Oh he did study hard. 130 hours a week and leetcode problems is why he got these jobs and not college. I am in college right now and I know how much important college work and leetcode is
@christine smith I am graduating 2 months. You are right about not using algorithm problems in routine jobs but for the interview process is the best way to know if the candidate knows programming and understanding of code. If we have this skill, that makes us eligible to learn anything in software development world
@christine smith If you want to build something then you should learn any technology stack required for your product. There are tons of languages and frameworks for making web softwares. If you are hiring people for this particular job then don't ask them leetcode problems. Ask them the specific product technology related problems
College is college. Idc if it's ivy league or community College the only difference is how much the professors make a year and how well they teach. It took me a long time to realize that none of it matters in technology. You can become a computer scientist without a college degree and possibly out perform ivy league students.
College originally was supposed to be for academia, research and obtain knowledge to advance humanity, but lately, too many misguided people go to college just to seek better pay/better life, it kinda defeats its original purpose.
Rolling Cloud haha man I can’t argue with that! Which university did you attend!? Yeah I have a mix of friends who went to Ivy League colleges and some (including myself) started from community college to university. I really do think it depends on the individual putting in the effort to make the grades, network and get involved. However being in a top notch environment makes a HUGE difference getting that specific career you want. Heck your pretty set for lift after you successfully complete a bachelors from a Ivy League college
My GPA was somewhere around 2.0 when I dropped out as a senior. I have not studied for an interview for my last 3 jobs (5 years), or done any sort of coding challenge. Making in the same ballpark as a software engineer, working at a publicly traded software company with great benefits. FYI, not every well-paying tech job requires you to do what he did. I appreciate his story, but wanted to share there's a lot of paths you can take.
Just a heads up to people watching this that LeetCode is not the end all be all. Algorithms are not the end all either. Having tangible projects in whatever field of SWE you're into should be adequate to getting a job. FAANG companies started the whole leetcode culture which is why those companies endorse leetcode. It's not necessary to work for those kind of companies to make a great salary. This is coming from someone with a 2.8 GPA at Texas State University which is not a top tier school. Just work hard before the job and after you get the job. Communicate and network your ass off. LinkedIn is a great way to get a job so make your profile look amazing. Get certifications. Grind. Good luck!
@@Zeegoner SWE compared to most other white collar professions inherently is better paying. If Im coming to Amazon or Google I make a bit less but Im only at 1.5 years of experience and plan to make it to the 200k+ pay bands by the end of next year.
While a 2.9 GPA isn't a great GPA it isn't bad for engineering. You can still easily work your way to a good job and career graduating with a 2.9 in Engineering. It's all about building your resume and being strategic which you need to do anyways.
A 120 questions in a month.... Thats some talent man. I can hardly do 3 normal or easy questions in a day if I sit for the whole day and do nothing....
I dont make 300k like cyrus but i do have a decent job that pays me well despite my low gpa. I hope many people will know GPA isnt EVERYTHING in landing a good job. It definitely helps and Im, by no means, saying GPA isnt important. It really depends on how much you put effort. I went to school juggling three part time jobs while going to school full time. It may sound like an excuse but it was really difficult to have GPA high.
Actually it all depends what you do during your free time and practical skills, that includes the choice of spending $600 either on Coachella or on a boot camp course to get exposure on all this CS stuff. Same goes for law school...get a high LSAT score (170+) and you are well on your way to a top 14 school or an average school with full scholarship ($0 minimum student debt). POSSIBLE.
My resume has both software developer jobs and data engineer jobs. I am flexible between the two, but some people only know how to be one or the other. What makes you want to switch now?
I don't get it.... why is that bad? isnt 2.9 = B's. Im not American but if you have B's you are almost fucking perfect student??? btw what's the highest GPA you can get?
Shady so my parents work at a big computer company and they sometimes don’t even interview people below a 3.2 a 2.9 is bad it’s more bs then cs. But what they also look into is the classes that the grades were gotten so if this guy got bad grades in non computer classes then he gpa is brought down. Does that make sense?
@@DewTime He kinda explained it in the video before this. He wanted to reflect on his life a little bit, and see which path he wants to really go in life. That was the nutshell of it.
That is my confusion too. usually people want to move from software engineer to data science as its the new hot and high demand thing, but he did the reverse. WHY??
