Her sneaking the note out, the son giving it straight to the bus driver and the bus driver all made this work. I hope her and her children have an easier life ❤
@@Lucifer1zz stop sensationalizing this child's actions. This is not bravery, it's a desperate plea for help by the child to save his mother's life.. the very same mother who will put this same child in this same situation again by not cooperating with the DA, resulting in the charges being dismissed. This child should NEVER have been put in this situation. The mother has been hospitalized by this man before and then made the choice to continue to expose her children to him. This child is suffering from ongoing NEGLECT in the home.. being exposed to significant violence on a regular basis.. and probably being a victim of the violence.. if not before this arrest, very likely once the charges were dropped. Im very concerned that this child will end up being subjected to retaliation by the father for giving that note to the bus driver.
I am crying because this was me over 19 years ago. I got out finally in the dead of night with 7 kids. I’m thankful everyday I found the courage finally and got out and got help. Today my kids are adults with beautiful families and I have an amazing life with a wonderful husband. It can be done your life can change just find your courage.
As a Paramedic I’ve learned that strangling doesn’t usually leave marks like you might imagine. So don’t use that as a gauge of the seriousness. I hope she & her family are safe now!
Went thru this just Thursday night July 25th 2024. I was strangled but no one saw it so the cops let him go because I didn’t have any visual injuries. Paramedics weren’t called or anything for me
Yes, I was strangled but had very little physical marks. The injury was more so internal. People definitely expect extreme bruising but that's not always how it is
I got pushed down the stairs and thrown around by my ex… I called police and was hysterically crying bc I just wanted him gone and out of the house.. they looked at me and went to talk to him (he likes to play calm cool and collected so he looks like the calm one and I’m just crazy) the cops came back and told me that our story’s are different and that I didn’t have any marks and I’m the one that was being extra from their view then they threatened to take me bc of the glass bong I had on my table in the living room he said was mine and if I called again they would be taking me … after that I never trusted police ever again I had my whole body covered in bruises the next day … but at the time they saw no marks on me and based on that they blamed me for being the main confrontation starter… I hate police never has there ever been a time where I called them for help and they actually helped no they honestly usually just make the situation worse and don’t do anything. Or they don’t care and just take both(victim included) to jail and then the victim has to suffer even more for trying to call for help… it’s ridiculous.
Goodolboys do you live in Texas? My sister called 911 and told them he has a gun to my head. The police went to her house and there was no noise and no one answered the door. So the police just left . Yes he killed her.@@janayD31605
Kudos to the bus driver for calling and not just blowing it off. And especially to the child who literally got them out of this situation. I hope all heal ❤
Kudos to the mother, too. It took a lot of courage for her to risk the note and she persevered with a method her husband wouldn’t detect knowing if he caught her it could end her and her children’s lives.
@@choccolocco we’ve all been to school (most of us) and so we all know how it was to tell an adult at those places something serious only for them to blow it off. This is why I’m thanking the bus driver. Even though people who are in childcare are mandatory reporters, that doesn’t mean everyone of them reports something -which is gross don’t get me wrong but I’m just making a point to thank the bus driver in hopes that other people in positions of mandatory reporting DO IT !!
@@Soupy_porridge09 Oh, I wasn’t taking anything from him, just pointing that out. But every incident growing up that I know of where teachers or whoever were told of abuse, it was not ignored. Unfortunately, DHR was usually the fail point.
this was my childhood. Im 41 now. Diagnosed with PTSD and still go to counseling every month. This has devastating effects on children. It took my mom almost 25 years to leave.
We're the same age, and I am very blessed and fortunate that my mom left after only five years. Sometimes I try to imagine what my life would be like if she continued to stay for many more uears, like yours did. I pray for you, I'm sure you are a stronger person as a result of the trauma you've been through.
@@saathoff1220 I'm so sorry. 😢 In many ways, we are all simply just products of our environment which is why I always keep that in mind and try to tell others who will listen; that you never know what someone is dealing with or carrying around ( emotional and psychological damage). Bless you. You are not alone. 🙏
My husband also suffers from PTSD, anxiety and depression. I also don’t cook most nights because I hate cooking…..not once has he ever even raised his voice to me, let alone abused me. This man is an abuser and always will be…..medication or not.
The video did mention at 7:30 in that other people with the same conditions shouldn't be assumed to ever act in the same manner. I hope people catch and understand that part, because mental health stigma is a serious concern. On a side-note, I have suffered similar symptoms to your husband, being diagnosed with the same three afflictions. It may have taken me many years of living far away from the things that initially caused it, but my state has improved eventually. I don't know the full extend of his trauma, but I know that even in severe cases things can get better. Stay strong. I wish you and your husband best of luck.
My husband does, too. And he does all the cooking! And never once has he been violent with me. I can count the number of times he’s even raised his voice.
If Veronica ever sees this I want her to know I'm so very proud of you and your children. I'm thankful this situation was brought to an end before it got worse. I pray for you and your children that you may find peace, comfort, and security. You all deserve so much better. God bless you and keep you as well as your loved ones.
If your so-called god "blessed" her, or actually gave a dam, he wouldn't have allowed this to happen to begin with! Your god loves when victim's are created.💩
@@gns4838unfortunately it’s hard for victims to truly leave. like the video said, victims of abuse tend to go back an AVERAGE of 7 times. especially when you have children or in many women’s cases, were excluded from friends/family and have no job. on top of that, the abuser is really good at making it feel like everything is YOUR fault. if you just ___ i wouldnt have to hurt you. if you just ____ i wouldnt have to cheat on you. if you just _____ i wouldnt have to speak to you like this. it becomes hard to separate yourself from that person trying to make him happy and stay.
@@ashlynnkae8446 true, they become used to the abuse it becomes just a way of life and they're emotionally, financially, and psychologically dependant on them. If they get away, after a couple years they wonder why they didn't leave sooner but it is a process.
@@gns4838 She's not the first, and unfortunately, she won't be the last who feels that way. One of my best friends was in toxic relationship and she stayed with him because he kept threatening to take their children away, plus he was verbally and physically abusive. Getting into a relationship is the easy part. Getting out of a toxic one is the hardest.
Thank you to everyone who helped this family. Her 5 year old son may have saved all of their lives. I really hope they receive all the help they need to recover from the painful cycles of abuse and trauma, and that they have time and resources to ensure a safe situation before he gets out of jail.
THIS WAS MY LIFE from birth to 14. I grew up watching my father beat my mother from room to room to room for 14 years and she had to watch the same with him beating me. She became a master at covering our bruises and cuts with makeup. I begged her to leave him but she would literally freeze like a deer in headlights when he walked into the room. One day, when I was 14, my mom was at work and my father was raging on me and he fell to the floor grabbing his chest. I knew what to do to help him and I didn't. He died that day. I never told my mother or a soul about this to this very day. My mother passed away 4 months ago from cancer. She remarried an amazing man and had 30 years of happiness with him. She never would have left my father and he would have ended up killing her. Get help ladies or men if you are in abusive relationships. It's a lie they tell you to keep you afraid. They are the weak ones. God and good people will always be there to pull you through.
@@AliezahJuarez I wasn't talking about me. I was replying to someone else. When someone is leaving a relationship that is toxic and abusive they have to plan their escape. That is the most volatile time.
Thank u for putting so many facts about domestic violence in this video. So many people don’t understand what it’s like for a victim and this can lead to them blaming them.
With her bruises, why did they drop the strangulation charges?! He isn't having seizures or panic attacks, as his heart rate & blood pressure proved. A typical abuser, he is a liar & manipulative as all hell!! What a disgusting monster!!
DV survivor here. Took me 7 tries, worst 7 days of my life. Was with my ex husband for about 2 years before I realized I can't allow him to treat me like a ragdoll. Eventually it happened, I called the police and went to court to get a RÔ. My abuser himself eventually died from getting beaten on the streets. I learned people who love you will never abuse you. Please leave, plan accordingly and safely remove yourself. It’s not worth yours or your kids lives.
Wrong. Many will abuse you under the guise of love. Rewatch Tangled for an easy to understand example that hit close to home for a good majority of the population. Even more who claim it's love don't understand that what they're doing is actually abuse, like the classic grandma feeding the obese dog snacks. Love, like everything else, is ultimately a tool and can be wielded for good or evil.
Until you have lived through this in your life, I know it must sound really easy to leave but trust me it isn't. An abuser will over time alienate you away from EVERYONE in your life.
