I'm glad i look up at your playlist section. what an educational gem I've found!! Gonna binge everything .. 🍵☕ thank you for making educational material available and explaining it well.
I like that he gives his own perspective and adds information about what has worked best for him in his experience regarding specific techniques. Instead of just teaching the techniques he adds guidance.
This video summarizes the cognitive model in a way that makes it easy to understand. Dr. Grande explained that people often recognize the emotion before they are aware of the automatic thoughts. I also never understood how thought stopping could be very effective so I appreciated Dr. Grande's views about that.
I found this video informative and helpful. There are several points emphasized in addition to explaining the cognitive model. Individuals often recognize feelings before automatic thoughts. Identifying automatic thoughts, particularly the worthless category, is helpful in assessing suicidal ideation. Thought stopping is paradoxical and therefore, an illogical technique choice. Self-talk encourages acceptance yet disputes cognitive distortions or conclusions. Additionally, adaptive responses are evaluated whether successful or not, which serves to demonstrate the usefulness and importance of choosing a positive adaptive response leading to better outcomes.
Helpful to talk to the fact that people commonly identify the emotion before they can identify the automatic thought. As always, it is helpful to work through a case scenario so that we can conceptualize the terms and concepts in this model. As Jessica already mentioned, thought stopping can be ineffective. I never really understood how it was helpful to tell someone to stop thinking about something. I can appreciate that self-talk as an adaptive response can be a very powerful tool when taught to clients. I think this is a useful tool that can help them change through its repetition. It is also comforting to acknowledge the fact that because it took a while for the automatic thought to embed itself, it will take some time to uproot it.
I also am curious about the effectiveness of thought stopping. It could create the opportunity for a mental contradiction as some people typically would resort to the original thought easier than intentionally dismissing it.
This explanation of the cognitive model helped me to understand just how important an adaptive response is in helping a client to change his or her automatic and immediate thoughts. I like how the video broke the model down and then simplified it, it really helped me to retain the process of the cognitive model much better than I had before watching the video.
I really liked how it held the clients accountable too. Sometimes we know something is irrational, but it just feels rational to us. Sometimes we need someone to point that a thought truly is irrational.
The cognitive model is well laid out, explained and easily understood by Dr. Grande. It's very interesting how this theory can be applied in many behavioral issues as well as the various theories. It's amazing how he explained how using the adaptive response technique can be mire effective than thought stopping. It takes more effort to try not to think about something you feel especially for a patent but with the adaptive response technique, thinking about the worse can serve as a "circuit breaker" for a chain of emotional feelings or reactions which could lead to a negative behavior or response. After all, thinking about the worst that could happen has more power to interrupt a chain of emotional reactions which can lead to acceptance and courage than trying to suppress the thought which can create a whole new emotional reaction. Of course it will take time to master the technique. Great presentation.
I enjoyed listening to the process of core beliefs, intermediate beliefs, and automatic thoughts. The connection between intermediate beliefs and automatic thoughts were very intriguing on how they can affect someone's life with the example that was given. This video has been extremely helpful and informative.
I am a firm believer in the cognitive model. From the first time I read about it, I was convinced that this is indeed the way we function. It seems simple, but elegant and above all a truly rational way to explain how we perceive and respond to situations and events. This video was great for understanding this concept!
I remember the cognitive diagram in the text for theories, which help with understanding how CBT and how people are influenced by their beliefs. Dr. Grande did a great job with explaining it further, along with incorporating adaptive responses into the diagram, and how it influences thinking and behavior.
I really like the Cognitive Model and how it really shows the process at occurs with core beliefs through automatic thoughts to the reaction or behavioral response. This video was really helpful in showing a visual of how the adaptive thought process, while not directly stopping negative automatic thoughts in their tracks, can intervene and help a client change their response in a situation by self talk and then over time work to change the deeper levels core beliefs.
I really enjoyed this video it explained the cognitive model in a very clear way. I do a lot of self talk to counter the negative thoughts that will bombard my mind from time to time.
The cognitive model is fascinating to me. I love the idea of identifying an automatic thought.I also like that it is a highly integrative therapy, and can be used to treat multiple mental disorders. All about the core beliefs, it is our job as counselors to identify them: helpless, lovable, and worthless core beliefs. Also like the idea about the affective, behavioral, and physical responses tied in. This video broke the model down nicely and it was easy to follow
I liked the simple breakdown of CBT offered by the diagram. It shows what changes have to occur and actions that must be taken to benefit from these techniques.
