Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Kanonenjagdpanzer, Pt 1.
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- Опубліковано 20 вер 2024
- What vehicle would best be covered after a Jagdpanzer? A more modern Jagdpanzer, of course!
And it's amazing what a few years of difference will do for your design. Correction: The engine deck is manual pump/elbow grease only.
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The tone makes me think someone has personal experience with smoke launcher fires.
I was thinking the same...
Probably also about writing up the report for lost personal gear...
And sleeping with no gear for a week.
Yeah, look like a "ask me how I know" situation.
I would bet that there are two kinds of tankers, those that have had a smoke launcher fire, and those that will have a smoke launcher fire.
The subtitle calling it the cannoli egg panzer is great. Machine transcriptions sometimes have real gems.
I'm imagining a German cop walking up to a BMP, tapping his ticket book in derision, as he walks around the IFV a few times. The crew inside are confused, nervous, and just want to get this thing to the army base where it can finally be added to the Bundeswehr inventory. He finally walks up to the window and asks
"You boys lose your mirrors? Cause I sure ain't seeing any mirrors on this bad boy...." But, you know....in German. So it sounds even more intimidating.
The series is great.
but when you talk about certain parts of the tank like specific engine parts, it would be helpful to get some kind of indicator (arrow or circle) to mark the specific part that is mentioned.
Noice! Was waiting for the chiefs head to pop out the other hatch at the end though 😂
I so enjoy each and every episode of Inside the Chieftain's Hatch - thank you for all these great videos!
Kanonenjagdpanzer: *exists*
Russian milk trucks: "its free real estate"
I beleive only War thunder players understand this XD
M22s be looking at it like it's a snacc
@@Tankliker quite a feather in your cap there, bro...
6:05 Actually that bin (EDIT: I meant the rack) in the back is for the camo nets. And german vehicle crews never had their gear stored externally, it was not a thing in the Bundeswehr.
That bin was initially used for the search beam "Achtung, Weisslicht!". Later, when that thing was replaced by thermal night vision (Wärmebildgerät), it was used for many things besides camouflage nets...beer cans, personal extra equipment..Leopard 2 crews always envied Leopard 1 and Jaguar crews for this nice extra storage place...besides other things
@@AN-nt3uv Beer..CANS?NOW We know why the Bundeswehr started to decline...beer from cans...fuckin barbarians
I love that I can watch these videos in quarantine!
Keep up the excellent work Nicholas! ;)
I remember learning about this vehicle in AFV recognition training when I was an armoured reconnaissance guy.
Aaaaaw. There was no track tensioning in this video. I feel a bit ripped off :(
Just kidding. Thanks for the great video Chief :D
And he does talk about the idler adjustment, just doesn't describe it as the track tensioner.
I don't know about anyone else but these types of videos are my favorite
Unofficial name in German army was KaJaPa
I have also heard Kanone (and Rakete for the SS11/HOT armed variant) and BW-Ente (referenz to Guderian Ente for the Jagdpanzer 4 )
Always cool to see a close up of the real deals.
Most Kanonenjagdpanzer became later arrillery forward observer tanks with the cannon cut off.
The track design is interesting. Do you thing that you could do a video on tracks themselves, going over the history of tank track design and their field performance?
"After its closing-down sale" (@2:45)
Perfect. Just perfect.
I keep thinking always when i see an infantry telephone in the back; One day the TC will get a call from that phone and the caller is speaking in a foreign language. Would be quite the nasty surprise.
Anyone else like seeing what's on the inside of the armoured vehicle's more?? N can't wait for the follow up to this video?
Belgium and belgian tankers who operated this bad boy really were pleased with it and fulfilled all the tasks and purposes belgian army asked to do !
Don't forget that Belgium had a Brigade in Germany at that time and was supposed to defend its "corridor" against hordes of "red" tanks !
JPK were also very appreciated as "jaloning" (dont know the term in english) but it something like a "protect avant-guard" and harass enemy on the retreat
We still got several running ones, not in duty but for "memorial" purposes !
JPK was used by "Cyclists Regiments" called "Black Devils" and specialized in tank destroying ! They were disciplinary battalions and were feared by the whole belgian army as "madmen" ! they operated along MILAN crews mounted on AMX-13VTT
*Ask me anything*
Well, if I can get access to one, I'll be curious to compare and contrast.
What was "disciplinary battlaions"?