It's CLEAR as Day you are not a domestic abuse survivor cause you would know like it says in the video the most dangerous time is when they try to leave. Victims who've had restraining orders, move across the country get hunted down. How about you speak to the attackers?!?
We don't know that they are out! A phone call was made! I hope they got away from him, but we have no way to know. Most women go right back after a bit of sweet talk.
Thank God for the bravery of the little boy, the quick action of the bus driver, the fact that the officers listened to and believed Veronica and took action. Heroes all around!
huge respect that you took the time to explain the nuances of the situation and how hard it actually is to leave an abusive relationship. not many people would even care.
Believe me it’s hard, I am a middle class woman, own my own vehicle, have a loving pet, many friends, travel overseas yearly and it took me 6 years and counting to leave my husband, best thing I ever did but I suffered mentally for many years. Not easy and some don’t get out. 💔❤️🩹♥️
Thank you for the respectful way that you covered this topic. I hope that Veronica and the kids are now happy and safe, and that their abuser will never be able to hurt them ever again. Kudos to Vero for her quick thinking, for her son for his bravery, and for the bus driver for taking the son seriously and stepping up. From one DV survivor to the next, there is hope. Reach out. You are so very much worth it.
@@Weewoo0411 in Wisconsin and Michigan he would be awarded joint custody. Maybe some states actually care about kids but not here they don't. They don't even enforce restraining orders here
@up-uw4op I see, I didn't know that, and honestly, that completely sucks. Hopefully, he stays in prison for a long time, and she can get far away, maybe to another state too
@@Weewoo0411 500 kids murdered per year via family courts and even if she goes to a different state the courts will find her especially if she applies for any govt assistance
It's not 'Learned Helplessness', it's fear!........Fear that he will find you if you leave, or hurt your family if he can't. Fear of what he will do when the cops let him go, and knowing that restraining orders won't stop him. But most of all, it's a fear for the safety of your kids. If you leave or have him arrested, it's a fear that his rage and need for revenge will increase, and he will punish the kids as well as you next time.
I think it was last year, an autistic local young girl, tried the get the attention of her bus driver one morning by pounding on her window. Supposedly he was not allowed to leave the bus, and left the scene. The young girls father was having problems that day, and as it turns out she was in the house with her father who had passed away for 8 hours (parents were separated, and the young girl was later being picked up by her mother when they realized what happened. The bus driver definitely came under fire on that one
@fangirlsruineverything are you saying the kid had a note from his mother asking for help for years, handed it to people and they all turned a blind eye? Or are you saying people somehow knew he was being abused and turned a blind eye. I'm a bit confused as to what you mean.
@tezwah5651 That first question is illogical. The mother already confirmed that her own mother knew about the abuse, and it sounds like nothing was or could be done since he took her phone. I was asking how many other adults knew or, inquired, suspected, etc, before anyone helped. Neighbors, friends, family members etc.
Erik Alvarado deserves to spend the rest of his years behind bars. Guys like this don’t change. They don’t stop. And to quote Pete Davidson? “Being mentally ill isn’t an excuse to act like an asshole”
Absolutely!! There’s so many people walking around and living life with PTSD and bipolar depression (me included) I’ve never beat on anyone of felt the urge to. People need to stop using that as an excuse to be an asshole.
The bus driver and people that helped and are helping this woman. I give you my heartfelt thank you. Iam child of abusive father that did beat my mom in front of my eyes. destroyed my childhood and gave me trauma that wont go away thou Iam not longer in that situation. if children can survive this without taking to drugs and alkohole or becoming abusive themselfs, cause the trauma, it is miracle. Good support to these people going through abusive situation is the huge need. Even thou I soon are having my 55th birthday, Telling people that has PTSD cause abusive parent or spouse, you are not there anymore, do not play any role. the PTSD sits in the brain and is hard to learn off. Instead try to ask how can I help you so you can feel better and safe.
Convenient that he manages to fall on top of her when he has a panic attack… rendering her immobile. PLEASE LEAVE VERONICA - it took me 3 years & a lot more to heal, but it’s so worth it.
Glad you had the strength! And you’ve healed. I have severe ptsd and anxiety along with social anxiety, ive blocked much out, but took me along time to see my worth.
I'd encourage every woman to leave the first time they do it. I grew up with a violent dad and it's impacted every aspect of my life and my siblings as well as ruining our relationship with our mom. These men deserve nothing but contempt.
My goodness no child should be exposed to such traumatic experiences. Thank goodness her son followed through and a big thank you to the bus driver. I hope she left for good because her children deserve better than that
Please stop calling it 'learned helplessness' the most dangerous time for a woman is when she leaves. 'Learned helplessness' shifts the focus from the actions of the perp to the victim. It's NOT 'learned helplessness' it's coercive control! Also notice how he behaves with the police. This man knew exactly what he was doing.
I just watched a video done by a therapist about how most psychology today is based off the research of privilege white men and how the terminology is just seeped in misogyny and a general lack of empathy. Though she made the point that as the profession becomes more diverse and more healed victims become healers themselves it's slowly starting to change. 🎉
Exactly, and this sort of guy is the kind that will try to kill you when you leave and then he will try to get his kids so he has control over you. ....and from the statistics we know he just might get the kids.
People don’t understand what it’s like but still judge the victim. If it was as easy as walking out the door we would all do it but that not the case. The mental abuse starts long before the physical making you feel like no one wants you will help you. Holds your children hostage to ensure you come back from work. Their endanger until you walk back in the door. Don’t judge just help
Please, please remember that a restraining order is just a piece of paper! Yes, it helps to keep someone away, but somebody on his mindset doesn't care! This paper does not stop bullets, knives, punches, and strangulation... Be aware! I wish her and the children the best!
My mom had an ex boyfriend who pulled a gun on her, pulled the trigger, bullet jammed and the cops arrested him then released him and gave him his guns back in the same day. Lucky he ended up leaving but he tried 2x to kill her and got NOTHING for doing it.
It's odd the little boy told the bus driver instead of a teacher. Makes me wonder if maybe he told a teacher at some point and nothing was done. That's the way it is in a lot of schools.
@@kmarch6630The mother told him to tell the bus driver and that was smart. She didnt know how much time she had left. She needed help before the amount of time it would have taken to pick up all of the kids and get them all to school.
The fact that she wanted him to still see his kids 😢sad man sad…. I would never let those kids around him AGAIN! How stupid can you be if he puts his hands on you he would your children ! Education is so very vital I hope she gets the help she needs
Thank you so much for talking about the tactics abusers use to harm their partners, so many people blame the women for not leaving- not knowing how much psychological breakdown goes into the abuse.
Thank you for reporting facts about victims without victim shaming. I left my first husband and went back 6 times before I finally left for good and people couldn't understand it. In a 7.5 year time span I went from being a confident young woman/mother to a woman that was afraid to drive. I only had a few physical incidences but the verbal and psychological were constant. It took me almost 30 years to gain back my confidence and feel like a person again.
Been there, done that. It took me thirteen years. It took me a longer time to get over the shame. We have nothing to be ashamed about.We are survivors.
Thank you for calling out that not everyone with mental health disorders would ever act this way. I'm bipolar, and even when I am unmedicated it never gets abusive.
Seriously thank you for taking such an academic approach to discussing intimate partner violence. So many men who make videos like this don't understand the mechanics of an abusive partnership or the framework of emotional abuse and manipulation that is required to sustain such a partnership like you do. It's refreshing to see someone like yourself advocating for victims.
I was in that situation, and I am so happy I broke free. I am so happy she reached out for help praying that man stays far away from her and those babies.