The diagram does help a lot. Dr. Grande does a good job at the breakdown of each stage, and by adding the examples of each step it adds to the understanding of the diagram .
It was interesting to hear how core beliefs affect one's thoughts and can have significant impact on their behaviors; especially behaviors that effect on others. I also found intriguing that automatic thoughts can not be stopped and it is a process. Overall a very informative video with a lot of extremely useful information and skills.
As a visual learner, this video helped my understanding of the cognitive model. I also found the description of how adaptive responses can be used to challenge automatic thoughts helpful.
I'm really excited to be delving into this class, as this theory really makes sense to me. I can see how this theory has played out in my life and others as well.
When you're trying to find resources for your essay and bump into an explainer video from your favorite UA-camr - when I heard 'Hi everyone, Dr Grande here' I know I'm covered.
I really liked this video it was very informative in explaining how CBT as a model is an effective therapy. It makes sense to use adaptive responses to counter any negative thoughts and work to change the behavior than it is to change the persons whole belief system through conversation.
I like the use of self-talk to help prevent negative thoughts. Self-talk can be very effective. It promotes optimism and hope that can lead to positive outcomes.
This video was interesting, & the illustrations were helpful in understanding where the adaptive response would fit in, & how it can be applied, & tested out over time.
I agree that this video was interesting and very helpful. I am a visual learner so the illustrations, explanations, and examples were extremely helpful for me to understand this model. I can definitely see myself incorporating this model into my future therapy sessions.
7 years ago? Wow. I am sorry that I am so late to the conversation. I have gone to therapists, on and off, for most of my life. I stopped using the toilet when I was 8yo and "held it" until I had accidents every day for years so my mom sent me to therapy. Every Therapist was a Phd and each time took 2 to 3 years to get to the issue and then have it resolved. I am 50yo now though and was depressed so my Primary Care Physician wrote me a script for Prozac and sent me to a Center that specialized in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. The therapist lady seemed nice but on the first day she gave me this list of the "15 Types of Distorted Thinking" and I could tell how this was going to go. This List was going to be her framework and I could tell she had a game plan where this was only going to last a few months. Plus she was way younger than me and only had a BS in Psychology. Naturally I had read more than her and she didn't understand half the things I was talking about or references from Jung that I have been exposed to. So I have a negative experience with CBT. It seems like in today's corporate world (with Insurance) they do NOT want to pay for "Years" of anything. They want you on a SSI and a few months of the most basic talk therapy (if anything). I don't like SSIs because it regulates your family and your life and everything important to you, and why you are sad, to a chemical imbalance that a pill will fix? My mother was more important than a pill! That seems like an insult to me. ("Oh you're not sad because your mom abandoned you. You're sad because you have a chemical imbalance"). In the same way, this Distorted Thinking thing was "nice" but it is insulting to boil all your emotional life down to 15 steps and 3 months. Sorry for venting. You have a very calming voice btw. Maybe different people respond better to different modalities? They should screen you in the beginning and determine which type of therapy would work best for you.
This video was helpful in understanding how the process of adaptive responses can change automatic responses, intermediate beliefs, and core beliefs. It was also helpful in seeing how it could be applied in session with a client.
I agree. The example used throughout the video made it easier to not only understand how adaptive responses and self-talk are used in CBT to modify beliefs and automatic thoughts to relieve symptoms, but also how to apply/use this concept in an actual counseling session. The example also made it easier to distinguish between all of the concepts that make the model. Very helpful!
I agree as well. This was a nice visual that helped me to understand core beliefs, intermediate beliefs, and automatic thoughts more clearly. It helped to see and hear how adaptive responses can help to start changing those beliefs. I wonder in cases where someone has many core beliefs if it is more helpful to work one one or two at a time or all at once.
The comparison of the Cognitive Model of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy to Algebra is very helpful. The idea that one can think of it as an equation that can be solved can very well assist the clinician in working with a client experiencing difficulties in pin-pointing one level or more on the model. The two can perhaps work in either direction to identify the distortions and automatic thoughts with a view to creating and applying adaptive responses.
