Why do people like the Krieg?

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  • @Halogeek-zq7yr
    @Halogeek-zq7yr Місяць тому +672

    Fun fact about the Steel Legion Death Korp comparison, the Death Korp started out as an alternative paint scheme for the old Metal Steel Legion models

    • @epiceg9464
      @epiceg9464 Місяць тому +99

      Now the steel legion are the alternative paint scheme for kreig. Yarrik is rolling in his grave

    • @Matt-md5yt
      @Matt-md5yt Місяць тому +12

      Yep

    • @Averybritishbear
      @Averybritishbear Місяць тому

      Good to know thanks

    • @Papazulu96
      @Papazulu96 Місяць тому +16

      Games workshop still sells Armageddon steel legion model, they have never been updated.

    • @somerandomguy227
      @somerandomguy227 Місяць тому +8

      That's a neat fun fact. Didn't know that.

  • @DonQuote
    @DonQuote Місяць тому +361

    I like krieg because they don't have faces, cause faces are hard to paint 😂

    • @vxicepickxv
      @vxicepickxv Місяць тому +24

      You see, this is the real answer.

    • @INSANESUICIDE
      @INSANESUICIDE 24 дні тому +1

      Valid argument

    • @huntermckee2279
      @huntermckee2279 24 дні тому +6

      There’s no such thing as a hard face to paint. Every face is unique, so like a bob ross painting, nothing but happy little accidents that become key parts of the piece.

    • @INSANESUICIDE
      @INSANESUICIDE 24 дні тому +3

      @@huntermckee2279 I don't know man, I have seen some unintentionally horrifying faces🤣

    • @mitchbarton4921
      @mitchbarton4921 21 день тому +1

      YES!

  • @dontgetmarried
    @dontgetmarried Місяць тому +579

    "Sir, we're surrounded!"
    Cadian: "then we fight to the last man!"
    Catachan: "then we can't miss!"
    Kreig: "good."

    • @Tigran-Abazyan
      @Tigran-Abazyan Місяць тому +40

      Mordian: Retreat to more strategic position
      Elysian: Hah lets jump boys!
      Pretorian: Time to make this position a meat grinder for them lads!

    • @user-vu8ck7tq4v
      @user-vu8ck7tq4v Місяць тому +14

      Mordian is more like we are ordered to hold here and we WILL hold here their thing is good soldiers follow orders even bad ones ​@@Tigran-Abazyan

    • @ssjjshawn
      @ssjjshawn Місяць тому +11

      ​@@Tigran-AbazyanMordians are one of two Brigades that are more hardcore "do or die" than even the Kriegsmen.

    • @ancogaming
      @ancogaming Місяць тому +20

      Cadian: "Very good, so we can attack in every direction!"
      Catachan: "Those poor bastards!"
      Krieg: "And in other news, water is wet."

    • @Tigran-Abazyan
      @Tigran-Abazyan Місяць тому

      ​@@ssjjshawn my bad. Didnt know that.

  • @Volnas97
    @Volnas97 Місяць тому +369

    It's all doom and gloom as usual, until Kriegsman asks you "Are you my mummy?"

    • @alphatyrant8677
      @alphatyrant8677 Місяць тому +18

      Did anyone else hear a TARDIS reading this?

    • @osmosisjones2822
      @osmosisjones2822 Місяць тому +5

      Go to your room

    • @Volnas97
      @Volnas97 Місяць тому +4

      @@osmosisjones2822 MUUMMYY!

    • @eee6894
      @eee6894 Місяць тому +13

      ​@@osmosisjones2822 go to your trench*

    • @CommissarChaotic
      @CommissarChaotic Місяць тому +2

      Why did I... mentally read this in the War3 Goblin Sapper voice... Now it feels funny imagining Kriegers with goblin voices...

  • @thegman117619
    @thegman117619 Місяць тому +312

    I always saw Krieg as more *willing* to die than *wanting* to die.
    Theyre analytical in the same way the Iron Warriors are. They can look at a battlefield scenario, calculate the number of men needed and number of men they are likely to lose, and then draft plans accordingly and execute them.
    So will they always charge trench lines full of machine guns and autocannons? No, not really.
    Will they charge a trench line full of machine guns and autocannons if it means their grenadier units can slip in to said trenches while the enemy is occupied with the charge and cause absolute havoc? Most certainly.
    Kriegers know what it means to *spend* lives to the utmost efficacy as soldiers. Every soldier who dies died doing their purpose towards the greater objective 100% of the time kind of deal.
    Hope that makes sense I am dealing with some MAJOR sleep deprivation right now xD

    • @Gibbons3457
      @Gibbons3457 Місяць тому +24

      This is the impression I got from them.

    • @albusvoltavern4500
      @albusvoltavern4500 29 днів тому +29

      I read a post somewhere that the only thing worse to Kreig then not being willing to sacrifice your life for big E was to sacrifice your life frivolously

    • @iceicebabie
      @iceicebabie 27 днів тому +7

      I've been saying the same stuff about them for a long time. I really can't stand the "hurr durr they just want to die for absolutely zero tactical gain". Astounds me that people can discuss something, yet have such a shallow understanding of said thing.