Having PTSD anxiety and bipolar is not an excuse to hurt the people you say you love Iv been diagnosed with all 3 and never would i hurt my children or loved ones in such a way
We real men do not consider Eric a man ! Huge respect to the bus driver and Veronica’s son for saving the lives of Veronica and her children as I’m certain Eric would have significantly escalated his abuse given any more time and respect to the police who handled the situation so well 👍 Sending much love and support to this amazingly strong lady Veronica and her children ❤️❤️❤️❤️
because the videos are like 15 minutes long, explain what's going on, and aren't like "You won't believe what happens next!" like surprise surprise! Karen got shot while Tim was pointing a gun at her I
The fact that she’s not crying freaking out is really sad like she’s used to this I’ve been there she prob feels like it’s her fault if she never had kids she wouldn’t feel the need to stay with him prayers for her
Wow that young man saved his mom's life and probably, most likely his and his siblings I've been in a situation like that and Yes it is extremely hard to get away. Emotionally and Mentally you are so broken you start thinking you are the one to blame for the other's actions. I literally had to leave everything behind and stay somewhere he didn't know where the house was. My sister literally saved my life
Sadly, the only one who can save this mother is herself. She needs to make the choice to save herself by staying away from this man. It sounds very likely that she's back with him because charges were dismissed, meaning she likely did not cooperate with the DA/show up for court. In this video she was already asking the officers if her incredibly violent and abusive husband can still see his children after all of this. If she got back with him, I pray that dcf got involved and removed those babies from that home. If she got back with him, these children have zero safe parents in that home and are at great risk of harm. Im glad you made the choice to save yourself and leave your abusive situation! And I'm glad you had support along the way
@bryanb3352 what makes it so hard is that you blame yourself for what your abuser is doing to you. The abuser is usually manipulative and narcissistic. They will make you think that you will never be loved by anyone else and that you deserve their abuse. It is almost as if you've become brainwashed by them and it makes it nearly impossible to free yourself from it. It can be even worse when they control every aspect of your life. From your phone, to who you can talk to, isolating you from friends or family, keeping you in the house, etc. It can be even more dangerous when the person stalks you and won't leave you alone. Look into Stockholm Syndrome and signs of an abusive relationship. Edit: they can also become so manipulative to make it seem like YOU are the abuser to their family and friends, even your friends, and even to police if they are savvy enough. They are very dangerous and scary people. Always be aware of the signs. Because you don't understand, I never want you to. But please know the signs so it never happens to you. You're always worthy of a healthy love.
@@Lizzie-h3jthe state needs to stop requiring the victim to press charges and pursue these men to the fullest extent of the law. If mothers can't protect their children then the law has to!
I lived this way for 17 years. Part of the problem is the Court System. Only a month in jail after every assault,a list of things he was supposed to do like Anger Management Classes. He never did any of it and they never checked up on him. He always came out worse and angrier at me blaming me for sending him to jail. Leave at the first sign is my advice.
@@jetodessa5484 Thank u for asking. I am wonderful today. That was 10 years ago that I finally freed myself. I suffered from PTSD and it was really hard believing in myself for a long time. Today I live a very peaceful but isolated life and I am ok with that❤️💕❤️
@unacceptablehumanbeing8441 I'm so happy you made it out of that situation! I only lived it for 3 years. Getting up the strength to finally get out was so hard! I'm still in counseling, and this was 7 years ago. Sending prayers your way!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
It is sad that the world has come to something like this.. Thank god the mother had such a great son.I think her husband should get lifetime in prison for what he has doene!!
As a girl that has been abused as a kid and teenager, this is unacceptable. The mom did a good job here and so did the kid. This man Should be locked up and never be able to be put in a relationship ever again.
It took a lot of courage for the mother to get that note to her son too and see him leave with it, knowing the father could have searched the son’s backpack or his person since he was so controlling (e.g. not going to the bathroom without his wife to make sure she didn’t try to leave the house, taking her phone, threatening her, etc) or muяdered her, which we know happens to a lot of victims when they leave an abuser.
The mom has done a horrible job , she never once pressed charges against him despite being put in this situation many times before including going to the hospital . He also had previous demotic violence charges against from his previous realtionship she said it her self . Thank God the state decided to press charges because the mom clearly couldn’t do it. The mom clearly is putting him above her kids safety by allowing him to continue to be in their life . I had a mom just like her and I have so much trauma because of it . I am now a mom and I will forever and always choose my kids first.
@@amberlewis1568 What a sad comment. Just as it was said in the video by not only the mom but by the creator (see 3:45 minutes), she had no means to call the cops on her own. Also, she not only suffered emotional but physical abuse, tried to escape multiple times and failed, plus she has small kids. You, as a mom, would put yourself in a more dangerous situation that could possibly end with one's life and let your small children with a monster like that? I get that it's hard to understand, from an outside perspective because I also had a mom who was abused and stayed for almost 24 years and it caused a lot of trauma to both me and my siblings, but we need to understand they are doing the best they can with what they have.
@KyungSkk what are you talking about? She had a phone and was allowed outside the house prior to this particular incident. She absolutely had means to contact the police prior to this incident.
@@KyungSkk Let's not try to justify or normalize this behavior. There is no excuse to have a child in this kind of environment. If having a child in this kind of environment is a parent "doing their best", they are unfit to be a parent and dcf should intervene. The charges on this case were dismissed, suggesting that the mother did not cooperate with the DA/show up to court. People need to realize that it isn't all about them anymore when they have children. There's no excuse for a child being traumatized due to a parent's negligence
This is a win for the Justice department. They gave the family the ability to finally breathe and see the light. Seeds and flowers can't grow in darkness. They've not only did a tremendous service to the family, but the community as well 🙏🏾❤️
Veronica, bless you sweetie. You and your children don't deserve this. Stay strong so your children won't fall into the same pattern of abuse. What a strong mother and 5 year old son!!
It’s horrible that the way the victims survive is by convincing the attacker they love them, and then those same acts are used by others to shame the victim and blame them for allowing it to go on.
Also, many abuse victims genuinely DO love the abuser! You can both love and hate and fear someone. Thats why its so hard for them to leave, or take action
Bipolar person here.... skipping meds (on purpose or by accident) for ONE NIGHT does create a spiral and total resurgence of symptoms. If he actually takes his medication, the worst that he'll experience is starting withdrawal. He's just a bad person.
A restraining order is a joke. Time for women to take their rights away from men government included.......He should at least get 15 years in prison all men should for this type of crime
@@BogartBacall419even then theyll b way harsher on her then they ever were on him. Theyll jail her and shell have to prove that what she did was in self defense.
My brother is bipolar and more. He is violent when off his medication. At 14, I came home and said hi to him, and he blew his stack! He was 23, and our mom, also bipolar, blamed me. She needs to run.
It’s not just “perceived” lack of control, it’s real lack of control. He physically stops her - takes her phone, physique holds on to her, watches her like a hawk so he won’t even use the bathroom without her present. He terrorises her with violence as a warning as to what will happen if she leaves and the victim recognising this her escape methods won’t work - it’s not apathy or helplessness, it’s strategising so as not to trigger his suspicion hence, the note for the boy to give to the bus driver. She wasn’t “resigning” her fate, she sought help with the note via her son, so her actions should be “celebrated” as well as the son’s. Narrator went to overboard to paint her a as a willing victim. She clearly demonstrates she’s not willing. She couldn’t breathe and she knows each attempt endangers her and her children. She’s been planning carefully because she knows many women in her situation who leave end up de@d at the hands of the abusers who retaliate for the loss of control over the victims. The narrator needs to focus on suggesting theories but, not stating them like they’re fact.
I see many channels overexert their assumptions onto every little thing. They cant just stick to facts they just make up their own scenarios n people eat it up like its facts. Its so annoying.
Guess I'm not gonna be able to hold myself when I'm getting the same mental health issues as you and this man, I always get angry even at the smallest thing
I guess that's just you because I have the same diagnosis I smoke a lot of weed cuz I get angry and upset a lot so I smoke to not let my anger get the best of me
As someone who has been through not one but two very abusive relationships I'm so proud of her I know it's hard Trauma bond is no joke your brain actually changes due to the abuse sadly. I hope hers and those precious babies are doing well. Good job little dude!
I got away after 19 years of abuse. There’s a lot more crap. I suffered SA as a kid to. So it took me years to work through that to get to a place to be able to be strong enough to not take it anymore. I was choked SA by him to. Bless this lady and kiddies xx
This is one of the best true crime channels I've seen. The psychological explanations are accurate. So as a person with a degree in psychology I appreciate this! ❤
Thanks to the Bus Driver, he is their guardian angel. It hurts to see the fear in the baby girls eyes as her mother holds her. Veronica you need to GET OUT because the next time you won't be so lucky to save yourself or your children. You and your children do not deserve to live in such fear and violence, you all deserve better. Go to the nearest WEAVE shelter and get a restraining and protective order against your husband. Please GET OUT!
