A Rural Vermonter day ok, I think the 2020 is the best for performance, the 2010, is the best bang for you buck, and I think the K10 is the funnest and easiest to repair, as of how simplistic things were back then
goodtogoace the old motors are always more reliable you can fix them on the side of the road in a new truck you have to get towed and nobody will put a new engine in these new trucks in 30 years they will be sitting and rotting
The '86 K10 is 34 years old. Yes, it's not as comfortable, powerful, etc. But.... Will the 2020 still run in 2056? And if a sensor fails you're stuck. The K10 can be fixed with basic tools. New is NOT better. More comfy, powerful, etc. but give me reliability everyday of the week.
On average new cars are much more reliable than older vehicles. I certainly don't miss carbs, don't miss changing out condenser points, I don't miss lubing the chassis, ball joints, U joints, etc. I don't miss the overall lifespan of a vehicle being about 100k miles. And I don't miss having to be on the lookout for rust after about 5 years. For a daily driver, give me the new vehicle every time.
if new wasn't better, it wouldnt have been released in the first place. I'd take reliability every day of the week as well, which is why I'd take the new one. overall, I'd still suck it up and understand I'd get a less efficient, weaker, overall worse platform and go for the old k10 because of personal preference, but from a pure logical and statistical standpoint I'd be labeled insane haha
@@rustypliers74 yeah i do agree with that too. the overall idea of technological advancement is to make such assumptions like that become true, but capital gain has clouded that mindset and a lot of companies also tend to fill their products with useless technology and build qualities just because they can. I'm by no means a brand loyalist but I've seen heaping piles of garbage come out of Chrysler's production lines. i know people with those new ram ecodiesels that blew a motor at 15k miles. my friends' grand cherokee has 100k on the chassis and has been through 2 motors, and the current one has already developed some lifter noise haha
Ok wait 40 years and try those tests again ! Spoiler . The 2 newer chevs will be toasters or coke cans and the old chevy will be all by itself or with 2 2050 or 2060 chevs.
253k on my 09 still got all the power in the world fuel pump just went out today but other than that all original and almost all these miles had a trailer behind it so it’s pretty reliable
New cars are not meant to last, max 5-6 years then they should be thrown away and you should buy a new one (in the eyes of car makers). Specially the parts they build in the new cars are meant to break after a few years or miles... so it is really insane to even buy a new car.
My 94 GMC half-ton is still going strong at 26 yoa. The 350 has never been opened. It's on starter 2 and alternator 2. Keep your vehicle maintained properly, and you'll realize real value at a time when things are getting too expensive. Interesting video. Thanks
The newer silverados aren’t bad at all, Ive got a 2015 z71 with the 5.3 and almost 215k on her. Doesn’t skip a beat and doesn’t require much. Regular maintenance goes along way for keeping them going. Had her rhino lined early and haven’t had any rust. How they last depends on how you care for it.
It's overpriced but it's not just gm that does it, all the new trucks are priced way to high!! In my opinion this truck will last longer than its counterpart and it looks better
Actual transaction price on ALL trucks is usually way under MSRP. In fact that GMC might have sold for well into the $30s and for what it is, as a new 3/4 ton truck, that is a damn good value.
I have a 86 C10 in Arizona, no rust looks like new underneath. Alot of work been done to it runs and drives great. Just hauled trash to the dump with it this morning.
I take a 98, 01,84 because of the 88-98 99-02 14-15 z71 like grille, 15, any six speed gmt900 1500 of the 07-13 series. I named the look of year of every gen GM truck preferably Chevrolet.
K10 for sure. I dislike how all new trucks are all about the ridiculous grills and over use of LED lights. You could have used a db app on your phone for noise.
The grills are necessary though as the radiators are massive and you need air flow when towing above 12k pounds or even over 30k pounds in the diesels.
@Luis Bolanos eh I disagree. I always find it cool when an older vehicle, whatever kind, drives around. If anything, that's better to be unique and not just fit into a monotonous society. But, preferences aside (because saying old trucks look better etc is ALL preference) you are correct. New trucks are better in every single way possible except for simplicity. But the simplicity was a double-edged sword.
@Luis Bolanos yep I totally agree. that's where I'm at too. I would take the old truck because of the novelty. Using a 36 year old truck to haul a backhoe up the mountain passes? Yeah, lemme pre-tune my carb for the elevation, and have fun with my terrible powerband, gearing, brakes, and suspension. these trucks, while they defnitely (to me, at least) have more novelty and look cooler, definitely could never stand up to the standards of today. Ask a hotshot driver whether they'd want a brand new truck to pull their goosenecks or some 35 year old shitbox haha!
GMT400 series trucks most dependable on the road, 94 Blazer k1500 315k miles and has never let us down, unlike the 2015 dodge challenger rt which has been in for repair over 10 times already.
Excellent comparison video! The best things about the 80s and SOME similar makes and models and those of even earlier manufacture is that they are much more owner/back yard mechanic friendly due to their simplicity (far, far fewer electronic components if any for example). Since I started watching your videos, and while I was looking for a "beater" for hunting and fishing trips, I discovered that trucks like your K10, that are still road worthy, especially those with functional 4X4 capability, are being horded like some folks are hording Charmin these days. If they have such trucks they "ain't for sale". The same is becoming true of newer trucks like my '05 Z71 Colorado and your '10 Silverado. As usual, an enjoyable and informative video....Keep 'em comin'!
Worked with Ram for almost a year. According to their engineers, and designers for Chevy, Ford just the Big 3 in general. That making the roll down window option available in trucks is actually more costly on the manufacturer’s part than powered windows, but it still remains the cheaper option on the price tag, and more affordable go to repair for the buyer.
