@@daustin8888 Because you fucking turds wont stfu about what makes a "real" strong female character. You think women want to hear your stupid fucking opinion all the time why their mainstream heroes now suck? Even if they agree with you? Jesus christ.
That's because Ripley was written to be good, PERIODT. She didn't have to qualify her actions with "bcuz I'm a woman and girrrl pwer!! " or "I had brothers who taught me!" -- she takes a crappy job as a loader because she loses her license to do more prestigious work and then her crappy job as a loader actually comes in handy here. AND they didn't overdo it and make her a million times better than the marines because "magic woman power" -- she has to learn how to use a gun, learn how things work. Somehow James Cameron got strong women right in the late 80s and early 90s in a way that many people can't get right in 2020!
Because it was a completely original science fiction concept when it was released that was absolutely stuffed to the bones with amazing ideas and tons of science fiction afterwards was influenced by it--either directly or indirectly.
Always loved Apone's demeanor in this film. He's very pragmatic with a good sense of humor, and a get-shit-done attitude. A real leader. I wish he'd had more screen time, but what screen time he did have he absolutely stole and made his. Rest in peace Al Matthews, yet another larger than life personality immortalized in this classic.
Al Matthews was in the USMC for 6 years, and received 13 Decorations. He was perfect for Apone's role as he had the right leadership skills in real life.
It's a shame his proper military attitude got in the way. As far as I know, this was his only acting job. He was authentic, and directors wouldn't tolerate it. On the set, they had to NOT point guns at anyone just for him, threatening to jam it down their throat if they did.
His screen time can be seen across many films and media. Including video games. A very "cookie cutter" type role. Though I do believe his was one of the more convincing roles.
@starzic I tell you I have seen it. I'm not sure if it is still there, but it's spent years in an exibit on moive magic in the Seattle Science Center, a short walk from the Space Needle.
I like how this scene serves as establishing character moment for not only Ripley, but for Hicks and Apone too. Ripley is shown to not be content with sitting around and is eager to do whatever she can to help, Apone accepts her offer and shows that he doesn’t care if a person is a man or woman, he only cares for what a person can DO, and both Apone and Hicks are impressed with Ripley’s capable handling of heavy machinery.
I watched it again recently an noticed another superb little character detail: During Ripleys xenomorph briefing Hicks and Apone take her seriously, and when they're recommended to study the cd info, later on Hicks confirms he studied the data by noticing the acid burns and remarking it came from the xenomorph.
Compared to Burke, who's not seen from the initial briefing until the actual drop, Ripley is there, and wants to be useful. That earns the respect, and proves she's not simply a company man.
That loader looked like such a well worn or used piece of equipment that it didn't occur to me that it wasn't real when I was a kid. I love this kind of consideration put into the concept design.
I loved the worldbuilding aspect of Alien and Aliens in terms of the prop department. They really put effort in on even the subtle barely in shot stuff that sell the scene as taking place in a real location and time period. Alien had all the corporate logos on even the beer bottles, and old run down equipment showing the crew were pretty much just space truckers working on contract for shares, Aliens really looked like it could be Colonial Marines equipment with professional looking rifles and gear but also well used utility machinery and uniforms, apart from the Lieutenant who had an unnaturally pressed uniform signifying his lack of combat experience outside of simulations.
@@siler7 I was more referring to the consideration aspect of it, since Cameron used to work on effects he always micro-managed that end of things on set
Damn Ridley Scott and his ego with preventing Blomkamp from making a GOOD MOVIE true to the franchise. So true in fact that it was going to ignore abominations that came after Aliens (tbh i don't mind A3 but that's only because Resurrection was so much cancer that it made A3 awesome in comparison)
Michael Biehn is a great actor who never could make the jump to leading man - but James Cameron makes sure to cast him whenever possible. Same with Bill Paxton - he and Michael should have just shared a house, they could carpool to most of their shoots 😀
@@nolaanderson8770 I'm actually surprised he never casts Michael Biehn in Avatar. If Avatar was made in the 80's, Michael Biehn probably would have been Jake Sully.
@@nolaanderson8770 um James hasn't cast him since Abyss which was over 30 years ago. As far as I'm concerned he screwed Biehn over by abandoning him. It may or may not have had something to do with Biehn's alcohol problems.
@@LandersWorkshop Yeah it's so unfortunate, he was extremely talented and good looking. Google 'michael biehn alcoholic' and there's at least one short video of Michael talking about it, and a few articles. I've had major problems with alcohol myself so I sympathize
Because we are looking at the best of the best sci fi movie from the past era. There are excellent sci fi movies also like example Interstellar, Inception it's just that we have so many movies in our recent memory that makes it seem all the movies these days are shit. Wait another 10 years and see what I mean
Spartans never die, they're just missing in action. Sgt. Avery Johnson is based upon Sgt. Apone for the Halo franchise. I said Spartan because he was selected for the Spartan I project.
he took the Cigar Chomping for Career Advancement class that Schwarzenegger teaches. I walked into a cigar bar in Santa Monica, years ago, and they offer "humidor space" to rent - and Arnie's was in the center at eye-level, so everyone could see the brass nametag. The next space over? Jim Belushi 🤣 LOL I do not think so, Jim!
I love how Appone and Hicks look like two kids in a candy store when they see Ripley can handle the loader like a pro. These are clearly two men who are completely secure in their masculinity.
Two kids in a candy store? It's an interesting observation about secure masculinity. A yes and no from me. The 70s and 80s were the start of a culture of childish masculinity. Hedonistic. It's a questionable development still unfolding more and more leading to a more and more incapable base of society.
Real men and real women. A woman who has worked hard and a man who does not act like he is ashamed, instead he is grateful of her skill and willingness to help out.
imagine having character development that isn't a zero some game where the other characters have to be irredeemable shit for the sake of an arrogant "protagonist"
Best part of this scene is the way that it shows you how the loader works and functions. Zooming into the hand controls and the movements to make it feel like a real machine.
@@PetersaberHD Funny enough Caterpiller made the loaders. At a cost of 3 mills a peace. The problem is that it takes a large hydraulic's room to make them move. And pressure hoses liming there range.
@@warrmalaski8570 Are you talking about the loaders in the movie? Because they aren't made by Caterpillar. See here: ew.com/comic-con/2016/07/18/aliens-anniversary-oral-history/
Later on Hicks remarks about the alien blood melting the floor, confirming he was good enough to take Ripley seriously and study the disk data. Such cool little details.
