Dumbest CRF 450rl Supermoto Build
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- Опубліковано 27 чер 2024
- #adv #advrider #dualsport #crf450RL #supermoto #sumo
This Sumo build video is a bit different than you have seen. So I decided to build a supermoto bike and write a song about it.Perhaps I went a little overboard. Sumo is life
0:00 - 2:25 Intro
2:26 - 6:30 Warp9 Wheels
6:31 - 10:20 Installation
10:21 - 12:40 Modifications
12:41 - 20.57 Convert Or Not To Convert
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Did this conversion to my RL. What a beautiful bike. People always telling me its the most badass bike they've seen.
Agree
Thanks for watching It does look so bad ass in that red
That was hands down the best fucking song I've ever heard !!!!!!
Thank you Sumo is life
I did the same to my CRF 300L , full on , front forks extension and all. It's fantastic. It really rips.. looks amazing as well.. 😎
The video is life-changing. I've owned the bike for 4 hours and I've already ordered wheels.
Awesome intro video. Love it!
Great vid 👌
After breaking my leg off road, I decided to convert my CRF250L into a supermoto. Here in Thailand there's a company that makes ally rimmed spoked wheels ready to fit my bike. I had Bridgestone S22 (110 / 150) tyres fitted, a 320mm front disc conversion with EBC sintered pads, and changed the gearing to 14/39 sprockets - i can swap back to 13/42 for off road on the same chain length. I had to relocate the front brake line to prevent risk of it catching the wheel. I also lowered the rear a bit due to the smaller front wheel sharpening up the steering. I left all my off road protection on - sump guard, hand guard etc... And that's about it.
Now it's a weapon in the corners and I absolutely love it. I'll never sell it !
I hope your channel grows! That 80s montages intro is the bees knees! 😆
Thank you glad you like the intro I hope to be around for a while
Good job 👍 yeah, I do remember a sheriff one time trying his best to catch a built kx500 running on cam2 supermoto he huffed and puffed but only his doors got blown In. 😁
Would love to see content of a supermoto used in all disciplines it can take on.
We already know it will rip the streets, but wherever you go outside of that and how capable in that dirt or gravel- that will be new content on the ‘Tube.
This thing sideways in every turn on gravel and fire roads would look sick.
🤙🏼 great video and love the intro throw back vibe.
Thank you for watching and thanks for the tips I will take it off road
Enjoyed the video overall, including the fun intro. I really love dual sports but I plan to ride 90% or more on the street, so a supermoto makes sense to me ... and looks awesome! I'd like to see a set-up for 2-3 day mostly street riding touring. And some pros & cons compared to a dual sport doing the same tour. Would be kinda different!
That song was amazing 100%%
under rated intro
The song reminds me of Team America World Police. Awesome 🤘
I'd love to see the SM, as is, ripping up some light trail/offroad. Great looking bike.
I will take it on the trail
What a GOON! (Compliment) 🏁
🎶"Sumo is Life"🎶 🕺😂
This is why we're subd!🍻
Good video. If you want to swap back and forth with dual sport, adjust the sprocket size based on the chain length. You have to keep in mind the tire circumference changes significantly when changing to a 17" wheel, which throws the gearing way off. Go up on the front as many teeth that will fit or is available. Then reduce off the rear however many teeth to get the chain to work. There are online calculators that help.
Thanks for the tips! The 51 rear isnt too bad
That song totally beats Yammie Noobs song “Busa Man” I’m new to your channel and really liking it!
Its the greatest song ever lol Thank for visiting the channel
Holy Shit...I thought I had a grip on what your channel was about...then the goontallica kicked in!
Nice channel, good content. I have a 2022 KLX300SM. Bike is a blast to ride, but I wouldn't want it as my only bike. For me, the KLX is one of three bikes I own, and it works like that. Small and lightweight, you can throw it around like a mountain bike. The 24-ish horsepower at the rear wheel means I need other bikes in the stable.
I want one
Very funny! The montage reminds me of “Street Hawk” from the 80’s. Showing my age now. Lol!
Glad you enjoyed it
That song is amazing
lol I know
Great video
haha that song was sick
I love that intro
Thank you
13 and 14 front swaps nice
I loosen the rear master cylinder and two screws on the brake line. The rear caliper will slide out the groove to give you more room to put the wheel on.
Thanks for the tip I thought the caliper could be removed from the bracket but it wasnt Stingy bastard lol
That was day man/night man quality.
