Thanks for the guide! I wanted to add, you can choose the closer house to the trade manager in Tuscani farm that you run by. Yours is at least double the distance.
Great job man. Thank you for this guide. Freeing up some CP now as we speak. Looking forward to getting into this. Your vid is clear and easy to understand.!
This is a great guide. I want to thank you for creating such content. Few questions: 1) Can you place 2 alts: 1 at Velia and the other in Heidel to buy and store the trade goods which you'll later turn in on your main character placed at Lynch Ranch 2) What gives the most exp? Quantity or the quality of the item? (Is it better to trade items with higher weight using an elephant than using your character which has low weight but more inventory?)
1) Yes, you can use an alt at each city to buy the trade goods and then later turn them in on your main character, but some of the trade goods require a higher Trading level (up to Artisan 2) in order for you to buy them. That's the only reason I used my main character instead of alts. 2) Quantity is better than the "quality" of a trade item as far as I can tell. Whichever way allows you to carry and turn in more trade items will be better most likely.
you don't need 2 containers... you can simply pick up the container from one house, move to the next, and it will auto pull from the town you are near. Save 10cp for 2 seconds of work every time you are ready to move to the other area.
I was curious about just that, I use lynch farm and heidel but dont have the cp to do velia one also, do you think it would slow down my progress? Details. I have +33% when I do turn ins, about 2100 weight when over-filled. I haven't had the mental fortitude to do a super long session yet though so it's hard to guage the progress speed. Went from beginner to skilled 10 thusfar in about 7-8 hours with some distractions.
It will slow it down, but only by a few seconds each time. I used two more for a convenience factor because I would get annoyed picking up and placing a single container every time.
This is a mindless, monotonous task. 10 cp to NOT forget the container at each place while your multitasking is worth it to me. Fork up the 10 cp and forget about it.
I have also used this Method, but used 2 Alts to transport from trader->Storage in the main cities, this allows you to use expensive buffs on your main, since you wont have a lot of active time on that character (Potion of swiftness and villa buff become really effective doing this!
Yeah, the only reason I did it the other way is because I wanted to be able to buy the additional items that have a trade level requirement with my main character
You can rent multiple containers from multiple storage managers around the world. Wouldn't buying a house close to the trade managers in Velia/Heidel cut down even more time?
No the places he chose is because there was a trade nerf that decreased the xp recieved when trading items within 500m of the trade manager, those locations are both the closest to their respective cities and close to each other
I'm pretty sure he mean't close to trade manager just to avoid going to warehouse manager in that town. But you can't interact with the chest if you have trading items on you iirc, people use wagon and hug the walls to get into the house, good if you don't have a lot of weight/inventory space.
There's a minimum distance you need to travel to get the best experience rate, but I believe traveling any further just results in more silver but the experience is probably the same.
30-35 hours is not accurate from beginner 1, maybe 30-35 from professional or artisan. My friend and I have been going at this for 4 days, 12-16 hrs a day and we are just getting to artisan 5 from beginner 1. (using +3 traders clothes, sute tea, elixir of flowing time and some 10% life exp scrolls.) Would be nice if the title was edited to be 50-100 hrs...
Ive never tried with an elephant so I cant say for sure, but that sounds nice. You may have to wait on channel switch cooldown if it's that fast though.
I tried it and its a little slower than container, but u dont need much CP or weight for it. if you dont want to cash for weight limit go for elephant!!! For me it doesnt feel so nice, because you just get like 1-2 % per tour at artisan. so i pushed to master 2 with container method. way better to get 20% per run. THX alot :)
Can someone please help me with explaining how this is supposed to be a methode that takes around 40 hours? I tried it the last several days and it took me around 10 hours to get to proffesional 2 wich is around 2% of master 2 what am i missing??