I like how this video addressed the whole elephant (Or red car as Dr. Grande put it) situation in regards to stopping automatic thoughts. You can't simply not think about something when you're told not to think about it. putting in the frame of Interrupting the automatic thoughts is a better way of approaching it.
I thought the cognitive model was explained very well. There were a couple of points that you shared that were good take aways. The one was about how a client will feel emotions before the thought occurs. That was very interesting to hear how emotion can be that feeling from a client's core belief. The other take away was about the thought stopping. I agree with you, and could see how difficult it could be for a client to stop thinking about something when you tell them to stop thinking about it. It would be hard for me to stop. As always, I learn something from your videos.
Robert, I also found the information interesting regarding automatic thoughts being more difficult to identify than emotions. That is an important factor to be aware of when working with clients.
I agree about the thought stopping. It seems telling someone to stop thinking about something will not only lead them to think about it more but increases anxiety.
By effectively using self talk to challenge the automatic thoughts, which is at a surface level, the client should see change in their reactions and with time in their core beliefs. I agree that this might take time and I can assume that as a counselor patience is necessary, and like Dr. Grande stated, it's important to focus on the small changes that the client has achieved. I enjoyed the example used.
Thank you. You refer to a person who clubs core and intermediate beliefs together. Was it Ellis , Alice? I did not get full name. Grateful if you will give me name, so i can read further. Many thanks for clear teaching.
I agree with what Dr. Grande has said about not being able to stop automatic thoughts. I do not think that is possible but interrupting and countering them is something that can be done. This model is fairly straightforward but in practice I'm sure it is much more complicated.
It seems like core beliefs are conclusions we have about ourselves from our early development and then we draw inferences from them that form our intermediate beliefs. Then, when we are in situations described by our IBs they emerge as automatic thoughts which produce symptoms. Finally, you interrupt the ATs with counter arguments which refute the IBs (which undermine the core beliefs they're attached to). It's interesting that this whole process is structured like an argument with fallacious reasoning. I'd be interested in an example of how an image was part of the process. Thanks.
Cognitive Theory is not just how the situation itself tells us how we feel but it is our thoughts on that situation. If one views a situation as negative, in turn they may feel negative do to their thought process. If we are able to recognize our thoughts and reframe our belief system our emotions and behavior will change.
I really appreciate the point you made about not being able to just stop thinking the thoughts, I agree that the more effective approach would be to replace the maladaptive automatic thoughts with a better more adaptive response. I am sure getting those new thoughts to become automatic and truly replace the previous maladaptive ones would take some time and much practice on the part of the client.
I definitely agree with you about it being really hard to just "stop thinking about something," and i can understand how that would be discouraging for clients when they are told to stop thinking about something and just ended up thinking about it more. i think the repetition and educational/coaching component can really be helpful for many clients and goes to show why this model is so effective/popular.
Jessica, I agree with you. I know that it would be hard for me to stop thinking about something if you told me to stop thinking about it. I liked the term "self talk" because as a counselor working with your client, the two of you and rehearsals seems to be the way to help the client with adaptive responses to help change that situation and automatic thoughts.
Good Video. It is clear to see that adaptive responding would be far superior to trying to stop automatic thoughts. Adaptive responses counter negative thoughts and divert behavior. By continuously applying these adaptive responses clients can change their belief system and improve their emotional health.
Barbara: That articulates exactly my impressions of the cognitive model. Thoughts underlie feelings when result in behavioral responses. Before beginning this program I was not as aware of the thoughts that lead to my emotional responses. Having used this technique myself to counter some of my PTSD related fears, I can say if you truly work it and apply it, it works quite successfully.
This video had a lot of information in it. I found it interesting that most core beliefs are positive but the counselor focuses on the negative core beliefs.
The diagram shows a cycle of how the cognitive model plays out in a client's environment. An individual's core beliefs affect their intermediate beliefs which in turn triggers an automatic thought. A client's automatic thoughts frequently get in their way and keep them from experiencing positive feelings or behaviors.
The cognitive model seems to apply to so many mental health disorders and can be integrated with other therapies. If a counselor is not aware of the core beliefs of a client they are unable to meet the client where they are. The counselor will essentially be hitting a brick wall and getting frustrated with the client for lack of progress. It is very interesting to observe the flow of core beliefs leading to adaptive responses. This helps counselors piece together clients' behaviors from being erratic to actually making sense when you understand the whole picture behind the behaviors.