The level of detail on the loader is nothing short of spectacular. All the controls look worn, like a real machine that's been in use for years. The most-used buttons have smooth spots worn into them. The pneumatics are banged up but clear where the moving parts are. It's just amazing.
Practical effects are far better than CGI, which I hate. However my jaw dropped when I saw "2012" with Oliver Platt and the world ended. The scope of the destruction on that was mind boggling and could have never, with infinite time and money, been done with practical effects.
No makeup, no sexy dress, absolutely practical clothing, no flirting... And she is more attractive and interesting than 95% of modern female characters.
This is character progression, foreshadowing, establishing of skills, great effects, memorable dialogue and a small victory to make you smile, all in one short scene. Will most likely forever be my favourite movie. 🏆
@@RogueRM Wow, you missed my point completely. Aside from foreshadowing the final battle, this is a key moment for the reasons listed above, not a "pointless throwaway scene". It shows her earning the respect of Hicks and Apone, and demonstrating her competence and willingness to roll up her sleeves and be pro-active. It's a vital winning moment for Ripley who until this point has been having a long string of frustrations and defeats.
I just LOVE THIS SCENE! It's the moment that Hicks falls for her, and I love the way Cameron was able to capture how sexy a capable woman can be to a guy in his prime.
I love this scene. 1) Ripley's request to help isn't demanding. It comes off genuine. Not about showing off being a female bad ass. It's about being a functional member and perhaps doing anything in her power to ensure everything goes well. 2) Doesn't shit on masculine men to make a point. The men are outwardly polite if a bit disbelieving at first. Perfectly natural. 3) Ripley actually demonstrates competence. Love the understated no fuss way she gets it done. Very attractive to me as a man. 4) The scene has a terrific payoff towards the end of the film when she battles the Queen. This is one way to write an incredible female hero. 👍
Good points. The film does take place centuries in the future where race and gender are no longer a big deal. Far more important: making money & killing bugs! ;-)
@@RobertWF42 One of the Marines is arguably bisexual :-). Private Frost: Hey, I sure wouldn't mind getting some more of that Arcturian poontang! Remember that time? Private Spunkmeyer: Yeah, Frost, but the one that you had was a male! Private Frost: It doesn't matter when it's Arcturian, baby!
One of my all time favorite scenes. Apone goes from nervous (is she gona wreck my equipment?) to laughing at the double entendre joke (Smart, good-looking, useful, and not lazy! I think I'm in love!).
This scene was so damn clean, let me count the ways. Ripley was mentioned to have gotten a job running power loaders in the scene where Burke came to recruit her for this mission. It shows Ripley's character because the only reason she got on to the power loader was because she didn't want to be sitting around doing nothing so A) She doesn't want to be a load and B) she's antsy because she knows there might be Xenomorphs down there and needs something to take her mind off of it, and finally it flawlessly sets up her knowing how to use said power loader in the finale battle. 👌👌👌 Perfection.
It also show's Ripley's nobility. Ripley was a high ranking officer in her former life. Ripley is an ambitious, capable, talented person that all her life has pushed herself to the top, that's why she got where she was. Life dealt her a setback but this scene shows how her inner nobility and talent will always come out, really fleshing out her back story with only one line of exposition: "I have a class 2 rating."
This is actually deeper than that. Ripley is an officer. A person used to give orders and mange other people. When se finds herself without a crew, she begins to manage herself like she's her crew. She finds a task that se can handle to be responsible for. It's not only attitude (I don't want to be idle) but mindset (someone is idle - me - and should be put at work because putting people at work is my job). This is very careful character design and understanding of human psyche that will develop gracefully in the rest of the story when Ripley starts to get more and more command duties and decisions when marines start to die.
@@3Rayfire It's also very realistic. I've seen this kind of people exhibit exactly that behavior many times. Hell, I've done it myself many times. That is EXACTLY what I would have done in the same situation, down to the forklift and the body language. It shows that the writers have an understanding of how real hierarchical workplaces function and "officers" or "managers" think and operate. Something that clearly is amiss in nowadays movie writing.
Looking back on this movie, this is likely when Ripley began getting respect from the Marines. Of the 2 civilians on the mission, Burke sits on his ass or whines the company line, Ripley digs in and helps prep the mission.
Then she hijacks the APC to save their asses, maintains composure when Hudson is flipping his shit, wants to learn more about the Pulse Rifle....everything she does is pretty much badass compared to Burke.
That's not a military rank though, is it? It seems to be a combination of air force/naval ranks applied to civilian commercial vessels. In the same way civilian naval vessels have captains etc.
NorfookianJesus i dont think it was exclusively a military title in this verse. Riply was apart of a star crew. They have captains and what not like a star trek vessel
Think of it as the merchant marine. In peace time, they haul cargo and civilians. In war time, they can be attached to the Navy to transport troops, materials, weapons, etc. So they need a rank system like the military. The only difference here is that Ripley had a private contract, not a government one, but with W-Y being so huge, it might as well be a national entity.
It's throwing the space marine's rude innuendos and double entendres (established in the galley scene) back in their faces. Without using a rude word, she's letting them know that they have nothing on her in bad-assery. That (not her proficiency with the loader) is what breaks Apone's reserve about her, which he duly acknowledges with his open and vulnerable laughter. It's a beautiful little scene, lovely acting all around (including Michael Biehn, who has little to do except pull faces).
I think they call that character development kevlar k 4. As for Sarah Connor didn't make him smile like that... are you sure? ua-cam.com/video/qxgVNxJMMiw/v-deo.html
One of the things I like about this scene is Ripley testing the functions of the loader during start-up, just like would be done on a forklift at any factory. Details matter.
same with operating any complex and potentially-lethal machinery, such as aircraft, tanks, firearms... there's always a pre-ops checklist as part of SOP. Heck, even civilian cars have one, but of course we ignore that in our day-to-day.
Good point. In my head, she's also adjusting the range of motion calibrations, and the sensitivity settings. Stuff that will come in handy during power loader kungfu.
Apone wakes up, immediately inserts cigar, begins barking orders. In this scene, he talks around it, until...she proves she's worthy, and he removes it out of respect. That's a master class in character.