This needs to be a video used in police stations, social services offices and any other department in the chain of command to show how this process should occur every time. Bless that boy for being brave and passing along the note, but children should not have to be saving their families. Just because something is labeled "domestic abuse" does not make it just routine. If that was a stranger doing that to someone, they'd be arrested for attempted murder. The fact that it's someone a person trusts and loved makes it even more heinous, not less.
Preach! When you can't trust someone who claims to love you because they beat on you and/or mentally and verbally assault you, that should have a mandatory jail sentence that can't be reduced or dropped by anyone.
Awwww touched my heart. I hope she gets the mental help she needs, and for those babies as well. It’s a traumatic experience and so thankful for her child, able to set her mom free from that monster.
I like how you analyze the situations and explain what certain things mean, so people that are in this situation can get help and see that they are not alone.❤
I wish Veronica and her children the best with a future that is free from fear and uncertainty..Hopefully she and her children can start anew somewhere safe and far away from this monster
I've got PTSD, Anxiety and Depression because of past trauma. I wouldn't use it as an excuse to hurt anyone including my husband. I really hope she left and ran far from him. Hopefully she's safe now along with the children
I went thru a similar situation... im so happy now that my family intervened. Back then i was so scared he would come right back and hurt me and my baby worse than he had previously. He stalked me.... broke into my house at night and watched me sleep... he would even leave little things to let me know he had been there and how easy it was to get at me.
Lived like this and protected my mom from my sick dad. 20 years later I had a stroke which my Multiple Sclerosis caused. Autoimmune disease and many other traumas the kids will acquire. Meanwhile their assailant will always be free
She need urgent counseling. She will let him come back & endanger her & the kids, unless someone shows her how damaging this is to them. A violent restraining order did nothing to keep my husband away.
Way to discredit the bus driver, the cops, and even her kids that passed the note... Shove your misandry and woman worshipping and give credit where it's due.
@@mom.left.me.at.michaels9951 naw she was asking like a want not like a worried concern . U can tell by her previous question..she's like I know I need to press charges and why he's there but can he at least see his kids type shit.u can tell the difference when someones concerned this wasn't that. She would've asked what do I need to do to insure he doesn't see them had that been the case.
Battered wife syndrome. She wants her children to have a father figure, and as a victim she feels guilty (even though she shouldn’t) for taking that from them. I’m a psych major, and manipulation and abuse warp your perspective ENTIRELY. They instill a sense of insecurity into every decision you make, even after you’re long gone. I get its hard to understand, but she’s asking because she feels that since she spoke out, she took away their chance to have a dad.
To the bus driver. If you ever hear this, they trusted you enough to reach out for help. You are a beautiful person. Bless you Sir 🙏
YES❤ BLESS YOU DEAR SIR.
THANK YOU 🏆
much love ❣️
The young boy is a hero,too.They worked together.
@@eh-i1841 100% saved his family. What an amazing little dude
God bless you helping
@@eh-i1841definitely
Big up to the bus driver for clearly doing enough for the kid to trust him to take action.
To be fair it was probably just the first adult the kid saw.
@@tezwah5651 The son is deffinitly a hero. He must have been scared aswell, that the same thing happends to him if he does it.
@captainkeller2792 I agree the kid is a hero. However I'd argue he'd be more afraid the same thing would happen to him if he didn't do it.
@@tezwah5651 Please stop 🙄 Always someone who has to ruin it and be negative
@Ena48145 sorry if reality ruins it for you, but that's more a you problem than anyone else's.
Her sneaking the note out, the son giving it straight to the bus driver and the bus driver all made this work. I hope her and her children have an easier life ❤
Amen ❤
I hope the note asked for a 9V battery for the smoke detector. God bless and teach them basic fire safety.
I cant believe her son actually saved his own mother, what a smart boy he must be.
Not must be , he is a smart little man .
@@NotU-i9q oh yes sorry I'm not really good in english
Did you think he ENJOYED watching his mom getting hurt all the time?!
@@zoeyrochellezhombie829where tf do you get that? Literally no one said the kid enjoyed it bozo
@@Lucifer1zz stop sensationalizing this child's actions. This is not bravery, it's a desperate plea for help by the child to save his mother's life.. the very same mother who will put this same child in this same situation again by not cooperating with the DA, resulting in the charges being dismissed. This child should NEVER have been put in this situation. The mother has been hospitalized by this man before and then made the choice to continue to expose her children to him.
This child is suffering from ongoing NEGLECT in the home.. being exposed to significant violence on a regular basis.. and probably being a victim of the violence.. if not before this arrest, very likely once the charges were dropped. Im very concerned that this child will end up being subjected to retaliation by the father for giving that note to the bus driver.
I am crying because this was me over 19 years ago. I got out finally in the dead of night with 7 kids. I’m thankful everyday I found the courage finally and got out and got help. Today my kids are adults with beautiful families and I have an amazing life with a wonderful husband. It can be done your life can change just find your courage.
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Thank GOD you made it out alive with your 7 babes safely!!!! You all deserve a good life. You survived and found your strength to leave. As did I.
So proud of you I'm glad you and your kids are safe
7 Jesus you running a farm lol. But I am happy to hear you are all finally safe
Your very brave
As a Paramedic I’ve learned that strangling doesn’t usually leave marks like you might imagine. So don’t use that as a gauge of the seriousness. I hope she & her family are safe now!
Went thru this just Thursday night July 25th 2024. I was strangled but no one saw it so the cops let him go because I didn’t have any visual injuries. Paramedics weren’t called or anything for me
Yes, I was strangled but had very little physical marks. The injury was more so internal. People definitely expect extreme bruising but that's not always how it is
Been strangled and marks only appeared after about a week or so.
I got pushed down the stairs and thrown around by my ex… I called police and was hysterically crying bc I just wanted him gone and out of the house.. they looked at me and went to talk to him (he likes to play calm cool and collected so he looks like the calm one and I’m just crazy) the cops came back and told me that our story’s are different and that I didn’t have any marks and I’m the one that was being extra from their view then they threatened to take me bc of the glass bong I had on my table in the living room he said was mine and if I called again they would be taking me … after that I never trusted police ever again I had my whole body covered in bruises the next day … but at the time they saw no marks on me and based on that they blamed me for being the main confrontation starter… I hate police never has there ever been a time where I called them for help and they actually helped no they honestly usually just make the situation worse and don’t do anything. Or they don’t care and just take both(victim included) to jail and then the victim has to suffer even more for trying to call for help… it’s ridiculous.
Goodolboys do you live in Texas? My sister called 911 and told them he has a gun to my head. The police went to her house and there was no noise and no one answered the door. So the police just left . Yes he killed her.@@janayD31605
He's suffering from not getting his own way and nothing else. He's not having a seizure, he's having a temper tantrum!!
Abusive narcissist behavior
That's what I thought also😂 what a weirdo.😂
Right.
yup. he tried tho
Speaking as an epileptic, yeah not a seizure! You nailed it temper tantrum.
Kudos to the bus driver for calling and not just blowing it off. And especially to the child who literally got them out of this situation. I hope all heal ❤
Kudos to the mother, too. It took a lot of courage for her to risk the note and she persevered with a method her husband wouldn’t detect knowing if he caught her it could end her and her children’s lives.
Mandatory reporter.
@@choccolocco we’ve all been to school (most of us) and so we all know how it was to tell an adult at those places something serious only for them to blow it off. This is why I’m thanking the bus driver. Even though people who are in childcare are mandatory reporters, that doesn’t mean everyone of them reports something -which is gross don’t get me wrong but I’m just making a point to thank the bus driver in hopes that other people in positions of mandatory reporting DO IT !!
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Oh, I wasn’t taking anything from him, just pointing that out. But every incident growing up that I know of where teachers or whoever were told of abuse, it was not ignored.
Unfortunately, DHR was usually the fail point.
He was supposed to lol bus drivers are mandated reporters just like teachers, counselors etc. he was literally just doing his job.
this was my childhood. Im 41 now. Diagnosed with PTSD and still go to counseling every month. This has devastating effects on children. It took my mom almost 25 years to leave.
I hope youre doing ok
My mom never left. I'm 75 and still dealing with CPTSD. 32 years of therapy.
We're the same age, and I am very blessed and fortunate that my mom left after only five years. Sometimes I try to imagine what my life would be like if she continued to stay for many more uears, like yours did. I pray for you, I'm sure you are a stronger person as a result of the trauma you've been through.
