@@KozureOkami888 you can only know by looking at the screen under a phones camera so you can see the pixel structure. QDOLED pixel structure is triangle and WOLED is like a bunch of straight lines.
Most of the S90D models where I live, The Netherlands have a WOLED not a QD OLED pane,l BIG difference. I can't image how many people have have bought one of those TV thinking they got a QD OLED.
You know when you just buy a new phone and you see reviews afterwards and they are all talking how crappy that brand new phone of yours is? Well, this isn't the case, since I'm watching this 2 weeks after buying my S90D :D
@@NachoTheCat01 there is absolutely nothing wrong with the C4 that is an amazing tv i have the C3 and the only problem it has is lack of HDR content otherwise its an amazing tv stop your fomo, the difference in picture quality isnt even noticable in 99% of cases. Some people still use 10 yr old 1080p tv's and are happy, be happy with your purchase. Go on youtube and watch some HDR content and you will forget all about wanting a different tv.
S90D is ~$1100 before tax for the 65 inch on ebay with the coupon, decided to pull the trigger. Also chase has a 5% cashback on ebay puchases so it's even better.
@@justinpineiro9176 Yea in the states the 55 and the 65 inch s90d's are all qd-oleds. The model number also confirms that. I think it's more of a problem outside the states where W-OLEDS are mixed in with the 65 inches.
Just purchased my first Oled tv and I chose the c4 because of LG reputation alone. S90d is a great looking tv and at the end of the day my worry was Samsungs firmware history and customer treatment
i had a lg c3 and traded it for the samsung s89c both were about the same price so i only paid $200 for the tade in at best buy .....best decision ive ever done the lg c3 was washed out and grey looking the samsung colors pop and its bright but since its oled the blacks are true black but the colors OMG....and if your a gamer its a clear winner
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I’m replacing my S90D with the Bravia 8, and can tell you with confidence that I know I’ve made the right decision. All the gushing about the S90D’s measurements across the board here does not apply in actual practice/real content, and frankly was really disappointing. After MUCH time calibrating it and playing with absolutely every white point balance, colour and picture setting possible there was just no getting around its crappy processing. HDR was either dim as hell on its own, or blown right out if you turned on any kind of contrast enhancement. And for a tv that is supposed to have a perfect HDR gradient mine had a boatload of colour banding that was very noticeable in both regular picture, and game mode. It’s a colour beast for sure, and VERY bright, but it comes at the cost of picture quality which really makes it all for naught. The Bravia 8 may not be as bouncy and bright, but it makes up for it with image depth, peak highlight placement and a much more natural and cinematic feel. It feels like looking into the tv as opposed to just looking AT it on the Samsung. Plus, Samsung’s updates are a killer. The latest one nerfed the image quality, and locks you out of the service menu , which takes away any sort of ability to lift the restraints on its quality factor. Moral of this rant is to not let the readings and measurements of a tv sell you on its actual performance. I learned that the hard way, but was fortunately able to right the mistake I made, and would go Sony again every time
This reply sums up why Sony has so many loyal fans in the TV world, it might not be the brightest or most vibrant but it has a natural picture quality with depth and realism, they also have fantastic processing . I have a Sony 65 inch a80j and I absolutely adore it. Only thing I want is a 77 inch now.
Got the Bravia for 1280USD/1900AUD on Black Friday sale. Will give an update when it arrives!! I reckon it'll have some wicked value at that price point.
i just bought a bravia 8. i looked at all these in store. the samsung is bright. but there is a blur to it with fast moving action basically all tvs had it. it was distracting. i didnt notice much on the sony at all. it seemed to be brighter than the lg too. I notice on my dads crazy bright qled that brightness can be taxing to watch if its too much.
I’m planning to get my first oled tv. I’ve been eyeing the LG C4 which is $100 more than the C3 atm on Amazon so why not get the latest model right? Waiting for Black Friday to get a sale on the C4.
Note : S90D has QMS support for the Apple TV 4K 3rd gen. I connected my Apple TV directly to the TV, and connected my 4K Blu-Ray player directly to my receiver to bypass the lack of DTS support. The S90D is a clear winner here.
So what if I have a soundbar connected to the tv and a ps5 playing a blu ray to tv as well. Will that bypass the lack of support and send DTS straight to the soundbar?
Not really…. Factor in their QC issues and Samsung is the HUGE loser here. I’d rather not have to replace a $2,000-3,000 TV every 2 years because it failed…
I heard that the latest Samsung update for S90D drastically reduced the quality while the S95 got a boost…likely to make their flagship model look worth the price. Quantum TV did a review on this recently. Unfortunate since I decided to purchase this TV largely based on RTINGS reviews.
What's' crazy for the UK the S90D is by far the cheapest! Especially from Samsung directly! Really with LG would do QD-OLED to really compete with colour of the Samsung. For years OLED downside has been brightness I think from about the C2 it's been bright enough Samsung chose to chase colour (Plus added brightness) LG seem to just want to chase brightness at the expense of colour and heat.
I wish the 42" was readily available in the UK. It would be cheaper than the LG C4 42" which is very popular for people who want a gaming TV that is somewhat useable on a desk
Thought I would give you my experience with the Samsung s90d 55”. Took delivery yesterday which the TV screen decided to switch off but continue to play audio in the background and this happened around 10 times. This issue also happened to my friends Samsung TV 3 years ago.. Samsung are replacing my TV this week. Just thought I would let people know and also this panel is the WOLED not the QN-OLED because I’m in the UK.
I second this. I am personally disgusted with the idea of Samsung using the inferior WOLED Panels on their own TVs but I would like to know how bad they are.
@TheAsmileXD they have 2 different sku and that is because of lg display contract requirements to get woled cheaper than LG electronics and unlike LG WOLED. QD OLED advanced significantly from 1st generation to 3rd. Unlike LG who has been making same ex or evo panel for last few years and so many panels left over every year. unlike the qd oled which advanced year to year.
Excellent comparison of these three models. However, it seems to me that Samsung's lack of support for any Dolby video processing is glossed over for some reason. From what I've been able to determine, the majority of quality HDR streaming movies and series use Dolby Vision. Samsung, apparently, refuses to support Dolby, and instead supports a Samsung-owned technology of HDR 10+...which very few streaming content providers support. I would think this is a rather significant shortcoming, and not one to be ignored. Just my $0.02 worth.