Honestly, not suprised lol. I went from driving a 1980 Chevy k10 to a 2011 Silverado 1500, and now I have a 2020 Silverado 1500 and its noticeably quieter and faster/powerful in the new ones. Great video! 👍
Great and interesting video, for me I'd take the Silverado as a daily because its capable and the best value for money. The K10 would be second because its a truck with a lot of character.
I'll take the old k10 over any modern "truck" for sure. I can't stand the overuse of leds which makes night visibility worse, or modern electronics that just breaks and are expensive to repair. And no, I am actually a millenial
me and my 95 z71 4x4 are not parting ways. Tougher, cheap plentiful parts and just cool af. paid 3k will never make payments so some dealer can buy another boat, just crazy.
305’s were reliable like all SBC’s, but they’re absolutely gutless, and you’re better off spending $100 to buy a 350 and then throw a cam and top end build on it for another $400
You definitely don’t know the slightest thing of what you’re talking about, but that’s okay just don’t talk like you know something on the internet when you don’t.
The squarebody is still relevant, that's the key. They were called GM's last real truck back during the 90s and early 2000s. I could go on and on. Squarebody for me.
$4K for my 95 K1500HD. You don't buy it for gas mileage or pussification. I bought mine in 2018 as a gift to myself. 187k miles and now 233k replaced the alternator and it took longer going to the auto parts place then to replace it! Great video.
The K10 is legendary, about the only major potential issue is rust. On the off chance it actually breaks down there's spare parts everywhere, and there's nowhere near as much electronic crap to worry about, so it's easy and quick to fix. If it wasn't a decades old design we'd still see them being used as fleet vehicles.
I had a 1980 Chevy 4by4 for about 20 years .took it to Lyndonville Vt on our Hooneymoon! LoL I do miss it I see yours had to be redone or it would be a bucket of rust! Great work Trucks
1980 last year a 400 SBC could be ordered in a C/K pickup. Same as the new HD you have basically. EPA shut the auto manufacturers down . Now it seems they’re less strict . Good thing
That was cool. Pick up trucks have never been more capable than they are now. How much they cost, cost and ease of repairs, and how long they will last is a different story. In the rust states, 10 to 15 years is old for a truck.
I had a 05 GMC 1500, an 09 GMC 1500 and a 2012 GMC Canyon, all 3 died due to emission computer modules (1 of 3 possible modules at $900 a piece, no exchange if the dealership replaces the wrong one). Canyon lasted the longest at 345,000 miles, other 2 died around 200,000 miles. Recently retired the Canyon for a 82 GMC C2500 because she is dead simple to maintain, no computers and she rides nice for a truck, will probably exchange the Carburetor for a Holley Sniper Throttle Body kit. The Square bodies will outlast the others based on maintenance (cost and ease).
The gauge clusters on the new gen chevys are just god awful. Idk why they switched them up from the previous generation, which just looks way better imo
I mean, your 2010 is just a WT... I have an 04 Tahoe with a screen, navigation, 2 person memory, adjustable pedals, auto dimming mirrors, heated mirrors, heated seats, push button 4wd of course, auto 4wd, per tire psi indicator, on the fly driving computer with all the same stuff as today's.... MPG instant, average, trip a and b, oil life, washer fluid level, etc... all the same stuff as modern. Also has a drop down screen and DVD in the back, rear ac and heat, rear radio, cd, dvd, audio aux... I mean... most of this could be had in the 99 Escalade or Yukon ... or even the Tahoes back then. Similarly you can get different towing packages, engine options, etc. Even the Tahoes and such could have 6L, and they are all LSX based now... so they've all been extremely reliable since the 00/02 era... depending on vehicle. You've just got a certain group of vehicles there, but not really indicative of what the eras offered a whole. That 2010 WT had in dash screen options for example, nav, onstar, etc... had a luxury interior model and so forth. Had other engine options, amenities, etc...The 2020 is specifically a large caliber work tuck, towing in mind. I mean, I guess this is all well and good as a comparison of three different generations of three different types of truck. Okay, really, the 86 and 10 were close enough, the 2020 was too far up in scale regarding what it was... the large scale 6.6 fleet work truck and all. The other two were basic standard cab, stripped down, truck trucks with basic engine options for their era... in whatever various state they happen to be in under your ownership today. The other one is a brand new high caliber fleet hauler with max engine option and full interior base tech loadout. Quad cab and all... so again, it just sort of stands out. Would have almost been more interesting with a base 86, base 96, base 02, base 06, base 07-10ish, then maybe the 20... Those all have distinct difference though, even in WT model, and would likely show a lot more nuance in some, and a lot more insane jumps in performance in others.
Of course, the people walking up the road think he's crazy, pulling another truck up the hill with 3 different trucks and hauling them down again! Lol!
I think for a daily my top pick would be the 2010, nice combination of modern and simple, everything you need not too much that you don't. Definitely would take the K10 for a fun/project truck, nothing quite like a classic squarebody truck, whether it be GM, Ford or Dodge. I mostly agree with your take on the reliability but I also would consider how much easier that K10 is to work on, sure you don't have OBD2 diagnostics but it's a dead simple powertrain to work on and keep running. My daily right now is my '05 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 Hemi (before the MDS crap.) Not the most well maintained truck, some clunks and sounds here and there, power steering is about shot, but she's got the badge of being a 200K+ mile truck on the original engine and transmission. I've hauled about 4-5 thousand pounds with it, hauled my buddy's broken down Ford Ranger on a sketchy car dolly. Maintained 45 MPH fine, could've gone faster but we didn't trust the dolly. For the most part all I ever put into the truck is fluid changes, only time I was stranded was by a bad starter cable, ended up getting a new starter too but she starts up like a dream now. This was one of the best comparisons I've seen in a long time, honest and you actually tested the things that matter in a truck, great job!