Greeting into these big companies with big salaries has become a stunt and how well you can execute it by doing certain things already done by others....alas!!
legit feel like coding bootcamps and doing tons and tons of leetcode is better than going to college. College is so time consuming, exhausting and forces you to take meaningless courses
While your logic isn’t a 100% wrong you wouldn’t be setting your self up to the fullest extent. While i have no doubt your coding and algorithm skills could easily be way better if you went to a coding bootcamp and grinding leet code instead if going to college that really wont get you far depending on your goals. For many big tech companies the minimum requirement is a bachelors degree and or masters. Not to mention that your pay is greatly effected by your degree in many places. So while you can go far with those skills a lot of the times if you dream of working at FAANG look at their listings
I'm just curious, but for the interviews I've done in Facebook a week ago the bar was quite high for new graduate student. LeetCode medium was way far from enough and people who succeeded usually did 300-500 LeetCode problems for several runs. And for these people, they typically finished two (Medium+Hard, Hard+Hard, sometimes Hard+Easy) questions in a 45-minute round. There were some exceptions, some people finished only 1 question for each round still got the job and they happened to have some common traits which didn't apply to everybody. So what I'm trying to say here is does anybody else have similar experience? Is the bar like this all the time or is it more like a recent trend?
Joma I just started my Masters in Computer and Business. This interview really motivated me to improve my programming and software engineering skills. I need to stop being afraid of learning algos or programming and just do it. Thanks for inviting Xi. P.S. I also want to specialize in Machine Learning
I graduated high school with a 2.9 GPA because senior year I stopped showing up to school cause I was depressed and my parents where extremely neglectful and it was getting to me. I went to community college and kept withdrawing or barely passing my classes cause, again, I was depressed. Now I'm 21 trying to go back to school for engineering and right now my past Transcripts are bringing me down but I'm going to do whatever I can to make a lot of money someday and go to college for software engineering cause I love tech.
If you have a high EQ and broad knowledge of technology, you can talk your way into any internship or entry level SWE position. 6 F's, 5 D's, 10W's, 2.1 overall GPA. Context matters though. I am from a Top 15 CS university and worked way too much. You better be able to explain your GPA IF it comes up and you better show your passion for programming (via personal geek projects). I didn't bother ever applying for roles that asked for GPA on initial applications. For anyone with extremely low GPA's, I'd say skip FAANG companies all together. Join a decent sized startup that will give you experience building stuff from the ground up, not those busy-work projects that you get at the holy grail companies. Alternatively, you can join a Fortune 500 companies not known for tech (i.e. think US Bank, CVS, etc.). They will pay you well, you are pretty much guaranteed to get converted to a full-time engineer short of you being completely incompetent, and it still looks good on a resume). They do not drill you with LeetCode questions, and they do not expect you to work 70 hours a week.
2.9 is pretty poor for CS would look slightly better for Computer/Electricial Engineering but in reality u want at least a 3.0. Below that and you should never mention it and if asked on job posting u will likely get filtered out because it's not a 3.0.
and im currently stressing about my 3.0...i really hate school with all the assignments and projects of different subjects and TESTS. im so over it. but im not exactly the smartest when it comes to programming either to even anticipate landing a 100k+ position :/
I am in the process of transition too. It's not a normal fullstack, swe in the autonomous vehicles area. Average salary is around 300k - 500k. Seniors earn more than that.
@@slec513 wow that's shocking to me. I know someone that started out 83k the week after graduation and our school isn't extremely prestigious anything. I know someone else making 85k with just an associate's from and online school. Did you just not try to move up or did you find something stressful free with lower pay that you enjoyed? I'm just surprised you make under 80k with a computer science degree.
@@mildhotpeppers I did not try very hard to apply for jobs, and I also never developed a strong grasp of algorithms or how to implement or apply them. I didn't do very much programming in college, despite studying CS, because much of my time was spent on the core curriculum of math and science and theoretical CS courses, with only the intro CS series and occasional project courses requiring coding. Most interview prep material didn't exist back then. I was never very eager to work for someone else, but I also failed to develop my own products when I gave it a go straight out of college. I took the first and only offer I received, which I received without being asked many technical questions, and spent years mainly just doing my own hobbies. When I started studying independently again, I ended up mostly taking online courses in the cool-sounding topics like machine learning, but so far don't have practical skills or projects that could lead to anything. I sporadically practice interview questions, but so inconsistently that I can barely do Leetcode mediums. I've interviewed with FAANG companies whose recruiters contact me and have gone to a few onsites that I failed.
FYI, just because a college is in KY and is small, private, and emphasizes liberal arts, doesn't mean it's a "shit college" as you put it (4 min 17 sec in). I know several people who went there and did well for themselves in their respective fields of study. Regardless, I liked the rest of your video. I found it extremely helpful. Thanks.
Graduated from a masters in exercise program with a 4.0 GPA and make minimum wage. Starting a masters in data science program next fall and hope to one day make more than minimum wage.
Hi Joma, so I'm actually the one who made the 2.4 GPA r/cscareerquestions post that you had up at 3:35 . I think you might have gotten me and Cyrus mixed up, as we both made similar posts. His would be the 2.9 GPA post by u/elliotbot I presume, and I'm u/PrepperoniPrepza. If you take a look at my reply to the top comment on my post, I mentioned I went to a CSU (California State University), while Cyrus went to Centre College. Still cool to see my post on your channel though! :)
well i feel like this is clickbait. the first thing that anyone should know about these statements (people talk about examples like this all the time) is that this person isn't your average 2.9 gpa student. it's just like saying a man gets a 6 pack with almost zero exercise. if it can be true, but requires an abnormal amount of discipline given the type of people that fit the first statement.