I really wish we could get QD-OLED panels in the 42 and 48" sizes to use as computer monitors. I feel like that would be the next step from using my 48" LG C2 as a monitor currently. Is it all still 55" and up for QD's in the foreseeable future?
You are brave. My desktop would send an oled to the graveyard within 18 months. My PC is always on, and I mean always. I'll always pick high end mini-leds for monitors until Oled panels are much more robust. If strictly limited to a few hours of professional use a day I'd take an oled though.
Burn in is probably not really an issue anymore in OLED, I can't speak for QD OLED but dead pixel on the edge of the panel after few years is a real issue for WOLED, you can search LG CX dead pixel as people are starting to experience this, including me. That's why I will never touch OLED again.
regarding S90D, any issues with the ambience mode being way way too dark on any of the images? Can you try this out please? I have toggled auto brightness on/off and also manually put brightness up to max but its still too low... no idea what the issue is?
There’s something you forgot. The tuners. I think the Sony Bravia 8 is the only one out of these 3 that has an ATSC 3.0 tuner. And Samsung doesn’t usually have an option for auto picture size. And fit to screen is often disabled when watching broadcasts. I bought last year’s A80L back in May and it has this problem that’s very disappointing. Sometimes the picture flickers for about a millisecond. It’s impossible to diagnose because Sony wants me to try and capture it on video but it’s pretty much impossible since it happens so infrequently. And I do like the Google TV interface.
Nice review Abby. Can you please discuss interoperability between the 3 with third party products such as sound bars, home theaters, surround sound and TV recorders. For example, can the S90D remote (which is tiny) operate multiple devices ? thanks
You could always buy a smart remote. I bought some "no name" brand one from amazon years ago and its great. It connects to your phone with an app and then you can add new tvs and stuff.. The BEST PART is an unexpected feature though. Staying at hotels where they lock down the TVs with their custom remotes that block HDMI inputs and stuff. Bring your smart remote and BE THE HOTEL TV KING. I traveled for 3 months staying in hotels across the country and not a single TV stood a chance. I bring my laptop to connect and before this remote, you had to fight every single TV at the hotel to get it switch to inputs. Usually disconnecting its network, removing all HDMI, reboot etc etc.
I have a 77 C1, so I wasn't in the market for a new TV. Brand smart had the 65" 90C for $998 but upon adding it to cart, you got a free upgrade to 90D for the same price due to out of stock 90C's... I couldn't resist and now I got an upgrade for the bedroom haha.
I decided C4 because it was 150 dllrs cheaper, paying more for the Samaung just for more colors and more vibrant does not conviced me, C4 colors are great for me and i always use my tv in a dark room.
@@tbecket4890 I have seen that they showed it’s damaged. But that’s a couple of video old. I think they either created a short of it coming in damaged a month ago or a video of it.
Do you have a video where you compare the UIs of the different TVs? I had been thinking about an LG for some time, but when it came time to pull the trigger, I remembered how much I disliked the Magic Remote of the LG I bought about four years ago and started shopping Sony since intuitive UI is their trademark. I think that for consumers who aren't power users but who appreciate the perfect black levels of OLED, the tactile interface with the remote may be more significant to their long term satisfaction with the product than a few more nits of brightness or a higher refresh rate.
If your on the fence on whether you should go LG or Samsung.....i bought the c3 earlier this year but returned it for the samsung s89c QD-OLED not only was the samsung larger size for roughly the same price it was night and day better looking and faster when playing games on the c3 there was screen tearing at 120 fps ....not on the samsung its almost a gaming monitor thats also a tv ......the best buy tv salesman sold me on this tv i wanted something better than the lg oled i just bought and he was like.samsung is the best samsung is thr best ....he was right
Loving my 77" s90d, I just noticed that I’ve never gotten a notification for screen optimization / Pixel refresh even though I have over 15 hours on it. Is this normal? I thought after 4 hours of use it’s supposed to go through a refresh cycle. Any ideas??
Great video! However, I think it's a shame that this video was made before LG's new firmware update for the C4. The update brings better peak brightness, a fixed gamemode with significantly higher brightness and the color calibration is now perfect! I was able to buy a new 65-inch C4 for 950€, making it a clear non-brainer compared to the Samsung or Sony. 🙌🏻
Howdy I have a "problem" with the TV, at least I think so. Because when I start a game on the PS5, the picture goes black for a moment. When I close the game, it goes black for a moment. If you have any solutions for this, I would be pleased. My TV: Samsung s90d 65 inches
On the USA if you the serial number ends in FXZA it's a QD-OLED panel. I'm not sure how it works in the UK however maybe a quick Google search will help you out.
Looking to upgrade master bedroom LG OLED 55C9 to the 65C4 around X-mas. I have other LG C1 and C2 OLEDs with zero issues and they work perfectly with Sonos soundbars (Cable TV/Streaming, no gaming). Too much of a wild card going Samsung compared to sticking with LG.
I would love to see y'all compare how the tv handles not being connected to the Internet because tvs are famously not secure and share a ton of info about their owners.
If only Samsung would cut the crap and puts DTS back and enable Dolby vision. Since they removed those features back in the day I haven't bought another Samsung TV.
@herrbrahms it's worse when a ton of TVs don't support full IMAX enhanced on Disney + because they don't support DTS. Good TVs are already plenty expensive and they come up with BS like that (not supporting popular formats).
Do you know the difference between (and which is best) these two Samsung S90D? S90DATXXU (QD-OLED panel) and S90DAEXXU (W-OLED panel) ? I'm in Switzerland and I don't know which one we do have. I am not sure we do have the choice actually.
Hey about the build quality, in the rtings review of the s90c it say that the panel is slightly bowed like the s95b and it can worsen if the tv is lifted reapetedly. does that also happens over time if wall mounted? What about full motion mounts and mantle mounts? (Up and down mounts)
The s90d has some kind of processing problem. When watching movies the tv blurs out faces with this blue white mess and it ruins what your watching. Could be the new update or i don't know what i'm doing, i don't know. The sony menu i like better for sure the samsung is horrible. The samsung has a good picture and color but sony has more of a well rounded processing. My A80l got broke so i bought s90d becuse i wanted a different brand other then Sony, now i see why Sony cost more it's a better tv for sure
DTS audio would not play from that TV's native apps or any media device when connected directly to the TV. But you can still get DTS audio by connecting an external media player that supports DTS (like a Blu-ray player or streaming device) to the soundbar, then soundbar to the TV. As long as the soundbar can support VIDEO PASSTHROUGH to the TV, you'll get DTS audio.