"Wut is this, a RU251 without turret???" 🤣🤣🤣 my feeling seeing it for the first time
yeah, that is a way of describing this tank
This is the vehicle that led me to WOT, I was interested in the vehicle and couldn’t find many video clips except game clips
great video
enjoy the details
It's interesting to see that the German engineers kept the "saukopf" gun mantlet design that was on the Jagdpanzer 38, aka Hetzer. I only mention this because the design of the mantlet really cut down on gun traverse which was only 5 degrees left and 11 degrees right and made for quite a shot trap, especially with where the drivers vision port was located.
Ahh, potato. What cut in gun traverse in Hetzer was internal space. Ever saw internals of Hetzer?
Episode 3 of Respectfully Requesting "Inside the Panzerjäger Tiger (P) Ferdinand"
I'd kill too see a video on that!
I don’t think there are any in good enough condition to film the inside of. I’m pretty sure there are no running examples.
The tank is beautiful . I really hope the T69 will be the next tank to be reviewed
Oh look! We had one of those in front of our barracks in Munster. I always thought it looked neat.
5:52 You sound like you speak from personal experience... ;)
A significant emotional Event occurred.
"ask me how I know"
If i saw you at a museum i would stop and attentively watch.
Questions for a Q&A:
How do gas turbine engines fair in different environments compared to a diesel?
Does wear from any particulate like sand greatly affect a gas turbine's performance if not rendering the engine inoperable?
The big difference is fuel economy. A turbine sucks a lot of fuel, particularly at less than full throttle. Also, turbines take a lot more cranking to get up to starting speed, so you need much bigger batteries. And finally, for the same power levels, a turbine takes 4x the clean air of a piston engine. ¾ of that air is not burned, it's for cooling.
You do need some tricks to keep from sucking sand through the engine. I have seen what happens when you fly a Huey helicopter through a volcanic ash cloud. The compressor blades didn't look terrible, but the turbine blades were almost completely worn away!
The trick is formally called an Engine Air Particle Separator. It's basically a giant Dyson vacuum cleaner bin. Spin the air in a circle to throw the sand and dust to the outside, take clean air in from the center. The air also flows in a U shape, the air intake for the engine is up top next to the air intake for the EAPS.
Love the 40ID pin, Nicholas.
Another great video Chief!
That is a VERY American looking infantry phone.
I have an old friend who was an M60A1 Driver assigned to Germany (uhhhh . . . Badhersfeld?). He expressed admiration of the German JPK units, and the vehicle, itself.
Bad Hersfeld, McPheeters Barracks, former HQ of Patton
The Jagdpanzers were even faster than the Leopards. PzJgKp 130 in Sontra was in the 80s refitted from JgdPzKan (90mm) to JgdPzRak 2 (TOW).
Small, fast and with crews that trained where they planned to fight.
Looks like a modernized Jägdpanzer IV.
Finally, my favorite tank!
Nick, I want to know one thing and one thing only: How many blokes have to hang from the muzzle before the whole vehicle tips forward?
The barrel would probably move before the tank.
Very nice. Curious about that AFV for quite some time.
Considering how prolific the Cockerill 90mm MP gun is, the Bundeswehr was on to something.
Thought Chieftain might find a nice M1A1 Abrams to self isolate in.
Cheftain it sounds like you have experience with smoke grenade fires...
I spent a few days in 1 in 1982 cross training a German unit
Hey nick, do you ever think you will get a day of workshop filming with a maintenance or restoration crew to show some disassembly and how tanks were put together?
When is Chieftain going to doing a series on the jeep and the Kubelwagen and other cool small vehicles?
Kanonenjagdpanzer:
Kanone = canon
Jagd = hunt
Panzer = tank
Would have been a perfect vid if not for those meddling kids...
Scooby Dooby Doo, Where are you
We've got some work to do now...
Awesome
Not many bloopers
Good job
Errr isn't that "indicator and brake light on the right"? Great presentation as always but, iirc, not the first time there's been a little left-right confusion.
How would this compare to the Swedish Infanterikanonvagn 91, turreted, lightly armored, amphibious, with a low pressure HEAT firing 90 mm gun?
Thank you for this video, this is one of the most interesting vehicles I know!
However, is there a passive searchlight? :P
when you say front armour was good enough to stop ifv auto cannons was this a wild guess or did they make a piece of same armour and just shot serious different (calibres or calibers?) till they figured what penetrated and what didnt?
There are a couple of ways to calculate penetration. Generally a decent velocity gun can get one and a half to two and a half its caliber of penetration with standard shot, while HEAT can penetrate three to five times the caliber (depending on various design trade-offs and materials). Of course, this is presuming vertical standard armor steel.
This also works in reverse, hence why you will rarely see HEAT ammo for 20mm auto-cannons, but wide missiles work well with it.
Fucking music.....
I'll watch on mute with captions. Thanks Mr. Moran!