This comment rubs me in a very strange (not necessarily negative) way because I go to a school that is very rigorous, on par with Berkeley (in coursework), and is well-represented in SV. I find myself not intimidated by doing a disciplined Leetcode study-grind, despite my low current 2.44 GPA (expecting a 2.6-2.8 GPA upon graduation). It is clear I have not lived up to the numerical standard (the 3.0 GPA) along with having only one internship at a no-name startup, as of my final year in college. So I often question if I am being totally honest with myself when I express confidence about having the ability to get a well-paying job upon graduation, whether in SWE, DS, Sales, DevOps, or Analyst positions - as I feel like I have sung this song and dance enough times when it came to DS&A exams, where in General Chemistry, Maths, and Statistics, earning C-/C+/C/B- respectively. These are bad grades, yet I am working up grit to finish strong in the following 3 semesters I have in college. The feelings of imposter syndrome are heavier than I have ever had in my life. I honestly have no clue what I am cut out for right now. If I claim I will do well, I immediately point at my own GPA and have the urge to say "you are lying to yourself like you always have in College, see?" The feelings of optimism and motivation are drowned immediately by disgust and self-flagellation, yet I continue with my studies with the weirdest confidence that I still claim I have. I spend way too much time thinking about this, but I really do believe things will pan out, in my case - whether realistic or not.
You, Mayuko, and Jarvis must love the hell outta some youtube, or the tech field isn’t what it’s cracked up to be 🤔. Either way I support you all👏 do your thing!
S B mayuko had to commute like 2 hours a day to her job and joma said in the video he wants to switch to swe, at the end of the day it is still just a job
Haha this was super relatable on many levels, I am from a small liberal arts college from India with about 1500 students and have an average gpa. Hope I can make it like this person did.
I really don't know why people relate GPA and being a good professional. After almost 2 decades of experience I can tell that one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
I had a low GPA in college - now working at a prestigious boutique investment firm 5 years later. Understand GPA doesn't mean everything, however all these commentors really downplaying it are full of shit. You would statistically pull a quality applicant in from a pool of high GPA applicants as opposed to a pool of low GPA applicants. You need to work hard to pull yourself from the crowd and drop the sense of entitlement.
Hes not making eye contact because hes concentrating on what he is saying. It prevents his mind from wandering. When hes listening hes making eye contact 100 percent.
I would like to know how u went from 2.9 to uber Skills? Languages What sorta projects I am in my final yr of Bachelors in CS degree! So this information will be very useful!
It's his brand. I just found this Joma guy and every video he's awkward as hell. Kinda feel bad for him because how does he not recognize the glaring errors?
grab a leetcode problem and make an actual project with a real solution out of it. or grab the concept of the solution to the problem and use it for that mini project. repeat and combine them into new things. That way U grab more than just the original
@@pakfeed6909 its a free sign up. you can upgrade of course. I think its pretty good to get familiar with different coding challenges. i'm not great at coding haha. pretty much a noob. But im in college and im probably going to be faced with it in the future - so for now, the challenges are helping me familiarize with it.
If you are level 5a, 5b, or 6, you should definitely be getting paid above 400k. If you are level 4, you should be paid $240. However, if you negotiate hard, you can raise that to be $300k.
You hear the big numbers in Silicone Valley, but a big number is misconceived. After taxes and rent you are down significantly; that in combination with the poor quality of life means your $300k is minuscule. Do what I do. I work remotely for a big tech company (HQ not located in CA) and I make $165k salary as a DevOps engineer living in the Middlesex region of MA. I barely graduated from high school and I only have a community college associates degree with no ambition to pursue my BA. I literally went from someone who had nothing in their life to where I am now in 4 years.
Adnan A it’s more than just majoring in it, if you don’t like the material and don’t care to learn it to its depth you will not thrive in the career field
Just because he's got that crazy salary with a low GPA, doesn't mean that you don't need to study hard! Just a heads up.
Oh he did study hard. 130 hours a week and leetcode problems is why he got these jobs and not college. I am in college right now and I know how much important college work and leetcode is
@christine smith I am graduating 2 months. You are right about not using algorithm problems in routine jobs but for the interview process is the best way to know if the candidate knows programming and understanding of code. If we have this skill, that makes us eligible to learn anything in software development world
@christine smith If you want to build something then you should learn any technology stack required for your product. There are tons of languages and frameworks for making web softwares. If you are hiring people for this particular job then don't ask them leetcode problems. Ask them the specific product technology related problems
@@nirajmotiani wait 130 hours a week non stop studying??? lol
Theres a difference between educating yourself and going to college. You don't need to go to college to educate yourself and be an intelligent person.
