They could’ve had the career that Craig Mazin had potentially. He too got his start with shitty comedies, and now he’s doing prestige critically acclaimed HBO dramas. I feel like Freedberg and seltzer Got frustrated with their careers going nowhere, so they sold out and did what was easy and profitable.
I don't know which is more unfair; the fact that Seltzer and Friedberg did shitty spoof after shitty spoof or the fact that they never let their Liberace biopic come to fruition?
The use of Japanese-dubbed Epic Movie footage really sells how bad their spoofs were; Not just because Live-Action Dubbing is wrong, but because not even foreign voice actors can make Seltzer and Friedberg's movies funny.
This video is the culmination of your years long personal rivalry with Epic Movie. Great editing work! Very interesting topic! Weird that there was ever a possibility of the Movie Movie guys making actually interesting serious biopics.
Somewhat unrelated to the video but aside from Carmen Electra, looking back at these movies it feels like Friedberg/Seltzer seem to be projecting some... things they like into these movies. Casting a bunch of supermodels that aren't even actresses, making constant 'liquid/excrement on face' jokes, the weirdly grotesque and detailed fat jokes in Date Movie, and those upskirt jokes in 'Meet The Spartans'. At least in my opinion, it definitely doesn't feel like they're putting these in just for comedic effect.
Oh my god. It just hit me. The Movie movies are Friedberg and Seltzer's revenge on the entire concept of cinema for not getting their Liberace biopic made. It all makes sense now.
I'm really thankful you replied to my comment on that Scribbles to Screen video a while back, because without it I never would have found this. This was a really well made mini-doc, and you uncovered some really interesting info that not a lot of people talk about. Honestly after watching this, I have a sort of newfound respect for Friedberg and Seltzer. Sure they were utterly despised back in the day, but they clearly had passion and talent that just either wasn't able to be fully realized, or just didn't go into the right places. It'd be really interesting to see how tonally removed their Liberace script is from their infamous spoof films, and it's a real shame the world never got to fully see what they had to offer in the way of works that weren't low-brow pop culture spoofs. Great video overall; I look forward to seeing more short documentaries from you in the future!
This was awesome Jake. Though I wish the duo would have at least tried harder to push their more original scripts than to just give up and make parody movies out of slight laziness and contempt. Though it always did seem like they were just having fun and didn’t care a whole lot which is fine. I just hate that they gave up on such big potential
little thing about lonelygirl15, it was actually suppose to look real and be taken seriously. they staged a room and actress to act out in vlogs making it seem real, but before it could even gain a following people from something awful and 4chan and the like found out it was fake before it even started. after that the producers just rolled with it. it shows that, even back in the day, things can be easily be staged.
The constant references to other films in these spoofs just made the storyline feel disjointed and unfocused. For all the faults of The Starving Games and Vampires suck, both of them at least kept the focus within their same settings. The same cannot be said for Disaster movie and Epic movie.. Its a shame because they got some real talent in these films, Kal Penn and Fred Willard are genuinely talented comedians, the writing was just horrendous. I will admit though the 'We are the Pirates' music video in Epic movie, will dumb did me make me smile.
Honestly, I feel sorry for these two, they were very passionate about their work, but the spoofs never got out, & the good scripts were never made. Atleast spoof is still doing good on tv & online!
There is an an Avatar parody movie but not by those two...actually I don't think it's a parody movie but it basically sort of is and it's called Anatar.
Also a thing i saw on the internet that i want to share about regarding what happend to them was an interesting comment on this video: ua-cam.com/video/_LGi60rCoxc/v-deo.html (Date Movie commentary). Here is the comment made by UA-cam user Pedro Andres Padro Padro: Hello, my name is George Atwood, i´m the nephew of Dana Atwood, also known as Dana Seltzer, Aaron´s wife. And i gonna tell you guys that Aaron and Jason heard everything the internet said about them. This guys´ ego is beyond the imaginable. Aaron also tell me that they are developing a spoof trilogy about the Star Wars Trilogy. One script is written, the second one is not finish and the third one it´s the one who they don´t write yet. This was though commented in 2020 so it is not really a recent update.
Epic Movie had only one good thing and that’s Crispin Glover as the spoof version of Johnny Depps Willy Wonka Edit: I so wish that Liberace bio pic was made. I think Robin Williams would’ve made a perfect Liberace
Superhero movie is funny as hell and it’s because they didn’t write it, it was written by one of the writers of scary movie 3 and 4 which are goated movies
Your narration is great by the way. Your delivery is comedic gold.
Somewhere in an alternate universe all the Movie Movies are impactful dramas, in another universe there's a spoof movie about Liberace.
They could’ve had the career that Craig Mazin had potentially. He too got his start with shitty comedies, and now he’s doing prestige critically acclaimed HBO dramas. I feel like Freedberg and seltzer Got frustrated with their careers going nowhere, so they sold out and did what was easy and profitable.
I don't know which is more unfair; the fact that Seltzer and Friedberg did shitty spoof after shitty spoof or the fact that they never let their Liberace biopic come to fruition?
The use of Japanese-dubbed Epic Movie footage really sells how bad their spoofs were; Not just because Live-Action Dubbing is wrong, but because not even foreign voice actors can make Seltzer and Friedberg's movies funny.
Great video dude,their story feels like an fascinating mix between Gale and Zemeckis and Doug Walker
This video is the culmination of your years long personal rivalry with Epic Movie. Great editing work! Very interesting topic! Weird that there was ever a possibility of the Movie Movie guys making actually interesting serious biopics.