In my opinion, I would rank the trucks this way. 86 - Most fun on the property, around town, getting lunch and dinner 2010 - Much better for around town and longer hauling trips. Would likely use this for most of the towing and hauling just because of better suspension over the years. 2020 - If I'm being payed to haul something a long distance and *need* everything to work. I would love the 86 for fun little trips and use the 2010 for more "this needs to get done" type work. 2020 only if it's for my job.
Bruh you saved my pockets! I have a habit of buying less practical classics... I've been torn between a clean 1983 Dodge Ram 302 (with some wobble issue) and a 1992 Ford Ranger 5.0 both low kms and around $7k. I appreciate your advice and i've chosen practical>looks (given the current crisis we're facing, its not showy time). Thanks for the great video man.. just what I needed to see. Stay safe. Peace from Canada
The 2020 it's a beast, I know there's a lot of "I'll bet it won't make it to 30 years bla blah" but its a beast, one gen that's was left is the 88 to 98 or so... That was the must reliable gen, was simple, good power etc etc all the parts are so cheap , the interior is more comfortable than the years before, better mpg etc etc I love that generation, and next... The ones whit the first 5.3 I think where so good , better than the ones that got after 2008 or so... They where more refined but still a truck that where basic to us to repair , they are no so techy ... And the Ls based engine are great for gaining hp with a little effort. Yeah the 86 is good.. but it's something that is in our hearts hahaha I thing the next generation (88-98) put two world's together reliable and confort ,the next one (2000 to 2007 or so)sadly where the last generation for me to be reliable... The new ones? If I got the money.. I will buy one.. to give up on him in 4 or 5 years. I got a 95 Dodge Cummins, I live it, but my 2001 f250 is better in every thing except the engine hahaha better brakes, comfort, power, suspension etc etc and my 2003 Dodge Cummins is better than the other ones.. I got to say Eather gas or diesel... 2006 to 2008 Sims to be the dead of "I will easily and cheaply repair it " that's why I keep my old trucks...
Hi, I like your videos! And wanted to say the 2014 is when the screen with Bluetooth and the electric components upgraded. I had a 2013 Silverado that had the same electrics as your 2010 Silverado.
Id like to see a towing test with more comparable older vehicles. Would be curious as to how an 86 with the 454 long bed CC would do vs the new Sierra. People forget the additional focus newer half tons recieved after the tundra was released with a 10k lb towing capacity. Before then they weren't built or rated to tow much at all.
He's definitely using the wrong old truck for a comparison. I'd use an old 2500 automatic with a 454, preferably a single cab. I know those can go from 0 to 60 in 7 or 8 seconds depending on the truck.
My work truck is a 2008 Chevy 3500 Silverado with about 65,000 on it. I was supposed to get a new 2020 Chevy truck similar to your GMC ,but due to covid-19 budget cuts they cancelled the order. So my old truck will get the rear fenders patched up (again) and the engine rebuilt.
Yea K10 has the character! I know if I take the K10 on a road trip with friends it'll feels more like a real road trip with good memories. We would be able to say "Hey remember when we drove the old truck to Maine?" (Etc) K10 wins.
Remember the good old days when pickups were the cheap alternative to buying a car? Good, basic transportation with no frills. Now pickups are like driving a space shuttle with all the screens, bells, whistles, and required options they come with, and they've completely priced themselves out of the reach of people who actually need a new pickup truck. Guess I'll continue to make do with my '96 Ram.
I own 85 K10 75,000 original miles under powered 305. I bought new in 2005 Chevy 1ton four wheel drive with a 364ci (6.0) work truck it has 220,000 miles and I still use it today. Also I bought a 2016 3/4 ton Chevy four wheel drive work truck with a 6.0. It has 56,000 miles. In my opinion their all great. My 85 wasn’t made for towing but all 3 trucks can take a hell of a beating. Chevy “ Like a rock “
A Rural Vermonter highway or city? I’ve gotten about 16.6 average doin like 90 on the highway in a Silverado of a similar gen you got. The v6 f150s tend to get about 1-1.5 mpg better doin 90 on the highway.
@@funnypranker34 definitely not doing 90 lol. Speed limit is only 65 here.... these numbers are just from my commute which is a mix of highway and city
I’ve had 79, 83 and a 86 all lifted K10’s. My 79 has 300,000 miles and a rotted body with rotted shackle and is still drivable. Mean while my 01 Sierra with 174,000 miles blows a relay and won’t move 😂
I'll give you a pro-tip: I'm pretty sure you can swap starters between that '86 truck and the motorhome. I can tell by the sound that the truck has a nice high-torque, gear reduction starter on it which is ideal for the heat soak issues the RV is having. What you need to know is, there are two flywheels and flexplates. Either a 153 tooth or a 168 tooth. You identify which you have by looking at the starter mounting bolt pattern. If they are straight across, it is 153 tooth. If they are offset, it is 168 tooth. Starters don't interchange between the two sizes, but they "should" between like sizes no matter the engine. Do your own research beforehand, of course.
Are big block and small block starters the same? On small blocks I do believe that trucks used the 168 tooth. Cars with a 305 used the 153. My go to gear reduction starter is crossed from a 98 Silverado with the L31 350.