The (even) HetzerER
I made an account and idled in a game. Hope it helps these videos keep happening.
Looks like the Arv bergepanzer 2 they built from this thing and it looks odd with the rear light's sitting vertically unlike the lepard 2 now this is cool need find it in a model
Bergepanzer was on a Leopard 1 chassis. They are from the same time period and cold war germany tried to re-use as many parts and design concepts as possible. Say the hatches or the telefon box
I see some of not most of the track system thingies are still the same on leopard 2a6 which i drive
Necessitating mirros and blinkers on a tank is the most german thing. Hilarious
I wish you would do the development of the coaxial machine gun
9 minutes, Troop?? Nice cartoon
Obviously, I should be more careful where I stow my personal gear.
Can you confirm ore deny that there are videos about the Tiger and Tiger II coming ?
would love to see the big german cats in a inside the hatch video from you
Denied. I'm sure I'll get there eventually but no current plans
Had no idea this thing really existed!
Really? it was a massive part of the Bundeswehrs anti tank forcein it's day. The Raketenjagdpanzer would shoot enemys from long distance while the Kanonenjagdpanzer would kill the leftovers.
1:02 does it have Sherman tracks and a british type bridge weight (the yellow circle)
The bow machine gun has a tompion. It doesn't get a lot more German than that.
I'm not sure it's properly a tompion; the one for the coax and the one for the gunner's sight both look like they're plugging the *port*, not the MG barrel; it would be considerably thinner if it only plugged the muzzle of the MG.
There's a story behind the smoke grenade anecdote, isn't there?
Jessss🙌🏻
How about Raketenjagdpanzer 2?
isnt that the same tank just without a gun and instead a rocket launcher on the roof?
@@normandypilot8873 Yes.
@@normandypilot8873 No, the tank itself is rocket propelled.
@@normandypilot8873 It started out that way but later got up-armored, received a huge night fighting system, changed type and IIRC number of launcher... And the launcher system is interesting as well
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It's strange to see Nick smile
Crap. I must have slipped.
@@TheChieftainsHatch Lol. You are the best Nicholas
Thumbnail looked like his face got smashed in holy shit that's a bad one
Achtung, Panzer!
yellow 26 - the registration plate - no, you must know it better, its Lastklasse the wight class with 26 tonns - your are LTC what a mistake
Umm.. I said "On the other side from the weight classification you'll find the registration plate". Weight classification is on the right side, look on the left side fender.
@ The_Chieftain! How old are u really?
Today? 44.
@@TheChieftainsHatch wow you look good!
you ever going to do any ww1 tanks?
Yes. My favorite tank
aint a tank
It does contain tanks. Water,fuel,etc...but no it's not called a ''tank''
Why You split every vehicle video on exterior & interior part?
They are often long enough in two pieces. I try to keep them to 15 minutes, only two man tanks tend to be quick enough to be single episodes
So, it’s like a Jagdpanther, but if it gets hit it blows up?👍
This was the era were Heat amunition became the standard but composit armour was not yet available. Unless you would have created a Maus size monster, main tank cannons would kill you anyway. Therefor it made more sence to lower the armour so that it protects from autocanons and instead focus on mobility. Making shure you get not hit in the first place.
@@zafranorbian757 Leopard 1 and AMX 30 basically had the same concept initially
8:13 so it's not the exhaust then?
Just ditch the background music, please. It is distracting.
So, they decided to re-implement a jagdpanzer, except take a page out of the U.S. Army WWII tank destroyer playbook and not give it much armor - relying on speed instead? Hmmm...
TBF: By this time the German Bundeswehr were basically adopting a lightweight-everything, see: Leopard 1
@@darranhirose8153 Rediscovered that the 'fast' in 'fast troops' is actually important :D
Not just the US designs, also the Su-85 and SU-100. Maybe the FDR planners realised that the lighter, more reliable and cheaper US, British and Soviet designs had defeated Germany’s heavy tanks and tank destroyers after all, without suffering from as many mechanical and reliability issues. It must have been incredibly frustrating in 1944/45 to have what on paper were superb designs which kept breaking down, had often unsustainable fuel usage and maintenance requirements or simply weren’t manoeuvrable enough to respond effectively and get to where they were needed when they were needed.
Not having to obey the Fuhrer’s demands for designs that were ever more imposing on paper but not actually that useful in the field probably helped as well. In some ways this vehicle was a descendant of wartime Germany’s most successful AFVs, the Stugs.
Meanwhile the British, US and Soviets adopted the approach of designing vehicles that did everything the Panther was intended for, only did it better. Other than maybe Chieftain the heavy tank concept was largely abandoned everywhere - and Chieftain’s weight brought with it some mechanical and reliability issues until engine technology improved enough to cope in the 1970s and 80s.