@@saathoff1220 I'm so sorry. 😢 In many ways, we are all simply just products of our environment which is why I always keep that in mind and try to tell others who will listen; that you never know what someone is dealing with or carrying around ( emotional and psychological damage).
Bless you.
You are not alone. 🙏
Yes it definitely does
My husband also suffers from PTSD, anxiety and depression. I also don’t cook most nights because I hate cooking…..not once has he ever even raised his voice to me, let alone abused me. This man is an abuser and always will be…..medication or not.
The video did mention at 7:30 in that other people with the same conditions shouldn't be assumed to ever act in the same manner.
I hope people catch and understand that part, because mental health stigma is a serious concern.
On a side-note, I have suffered similar symptoms to your husband, being diagnosed with the same three afflictions.
It may have taken me many years of living far away from the things that initially caused it, but my state has improved eventually.
I don't know the full extend of his trauma, but I know that even in severe cases things can get better. Stay strong.
I wish you and your husband best of luck.
Your poor husband has to suffer all of that and on top doesn't get a good meal cause you "don't like to cook" poor guy
My husband does, too. And he does all the cooking! And never once has he been violent with me. I can count the number of times he’s even raised his voice.
@@fsinatra1911the husband can cook for himself.
Bipolar makes the difference honestly. Bipolar people can be extremely erratic and angry.
If Veronica ever sees this I want her to know I'm so very proud of you and your children. I'm thankful this situation was brought to an end before it got worse. I pray for you and your children that you may find peace, comfort, and security. You all deserve so much better. God bless you and keep you as well as your loved ones.
If your so-called god "blessed" her, or actually gave a dam, he wouldn't have allowed this to happen to begin with! Your god loves when victim's are created.💩
It’s unfortunate, it sounded like she still wants him at the end. Really sad.
@@gns4838unfortunately it’s hard for victims to truly leave. like the video said, victims of abuse tend to go back an AVERAGE of 7 times.
especially when you have children or in many women’s cases, were excluded from friends/family and have no job.
on top of that, the abuser is really good at making it feel like everything is YOUR fault. if you just ___ i wouldnt have to hurt you. if you just ____ i wouldnt have to cheat on you. if you just _____ i wouldnt have to speak to you like this. it becomes hard to separate yourself from that person trying to make him happy and stay.
@@ashlynnkae8446 true, they become used to the abuse it becomes just a way of life and they're emotionally, financially, and psychologically dependant on them. If they get away, after a couple years they wonder why they didn't leave sooner but it is a process.
@@gns4838 She's not the first, and unfortunately, she won't be the last who feels that way. One of my best friends was in toxic relationship and she stayed with him because he kept threatening to take their children away, plus he was verbally and physically abusive. Getting into a relationship is the easy part. Getting out of a toxic one is the hardest.
Thank you to everyone who helped this family. Her 5 year old son may have saved all of their lives. I really hope they receive all the help they need to recover from the painful cycles of abuse and trauma, and that they have time and resources to ensure a safe situation before he gets out of jail.
If you have to "take Medicine" to not abuse someone, then you need to be monitored 24-7
I agree.
Anyone with BPD needs monitoring for this reason
Absolutely ❤
@@Victoriaghh could say the same about mayo monkeys like u lol bane of humanity
@@VictoriaghhBPD is not the same as bipolar disorder. Btw
lmao, tough guy beating on a woman immediately lays on the floor screaming he's having a seizure once the cops come.
Right? Love all these tough guy characters that become immediate wet noodles when someone with strength rises to their challenge. P******s.
Yesss.. what a coward. Every woman should learn to fight.
@@juliesmyth3044no woman is able to fight of a grown men. Get youre head of the clouds
@@wendypeeters3675 really.. you've never met me..!
@@wendypeeters3675you act like most men are 6'4 240 pounds of muscle who can bench 200 when most men are 5'9
The way the baby girl is clinging onto her mother tells you all you need to know about their situation
THIS WAS MY LIFE from birth to 14. I grew up watching my father beat my mother from room to room to room for 14 years and she had to watch the same with him beating me. She became a master at covering our bruises and cuts with makeup. I begged her to leave him but she would literally freeze like a deer in headlights when he walked into the room. One day, when I was 14, my mom was at work and my father was raging on me and he fell to the floor grabbing his chest. I knew what to do to help him and I didn't. He died that day. I never told my mother or a soul about this to this very day. My mother passed away 4 months ago from cancer. She remarried an amazing man and had 30 years of happiness with him. She never would have left my father and he would have ended up killing her. Get help ladies or men if you are in abusive relationships. It's a lie they tell you to keep you afraid. They are the weak ones. God and good people will always be there to pull you through.
You were sent to to save her and you did just that.
if your mom left the courts would have awarded him joint custody of you
He would probably killed the both of you if she tried to leave. That is a really dangerous time.
@@t.h.8475 don't be a scardey cat and just get out. Have a plan you keep being afraid will never get you no where or anywhere
@@AliezahJuarez I wasn't talking about me. I was replying to someone else. When someone is leaving a relationship that is toxic and abusive they have to plan their escape. That is the most volatile time.
Thank u for putting so many facts about domestic violence in this video. So many people don’t understand what it’s like for a victim and this can lead to them blaming them.
My thoughts exactly, it’s very hard to just leave.
With her bruises, why did they drop the strangulation charges?! He isn't having seizures or panic attacks, as his heart rate & blood pressure proved. A typical abuser, he is a liar & manipulative as all hell!! What a disgusting monster!!
@jessw9794 They'll likely drop most of the charges. Las Cruces is the worst for actually prosecuting criminals.
@@evajung666 That's so disheartening 😢
DV survivor here. Took me 7 tries, worst 7 days of my life. Was with my ex husband for about 2 years before I realized I can't allow him to treat me like a ragdoll. Eventually it happened, I called the police and went to court to get a RÔ. My abuser himself eventually died from getting beaten on the streets. I learned people who love you will never abuse you. Please leave, plan accordingly and safely remove yourself. It’s not worth yours or your kids lives.
Wrong. Many will abuse you under the guise of love. Rewatch Tangled for an easy to understand example that hit close to home for a good majority of the population. Even more who claim it's love don't understand that what they're doing is actually abuse, like the classic grandma feeding the obese dog snacks. Love, like everything else, is ultimately a tool and can be wielded for good or evil.
Until you have lived through this in your life, I know it must sound really easy to leave but trust me it isn't. An abuser will over time alienate you away from EVERYONE in your life.
@@michellecook7586true it took my back & hip getting broken before I left. But yes, you can leave.
That rubbed mw the qrong way. Kearnwd helplessness? Like sounds like he woudve killed her if she lwft@@michellecook7586
It's CLEAR as Day you are not a domestic abuse survivor cause you would know like it says in the video the most dangerous time is when they try to leave. Victims who've had restraining orders, move across the country get hunted down. How about you speak to the attackers?!?
As a special educator, I've witnessed the effects of 5yo dealing with DV in their home.. he's a brave young man and glad he saved them
But, the question now is, did she finally have enough and follow through? Or is she back to being a punching bag?
@@FivePastOneI assume he’s in jail since they said he’s facing 8 years?
Hopefully @@Eucis93
Veronica, I am thankful you and your children are out of that dangerous situation.
You are a survivor!!❤
We don't know that they are out! A phone call was made! I hope they got away from him, but we have no way to know. Most women go right back after a bit of sweet talk.
Thank God for the bravery of the little boy, the quick action of the bus driver, the fact that the officers listened to and believed Veronica and took action. Heroes all around!
huge respect that you took the time to explain the nuances of the situation and how hard it actually is to leave an abusive relationship. not many people would even care.
Believe me it’s hard, I am a middle class woman, own my own vehicle, have a loving pet, many friends, travel overseas yearly and it took me 6 years and counting to leave my husband, best thing I ever did but I suffered mentally for many years. Not easy and some don’t get out. 💔❤️🩹♥️
true
Thank you to the officer taking her report. Hats off to him for his calm considerate demeanor.
Thank you for the respectful way that you covered this topic. I hope that Veronica and the kids are now happy and safe, and that their abuser will never be able to hurt them ever again. Kudos to Vero for her quick thinking, for her son for his bravery, and for the bus driver for taking the son seriously and stepping up. From one DV survivor to the next, there is hope. Reach out. You are so very much worth it.