They still offer the manual windows in the 2020 but you have to buy a specific work truck that I think your company has to buy. Correct me if I’m wrong but I know they offer manual windows in some of the single cabs
Although i love my RAMs more than Chevys, i’ll give them the respect they deserve. My favorite chevy truck body styles (sorry i don’t exactly know the years) 03-06, 06-13, and 13-16. the new chevys look horrible.
The new rams look almost as bad as the fords. I didn’t like dodge or rams although the last body style in my opinion was the best looking, the new front end of the ram looks like a version of a jetta front end
OffRoad RiverFishing That’s why i prefer the 4th gens, they are refined, and don’t have as many issues as the 5th gens. I’m a chrysler guy but the 5th gen needs to get many many many issues sorted out.
Good video. Thanks for making content for all of us in quarantine. I wish I had more time in Vermont to do a colab, but this mess won't let that happen.
On the K10, I know you said that there was cherry bombs on it. Was that it? No catalytic converter or anything? I have a ‘81 Blazer I wanna pipe up a bit but it has a catalytic converter and they quite it down pretty good. Just wondering if it’s pure glass packs or if there’s a catalytic converter behind it.
Cool video!! Please get a wireless mic or overdub your voice when you are away from the camera, otherwise it’s hard to hear you. I had a 2007 GMC Sierra 1500 5.3L and really liked it. Recently upgraded to a 2015 GMC Sierra 1500 5.3L All Terrain crew cab with 6.5 foot bed (a bit rare I think), and man it is a sweet truck! It’s powerful, quiet, luxurious, and tough! The newer ones are more complex, but I think they will last with some decent maintenance (like any mechanical device, if you treat it right, it will treat you right).
That k10 is still running after 34 ,those other two won’t live up to that, that’s why the K10 is the clear winner imo
Well the k10 does have less miles than the 2010
A Rural Vermonter day ok, I think the 2020 is the best for performance, the 2010, is the best bang for you buck, and I think the K10 is the funnest and easiest to repair, as of how simplistic things were back then
I agree > ua-cam.com/video/d2pCSnQkvLo/v-deo.html
Only time will tell won’t it
goodtogoace the old motors are always more reliable you can fix them on the side of the road in a new truck you have to get towed and nobody will put a new engine in these new trucks in 30 years they will be sitting and rotting
Not gonna lie, I liked the 86 K10 the most. It just has more character versus the other trucks. Enjoyed the comparison.
The k10 is pretty awesome!
A Rural Vermonter would you ever sell it?
Because it’s less common.
I’m I the only one that hates the newest truck. I like the old 86 truck as a work truck it be fine
Me personally I’d stick with the 86. Nothing better than a old school.
Amazing how small the 2010 looks compared to the other 2.
paige hunt cause it's a 1500
@@1ronman1 - K10 is a half ton too, but the boxier front and wider tires probably make it look wider.
@@dustintunis9347 k10 is just a lil bit bigger
They still offer manual windows for the Chevy Silverado 2020
Oh really? Didnt expect that
Yeah the base Silverado still has that I-despise-my-employees-ness about it.
@@dchawk81 nothing wrong with manual windows. ;)
@@SaintNyx Nah my '86 is manual but nothing wrong with power either. 😉
@@ARuralVermonterQqjmcb182 the base model Chevy spark still has manual
The '86 K10 is 34 years old. Yes, it's not as comfortable, powerful, etc. But.... Will the 2020 still run in 2056? And if a sensor fails you're stuck. The K10 can be fixed with basic tools. New is NOT better. More comfy, powerful, etc. but give me reliability everyday of the week.
Paul Nel I have the best of both worlds I'm making my 91 modern with better interior and building a 383 stroker
On average new cars are much more reliable than older vehicles. I certainly don't miss carbs, don't miss changing out condenser points, I don't miss lubing the chassis, ball joints, U joints, etc. I don't miss the overall lifespan of a vehicle being about 100k miles. And I don't miss having to be on the lookout for rust after about 5 years. For a daily driver, give me the new vehicle every time.
if new wasn't better, it wouldnt have been released in the first place. I'd take reliability every day of the week as well, which is why I'd take the new one. overall, I'd still suck it up and understand I'd get a less efficient, weaker, overall worse platform and go for the old k10 because of personal preference, but from a pure logical and statistical standpoint I'd be labeled insane haha
MCatwar idk some of that new stuff is pure garbage and unreliable
@@rustypliers74 yeah i do agree with that too. the overall idea of technological advancement is to make such assumptions like that become true, but capital gain has clouded that mindset and a lot of companies also tend to fill their products with useless technology and build qualities just because they can. I'm by no means a brand loyalist but I've seen heaping piles of garbage come out of Chrysler's production lines. i know people with those new ram ecodiesels that blew a motor at 15k miles. my friends' grand cherokee has 100k on the chassis and has been through 2 motors, and the current one has already developed some lifter noise haha
My favorite gm trucks are the 1999 - 2006 body style and as far as I'm concerned the best bang for your buck for a used truck
Those are great trucks
My favorite truck is yes please.
Seriously they're all great.
Yes if you get one with the 5.3 they run forever I got an 01
Good drivetrains but notorious bad frames
Yep cast iron
You didn't mention which is easiest to work on. I vote the k10.
Ok wait 40 years and try those tests again ! Spoiler . The 2 newer chevs will be toasters or coke cans and the old chevy will be all by itself or with 2 2050 or 2060 chevs.