How did you get so much weight limit? Did you purchase using pearls? EDIT: Note that I'm using Zereth Armor + Hercules' Might Hood/Shoes/Gloves + Basilisk's Belt and only have a limit of 800. EDIT2: For those who are thinking about doing this method but are concerned about money (loss or starting amount), you don't need to spend much on upgrading the storage spaces, and like the video says, keeping 500,000 silver on you is enough to get you through each circuit of buying/selling. From my experiences, you end up earning a bit more than what you paid (maybe 100-200k per run, if you connect the nodes properly as instructed in the video,)
The character I used had full pearl weight bought and 3/4 of the loyalty weight. She also had level 14 strength; not that that gives much weight limit lol.
idk how did u manage to get master 2 in 30-35h but im apprentice 9 for 3h or 4h :/ and im doing the same as you, the only difference is i have 950weight not 1400 like you
ATM i am at Professional 6 and need 6 Level more. But per Round i get only 30% .... And a round is longer than on you i have with all Buffs 1000 lt. I know with more LT it is very Faster :/ i think it will be 20 houres or more for the last level from Professional 6 - Artisan 2
Yeah I did this for like 2 hours and got to like apprentice 9, I highly suggest you guys watch some Netflix as you do this because it is fucking slow and boring as fuck
No its not. You just unlock the desert buff which costs 100 energy and gives you +50% trade income on goods for 1 hour. Thats why your income at Master 2 trading is far grater than on the lower levels.
This is so obsolete!. Nothing works like the video describes. Velia and Heidel has sell only Trade managers. You can't carry trade items. In 2023 this video is trash. Don't use it.
It depends on your trading level. At beginner you will probably get a full levels plus some for 1 channel. And it goes down to around 15% at Master trading. All depends on how many items you trade in and your buffs.
Master 2 trading is the requirement for the desert trading buff in Sharing (after youve completed the prerequisite quests). The reason most people go for Master 2 trading is so they can turn in their processed goods crates into a desert town for additional profit. Things like Calpheon Timber Crates, Steel Ingot Crates, or Jewelry Crates from timber/ore workshops.
I noticed you put your pets on red mode. So far what I found is that increases or decreases looting time and not percentages like 3% more trade xp or am I missing something?
Thanks for the guide! I wanted to add, you can choose the closer house to the trade manager in Tuscani farm that you run by. Yours is at least double the distance.
Lord, you sound like you need a reason to live.
Dont we all?
Lol 😂
Great job man. Thank you for this guide. Freeing up some CP now as we speak. Looking forward to getting into this. Your vid is clear and easy to understand.!
This seems to be pretty simple, I'm gonna start doing this couple hours daily to get master 2, thank you for the video. ;)
dude best explained video i have ever seen... im subscriving just from this video... thumbs up ( never sub for anyone.... well once in my life )
This is a great guide. I want to thank you for creating such content. Few questions:
1) Can you place 2 alts: 1 at Velia and the other in Heidel to buy and store the trade goods which you'll later turn in on your main character placed at Lynch Ranch
2) What gives the most exp? Quantity or the quality of the item? (Is it better to trade items with higher weight using an elephant than using your character which has low weight but more inventory?)
1) Yes, you can use an alt at each city to buy the trade goods and then later turn them in on your main character, but some of the trade goods require a higher Trading level (up to Artisan 2) in order for you to buy them. That's the only reason I used my main character instead of alts.
2) Quantity is better than the "quality" of a trade item as far as I can tell. Whichever way allows you to carry and turn in more trade items will be better most likely.
you don't need 2 containers... you can simply pick up the container from one house, move to the next, and it will auto pull from the town you are near. Save 10cp for 2 seconds of work every time you are ready to move to the other area.
I was curious about just that, I use lynch farm and heidel but dont have the cp to do velia one also, do you think it would slow down my progress? Details. I have +33% when I do turn ins, about 2100 weight when over-filled. I haven't had the mental fortitude to do a super long session yet though so it's hard to guage the progress speed. Went from beginner to skilled 10 thusfar in about 7-8 hours with some distractions.
It will slow it down, but only by a few seconds each time. I used two more for a convenience factor because I would get annoyed picking up and placing a single container every time.
Cain Um. I don't pick up and move container I just cycle heidel and lynch till its time to change servers.
it will a bit, yes, because u will be done with items before u can switch channels
This is a mindless, monotonous task. 10 cp to NOT forget the container at each place while your multitasking is worth it to me. Fork up the 10 cp and forget about it.