Set up for the finale aside, i think whether intentional or not this scene plants the seed for Hick's trust in Ripley, this is the point he starts to realise that she isn't just some timid civilian who got scared by a bug
i gotta agree with you... Aliens was ground breaking ... one of the FEW times where the sequel really was better then the original and lived up to all the hype...and not just because of a bigger budget. They put more heart and soul into the movie. Ripley was and always will be the best female bad ass Terminator 2 also did this! and also had a 100% bad ass female lead in it Empire strikes back also did this! The Matrix movies did not and got watered down with each movie New Disney's Star Wars did not :( I did not even bother to go see rise of skywalker
@@jakejoker1988 you can't deny the influence of Aliens on literally every single sci fi and movies of other genres lol there's nothing bad about movie its technically good, well filmed, its not like high brow super cultured its a sci fi action movie but its a solid, memorable and influential film. that in itself is proof that it is a Great Movie, like saying citizen kane or battleship potemkin are bad because people don't watch them anymore when the techniques in those films informed film making afterwards. hell its like saying birth of a nation is a bad movie, while its reprehensible in its content it is the first real movie that wasn't just random vignettes or a single scene and had huge influence as well.
@@jzenhenko I can't believe you actually tried to compare genuinely good movies like Citizen Kane and Battleship Potemkin to B movie trash like Aliens. James Cameron makes movies that appeal to simple people. Aliens is lowest common denominator garbage that appeals to the same people who like Transformers and the Kardashians. The original Alien is a classic but Aliens flat out rapes and defecates on the original.
Literally the way the cigar is planted in his cheek, and gets shuffled around with the lips that are perfectly mustached-- "Be my guest." I SWEAR, best part of this whole movie besides, "LET'S ROCK!"
The scene awaking from cryo is amazing too: "A day in the Corp is like a day on a farm! Every meal is a banquet, every paycheck a fortune, every formation a parade"
drchen054 Because it shows in that moment he instantly began respecting Ripley. She wasn't just a normal civilian. She proved to be an honest working grunt like the rest of 'em.
@@valdie91285 He said please because he respected her but also because shes a civilian and civilians aren't obligated to follow orders like soldiers are.
The detail on the loader! Some crew of special effects folks really put in the effort to get the look of well-worn industrial equipment just right. The attention to detail is stunning- kudos.
I'd also say that the way she operates it at the start feels like she's following a pre-operation checklist - testing the range of motion of the lifter arms before actually engaging a load.
Sometimes it's the little details that make a scene work for me. Watching Ripley climb into the loader, strapping herself in and starting it up... I feel like it just adds so much.
One of the few light-hearted scenes of the movie, but a well deserved one to establish character development. Even to this day, watching this movie puts me on the edge of my seat!
People don't realise how much thought is behind every scene in this movie..For me, this one is priceless...no shooting, no scary monsters, just evolving comodetry between brothers in arms..with a smile 😉
True. People are such control freaks today. No open minds at all. That's why I could appreciate what Ridley Scott did in Prometheus and Covenant and so many others hated it.
@@LukeLovesRose Scott lost his mind with Covenant might as well have called the movie David 8 i do agree about Prometheus though covenant would have been better i think if they had explored the engineers origins more
i love those 2 gents laugh at the end and I love more how skilled Ripley was! such an amazing character. I keep on rewatching this movie maybe twice a year🤩 so amazing for a movie in that era💖👍
Such an incredible scene. Not only does it give us insight into Ripley's character and what kind of person she is, it sets up the scene at the end of the film with Ripley using the loader. An incredible use of 73 seconds of a movie.
His response of “I don’t know, is there anything you can do?” is what makes Apone a great leader. Show me why you’re here instead of wasting time talking about it and giving out busy work.
As much as I love Alien 3..... seeing moments like this make me wish I lived in a parallel universe where Alien 3 had all the original survivors make it and follow their story. Hicks was so goddamn likable because Michael Biehn is a gem that must be preserved.
Neill Blomkamp & Sigourney Weaver wanted to give us the exact kind of sequel you described. But Ridley Scott and 20th Century Fox (and Now Disney) didn't want it. Such a shame.
Note that he's not dismissive of her...he just doesn't know what she can do. So he asks to find out. She shows him. He gladly gives her an assignment. Imagine if that scene was written today by a "modern writer." "Is there anything I can help with?" "You best just sit down, little lady, and let the Marines handle this." "You think so?" Ripley strides confidently to the Loader, straps in, activates the machine, all the while maintaining eye contact with the two Marines, who glare back. Ripley walks forward with the machine, almost dancing inside it. Another loader is passing, but Ripley reaches over and takes the giant case right out of the other loaders hands! Another Male Marine Loader Driver: "Hey! She took my case!" Ripley strides back to Hicks and Apone triumphantly, the music swells heroically. She drops the case at their feet, and they jump back, startled. Ripley jumps out of the loader holding the keys in front of her. Ripley: "Guess nobody told you. I'm First Officer Ripley, sole survivor of the Nostromo." Ripley drops the keys into Apone's palm, then walks away.
A modern "strong female character" would have smirked at them at the end, instead of the truly strong "where do ya wannit?" with just a hint of a smile, saying "I'm competent," not "I'm showing you up." Ripley did not lose any femininity, and the men didn't lose any masculinity here. They realized she was very competent and not just an 'advisor', and they appreciated her skills. She didn't act like a stereotypical 'toxic' male and drop the box on their feet and flip them off. She proved herself capable, they were laughing at themselves, not at her, and they all grew closer because of it. Mutual respect, that's what it's about. Modern movies get it all wrong. Sarah Conner, Ellen Ripley, Eowyn, etc. They were strong women who didn't need to become men to be strong.
Rey: I'm a strong female character... Ellen Ripley and Olivia Benson: Return to your school, kid, and return when you're a REAL strong female character like us.
One of the things I love about this movie is that it was able to show a strong female character, without bashing and belittling men in the process. It didn't shove woke, feminism in your face. Ripley was not a strong female because she was better than a man, she was strong because she was strong.
And all she had to do is prove she belongs by showing mastery of one thing. In under a minute. Not beat a guy clearly bigger and stronger than her. Not put some guy down by demanding respect she hadn't earned. "What can I do?" "I don't know, what can you do?" *Does it* And that's all we need!!!
This was such a good flick...late 80's my brother and I had Aliens, Blues Brothers, and RoboCop on a VHS long play tape, and we would literally both wander in at some uncommon hour from our separate adventures, grab a late night/early morning snack, put the tape in, and watch...repeat the next night wherever we left off...get to the end, rewind and start all over...spent a summer or two doing this lol.
The scuff marks on the feet, and on the arms, the addition of the safety light, the simple un-adorned framework....my hat is off to that long-gone prop department. It looks like it should be walking around right now.