Thanks dent!
Ain't nobody ever gonna believe the Wayans ripped off these suits.
This video made me sad 😞
Somewhat unrelated to the video but aside from Carmen Electra, looking back at these movies it feels like Friedberg/Seltzer seem to be projecting some... things they like into these movies.
Casting a bunch of supermodels that aren't even actresses, making constant 'liquid/excrement on face' jokes, the weirdly grotesque and detailed fat jokes in Date Movie, and those upskirt jokes in 'Meet The Spartans'. At least in my opinion, it definitely doesn't feel like they're putting these in just for comedic effect.
Oh my god. It just hit me. The Movie movies are Friedberg and Seltzer's revenge on the entire concept of cinema for not getting their Liberace biopic made. It all makes sense now.
I'm really thankful you replied to my comment on that Scribbles to Screen video a while back, because without it I never would have found this.
This was a really well made mini-doc, and you uncovered some really interesting info that not a lot of people talk about. Honestly after watching this, I have a sort of newfound respect for Friedberg and Seltzer. Sure they were utterly despised back in the day, but they clearly had passion and talent that just either wasn't able to be fully realized, or just didn't go into the right places. It'd be really interesting to see how tonally removed their Liberace script is from their infamous spoof films, and it's a real shame the world never got to fully see what they had to offer in the way of works that weren't low-brow pop culture spoofs.
Great video overall; I look forward to seeing more short documentaries from you in the future!
This was awesome Jake. Though I wish the duo would have at least tried harder to push their more original scripts than to just give up and make parody movies out of slight laziness and contempt. Though it always did seem like they were just having fun and didn’t care a whole lot which is fine. I just hate that they gave up on such big potential
little thing about lonelygirl15, it was actually suppose to look real and be taken seriously. they staged a room and actress to act out in vlogs making it seem real, but before it could even gain a following people from something awful and 4chan and the like found out it was fake before it even started. after that the producers just rolled with it. it shows that, even back in the day, things can be easily be staged.
Great video! Really underrated topic, keep it up!
The constant references to other films in these spoofs just made the storyline feel disjointed and unfocused. For all the faults of The Starving Games and Vampires suck, both of them at least kept the focus within their same settings. The same cannot be said for Disaster movie and Epic movie..
Its a shame because they got some real talent in these films, Kal Penn and Fred Willard are genuinely talented comedians, the writing was just horrendous. I will admit though the 'We are the Pirates' music video in Epic movie, will dumb did me make me smile.
1:01 how’d you get that clip of the epic movie interview? I can’t find it online anywhere. Also really good video, I like how it’s put together
It was on the Unrated DVD of Epic Movie. I ripped it from the disc myself. And thanks!
@@AdventureMaster18 alrighty thanks! And no problem
The Wayons' worst movies look like Citizen Kane compared to anything by F&S!
I’ve lately been curious whatever happened to the two. They haven’t done any movies since the 2010’s.
That’s probably if not definitely a good thing
I like the part when he does the trailer for it
Honestly, I feel sorry for these two, they were very passionate about their work, but the spoofs never got out, & the good scripts were never made. Atleast spoof is still doing good on tv & online!
The only love coming from those movies is their love for carmen electra's body.
4:05 Hot for THE Teacher?
REALLY???
Sorry, some mistakes fall through the cracks when writing and recording lol.
There’s no way the films they made actually cost the $20 million they were budgeted as.
They're the anti-Matt Stone and Trey Parker!
There was always some drama behind the scenes of the Scary Movie franchise.
There is an an Avatar parody movie but not by those two...actually I don't think it's a parody movie but it basically sort of is and it's called Anatar.
It *is* a parody. It was made in Italy and the characters look like ducks.
underrated video!
This is the ultimate culmination of all your hate for movie movies lol
Instead of continuing on the path of making more dramas they doubled down on the spoof thing
18:09 It says *NGL, monobrow aside, she kinda fine… don’t judge me.
Thanks, I was trying to figure out what that says
I'd appreciate that instead of the narrator talking about their career, they themselves touched upon it.
Also a thing i saw on the internet that i want to share about regarding what happend to them was an interesting comment on this video: ua-cam.com/video/_LGi60rCoxc/v-deo.html (Date Movie commentary). Here is the comment made by UA-cam user Pedro Andres Padro Padro:
Hello, my name is George Atwood, i´m the nephew of Dana Atwood, also known as Dana Seltzer, Aaron´s wife. And i gonna tell you guys that Aaron and Jason heard everything the internet said about them. This guys´ ego is beyond the imaginable. Aaron also tell me that they are developing a spoof trilogy about the Star Wars Trilogy. One script is written, the second one is not finish and the third one it´s the one who they don´t write yet.
This was though commented in 2020 so it is not really a recent update.
Glad they haven’t worked on anything since 2015 cuz to that I say: GOOD FCKING RIDDANCE
Epic Movie had only one good thing and that’s Crispin Glover as the spoof version of Johnny Depps Willy Wonka
Edit: I so wish that Liberace bio pic was made. I think Robin Williams would’ve made a perfect Liberace
I was thinking about that scene last night. That and the Snakes on a Plane parody were the only moments that made me laugh.
Vampires Suck and Super Fast actually have some funny bits in them and so does Superhero Movie but I don't think these two idiots worked on that one.
Superhero movie is funny as hell and it’s because they didn’t write it, it was written by one of the writers of scary movie 3 and 4 which are goated movies
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Epic movie rocked. Seen it many times, stop being connaisseurs and watch a Fellini movie if you wanna be like that