First of all, I echo all the positive comments, and you deserve each and every one. I have binge watched your videos over the last few days. Thank you all (including your Dad) for allowing us to share this incredible journey with you. You guys have skill, determination, and patience. But most of all, you have courage. It takes courage to follow your dream, and to put aside all the doubters and naysayers. Everyone has an opinion - but many opinions have less validity than others. Watching this 27 footer come back to life is almost like watching a poor, abused dog who found a loving owner. When I saw the first video, I wondered how this would all end. Watching you both take the Sawzall to the rotten interior pieces before the tow to the yard, I knew this little boat had been badly mistreated and neglected. Watching your progress has been inspiring. When I saw the meticulous care you paid to the bilge area, I knew you were going to do this right. Don’t be discouraged by the comments asking why it takes a long time. It’s your boat, not theirs, and you are doing exactly the right thing. Questions: 1. Have you considered installing wheel steering? It’s much better than the tiller, and you can view Cheoy Lee 27s online that installed the wheel. 2. I didn’t realize until this video that you were not going to reinstall the teak decking. I saw you remove it - was it beyond restoration? Is it too expensive to install new wood decking? Again, many thanks and God bless!
Hi Zac & Ben, I really enjoyed this video! Thanks for mentioning the products you where using.... Loved the lake and your other sailboat! What a really great way of applying glass to the underside of the decks! Great job!! Fair winds!
Been binge-watching. Love the videos and this whole crazy project. I also love the fact that your dad had the cigar hanging out while helping you. You in the moonsuit with the mask, he in a T-shirt with a stogie.
@Hubert Anderson - You still have the C25? That’s what I sail and it’s in great shape. Do you participate on the Catalina-Capri-25s forum? Handy info for our boats.
gald to see you guys posting videos on a regular basis again, if you are worried about the transom toerails splitting you could always laminate a layer of fiber glass underneath it
2, maybe 3, layers of 1708 would def remove the majority of that flex. One layer just isn't enough glass to add substantial rigidity. Great job laying that glass upside down! Can be a real bear when things start going wrong. I like how your dad had a cigar during the layup! I never used a respirator with epoxy for years but I started noticing that I get mild hot flashes in my body now (when working with large amounts of epoxy) and fear I am getting sensitized to epoxy. Now I use a 3M 6001 and no more hot flashes. Love the videos, doing a great job with that boat!
Yeah I think one more layer would really stiffen it up. Idk if I'm sensitized to it but the smell really bothers me so I don't touch it without a respirator.
Hi, I realy enjoy your videos! They are not only informatieve, but also realy relaxing to watch. Keep up the good work. Greetings from the Netherlands.
great vid as always. It's impressive how much stiffness rotten old teak adds - you only notice it when it's been removed and realise your deck's a little spongy. I have the same problem on my foredeck, even after new core and laminate. I think I will need to glass over some foam formers under the bottom skin to really make difference. Look forwards to watching how it works out for you guys...
Nice as usual and about the flex on the side walk. I would cut a PVC pipe (could also be in card board) in half and glass it in the middle to add more rigidity. in bonus you have a space to pass wire to the front. The half pipe form will give the rigidity that you need, not the PVC pipe.
See Matthew Cremona. He tapes off the area to be filled with epoxy, then pours it in. It IS for furniture, admittedly, but it may also work in a wet environment.
You are making great progress.👍 as others have mentioned you need ‘stringers’ under the deck to improve stiff ness. Probably too late now but stick the closed cell foam longitudinally to the deckhead with hot glue gun and then glass it to the deckhead .
hind sight is 20/20 :) I know we are seeing these after the work has already been done - but for the transom pieces could you router out a more uniform shape to the void and add teak that way? also - nice snipe on the lake house boat! Cheers from PEI Canada, Bryan
You may want to cut out the bottoms of your toerail scuppers if you are going to varnish them before you reinstall them. The bottom part will now be above deck as you took of the teak, basically lowering the deck. ( Found that out after I removed the teak on my 31). ps You're doing great work on yours.
Excellent extraction tools. Nice find. You kind of fucked it up though removing the teak deck. Now you have to back up and figure out the strength issue.
Normally we do the outside of the deck for protection and water proofness. Given the circumstance glass underneath the deck is a little messy but if you only have glass on one side of the deck the lower side which is in tension is mechanically the better. But it will tend to lock in any water that finds itself into the substrate.
You might want to consider adding some longitudinal and lateral stringers under those deck surfaces and then put a layer of glass over them to better reinforce those areas enough to replace the structural strength component lost by removing the teak decking.
when glassing above use 3m adhesive spray to then roll fiberglass with resin mix = quick, clean and easy. any thought to building new toe rails? thanks for sharing
I read about that technique but there seems to be some debate as to whether or not the spray effects the epoxy. I'm going to reuse the old toe rails. They're still in great shape. Thanks for watching!
Video and editing skill really improving and the boat is looking fantastic keep it up. Have you considered using a penetrating epoxy on the brightwork before varnish to ensure against further chance of moisture damage if the varnish gets dinged?