    • @lordofgnomes1230
      @lordofgnomes1230 27 днів тому +12

      In the krieg book this is very plainly written out for you to see which is nice. One kriegsman seemingly kills himself to save a cadian, not really, his severed torso still surprised and knocked the ork over, where other krieg were instantly on it killing it. They have achieved the benefit of the hivemind without being one. SPOILER: The end of the book made me cry a little, it shows the current colonel in private take out a little keepsake, and breathing notably heavy saying "We do not forget". Every one of them is just someone fully accepting they are born to die and in their death drive forward good.

    • @gdhuertas07
      @gdhuertas07 26 днів тому +4

      Oh man. Kriegsmen vs Iron Warriors would be an amazing story.

  • @fidelfranco9234
    @fidelfranco9234 Місяць тому +341

    My guy, you forgot the badass WWI anesthetics.

    • @drxtale9446
      @drxtale9446 Місяць тому +27

      The ww1 GERMAN aesthetic. The Germies have always looked cool. (Other than that, yeah the other aesthetic look cool, please stop replying, I know what the ww1 uniforms look like).

    • @StickWithTrigger
      @StickWithTrigger Місяць тому +55

      @@drxtale9446weirdly enough krieg has alot of ww1 british aesthestics too

    • @dukeofmania6504
      @dukeofmania6504 Місяць тому +48

      @@StickWithTriggerAnd French

    • @strykerwaller3784
      @strykerwaller3784 Місяць тому

      Krieg is heavily German WW1 inspired, but elements of all the European powers at that time are implemented. Personally, no fit will ever go as hard as the Germans in WW2, but people tend to think any compliment of anything is an endorsement. In no way do I support that shit, but damn they did not have to hit such an aesthetic peak.

    • @tunguskalumberjack9987
      @tunguskalumberjack9987 Місяць тому +18

      And no trace of anesthesia anywhere…

  • @rochedl
    @rochedl Місяць тому +124

    The book Dead Men Walking is a great look at an outsiders view of the Krieg, the ending just makes you go wow.

    • @TheDementedMetal
      @TheDementedMetal Місяць тому +4

      Yes I just finished reading it! I’m surprised it wasn’t mentioned in the video:)

  • @LonesomeRhody
    @LonesomeRhody Місяць тому +83

    Steve Lyons did a great job depicting the Death Korps in his book Dead Men Walking. I've always seen the Death Korps as fanatic but not as cartoonishly over the top as people joke about in memes. I don't believe that the average Kriegsman WANTS to die, but that they are prepared to if their death contributes to the Imperium's overall victory. Like they wouldn't be looking for the faintest excuse to throw their life away but at the same time, they wouldn't hesitate for a moment to throw themselves onto a grenade if it meant saving the rest of their unit so that they could continue the fight for the Emperor. They embody the fatalistic ideas of 40k only dialed up to 11. They come from an extreme planet, travel across an extreme galaxy and fight extreme threats but they're just regular humans, and they have come to terms with that.

    • @mcarlinod
      @mcarlinod Місяць тому +9

      People think they are some kind of automatons that lack self preservation, but in reality they are just very zealous humans.

    • @Lickicker
      @Lickicker Місяць тому

      Thats probably the best way of putting it. As he said in the video, people, especially men, tend to romanticize self sacrifice, which is what the kriegsmen are all for. I mean thats kinda the role most men play in society is as a buffer for women and children. I work at a factory so my family doesnt have to. The kriegsmen are just the absolute extreme of that, jumping on grenades so their fellow soldiers dont get hit by shrapnel or getting shot at so others can sneak around and flank the enemy. Theyre all 110% committed to being that guy everyone tells fond stories about when the wars over.

    • @abysswatcher9172
      @abysswatcher9172 20 днів тому +1

      ​@@mcarlinodYeah people seriously forget how fanatical just regular humans cab be

  • @NeumaghAnon
    @NeumaghAnon Місяць тому +52

    I was annoyed at them until they showed up in Warriors of Ultramar, but expecting 40K fans who screech about Krieg to actually read 40K novels is too much to change the memes

  • @MrBenMcLean
    @MrBenMcLean Місяць тому +70

    You completely skipped over the most important aspect of the Death Korps of Kreig: The name. Truly, no military force has ever been named more faithfully to an edgy high school death metal band from the 2000s.

  • @LifeofSquidMann
    @LifeofSquidMann Місяць тому +65

    Because dudes in gas masks and old looking gear are cool asf next question

    • @goransekulic3671
      @goransekulic3671 Місяць тому +4

      What about Steel Legion?

    • @LifeofSquidMann
      @LifeofSquidMann Місяць тому +4

      @goransekulic3671 Of course. They're the OGs after all.

    • @sheepfly
      @sheepfly 25 днів тому

      ​@@goransekulic3671more than one thing can be cool

    • @abysswatcher9172
      @abysswatcher9172 20 днів тому +1

      ​@@goransekulic3671They're the WW2 to the Kriegers' WW1.

  • @katathoombz
    @katathoombz Місяць тому +81

    Having worn a gasmask blessedly few times I know I do not like them but in the most practical of senses.
    Happy gasmask noises, on the other hand...

    • @K20_EM1
      @K20_EM1 Місяць тому +6

      We all know ow you were smoking weed through it 😂

    • @katathoombz
      @katathoombz Місяць тому +4

      @@K20_EM1 naaah, just teargas - but thanks for the sentiment :'D

  • @rpnewlin1221
    @rpnewlin1221 Місяць тому +62

    3 words: gas mask horses

  • @prg_astro
    @prg_astro Місяць тому +74

    my answer: they're just lilttle guys, little fellas having a blast, little silly guys doing what they love

  • @Briggattonii
    @Briggattonii Місяць тому +40

    I think the Krieg shovel meme came from actual history. I’ve seen apocryphal stories about stormtroopers and red army soldiers of both world wars using their entrenching tools as emergency melee weapons during charges and raids, and since the Death Corps is based on mid-century attrition warfare, people just made that connection.