THAT MOM AND SON WERE SO BRAVE TO ESCAPE THIS ABUSE! Wow!!! I pray for healing for her and her kids
no they weren't. he is the husband so he gets joint custody of the kids
Not in this case, because of the @buse and emergency restraining order, he will not be able to get joint custody @up-uw4op
@@Weewoo0411 in Wisconsin and Michigan he would be awarded joint custody. Maybe some states actually care about kids but not here they don't. They don't even enforce restraining orders here
@up-uw4op I see, I didn't know that, and honestly, that completely sucks. Hopefully, he stays in prison for a long time, and she can get far away, maybe to another state too
@@Weewoo0411 500 kids murdered per year via family courts and even if she goes to a different state the courts will find her especially if she applies for any govt assistance
It's not 'Learned Helplessness', it's fear!........Fear that he will find you if you leave, or hurt your family if he can't. Fear of what he will do when the cops let him go, and knowing that restraining orders won't stop him. But most of all, it's a fear for the safety of your kids. If you leave or have him arrested, it's a fear that his rage and need for revenge will increase, and he will punish the kids as well as you next time.
‘Learned helplessness’ was a terrible and incorrect term to apply to these situations. More like cognitive dissonance.
All bullshit scenarios that are nowhere near as bad or as likely as the actual living hell children are being put through by women who refuse to leave
Bus driver is an angel. I wonder how many adults turned a blind eye before this kid got help.
Wasn't it the school bus driver? Wasn't the kid going to school? Wouldn't that mean he was the first adult the kid saw?
I think it was last year, an autistic local young girl, tried the get the attention of her bus driver one morning by pounding on her window. Supposedly he was not allowed to leave the bus, and left the scene. The young girls father was having problems that day, and as it turns out she was in the house with her father who had passed away for 8 hours (parents were separated, and the young girl was later being picked up by her mother when they realized what happened. The bus driver definitely came under fire on that one
@tezwah5651 If the abuse had persisted for years before he entered school, then evidently not.
@fangirlsruineverything are you saying the kid had a note from his mother asking for help for years, handed it to people and they all turned a blind eye?
Or are you saying people somehow knew he was being abused and turned a blind eye. I'm a bit confused as to what you mean.
@tezwah5651 That first question is illogical. The mother already confirmed that her own mother knew about the abuse, and it sounds like nothing was or could be done since he took her phone. I was asking how many other adults knew or, inquired, suspected, etc, before anyone helped. Neighbors, friends, family members etc.
Erik Alvarado deserves to spend the rest of his years behind bars.
Guys like this don’t change. They don’t stop.
And to quote Pete Davidson? “Being mentally ill isn’t an excuse to act like an asshole”
Absolutely Agree 💯
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Right. They can’t.
Absolutely!! There’s so many people walking around and living life with PTSD and bipolar depression (me included) I’ve never beat on anyone of felt the urge to. People need to stop using that as an excuse to be an asshole.
The bus driver and people that helped and are helping this woman. I give you my heartfelt thank you.
Iam child of abusive father that did beat my mom in front of my eyes. destroyed my childhood and gave me trauma that wont go away thou Iam not longer in that situation. if children can survive this without taking to drugs and alkohole or becoming abusive themselfs, cause the trauma, it is miracle. Good support to these people going through abusive situation is the huge need. Even thou I soon are having my 55th birthday, Telling people that has PTSD cause abusive parent or spouse, you are not there anymore, do not play any role. the PTSD sits in the brain and is hard to learn off. Instead try to ask how can I help you so you can feel better and safe.
Convenient that he manages to fall on top of her when he has a panic attack… rendering her immobile. PLEASE LEAVE VERONICA - it took me 3 years & a lot more to heal, but it’s so worth it.
Glad you had the strength! And you’ve healed. I have severe ptsd and anxiety along with social anxiety, ive blocked much out, but took me along time to see my worth.
By staying, She's destroying her kids, I know how that is, If she doesn't leave, she will probably die, And. Maybe the kids too.
she can leave but any kids they share will go back for visitation
I'd encourage every woman to leave the first time they do it. I grew up with a violent dad and it's impacted every aspect of my life and my siblings as well as ruining our relationship with our mom. These men deserve nothing but contempt.
worthless in worthless
ladies , if he touches u even once.... get out
and men, violence either way is not acceptable and should not be tolerated.
yeah unless its the good touch like holding hands or something
@@Haaisley ye
@@yellowtgn ye but it’s less common. not saying it’s ok, it’s just as bad.
But he is so remorseful and loving. I feel bad because it's not his fault, he's sick.
My goodness no child should be exposed to such traumatic experiences. Thank goodness her son followed through and a big thank you to the bus driver. I hope she left for good because her children deserve better than that
Please stop calling it 'learned helplessness' the most dangerous time for a woman is when she leaves. 'Learned helplessness' shifts the focus from the actions of the perp to the victim. It's NOT 'learned helplessness' it's coercive control!
Also notice how he behaves with the police. This man knew exactly what he was doing.
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I just watched a video done by a therapist about how most psychology today is based off the research of privilege white men and how the terminology is just seeped in misogyny and a general lack of empathy. Though she made the point that as the profession becomes more diverse and more healed victims become healers themselves it's slowly starting to change. 🎉
So true.
Exactly, and this sort of guy is the kind that will try to kill you when you leave and then he will try to get his kids so he has control over you. ....and from the statistics we know he just might get the kids.
The bus driver and the police did excellent work. I wish mom and the kids a better and a happy future.
People don’t understand what it’s like but still judge the victim. If it was as easy as walking out the door we would all do it but that not the case. The mental abuse starts long before the physical making you feel like no one wants you will help you. Holds your children hostage to ensure you come back from work. Their endanger until you walk back in the door. Don’t judge just help
Please, please remember that a restraining order is just a piece of paper! Yes, it helps to keep someone away, but somebody on his mindset doesn't care! This paper does not stop bullets, knives, punches, and strangulation... Be aware! I wish her and the children the best!
So true. Most domestic abuser will violate a restraining order. They don't care. They will simply bond out.
Ive gotten so many RIZZtraining orders... But i just cant stop 🤪😛😛
@balabosofficial yep it such a funny subject! NOT!!!
It also doesn’t stop locked doors from being kicked in.
@@suzannegaglie6146 exactly thank you!
should have been charged with attempted murder.. strangling and choking. ridiculous
yea right he will awarded joint custody after 2 days in jail
My mom had an ex boyfriend who pulled a gun on her, pulled the trigger, bullet jammed and the cops arrested him then released him and gave him his guns back in the same day. Lucky he ended up leaving but he tried 2x to kill her and got NOTHING for doing it.
@@vampiregoat69giving the guns back is crazy work, what is wrong with America
It's odd the little boy told the bus driver instead of a teacher. Makes me wonder if maybe he told a teacher at some point and nothing was done. That's the way it is in a lot of schools.
@@kmarch6630The mother told him to tell the bus driver and that was smart. She didnt know how much time she had left. She needed help before the amount of time it would have taken to pick up all of the kids and get them all to school.
The fact that she wanted him to still see his kids 😢sad man sad…. I would never let those kids around him AGAIN! How stupid can you be if he puts his hands on you he would your children ! Education is so very vital I hope she gets the help she needs
That bus driver deserves major praise for immediately calling the police. And she did a great job to get help.
Little girl clinging is a sign. Sad sad
Please. Never ever go back to him. For this little girls sake. He is unacceptable.
The sad and scary thing is, he will come after her. It happens every day to victims of domestic violence. Restraining orders don't do shit.
Thank you so much for talking about the tactics abusers use to harm their partners, so many people blame the women for not leaving- not knowing how much psychological breakdown goes into the abuse.
Thank you for reporting facts about victims without victim shaming. I left my first husband and went back 6 times before I finally left for good and people couldn't understand it. In a 7.5 year time span I went from being a confident young woman/mother to a woman that was afraid to drive. I only had a few physical incidences but the verbal and psychological were constant. It took me almost 30 years to gain back my confidence and feel like a person again.
Been there, done that. It took me thirteen years. It took me a longer time to get over the shame. We have nothing to be ashamed about.We are survivors.
Love, just one physical incident is too many. So proud to hear another survivor gained her freedom. God bless you 🫶🏼
There was a slight bot of victim shaming when the narrator said "let herself be manipulated again".
What were the signs in the first year? How would you, eg, teach children how to leave in year one and never go back?