College is college. Idc if it's ivy league or community College the only difference is how much the professors make a year and how well they teach. It took me a long time to realize that none of it matters in technology. You can become a computer scientist without a college degree and possibly out perform ivy league students.
Yeah, one of my friend's mom was a civil engineer, but did amazingly in computer science just because she was so passionate about it.
The way I see it, College is really for networking, the better the school you get into the smarter the kids your surrounded with!
College originally was supposed to be for academia, research and obtain knowledge to advance humanity, but lately, too many misguided people go to college just to seek better pay/better life, it kinda defeats its original purpose.
Rolling Cloud haha man I can’t argue with that! Which university did you attend!? Yeah I have a mix of friends who went to Ivy League colleges and some (including myself) started from community college to university. I really do think it depends on the individual putting in the effort to make the grades, network and get involved. However being in a top notch environment makes a HUGE difference getting that specific career you want. Heck your pretty set for lift after you successfully complete a bachelors from a Ivy League college
nope not true
Longest advertisement I've ever seen right at the beginning of the video. Ouch.
And the video has two other ads.
this guy is so bad with adds. he also name drops with big tech companies all the time to get views. it’s quite annoying
2:02
Let the guy make some money. Don't be an ass!
Use sponsorblock to skip them
Keep up the good work! :)
Ay psych2go I love u
i love your videos
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I've got a 0 GPA and making 0 dollars :))
Proud of you.
Richly deserved it, keep it up bro
What is GPA bro?
you shouldnt need college bullcrap to make a decent living in 2019 :wink_eye_face:
@@actuallymarcos8606 Grade Point Average
6:02
Joma: "So you just went back home and started studying?"
Cyrus: "Ya pretty much everyday"
Joma: "Shittt......"
🤣
Is it weird that this idea excites me?
I scrolled to this comment right when this convo happened in the video lmao
what did he study?
My GPA was somewhere around 2.0 when I dropped out as a senior. I have not studied for an interview for my last 3 jobs (5 years), or done any sort of coding challenge. Making in the same ballpark as a software engineer, working at a publicly traded software company with great benefits. FYI, not every well-paying tech job requires you to do what he did. I appreciate his story, but wanted to share there's a lot of paths you can take.
what do u do lol
Help me out dawg
Just a heads up to people watching this that LeetCode is not the end all be all. Algorithms are not the end all either. Having tangible projects in whatever field of SWE you're into should be adequate to getting a job. FAANG companies started the whole leetcode culture which is why those companies endorse leetcode. It's not necessary to work for those kind of companies to make a great salary. This is coming from someone with a 2.8 GPA at Texas State University which is not a top tier school. Just work hard before the job and after you get the job. Communicate and network your ass off. LinkedIn is a great way to get a job so make your profile look amazing. Get certifications. Grind. Good luck!
Coming from someone with a job in SWE paying decent or no?
@@Zeegoner SWE compared to most other white collar professions inherently is better paying. If Im coming to Amazon or Google I make a bit less but Im only at 1.5 years of experience and plan to make it to the 200k+ pay bands by the end of next year.
@@jason96G Good for you!
What do you mean by tangible products
While a 2.9 GPA isn't a great GPA it isn't bad for engineering. You can still easily work your way to a good job and career graduating with a 2.9 in Engineering. It's all about building your resume and being strategic which you need to do anyways.
2.9gpa isn't bad for engineering, but it's terrible for computer science. All my friends had like 3.3+, I had 2.7
@@marydavis5056 That's true. All you have to do is PASS at an IV league and you're set for life
lol GPA doesn't matter for computer science. I know a bunch of people with high GPA but cant code for shit. They fail in interviews
At least he has a CS degree. I'm self taught, what am I supposed to do???
Lmao if I major in Cs my
Gpa will be 2.0 exactly💀
A 120 questions in a month.... Thats some talent man. I can hardly do 3 normal or easy questions in a day if I sit for the whole day and do nothing....
I dont make 300k like cyrus but i do have a decent job that pays me well despite my low gpa. I hope many people will know GPA isnt EVERYTHING in landing a good job. It definitely helps and Im, by no means, saying GPA isnt important. It really depends on how much you put effort.
I went to school juggling three part time jobs while going to school full time. It may sound like an excuse but it was really difficult to have GPA high.
That is a legitimate excuse
Sandra Lee its because you're a woman 🤡
I mean you are Korean...
Actually it all depends what you do during your free time and practical skills, that includes the choice of spending $600 either on Coachella or on a boot camp course to get exposure on all this CS stuff.