Thanks! I have looked into it a bit but i think the majority of the teak is in good enough shape to resist the moisture. IDK though I guess we will find out.
Unscrew-ums, hehehe , just your every day roll pins with tips ground a bit, hehehe , old indian trick. It's funny how you can take old tricks and market them for big bucks. I usually , center punch and use a left hand drill bit
Under your side decks, just bonding in some 1/2 inch plywood sheeting underneath is all you need. Don't even need to glass over it. Just coat it in epoxy on the side your bonding, slather it with your epoxy/bonding mixture, and press into place. Even screw it in temporarily until it cures enough to back the screws out...
Personaly think that if you glassing the deck you should overlap a bit the glass mat on the joints other ways is just additional weight but not enought strengt i guess
Its already done, but I would have routered out those pieces of nasty teak to a uniform thickness/size and made scab pieces of teak to fit in. Less epoxy, more teak.
First of all, I echo all the positive comments, and you deserve each and every one. I have binge watched your videos over the last few days. Thank you all (including your Dad) for allowing us to share this incredible journey with you. You guys have skill, determination, and patience. But most of all, you have courage. It takes courage to follow your dream, and to put aside all the doubters and naysayers. Everyone has an opinion - but many opinions have less validity than others. Watching this 27 footer come back to life is almost like watching a poor, abused dog who found a loving owner. When I saw the first video, I wondered how this would all end. Watching you both take the Sawzall to the rotten interior pieces before the tow to the yard, I knew this little boat had been badly mistreated and neglected. Watching your progress has been inspiring. When I saw the meticulous care you paid to the bilge area, I knew you were going to do this right. Don’t be discouraged by the comments asking why it takes a long time. It’s your boat, not theirs, and you are doing exactly the right thing. Questions:
1. Have you considered installing wheel steering? It’s much better than the tiller, and you can view Cheoy Lee 27s online that installed the wheel.
2. I didn’t realize until this video that you were not going to reinstall the teak decking. I saw you remove it - was it beyond restoration? Is it too expensive to install new wood decking?
Again, many thanks and God bless!
Hi Zac & Ben,
I really enjoyed this video! Thanks for mentioning the products you where using.... Loved the lake and your other sailboat! What a really great way of applying glass to the underside of the decks! Great job!!
Fair winds!
Been binge-watching. Love the videos and this whole crazy project. I also love the fact that your dad had the cigar hanging out while helping you. You in the moonsuit with the mask, he in a T-shirt with a stogie.
Yeah I felt kind of silly all geared up and he's just chillin.
I also have a Victoria 18 which I purchased in 2013 and learned to sail on. It's been a lot of fun. Also got a Catalina 25 in 2016. Enjoy your videos.
@Hubert Anderson - You still have the C25? That’s what I sail and it’s in great shape. Do you participate on the Catalina-Capri-25s forum? Handy info for our boats.
Great job and determination to get the job done right...it is a better boat than what you started with
Hey just wanted to tell ya, I really enjoy your channel, cause there’s not a lot of fluff - just straight to it. Thanks for that!
3.26 cool stuff ,, 30 years as a machinist never seen this type tool to buy ... thanks for teaching an old guy a new trick . Best regards John
Thanks for posting. Cool little lake sailboat!
LOVE your channel and vids guys
Binge watching them all now!!!
Thanks for filming for and editing and uploading and doing all that sanding.
That was the tiniest little boat that actually has a cabin I have ever seen! I'd love to see the interior and how tiny it is in there!
Yeah its a cool little boat. There's enough room down there to sleep 2 people. We'll get some more footage next time we take her out.
gald to see you guys posting videos on a regular basis again, if you are worried about the transom toerails splitting you could always laminate a layer of fiber glass underneath it
2, maybe 3, layers of 1708 would def remove the majority of that flex. One layer just isn't enough glass to add substantial rigidity. Great job laying that glass upside down! Can be a real bear when things start going wrong. I like how your dad had a cigar during the layup! I never used a respirator with epoxy for years but I started noticing that I get mild hot flashes in my body now (when working with large amounts of epoxy) and fear I am getting sensitized to epoxy. Now I use a 3M 6001 and no more hot flashes. Love the videos, doing a great job with that boat!
Yeah I think one more layer would really stiffen it up. Idk if I'm sensitized to it but the smell really bothers me so I don't touch it without a respirator.
Way to go Bros. Even got in a little sailing adventure in this one.
Hi, I realy enjoy your videos! They are not only informatieve, but also realy relaxing to watch. Keep up the good work. Greetings from the Netherlands.
Thanks Steven!
No you can not cheat on your current sailboat project with another new sailboat weekend project. I forbid it! :)
The only thing better than owning one boat is owning two boats 🤣🤙⛵️
@@Mahalo_83 The other boat mean nothing to me! I swear!
You guys would really hate me then.
Thanks for the video
great vid as always. It's impressive how much stiffness rotten old teak adds - you only notice it when it's been removed and realise your deck's a little spongy. I have the same problem on my foredeck, even after new core and laminate. I think I will need to glass over some foam formers under the bottom skin to really make difference. Look forwards to watching how it works out for you guys...