I left 2 years ago... but the fear wont leave me 😢
The little boy, and the bus driver are both absolutely amazing people, and the world needs more like them 💖
Thank you for calling out that not everyone with mental health disorders would ever act this way. I'm bipolar, and even when I am unmedicated it never gets abusive.
Abuse is a behavior. Psych meds cannot control behavios
@@haz.fellie I was just about to say this.
Faxx even off my meds I don't think to hurt anyone legit I just get more down and sad not wanting to hurt people
Seriously thank you for taking such an academic approach to discussing intimate partner violence. So many men who make videos like this don't understand the mechanics of an abusive partnership or the framework of emotional abuse and manipulation that is required to sustain such a partnership like you do. It's refreshing to see someone like yourself advocating for victims.
A very brave young boy and the bus driver is clearly a caring person, hats off to you sir whoever you are 👏👏👏👏
I was in that situation, and I am so happy I broke free. I am so happy she reached out for help praying that man stays far away from her and those babies.
Having PTSD anxiety and bipolar is not an excuse to hurt the people you say you love Iv been diagnosed with all 3 and never would i hurt my children or loved ones in such a way
Right I have bipolar depression and anxiety along with ptsd and I don’t do any of those things his problem is alcohol that’s what it seems like
BEING A CRACKHEAD WIFE N LYING IS BAD LOOK TO HOMIE
@@moongoddess238I saw the wrapper of the 3 pack modelos! Alcohol plus a mix of his medication is a NO NO.
We real men do not consider Eric a man ! Huge respect to the bus driver and Veronica’s son for saving the lives of Veronica and her children as I’m certain Eric would have significantly escalated his abuse given any more time and respect to the police who handled the situation so well 👍 Sending much love and support to this amazingly strong lady Veronica and her children ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Every child deserves a father, some fathers don't deserve children
Thanks for the quote man it really means a lot
Exactly
holy shit intense full body chills.. my turn to post this on the next 1000 true crime videos
@@konkero869😂
Same is said for mothers aswell and applies too. Stfu
This channel is better than Netflix documentaries
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because the videos are like 15 minutes long, explain what's going on, and aren't like "You won't believe what happens next!" like surprise surprise! Karen got shot while Tim was pointing a gun at her
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This is true
@WillowBlack888 even the videos that are 40 mins long are good
@@smok3sho587 okay 👌 👀✌
So proud of this lady and her brave children. I sincerely hope she gets a lot of support and lives a good life
The fact that she’s not crying freaking out is really sad like she’s used to this I’ve been there she prob feels like it’s her fault if she never had kids she wouldn’t feel the need to stay with him prayers for her
The fact that someone has kids and believes that is a reason to stay with an abuser is the sickest comment yet.
Wow that young man saved his mom's life and probably, most likely his and his siblings
I've been in a situation like that and Yes it is extremely hard to get away. Emotionally and Mentally you are so broken you start thinking you are the one to blame for the other's actions. I literally had to leave everything behind and stay somewhere he didn't know where the house was. My sister literally saved my life
Literally ?
@@ReadtheBible88What's hard about it?
Sadly, the only one who can save this mother is herself. She needs to make the choice to save herself by staying away from this man. It sounds very likely that she's back with him because charges were dismissed, meaning she likely did not cooperate with the DA/show up for court.
In this video she was already asking the officers if her incredibly violent and abusive husband can still see his children after all of this.
If she got back with him, I pray that dcf got involved and removed those babies from that home. If she got back with him, these children have zero safe parents in that home and are at great risk of harm.
Im glad you made the choice to save yourself and leave your abusive situation! And I'm glad you had support along the way
@bryanb3352 what makes it so hard is that you blame yourself for what your abuser is doing to you. The abuser is usually manipulative and narcissistic. They will make you think that you will never be loved by anyone else and that you deserve their abuse. It is almost as if you've become brainwashed by them and it makes it nearly impossible to free yourself from it. It can be even worse when they control every aspect of your life. From your phone, to who you can talk to, isolating you from friends or family, keeping you in the house, etc. It can be even more dangerous when the person stalks you and won't leave you alone. Look into Stockholm Syndrome and signs of an abusive relationship.
Edit: they can also become so manipulative to make it seem like YOU are the abuser to their family and friends, even your friends, and even to police if they are savvy enough. They are very dangerous and scary people. Always be aware of the signs. Because you don't understand, I never want you to. But please know the signs so it never happens to you. You're always worthy of a healthy love.
he still gets joint custody of the kids and the courts will force mom to share her address with him until the kids turn 18
Poor Veronica & amazing the son & bus driver called the cops.
If you don't leave him for you, you absolutely have to for your children!!
God bless her son. Those poor children🙏💕
Bless the mom.
It's not that easy unfortunately if it was there wouldn't be any DV.
@@Lizzie-h3jthe state needs to stop requiring the victim to press charges and pursue these men to the fullest extent of the law. If mothers can't protect their children then the law has to!
God keep them safe, give the mom the strength she might lack to keep this man away so he will never hurt them again in Jesus name.
I lived this way for 17 years. Part of the problem is the Court System. Only a month in jail after every assault,a list of things he was supposed to do like Anger Management Classes. He never did any of it and they never checked up on him. He always came out worse and angrier at me blaming me for sending him to jail. Leave at the first sign is my advice.
Hope you're doing OK now
@@jetodessa5484 Thank u for asking. I am wonderful today. That was 10 years ago that I finally freed myself. I suffered from PTSD and it was really hard believing in myself for a long time. Today I live a very peaceful but isolated life and I am ok with that❤️💕❤️
@unacceptablehumanbeing8441 I'm so happy you made it out of that situation! I only lived it for 3 years. Getting up the strength to finally get out was so hard! I'm still in counseling, and this was 7 years ago. Sending prayers your way!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
and he gets joint custody of the kids
mine was taught to do it even more , if you ask me x
She did so well to explain calmly with her baby in her arms.
It is sad that the world has come to something like this.. Thank god the mother had such a great son.I think her husband should get lifetime in prison for what he has doene!!
The world has been like this since the beginning of time.
@@kymmymorgan1551 sounds rought yet true af
@@bruh-im7gi It's rough af man 😭
the world hasn't come to anything, abuse has always existed
Come to this? Spousal abuse has been going on for hundreds, or actually thousands of years.
As a girl that has been abused as a kid and teenager, this is unacceptable. The mom did a good job here and so did the kid. This man Should be locked up and never be able to be put in a relationship ever again.
It took a lot of courage for the mother to get that note to her son too and see him leave with it, knowing the father could have searched the son’s backpack or his person since he was so controlling (e.g. not going to the bathroom without his wife to make sure she didn’t try to leave the house, taking her phone, threatening her, etc) or muяdered her, which we know happens to a lot of victims when they leave an abuser.
The mom has done a horrible job , she never once pressed charges against him despite being put in this situation many times before including going to the hospital . He also had previous demotic violence charges against from his previous realtionship she said it her self . Thank God the state decided to press charges because the mom clearly couldn’t do it. The mom clearly is putting him above her kids safety by allowing him to continue to be in their life . I had a mom just like her and I have so much trauma because of it . I am now a mom and I will forever and always choose my kids first.
@@amberlewis1568 What a sad comment. Just as it was said in the video by not only the mom but by the creator (see 3:45 minutes), she had no means to call the cops on her own. Also, she not only suffered emotional but physical abuse, tried to escape multiple times and failed, plus she has small kids. You, as a mom, would put yourself in a more dangerous situation that could possibly end with one's life and let your small children with a monster like that? I get that it's hard to understand, from an outside perspective because I also had a mom who was abused and stayed for almost 24 years and it caused a lot of trauma to both me and my siblings, but we need to understand they are doing the best they can with what they have.
@KyungSkk what are you talking about? She had a phone and was allowed outside the house prior to this particular incident. She absolutely had means to contact the police prior to this incident.
@@KyungSkk Let's not try
to justify or normalize this behavior. There is no excuse to have a child in this kind of environment. If having a child in this kind of environment is a parent "doing their best", they are unfit to be a parent and dcf should intervene.
The charges on this case were dismissed, suggesting that the mother did not cooperate with the DA/show up to court.
People need to realize that it isn't all about them anymore when they have children. There's no excuse for a child being traumatized due to a parent's negligence
This is a win for the Justice department. They gave the family the ability to finally breathe and see the light. Seeds and flowers can't grow in darkness. They've not only did a tremendous service to the family, but the community as well 🙏🏾❤️
Veronica, bless you sweetie. You and your children don't deserve this. Stay strong so your children won't fall into the same pattern of abuse. What a strong mother and 5 year old son!!