Same goes for law school...get a high LSAT score (170+) and you are well on your way to a top 14 school or an average school with full scholarship ($0 minimum student debt). POSSIBLE.
What was your gpa?
Finally Joma's dream came true. He's a full time UA-camr now.
ig he wants to do SE again though
More videos of the same interview soon! After I’m done editing them.
How long is the full interview?
@Joma why did you quit data science and switch to SWE? Really curious. Most people want the other way round because of the craze in data science.
My resume has both software developer jobs and data engineer jobs. I am flexible between the two, but some people only know how to be one or the other.
What makes you want to switch now?
Because TheTechLead said so!
I will definetly see
Woah this is that guy. I read his reddit post all the time when I need motivation.
link?
Pls link
Check the description....
www.reddit.com/r/cscareerquestions/comments/b3w1gg/2_year_update_my_journey_tips_29_gpa_at_a_small/
JomaTech rly called this man's college 'shit' in front of his face lmao
This is the most casual interview ever...
because they already know each other and used to work in the same company together
Him living in Kentucky hits home for me. It gives me more confidence that I can get somewhere in tech coming from this hellhole.
There is nothing wrong with KY, good luck!
This Joma guy reminds me of pharmabro... the way he looks, talks, and that creepy grin...
The most important part of this video "Self study is impportant"
2.9 gpa...but he has a Masters in CS at Georgia tech... still amazing. Video on how he did that por favor? 👌🔥
I don't get it.... why is that bad? isnt 2.9 = B's. Im not American but if you have B's you are almost fucking perfect student??? btw what's the highest GPA you can get?
Shady so my parents work at a big computer company and they sometimes don’t even interview people below a 3.2 a 2.9 is bad it’s more bs then cs. But what they also look into is the classes that the grades were gotten so if this guy got bad grades in non computer classes then he gpa is brought down. Does that make sense?
He doesn't have a masters degree.....He's currently doing his masters in CS
@@JagjitBrawler I stand corrected. Still an amazing venture 💙😭
Aldrin Brillante absolutely! mad respect for Cyrus! FB and Snap are known for having the most grueling tech interviews.
Hello joma! Can you make separate video for why you left job as a data scientist please.
He said in his video he wants to go back to software engineering
Tethius that doesn’t explain why he quit without an offer in hand though
@@DewTime He kinda explained it in the video before this. He wanted to reflect on his life a little bit, and see which path he wants to really go in life. That was the nutshell of it.
Ah ok gotcha @@PacMan755
That is my confusion too. usually people want to move from software engineer to data science as its the new hot and high demand thing, but he did the reverse. WHY??
Greeting into these big companies with big salaries has become a stunt and how well you can execute it by doing certain things already done by others....alas!!
legit feel like coding bootcamps and doing tons and tons of leetcode is better than going to college. College is so time consuming, exhausting and forces you to take meaningless courses
While your logic isn’t a 100% wrong you wouldn’t be setting your self up to the fullest extent. While i have no doubt your coding and algorithm skills could easily be way better if you went to a coding bootcamp and grinding leet code instead if going to college that really wont get you far depending on your goals. For many big tech companies the minimum requirement is a bachelors degree and or masters. Not to mention that your pay is greatly effected by your degree in many places. So while you can go far with those skills a lot of the times if you dream of working at FAANG look at their listings
Join for full interview? I'm disappointed
wtf was that evn
Agreed and Joining is region specific, so I don't even have the option to join where I live
I'm just curious, but for the interviews I've done in Facebook a week ago the bar was quite high for new graduate student. LeetCode medium was way far from enough and people who succeeded usually did 300-500 LeetCode problems for several runs. And for these people, they typically finished two (Medium+Hard, Hard+Hard, sometimes Hard+Easy) questions in a 45-minute round. There were some exceptions, some people finished only 1 question for each round still got the job and they happened to have some common traits which didn't apply to everybody. So what I'm trying to say here is does anybody else have similar experience? Is the bar like this all the time or is it more like a recent trend?
While I am doing the best I can in school
This gives me hope when I feel like its the end of the world when it comes to exams
This guy needs to work on interviewer skills, pretty awkward at times, but good questions
Yup! His reactions and replies are really pathetic. I didn't like it.
Joma I just started my Masters in Computer and Business. This interview really motivated me to improve my programming and software engineering skills. I need to stop being afraid of learning algos or programming and just do it. Thanks for inviting Xi.
P.S. I also want to specialize in Machine Learning
@anas kh It doesn't matter, you can catch up with everything :)
@anas kh I mean get them for free
I graduated high school with a 2.9 GPA because senior year I stopped showing up to school cause I was depressed and my parents where extremely neglectful and it was getting to me. I went to community college and kept withdrawing or barely passing my classes cause, again, I was depressed. Now I'm 21 trying to go back to school for engineering and right now my past Transcripts are bringing me down but I'm going to do whatever I can to make a lot of money someday and go to college for software engineering cause I love tech.
