
Craig, thanks for making these videos they're great.
thanks for the news and stories and content man! I've been a fan since seeing you on 2 fast 2 furious dvd bonuses when I was a kid lol. glad to have good shit to watch!!!
Thank u @graig leberman ,for creating such a wonderful eye opening video abt the NISSAN GTR
Nissan should make a 240SX successor to compete with the BRZ.
They did tease us a bit with a Datsun like coupe. But they will not invest energy into it.
I’ll stick with the model kits. At lest I can afford those
You're still in love with your r-35. That says a lot about the car and the driver. Love the intro btw, esp the music.
They’ll come down with the market, as they currently are then go up again once more and stagnate. Not for really rare example obviously but for the majority yea. M-Spec’s are barely selling and it’s always the same people bidding on them on BAT, Cars and bids, and Japanese auctions just to keep prices up. They’ll bid like $100k the first day
Japanese halo cars were always pegged to be future classics. Recent pricing spikes have proven this, the time for performance bargin imports is over, these cars are now entering the collectors realm. If you want one of these and it's right on the edge or slightly above your budget then find a way to get the funds asap, prices are only going to go north.
Now the R35 GTR is going to be the car to get if they discontinue it.
Midnight Purple Tspec in 2025?
I like the t-spec with the rectangular grills & the midnight purple color. It's like they're realizing that incorporating z/fairlady design cues makes it look hideous so in an attempt to make the GTR look less hideous, they're trying to make it look more like a Skyline (as in prior to the renaming of the Skyline to what used to just be a trim, GTR). It looks more aggressive with sharp lines & less bubbly with curvish line. I actually like the interior as is. I really appreciate the all black, no alcantera, plastic, soft touch materials, leather & no stitching although I'm okay with same color stitching. I also like the rectangular ac vents & center console. I think it looks very sleek, clean, & sporty but also very comfortable.
Amazing Video.......❤❤❤
No Midnight Purple but that Millennium Jade looks good.
Should do another video discussing if the value of the R35 will go up now that they are being discontinued.
Ones a collector's car
The others a brand new car
craig… don’t talk about blue interior….. i’m just kidding i love your videos bro and i love all your car videos. keep up the good work!
More Alcantara? Having had alcantara it's nasty and hard to maintain. I'd say more carbon fiber.
We missed you Craig
I hear you Craig. We're gen x and our boomer parents are still in charge of the country!
True , and boomers are afraid of change and progress..they aren't the generation we all need running our countries.
did the video get removed i cant see it anymore this is just the page i open i didn't refresh it when i duplicate it is say video is removed by creator
I don't think you read the comment section, but I need to know, what is the front bumper on the yellow AutoCannon 2g Eclipse in the first film?
R35 is the BEST GTR EVER made, 17-23 generation will never be beat, wait till Nissan stops production of R35 how prices skyrocket
10:56 "...gobble up by speculators driving prices up further" proceeds to speculate that the prices will not be going down
video starts at 3:35
Just had a look what was available on an AUS site. 19 R34s starting at $190,000, going up to $550,00 AUD for a V-spec. Average price $250,000.
Good luck finding a nismo Z tune last one i saw on ebay in 2007 was 1.2 million dollars
Andrew Tate will probably order one watch
@@NightsN2dr3ams that nismo Z tune is 1 of 20 made..not easy to find one.if you.can good luck and easy way to spend 2 million USD
I'm not buying one I gave an example of someone who can haha@@andrewjames1817
It's mad, in the UK (England is the part that sets the rules) it is the TYRE noise that is killing the GTR! Crazy!
Nissan missed out on a golden opportunity here. Instead of coming out with the Z, they should’ve done a retro or classic R 34. They would’ve made a fortune!💰💰💰
They should have done both, because those are the only good Cars they've ever made, and the older ones were simply better looking
Good video.
Ah! Drag racing. The handjob of motorsports! It attracts an interesting collection of personalities.
Ive never really looked into GTRs. Great cars, but i have no interest in driving RHD. I drove my friend's R32 GTR and didnt enjoy driving it. Now if they were LHD, i would be interested.
I never cared for the R35 because of the auto-only transmission.
$78k in 2001 is $136k in 2024 dollars.