It’s horrible that the way the victims survive is by convincing the attacker they love them, and then those same acts are used by others to shame the victim and blame them for allowing it to go on.
Also, many abuse victims genuinely DO love the abuser! You can both love and hate and fear someone. Thats why its so hard for them to leave, or take action
Bipolar person here.... skipping meds (on purpose or by accident) for ONE NIGHT does create a spiral and total resurgence of symptoms. If he actually takes his medication, the worst that he'll experience is starting withdrawal. He's just a bad person.
A restraining order is a joke. Time for women to take their rights away from men government included.......He should at least get 15 years in prison all men should for this type of crime
Yes, because these are the men that come back and murder their partner!
And she can take measures to counter it permanently.
@@BogartBacall419even then theyll b way harsher on her then they ever were on him. Theyll jail her and shell have to prove that what she did was in self defense.
Nothing screws men more than the government. The fuck are you babbling about??😮
they should take away their parental rights too. but instead he will awarded joint custody
My brother is bipolar and more. He is violent when off his medication. At 14, I came home and said hi to him, and he blew his stack! He was 23, and our mom, also bipolar, blamed me. She needs to run.
I hope you broke off contact with both of them, and told them why.
Any "mother" protecting an abuser shouldnt be around children.
Ong
It’s not just “perceived” lack of control, it’s real lack of control. He physically stops her - takes her phone, physique holds on to her, watches her like a hawk so he won’t even use the bathroom without her present.
He terrorises her with violence as a warning as to what will happen if she leaves and the victim recognising this her escape methods won’t work - it’s not apathy or helplessness, it’s strategising so as not to trigger his suspicion hence, the note for the boy to give to the bus driver.
She wasn’t “resigning” her fate, she sought help with the note via her son, so her actions should be “celebrated” as well as the son’s. Narrator went to overboard to paint her a as a willing victim. She clearly demonstrates she’s not willing. She couldn’t breathe and she knows each attempt endangers her and her children. She’s been planning carefully because she knows many women in her situation who leave end up de@d at the hands of the abusers who retaliate for the loss of control over the victims. The narrator needs to focus on suggesting theories but, not stating them like they’re fact.
He enjoys it. It's his kink
Are you afraid to say 'dead'?
I agree that’s this is a misuse of learned helplessness.
I see many channels overexert their assumptions onto every little thing. They cant just stick to facts they just make up their own scenarios n people eat it up like its facts. Its so annoying.
@@zoeyrochellezhombie829 YOU TUBE penalizes people for using certain words. Yes, many of us have learned to disguise our words from being removed.
Her son is a true hero!!🙏❤️🙏
I truly love these short videos. They're so well done and to the point
I have the same exact mental health issues as this guy and never would I act this way or hurt others. This is NO excuse for any of his behavior.
Guess I'm not gonna be able to hold myself when I'm getting the same mental health issues as you and this man, I always get angry even at the smallest thing
I do to but idk sometimes I get so angry I want to be destructive I was diagnosed with the same things as well but I smoke a lot to keep me calm
I guess that's just you because I have the same diagnosis I smoke a lot of weed cuz I get angry and upset a lot so I smoke to not let my anger get the best of me
Same. On a mood stabilizer and I'm very slow to anger. Actually quite a happy person
Missing your medication for one day would not make you like this. He’s just horrid.
Exactly.
Exactly, he's just a bully with women and children.
As someone who has been through not one but two very abusive relationships I'm so proud of her I know it's hard Trauma bond is no joke your brain actually changes due to the abuse sadly. I hope hers and those precious babies are doing well. Good job little dude!
I got away after 19 years of abuse. There’s a lot more crap. I suffered SA as a kid to. So it took me years to work through that to get to a place to be able to be strong enough to not take it anymore. I was choked SA by him to. Bless this lady and kiddies xx
This is one of the best true crime channels I've seen. The psychological explanations are accurate. So as a person with a degree in psychology I appreciate this! ❤
Thanks to the Bus Driver, he is their guardian angel. It hurts to see the fear in the baby girls eyes as her mother holds her. Veronica you need to GET OUT because the next time you won't be so lucky to save yourself or your children. You and your children do not deserve to live in such fear and violence, you all deserve better. Go to the nearest WEAVE shelter and get a restraining and protective order against your husband. Please GET OUT!
God bless that bus driver.
This needs to be a video used in police stations, social services offices and any other department in the chain of command to show how this process should occur every time. Bless that boy for being brave and passing along the note, but children should not have to be saving their families. Just because something is labeled "domestic abuse" does not make it just routine. If that was a stranger doing that to someone, they'd be arrested for attempted murder. The fact that it's someone a person trusts and loved makes it even more heinous, not less.
Preach! When you can't trust someone who claims to love you because they beat on you and/or mentally and verbally assault you, that should have a mandatory jail sentence that can't be reduced or dropped by anyone.
@@kerseykrewzoo Agree, too much dropping the ball!
To the bus driver. If you ever hear this, they trusted you enough to reach out for help. You are a beautiful person. Bless you Sir
Awwww touched my heart. I hope she gets the mental help she needs, and for those babies as well. It’s a traumatic experience and so thankful for her child, able to set her mom free from that monster.
He had a diamond, but treated her like glass, she deserves much better xx
The bus driver was her and her kids angel ❤💙
I enjoy how Justice is served in these videos and broken down for views from abroad to understand.
✅Me too
I like how you analyze the situations and explain what certain things mean, so people that are in this situation can get help and see that they are not alone.❤
I wish Veronica and her children the best with a future that is free from fear and uncertainty..Hopefully she and her children can start anew somewhere safe and far away from this monster
no he gets joint custody
@@up-uw4opno he is not bc he got arrested. Try again
@@wendypeeters3675 he won't be in jail forever. I've also been studying family law over 10 years
I've got PTSD, Anxiety and Depression because of past trauma. I wouldn't use it as an excuse to hurt anyone including my husband. I really hope she left and ran far from him. Hopefully she's safe now along with the children
I went thru a similar situation... im so happy now that my family intervened. Back then i was so scared he would come right back and hurt me and my baby worse than he had previously. He stalked me.... broke into my house at night and watched me sleep... he would even leave little things to let me know he had been there and how easy it was to get at me.
Lived like this and protected my mom from my sick dad. 20 years later I had a stroke which my Multiple Sclerosis caused. Autoimmune disease and many other traumas the kids will acquire. Meanwhile their assailant will always be free
What a sweet mama I hope life gets better for her.
This is great police work!!! And kudos to mom and son working together to get that note to the bus driver...!!😊❤
This poor poor woman and her children. SMFH. My heart is literally breaking for her as she is explaining.
Your videos are a breath of fresh air, always enjoy watching
She need urgent counseling. She will let him come back & endanger her & the kids, unless someone shows her how damaging this is to them. A violent restraining order did nothing to keep my husband away.
Its sad how cruel this world can be
Yeah it's sad.
bro did not watch the vid
@@josevalee748fr fr
Not the world, people.
Many homeless people see how cruel it is, people walking by everyday not giving one #### about them.
I am so glad that bus driver found a note and helped. Let be proud of our bus drivers. God bless him. And God bless this family. 🙏❤️
Such a beautiful woman… glad she is now safe with her kids.
Bravo my dear child. U singlehandedly brought peace to ur home. May the abusive father learn to b a human
Way to discredit the bus driver, the cops, and even her kids that passed the note... Shove your misandry and woman worshipping and give credit where it's due.
Her asking if he'll be able to see his kids is ridiculous 😤
TBH she may be worried about how he will use custody battles or the kids to continue to manipulate her.
@@mom.left.me.at.michaels9951 naw she was asking like a want not like a worried concern . U can tell by her previous question..she's like I know I need to press charges and why he's there but can he at least see his kids type shit.u can tell the difference when someones concerned this wasn't that. She would've asked what do I need to do to insure he doesn't see them had that been the case.
Battered wife syndrome. She wants her children to have a father figure, and as a victim she feels guilty (even though she shouldn’t) for taking that from them. I’m a psych major, and manipulation and abuse warp your perspective ENTIRELY. They instill a sense of insecurity into every decision you make, even after you’re long gone. I get its hard to understand, but she’s asking because she feels that since she spoke out, she took away their chance to have a dad.