You channel is awesome! You should have 130k subscribers. Good job.
Thanks Jeff!
Nice as usual and about the flex on the side walk. I would cut a PVC pipe (could also be in card board) in half and glass it in the middle to add more rigidity. in bonus you have a space to pass wire to the front. The half pipe form will give the rigidity that you need, not the PVC pipe.
The cardboard would be enough to make the form but I would also concider running them athwartship.
Good vid you guys, the boats really starting to take off.
See Matthew Cremona. He tapes off the area to be filled with epoxy, then pours it in. It IS for furniture, admittedly, but it may also work in a wet environment.
You are making great progress.👍 as others have mentioned you need ‘stringers’ under the deck to improve stiff ness. Probably too late now but stick the closed cell foam longitudinally to the deckhead with hot glue gun and then glass it to the deckhead .
Looking into that now. Thanks!
Great episode.
Thanks!
Great stuff! Thanks
You add glass in the hull below the toe rail and the water will simply rot out the underside of your reinstalled toe rail.
I look forward to every video.
hind sight is 20/20 :) I know we are seeing these after the work has already been done - but for the transom pieces could you router out a more uniform shape to the void and add teak that way? also - nice snipe on the lake house boat! Cheers from PEI Canada, Bryan
hah, yup too late :)
I thought about it but decided it would be to much work to try to shape new wood. Thanks! Its a cool boat!
Good job way to persevere👍
Those un-screwums look like spring roll pins with a chamfer inside. gives me another maintenance idea????
Looking forward to your new videos
You may want to cut out the bottoms of your toerail scuppers if you are going to varnish them before you reinstall them. The bottom part will now be above deck as you took of the teak, basically lowering the deck. ( Found that out after I removed the teak on my 31).
ps You're doing great work on yours.
Yeah I was planning on that. Thanks!
Excellent extraction tools. Nice find. You kind of fucked it up though removing the teak deck. Now you have to back up and figure out the strength issue.
Had to remove the teak decks. There was nothing left of them. We'll figure it out!
She is starting to look really nice
She's looking good
Normally we do the outside of the deck for protection and water proofness.
Given the circumstance glass underneath the deck is a little messy but if you only have glass on one side of the deck the lower side which is in tension is mechanically the better.
But it will tend to lock in any water that finds itself into the substrate.
Thats good to hear. Hopefully I did a good job sealing the deck!
@@SailBros maybe eventually epoxy paint the deck
You might want to consider adding some longitudinal and lateral stringers under those deck surfaces and then put a layer of glass over them to better reinforce those areas enough to replace the structural strength component lost by removing the teak decking.
Yeah I'm looking into something like that. Maybe I'll just go buy some more teak...
Another great video. What is you day job ?
when glassing above use 3m adhesive spray to then roll fiberglass with resin mix = quick, clean and easy. any thought to building new toe rails? thanks for sharing
I read about that technique but there seems to be some debate as to whether or not the spray effects the epoxy. I'm going to reuse the old toe rails. They're still in great shape. Thanks for watching!
Video and editing skill really improving and the boat is looking fantastic keep it up. Have you considered using a penetrating epoxy on the brightwork before varnish to ensure against further chance of moisture damage if the varnish gets dinged?
Thanks! I have looked into it a bit but i think the majority of the teak is in good enough shape to resist the moisture. IDK though I guess we will find out.
Unscrew-ums, hehehe , just your every day roll pins with tips ground a bit, hehehe , old indian trick. It's funny how you can take old tricks and market them for big bucks. I usually , center punch and use a left hand drill bit
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My dad same the same thing when he saw them.
Under your side decks, just bonding in some 1/2 inch plywood sheeting underneath is all you need. Don't even need to glass over it. Just coat it in epoxy on the side your bonding, slather it with your epoxy/bonding mixture, and press into place. Even screw it in temporarily until it cures enough to back the screws out...
That's what I did under the forward deck and it worked great. That's still an option so we'll see.
@@SailBros its an easy job and you'll get a lot of bang for the buck so to speak...
Personaly think that if you glassing the deck you should overlap a bit the glass mat on the joints other ways is just additional weight but not enought strengt i guess
Brotherman... light a fire and lets see some video.. springs almost here!!!
Maybe divide that "shelf" space with a mini bulk head..... (I don't know all the terms for this ) To beef up the structure of the deck?
Its already done, but I would have routered out those pieces of nasty teak to a uniform thickness/size and made scab pieces of teak to fit in. Less epoxy, more teak.
That's a beautiful lake! What state is it in?
Lake Sam Rayburn in Tx
@@SailBros Thanks!
Numero uno y dos! \m/
How many times did that sheet of glass sag down before it finally stayed?
It kept sagging at the edge until I wrapped it up over the tape. I was able to peel it back down with the tape once it cured
Yes!!!
:)
how would i go about emailing you guys?!!
sailbros89 at gmail.com
Victoria 18's are salty looking little boats.
It's February what with the Christmas tree
Sorry. It wont be in the next video