Angie, I too love how integrative CBT is, also love your point about hitting a brick wall. Not only will the counselor be hitting a brick wall, but the client must feel that way too, must be frustrating not being able to identify their core beliefs!
Angie, I agree with you both and Brit. Especially after watching the role plays in class. I have always thought the idea of CBT is easy, but the application of it is going to be very complicated. While it is structured, I agree that counselors need to be well educated on this theory, and all its complications before applying it in the field.
I agree Don. Outlining each aspect of the model and then putting it all together made this very clear. I have found that using adaptive responses to counter negative reactions to stressful situations has been very useful in my life.
I found the discussion on thought stopping to be very interesting. I would agree that telling someone not to think about something will only make them think about it more. I like the idea of using self talk to assist a client when negative thought patterns occur and rehearsing those phrases or mantras when they recognize that pattern.
I agree Tommy, that example was helpful to understand how thought stopping may be an unreachable goal. However, the rehearsal of self-talk would seem more beneficial.
Core beliefs = "I am...", worthless core beliefs most troubling (self harm, suicide, etc.) Intermediate beliefs = attitudes, expectations, and assumptions ("I'll get turned down if I ask her out on a date." Beliefs more on the surface, unarticulated. + Situation (stressor) = creation of automatic thoughts (this is going to lead to embarrassment). They're thoughts or images just outside of conscious awareness. Often recognize associated EMOTION first.
I find it interesting that individuals are able to recognize emotions when identifying an automatic thought. I also find it interesting that the core beliefs of individuals struggling with depression is often positive. I would have thought that with a positive core belief individuals would have more insight into passing through depressive situations.
I agree Pearl. It seems as though individuals are able to gain insight with CBT and understand the emotions behind the automatic thought. I thought this video was helpful in showing how to assist a client with their thought processes.
I love listening to Todd’s videos as I enjoy his calmness and gentle approach however I really struggled with this one. It was a little TOO slow for me and I had trouble staying focused. A little more enthusiasm would help this explanation immensely
His presentations are emotionally flat, but even if you are bothered by that, the value is there. And its free! Sometimes I turn up the speed on yt to 1.25 or even 1.5 and can still follow. I suggest you try that. There are some speakers on yt I listen to at 2x with no problem. Too much new information from the Dr. here for me to get away with that though.
I'm actually watching thus video as I need to learn these behaviors otherwise I will end up dying alone and I just can't let that happen to the little girl inside of me face that all by herself, everyone else has abandoned her its up to me yo stop all thus and fix myself through these new behaviours now as I just found out something after all these years about myself. Gosh and its my birthday 🎊 today. Here I am spending it alone.
I have 2 major core beliefs: 1. I'm useless (as my stutter makes daily communication a struggle) 2. People will discriminate me (if they know I'm gay) Due to these 2 core beliefs, I've thought of suicide several times...
what about a delusional belief like i think i dont exit and i am just a 3 way opinion interaction between my step moms nephew and her sister this people r for ever in my head i feel they live in my head i know ther is no one in my head but this delusion has swallowed my whole mind i live in this lens how do i free myself ?
I'm glad i look up at your playlist section. what an educational gem I've found!! Gonna binge everything .. 🍵☕ thank you for making educational material available and explaining it well.
same here 😂🌻
This explanation is so helpful and well-organised, thank you!
You're welcome!
I like that he gives his own perspective and adds information about what has worked best for him in his experience regarding specific techniques. Instead of just teaching the techniques he adds guidance.
This was absolutely well done, thank you very much for your efforts and have a great day. ❤
This video summarizes the cognitive model in a way that makes it easy to understand. Dr. Grande explained that people often recognize the emotion before they are aware of the automatic thoughts. I also never understood how thought stopping could be very effective so I appreciated Dr. Grande's views about that.
A very informative and well-explained video. I fully understood the model with such a simple yet effective example. Thank you
I found this video informative and helpful. There are several points emphasized in addition to explaining the cognitive model. Individuals often recognize feelings before automatic thoughts. Identifying automatic thoughts, particularly the worthless category, is helpful in assessing suicidal ideation. Thought stopping is paradoxical and therefore, an illogical technique choice. Self-talk encourages acceptance yet disputes cognitive distortions or conclusions. Additionally, adaptive responses are evaluated whether successful or not, which serves to demonstrate the usefulness and importance of choosing a positive adaptive response leading to better outcomes.