@@markstorts8303 processing only works on low bit rate 480i and below content. Anything higher than that and all TVs will do excellent. Are you still watching old reruns of MASH?
Maybe I have Samsung fatigue from all the easily broken Galaxy S phones I've owned. But Samsung needs to respect their customers and industry standards. They also need to have a simple solution for operating 2 Samsung TVs right next to each other. At this point I have 4 different brands in my sports bar living room. I replaced an 8500 plasma with the Sony because I use the ATSC 3.0 tuner a lot for local news and sports. I also like the Netflix calibrated mode. Netflix and chilling is always best with proper calibration.
I’m considering the S90C Samsung as its the best value but I am worried about the soap opera effect and if that’s disabled, there is stuttering for 24fps movies. Is this true?
Sadly I missed a recent LG sale where they sold the 65 inch G4 and the dsg10ty soundbar for a combined price of 2100€ or roughly 2300$ including all taxes.
Yeah... I almost got the Samsung S90D; then I saw a bunch of image motion issues in-person and picked up the Sony instead. Videos online can only do so much. Go stand in Costco / Best Buy for a few hours looking at exact same content on the different screens if you want to really choose. Be careful with that -- a lot of TV demos do mostly camera pans for motion -- really watch for specific game and movie / sports humans in motion. You'll see for yourself.
If you’re going to judge off the Costco feed and see them side by side, it’s important to note that Costco employees set up the TVs themselves and the settings are going to be varied. The “motion issues” you described don’t exist outside of aggressive out of the box eco, standard, and dynamic modes and can be turned off or adjusted inside these modes. If you look most sets from all brands are set up in a basic mode with motion interpolation all the way up which exacerbates artifacts in poor feeds like Costco built in feed and sometimes their own demo content.
So... some questions for the HDR loremasters: Say I want to watch a Dobly Vision movie in my Samsung S90D, will it: - Be played as an unknown HDR format and look all messed up - Be played in SDR - Automatically fall back to HDR10 or HDR10+ (if yes, does this depend on if the video file has the required fallback metadata?) - Automatically tonemap to HDR10 or HDR10+ during playback (if yes, will this look worse than native HDR10/HDR10+/DV?)
It will fallback to HDR10 and use its own dynamic tonemapping (DTM) which can often be disabled if you want to see the difference. It is my understanding that DTM has come far enough that DV isn't as important as it used to be, but if you want tonemapping that is more accurate to what was intended it is still going to be the preference for many people.
Because Dolby Vision is the premium Dynamic Metadata HDR that many streaming and especially disc based content is mastered with as an option to HDR10 static. HDR10+ in content count is much much lower in adoption and application on premium content.
@@Assyrianair4orce HDR10 is the default for Samsung and its just as good and bright and colorful as DV if not more. You can't tell the difference and has been proven by many in the TV industry...
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@@clivematthews95 did you decide to get it? it's 600 bucks currently and it uses an LG B3 or B4 panel, can't remember which. It has less brightness than the LG models but I mean 600 bucks.. cheapest I've seen an OLED at that size
Anyone else having a static sounding issue with the Bravia 8 while using a PS5? It is so annoying and I feel like they aren’t any closer in fixing this issue
I could get 55 inch S85D for about 950$ in my country now, the next cheapest OLED is LG B4 for 1250$. I've seen the reviews and LG is a bit better at everything but surely for this price I should get the Samsung right?
@@jrmcdonald821 of course I don’t I actually know about TVs lol. I wouldn’t even like one for free with all the issues it has. It would drive me insane. I’ve been using a Samsung made QDOLED panel long before you lol. As I am using the first device to use them, the Alienware aw3427dw. The samsung panel is great. It’s the reason why the Sony A95L made such a great TV. Problem is Samsung isn’t great at making TVs. They haven’t made anything decent for the time current times in over half a decade ago. Haven’t made the best TV in at least 10 years. Usually I recommend Panasonic and Sony if you want the best, next best thing is a LG oled. Samsung is more getting eaten alive by TCL and Hisense because they’re value volume over quality. Like getting a burger at McDonald’s.
they basically the same out of the box but if you do mods them (play in the service menu voiding the waranty) the s95c can get brighter from what i've read s90d will top at 1500nits while s95c will top at 2000nits. I've bought s90d and out of the box it is already bright enough tho. some people had issues with the s95c because of the connect box, s90d it's all built-in so better chance to avoid the problems
@@TheBucsAnthem got it. Was confused because of the link. I think the linked the wrong model for a while. I was out of the the TV Gane for a couple of years. Last thing I now OLED was just that. Now there is WOLED and QD OLED. Can you help me out here too?
@ericebling2099 W (white) OLED is old legacy technology for OLED TVs that pushes a greenish tint to the panels and colors. QD (quantum dot) OLED is the newest technology for OLED TVs that pushes a magenta tint to the panels and colors. The majority of the time you won't notice the greenish or magenta tint unless you look for it or the processing for panel is subpar or the panel has some issues. Both OLED technologies are great, but Quantum Dot OLED TVs generally have brighter colors and more saturation than WOLED Tvs. I wouldn't base your TV buying decisions off of any TV technology but rather the reliability of the TV manufacturer and what your eyes prefer. .....and Don't let anybody on these youtube channels tell you one technology is better than the other either......most of the youtube influencers have hidden agendas and never speak the honest truth about flaws in TVs........just my 2 cents
Can someone tell me which tv is better? Samsuns S90 D or Sony A80L. I'm using it for streaming (prime, UA-cam) and some music + normal tv programs. Both would be 55. Sony cost 1299€ and the Samsung 1099€. I don't know a lot about the Sony one. Can someone help me, if its better and worth the more price?
For what your using the TV for I would go with Sony. If you were going to be going gaming movies and other streaming content aka Hulu ECT I would go S90D. Both tvs are good.
To me, it seems like the LG is the pick of the bunch here. Feature set wise, it isn’t as compromised as the others and picture quality differences seem barely negligible.