Still one of my fave scenes. Not just the "powerful woman" trope, but the way Ripley was so low-key about "I told you so" and the way the two extra-tough marines work right along with er makes it a feel-good moment in a movie full of tension... plus there's the amazing payoff later in the "Get away from her, you b*ch!" scene. :-)
A real strong female character. One of the best written ever. Ripley was a bad ass.
All the praise Ripley gets by "manbabies" has gotten her labeled a token by Woke Twitter
@@daustin8888 Because you fucking turds wont stfu about what makes a "real" strong female character. You think women want to hear your stupid fucking opinion all the time why their mainstream heroes now suck? Even if they agree with you? Jesus christ.
@@MasteroChieftan chill
That's because Ripley was written to be good, PERIODT. She didn't have to qualify her actions with "bcuz I'm a woman and girrrl pwer!! " or "I had brothers who taught me!" -- she takes a crappy job as a loader because she loses her license to do more prestigious work and then her crappy job as a loader actually comes in handy here. AND they didn't overdo it and make her a million times better than the marines because "magic woman power" -- she has to learn how to use a gun, learn how things work. Somehow James Cameron got strong women right in the late 80s and early 90s in a way that many people can't get right in 2020!
@@MasteroChieftan aliens released in 1986 is plainly awesome James Cameron made a masterpiece next to terminator 2 judgement day
I love how Apone says 'please' after she asks 'where do you want it', showing some respect.
you could see those 2 cheshire cat grins when she showed she could be one of the boys haha!!
Nice to see some naive kids in the comment section, but they grin and so mostly because it was a sexual reference...
@@НелиелОксингейл Not everything is a sexual reference.
@@modularmuse yeah, sometimes cigar is just a cigar. But not this time))
Also, he is military and she is a *civilian* lady. There have traditionally been proper manners for that situation.
why is every single scene in this movie so memorable?
Especially because this scene explains why she can use it at the end.
It's honestly my favourite Alien movie.
Because James Cameron is a genius.
Cameron isn't just a genius, he's a legend
Because it was a completely original science fiction concept when it was released that was absolutely stuffed to the bones with amazing ideas and tons of science fiction afterwards was influenced by it--either directly or indirectly.
God, the chemistry between the actors in this movie is SO good.
Cameron had them spending a lot a time together prior to filming.
It worked well...
@G E T R E K TYou secure that s***
Yeah, but It's a dry heat, Sarge!
Agreed! Especially evident with Michael Beihn’s character.
What nowadays every new tired netflix show lacks
Always loved Apone's demeanor in this film. He's very pragmatic with a good sense of humor, and a get-shit-done attitude. A real leader. I wish he'd had more screen time, but what screen time he did have he absolutely stole and made his.
Rest in peace Al Matthews, yet another larger than life personality immortalized in this classic.
That's because he was a fucking NCO, and that's what they do in the military.
Al Matthews was in the USMC for 6 years, and received 13 Decorations.
He was perfect for Apone's role as he had the right leadership skills in real life.
I wish he’d survived u til the second ambush, but I think his death really sealed the deal: they’re fucked; game over.
It's a shame his proper military attitude got in the way. As far as I know, this was his only acting job. He was authentic, and directors wouldn't tolerate it. On the set, they had to NOT point guns at anyone just for him, threatening to jam it down their throat if they did.
His screen time can be seen across many films and media. Including video games. A very "cookie cutter" type role. Though I do believe his was one of the more convincing roles.
I love how the loader feels like it was designed by an engineer, not just a visual artist.
Unsurprising as Cameron’s father was an engineer.
@@southlondon86 He's probably got one that he uses to unload his truck.
it really looks like a piece of equipment that actually exists
This machine really existed . It’s wasn’t design for the movie first. I remember it was forgotten because using too much energy.
@starzic I tell you I have seen it. I'm not sure if it is still there, but it's spent years in an exibit on moive magic in the Seattle Science Center, a short walk from the Space Needle.
I like how this scene serves as establishing character moment for not only Ripley, but for Hicks and Apone too.
Ripley is shown to not be content with sitting around and is eager to do whatever she can to help, Apone accepts her offer and shows that he doesn’t care if a person is a man or woman, he only cares for what a person can DO, and both Apone and Hicks are impressed with Ripley’s capable handling of heavy machinery.
Also it serves as maybe the best ever setup to one of the most awesome climaxes ever put on celluloid 😎🔥🔥🔥
Yeah I’m glad this didn’t wasn’t some kind SJW garbage we are subjected to today - it was just about everyone working together. God I miss those days
@@billygrey8087 If this exact scene came out today you'd be bitching about it as sjw garbage. Gtfoh.
You summarized it perfectly.
They sure don't make them like they used to.
I love how Apone says "please", showing she has earned his respect. Such a world class movie.
I watched it again recently an noticed another superb little character detail:
During Ripleys xenomorph briefing Hicks and Apone take her seriously, and when they're recommended to study the cd info, later on Hicks confirms he studied the data by noticing the acid burns and remarking it came from the xenomorph.
Love this part; Hicks and Apone are both classy enough to acknowledge that they sold Ripley short. And her little grin at the end is just perfect.
And it has nothing to do with her being a woman. Its that shes a civilian and assume shes a pencil pusher like gorman
Good character development... she can handle herself.
Compared to Burke, who's not seen from the initial briefing until the actual drop, Ripley is there, and wants to be useful.
That earns the respect, and proves she's not simply a company man.
Glad it came out in the 80'. Otherwise, someone might be offended claiming that it is some sort of plot to show men inferior or something xd
@@alexheisenberg8709 It'd be considered 'woke' if released today.
That loader looked like such a well worn or used piece of equipment that it didn't occur to me that it wasn't real when I was a kid. I love this kind of consideration put into the concept design.
That's one of Cameron's hallmarks.
Apparently people, TO THIS DAY, ask the Caterpiller company if they can have one! I wish it existed.
I loved the worldbuilding aspect of Alien and Aliens in terms of the prop department. They really put effort in on even the subtle barely in shot stuff that sell the scene as taking place in a real location and time period. Alien had all the corporate logos on even the beer bottles, and old run down equipment showing the crew were pretty much just space truckers working on contract for shares, Aliens really looked like it could be Colonial Marines equipment with professional looking rifles and gear but also well used utility machinery and uniforms, apart from the Lieutenant who had an unnaturally pressed uniform signifying his lack of combat experience outside of simulations.
@@-BuddyGuy To be fair, the "old future" look started with Star Wars.