Helpful to talk to the fact that people commonly identify the emotion before they can identify the automatic thought. As always, it is helpful to work through a case scenario so that we can conceptualize the terms and concepts in this model. As Jessica already mentioned, thought stopping can be ineffective. I never really understood how it was helpful to tell someone to stop thinking about something. I can appreciate that self-talk as an adaptive response can be a very powerful tool when taught to clients. I think this is a useful tool that can help them change through its repetition. It is also comforting to acknowledge the fact that because it took a while for the automatic thought to embed itself, it will take some time to uproot it.
I also am curious about the effectiveness of thought stopping. It could create the opportunity for a mental contradiction as some people typically would resort to the original thought easier than intentionally dismissing it.
This explanation of the cognitive model helped me to understand just how important an adaptive response is in helping a client to change his or her automatic and immediate thoughts. I like how the video broke the model down and then simplified it, it really helped me to retain the process of the cognitive model much better than I had before watching the video.
It's very interesting to see just how often we have automatic thoughts and how using adaptive responses can help us turn negative into a positive.
I really liked how it held the clients accountable too. Sometimes we know something is irrational, but it just feels rational to us. Sometimes we need someone to point that a thought truly is irrational.
The cognitive model is well laid out, explained and easily understood by Dr. Grande. It's very interesting how this theory can be applied in many behavioral issues as well as the various theories.
It's amazing how he explained how using the adaptive response technique can be mire effective than thought stopping. It takes more effort to try not to think about something you feel especially for a patent but with the adaptive response technique, thinking about the worse can serve as a "circuit breaker" for a chain of emotional feelings or reactions which could lead to a negative behavior or response.
After all, thinking about the worst that could happen has more power to interrupt a chain of emotional reactions which can lead to acceptance and courage than trying to suppress the thought which can create a whole new emotional reaction.
Of course it will take time to master the technique. Great presentation.
I enjoyed listening to the process of core beliefs, intermediate beliefs, and automatic thoughts. The connection between intermediate beliefs and automatic thoughts were very intriguing on how they can affect someone's life with the example that was given. This video has been extremely helpful and informative.
I am a firm believer in the cognitive model. From the first time I read about it, I was convinced that this is indeed the way we function. It seems simple, but elegant and above all a truly rational way to explain how we perceive and respond to situations and events. This video was great for understanding this concept!
I agree with you that it is a simple and logic model. It makes so much sense to me and like you said this video demonstrates it very clearly.
Thank you, Dr. Grande for helping me understand CBT for my MSW theories paper!
I remember the cognitive diagram in the text for theories, which help with understanding how CBT and how people are influenced by their beliefs. Dr. Grande did a great job with explaining it further, along with incorporating adaptive responses into the diagram, and how it influences thinking and behavior.
This video was very easy to follow and I liked how the cycle changes when an adaptive response is added that changes how individuals react
I enjoyed this presentation, thanks. The adaptive response approach seems to allow client action in the process, rather than reaction.
I really like the Cognitive Model and how it really shows the process at occurs with core beliefs through automatic thoughts to the reaction or behavioral response. This video was really helpful in showing a visual of how the adaptive thought process, while not directly stopping negative automatic thoughts in their tracks, can intervene and help a client change their response in a situation by self talk and then over time work to change the deeper levels core beliefs.
Thank you Dr. Grande. This was a good refresher course for me.
I really enjoyed this video it explained the cognitive model in a very clear way. I do a lot of self talk to counter the negative thoughts that will bombard my mind from time to time.
The cognitive model is fascinating to me. I love the idea of identifying an automatic thought.I also like that it is a highly integrative therapy, and can be used to treat multiple mental disorders. All about the core beliefs, it is our job as counselors to identify them: helpless, lovable, and worthless core beliefs. Also like the idea about the affective, behavioral, and physical responses tied in. This video broke the model down nicely and it was easy to follow
The video aided in understanding the cycle of automatic thoughts. At first glace, the factors seemed overlapping, but I see them clearly now.
I liked the simple breakdown of CBT offered by the diagram. It shows what changes have to occur and actions that must be taken to benefit from these techniques.