    • @Direwolf1771
      @Direwolf1771 Місяць тому +21

      Not apocryphal I’m fairly sure. I think there’s actual field manuals about using your shovel as a weapon and I know plenty of WWII vets would tell you about why they sharpened their shovels. Heard them myself.

    • @LexYeen
      @LexYeen Місяць тому +6

      The thing people forget about humans is,
      We don't strictly need _dedicated_ weapons. We just need a big enough weight on a long enough stick. And what is a shovel, but a weight on a stick?

    • @stuglife5514
      @stuglife5514 Місяць тому +10

      During WW1, the entrenching tool was a superbly common weapon. German stormtroopers would often go out with a shovel, a pistol, and a bag of grenades. It was common doctrine to sharpen the ends of your shovels as a makeshift axe. It wasn’t as common to restort to your shovel in WW2, but was still common practice to sharpen your shovel.

    • @Briggattonii
      @Briggattonii 29 днів тому

      @@Direwolf1771 I called it apocryphal because I don’t have a source from where I heard it, if you could post the name of a primary or secondary source about shovels as improvised melee weapons during the world wars that’d be great
      Thanks in advance

    • @Zennsunni
      @Zennsunni 26 днів тому +4

      They trench shovel were designed with the ability to be used as weapons in mind, it was very much intended

  • @nate742
    @nate742 Місяць тому +140

    Hot take:
    Krieg is one of the rare instances where the fan base probably did more damage to the image of the setting than GW, though probably more incidentally than deliberately. Krieg certainly fits snuggly into the overall grim dark aesthetic of 40k, sometimes almost too well. It’s that uncanny valley between parody and pastiche, where something is treated so seriously in the setting it ends up being ironically memed. Probably the reason that Steel Legion is still pretty well regarded without any excessive gags, they have that grim dark element but they have that little extra wiggle room in their persona that gives them that depth that Krieg often lacks beyond their aesthetics. Hell even Catachan, a concept seen as little more than an army of Rambo/Commando/Predator parodies, doesn’t feel nearly as lampooned as Krieg does.

    • @Matt-md5yt
      @Matt-md5yt Місяць тому +15

      Agreed memes pretty much control what is what

    • @Minority119
      @Minority119 Місяць тому +27

      I remember how originally the krieg were not suicidal and reckless, to the point that in one battle they were retreating and nearly shooting a commissar so they could go back, not to escape, but to adopt a better position and drive enemies into killzones

    • @thomaswright4387
      @thomaswright4387 Місяць тому +52

      @@Minority119 They never were suicidal is the thing. The whole "Kriegers are suicidal" meme stems from the idea that people cant tell fanaticism and zealotism from being suicidal. They arent seeking to be killed in battle, they're seeking the opportunity to redeem themselves in battle in the name of the God Emperor. Its just that their fervor is so intense it makes the Sisters look tame in comparision

    • @cryamistellimek9184
      @cryamistellimek9184 Місяць тому +28

      40k memes and their consequences have been an disaster for the warhammer community.

    • @Dap1ssmonk
      @Dap1ssmonk Місяць тому +11

      @@cryamistellimek9184bricky and his consequences

  • @chainsawsubtlety9828
    @chainsawsubtlety9828 Місяць тому +13

    Refusing to say "Catachan" correctly?
    A bold choice.

  • @xenon3990
    @xenon3990 Місяць тому +14

    From my point,steve Lyons Version of krieg, especially in Dead men walking, is the „correct“ version of their portrayal. They are grim and fatalistic, humans but without true „humanity“, all they have is the war. They’re not grimderp zealots that run into minefields to clear a path for tanks and who die in droves for no reason like lemmings. They act like an army that knows only war and hasn’t been changed for ages. Kinda like WW1 veterans on the front. They treat lives as currency but unlike the iron warriors, they spend them wisely and usually don’t throw them away. The quartermasters also represent this, grantig the emperors peace and all.

  • @boxfoxscoot1614
    @boxfoxscoot1614 Місяць тому +93

    JIN RO WOLF MENTIONED!!!!!!!!

    • @Lock_Knight
      @Lock_Knight Місяць тому +1

      "We are wolves, disguised as men."

  • @_Kreig
    @_Kreig Місяць тому +13

    I’ve always interpreted Kriegsmen not as wanting to die but simply not caring if they do, they’ve always been shown to be efficient in the stories I’ve read so it would make sense that they don’t much care if they die so long as the task was done to the best of their abilities, thus worth in the eyes of the Emperor.

  • @Cousin_Uli
    @Cousin_Uli Місяць тому +7

    Lots of people pretty cool with dying in their teens for the emperor, than working for 50 years for the CEO of Walmart.

  • @NightLordShadow
    @NightLordShadow Місяць тому +61

    When the Guard is Krieg. Idk haven't read the book :)

  • @ThatRatBastard
    @ThatRatBastard Місяць тому +5

    Hard times make strong kriegers. Strong Kriegers make hard times.

  • @reignbowsix
    @reignbowsix Місяць тому +37

    i think i can summarize the reason we like the death korps in one word: oldschool.