@@siler7 I was more referring to the consideration aspect of it, since Cameron used to work on effects he always micro-managed that end of things on set
Hicks, Apone, Hudson, Vasques, Gormon. That slimeball Burke. All memorable. I've already forgotten everyone's name in Covenant, apart from Dave.
I agree, the other day I actually had to give it a few seconds to even remember scenes from the movie (saw it 2 weeks ago).
What is this Covenant you speak of? Sounds familiar, but I've forgotten...
DrownedInExile movie that comes after Prometheus
Damn Ridley Scott and his ego with preventing Blomkamp from making a GOOD MOVIE true to the franchise. So true in fact that it was going to ignore abominations that came after Aliens (tbh i don't mind A3 but that's only because Resurrection was so much cancer that it made A3 awesome in comparison)
D Howison, you're joking right? Blokamp's proposed movie is an absolute abortion of an idea, and I am 200% happy that it got permanently shelved.
0:57 I love that smile Hicks has. He is totally loving watching her work that loader.
Michael Biehn is a great actor who never could make the jump to leading man - but James Cameron makes sure to cast him whenever possible. Same with Bill Paxton - he and Michael should have just shared a house, they could carpool to most of their shoots 😀
@@nolaanderson8770 I'm actually surprised he never casts Michael Biehn in Avatar. If Avatar was made in the 80's, Michael Biehn probably would have been Jake Sully.
@@nolaanderson8770 um James hasn't cast him since Abyss which was over 30 years ago. As far as I'm concerned he screwed Biehn over by abandoning him. It may or may not have had something to do with Biehn's alcohol problems.
@@jro3213 Oh no, really? Booze problems?! Say it ain't so bro.
@@LandersWorkshop Yeah it's so unfortunate, he was extremely talented and good looking. Google 'michael biehn alcoholic' and there's at least one short video of Michael talking about it, and a few articles. I've had major problems with alcohol myself so I sympathize
Why do "old" movies like Aliens look so much better and the acting/writing are so much stronger than anything filmed today?
Because they were entertainment and not social engineering where we make someone gay or a woman because of the injustice of society.
They had good special effects, but they didn’t rely on those to carry the story; scripts and acting came first.
Because scenes were actually filmed in real environments and not all green screen cgi garbage like today
Because we are looking at the best of the best sci fi movie from the past era. There are excellent sci fi movies also like example Interstellar, Inception it's just that we have so many movies in our recent memory that makes it seem all the movies these days are shit. Wait another 10 years and see what I mean
@@AC-iz7eh Nice perspective and good point.
Rest in Peace Al Matthews (Sgt Apone) and Thank you for your service.
First I’d heard that he’d died...
He’s in a piece of Cinematic history - so he’s going to live on forever.
Sadly missed all the same.
Rest easy Sarge, your shift is over.
Spartans never die, they're just missing in action.
Sgt. Avery Johnson is based upon Sgt. Apone for the Halo franchise. I said Spartan because he was selected for the Spartan I project.
The way Hicks and Apone look at each other and laugh is classic.
That container probably has Apone's cigars in it. 1:04
hahaha...B12 please.
Lmao! Assholes and Elbows!
Heheheheh good one
@@wesleywarsmith1113 no it isn't bot
Syndrome Is a Hero what?
Apone has cigar-chomping down to a fine art.
he took the Cigar Chomping for Career Advancement class that Schwarzenegger teaches. I walked into a cigar bar in Santa Monica, years ago, and they offer "humidor space" to rent - and Arnie's was in the center at eye-level, so everyone could see the brass nametag. The next space over? Jim Belushi 🤣 LOL I do not think so, Jim!
He has a class 2 rating.
And his voice was PERFECT.
This man needs to play Sgt Johnson in a live-action Halo
Glenn McKenzie he IS Sgt Johnson. They used his character in this movie as the template of how Johnson should be.
She has a Class 2 rating to steal my heart.
You have a class 2 rating in posting youtube comments.
You two get a Class 2 room 🤣
I love how Appone and Hicks look like two kids in a candy store when they see Ripley can handle the loader like a pro. These are clearly two men who are completely secure in their masculinity.
Two kids in a candy store? It's an interesting observation about secure masculinity. A yes and no from me. The 70s and 80s were the start of a culture of childish masculinity. Hedonistic. It's a questionable development still unfolding more and more leading to a more and more incapable base of society.
Real men and real women. A woman who has worked hard and a man who does not act like he is ashamed, instead he is grateful of her skill and willingness to help out.
imagine having character development that isn't a zero some game where the other characters have to be irredeemable shit for the sake of an arrogant "protagonist"
Well put!
jesus christ you people need to get out and talk to people more.
Best part of this scene is the way that it shows you how the loader works and functions. Zooming into the hand controls and the movements to make it feel like a real machine.
It is a real machine. These are real world loaders.
It looks like something you could buy at a real construction/logistics machinery store
@@PetersaberHD Funny enough Caterpiller made the loaders. At a cost of 3 mills a peace. The problem is that it takes a large hydraulic's room to make them move. And pressure hoses liming there range.
@@warrmalaski8570 awesome
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Are you talking about the loaders in the movie? Because they aren't made by Caterpillar. See here: ew.com/comic-con/2016/07/18/aliens-anniversary-oral-history/
You can literally see Hicks falling in love, so well written and acted.
Later on Hicks remarks about the alien blood melting the floor, confirming he was good enough to take Ripley seriously and study the disk data.
Such cool little details.
Practical effects blow away all this CGI everything now when done right. This movie is a perfect example.
The level of detail on the loader is nothing short of spectacular. All the controls look worn, like a real machine that's been in use for years. The most-used buttons have smooth spots worn into them. The pneumatics are banged up but clear where the moving parts are. It's just amazing.
Practical effects are far better than CGI, which I hate. However my jaw dropped when I saw "2012" with Oliver Platt and the world ended. The scope of the destruction on that was mind boggling and could have never, with infinite time and money, been done with practical effects.
That grin on Hicks face, man... ^^
Already falling in love.
@@3Rayfire Yup.
No makeup, no sexy dress, absolutely practical clothing, no flirting...
And she is more attractive and interesting than 95% of modern female characters.
And people think Brie Larson is a hero...
@@viktorthevictor6240 egh.. Awful SJW movie
@Mr. Shlock she would be ruined. But, some men are attracted only by such things(
Вирал Джияджи well she has a lvl 2 rating after all..
@Bnpan. Now this is how you do a strong female lead without all the feminist bullshit!
When Apone hears Hicks's snicker at the end, he suddenly snaps back into macho mode and gives a throaty laugh. You can't buy chemistry like that.