The diagram does help a lot. Dr. Grande does a good job at the breakdown of each stage, and by adding the examples of each step it adds to the understanding of the diagram .
Magnificent explanation.
Glad you think so!
It was interesting to hear how core beliefs affect one's thoughts and can have significant impact on their behaviors; especially behaviors that effect on others. I also found intriguing that automatic thoughts can not be stopped and it is a process. Overall a very informative video with a lot of extremely useful information and skills.
I liked having the diagram to look at to better understand CBT techniques. It broke it down in a more simplistic way.
As a visual learner, this video helped my understanding of the cognitive model. I also found the description of how adaptive responses can be used to challenge automatic thoughts helpful.
I am also a visual learner so the diagram and descriptions really helped me to better understand this model.
I agree that the diagram helped, especially when both diagrams were compared regarding automatic thoughts and adaptive behaviors.
There is soooo much money in this didactic. Thank you.
I'm really excited to be delving into this class, as this theory really makes sense to me. I can see how this theory has played out in my life and others as well.
When you're trying to find resources for your essay and bump into an explainer video from your favorite UA-camr - when I heard 'Hi everyone, Dr Grande here' I know I'm covered.
I really liked this video it was very informative in explaining how CBT as a model is an effective therapy. It makes sense to use adaptive responses to counter any negative thoughts and work to change the behavior than it is to change the persons whole belief system through conversation.
I like the use of self-talk to help prevent negative thoughts. Self-talk can be very effective. It promotes optimism and hope that can lead to positive outcomes.
This video was interesting, & the illustrations were helpful in understanding where the adaptive response would fit in, & how it can be applied, & tested out over time.
I agree that this video was interesting and very helpful. I am a visual learner so the illustrations, explanations, and examples were extremely helpful for me to understand this model. I can definitely see myself incorporating this model into my future therapy sessions.
7 years ago? Wow. I am sorry that I am so late to the conversation. I have gone to therapists, on and off, for most of my life. I stopped using the toilet when I was 8yo and "held it" until I had accidents every day for years so my mom sent me to therapy. Every Therapist was a Phd and each time took 2 to 3 years to get to the issue and then have it resolved. I am 50yo now though and was depressed so my Primary Care Physician wrote me a script for Prozac and sent me to a Center that specialized in Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. The therapist lady seemed nice but on the first day she gave me this list of the "15 Types of Distorted Thinking" and I could tell how this was going to go. This List was going to be her framework and I could tell she had a game plan where this was only going to last a few months. Plus she was way younger than me and only had a BS in Psychology. Naturally I had read more than her and she didn't understand half the things I was talking about or references from Jung that I have been exposed to. So I have a negative experience with CBT. It seems like in today's corporate world (with Insurance) they do NOT want to pay for "Years" of anything. They want you on a SSI and a few months of the most basic talk therapy (if anything). I don't like SSIs because it regulates your family and your life and everything important to you, and why you are sad, to a chemical imbalance that a pill will fix? My mother was more important than a pill! That seems like an insult to me. ("Oh you're not sad because your mom abandoned you. You're sad because you have a chemical imbalance"). In the same way, this Distorted Thinking thing was "nice" but it is insulting to boil all your emotional life down to 15 steps and 3 months. Sorry for venting. You have a very calming voice btw. Maybe different people respond better to different modalities? They should screen you in the beginning and determine which type of therapy would work best for you.
This video was helpful in understanding how the process of adaptive responses can change automatic responses, intermediate beliefs, and core beliefs. It was also helpful in seeing how it could be applied in session with a client.
I agree. The example used throughout the video made it easier to not only understand how adaptive responses and self-talk are used in CBT to modify beliefs and automatic thoughts to relieve symptoms, but also how to apply/use this concept in an actual counseling session. The example also made it easier to distinguish between all of the concepts that make the model. Very helpful!
I agree as well. This was a nice visual that helped me to understand core beliefs, intermediate beliefs, and automatic thoughts more clearly. It helped to see and hear how adaptive responses can help to start changing those beliefs. I wonder in cases where someone has many core beliefs if it is more helpful to work one one or two at a time or all at once.