    • @johnramos8703
      @johnramos8703 Місяць тому

      What the fuck are you on about you hummonculus

  • @davidalejandro441
    @davidalejandro441 Місяць тому +6

    To me the thing that draws me into them is the idea of spitting in the face of the cosmic and warp horror of the universe. Of course many guard regiments have some of that to some extent, but I do definitely feel that the Kriegers would be the kind of people to just shoot the ascending chaos champion rather than let him go on with his monologue. Partially out of efficiency, but also because they won't give their enemies even an inch.

  • @oijosugay5864
    @oijosugay5864 Місяць тому +14

    i recently read the krieg book, knowing next to nothing about them as i went in, and boy are they near and dear to my heart today

  • @inductivegrunt94
    @inductivegrunt94 Місяць тому +20

    These guys are perfect soldiers, they do their jobs and they do them well. They may be cold and cynical heroes, but heroes none the less.
    They also got that oldschool WW1 aesthetic down hard. And their trench warfare, mass artillery doctrine is amazing.

  • @narutoxley
    @narutoxley Місяць тому +7

    They are the manifestation of the undominable human spirit!
    And the look cool af.

  • @proudkemalist1881
    @proudkemalist1881 Місяць тому +18

    I wish i was a kriegsman. Damnit I cant die for the emperor and atone for my sins.

  • @dankmemes7796
    @dankmemes7796 Місяць тому +5

    Every guy enjoys the thought of believing and fighting for something whole heartedly. A nameless soldier doing what he must , not for recognition but to further the cause .

    • @pessien8474
      @pessien8474 28 днів тому +1

      There is an odd sense of peace at the thought of dying with a purpose,

    • @abysswatcher9172
      @abysswatcher9172 20 днів тому

      Every guy can relate to the fantasy of sacrifing for something he genuinely believes in.
      Probably partly why people like Helldivers 2 so much.

  • @morgant.dulaman8733
    @morgant.dulaman8733 Місяць тому +25

    I remember giving a several paragraphs' long reply to this exact question, but in summary: Beyond the cult of sacrifice, my favorite part about the Kriegers is the ultimate sacrifice that their mindset has placed on their culture: they have in many ways become the perfect weapon to bring to bear against xenos, traitor, and heretic alike, yet for all that...they're ruined in just about any other function. They are weapons in the same way as their own lasguns, and would probably view surviving to what we'd call retirement age as an unthinkable nightmare scenario not only for the reasons mentioned above, but also because nothing about them is geared toward civilian life, and for both themselves and they're world, they make no effort to improve their lot except to one day earn the emperor's forgiveness for their forebears betrayal, all while presumably not knowing or caring that may have been welcomed back or skirted by unnoticed for doing much worse than kicking up a nuclear scenario on a single world.
    They are the Imperium in microcosm: through their sacrifice both in terms of lives and culture, they protect the greater whole for the sake of their empire, emperor, and species, but the cost is that at this point, it's difficult to say they're truly human anymore.

    • @tearex8688
      @tearex8688 Місяць тому +3

      yea i think you nailed it with this one.

    • @TheCuriosity8
      @TheCuriosity8 22 дні тому

      "Congratulations Kriegsman!
      You unit has successfully defended this holy shine, unfortunately your the only survivor we were able to pull out of the rubble. You were in a coma so long you missed Guilliman's visit to the shrine, but he left you this proclamation!"
      FOR MERITORIOUS SERVICE TO THE IMPERIUM OF MAN AND THE EMPEROR,
      REGIMENT 8,334,782 IS HEREBY DISBANDED AND ALL MEMBERS GRANTED 8 UNITS OF LAND ON AGRIWORLD 241 OF ULTRAMAR FOR USE IN HONORED RETIREMENT, EFFECTIVE IMMEDIATELY.
      MAY YOU PRODUCE BOUNTIFUL HARVESTS FOR MANY YEARS.
      THUS I DECREE, ROBOUTE GUILLIMAN
      ...
      ...
      "Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!"
      ...
      ...
      2 years later - overlooking a desolate stretch of prime farmland, a small figure is on his knees yelling at a hole
      "WHY WON'T YOU GROW!"

    • @Ratsixtyfour-ls5jj
      @Ratsixtyfour-ls5jj 18 днів тому

      Absolute yap session don’t care Armageddon better

  • @turefarwell920
    @turefarwell920 Місяць тому +8

    They is an upcoming siege of Vraks book from point of view of the Krieg. 2nd book in the krieg series.

  • @ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber
    @ChristianVonCarmian40kVtuber Місяць тому +5

    The first story in White Dwarf that included them was against daemons and had a crewman have their tank torn open by a Bloodthirster and the krieger "calmly" blew up the fuel and the tank

  • @mcmarkmarkson7115
    @mcmarkmarkson7115 21 день тому +3

    No fear, no special mutant powers, 100% badass, no plot armor!

  • @alexedwards3954
    @alexedwards3954 Місяць тому +3

    One thing to note about the kriegsmen. They are master siege fighters, so they will be good at preventing disease, to a certain degree , because diseases spread quickly in a siege, I am sure, this is technically headcannon, they would prevent disease. I don’t know.

  • @THATfishguywithfish
    @THATfishguywithfish Місяць тому +13

    9:00 in germany we call that a Klappspaten (folding spade)

    • @VallornDeathblade
      @VallornDeathblade Місяць тому +11

      "This is a Klappspaten. It klapps spatens."