Apone was such a likable character and played his role so well.
I think Al Matthews' history in the Marine Corps might have helped with that.
Apone's laugh was so genuine at the end, he was like, "ok, you really can help out!"
He really appreciates her eagerness to help out.
This is character progression, foreshadowing, establishing of skills, great effects, memorable dialogue and a small victory to make you smile, all in one short scene.
Will most likely forever be my favourite movie. 🏆
Yes, seemingly a pointless, throw-away scene, until the pay-off much later on.
@@RogueRM Wow, you missed my point completely.
Aside from foreshadowing the final battle, this is a key moment for the reasons listed above, not a "pointless throwaway scene". It shows her earning the respect of Hicks and Apone, and demonstrating her competence and willingness to roll up her sleeves and be pro-active. It's a vital winning moment for Ripley who until this point has been having a long string of frustrations and defeats.
@@drewlovelyhell4892 No, I didn't.
My thoughts exactly. Such a simple yet "loaded" scene.....haha see what I did there?
I just LOVE THIS SCENE! It's the moment that Hicks falls for her, and I love the way Cameron was able to capture how sexy a capable woman can be to a guy in his prime.
Cameron really loved his women. Or at least his women characters.
I loved the first Alien movie, but it was this one that solidified my love for Ripley
Nobody cares
I always thought it was funny how Sergeant Apone would constantly have a cigar in his mouth.
He even had one in his pocket when he got out of his hyperbaric chamber!
Yeah, that was gold; the first thing he does when he gets up in the morning is pop a cigar between his molars.
W/out Apone there would be no Johnson for that I am truly thankful.
gcHK47 he reminds me of Johnson from Halo.
I think Johnson was based off of apone and the unsc off the colonial marines
Every fucking scene in this movie is memorable.
Even the deleted scene with turrets.
You can tell from that moment, that Hicks was in love with her...
That "where do you want it?" Was perfect.
Beautiful lighting on her too, very girl next door like.
I just LOVE the look on Hicks Face when she handles that loader like child’s play.
The read in between the lines facial expressions in this scene were superb!
Check out the expressions between Ripley and Hicks when they decide to leave and destroy the site from orbit
Noice.
I love this scene.
1) Ripley's request to help isn't demanding. It comes off genuine. Not about showing off being a female bad ass. It's about being a functional member and perhaps doing anything in her power to ensure everything goes well.
2) Doesn't shit on masculine men to make a point. The men are outwardly polite if a bit disbelieving at first. Perfectly natural.
3) Ripley actually demonstrates competence. Love the understated no fuss way she gets it done. Very attractive to me as a man.
4) The scene has a terrific payoff towards the end of the film when she battles the Queen.
This is one way to write an incredible female hero. 👍
Well said.
I’m going to have to take notes from this when I have a female strong character in my movie when I grow up.
Good points. The film does take place centuries in the future where race and gender are no longer a big deal. Far more important: making money & killing bugs! ;-)
Has your ego been adequately stroked?
@@RobertWF42 One of the Marines is arguably bisexual :-).
Private Frost: Hey, I sure wouldn't mind getting some more of that Arcturian poontang! Remember that time?
Private Spunkmeyer: Yeah, Frost, but the one that you had was a male!
Private Frost: It doesn't matter when it's Arcturian, baby!
One of my all time favorite scenes. Apone goes from nervous (is she gona wreck my equipment?) to laughing at the double entendre joke (Smart, good-looking, useful, and not lazy! I think I'm in love!).
This scene was so damn clean, let me count the ways. Ripley was mentioned to have gotten a job running power loaders in the scene where Burke came to recruit her for this mission. It shows Ripley's character because the only reason she got on to the power loader was because she didn't want to be sitting around doing nothing so A) She doesn't want to be a load and B) she's antsy because she knows there might be Xenomorphs down there and needs something to take her mind off of it, and finally it flawlessly sets up her knowing how to use said power loader in the finale battle. 👌👌👌 Perfection.
👍👍👏👏. Very well stated comment!
It also show's Ripley's nobility. Ripley was a high ranking officer in her former life. Ripley is an ambitious, capable, talented person that all her life has pushed herself to the top, that's why she got where she was. Life dealt her a setback but this scene shows how her inner nobility and talent will always come out, really fleshing out her back story with only one line of exposition: "I have a class 2 rating."
This is actually deeper than that. Ripley is an officer. A person used to give orders and mange other people. When se finds herself without a crew, she begins to manage herself like she's her crew. She finds a task that se can handle to be responsible for. It's not only attitude (I don't want to be idle) but mindset (someone is idle - me - and should be put at work because putting people at work is my job). This is very careful character design and understanding of human psyche that will develop gracefully in the rest of the story when Ripley starts to get more and more command duties and decisions when marines start to die.
@@RiccardoCagnasso That's a good perspective, and shows she holds herself to the same standards as she holds others.
@@3Rayfire It's also very realistic. I've seen this kind of people exhibit exactly that behavior many times. Hell, I've done it myself many times. That is EXACTLY what I would have done in the same situation, down to the forklift and the body language. It shows that the writers have an understanding of how real hierarchical workplaces function and "officers" or "managers" think and operate.
Something that clearly is amiss in nowadays movie writing.
Looking back on this movie, this is likely when Ripley began getting respect from the Marines. Of the 2 civilians on the mission, Burke sits on his ass or whines the company line, Ripley digs in and helps prep the mission.
Then she hijacks the APC to save their asses, maintains composure when Hudson is flipping his shit, wants to learn more about the Pulse Rifle....everything she does is pretty much badass compared to Burke.
yeah but, technically Ripley is not a civilian at all. She is a lieutenant, or was one.
That's not a military rank though, is it? It seems to be a combination of air force/naval ranks applied to civilian commercial vessels. In the same way civilian naval vessels have captains etc.
NorfookianJesus i dont think it was exclusively a military title in this verse. Riply was apart of a star crew. They have captains and what not like a star trek vessel
Think of it as the merchant marine. In peace time, they haul cargo and civilians. In war time, they can be attached to the Navy to transport troops, materials, weapons, etc. So they need a rank system like the military. The only difference here is that Ripley had a private contract, not a government one, but with W-Y being so huge, it might as well be a national entity.
The way he chews that cigar is strangely satisfying
Be my guest...
"Hey Sarge, you'll get lip cancer smoking those!"
Hudson, come here. COME HERE!
@G E T R E K T LOOK INTO MY EYE...