@bornagoon Thank you for this. It was extremely helpful to hear about the potential downsides to this build. I am seriously considering adding a Supermoto build instead of upgrading my adventure bike. It just looks like so much fun. Now I am kind of torn between a CRF450L build, a DRZ400SM, or a race/track specific build like a two stroke or a KTM FS.
I doubt I will seriously race but I definitely will probably do a number of track days, my fair share of parking lot fooling around frequently, and likely switch back to enduro regularly for trail rides too. It sounds like the CRF450RL may be the best option for those interests, even with the wheel swap issues.
That montage was hilarious. I've watched all your videos on the 450RL and I'm sold on it. I can't find anywhere that has any in stock, not sure if the 2023 models have made it to the states yet.
Thank you You will like the bike
Good stuff... I'll keep my dirt tires on.......
I've been debating about buying a 3rd bike, something for fun and then I was thinking maybe I should just buy sumo wheels for my 450L I think you have convinced me not too haha. The new ZX4RR is tempting, but that's a lot more money then a set of wheels haha
More supermoto content please!!
yes more on the way
Well first off that is the best beginning to a bike channel video I have seen in years! Not that you want to do that every time but it was fun to watch and it was well done. Your content is great so far so not sure what to say for what else to do. But you could do some more fun introductions to your videos with different flavors.
Wow, thanks!
Yea that song is a banger
To get best of both worlds go flat track like I did. I bought Warp 9 wheels, the regular ones and they sent me the elite version. They were 19×2.5 front and back with 130/80/19 front and 140/80/19 rear Dunlop DT4 flat track tire and they worked flawlessly on street and dirt. The 19s looked better too, the 17in SM wheels look to small on some bikes and the 19s looked just right. Those DT4's were super sticky and gripped the road like street tires, being that its only a 450, slicks or race/street tires aren't really needed, if your actually racing on a track, than ok, but on the street, you can lean the bike over as far as any other street tire. Off road and dirt roads they work great as well, now if your racing on a track than a knobby is best, but on dry trails, dirt roads, grass, fields, or any terrain that is flat dirt, there's plenty of traction. I never went thru mud deeper than dirt roads after it rained or tried them hill climbing, so I can say how good they are hill climbing or mudding, but on wet dirt or grass it can get a little squirrely with higher speeds and acceleration, but in dry conditions they work well, flat dirt terrain and asphalt, is what there made for, so they're actually designed to be a best of both worlds tire, and they work.
The 19 is an interesting option, I wonder if you could get some trailmax mission tires on that, they handle great on the road and you can still have some gravel road time too.
I ride my Zero FXS weekly on a GoKart track and it is amazing :D no maintenance and more than enough range for closed tracks. I just put race tires on and removed all street legal stuff.
Do you like the electric bike?
@@BornAGoon Yes, I really like it. It has incredible torque. The range is only a problem on public roads, but it's not a big deal on the race track. I also have an enduro setup, so I can ride anywhere I want. Here in Switzerland the laws are very strict, but nobody minds if you don't make any noise. But I think if you only ride on the track, the Stark Varg could be better. :D
I agree with possibly getting another 450 for off road use. Im going to get a 450rl and convert it to SM and keep my 09 yz250 for Mx track/trail riding. How is your GET ECU been? I know alot of people are having problems with the AIM ECU. Trying to decide which one to get when I get my CRF.
My dude, on the chain issue, just buy 2 chains (and have a link-breaker on hand to install a "master link" clip/pin [makes life a lot easier]). Also, there's no need to unplug any break lines, the entire caliper slides out and away, so you shouldn't be getting any air in the lines.
I would definitely run that 44T on the rear, and possibly go to a 14T on the drive sprocket, although changing that out is kind of a hassle
On a four stroke engine, changing the head pipe for an aftermarket one isn't worth the $, unless you have done several other mods to the engine. Changing the silencer though is worth it. On a two stroke however, a new aftermarket pipe can change the characteristics of the engine a lot, making it worth the investment in some cases.
Wheelies are great.
Hey goon, can a rmz 450 be converted street legalized in Nevada? If not I will probably go with wr 450 if I can find one.
On my Drz it’s like a 10 minute swap. But I use the up-sized front disk on both 17 and 21, so I do just simply switch tires.
I also have two chains.
I'm looking to buy the crf450rl or the 450 ktm and set up sumo. Still undecided on which bike so I appreciate all your info
I bought an sxv and that bike is incredible but I might build a Honda sm because of how track oriented the bike is. I like daily riding my sm but 800 mile oil changes is a little on the ridiculous side. That and parts are starting to disappear so it might become my weekend warrior
Yea time to trade up lol
I Put An Exhaust On My XR150l And It Totally Messed Up The Performance . I Put.The Factory Exhaust Back On The Next Day And Now The Bike Is AgainEnjoyable To Ride .