I have also used this Method, but used 2 Alts to transport from trader->Storage in the main cities, this allows you to use expensive buffs on your main, since you wont have a lot of active time on that character (Potion of swiftness and villa buff become really effective doing this!
Yeah, the only reason I did it the other way is because I wanted to be able to buy the additional items that have a trade level requirement with my main character
For heidel i just used a wagon to the storage made it so much faster
yepp. you also can use 1 storage container for both towns. so 10 CP not 20 CP, just pick it up with you.
Have using exactly the same method +3 costume. all buff xp, this is more 40-45h 17min per channel. really great guide man this help a lots for sure.
IM WATCHING A CAIN GUIDE in 2021 :O
if I do this for 30-35h I will go insane O.O
thanks mang. Much appreciated
good job helped me a lot thumbs up!!
great guide bb
sir, your inv slot is so insane, BDO sea server didnt have that much inv slot for beginner
I mean included the town storage slot, its insane
Add in the descr that you cant roll when you're over 125% anymore :P
Oh and btw witches can't roll at all xD they just dash
Manos gold belt is the best +100LT and +100 for every upgrade
THX very much / awesome
You can rent multiple containers from multiple storage managers around the world.
Wouldn't buying a house close to the trade managers in Velia/Heidel cut down even more time?
No the places he chose is because there was a trade nerf that decreased the xp recieved when trading items within 500m of the trade manager, those locations are both the closest to their respective cities and close to each other
I'm pretty sure he mean't close to trade manager just to avoid going to warehouse manager in that town.
But you can't interact with the chest if you have trading items on you iirc, people use wagon and hug the walls to get into the house, good if you don't have a lot of weight/inventory space.
No. Tried this before but it wont let you open the Container when you have trade items in inventory.
Does it still work in 2019???
์Nice work man ! But I have to buy Max inventory slot from cash shop right ?
Just as many as you'll need so 40 would work
Heey! Is there more experience when you go to a dealer who is farther away? ( Sry i write this with googletranslater xD my english isnt good :D)
There's a minimum distance you need to travel to get the best experience rate, but I believe traveling any further just results in more silver but the experience is probably the same.
30-35 hours is not accurate from beginner 1, maybe 30-35 from professional or artisan. My friend and I have been going at this for 4 days, 12-16 hrs a day and we are just getting to artisan 5 from beginner 1. (using +3 traders clothes, sute tea, elixir of flowing time and some 10% life exp scrolls.) Would be nice if the title was edited to be 50-100 hrs...
It was accurate for me when this was posted. They might have changed the rates since then.
is that enough to use only heidel? or is + velia important
If you only use Heidel you might get finished before you can even channel swap
Is Elephant > Container? I need 5 min for heidel-velia-heidel. Thats 48 items per 5 min. So around 580 items per h, right?
How about Container method?
Ive never tried with an elephant so I cant say for sure, but that sounds nice. You may have to wait on channel switch cooldown if it's that fast though.
I tried it and its a little slower than container, but u dont need much CP or weight for it. if you dont want to cash for weight limit go for elephant!!!
For me it doesnt feel so nice, because you just get like 1-2 % per tour at artisan. so i pushed to master 2 with container method. way better to get 20% per run. THX alot :)
change channels for refresh trade goods to buy?
Of this method you lose silver coins or win? Besides gaining much trade
Neither really. If you gain any, it won't be much. Same if you lose silver.
no longer works, the game won't allow you to deposit into storage anymore. but thank you for the knowledge ^^
Rip i cant do this :( I have the toscani farm for level 2 lodging so i can get my 9 workers in velia
Can someone please help me with explaining how this is supposed to be a methode that takes around 40 hours? I tried it the last several days and it took me around 10 hours to get to proffesional 2 wich is around 2% of master 2 what am i missing??
Does heidel and veila need to be connected?
Is NPC trade items gives more exp than trash crates?
What about terif and the town by its right side? Im gonna test that.
How did you get so much weight limit? Did you purchase using pearls?