I like how she sounded suggestive when saying "Where you want it?"
Rose Supreme 🤣LOL🤣
It's throwing the space marine's rude innuendos and double entendres (established in the galley scene) back in their faces. Without using a rude word, she's letting them know that they have nothing on her in bad-assery. That (not her proficiency with the loader) is what breaks Apone's reserve about her, which he duly acknowledges with his open and vulnerable laughter. It's a beautiful little scene, lovely acting all around (including Michael Biehn, who has little to do except pull faces).
I know where
@@MrTrenttness but he's actually met some that don't need a Patreon subscription, unlike you.
Yea..she was tryin to seduce Hicks, 😁
Michael Biehn smile tho💙
not even Sarah Connor made him smile like that!!!
Lmao you guys
@@guyincognito7308 Sarah Connor was an idiot in the first half. She couldn't even balance her checkbook.
He smile like only one time in the Terminator. But I still think Michael Biehn is soo underrated and hot
I think they call that character development kevlar k 4. As for Sarah Connor didn't make him smile like that... are you sure?
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That laughter between them like “damn, we could use a half dozen of her. She is the real deal”
they don't make heroines like this anymore
agreed people keep saying wonder woman is the first strong female lead.......its like everyone just forgot the awesome that is Ellen Ripley
They have REY! Mary Sues are the only way to empower women... because the real world is just too scary.
It’s one of the few real FEMALE heroines. All the others are just women acting like men.
JCAliberty82 SANAA LATHAN.BLEW HER CHANCE TO BE IN THE FOLD OF FEMALE HEROINES.I THINK SHE'S LAZY
@@spirit1366 that wasnt her fault AvP was a bad movie should have been R
One of the things I like about this scene is Ripley testing the functions of the loader during start-up, just like would be done on a forklift at any factory. Details matter.
same with operating any complex and potentially-lethal machinery, such as aircraft, tanks, firearms... there's always a pre-ops checklist as part of SOP. Heck, even civilian cars have one, but of course we ignore that in our day-to-day.
Good point. In my head, she's also adjusting the range of motion calibrations, and the sensitivity settings. Stuff that will come in handy during power loader kungfu.
Apone wakes up, immediately inserts cigar, begins barking orders.
In this scene, he talks around it, until...she proves she's worthy, and he removes it out of respect.
That's a master class in character.
She looks so beautiful in these movies, loved her voice!
Her voice played in Wall-e a Axiom computer voice "mother"...
Yes, absolutely!
I love this scene mostly Hicks' smile
I just love that "please" Apone adds on to the end
Set up for the finale aside, i think whether intentional or not this scene plants the seed for Hick's trust in Ripley, this is the point he starts to realise that she isn't just some timid civilian who got scared by a bug
Aliens is one of the greatest film in the entire movie history, not just out of the Alien movie franchise.
Wow you have low standards.
@@jakejoker1988 yep Iron Sky is better :D
i gotta agree with you... Aliens was ground breaking ... one of the FEW times where the sequel really was better then the original and lived up to all the hype...and not just because of a bigger budget. They put more heart and soul into the movie. Ripley was and always will be the best female bad ass
Terminator 2 also did this! and also had a 100% bad ass female lead in it
Empire strikes back also did this!
The Matrix movies did not and got watered down with each movie
New Disney's Star Wars did not :( I did not even bother to go see rise of skywalker
@@jakejoker1988 you can't deny the influence of Aliens on literally every single sci fi and movies of other genres lol there's nothing bad about movie its technically good, well filmed, its not like high brow super cultured its a sci fi action movie but its a solid, memorable and influential film. that in itself is proof that it is a Great Movie, like saying citizen kane or battleship potemkin are bad because people don't watch them anymore when the techniques in those films informed film making afterwards. hell its like saying birth of a nation is a bad movie, while its reprehensible in its content it is the first real movie that wasn't just random vignettes or a single scene and had huge influence as well.
@@jzenhenko I can't believe you actually tried to compare genuinely good movies like Citizen Kane and Battleship Potemkin to B movie trash like Aliens. James Cameron makes movies that appeal to simple people. Aliens is lowest common denominator garbage that appeals to the same people who like Transformers and the Kardashians. The original Alien is a classic but Aliens flat out rapes and defecates on the original.
Literally the way the cigar is planted in his cheek, and gets shuffled around with the lips that are perfectly mustached-- "Be my guest." I SWEAR, best part of this whole movie besides, "LET'S ROCK!"
The scene awaking from cryo is amazing too: "A day in the Corp is like a day on a farm! Every meal is a banquet, every paycheck a fortune, every formation a parade"
One of my favorite scenes in this movie. Al Mathews as Sgt. Apone is great when he fires back with that question.
"I don't know, is there anything you can do?"
Such a great line for character establishment.
I love that Apone is completely dumbfounded that she can handle the machine while Hicks just smiling from ear to ear.
That expression on Hicks face @ :16 of doubt and worry when she says " well I can drive that loader, I have a class two rating " is priceless.
Hicks face 😂 I love his grin
"Bay 12, please."
For some reason, I'll never forget that line.
bay 12 please
I like that too for some reason
drchen054 Because it shows in that moment he instantly began respecting Ripley. She wasn't just a normal civilian. She proved to be an honest working grunt like the rest of 'em.
@@valdie91285 He said please because he respected her but also because shes a civilian and civilians aren't obligated to follow orders like soldiers are.
The detail on the loader! Some crew of special effects folks really put in the effort to get the look of well-worn industrial equipment just right. The attention to detail is stunning- kudos.
I'd also say that the way she operates it at the start feels like she's following a pre-operation checklist - testing the range of motion of the lifter arms before actually engaging a load.
Story, characters, technolgy. Cameron is a master of all of them
Sometimes it's the little details that make a scene work for me.
Watching Ripley climb into the loader, strapping herself in and starting it up... I feel like it just adds so much.
One of the few light-hearted scenes of the movie, but a well deserved one to establish character development. Even to this day, watching this movie puts me on the edge of my seat!
I like how even she's doing "man's job" she keeps her femininity.
People don't realise how much thought is behind every scene in this movie..For me, this one is priceless...no shooting, no scary monsters, just evolving comodetry between brothers in arms..with a smile 😉
And introduces a crucial element that comes back for the climax. Textbook perfect writing
I would of loved a Colonial Marines movie, more specifically, a Hicks and Apone movie.