Hey, Naomi, I know I'm late, but if you see this, how are things going now? I'm a brother btw.
If you have a high EQ and broad knowledge of technology, you can talk your way into any internship or entry level SWE position. 6 F's, 5 D's, 10W's, 2.1 overall GPA. Context matters though. I am from a Top 15 CS university and worked way too much. You better be able to explain your GPA IF it comes up and you better show your passion for programming (via personal geek projects). I didn't bother ever applying for roles that asked for GPA on initial applications. For anyone with extremely low GPA's, I'd say skip FAANG companies all together. Join a decent sized startup that will give you experience building stuff from the ground up, not those busy-work projects that you get at the holy grail companies. Alternatively, you can join a Fortune 500 companies not known for tech (i.e. think US Bank, CVS, etc.). They will pay you well, you are pretty much guaranteed to get converted to a full-time engineer short of you being completely incompetent, and it still looks good on a resume). They do not drill you with LeetCode questions, and they do not expect you to work 70 hours a week.
Studying 100 hours per month on top of a regular 9-5 of coding is rough.
2.9 gpa in cs/math/stats is a GREAT gpa... its more like barely graduating with like a 1.9/2.0 that doesnt look good
Not in the US.
2.9 is pretty poor for CS would look slightly better for Computer/Electricial Engineering but in reality u want at least a 3.0. Below that and you should never mention it and if asked on job posting u will likely get filtered out because it's not a 3.0.
Sometimes your GPA is also a matter of your circumstance. It doesn’t define you or your knowledge of the subject.
from start 2 minutes wasting of time advertisment of app
start with 1:58
Thanks bro
God bless you
Thx
Wouldnt mind a 30 minute one of this, great video man.
Shak Os I’m going to do a review of one of Joma’s videos soon if you’re interested in following along!
and im currently stressing about my 3.0...i really hate school with all the assignments and projects of different subjects and TESTS. im so over it. but im not exactly the smartest when it comes to programming either to even anticipate landing a 100k+ position :/
How are things going for you currently? Do you have any friends with a GPA in the 2.5-2.8 range, by chance?
Glad to have you back!! Artiba mi compa para todos nosotros los programadores.
Why did y’all leave data science field. What attract you to transition to SWE?
I too am wondering why the transitions from data scientist and data engineer to SWE
It mostly seems like interest
I am in the process of transition too. It's not a normal fullstack, swe in the autonomous vehicles area. Average salary is around 300k - 500k. Seniors earn more than that.
Money
Data Science is extremely boring (at least in my opinion). For me personally, I prefer embedded Software Engineering (IoT).
crazy with full-time job. he only slept 4 hrs a day.
I've read about this guy's story both times, and have always wondered who he is...wow
1.8GPA , $20K LOL that's me
Ur fail I guess
amen brother
May I ask what degree you got, Yuzhen Wang?
Go to community college or a trade school
you are from china, 20k is very decent salary tbh, above most of chinese
I had a 3.7 GPA from a top university. 15 years later, I make about $75k typing Linux commands and sometimes writing code for small projects.
What was your major if you dont mind me asking?
@@mildhotpeppers Computer science.
@@slec513 wow that's shocking to me. I know someone that started out 83k the week after graduation and our school isn't extremely prestigious anything. I know someone else making 85k with just an associate's from and online school. Did you just not try to move up or did you find something stressful free with lower pay that you enjoyed? I'm just surprised you make under 80k with a computer science degree.
@@mildhotpeppers I did not try very hard to apply for jobs, and I also never developed a strong grasp of algorithms or how to implement or apply them. I didn't do very much programming in college, despite studying CS, because much of my time was spent on the core curriculum of math and science and theoretical CS courses, with only the intro CS series and occasional project courses requiring coding. Most interview prep material didn't exist back then.
I was never very eager to work for someone else, but I also failed to develop my own products when I gave it a go straight out of college. I took the first and only offer I received, which I received without being asked many technical questions, and spent years mainly just doing my own hobbies. When I started studying independently again, I ended up mostly taking online courses in the cool-sounding topics like machine learning, but so far don't have practical skills or projects that could lead to anything. I sporadically practice interview questions, but so inconsistently that I can barely do Leetcode mediums. I've interviewed with FAANG companies whose recruiters contact me and have gone to a few onsites that I failed.
FYI, just because a college is in KY and is small, private, and emphasizes liberal arts, doesn't mean it's a "shit college" as you put it (4 min 17 sec in). I know several people who went there and did well for themselves in their respective fields of study. Regardless, I liked the rest of your video. I found it extremely helpful. Thanks.
Megan Charles that’s the typical SV elitist bullshit for you. Stanford trust fund kids looking down on the proles.