    • @bauschaum2158
      @bauschaum2158 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@VallornDeathblade saying that makes you a klappspaten (yes, klappspaten is also an insult in german)

    • @VallornDeathblade
      @VallornDeathblade Місяць тому +4

      @@bauschaum2158 Worth it.

    • @INSANESUICIDE
      @INSANESUICIDE 24 дні тому

      Do you use it for clapping people as the name insinuates? Do you have different spades for gardening and are they thusly named?

    • @THATfishguywithfish
      @THATfishguywithfish 24 дні тому

      @@INSANESUICIDE Klappspaten are more like and outdoor thing.(when you already efficiantly clapped the person and need to bury him, but don't want to carry a full sziese one) We use normal spades for gardening and stuff like that.

  • @bubbadoom1837
    @bubbadoom1837 Місяць тому +3

    Back in the 90s I used to listen to G. Gordon Liddy's talk radio program on the regular. One day, he spoke about a buddy of his that was a Korean War vet. His nickname was "E-Tool." He got it because one day of fighting several waves of North Korean and Chinese soldiers, he ran out of ammunition. He ended up having to dispatch many commies that day, to the hereafter, with his short handled shovel.
    Every time I see Kriegsmen, I think of E-Tool.

    • @Sealdeam
      @Sealdeam Місяць тому +1

      In that very same war the soldiers of the only latinamerican country that sent men to fight, kill and maybe die in Korea, Colombia, had to make one or two banzai charges when they ran out of ammo, they did not use shovels or the katana of the samurais that gave origin to the term but their trusty machete, the casualities were horrible as expected but the sight of enemy soldiers being hacked to pieces had particular shock value that's hard to describe among the ranks of the enemy. I reckon Liddy's stories and anecdotes like the one above are the closest thing we can get to start to imagine the horror of being in front of Krieg charge, a wave of dead men trying to make you join the ranks of the unliving no matter what you throw their way.

  • @scottbruckner4653
    @scottbruckner4653 Місяць тому +4

    Honestly, when I look at Kreig and I look at their lore, they're a people who come from planet War and all they know is it, you can't send a Kriegsman to a peaceful operation because there's an underlying threat that he'll/she'll do something in their power to Fufil the life's purpose of a Kriegsman.
    The thing I like about them is that they're like the Iron Warriors of the Guard. Like if the Death corps. of Kreig was around in its current state during/before the heresey, They would have been the ones on the front lines of the H'rud war. Bar none.

  • @pateroon
    @pateroon Місяць тому +7

    Mordians mentioned!

    • @Tigran-Abazyan
      @Tigran-Abazyan Місяць тому +1

      Mordians are neglected or something mate?

  • @JamesTheLamenter
    @JamesTheLamenter Місяць тому +43

    Sometimes I think that the meme monkeys make the Krieger mindset as shovel obsessed self-ending crazy people.
    It's a example of Flanderising that I strongly dislike.
    The lore of the Death Korps are much more complex and cooler than just some lazy memes.

  • @hadesdogs4366
    @hadesdogs4366 Місяць тому +6

    Agreed for when it comes down to it it’s not a matter of simply being either equal or even outmatching the krieg either in technology or even numbers, but it’s trying to outmatch and outperform them in terms of efficiency which has even left the cadians stunned in surprise when you consider that a cadian soldier has seen everything from the boobs of a Slaaneeshy demonet to an ork charging them, only to be utterly shocked to see what a single company of kriegsmen can do in under half a day where in less than half a day, they were able to build, interlocking trench networks, dugout artillery positions and supply depots as well as living and sleeping accommodations in less than half a day and again the death korps of krieg are basically the human version of the iron warriors, where again, their own wellbeing or even suffering is considered pretty low on their priority list and whilst the favorite memes of them being go happy shovel wielding fanatics who are suicidal, which is kinda true but much like the typical memes and peoples ideas of say the salamanders is that whilst they may seem like ((shovel wielding religious suicidal maniacs)), they are pragmatists to a fault, if say an enemy were to invade the frontlines of their trenches, they’d happily call in an artillery barrage about ten meters in front of the main trenches even if it means killing the odd few of their own soldiers, because if say the death of a hundred soldiers were to result in the deaths of ten thousand enemy combatants then their ((sacrifices)) would be considered ((not in vain)), and so again whilst their suicidal tendencies tend to be overshadowed or memed a lot, it’s not that they don’t dislike the idea of suicide or sacrificing oneself it’s the fear of a meaningless sacrifice which is what scares them as well as drives them to doing such acts of what would be described as sheer stupidity, but when both death and their faith is the only things they truly value in life as well as the lives they love at home, then as long as their deaths not only redeems them for their ancestors shames, but it also protects those who he loves, because to them as a character from the book krieg once said
    Krieg is it’s people, the people who inhabits a floating rock in space is what makes the krieg but its its people that makes krieg what it is.
    And again whilst we tend to conflate their acts of sacrifice as suicidal, but in reality for them, sacrifices ensures that the people at home stay safe and protected, through the sacrifices of ones time, energy, effort and even ones life can mean that many others behind them can remain both safe and loyal to the emperor and that sacrifice could mean anything, be it a workers time and energy to building more guns or tanks, to arising themselves in order for millions of others again what is the life of one soldier, one squad, one regiment, one hive city or even one world when the cost is too great, krieg and the imperium would still exist.
    And that’s why for me I just love the krieg, an army of faceless nobody’s, who look cool 😂

  • @plaguefellow1499
    @plaguefellow1499 Місяць тому +4

    As a krieg player myself, its 100% the ww1 aesthetic

  • @tonee2es223
    @tonee2es223 Місяць тому +3

    One thing I interpreted from their novel, is that the kriegsmen aren't suicidal like memes would suggest. They are efficient soldiers who have an incredibly resolute understanding of their lot in life. They will be sent into dangerous combat scenarios where they will most likely die and they are ok with that.