Matt Trimm I’d love a movie that explored the relationship between Drake & Vasquez
No Hudson? :-(
Then someone makes a movie about Colonial marines and 95% of audience bashes it because it was not how they imagine it would be
True. People are such control freaks today. No open minds at all. That's why I could appreciate what Ridley Scott did in Prometheus and Covenant and so many others hated it.
@@LukeLovesRose Scott lost his mind with Covenant might as well have called the movie David 8 i do agree about Prometheus though covenant would have been better i think if they had explored the engineers origins more
When I first watched this I thought "I bet that comes in handy later on" and wouldn't you know it, it did.
i love those 2 gents laugh at the end and I love more how skilled Ripley was! such an amazing character. I keep on rewatching this movie maybe twice a year🤩 so amazing for a movie in that era💖👍
Hicks is one of my favorite sci-fi characters, he is a model of masculinity that we should all emulate
0:16 the way he chews that cigar 👍
Such an incredible scene. Not only does it give us insight into Ripley's character and what kind of person she is, it sets up the scene at the end of the film with Ripley using the loader. An incredible use of 73 seconds of a movie.
I always thought they did a good job on the details of making it look/feel real in operation. Nowadays it'd be all CGI and not look very believable.
I love the look that Hicks gives at 0.56, he's got Ripley down already
His response of “I don’t know, is there anything you can do?” is what makes Apone a great leader. Show me why you’re here instead of wasting time talking about it and giving out busy work.
As much as I love Alien 3..... seeing moments like this make me wish I lived in a parallel universe where Alien 3 had all the original survivors make it and follow their story. Hicks was so goddamn likable because Michael Biehn is a gem that must be preserved.
Neill Blomkamp & Sigourney Weaver wanted to give us the exact kind of sequel you described. But Ridley Scott and 20th Century Fox (and Now Disney) didn't want it. Such a shame.
I love that first exchange between Ripley and Apone: “...is there anything I can do?” “I don’t know. Is there anything you can do?”
Note that he's not dismissive of her...he just doesn't know what she can do. So he asks to find out. She shows him. He gladly gives her an assignment.
Imagine if that scene was written today by a "modern writer."
"Is there anything I can help with?"
"You best just sit down, little lady, and let the Marines handle this."
"You think so?"
Ripley strides confidently to the Loader, straps in, activates the machine, all the while maintaining eye contact with the two Marines, who glare back.
Ripley walks forward with the machine, almost dancing inside it. Another loader is passing, but Ripley reaches over and takes the giant case right out of the other loaders hands!
Another Male Marine Loader Driver: "Hey! She took my case!"
Ripley strides back to Hicks and Apone triumphantly, the music swells heroically.
She drops the case at their feet, and they jump back, startled.
Ripley jumps out of the loader holding the keys in front of her.
Ripley: "Guess nobody told you. I'm First Officer Ripley, sole survivor of the Nostromo."
Ripley drops the keys into Apone's palm, then walks away.
one of my favorite scenes in the movie. respect shown, respect givin'....
You know a movie is great when even the background characters like the dropship pilot Ferro are memorable.
Coming round for a seven-zero-niner.
I love every aliens character
A modern "strong female character" would have smirked at them at the end, instead of the truly strong "where do ya wannit?" with just a hint of a smile, saying "I'm competent," not "I'm showing you up." Ripley did not lose any femininity, and the men didn't lose any masculinity here. They realized she was very competent and not just an 'advisor', and they appreciated her skills. She didn't act like a stereotypical 'toxic' male and drop the box on their feet and flip them off. She proved herself capable, they were laughing at themselves, not at her, and they all grew closer because of it. Mutual respect, that's what it's about. Modern movies get it all wrong. Sarah Conner, Ellen Ripley, Eowyn, etc. They were strong women who didn't need to become men to be strong.
2019, I'm still waiting someone to build a real power loader
I fucking WISH someone would
They just did ua-cam.com/video/zLWuHo63C8k/v-deo.html
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The only thing holding us back is the battery we need something that can power something that big
the acting on this is SO FREAKING smooth and natural. There is a sense of realism!
1:05 Where you want it?
Ripley earns the marines' respect.
I love the way Apone holds and moves the cigar
He chews on it.
This movie feels like it came out last year.
Everyone: "Star Wars or Star Trek?"
Me: "Well.. actually... Alien."
Everyone: Kirk, Picard or Janeway?
Me: Ripley.
These answers are fair.
Marines diet: MRE
Sgt Diet: Cigars
he makes it looks delicious too.
Guess she don't like the cornbread either.
Love sgt apone's laugh and hicks facial expression😁 Bay 12 please😎🖒
As a forklift operator as my everyday job. I can honestly say I would give anything to have that loader
Bay twelve, please.
Rey: I'm a strong female character...
Ellen Ripley and Olivia Benson: Return to your school, kid, and return when you're a REAL strong female character like us.
Ripley and benson for the win
Correction: return to your safe space kid
@@elbolainas4174 Nah, the school is far better
One of the things I love about this movie is that it was able to show a strong female character, without bashing and belittling men in the process. It didn't shove woke, feminism in your face. Ripley was not a strong female because she was better than a man, she was strong because she was strong.
And all she had to do is prove she belongs by showing mastery of one thing. In under a minute.
Not beat a guy clearly bigger and stronger than her. Not put some guy down by demanding respect she hadn't earned.
"What can I do?"
"I don't know, what can you do?"
*Does it*
And that's all we need!!!
Amen
The most famous fork-lift scene in cinema...by a person who is 100% genuine.
This was such a good flick...late 80's my brother and I had Aliens, Blues Brothers, and RoboCop on a VHS long play tape, and we would literally both wander in at some uncommon hour from our separate adventures, grab a late night/early morning snack, put the tape in, and watch...repeat the next night wherever we left off...get to the end, rewind and start all over...spent a summer or two doing this lol.
It's a great setup scene for the later payoff when she kills the alien with that loader.
She never killed it, just tossed it.
The scuff marks on the feet, and on the arms, the addition of the safety light, the simple un-adorned framework....my hat is off to that long-gone prop department. It looks like it should be walking around right now.
That was one of the best scenes, as Ripley casually demonstrated her competence 😁
Still one of my fave scenes. Not just the "powerful woman" trope, but the way Ripley was so low-key about "I told you so" and the way the two extra-tough marines work right along with er makes it a feel-good moment in a movie full of tension... plus there's the amazing payoff later in the "Get away from her, you b*ch!" scene. :-)
It was at this moment.. that Hicks was sold on Ripley!
It can't be bargained with, it can't be reasoned with, and it won't stop ever until you are dead.