Lol we'll see. I trust these trucks will go for quite a while. Just rolled over 200k in this 2010 and 330k in my 1995 silverado
253k on my 09 still got all the power in the world fuel pump just went out today but other than that all original and almost all these miles had a trailer behind it so it’s pretty reliable
New cars are not meant to last, max 5-6 years then they should be thrown away and you should buy a new one (in the eyes of car makers). Specially the parts they build in the new cars are meant to break after a few years or miles... so it is really insane to even buy a new car.
Most 40 year old trucks are already scrap. Sorry to burst your bubble.
My 2001 Chevy Silverado has 330000 miles runs and drives
My 94 GMC half-ton is still going strong at 26 yoa. The 350 has never been opened. It's on starter 2 and alternator 2. Keep your vehicle maintained properly, and you'll realize real value at a time when things are getting too expensive. Interesting video. Thanks
No matter how old they'll be, the square bodies will always be my favorite
rather have the 86 k10
The newer silverados aren’t bad at all, Ive got a 2015 z71 with the 5.3 and almost 215k on her. Doesn’t skip a beat and doesn’t require much. Regular maintenance goes along way for keeping them going. Had her rhino lined early and haven’t had any rust. How they last depends on how you care for it.
You skipped my fav version - 1990 era (GMT400), so I'll take the 2010.
looking at the sierra makes me wanna rip my eyes out, I work at a GM dealer in NH and those trucks are the biggest rip offs GM has ever produced.
It's overpriced but it's not just gm that does it, all the new trucks are priced way to high!! In my opinion this truck will last longer than its counterpart and it looks better
Josh Flanders what GM dealer you work at? i work at one in NH too.
Actual transaction price on ALL trucks is usually way under MSRP. In fact that GMC might have sold for well into the $30s and for what it is, as a new 3/4 ton truck, that is a damn good value.
@@kevin9c1 true. The company is actually leasing this truck for $299 per month, which is a screaming deal. (They get a discount for multiple trucks)
I'm reporting you to corporate sir
I have a 86 C10 in Arizona, no rust looks like new underneath. Alot of work been done to it runs and drives great. Just hauled trash to the dump with it this morning.
I'll take the 86
Me too!
Yup
Square bodies will always take the win lol
Luis Bolanos the ugliest one there, most expensive to maintain, and the only one out of these trucks that probably won’t make it to 2040
I take a 98, 01,84 because of the 88-98 99-02 14-15 z71 like grille, 15, any six speed gmt900 1500 of the 07-13 series. I named the look of year of every gen GM truck preferably Chevrolet.
This was the video I was waiting for. I am getting into Trucks and appreciate your channel as a young vehicle enthusiast myself.
Underrated channel for sure
I'd still take the K10.
K10 for sure. I dislike how all new trucks are all about the ridiculous grills and over use of LED lights. You could have used a db app on your phone for noise.
The grills are necessary though as the radiators are massive and you need air flow when towing above 12k pounds or even over 30k pounds in the diesels.
I would love to see all 3 with a load on a rutted muddy logging road!
i dislike it too but that’s just a personal taste thing. if old trucks truly were better, they wouldn’t be improved.
@Luis Bolanos eh I disagree. I always find it cool when an older vehicle, whatever kind, drives around. If anything, that's better to be unique and not just fit into a monotonous society. But, preferences aside (because saying old trucks look better etc is ALL preference) you are correct. New trucks are better in every single way possible except for simplicity. But the simplicity was a double-edged sword.
@Luis Bolanos yep I totally agree. that's where I'm at too. I would take the old truck because of the novelty. Using a 36 year old truck to haul a backhoe up the mountain passes? Yeah, lemme pre-tune my carb for the elevation, and have fun with my terrible powerband, gearing, brakes, and suspension. these trucks, while they defnitely (to me, at least) have more novelty and look cooler, definitely could never stand up to the standards of today. Ask a hotshot driver whether they'd want a brand new truck to pull their goosenecks or some 35 year old shitbox haha!
GMT400 series trucks most dependable on the road, 94 Blazer k1500 315k miles and has never let us down, unlike the 2015 dodge challenger rt which has been in for repair over 10 times already.
Excellent comparison video! The best things about the 80s and SOME similar makes and models and those of even earlier manufacture is that they are much more owner/back yard mechanic friendly due to their simplicity (far, far fewer electronic components if any for example). Since I started watching your videos, and while I was looking for a "beater" for hunting and fishing trips, I discovered that trucks like your K10, that are still road worthy, especially those with functional 4X4 capability, are being horded like some folks are hording Charmin these days. If they have such trucks they "ain't for sale". The same is becoming true of newer trucks like my '05 Z71 Colorado and your '10 Silverado. As usual, an enjoyable and informative video....Keep 'em comin'!
The K10 is the best looking with the most soul.
I’m here for the scenery ,, and the square body 🇺🇸
I honestly feel like the 86 k10 is the best truck ever made I have an 86 c10
Worked with Ram for almost a year. According to their engineers, and designers for Chevy, Ford just the Big 3 in general. That making the roll down window option available in trucks is actually more costly on the manufacturer’s part than powered windows, but it still remains the cheaper option on the price tag, and more affordable go to repair for the buyer.
Also I got an 07 5.3 and it’s honestly a beat pulling definitely a power difference from my 2000 to my 2007
That was interesting! Like you showed inside the cab as you were towing and 0-60. Fun video, thanks!
Id still rather have a 2010 era silverado rather than a new one
Honestly, not suprised lol. I went from driving a 1980 Chevy k10 to a 2011 Silverado 1500, and now I have a 2020 Silverado 1500 and its noticeably quieter and faster/powerful in the new ones. Great video! 👍
Sweet, and thanks!