They had the s90d next to the c4 at Sam's club and the c4 could definitely holds it own They had the color turned up too high on it, but the overall processing seemed better on the LG and the blacks looked deeper, everything popped more due to the glossier coating Reflection handling was noticeably better on the s90d though and it's colors looked very accurate. It was one of these cant go wrong with either type of situations. Best I saw there no question was the 77inch c4. I'm sure it was the mode it was in, but it was gorgeous. Just ridiculous color and black levels and overall luminance. So it's def a very capable tv with the right settings
Can we have the comparsion between the s90D WOLED panel and LG and Sony WOLED panels please?? We know QD-OLED is fricking amazing but Samsung deprived S90D in 77 inch of QD-OLED panel and instead has WOLED panel. So lets compare WOLED panels between these 3 TVs
It's a good jump. I have a c1 and I was real surprised at how good the c4 looks with the right settings. Noticeably brighter. For my money I think I'd rather have size having seen how good the c4 can be.
Abby is the flagship reviewer of Rtings.
She the OLED of TVs
I miss the other guy, but Abby is my favorite
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Funny how Samsung are swapping QDOLED out for WOLED and none of the reviewers are calling out this disgusting panel lottery.
Please upvote this comment. It is seriously misleading especially in the context of these review and comparison video's
How to get to know. There must be some, if small, info in the box.
@@KozureOkami888 you can only know by looking at the screen under a phones camera so you can see the pixel structure. QDOLED pixel structure is triangle and WOLED is like a bunch of straight lines.
55 n above are qd oled
@@shaymtbrider7244 wrong, 55 and 65 are a lottery, its best to check the model number, if u can.
Most of the S90D models where I live, The Netherlands have a WOLED not a QD OLED pane,l BIG difference. I can't image how many people have have bought one of those TV thinking they got a QD OLED.
Only 65" comes with QD-OLED in Germany.
You know when you just buy a new phone and you see reviews afterwards and they are all talking how crappy that brand new phone of yours is? Well, this isn't the case, since I'm watching this 2 weeks after buying my S90D :D
This is the case for me cause i bought the LG C4 😢
@@NachoTheCat01you have a great tv.
@@NachoTheCat01 there is absolutely nothing wrong with the C4 that is an amazing tv i have the C3 and the only problem it has is lack of HDR content otherwise its an amazing tv stop your fomo, the difference in picture quality isnt even noticable in 99% of cases. Some people still use 10 yr old 1080p tv's and are happy, be happy with your purchase. Go on youtube and watch some HDR content and you will forget all about wanting a different tv.
Is your model woled or qd oled?
@@afleo7475 how can I make sure? I live in Mexico so my model code is not listed on Rtings. It’s slightly different. But it’s a 65 inch
Just waiting for Black Friday to order my S90D, Samsung usually do good deals then. Thanks for your review.
@@justinpineiro9176thanks for the heads up man. Will be ordering my TV now
S90D is ~$1100 before tax for the 65 inch on ebay with the coupon, decided to pull the trigger. Also chase has a 5% cashback on ebay puchases so it's even better.
@@JustKeepFlying did you confirm that it was the qd OLED?
@@justinpineiro9176 Yea in the states the 55 and the 65 inch s90d's are all qd-oleds. The model number also confirms that. I think it's more of a problem outside the states where W-OLEDS are mixed in with the 65 inches.
@@JustKeepFlying you made a mistake.. the samsung doesn’t have DOLBY Vision or ATMOS.. hope you don’t plan on watching blurays on that tv
Just purchased my first Oled tv and I chose the c4 because of LG reputation alone. S90d is a great looking tv and at the end of the day my worry was Samsungs firmware history and customer treatment
Your C4 also has Dolby Vision, which Samsung does not. You made a good choice.
I think I’m gonna pull the trigger , with the lg
@@saragosarebolledo5392 there’s an early Black Friday deal through Costco with the three-year extended warranty included.
@ you will love it
i had a lg c3 and traded it for the samsung s89c both were about the same price so i only paid $200 for the tade in at best buy
.....best decision ive ever done the lg c3 was washed out and grey looking the samsung colors pop and its bright but since its oled the blacks are true black but the colors OMG....and if your a gamer its a clear winner
Just got the S90DD costco variant, Love it
Which one is that?
What size? Any issues?
@@jhigh125 S90DD QD OLED 65"
@@ZeitGeist_TV no issues 65"
55 and 65
hi me from Bangladesh .... really very nice reviews
got a new 65 inch G4 for 2k usd from lg partner store, i think that was the winner of 2024 for me
I got my G2 new on sale last year and it's the best TV I've ever owned. Looking to upgrade upgrade my monitor to the C5 next year.
A 65inch g4 for only 2k is insane
@@prestonschumacher1314 lg partner store flash sales, if you can get access def. Samsung was so stingy with their discounts lol
@@prestonschumacher1314 yea, didnt even know the lg partner store existed, I checked samsungs one and they were so stingy, barely any discounts!
Got the same deal. So dope.
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I’m replacing my S90D with the Bravia 8, and can tell you with confidence that I know I’ve made the right decision. All the gushing about the S90D’s measurements across the board here does not apply in actual practice/real content, and frankly was really disappointing. After MUCH time calibrating it and playing with absolutely every white point balance, colour and picture setting possible there was just no getting around its crappy processing. HDR was either dim as hell on its own, or blown right out if you turned on any kind of contrast enhancement. And for a tv that is supposed to have a perfect HDR gradient mine had a boatload of colour banding that was very noticeable in both regular picture, and game mode. It’s a colour beast for sure, and VERY bright, but it comes at the cost of picture quality which really makes it all for naught. The Bravia 8 may not be as bouncy and bright, but it makes up for it with image depth, peak highlight placement and a much more natural and cinematic feel. It feels like looking into the tv as opposed to just looking AT it on the Samsung. Plus, Samsung’s updates are a killer. The latest one nerfed the image quality, and locks you out of the service menu , which takes away any sort of ability to lift the restraints on its quality factor. Moral of this rant is to not let the readings and measurements of a tv sell you on its actual performance. I learned that the hard way, but was fortunately able to right the mistake I made, and would go Sony again every time
This reply sums up why Sony has so many loyal fans in the TV world, it might not be the brightest or most vibrant but it has a natural picture quality with depth and realism, they also have fantastic processing . I have a Sony 65 inch a80j and I absolutely adore it. Only thing I want is a 77 inch now.