The comparison of the Cognitive Model of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy to Algebra is very helpful. The idea that one can think of it as an equation that can be solved can very well assist the clinician in working with a client experiencing difficulties in pin-pointing one level or more on the model. The two can perhaps work in either direction to identify the distortions and automatic thoughts with a view to creating and applying adaptive responses.
I like how this video addressed the whole elephant (Or red car as Dr. Grande put it) situation in regards to stopping automatic thoughts. You can't simply not think about something when you're told not to think about it. putting in the frame of Interrupting the automatic thoughts is a better way of approaching it.
I thought the cognitive model was explained very well. There were a couple of points that you shared that were good take aways. The one was about how a client will feel emotions before the thought occurs. That was very interesting to hear how emotion can be that feeling from a client's core belief. The other take away was about the thought stopping. I agree with you, and could see how difficult it could be for a client to stop thinking about something when you tell them to stop thinking about it. It would be hard for me to stop. As always, I learn something from your videos.
Robert, I also found the information interesting regarding automatic thoughts being more difficult to identify than emotions. That is an important factor to be aware of when working with clients.
I agree about the thought stopping. It seems telling someone to stop thinking about something will not only lead them to think about it more but increases anxiety.
By effectively using self talk to challenge the automatic thoughts, which is at a surface level, the client should see change in their reactions and with time in their core beliefs. I agree that this might take time and I can assume that as a counselor patience is necessary, and like Dr. Grande stated, it's important to focus on the small changes that the client has achieved. I enjoyed the example used.
Thank you. You refer to a person who clubs core and intermediate beliefs together. Was it Ellis , Alice? I did not get full name. Grateful if you will give me name, so i can read further. Many thanks for clear teaching.
I agree with what Dr. Grande has said about not being able to stop automatic thoughts. I do not think that is possible but interrupting and countering them is something that can be done. This model is fairly straightforward but in practice I'm sure it is much more complicated.
The Adaptive Response, over time, feeds back to Core Beliefs which then changes the Automatic Thoughts.
This is gold, thanks.
It seems like core beliefs are conclusions we have about ourselves from our early development and then we draw inferences from them that form our intermediate beliefs. Then, when we are in situations described by our IBs they emerge as automatic thoughts which produce symptoms. Finally, you interrupt the ATs with counter arguments which refute the IBs (which undermine the core beliefs they're attached to).
It's interesting that this whole process is structured like an argument with fallacious reasoning.
I'd be interested in an example of how an image was part of the process.
Thanks.
Cognitive Theory is not just how the situation itself tells us how we feel but it is our thoughts on that situation. If one views a situation as negative, in turn they may feel negative do to their thought process. If we are able to recognize our thoughts and reframe our belief system our emotions and behavior will change.
I really appreciate the point you made about not being able to just stop thinking the thoughts, I agree that the more effective approach would be to replace the maladaptive automatic thoughts with a better more adaptive response. I am sure getting those new thoughts to become automatic and truly replace the previous maladaptive ones would take some time and much practice on the part of the client.
I definitely agree with you about it being really hard to just "stop thinking about something," and i can understand how that would be discouraging for clients when they are told to stop thinking about something and just ended up thinking about it more. i think the repetition and educational/coaching component can really be helpful for many clients and goes to show why this model is so effective/popular.
Jessica, I agree with you. I know that it would be hard for me to stop thinking about something if you told me to stop thinking about it. I liked the term "self talk" because as a counselor working with your client, the two of you and rehearsals seems to be the way to help the client with adaptive responses to help change that situation and automatic thoughts.
I also agree with you Jess. I always thought that trying to stop automatic thoughts was an over-simplified and silly therapeutic strategy.
Hi thank you so much for your video clips are very 16th and easy to understand I’m just wondering if you have hand out please?
Good Video. It is clear to see that adaptive responding would be far superior to trying to stop automatic thoughts. Adaptive responses counter negative thoughts and divert behavior. By continuously applying these adaptive responses clients can change their belief system and improve their emotional health.
Barbara: That articulates exactly my impressions of the cognitive model. Thoughts underlie feelings when result in behavioral responses. Before beginning this program I was not as aware of the thoughts that lead to my emotional responses. Having used this technique myself to counter some of my PTSD related fears, I can say if you truly work it and apply it, it works quite successfully.
This video had a lot of information in it. I found it interesting that most core beliefs are positive but the counselor focuses on the negative core beliefs.