Ive seen them in the 60s where I live
R34 GTT price is same as used R35 09-14
Remembering your 2F2F video about the R34 GTRs the production had bought at those prices.. makes me realize how steep the prices have gone up for these beauties! 🫤
Is it also legal in Brazil now?
As far as noise regulations, open header life bishhhh
Not only GTR35 that gets banned here in the U.K, no 382HP GR Supra and no Nisssan Z at all. Plus we get about 10 GR86 as oppose to the thousands U.S and Japan got. Agree GTRs are not even loud. I would love a GTR34 non v-spec but they are still £120-£150grand here.
R34 is so over rated smh insane NSX and S2000 both better drivers car speed is subjective
Considering all... an Alpha platform Camaro SS with 1LE pack/tremec 6-speed would check all boxes, including speed
True but speed is not the issue the people who pay for R34 GTR are not looking for speed as a factor. @@BlueRidgePhantom
@@NightsN2dr3ams I agree with you... speed isn't a factor (well until you 1000hp+ up these things), but what people also forget is not that everyone wants to go fast or play "lego" with their cars, they just buy based on what was accomplished with the car and simplicity that went with it.
Of course biggest factor was "how epic it is"... and the R34 for some reason got the "epic" factor. (I'm not dissing it, I actually like the car).
Call Brian O'Connor at Top Rank.
Right he will take 10k off sticker price
I can build a cheaper car to go just as fast with a lot less money. Thats how they used to do it back in the day. We can still do the same today.
Facts. These days kids will pay $1000 a month plus to get the fastest car parked in mom and dad’s driveway
R32 R33 and R34 skylines are getting to damn expensive even though the R34 skyline is my favorite and dream car.
wonder if used r35 market will go up again, now that there will be no more made after 2025
The GT-R left the Australian market in 2021 because it didn't meet a new Australian Design Rule (ADR) that imposed stricter side impact standards.
We lost the lexus IS250/350.
It's really just an extortion tax. Worst place in the world I've seen to be an auto enthusiast.
California is pretty bad too.
In Europe you can go to jail for modifying your car. Count your blessings. I saw an 240z with S50 M3 engine from Australia, that would never ever be legal here. Count your blessings.
At least you could get the R34 GTR for well under AUD$100k at one point lol (can still remember R32's trading for $20k).
W video
Yep
Whistlindiesel will definitely get one
UK viewer here! What a load of b0l0x about the drive by sounds on the new r35's!! For real!?
If I had a line to whoever came up with that, I'd be telling at them on yours and everyone else's behalf for sure!
I had a massive spec r32 rb20det forged back in the sub £10k/ days here and it was a great car, but yea, not worth the £20k+ some models command here in the UK now IMO- but I think that's where you drumming it home "only you can decide" makes that message clear to people looking to buy these old jdm legends at the insane prices they're commanding
Keeping this vid handy to share with people I meet who ask me the is it worth it question moving forward! I always find it hard to articulate it.
If I hadn't owned one, and still wanted one--probably yes - having owned one, and thoroughly enioyed it and my time with it when I did, not for me now at those prices.
(I got out of my r32 gtst at about 16k here in the UK having bought it before the Internet folklore at about £6500, that appreciation covered all my maintenance and repair bills in my ownership period)
Good car overrated let’s all pick up good deals on r35 now since they are coming down with 2k horsepower build it’s still going to need up cheaper 😊 and easy to finance
They was 50k like 3 yeara ago
I’m totally fine with a GTT. Or an R33 GTS T. I dont have the crazy money for a GTR but still would like to build out an RB25
R36 in 2026?
if its electric 🤣 otherwise it'll be too hard for the manufacturer to make it meet nowadays standards
I thought Brian worked for Harry?
Supras A80 prices starting to go down though and they will drop even more
Yeah the na dropped to 30k I think when the mk6 supra comes out that and the mk5 will out shine it because everyone some is gonna get sick of the mk4 and move on
@@juwanhowardhll8019 nah not a single person would ever get tired of the mk4
@@juwanhowardhll8019 Bunch of MK4 Supra out there of 100K or more and not getting sold... guess what's next price down
The R35 GT-R is like the Z34 370Z.
Ground breaking, fast, and affordable when they came out. Hated for lasting too long and keeping up with rivals.
Maybe one day, I'll buy myself a brand new sportcar
I'll gladly keep my r32 gtr those prices are ridiculous
3 pedals all day 😎
maybe nissan should make a new cult car.