Great and interesting video, for me I'd take the Silverado as a daily because its capable and the best value for money. The K10 would be second because its a truck with a lot of character.
same with me!
Same here buddy
I’ve got a 2018 Silverado and a 1977 F-150 and I love both of them.
I'll take the old k10 over any modern "truck" for sure. I can't stand the overuse of leds which makes night visibility worse, or modern electronics that just breaks and are expensive to repair. And no, I am actually a millenial
Your neighbors must be thinking, "WTF is he doing?...oh, it looks like he's doing some kind of a comparison test... ;-)
lol
When it comes to vehicles analog will beat digital in the long run.
The 2020 sierra electronics probably wouldn't work by the time it's the K10's age
"It doesn't want to up shift" *laughs in 4l60e*
I made my truck , 1994 body nestled down on a 1978 K30 chassis. Dart 427 SBC th400 NP205 .
Great video man! Good editing too, everything is easy to hear and straight to the point, keep it up!
I’m a ford guy but I always liked the k10 look
me and my 95 z71 4x4 are not parting ways. Tougher, cheap plentiful parts and just cool af. paid 3k will never make payments so some dealer can buy another boat, just crazy.
I would vote the K10 any day for everything. Reason is that 302 sbc with a few mods will beat and outlast the other 2 trucks.
You mean 305??
Kaleb Brown lol
Yeah... That's bullshit beyond bullshit.
305’s were reliable like all SBC’s, but they’re absolutely gutless, and you’re better off spending $100 to buy a 350 and then throw a cam and top end build on it for another $400
You definitely don’t know the slightest thing of what you’re talking about, but that’s okay just don’t talk like you know something on the internet when you don’t.
I have a base model 95 Cheyenne with a 5 speed manual. No electric locks manual windows but surprisingly it has cruise control
The squarebody is still relevant, that's the key. They were called GM's last real truck back during the 90s and early 2000s.
I could go on and on. Squarebody for me.
$4K for my 95 K1500HD. You don't buy it for gas mileage or pussification. I bought mine in 2018 as a gift to myself. 187k miles and now 233k replaced the alternator and it took longer going to the auto parts place then to replace it! Great video.
You could make the 2010 Silverado fun. because it could have that ls based. You could turn it go faster.
You put a 2500 against 2 half tons. I would hope that it would tow better. Woulda been better if you could find someone with a 2020 1500.
The K10 is legendary, about the only major potential issue is rust. On the off chance it actually breaks down there's spare parts everywhere, and there's nowhere near as much electronic crap to worry about, so it's easy and quick to fix. If it wasn't a decades old design we'd still see them being used as fleet vehicles.
Sorry! Forgot to add. For the price of ONE 2020, you could probably buy 5 or more old K10's.
I really like the 86 square body I was surprised that it towed that trailer well as it did thank you for sharing
As well as it did lol, 5k lbs at 20 mph, sure bud
I'd drive every one of those trucks but I would take the older Silverado because I love the manual transmission !!!!
I had a 1980 Chevy 4by4 for about 20 years .took it to Lyndonville Vt on our Hooneymoon! LoL I do miss it I see yours had to be redone or it would be a bucket of rust! Great work Trucks
1980 last year a 400 SBC could be ordered in a C/K pickup. Same as the new HD you have basically. EPA shut the auto manufacturers down . Now it seems they’re less strict . Good thing
Awesome video! So incredible to see the improvements made by GM.
That was cool.
Pick up trucks have never been more capable than they are now. How much they cost, cost and ease of repairs, and how long they will last is a different story. In the rust states, 10 to 15 years is old for a truck.
I had a 05 GMC 1500, an 09 GMC 1500 and a 2012 GMC Canyon, all 3 died due to emission computer modules (1 of 3 possible modules at $900 a piece, no exchange if the dealership replaces the wrong one). Canyon lasted the longest at 345,000 miles, other 2 died around 200,000 miles. Recently retired the Canyon for a 82 GMC C2500 because she is dead simple to maintain, no computers and she rides nice for a truck, will probably exchange the Carburetor for a Holley Sniper Throttle Body kit. The Square bodies will outlast the others based on maintenance (cost and ease).
Lol.. you hitting the gas pedal on the 86.. excellent upload 😊
The best Generations for the chevy Tahoe and the Yukon are from 2000 to 2006 and 2007 to 2014 , I wish I have one
The gauge clusters on the new gen chevys are just god awful. Idk why they switched them up from the previous generation, which just looks way better imo
K10, best of all three 1970s, and 1980s cars and trucks are so nostalgic but alot of them last forever if you have the initiative to take care of them
My 76 K10 is pretty much identical. Mines a fleet side with a 3 speed automatic though. I really wish mine was a manual like that dang.
The 2020 interior is plush and sweet. I love the square body trucks though. Would love to get my hands on a blazer.