Not speed, camouflage. Those are pure defensive vehicles. You set up a positions and wait for the red army. Then you shoot as much and as fast as you can and get the hell out of there, taking a new prepared position 20km back.
And the Brits went the other way, from the light, fast Cromwell to the heavy slow Chieftain.
How is he gonna fit!?
Mr.Chieftain. Please kick with your boot WG and tell these idlers that they haven't translated too many of your issues for the Russian-speaking audience WOT.
As interesting as the armored vehicles of the Great War's squeal are, I think I find post-war armor more interesting.
Where is Part 2?
It'll show up in a week or two
Inside the Soviet Tech Tree of WoT.
Oh, wait..
The last episodes were Jagdpanzer IV, Panzer IV, Black Prince, Archer, Panzer I, 2dpr universal carrier ,Panzer 61, FV622 Stalwart MkII, Chevrolet 1503, M8 AC, M151 jeep, M16 MGMC, Panzer III, M41, Bofors 40mm gun, M561, M3A1 Scout Car, DUKW, M5A1, Crusader, M43 ambulance, Cruiser Mk II, SOUMA S35, Char B1, FCM 36, Renault R35, STRV 103, Firefly, Strv 74, M4A1, Strv m42, strf mf 21, Centurion, Panther, M3 Grant, M47, AC Sentinel, and then T-55. There was no Soviet tanks for 4 years now on this channel. Last 37 episodes were not Soviet.
Whats wrong with you kid?
No respect for you.
...what the??...what the HELL is a "KANONEN"-"JAGD"-"PANZER"??...
It is a jagd panzer that jagt the kanone or it is a jagdpanzer with a kanone
Early in it's existence the Bundeswehr did not name vehicles. That gives us stuff like the Schützenpanzer, lang HS30 (Infantry Fighting Vehicke, long HS30) or the Standardpanzer (Standard tank - later became Leopard)
Actually this one is the
Jagdpanzer 4-5, Kanone, 90mm
Tankhunter (or hunting tank) 4-5, Canon(armed), 90mm (caliber)
This is often shortened in general use to Kanonenjagdpanzer since, as the Chieftain mentioned, there was a Raktenjagdpanzer on the same chassis using the french SS11 missile. That was later upgraded to the HOT missile and named the Jaguar 1.
@@mbr5742 it was upgraded to the hot but not named jaguar. There are different vehicles. The raketenjagdpanzer HOT and then as a Modifikation the jaguar.
The DDR "closing down sale." Good riddance.
Gonna be honest that just looks like a hetzer that’s overcompensating.
More space in there. Enough to drop a corporal through the hatch
Idk if it's just me but naming an IFV Marder, which in English sounds suspiciously like Martyr, doesn't seem like a good idea
Oh F-u-c-k Off! Guess what that means in my language?
Marder is german for Marten, which is a type of ferret.
@@jace8785 I was making a joke that it isn't a good name because it invokes in the English speaking world a sense that it's not that durable
Hello mr.cheff
Hallo
How many wargaming videos are there?
Re-upload?
No. They post on WOT channel before Nick can post on his a couple days later.
Just started video n sat down to watch while it was playin n then heard that f__ music. So irritating
Why do you keep reuploading your videos?
Pssssst look at the channel
And here we go. It was only a matter of time before we got one of these comments.
Here's a tip look at the channel name.
Don't worry. We're running out of Wargaming videos. Personal content is around the corner for those who don't notice different channels.
What a waste of armor.
Not really. You shouldn´t judge RL tanks by WOT gameplay. I know some older Leopard guys who had to train against these KaJaPa and they think it was very good if played by its intended role: ambush, run away, repeat. These days you had no thermal imagers or ground radar for joe avarage. And you could camouflage these very fast. You have to remember the task of the Bundeswehr during cold war: to stall the enemy and keep them busy untill allied forces arrive. Almost all of their anti tank stuff was fullfilling this one role.
why?
We had the Warsaw Pact right next door. If war had brocken out, We were the ones to response first. And since the Bundeswehr was a relatively small in comparison to the Brits and Americans we would have to stall until the boys with the big guns arrive. Thank God that's over.
@@nilshopf4881 the Bundeswehr was the largest and best equiped military in western europe. no idea why you thing the brits where bigger. they where a lot smaller, they didn't even have conscription, just a small army.
@@nilshopf4881 Active strength in the cold war was around 495000 including navy and the "3rd way to refuse the draft" (aka Lustwaffe ;) ). Plus a large reserve since we had the draft back then (about half the active strength IIRC where conscrips)