Everything is better with a manual.
you know what that means everyone will go for R35s to build while no one except the small percentage of enthusiasts will buy R34 GTRs to build.
The R34 GTRs will be the modern day "boomer" muscle cars that will sit and rot in someones garage waiting to cash out years down the road.
And a lot of these R34 the majority of them were parted out. The problem from these old cars that it's next to impossible to find parts, especially if you want the car. OEM. A lot of those parts are ready Discontinue,
Actually, that is not the case. You are familiar with the GTR/Skyline tax. This means note only are the cars pricey but parts were too so Nissan started making them again (Heritage Programme) because there was plenty profit in them. You can get the parts, you will be paying through the nose for them either way though.
240,000? Nah.
I'm buying a Rrari or a Lambo with that money. Or a 35 plus a 32.
They can keep the 34.
Agreed. Why would you spend all that money just to look like a ricer. It's never made sense to me.
I don't think it's worth it to buy an R34. Especially for that price.
I dont even want a GTR. I'll happily take a GT, GTT. Isn't there a GTS? sedan. I like every Skyline since the late 60s. The Kenmeri is a weird shape, but I'll still take it.
in south africa the r34 cost less then the r35
Only buy if you can comfortably afford it.
💪🙂👍
the 35 did better then the r34 when it came out
The r34 is king🤑🤑
All of the skylines are still just old japanese cars... Sold all mine for crazy money and would never buy one again at those prices.
Did you enjoy the car be honest better than most sports cars or worse in your opinion? What year and model did you have?
@@NightsN2dr3ams had both an r32 gtr and then an r34 gtr, by far the r32 was a better and more enjoyable car
I figured thanks for the input @@rfbftp123
I take an R34 gtt every day of the week. As long it's a manual. Also a r32 gt-r. The prices of the R34 GT-R's are getting rediculus. Same with Supras.
GT-Ts are really nice!
I agree, the prices of GT-R R34s are ridiculous nowadays!
There’s no way around it…
Thank god that the MK5 supra is still an affordable price. I know people clown on them nowadays because BMW and not making a ton of power, but really, I think the new supra is closer to what the old R34 and MK4 Supra were than the R35 is.
@@BRZguy yeah but the chassis isn't as good as the mk4's.
@@frederikjacob1985It’s better what are you on about lol, the Mk4 Supra is a 25+ year old car. It drives like a boat compared to it
@@idontgotagun9867 maybe... Until you drive it on the Nürburgring... Bump steer and stuff... There are a couple of videos about that on UA-cam.
I'm confused because I live in nottingham UK 🇬🇧 an iv seen loads of gtr's my friend owns a r32 gtr an another has an r35 in my opinion they aren't loud at all all these pointless lamborgini are much louder that a gtr stock ??
Nothing again you Craig as you seen the info on Internet but that's my comment
Cant help but feel like this car is going to go the way of the Lambo Countach, we will see replicas rolling around for like a tenth of the price which will be more accessible and reliable depending on the engine put inside, hell Id buy one, I like the R34, but even if I was wealthy I still wouldnt buy one, for what it is, for the price, just aint worth it, but a replica, for the right price, hell yeah id have one.
Same goes for the Lambo Countach replica manufactured by Prova in the UK, they are cheaper, have modern technology like parking sensors, better gearboxes etc.
You can't make replica r34, r34, r35, r30, r32, or any other skyline. You might find body parts, but you cannot replicate the rest of the body, engine, frame.
@@philipwilliams3427anything that's made can be reproduced just matter of cost
@@chrisfreimiller4878but doesn't make it a true gtr. Look at parts for 80's 86 they have to make it or use of carbon fiber and the price is about the price is about the same as the motor.
Active Garage is using carbon fiber to replace body parts and they go for $15k a piece. So like I said you cannot produce OEM pieces and replicated parts go for almost the price of the car.
Omari s1 RB 26 goes for 30k US.
Look at a Z tune and you will see that they use different material than a vspec, n1 or gtr.
Been done before on quite a lot of models, just you wait.@@philipwilliams3427
@@philipwilliams3427 ofcourse it won't be a true gtr if other companies make parts to build it. That's what a replica is a copy of the original.
There's still the option of a GTT.....