  • @morc-at-arms8903
    @morc-at-arms8903 Місяць тому +1

    The masks with rounded eye slits makes them look adorkable.

  • @Zach_Bloomquist
    @Zach_Bloomquist 7 днів тому +1

    I had a large Death Korp of Krieg army (something like 4000 pts back in 2008 edition). Lots of Leman Russ battle tanks, infantry squads in chimeras and even a Stormblade. The stormblade rarely got used because of its overpowered plasma cannon which made battles less fun. I sold the army when I got bored with 40k in college and realized I was wasting thousands upon thousands on forge world resin stuff and needed to pay my bills and not get into debt. I still think they are a cool army and really liked painting and building the models.

  • @gonzalogonzalez2585
    @gonzalogonzalez2585 26 днів тому

    I literally just clicked on this video upon recommendation and immediately heard the music. I'm already hurt.
    Will continue video.

  • @bencolburn8234
    @bencolburn8234 12 днів тому

    I just gotta say, I love your casual approach to these topics. Easily one of my favorite Warhammer UA-camrs. Maybe just favorite UA-camrs in general. Great job

  • @dms-f16
    @dms-f16 20 днів тому +1

    One word: catharsis.
    They suffer on the behalf of the tormented parts of our psyche, so that we may see those parts and hopefully do better.

  • @Krieg-ch8ot
    @Krieg-ch8ot 29 днів тому

    The Korps got me into 40k. Being a history buff and military buff i was scrolling through youtube one day and saw these badass dudes with a clearly WW1 aesthetic and strange looking rifles went down the rabbit hole and somehow found there name and went further down the rabbit hole finding out about the universe at large. I enjoy all that is 40k now because of the Korps and there still my favorite guard unit.

  • @kylemackinnon5696
    @kylemackinnon5696 8 днів тому

    Baldimort put it best, the saddest part of their tragedy was that if he could speak to them the emperor would forgive them and weep for their pain

  • @flavortown3781
    @flavortown3781 Місяць тому +1

    Recognizable silhouettes, fairly interesting lore, trench warfare, artillery and ww1 has a cool aesthetic

  • @prodigalacea743
    @prodigalacea743 16 днів тому +1

    7:30 Fun fact: During a battle against the Nercrons they killed so many civilians and PDF troops for this the everyone on the planet turned against them

  • @richardvaldes3959
    @richardvaldes3959 Місяць тому +1

    That origin book was super hardcore too. Really enjoyed it

  • @PlushHIT
    @PlushHIT Місяць тому +1

    I always liked Krieg as a part of the setting, they're really develop on the ideas of what 40k is for me, partially because they are not the only part in 40k. I've been thinking about human side of 40k recently, about how one thinks about all things happening, how do they feel, and what I think would add up to krieg is the fact that they are still humans beneath the mask, practical, pragmatic, but still human with a certain level of compassion, not for themselves, but to those around. Of course they are brutal and can commit a few war crimes to those around, but not just because they are evil, but because they sincerely think they are helping people and in a setting such is 40k that might actually be the case

  • @LookHereMars
    @LookHereMars 28 днів тому +1

    I enjoy the Kriegers, most of all, simply for being one relentless, professional, extremely deadly, and stoic killing machines of an apology. They want the fight, wherever it is, against whoever it is, to the highest degree, the bloodier the battle, and the more dangerous the foe, the better, and they do this duty without question, all in order to atone to the Emperor for centuries old sins. They are ready and willing to face down every ugly and horror that the galaxy can throw at them, and relish it. Awesome.

  • @shadowwarriorshockwave3281
    @shadowwarriorshockwave3281 Місяць тому +2

    I just like the French German WW1 Aesthetic its pretty cool

  • @Bread-nx9fo
    @Bread-nx9fo Місяць тому +3

    I want new Krieg models very badly, Killteam for them was good, but I'm tired of the generic Cadian stuff

  • @ryansarafin12
    @ryansarafin12 16 днів тому

    If you want to know more about the Krieg than I would highly recommend the book "Krieg" it goes into how their world was destroyed and turned them into what they are now, filled with plenty of epic and heroic moments plus some really wholesome and sometimes tear jerking moments, great book

  • @gaidenblattner176
    @gaidenblattner176 7 днів тому

    “I just don’t care”
    Good choice putting that after the 1 minute mark. Even though I’ve paused and will not even see anything else you say, since I quit at 1:21 youtube will count it as a full viewing. Congrats

  • @exactinmidget92
    @exactinmidget92 Місяць тому +1

    dont know if you noticed that GW has flipped the lore for Krieg and Necrons. Krieg used to be "normal" and are now soulless automatons and Necrons used to be soulless automatons and are now "normal".

  • @NeocrimsonX
    @NeocrimsonX 27 днів тому

    Because everyone can appreciate a good shoveling

  • @Turnil321
    @Turnil321 Місяць тому +1

    When I think of the guard I also think of the Mordions, the blue uniforms are cool.