Nice!
I got a 350 for sale if you want another. Lol
I ended up getting the Graves nobody has pipes except the Graves. the header gets so hot and it seems so close to the coolant hoses, its nice and pretty blue though. smh
did you notice a difference in the power after the graves
@@BornAGoon I had the GET tuned for the Graves. They were asking me which exhaust I was using and tuned it for that. I didn't realize you have to put a new tune in for each pipe. I ended up just running it with the graves on.
@@MobMoto Somehow I didnt know that either Maybe I have a mystery map lol How does the bike feel over stock Whatever combo they have on my GET it hauls ass in stock and with the graves Only difference is I get decel pop with the graves on
@@BornAGoon its way better than stock with the get ecu. its safe to say a 10 hp gain with the Get and the Graves from my butt dyno. Lol
No more jerky throttle response, smooth as butter!
Great video and awesome intro!
My story of SM convertion:
I have CRF 450R 2013 with the double exhaust's. It is an older bike but still have some great power and it is fun to ride. I decided to try SM but I wasn't sure if I'm going to like it or no, so i bought old set of SM wheels from KTM LC4 640. With little bit of lathe work I manage to install the wheels on the CRF. I put some fresh slick tyres (Dunlop KR on front and Michelin Power SM on rear - Best set for track days) and went to a go-kart track. After 5 laps I was completly hooked up and I found that the power of the older engine is perfect but I don't have enought braking power. Officially I found my money pit.
Current tunning list:
1. Better brakes - I started with the brake system. I was allready with 320mm brake disk but the stock brake systems didn't had enough of power for the speed that I was getting on the small go-kart track's. At first I tried only with a bigger calliper (4 piston Brembo with Sinter brake pads for Track use) but the brake pump wasn't producing enough of pressure. I bought 19mm radial brake pump (Brembo) and then I had some big improvement on the brake power but I found out that the stock brake line is not strong enought to hold the massive presure from the radial pump, so I swap it with steel braided racing lines and I achived the results that I wanted.
2. After I upgraded the brake system I found out that the suspension is too soft when hard braking before courner. The bike was "sunking" to much and when I let go the the front brake the bike become very hard for turn because of the decompresing of the suspension. At first I tried with more pressure of the cartriges (This CRF model is with Air suspension without springs) and I had the results that i wanted but as I become better (faster) with the bike I needed even stiffer forks, so I swapped the stock cartriges with Ohlins ones. Currenty I'm ussing 15W fork fluid with 70-75 PSI of air pressure.
3. I changed the triple clamp with ones with 16mm offset for better steering in thight corners.
4. I changed the rubber bushings of the hadlebar clamps to aluminum. One of the cheapest and best upgrade that you can get for SM bike. You will get a lot better "feel" for the road and faster turning response.
5. I got better smoother seat cover for easier movements from side to side + rubber tank pads for easier holding on the bike when needed.
6. K&N air filter. No description needed about that.
7. Bigger radiator and silicone tubes - Better cooling + little bit of bling bling
8. Shorter foot pegs - I was scrapping the stock ones on every corner. It was really anoing and the bike wss very unstabble because of that. WIth the short ones I still get them to scrape from time to time but a lot better than before.
Furute tunning list:
1. ECU - After watching your videos for the ECU modules I diceded to buy Aim Taipan. It is allready ordered and I'm still waiting to receive it. I ordered the model with analog chanel harness + second injector harness. WIth this set I can install quick shifter and second fuel injector as a future tuning. In the far future I will order the tunner for this ECU (close to 1000 $) so I can re-map the differents maps and set it to my liking.
2. Arrow exhaust system with O2 sensor - Better sound, more power and O2 sensor for better fuel mapping.
3. Ohlins rear shock - better cornering and less "sunking" when hard accelarting.
4. Slipper clutch - I decided to get the STM brand. Still waiting on back order.
At first I was thinking to use the same bike for DirtBikes tracks and SM track but it's a pain in the ass to convert it every time. I need to change the wheels, forks, brake system, seat and even the air filter (K&N is not good for dirtbike tracks). I bought CRF450R 2019 and now I have 2 money pits but I spend less time for converting.
I will add more things to the future tunning list as I get more expirience in this style of riding. In the list is not included the things that you need for more profesionall riding as good tyre warmers, better bike stand, good and light leather suit and etc.