Overpriced cope skyline
Those are are like 40 to 60,000 why would I spend that much when they used to spend 5k like I can just get a 911 or a cayman at that point
@@61936 idk why you would, you don't have to, but some people want these cars and that's a cheaper way of getting into one. Sorry you don't like them. God bless.
@@nibba5692 It's a great car, feels very special. When you look at those tail lights in the drive or put your foot down you don't care that there isn't a GTR badge.
@@EFFCtoocool it's nothing special, for the price its going for you can buy a plethora of better cars.
Was looking at the Nismo. Not sure, but not for the reasons one would think. Its either getting open heart surgery or getting the car...
With my car buying habits, obviously...Im not bright, but who wants to live forever, right?
soon e46 is skyrocketing the price
Yeah all 1 million+ of them
It’s crazy what people already ask for them. A lot aren’t even in good condition and are high mileage.
I dont get why anyone would spend so much for a R34 when the R35 is head and shoulders a better car in all aspects. Including looks. Only fanboys will get mad at this comment.
R35 is missing in the simplicity side. By no means is an R34 simple, but it's simpler than the R35.
@@BlueRidgePhantom you can't compare a modern era car like the r35 with a car from the 90s. The GTR is way easier to maintain than any súpercar out there
@@OrlandoOsuna I don't know about "easier", the reason people like the R34 is because it's iconic and it's simple.
In regards to comparison - you can compare just about anything, it's the nostalgia that R35 is missing, only for the moment. 10 years from today we will have a different conversation
@@BlueRidgePhantom it is way easier to maintain an r35 then any Porsche. I own one. Oil change is 50 bucks literally...and I do it myself. Transmission 500 bucks (filters and oil are half of the cost) and I do it myself. Try that with a Porsche or Lambo... And nope..you can't compare different era cars at least objectively..not fair. Like comparing Jordan vs Russell in basketball! People are emotionally attached to the R34 but the r35 is way more advanced and superior in all aspects
@@OrlandoOsunaI don't disagree that an R35 may be cheaper, and maybe easier for some to maintain than a Porsche, not any Porsche as the pre 80's crossing into 90's are quite easy to work on (comparing to new ones). But it gets deeper than that. Fluid change is one thing, but then there the change of other components. Most people don't get into that because either the car doesn't have high mileage or they don't find it necessary to replace an old part because the mileage is low.
Then there is the availability of parts and
r34 is overrated ngl. the R35 is literally faster than the R34 lmao
so true... and way better looking to be honest.
Throttle House would beg to differ with a nicely tuned R34 😬 besides, the R34 is far easier to tune than the R35.
Death? Lol 😆
If i see an R34 beat the record setting R35s in TX2K, then yeah maybe the R35 is dead. Cars are meant to be driven, not traded like cards.
Day 3 of asking for you to do an episode on your current car.
Give it a few years and they will come down a bit. You would have to have a single braincell left to buy a old GTR. they are cool af and a great history but nobody can convince me they are worth it. I would literally be cheaper to convert a base trim to gtr
You ever seen old car values go down? They only go up or stay the same
@ve2430 There are plenty of examples of great classic cars coming down in value. As mentioned, the gtr is cool and will always hold some value, but once people realise what they are buying prices will come down. At the end of the day, buying a base modle r34, doing the drivetrain, rear quarters, and full gtr kit is cheaper than buying an actual gtr, once people see this gtrs will come down and base models will go up. That has been happening since cool cars were available.
@@mo_kxi_blu-ny1zpwouldn't that instead make the GT-R version EVEN more expensive? Some people really insists on authenticity and will pay top money for a real Skyline GT-R for example compared to a "GT-R'd" Skyline.
@PlatinumNath I understand what you are saying and yes.. to a degree. Only very rich collectors can really afford a nice gtr, Also the gtr spread across 5 relevant generations makes it quite common (plenty of opportunities to own a gtr). Its desirability is based off pop culture and in the case of the r32, racing heritage. Gtrs have become the mustang of the jdm world, some cars will remain unobtainable (400r and say an original Eleanor) but more common chassis do go down. Another great example is the Ferraris 355 (this already super long but i recommend doing some research if your interested). Now, yes, these cars most likely will remain high in price but they won't all live in that 100k mark forever. Once people start mainstream converting sedans and other lesser trims, the buyers who actually want (not collectors) will not justify the price of a gtr at all either making them more iconic or (what I think will happen) collectors start to see a stagnate pool of expensive gtrs laying around and prices start to drop, as we cant afford them and there is too many for collectors to property value them highly, thus making them less desirable overall unless its a gtr of some significance (eg, 400r - 2f2f r34). As I said before, inflating the price of lesser trims and deflating the price of actual GTRs
@@ve2430 Go look at the supercar market reports by SSO over on karenable, there's PLENTY of old cars that drop in value (Ferrari Daytona come to mind immediately).
price will come down. they arent rare
Maybe for older R35s, but you heard him say R34 GTR production amounted to 11,000 units. That is not a lot of cars.