Graduated from a masters in exercise program with a 4.0 GPA and make minimum wage. Starting a masters in data science program next fall and hope to one day make more than minimum wage.
I'm really happy that you're back, Joma :))
Nice to know you are back! Your videos just filled me up with positivism and motivation. :)
Never clicked so fast in my life.
oh look, another loyal subscriber
@@spinLOL533 Yeah bro, Joma might have left for a few months but I never removed my subscription.
@@lemuelstaana5384 same here.
Hi Joma, so I'm actually the one who made the 2.4 GPA r/cscareerquestions post that you had up at 3:35 . I think you might have gotten me and Cyrus mixed up, as we both made similar posts. His would be the 2.9 GPA post by u/elliotbot I presume, and I'm u/PrepperoniPrepza. If you take a look at my reply to the top comment on my post, I mentioned I went to a CSU (California State University), while Cyrus went to Centre College. Still cool to see my post on your channel though! :)
I WANT TO KNOW THE GUY WITH 2.4GPA not the 2.9GPA...fuck this video
did you use leetcode as well? almost felt like leetcode was the biggest winner there
@@seanh3186 I did, but I actually found the book Elements of Programming Interviews more helpful. There is a lot of overlap between the two though.
@@pomtl6684 If you're serious. I'm open to any questions you might have.
well i feel like this is clickbait. the first thing that anyone should know about these statements (people talk about examples like this all the time) is that this person isn't your average 2.9 gpa student. it's just like saying a man gets a 6 pack with almost zero exercise. if it can be true, but requires an abnormal amount of discipline given the type of people that fit the first statement.
Zadius895 exactly
There’s also a MASSIVE difference between a 2.9 gpa at Berkeley and a 2.9 gpa @ your local shit tier state school
This comment rubs me in a very strange (not necessarily negative) way because I go to a school that is very rigorous, on par with Berkeley (in coursework), and is well-represented in SV. I find myself not intimidated by doing a disciplined Leetcode study-grind, despite my low current 2.44 GPA (expecting a 2.6-2.8 GPA upon graduation). It is clear I have not lived up to the numerical standard (the 3.0 GPA) along with having only one internship at a no-name startup, as of my final year in college. So I often question if I am being totally honest with myself when I express confidence about having the ability to get a well-paying job upon graduation, whether in SWE, DS, Sales, DevOps, or Analyst positions - as I feel like I have sung this song and dance enough times when it came to DS&A exams, where in General Chemistry, Maths, and Statistics, earning C-/C+/C/B- respectively. These are bad grades, yet I am working up grit to finish strong in the following 3 semesters I have in college. The feelings of imposter syndrome are heavier than I have ever had in my life. I honestly have no clue what I am cut out for right now. If I claim I will do well, I immediately point at my own GPA and have the urge to say "you are lying to yourself like you always have in College, see?" The feelings of optimism and motivation are drowned immediately by disgust and self-flagellation, yet I continue with my studies with the weirdest confidence that I still claim I have. I spend way too much time thinking about this, but I really do believe things will pan out, in my case - whether realistic or not.
You, Mayuko, and Jarvis must love the hell outta some youtube, or the tech field isn’t what it’s cracked up to be 🤔. Either way I support you all👏 do your thing!
S B mayuko had to commute like 2 hours a day to her job and joma said in the video he wants to switch to swe, at the end of the day it is still just a job
Haha this was super relatable on many levels, I am from a small liberal arts college from India with about 1500 students and have an average gpa. Hope I can make it like this person did.
click bait title, 2 minute ad and another promo to join leet code? WTF is this video?
Whats the click bait title?
I really don't know why people relate GPA and being a good professional. After almost 2 decades of experience I can tell that one has absolutely nothing to do with the other.
Great to see you back Joma!!!!
Its odd how awkward he is sometimes while having that background
He is back ❤️❤️😭
Wellcome back Joma! 🙏🤘😘
Joma is back back. Yeah!
Jennifer Okafor I’m going to do a review of one of Joma’s videos soon if you’re interested in following along!
You didn’t include his reddit post in the description.
2:06 When someone thinks Java and Java Script are the same thing
LOL 😂
Ah most youngsters forgot the hard work part...
fucking miss you joma the man!
And here I am making a 3.4 gpa as a freshman while all my other friends in the same year are nailing that 4.0, feels bad man
dis microwave tech support I usually don't care about GPA but I always try to get as much as I can:)
I had a low GPA in college - now working at a prestigious boutique investment firm 5 years later. Understand GPA doesn't mean everything, however all these commentors really downplaying it are full of shit. You would statistically pull a quality applicant in from a pool of high GPA applicants as opposed to a pool of low GPA applicants. You need to work hard to pull yourself from the crowd and drop the sense of entitlement.
Amazing video!!
WOW. I'm the opposite in one sense. I was a Computer Science Major but that became a double major in Computer Science AND Philosophy.