My 2009 Silverado has 309k miles on it original engine and trans
hope mine lasts as long at 150k
I mean, your 2010 is just a WT... I have an 04 Tahoe with a screen, navigation, 2 person memory, adjustable pedals, auto dimming mirrors, heated mirrors, heated seats, push button 4wd of course, auto 4wd, per tire psi indicator, on the fly driving computer with all the same stuff as today's.... MPG instant, average, trip a and b, oil life, washer fluid level, etc... all the same stuff as modern. Also has a drop down screen and DVD in the back, rear ac and heat, rear radio, cd, dvd, audio aux... I mean... most of this could be had in the 99 Escalade or Yukon ... or even the Tahoes back then. Similarly you can get different towing packages, engine options, etc. Even the Tahoes and such could have 6L, and they are all LSX based now... so they've all been extremely reliable since the 00/02 era... depending on vehicle. You've just got a certain group of vehicles there, but not really indicative of what the eras offered a whole. That 2010 WT had in dash screen options for example, nav, onstar, etc... had a luxury interior model and so forth. Had other engine options, amenities, etc...The 2020 is specifically a large caliber work tuck, towing in mind. I mean, I guess this is all well and good as a comparison of three different generations of three different types of truck. Okay, really, the 86 and 10 were close enough, the 2020 was too far up in scale regarding what it was... the large scale 6.6 fleet work truck and all. The other two were basic standard cab, stripped down, truck trucks with basic engine options for their era... in whatever various state they happen to be in under your ownership today. The other one is a brand new high caliber fleet hauler with max engine option and full interior base tech loadout. Quad cab and all... so again, it just sort of stands out. Would have almost been more interesting with a base 86, base 96, base 02, base 06, base 07-10ish, then maybe the 20... Those all have distinct difference though, even in WT model, and would likely show a lot more nuance in some, and a lot more insane jumps in performance in others.
You should do a mud test with the three trucks with the trailer see which one is the best.
Honestly alot of that will just be biased on tire size and tread.
K10 will kill them all
Of course, the people walking up the road think he's crazy, pulling another truck up the hill with 3 different trucks and hauling them down again! Lol!
I think for a daily my top pick would be the 2010, nice combination of modern and simple, everything you need not too much that you don't. Definitely would take the K10 for a fun/project truck, nothing quite like a classic squarebody truck, whether it be GM, Ford or Dodge. I mostly agree with your take on the reliability but I also would consider how much easier that K10 is to work on, sure you don't have OBD2 diagnostics but it's a dead simple powertrain to work on and keep running. My daily right now is my '05 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 Hemi (before the MDS crap.) Not the most well maintained truck, some clunks and sounds here and there, power steering is about shot, but she's got the badge of being a 200K+ mile truck on the original engine and transmission. I've hauled about 4-5 thousand pounds with it, hauled my buddy's broken down Ford Ranger on a sketchy car dolly. Maintained 45 MPH fine, could've gone faster but we didn't trust the dolly. For the most part all I ever put into the truck is fluid changes, only time I was stranded was by a bad starter cable, ended up getting a new starter too but she starts up like a dream now. This was one of the best comparisons I've seen in a long time, honest and you actually tested the things that matter in a truck, great job!
In my opinion, I would rank the trucks this way.
86 - Most fun on the property, around town, getting lunch and dinner
2010 - Much better for around town and longer hauling trips. Would likely use this for most of the towing and hauling just because of better suspension over the years.
2020 - If I'm being payed to haul something a long distance and *need* everything to work.
I would love the 86 for fun little trips and use the 2010 for more "this needs to get done" type work. 2020 only if it's for my job.
I can dig that verdict
@@ARuralVermonterQqjmcb182 Just remember, it's smiles per gallon, not miles per gallon!
Older stuff is better. I prefer to have a 96-98 Chevy truck. Those 5.7’s are amazing
I graduated in '86. That makes me an antique?
lol, by vt standards yep
Bruh you saved my pockets! I have a habit of buying less practical classics... I've been torn between a clean 1983 Dodge Ram 302 (with some wobble issue) and a 1992 Ford Ranger 5.0 both low kms and around $7k. I appreciate your advice and i've chosen practical>looks (given the current crisis we're facing, its not showy time).
Thanks for the great video man.. just what I needed to see. Stay safe.
Peace from Canada
I like the one that has no problems starting up
The 2020 it's a beast, I know there's a lot of "I'll bet it won't make it to 30 years bla blah" but its a beast, one gen that's was left is the 88 to 98 or so... That was the must reliable gen, was simple, good power etc etc all the parts are so cheap , the interior is more comfortable than the years before, better mpg etc etc I love that generation, and next... The ones whit the first 5.3 I think where so good , better than the ones that got after 2008 or so... They where more refined but still a truck that where basic to us to repair , they are no so techy ... And the Ls based engine are great for gaining hp with a little effort. Yeah the 86 is good.. but it's something that is in our hearts hahaha I thing the next generation (88-98) put two world's together reliable and confort ,the next one (2000 to 2007 or so)sadly where the last generation for me to be reliable... The new ones? If I got the money.. I will buy one.. to give up on him in 4 or 5 years.
I got a 95 Dodge Cummins, I live it, but my 2001 f250 is better in every thing except the engine hahaha better brakes, comfort, power, suspension etc etc and my 2003 Dodge Cummins is better than the other ones.. I got to say Eather gas or diesel... 2006 to 2008 Sims to be the dead of "I will easily and cheaply repair it " that's why I keep my old trucks...
Hi, I like your videos! And wanted to say the 2014 is when the screen with Bluetooth and the electric components upgraded. I had a 2013 Silverado that had the same electrics as your 2010 Silverado.
K10 with enough leg room for the Lady...priceless 😋
That 86 chevy was a real truck a real mens truck
The newer trucks have boxed parts of the frame that will result in failure in the salt belt where as the k10 has a c channel so it washes out easier.
Id like to see a towing test with more comparable older vehicles. Would be curious as to how an 86 with the 454 long bed CC would do vs the new Sierra.
People forget the additional focus newer half tons recieved after the tundra was released with a 10k lb towing capacity. Before then they weren't built or rated to tow much at all.
He's definitely using the wrong old truck for a comparison. I'd use an old 2500 automatic with a 454, preferably a single cab. I know those can go from 0 to 60 in 7 or 8 seconds depending on the truck.