Not true. Vspec, Nur, N1 and Z tune has highest prices for R32,R33,R34.
@firstworldproblem - So.. do you own one? if not, you have no skin in the market, just rubbish talks
They *are* extremely rare. In total:
C10 GT-Rs: 832 4-Doors, 1,197 2-Doors
C110: GT-Rs: 197
R32 GT-Rs: 43,937
R33 GT-Rs: 16,668
R34 GT-Rs: 11,578
And according to production numbers (as of 2020) "over 40,000" R35 GT-Rs have been produced since 2007.
The most sold gtr was the r32 I believe and they made like 42,000 of them
I'm shocked you are endorsing financing bondage.
The bubble on the R34 is going to burst then the prices will be back to normal.
Everyone thinks that but it won't. This isn't the housing market, this is a car that's becoming more and more rare with every day that passes....
maybe on the GTT or lower spec trim R34s but theres no way in hell the R34 GTR will go DOWN.....
Everyday these cars become more and more rare there not coming down any day maybe some more obscure things that don’t get that much attention but even then your still spending more then what it was 10 years ago
@@buildingcarsissohard1813 There will also be a time when those kids will become adults and understand that the R34 is too expensive for its own good. When the R34 loses those buyers then the price will crash. I've already seen a lot of people disappointed with what the R34 can offer at its price point
@JABelms The thing that it has to offer isn't the best 0-60 or braking distance times, plush interiors or even reliability. What it has to offer will never change and that's exclusivity. They don't make them anymore. Remember 60s mustangs? Those 302s are DOGs compared to what's out now. Not to mention they literally made over a million of them throughout the years. But look at where they stand price wise. A 1967 6 cylinder fastback in crap shape will bring $50k USD. It's a niche car and will always have a following. Same as the 34
Uhm. . . .1320 built his channel on illegal street racing. . . .
It's a joke they think they are loud, but when a hipster jumps on a ride on lawn mower missing a muffler... err Harley hog, it's A-OK now...
90's Japanese cars wouldn't be worth as much if those companies made decent cars for the last 20 years. The R35 is just not a handsome car. When I became able to afford them, I didn't even care. They can look aggressive blacked out with TE37's, but a fuckin Chevy Cavalier would look aggressive blacked out with TE's.
Unfortunately, Mercedes and their 25 year rule screw us all over. I drove a Honda S660 fairly recently, and it was amazing, those cars are as little as 8K. Newer, reliable, fun to drive. In 2040, those are not going to be newer, reliable, or fun to drive, and they will minimum of 30K. Because cApiTaLiSm.
I drove a GTR a few years ago, wasn't that impressed.
The R35 is overrated
Six figures to look like a ricer boy
They're not fun unless they're tuned...
It has been called computer on wheels ever since the start. It's a logical, rational-style solution to be a supercar unlike most other supercars, which can sometimes equate to low fun to chase speed with tech
Because you drive in a straight line
If I had the money I'd buy a R34 GTR Z-Tune and do a rwd supercharged LS swap lmao
That’s a disgrace to the brand
Hey, it's your money. But it would make better sense to just get an R34 GTT and put an LS in that.
Z tune still holds a 100k asking price and will continue going up in price, just like the n1.
LS motors are hot fucking garbage. 2JZ is better
@@midwestsneakerhead6511 i wish I could use such language in my comments as well 😭🤧
Luckily never liked R34s nor will I ever...same as the Supras....they just look dated & aint all that wow.The massive hype has driven this insane prices up...wht a joke
Next time just skip the video 😅🤣🤣
@@jayrios3090 hahaha.... good 1
Roll racing....BUHAHAHAHA
Finally!
It’s fast, but too long in the tooth.