Got the Bravia for 1280USD/1900AUD on Black Friday sale. Will give an update when it arrives!! I reckon it'll have some wicked value at that price point.
I’m watching this on my Bravia 8. I still love it but can see why the S90D is liked.
Hope you're enjoying it! 😄
i just bought a bravia 8. i looked at all these in store. the samsung is bright. but there is a blur to it with fast moving action basically all tvs had it. it was distracting. i didnt notice much on the sony at all. it seemed to be brighter than the lg too. I notice on my dads crazy bright qled that brightness can be taxing to watch if its too much.
@@nealcomeau1166your tv is too dim to notice the blur
@@Drogas3653 and your TV is washed and have a radioactive colors
Me too I just exchanged the c4 for the Samsung s90D
I’m planning to get my first oled tv. I’ve been eyeing the LG C4 which is $100 more than the C3 atm on Amazon so why not get the latest model right? Waiting for Black Friday to get a sale on the C4.
Note : S90D has QMS support for the Apple TV 4K 3rd gen. I connected my Apple TV directly to the TV, and connected my 4K Blu-Ray player directly to my receiver to bypass the lack of DTS support. The S90D is a clear winner here.
So what if I have a soundbar connected to the tv and a ps5 playing a blu ray to tv as well. Will that bypass the lack of support and send DTS straight to the soundbar?
Not really…. Factor in their QC issues and Samsung is the HUGE loser here. I’d rather not have to replace a $2,000-3,000 TV every 2 years because it failed…
Already bought the s90d waiting for installation tomorrow 😅❤
Bad idea I Work for Comcastand 90% Samsung owners include me having trouble with HDMI and WiFi connections.
@@tempest031 Great Tv
I heard that the latest Samsung update for S90D drastically reduced the quality while the S95 got a boost…likely to make their flagship model look worth the price. Quantum TV did a review on this recently. Unfortunate since I decided to purchase this TV largely based on RTINGS reviews.
Just got the s90d 55 inch love it thanks for your review and helping me decide
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What's' crazy for the UK the S90D is by far the cheapest! Especially from Samsung directly! Really with LG would do QD-OLED to really compete with colour of the Samsung. For years OLED downside has been brightness I think from about the C2 it's been bright enough Samsung chose to chase colour (Plus added brightness) LG seem to just want to chase brightness at the expense of colour and heat.
I wish the 42" was readily available in the UK. It would be cheaper than the LG C4 42" which is very popular for people who want a gaming TV that is somewhat useable on a desk
Thought I would give you my experience with the Samsung s90d 55”. Took delivery yesterday which the TV screen decided to switch off but continue to play audio in the background and this happened around 10 times. This issue also happened to my friends Samsung TV 3 years ago.. Samsung are replacing my TV this week. Just thought I would let people know and also this panel is the WOLED not the QN-OLED because I’m in the UK.
Can you compare the s90d woled version
I second this. I am personally disgusted with the idea of Samsung using the inferior WOLED Panels on their own TVs but I would like to know how bad they are.
@@TheAsmileXDSamsung knows no boundaries with disappointment that’s for sure.
+1
@TheAsmileXD they have 2 different sku and that is because of lg display contract requirements to get woled cheaper than LG electronics and unlike LG WOLED. QD OLED advanced significantly from 1st generation to 3rd. Unlike LG who has been making same ex or evo panel for last few years and so many panels left over every year. unlike the qd oled which advanced year to year.
The C4 panel would be the direct analog wort it since Samsung gets their panels from LG.
Perfect timing. Thanks for the video
Hope you enjoyed it! 😄
Excellent comparison of these three models.
However, it seems to me that Samsung's lack of support for any Dolby video processing is glossed over for some reason. From what I've been able to determine, the majority of quality HDR streaming movies and series use Dolby Vision. Samsung, apparently, refuses to support Dolby, and instead supports a Samsung-owned technology of HDR 10+...which very few streaming content providers support. I would think this is a rather significant shortcoming, and not one to be ignored.
Just my $0.02 worth.
I really wish we could get QD-OLED panels in the 42 and 48" sizes to use as computer monitors. I feel like that would be the next step from using my 48" LG C2 as a monitor currently. Is it all still 55" and up for QD's in the foreseeable future?
You are brave.
My desktop would send an oled to the graveyard within 18 months.
My PC is always on, and I mean always.
I'll always pick high end mini-leds for monitors until Oled panels are much more robust.
If strictly limited to a few hours of professional use a day I'd take an oled though.
What if my S90D is WOLED? How would it differ the outcome of this comparison?
Yea EU got ripped off with WOLED S90D even in 55-77" size mix 😢
Less vibrant in colour but not overly different people exagerate
Just bought the s90d, using it for gaming and streaming. Hopefully I will be free of burn ins
Just make sure to watch (or play) varied content and you should be okay!
Is there nothing on Samsungs TV to counter burn innlike LG?
Burn in is probably not really an issue anymore in OLED, I can't speak for QD OLED but dead pixel on the edge of the panel after few years is a real issue for WOLED, you can search LG CX dead pixel as people are starting to experience this, including me. That's why I will never touch OLED again.
@@warheat-vv4idthe CX is nearly six years old, I have also seen a lot of LCDs starting to break down for other issues in that time span
You mean 5 a bit hard to say 6 when it came out ~2020 april, and not every piece sold on day one 😅@@darthbroda
Thank you for this video. I’ve been waiting a long time for the comparison
No problem! Happy to hear that we could deliver!
Are you guys reviewing the new panasonic MiniLed and OLED?
The sub pixel layout of the C4 is BWRG not RWBG. This makes a difference in reducing fringing on text when used as a PC monitor for example.
Thanks Abby to you and your team. Same as most, doing the 65" or 77" benefit vs price in my head... for me this is the hard part!!
regarding S90D, any issues with the ambience mode being way way too dark on any of the images? Can you try this out please? I have toggled auto brightness on/off and also manually put brightness up to max but its still too low... no idea what the issue is?
There’s something you forgot. The tuners. I think the Sony Bravia 8 is the only one out of these 3 that has an ATSC 3.0 tuner. And Samsung doesn’t usually have an option for auto picture size. And fit to screen is often disabled when watching broadcasts. I bought last year’s A80L back in May and it has this problem that’s very disappointing. Sometimes the picture flickers for about a millisecond. It’s impossible to diagnose because Sony wants me to try and capture it on video but it’s pretty much impossible since it happens so infrequently. And I do like the Google TV interface.