The diagram shows a cycle of how the cognitive model plays out in a client's environment. An individual's core beliefs affect their intermediate beliefs which in turn triggers an automatic thought. A client's automatic thoughts frequently get in their way and keep them from experiencing positive feelings or behaviors.
Adaptive Responses (takes work!) feeds back to Core Beliefs which over time changes Automatic Thoughts.
The cognitive model seems to apply to so many mental health disorders and can be integrated with other therapies. If a counselor is not aware of the core beliefs of a client they are unable to meet the client where they are. The counselor will essentially be hitting a brick wall and getting frustrated with the client for lack of progress.
It is very interesting to observe the flow of core beliefs leading to adaptive responses. This helps counselors piece together clients' behaviors from being erratic to actually making sense when you understand the whole picture behind the behaviors.
Angie, I too love how integrative CBT is, also love your point about hitting a brick wall. Not only will the counselor be hitting a brick wall, but the client must feel that way too, must be frustrating not being able to identify their core beliefs!
Angie, I agree with you both and Brit. Especially after watching the role plays in class. I have always thought the idea of CBT is easy, but the application of it is going to be very complicated. While it is structured, I agree that counselors need to be well educated on this theory, and all its complications before applying it in the field.
good explanation Doc.. the diagram was very helpful....
I agree Don. Outlining each aspect of the model and then putting it all together made this very clear. I have found that using adaptive responses to counter negative reactions to stressful situations has been very useful in my life.
I am beginning to understand that all of us at some point in our lives fall victim to automatic thought processes. Very interesting
I found the discussion on thought stopping to be very interesting. I would agree that telling someone not to think about something will only make them think about it more. I like the idea of using self talk to assist a client when negative thought patterns occur and rehearsing those phrases or mantras when they recognize that pattern.
I agree Tommy, that example was helpful to understand how thought stopping may be an unreachable goal. However, the rehearsal of self-talk would seem more beneficial.
Absolutely--especially the idea that one can and 'should' acknowledge the automatic thought, and then challenge it...instead of trying to avoid it.
Core beliefs = "I am...", worthless core beliefs most troubling (self harm, suicide, etc.)
Intermediate beliefs = attitudes, expectations, and assumptions ("I'll get turned down if I ask her out on a date." Beliefs more on the surface, unarticulated. + Situation (stressor) = creation of automatic thoughts (this is going to lead to embarrassment). They're thoughts or images just outside of conscious awareness. Often recognize associated EMOTION first.
You use the word "Pathological" . Can you offer a detailed, or even a quantitative, definition of that?
I find it interesting that individuals are able to recognize emotions when identifying an automatic thought. I also find it interesting that the core beliefs of individuals struggling with depression is often positive. I would have thought that with a positive core belief individuals would have more insight into passing through depressive situations.
I agree Pearl. It seems as though individuals are able to gain insight with CBT and understand the emotions behind the automatic thought. I thought this video was helpful in showing how to assist a client with their thought processes.
Divine, thank you. Do you do causeling via scype?
I love listening to Todd’s videos as I enjoy his calmness and gentle approach however I really struggled with this one. It was a little TOO slow for me and I had trouble staying focused. A little more enthusiasm would help this explanation immensely
His presentations are emotionally flat, but even if you are bothered by that, the value is there. And its free! Sometimes I turn up the speed on yt to 1.25 or even 1.5 and can still follow. I suggest you try that. There are some speakers on yt I listen to at 2x with no problem. Too much new information from the Dr. here for me to get away with that though.
I'm actually watching thus video as I need to learn these behaviors otherwise I will end up dying alone and I just can't let that happen to the little girl inside of me face that all by herself, everyone else has abandoned her its up to me yo stop all thus and fix myself through these new behaviours now as I just found out something after all these years about myself. Gosh and its my birthday 🎊 today. Here I am spending it alone.
Who would downvote free education?
I have 2 major core beliefs:
1. I'm useless (as my stutter makes daily communication a struggle)
2. People will discriminate me (if they know I'm gay)
Due to these 2 core beliefs, I've thought of suicide several times...
what about a delusional belief like i think i dont exit and i am just a 3 way opinion interaction between my step moms nephew and her sister this people r for ever in my head i feel they live in my head i know ther is no one in my head but this delusion has swallowed my whole mind i live in this lens how do i free myself ?