The way to enter SM word is 100% converting dirtbike or dual-sporter. Original SM is to much expensive, heavy and you still need to get a lot of things to be competiteve. Start with good set of sm wheels and some expensive slick tyres, then move to better brake system and for most of peoples this is all you need for years of joy and fun moments. If you are into racing be prepared for a lot of money and even greater joy and fun moments. The bonus of building it yourself is that you can buy part by part and slowly get used to every change you do + you will get a good mechanical expirience.
Stays save GOONS and don't forget to have fun while riding!
Love the Graves. Yes it gets hot, but the quality is worth it to me. Also confused as I asked Taco Moto which ECU was their best for my RL and he was quick to say AIM with throttle switch ? All of my issues are resolved. It totally changed the bike in every aspect. Just why the GET and AIM are out. ?? I’m not changing anything but I’m just curious
The AiM is really good I think the GET is faster but its a different power The AiM has more torque though but I love them both
@@BornAGoon anything is better than stock..I am so happy with the noticeable results. Perfect for what I will be using the bike for.......Onward we roll
enjoy my Enduro R with street wheels hope you enjoy the Honda see you on the road
Thanks
It's true..changing the supermoto rimset is pain in the ass..the "side stand" is come the end after installing the supermoto rimset, i had to adjusting the height of rear suspension, trim a bit front fork guard to avoid rubbing..
yea its a pain Im too lazy lol
CRF450RL SM on a race track, what else. 👍
I'd love to see that thing on a track.
Me too Vegas sucks for supermoto
Is the rear wheel 4.25 or 5" wide ???
Track days, I have a klx300 that I track now. Be nice to see what the 450 does!
What is that klx on track is the suspension soft
@@BornAGoon first bike so I don't have much of a reference level but it doesn't wallow or anything with me being about 190 with full gear. compression is all the way up in the forks and 2 clicks from max in the rear. it's a blast but I'm at the point where I could upgrade. 450s pass me like I'm standing still.
Why does no one discuss the suspension setting from dirt to sumo? Am I looking at different spring rates?
Wheels and brakes aren't the only differences with the dirt bikes. You need to shorten and harden the suspensions..
Is a crf250x strong enough to sumo?
What’s the rear rim size 17x4.25 or 17x5.00
What is the seat height with the super moto tires?
I measured a little over 35 inches and I have a seat concept low seat on it
@@BornAGoon thanks so much for Answering this! I’m a short dude 5’8” and just about to pull the trigger on a SuperMoto. I cannot manage anything over 35” seat height.
The Yamaha WR250X (discontinued) seat is 35.2”
DRZ400sm seat is 35”
An you say the SuperMoto 450RL is “slightly over” 35” so maybe Just maybe I could manage it.
shame they don't ride as good as they look :( i can't get the chain to stop slapping a ridiculous amount I tried everything before going to 3 dealership 2 new sprockets new chain and even a new rear wheel/axle jic i side swiped something its only getting worse making me think the drive shaft is milled wrong or engine mounted crooked i know its a thing with the 450 hondas but this is next level for any bike especially one with 1400 miles
I'd release that song if I were you
Race would be sweet.
Robbie Knievel could've used a bike like that.
How could you get air in the line? Just compress the piston, dont crack the line.
You're gonna hate me, but it only takes about 10 seconds to get the rear wheel past the caliper with the right technique. Same issue happens with every supermoto. I can make a video on it if it's helpful
yea that would be cool Im sure I will get better at it but any help is welcomed
@@BornAGoon I'll do one tonight and post a link here. 👍
@@BornAGoon ua-cam.com/video/Wmnr94DrjYQ/v-deo.html
Some track racing would awesome!
You have me concerned on fitment. If you had to squeeze or bend the bracket it sounds like there is a fitment issue? I may be wrong but could you talk a little bit more about that?
yea its actually easier than I mentioned in the video for the back you have to hold the wheel high and move it in on an angle For the front you have to replace the caliper bracket then remove one of the break pads Forts time it took me an hour and a half I just converted them back in 30 minutes
@@BornAGoon Ok cool, it sounded like things weren't lining up or binding.
@15:40 there are no 450 two strokes, not on ktm, not on any other brand
the closest is probably the yz 490
You're just making it harder on yourself when it breaks an ankle and you gotta shoot it.
Why do I feel like I need to go buy another supermoto right now 🤔
I think it would be cool if you could do a collaboration with "Mike on Bikes." He races a 701. Maybe an intro to SuperMoto track racing, gear and race prep. ua-cam.com/users/MikeonBikesfeatured
I subscribe to that channel
CRF450RL SM on a race track, what else. 👍
yes no doubt ride red