  • @stanisawzokiewski3308
    @stanisawzokiewski3308 27 днів тому

    Fantasies people have can be broadly devided into power fantasies and struggle fantasies

  • @moderndavinci6599
    @moderndavinci6599 Місяць тому +3

    I like them 'cuz they're cool. Simple as.

  • @rip9713
    @rip9713 Місяць тому +1

    When I first got into 40k I loved the happy gas mask krieg but after a few years now the Athonian Tunnel Rats has become my favorite now and they barely have any lore in 40k.

  • @shutdown199
    @shutdown199 29 днів тому

    Imagine loyalist iron Warriors with the death core working together.

  • @TornadoADV
    @TornadoADV Місяць тому +1

    Man talks about famous Imperial Guard archetypes, fails to mention Steel Legion, dies mysteriously in a freak accident from a Chimera.

  • @docwulff907
    @docwulff907 2 дні тому

    Remember, lives are the Emperor's currency, do not waste it.

  • @RawDogAnAeldari
    @RawDogAnAeldari Місяць тому

    Thank for mentionint steel legion lmfao their look is the reason I started paying attention to the guard (and Kasrkin)

  • @wotdefookbruv
    @wotdefookbruv 17 днів тому

    Knowing about the story of the Kriegsman reminded me of this poem:
    Do not stand
    By my grave, and weep.
    I am not there,
    I do not sleep-
    I am the thousand winds that blow
    I am the diamond glints in snow
    I am the sunlight on ripened grain,
    I am the gentle, autumn rain.
    As you awake with morning’s hush,
    I am the swift, up-flinging rush
    Of quiet birds in circling flight,
    I am the day transcending night.
    Do not stand
    By my grave, and cry-
    I am not there,
    I did not die.

  • @sumdudefromthemoon2401
    @sumdudefromthemoon2401 Місяць тому +1

    Yay! The "I'm Arther." part of the intro is no longer so sexually charged!!

  • @g.sergiusfidenas6650
    @g.sergiusfidenas6650 Місяць тому

    Currently reading Dead Men Walking, that book really nails the idea that the Death Korps are to civilians what certain Astartes chapters (Grey Knights, Flesh Tearers, Marines Malevolent) are to guardsmen or what the Legion of the Damned is to everyone else, certainty of demise, no hope for succour and with a quick end as the best possible outcome.

  • @nathanmontgomery8650
    @nathanmontgomery8650 Місяць тому

    For me it's a simple I like the aesthetic I have always been a fan of things taking inspiration from ww1 as its one of my favorite history subjects to read about.

  • @jordanpohl6856
    @jordanpohl6856 22 дні тому

    I think it is maybe the concept I have been pondering on what actually is virtue for men and the only thing I can really come up to is "expendability at risk" bravery events are always a soldier willing to risk themselves to lower risk for their colleges. Even the whole suffering long hours to take care of your family is signaling that I am willing to risk myself for who and what I value. Almost any kind of "excess" or negative character trait is always described in how in terms it inhibits our usefulness.

  • @LinTekKim
    @LinTekKim 15 днів тому

    I always liked them, because 1 they look cool, 2 grim determination, stoicism, and pragmatism in the face of unknown horrors of the universe, and that is something to be admired.

  • @themilitarumpainter
    @themilitarumpainter Місяць тому

    i'm currently making a deep dive into the history of krieg and where they came from, they have some really interesting early stuff!

  • @damianallen4964
    @damianallen4964 Місяць тому

    My intro to The Death Corp was Dead Men Walking. Still not over that one.

  • @desolation2438
    @desolation2438 Місяць тому

    Mr. Bones: "...I do not care."
    Me: And that's why collin always wins the debates.

  • @foolishsparky
    @foolishsparky 2 дні тому

    I like them not just because of their aesthetic, but because of how different they are from other guard regiments. To me, it's not that they want to die- but that they want to fight. They want to win no matter the cost. It's not death, it's sacrifice. Death is only meaningful if it means that it will ensure victory, so pointless losses are just that- pointless. Like you said, they're pragmatists.They're mortal men who are incorruptible in the face of chaos. That alone feels like a showcase of humanity's resilience. Even genetically perfect, tank-armored badass superhumans can be corrupted by chaos, but Krieg, normal humans, hold the line because loyalty, dedication, and duty are everything to them. It's one, small bright spot of hope in an otherwise terrible universe, that humanity might not be perfect, powerful, or infallible, but Chaos is not an all consuming blight. Humanity can stand against the coming storm without fancy technology, as long as they believe in their cause.
    Also, a side note, the mass-production thing is dubiously canon. It's speculated about, but it's in that gray area of canon because one book says "No they don't" where as one book says "yes they do" and then another book goes full throttle and says "actually they don't use artificial insemination, they just fuck *a lot*." That part of the lore I've always taken with a grain of salt because the way it's written and portrayed is "no one knows, no one will ever know."

  • @LowRentLefty
    @LowRentLefty Місяць тому +1

    I wish GW were able to use the Maccabian Jannisaries more often than not at all. I kinda prefer them to the Death Korps

  • @123mrdoom
    @123mrdoom Місяць тому +2

    I know I’m in the minority, but I prefer Elysian drop troops as my guard army, their aesthetics are top-notch.

  • @konstantinoskotsomytis2544
    @konstantinoskotsomytis2544 28 днів тому

    "Ok, all of you, wear your gasmasks 24/7!"
    Everybody puts their mask on.
    "Ok something feels still off. Oh yeah, everybody put your horses gasmasks too!"