Owner of the S95c for Ps5 and movies, i have to say it's an awesome all-around tv
any hdmi blackouts?
@mohammedsmith4047 No, nothing at all 💪
Perfect right up until you have to switch inputs. Only Samsung would take it off the remotes, and a million steps to do it
Just tell Alexa to do it and it’s instant lol
Nice review Abby. Can you please discuss interoperability between the 3 with third party products such as sound bars, home theaters, surround sound and TV recorders. For example, can the S90D remote (which is tiny) operate multiple devices ? thanks
You could always buy a smart remote. I bought some "no name" brand one from amazon years ago and its great. It connects to your phone with an app and then you can add new tvs and stuff.. The BEST PART is an unexpected feature though. Staying at hotels where they lock down the TVs with their custom remotes that block HDMI inputs and stuff. Bring your smart remote and BE THE HOTEL TV KING. I traveled for 3 months staying in hotels across the country and not a single TV stood a chance. I bring my laptop to connect and before this remote, you had to fight every single TV at the hotel to get it switch to inputs. Usually disconnecting its network, removing all HDMI, reboot etc etc.
I have a 77 C1, so I wasn't in the market for a new TV. Brand smart had the 65" 90C for $998 but upon adding it to cart, you got a free upgrade to 90D for the same price due to out of stock 90C's... I couldn't resist and now I got an upgrade for the bedroom haha.
I decided C4 because it was 150 dllrs cheaper, paying more for the Samaung just for more colors and more vibrant does not conviced me, C4 colors are great for me and i always use my tv in a dark room.
LG C4 is my Choice , but they are all really good 🎉
Which one should I get? I play mostly nba2k and call of duty for my ps5 pro
C4 or S90D You aré covered.
Do you soon get a Panasonic in?
@8:01 yeah they got it……more like the Panasonic got it. Looks like it’s going to be a while.
@@tbecket4890 I have seen that they showed it’s damaged. But that’s a couple of video old. I think they either created a short of it coming in damaged a month ago or a video of it.
How is the sound of this TV for those of us who can’t guy a soundbar right away? Acceptable/good; we can get by for a while?
Will you review the Panasonic W95A?
For me, upscaling and processing are the most important. But they all 3 seem pretty great.
Do you have a video where you compare the UIs of the different TVs? I had been thinking about an LG for some time, but when it came time to pull the trigger, I remembered how much I disliked the Magic Remote of the LG I bought about four years ago and started shopping Sony since intuitive UI is their trademark.
I think that for consumers who aren't power users but who appreciate the perfect black levels of OLED, the tactile interface with the remote may be more significant to their long term satisfaction with the product than a few more nits of brightness or a higher refresh rate.
Why are they not mentioning the qdoled panels being woled in many sizes and regions. Can only get 65inch Samsung in qdoled in uk all others are woled
Hello from greece. Here the s90d is woled not a qd-oled. Any chance for a comparison of a s90da woled vs c4?
If your on the fence on whether you should go LG or Samsung.....i bought the c3 earlier this year but returned it for the samsung s89c QD-OLED not only was the samsung larger size for roughly the same price it was night and day better looking and faster when playing games on the c3 there was screen tearing at 120 fps ....not on the samsung its almost a gaming monitor thats also a tv
......the best buy tv salesman sold me on this tv i wanted something better than the lg oled i just bought and he was like.samsung is the best samsung is thr best ....he was right
Loving my 77" s90d, I just noticed that I’ve never gotten a notification for screen optimization / Pixel refresh even though I have over 15 hours on it. Is this normal? I thought after 4 hours of use it’s supposed to go through a refresh cycle. Any ideas??
Great video! However, I think it's a shame that this video was made before LG's new firmware update for the C4. The update brings better peak brightness, a fixed gamemode with significantly higher brightness and the color calibration is now perfect! I was able to buy a new 65-inch C4 for 950€, making it a clear non-brainer compared to the Samsung or Sony. 🙌🏻
Hi. How do you know all those fixes are made for the C4?
Howdy
I have a "problem" with the TV, at least I think so.
Because when I start a game on the PS5, the picture goes black for a moment. When I close the game, it goes black for a moment.
If you have any solutions for this, I would be pleased.
My TV: Samsung s90d 65 inches
Does any know where I can find a Samsung s90d with the QD oled in 55” Panel here in the uk? The model numbers are so confusing? TIA
On the USA if you the serial number ends in FXZA it's a QD-OLED panel. I'm not sure how it works in the UK however maybe a quick Google search will help you out.
In my country EXXH ending is woled, TXXH is qd.
Looking to upgrade master bedroom LG OLED 55C9 to the 65C4 around X-mas. I have other LG C1 and C2 OLEDs with zero issues and they work perfectly with Sonos soundbars (Cable TV/Streaming, no gaming). Too much of a wild card going Samsung compared to sticking with LG.
I would love to see y'all compare how the tv handles not being connected to the Internet because tvs are famously not secure and share a ton of info about their owners.
Just bought the SAMSUNG S90D 65 inch(QD model)Best tv i have ever seen.....ever..
What about the aggressive ASBL especially in SDR? Doesn't bother you?
I would really like to see the review of S90D with woled panel... In Europe we have only 65'' qd-oled, every other woled.
If only Samsung would cut the crap and puts DTS back and enable Dolby vision. Since they removed those features back in the day I haven't bought another Samsung TV.
It reeks of cheapness since they don't want to pay for Dolby licensing.
@herrbrahms it's worse when a ton of TVs don't support full IMAX enhanced on Disney + because they don't support DTS. Good TVs are already plenty expensive and they come up with BS like that (not supporting popular formats).
Do you know the difference between (and which is best) these two Samsung S90D? S90DATXXU (QD-OLED panel) and S90DAEXXU (W-OLED panel) ? I'm in Switzerland and I don't know which one we do have. I am not sure we do have the choice actually.
Hey about the build quality, in the rtings review of the s90c it say that the panel is slightly bowed like the s95b and it can worsen if the tv is lifted reapetedly. does that also happens over time if wall mounted? What about full motion mounts and mantle mounts? (Up and down mounts)
I wish you would have compared the upscaling. Between the three. Many people simply stream h
Hulu and Netflix, etc.