Good call, nice video, thanks for making. P.s. I love my '90 Bronco ii
I got a 02 2500 hd 8.1 crew cab 8 ft box.
Tapping the gas alone put you back in the seat
The 94-01 Dodge Ram is the best year of the dodge good around trucks good engines and run forever
My uncle owns a 86 c20 with the 454 with short straight pipe exhaust system with 3 inch flowmaster mufflers
My work truck is a 2008 Chevy 3500 Silverado with about 65,000 on it. I was supposed to get a new 2020 Chevy truck similar to your GMC ,but due to covid-19 budget cuts they cancelled the order. So my old truck will get the rear fenders patched up (again) and the engine rebuilt.
Love the K10. Would take it over anything new from GM. ❤️🐸
Yea K10 has the character! I know if I take the K10 on a road trip with friends it'll feels more like a real road trip with good memories. We would be able to say "Hey remember when we drove the old truck to Maine?" (Etc) K10 wins.
Remember the good old days when pickups were the cheap alternative to buying a car? Good, basic transportation with no frills. Now pickups are like driving a space shuttle with all the screens, bells, whistles, and required options they come with, and they've completely priced themselves out of the reach of people who actually need a new pickup truck. Guess I'll continue to make do with my '96 Ram.
I own 85 K10 75,000 original miles under powered 305. I bought new in 2005 Chevy 1ton four wheel drive with a 364ci (6.0) work truck it has 220,000 miles and I still use it today. Also I bought a 2016 3/4 ton Chevy four wheel drive work truck with a 6.0. It has 56,000 miles. In my opinion their all great. My 85 wasn’t made for towing but all 3 trucks can take a hell of a beating. Chevy “ Like a rock “
Like a rock baby hell yea
Strange how shipping is slow for some people, my stuff has been arriving 2-3 days ahead of schedule.
what’s the mpg rating on those trucks? interesting to see how much they have changed
I'm getting 14 on the 2020, 17 on the 2010 and 13 on the 1987 right now
A Rural Vermonter highway or city? I’ve gotten about 16.6 average doin like 90 on the highway in a Silverado of a similar gen you got. The v6 f150s tend to get about 1-1.5 mpg better doin 90 on the highway.
@@funnypranker34 definitely not doing 90 lol. Speed limit is only 65 here.... these numbers are just from my commute which is a mix of highway and city
I’ve had 79, 83 and a 86 all lifted K10’s.
My 79 has 300,000 miles and a rotted body with rotted shackle and is still drivable.
Mean while my 01 Sierra with 174,000 miles blows a relay and won’t move 😂
I'll give you a pro-tip: I'm pretty sure you can swap starters between that '86 truck and the motorhome. I can tell by the sound that the truck has a nice high-torque, gear reduction starter on it which is ideal for the heat soak issues the RV is having. What you need to know is, there are two flywheels and flexplates. Either a 153 tooth or a 168 tooth. You identify which you have by looking at the starter mounting bolt pattern. If they are straight across, it is 153 tooth. If they are offset, it is 168 tooth. Starters don't interchange between the two sizes, but they "should" between like sizes no matter the engine. Do your own research beforehand, of course.
Ah cool, I'll look into a swap
Are big block and small block starters the same? On small blocks I do believe that trucks used the 168 tooth. Cars with a 305 used the 153. My go to gear reduction starter is crossed from a 98 Silverado with the L31 350.
They still offer the manual windows in the 2020 but you have to buy a specific work truck that I think your company has to buy. Correct me if I’m wrong but I know they offer manual windows in some of the single cabs
The 2010 looks so Nerf compared to the 86😂
I love them chevys after I got my first one I never wanted anything else !!
My 77 k10 sat for 23 years and started right up with a new battery. The squarebody always wins.
#bewarethesquare
Although i love my RAMs more than Chevys, i’ll give them the respect they deserve. My favorite chevy truck body styles (sorry i don’t exactly know the years) 03-06, 06-13, and 13-16. the new chevys look horrible.
I agree, the new chevys don't look as good as the old one. I like the new gmc much better
The new rams look almost as bad as the fords. I didn’t like dodge or rams although the last body style in my opinion was the best looking, the new front end of the ram looks like a version of a jetta front end
@@offroadriverfishing right they got Fiat wheels too
The 1st and 2nd gen Dodge Ram still the best and last forever
OffRoad RiverFishing That’s why i prefer the 4th gens, they are refined, and don’t have as many issues as the 5th gens. I’m a chrysler guy but the 5th gen needs to get many many many issues sorted out.
Compared to the newer Chevy trucks you have, I choose the volvo wagon
Good video. Thanks for making content for all of us in quarantine. I wish I had more time in Vermont to do a colab, but this mess won't let that happen.
On the K10, I know you said that there was cherry bombs on it. Was that it? No catalytic converter or anything? I have a ‘81 Blazer I wanna pipe up a bit but it has a catalytic converter and they quite it down pretty good. Just wondering if it’s pure glass packs or if there’s a catalytic converter behind it.
those seats will stay stiff forever thats just how they are in new trucks
Cool video!! Please get a wireless mic or overdub your voice when you are away from the camera, otherwise it’s hard to hear you. I had a 2007 GMC Sierra 1500 5.3L and really liked it. Recently upgraded to a 2015 GMC Sierra 1500 5.3L All Terrain crew cab with 6.5 foot bed (a bit rare I think), and man it is a sweet truck! It’s powerful, quiet, luxurious, and tough! The newer ones are more complex, but I think they will last with some decent maintenance (like any mechanical device, if you treat it right, it will treat you right).