  • @GardensAndGames
    @GardensAndGames Місяць тому

    It seems like people often miss the reference: the reason that people always talk about the Kroeg fighting with shovels is because of All Quiet on the Western Front; they discuss bayonets getting stuck, so fight with sharpened shovels instead.

  • @side1981
    @side1981 Місяць тому +1

    I bet you could kit bush a Death Korp model into being a Fallout Desert Ranger

  • @sircashew1097
    @sircashew1097 Місяць тому

    Hey! Love your videos! You happened to leave out a big reason why a fair number of people like the Krieg that I share as my primary reason for liking them. The Krieg aesthetic is based entirely off of WW1 specifically the French and the Germans. They are trench warfare experts that wear a French overcoat with German style gas masks and helmets (although it isn’t exact). Just wanted to point it out. Keep up the good work!

  • @Infinity_Coda
    @Infinity_Coda Місяць тому +1

    More Guard content let's goooooooo

  • @loomi1481
    @loomi1481 Місяць тому +1

    They really need to make some upgrade sprues or something for the cadians so you can make em a couple different regiments. I have your exact same preference for the Steel Legion, and really wish they got some modern upgrades

    • @sheepfly
      @sheepfly 25 днів тому

      No upgrade sprues, what they need are new models, all the regiments, maybe even a new one

  • @BrianHopson
    @BrianHopson Місяць тому

    The kriegs used to be my favorite imperial army, then i found out about the vallhalans from the Cain books and they've been my favorite ever since.

  • @gregthepeglegpregdreg
    @gregthepeglegpregdreg Місяць тому

    A helldiver would fit in well with a krieg squad

  • @Upsilon1984
    @Upsilon1984 Місяць тому

    It's the drip , alternative weapon, and vehicle models,

  • @sukmykrok3388
    @sukmykrok3388 Місяць тому

    They're the over eager little brothers of the Grimdark!

  • @madmandan1982
    @madmandan1982 7 днів тому

    ...because War, War never changes.

  • @hadesdogs4366
    @hadesdogs4366 Місяць тому +2

    In the book krieg
    And this is soilers so be warned
    In the book a small kill team of kriegsmen were sent to uncover a vault of hidden weapons where if they were to fall into the orks hands would spell disaster for the entire imperium and the world involved and so what happens is that they find the vault in which all of them elect to stay behind and guard the vault, however it is the oldest and senior of the kriegsmen who basically tells them that he has lived the longest and as served the longest at which point the other three kriegsmen all agree but choose to give him their rations as well as a few grenades allowing the one staying behind to stay a live a little bit longer, and so unfortunately later in the book it turns out that the orks had found the vault, in which the kriegsman blew the place up and as it turns out, the hidden weapons were nukes, resulting in the destruction of the entire hive and everyone and everything living inside and outside of it, only for the rest of the krieg army to be left relatively unscathed whist the withdrawing cadians suffered from burns and smog from the nuclear fallout, whilst the krieg were basically walking through the nuclear fallout as if they were on holiday, but again, compare that situation where you know someone has to be left behind such as say a cadian squad where they might fight amongst themselves as to who stays, vs the krieg where
    I’m the oldest and longest serving and I’m staying
    THATS IT

  • @MrTeddyTimes
    @MrTeddyTimes Місяць тому

    I never heard of the Death Korp. Until I saw a video titled Flower or something. Seeing that video made me like the Death Korp but I never got into 40k.

  • @platypus_slayer1
    @platypus_slayer1 Місяць тому +2

    I collect Kriegs woot killteam (and get prints cause no i aint paying 100 dollars+ for 5 deathriders) and their lore has been overdone and the memes are ridiculous. the older IA lore had them more or less ww1 in space with all the grim demeanor but they had limits. they almost broke on Vraks due to incompetence. they died in droves vs bezerkers in tunnels or plague marines. What made them fun was despite the failings, their sense of duty kept them in fights much longer. They were humans, just as many of our forefathers in ww1, in the most inhumane environments somehow still pushing on. Thats what made them the big heros, not the shovel suicide charges. but that they by the Big E were going to take that line because thats what must be done. They'd even insubordinate a bit not due to wanting to die, but when commanders were being squeamish in the face of casualties to do what must be done.
    Then GW and the community just flanderized them into oblivion. W/E tho, the best part of 40k is you dont have to take any lore at face value. My small detachment of the 987th expeditionary force pairs with my Valorous heart in the forlorn defense of its world in the Nihlus, determined to sell their lives to preserve what imperium and people remain and presevere in the face of the odds. Faith is eternal!

  • @PiemanPerkins
    @PiemanPerkins Місяць тому

    They look amazing and they are the easiest Guardsmen faction to paint. Buying a box of Cadians only to realize you'll have to paint 20 eyes will make you pine for the ease of a gas mask.

  • @Starcraftgamer97
    @Starcraftgamer97 28 днів тому

    I admit, I liked them for the memes but I appreciate them for their depth, aesthetic, and ability to get results. I still like the memes though

  • @darnokx9277
    @darnokx9277 Місяць тому

    Umm ackshually... another great video, well done!

  • @_underscore_6970
    @_underscore_6970 Місяць тому +2

    eyo another Steel Legionarie, I painted my Vet Guard as Steel Legion

  • @patrickiamonfire965
    @patrickiamonfire965 Місяць тому

    Man that anime brings memories.