When will the Sony a95l will go on sale if at all.
Probably never 😢
I had the A80l sony OLED for a few months using it for watching movies and playing games and have the Samsung S90D and i can say i like the Sony
Oh really? I currently have the a80l Sony oled and am considering trading it in for a s90D. Why would you say the a80l is better for you?
The s90d has some kind of processing problem. When watching movies the tv blurs out faces with this blue white mess and it ruins what your watching. Could be the new update or i don't know what i'm doing, i don't know. The sony menu i like better for sure the samsung is horrible. The samsung has a good picture and color but sony has more of a well rounded processing. My A80l got broke so i bought s90d becuse i wanted a different brand other then Sony, now i see why Sony cost more it's a better tv for sure
Did they fix the Game mode brightness issue on the C4 with the latest 23.20.35 update?
Out of curiosity, if a soundbar supports dts but the tv does not, will dts audio play anyway?
DTS audio would not play from that TV's native apps or any media device when connected directly to the TV.
But you can still get DTS audio by connecting an external media player that supports DTS (like a Blu-ray player or streaming device) to the soundbar, then soundbar to the TV. As long as the soundbar can support VIDEO PASSTHROUGH to the TV, you'll get DTS audio.
I’ve been arguing and wrestling with the LG menus. Spend an hour calibrating the TV, turn it off and come back and the setting have changed.
Which one has the best sound? I dont always want to turn on my whole HT system to watch something so I prefer a tv that has decent sound.
Sony for sure. Accoustic surface
I'm torn between lg g4 s90d and lg c4 and Bravia 8 like s90d but I like the processing lg g4 but the cost is insane
Try to get access to the LG partner store. I got a 65” G4 with free soundbar system for 2k.
@@markstorts8303 processing only works on low bit rate 480i and below content. Anything higher than that and all TVs will do excellent. Are you still watching old reruns of MASH?
Out of all
Of those 3 are the same tier, the Bravia 8, c4 and S90d.
The G4 is the next tier up. I would say def go there if you can afford it lol.
@1890Orsy how does it hold up if u game alot watch tv?
Is there ever going to be a qn700c review? The 55 inch is mega cheap here in the UK but I cant find enough info to take the leap :(
Panasonic Oleds vs LG...love to see this comparison hopefully your team can get some acquire some panasonics oleds
Goodbye LG, Panasonic's image processing is Hollywood.
Maybe I have Samsung fatigue from all the easily broken Galaxy S phones I've owned. But Samsung needs to respect their customers and industry standards. They also need to have a simple solution for operating 2 Samsung TVs right next to each other. At this point I have 4 different brands in my sports bar living room. I replaced an 8500 plasma with the Sony because I use the ATSC 3.0 tuner a lot for local news and sports. I also like the Netflix calibrated mode. Netflix and chilling is always best with proper calibration.
I’m considering the S90C Samsung as its the best value but I am worried about the soap opera effect and if that’s disabled, there is stuttering for 24fps movies. Is this true?
Abby I don't know if it's just me but I Falling in Love 😍
Sadly I missed a recent LG sale where they sold the 65 inch G4 and the dsg10ty soundbar for a combined price of 2100€ or roughly 2300$ including all taxes.
Yeah... I almost got the Samsung S90D; then I saw a bunch of image motion issues in-person and picked up the Sony instead. Videos online can only do so much. Go stand in Costco / Best Buy for a few hours looking at exact same content on the different screens if you want to really choose. Be careful with that -- a lot of TV demos do mostly camera pans for motion -- really watch for specific game and movie / sports humans in motion. You'll see for yourself.
If you’re going to judge off the Costco feed and see them side by side, it’s important to note that Costco employees set up the TVs themselves and the settings are going to be varied. The “motion issues” you described don’t exist outside of aggressive out of the box eco, standard, and dynamic modes and can be turned off or adjusted inside these modes. If you look most sets from all brands are set up in a basic mode with motion interpolation all the way up which exacerbates artifacts in poor feeds like Costco built in feed and sometimes their own demo content.
Same. Compared S90D and C4 in European shop. S90D was so blurred in fast moving content. No 3d effects in games.
So... some questions for the HDR loremasters:
Say I want to watch a Dobly Vision movie in my Samsung S90D, will it:
- Be played as an unknown HDR format and look all messed up
- Be played in SDR
- Automatically fall back to HDR10 or HDR10+ (if yes, does this depend on if the video file has the required fallback metadata?)
- Automatically tonemap to HDR10 or HDR10+ during playback (if yes, will this look worse than native HDR10/HDR10+/DV?)
No picture quality difference
@@Jodez23 compared to what? The same footage in a proper DV display?
It will fallback to HDR10 and use its own dynamic tonemapping (DTM) which can often be disabled if you want to see the difference. It is my understanding that DTM has come far enough that DV isn't as important as it used to be, but if you want tonemapping that is more accurate to what was intended it is still going to be the preference for many people.
What about the s90d without qd pannel?
except the s90D seems to have logic board problems. We had two 77in S90D display TVs die after a week or 3.
Hey RTINGS, Can you check out the latest firmware update 23.20.40 on the G4? Apparently it bumped up the brightness output pretty significantly.....
Funny how no push back for dolby vision like I looked on samsung website on the oled and barely any mention of hdr10+ that Samsung promotes
Because Dolby Vision is the premium Dynamic Metadata HDR that many streaming and especially disc based content is mastered with as an option to HDR10 static. HDR10+ in content count is much much lower in adoption and application on premium content.
@@Assyrianair4orce and DV is a joke and not necessary for high end Oleds like these.
@@trewright1482 name a movie u ever watched in a movie theater that has hdr10+
@@Assyrianair4orce HDR10 is the default for Samsung and its just as good and bright and colorful as DV if not more. You can't tell the difference and has been proven by many in the TV industry...
I honestly believe that the Micro Leds Displays Televisions Technology 📺 is truly a better types of products with less degradation image quality 👌. The QD-Oled or the WRGB Oled Organic Material Televisions Displays Technology uses Organic Compound Material Products which degrades over time retention in the image quality of each Organic QD-OLED or the WRGB Oled Televisions 📺 Displays Technology.