Glad to have you back Joma. Your videos always put a smile on my face :)
Glad to hear u are back to SWE😄everything is seems to workout in the end
It feels so good to have you back :) hope you’re doing well man.
Daniel Hernández I’m going to do a review of one of Joma’s videos soon if you’re interested in following along!
Joma is back!! Awesome
Video: Guy with 2.4 GPA now makes $300k
Nobody: with 2.4 GPA now makes $10 an hour
2Pro4u2 same lmao but zero
Never lose sleep over the small stuff lol awesome
Never lose sleep over the small stuff so what is your job?
@@roberttg3767 If you can turn $600 into $150k, why the hell would you get a "job"? lol...
Centre college in Kentucky is by no means a shit college. It’s tuition is higher than all public universities because it’s a private college.
2.9 GPA will to the United States Military
I read this guys reddit post a while ago and it made me super motivated. It’s awesome to get to see the guy who actually wrote it !!
Joma man you need to make more eye contact. It's really uncomfortable to be interviewed when the interviewer always looks elsewhere.
Hes not making eye contact because hes concentrating on what he is saying. It prevents his mind from wandering. When hes listening hes making eye contact 100 percent.
@@vic-sm3mr yep
Great to see u making videos again .
It's lovely to see your video again joma :)
Hi Joma, can you share his/your leet code account? I wanna see the timeline of what problems he solved before getting the interview
Did you happen to find it?
@@mynameis3005 yea, I saw it, he did reverse a linked list and two sum only
Can you link his profile please?
I would like to know how u went from 2.9 to uber
Skills?
Languages
What sorta projects
I am in my final yr of Bachelors in CS degree!
So this information will be very useful!
“shit college” dude why
lol jesus christ that really made me cringe
It's his brand. I just found this Joma guy and every video he's awkward as hell. Kinda feel bad for him because how does he not recognize the glaring errors?
I often feel like I’m worthless and a waste of space because I never had good grades. I hate myself.
K P No. You shouldn't think that way. No one should. Don't push ur self too hard.
Which job you quit? UA-camr or data scientist ?😂
@5:07 I got it...
Good to see you uploading again. Would love for you to make a video on why you felt data science wasn't for you.
Damn... SUPERG GLAD YOU’RE BACK..
Is Cyrus a brogrammar?
grab a leetcode problem and make an actual project with a real solution out of it.
or grab the concept of the solution to the problem and use it for that mini project.
repeat and combine them into new things.
That way U grab more than just the original
well Joma, your casual leetcode reference got me to sign up. It worked.
TheFootballPlaya is it worth it?
@@pakfeed6909 its a free sign up. you can upgrade of course. I think its pretty good to get familiar with different coding challenges. i'm not great at coding haha. pretty much a noob. But im in college and im probably going to be faced with it in the future - so for now, the challenges are helping me familiarize with it.
it's great to have you back :)
Uber does not pay SWE's 300k. How do I know? I work there as a SWE.
If you are level 5a, 5b, or 6, you should definitely be getting paid above 400k. If you are level 4, you should be paid $240. However, if you negotiate hard, you can raise that to be $300k.
What do they get paid now?
@@bryan7300 what are levels?
Nice video Joma, also Congrats for Cyrus.
The first link in the description is broken by Cyrus, please, edit it.
bit.ly/2TKoOvF, this one.
Last year of college as a computer information systems major and failing every class :)
That’s how my life is going right now 😎
Be strong 💪 man
I feel your pain T_T
I have 0.1 Gpa and im making 1 cent a year. I think i can make it to 1 dollar😕
I'm an aspiring SWE. I can guarantee you that "quantifiable progress" is my main frustration.
You hear the big numbers in Silicone Valley, but a big number is misconceived. After taxes and rent you are down significantly; that in combination with the poor quality of life means your $300k is minuscule.
Do what I do. I work remotely for a big tech company (HQ not located in CA) and I make $165k salary as a DevOps engineer living in the Middlesex region of MA. I barely graduated from high school and I only have a community college associates degree with no ambition to pursue my BA. I literally went from someone who had nothing in their life to where I am now in 4 years.
But how'd you get the job?
What was the process you went through? I'm guessing a combination of personal projects + GitHub? Very curious. Hope to hear from you
ayeeeee another joma video let’s goooo
👌👌💯💯
Hi joma!! first of all thanks god you are alive lol, so happy to see you back, as for the interview it was so interesting, please keep it up!!
Tornado air I’m going to review one of Jomas videos soon, if you’re interested in following along!
I knew I should’ve majored in comp sci
Adnan A it’s more than just majoring in it, if you don’t like the material and don’t care to learn it to its depth you will not thrive in the career field
This is best example why u should focus on a particular field/topic...
I always considered blinkist but never tried it, just signed up for the free trial, thanks!
You’re back 🔥🔥