How does the C4 compare to the w-oled version of the S90D; or indeed the S90D w-oled vs qd-oled?
If it's both woled go LG
You should review the new OLED Sansui TV, I think it might beat other mid-tier OLEDs when it comes to price
Price and literally nothing else
@ have you seen it be discussed somewhere, I’m really curious
@@clivematthews95 did you decide to get it? it's 600 bucks currently and it uses an LG B3 or B4 panel, can't remember which. It has less brightness than the LG models but I mean 600 bucks.. cheapest I've seen an OLED at that size
Did the Bravia 8 HDR brightness improve after the recent update?
Anyone else having a static sounding issue with the Bravia 8 while using a PS5? It is so annoying and I feel like they aren’t any closer in fixing this issue
Just installed my Bravia 8. If you are a gamer, go Samsung, budget go LG, if you love movies, operating system and Quality the. Go Sony.
I could get 55 inch S85D for about 950$ in my country now, the next cheapest OLED is LG B4 for 1250$. I've seen the reviews and LG is a bit better at everything but surely for this price I should get the Samsung right?
yes
I am in market to buy a tv prefer 65” for bright living room. Please please please advise.
Lg G3 or G4
@@davelaymon6282 I just bought lg c4 hope that’s works out
Just ordered the S93D (same as S90D I think) 65" from costco for £1125, with £150 cashback - £975
Huge difference between the s90D and s95C?
Not at all. very close and both are phenomenal TVs
@@jrmcdonald821disappointing TVs* unless heavily discounted.
@@devinmurray5280 You must not own one of these beauty's...
@@jrmcdonald821 of course I don’t I actually know about TVs lol. I wouldn’t even like one for free with all the issues it has. It would drive me insane. I’ve been using a Samsung made QDOLED panel long before you lol. As I am using the first device to use them, the Alienware aw3427dw. The samsung panel is great. It’s the reason why the Sony A95L made such a great TV. Problem is Samsung isn’t great at making TVs. They haven’t made anything decent for the time current times in over half a decade ago. Haven’t made the best TV in at least 10 years. Usually I recommend Panasonic and Sony if you want the best, next best thing is a LG oled. Samsung is more getting eaten alive by TCL and Hisense because they’re value volume over quality. Like getting a burger at McDonald’s.
they basically the same out of the box but if you do mods them (play in the service menu voiding the waranty) the s95c can get brighter from what i've read s90d will top at 1500nits while s95c will top at 2000nits. I've bought s90d and out of the box it is already bright enough tho. some people had issues with the s95c because of the connect box, s90d it's all built-in so better chance to avoid the problems
Can anybody explain me the difference between the N90D and the S90D modell from samsung?
And what the better choose is?
QN90D is a LCD/LED TV
S90D is a OLED TV
.....two different panel technologies
@@TheBucsAnthem got it. Was confused because of the link. I think the linked the wrong model for a while. I was out of the the TV Gane for a couple of years. Last thing I now OLED was just that. Now there is WOLED and QD OLED. Can you help me out here too?
@ericebling2099 W (white) OLED is old legacy technology for OLED TVs that pushes a greenish tint to the panels and colors. QD (quantum dot) OLED is the newest technology for OLED TVs that pushes a magenta tint to the panels and colors. The majority of the time you won't notice the greenish or magenta tint unless you look for it or the processing for panel is subpar or the panel has some issues. Both OLED technologies are great, but Quantum Dot OLED TVs generally have brighter colors and more saturation than WOLED Tvs. I wouldn't base your TV buying decisions off of any TV technology but rather the reliability of the TV manufacturer and what your eyes prefer. .....and Don't let anybody on these youtube channels tell you one technology is better than the other either......most of the youtube influencers have hidden agendas and never speak the honest truth about flaws in TVs........just my 2 cents
I Just bought the s90d and it came with a noticiable hoinzontal y vertical banding. This is normal ir u should return it?
That is not normal. QD OLED is usually the cleanest panels available, period. You def have something wrong with your panel
Do you share your Samsung s90d picture settings? Can't afford a pro. Thank you!
77 inch S90D in Australia is W-OLED. in this case should i buy the C4 or the S90D?
Can someone tell me which tv is better? Samsuns S90 D or Sony A80L. I'm using it for streaming (prime, UA-cam) and some music + normal tv programs. Both would be 55. Sony cost 1299€ and the Samsung 1099€. I don't know a lot about the Sony one. Can someone help me, if its better and worth the more price?
For what your using the TV for I would go with Sony. If you were going to be going gaming movies and other streaming content aka Hulu ECT I would go S90D. Both tvs are good.
Bought lg c4 and extremely satisfied
Too dim for me
Yea umm I didn’t set my 77 C4 in the middle of my backyard but even with a big window in my living room, it’s bright enough. Great tv
I bought a Bravia 8 it'll be my first time using a 4K TV.
S90D in my country uses the woled panel in nearly everything apart from 65inch
To me, it seems like the LG is the pick of the bunch here. Feature set wise, it isn’t as compromised as the others and picture quality differences seem barely negligible.
That’s how I see it too.
They had the s90d next to the c4 at Sam's club and the c4 could definitely holds it own
They had the color turned up too high on it, but the overall processing seemed better on the LG and the blacks looked deeper, everything popped more due to the glossier coating
Reflection handling was noticeably better on the s90d though and it's colors looked very accurate.
It was one of these cant go wrong with either type of situations.
Best I saw there no question was the 77inch c4. I'm sure it was the mode it was in, but it was gorgeous. Just ridiculous color and black levels and overall luminance. So it's def a very capable tv with the right settings
Can we have the comparsion between the s90D WOLED panel and LG and Sony WOLED panels please?? We know QD-OLED is fricking amazing but Samsung deprived S90D in 77 inch of QD-OLED panel and instead has WOLED panel. So lets compare WOLED panels between these 3 TVs
In what market are you? My intel says 77 S90D is QD-OLED in U.S.
@@kevincarr2518 Australia
We love you abby ❤
Thanks rtings
I have a CX. How big a quality/brightness jump would I see going to a C4? Really debating whether to get a 77 G4 or an 83 C4. Thanks!
It's a good jump. I have a c1 and I was real surprised at how good the c4 looks with the right settings.
Noticeably brighter. For my money I think I'd rather have size having seen how good the c4 can be.
Can you make a comparison video of b4 vs s85d?