EDIT: Note that I'm using Zereth Armor + Hercules' Might Hood/Shoes/Gloves + Basilisk's Belt and only have a limit of 800.
EDIT2: For those who are thinking about doing this method but are concerned about money (loss or starting amount), you don't need to spend much on upgrading the storage spaces, and like the video says, keeping 500,000 silver on you is enough to get you through each circuit of buying/selling. From my experiences, you end up earning a bit more than what you paid (maybe 100-200k per run, if you connect the nodes properly as instructed in the video,)
The character I used had full pearl weight bought and 3/4 of the loyalty weight. She also had level 14 strength; not that that gives much weight limit lol.
But who does not have weight at most, would it be good to use a wagon?
Wagon would slow you down quite a bit since it's sluggish and you'd only be able to carry as many slots as your wagon has
For the villa near altinova when u buy the scroll for the 10% life exp does it just give it to u right when u buy it
Yes; when you buy the buff from the NPC it activates immediately. It doesn't give you an item or anything for you to activate later on.
Noob Question: Why do you have to roll? why cant you just use a horse?
You can't use a mount while carrying trade items.
I'm sorry. I said that wrong. Why don't you put the items on a horse? Is it because you can't place many on a horse?
The horse cant carry 40 like you can and rolling is faster than walking
idk how did u manage to get master 2 in 30-35h but im apprentice 9 for 3h or 4h :/ and im doing the same as you, the only difference is i have 950weight not 1400 like you
Mind numbing rolling lol. You only need Artisan 2 now so it's not nearly as long
ATM i am at Professional 6 and need 6 Level more. But per Round i get only 30% .... And a round is longer than on you i have with all Buffs 1000 lt. I know with more LT it is very Faster :/ i think it will be 20 houres or more for the last level from Professional 6 - Artisan 2
Is it still working, friends?
Yeah I did this for like 2 hours and got to like apprentice 9, I highly suggest you guys watch some Netflix as you do this because it is fucking slow and boring as fuck
Is this still viable in Oct 2k18?
is this method still works?
This still working in Feb 2k18?
NOT
It got nerfed ?
is this still viable ?
Guys why do you need Master 2 for trading? Someone please explain me
Cause the price of the ingot/wood crates is tripled at Master 2.
No its not. You just unlock the desert buff which costs 100 energy and gives you +50% trade income on goods for 1 hour. Thats why your income at Master 2 trading is far grater than on the lower levels.
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Is this still work?
still working?
bruh is this still work?
has this been nerfed yet ?
How much silver did you need to complete this?
-20 Billion
No idea, you don't really make or lose silver with this as far as I could tell. You only need 2-3 million to start out though, if that.
You're wrong, i earned 20 million with the nodes connected doing this method neophite to master 2
This is so obsolete!. Nothing works like the video describes. Velia and Heidel has sell only Trade managers. You can't carry trade items. In 2023 this video is trash. Don't use it.
does anyone know if this works for ps4?
yes
its still work ?
Mmm I don't think so since trading exp has been nerfed for near distances.. idk tho
Do you loose money doing this?
You don't really lose money if you have the nodes connected, but you don't really gain any silver either.
Now rolling quits you 2/3 of the exp so ...
yes i heard that, haven't tested myself but it's pretty easy
Too complicated.
Not simplified enough in explaining.
Thanks for the video though. My feeble brain can't handle what is being shown.
Wait.. How are you still rolling? Didn't they patch it out?
They just made the distance you have to travel for exp further. Thats why we trade in further away from origin
The patch nerfed by 3 the xp if below 500 distance, not the rolling itself.
How much xp should this be giving
It depends on your trading level. At beginner you will probably get a full levels plus some for 1 channel. And it goes down to around 15% at Master trading. All depends on how many items you trade in and your buffs.
Cain thx man
still working???
Havent heard anything about it not working, but I havent tried it again since I achieved Master 2
How do you buy max items so fast?
Use the keyboard shortcuts, [F] for maximum quantity and [Space] for confirmation
holy, how can you press Leftclick F and Space so freakn fast
By using two hands at the same time.
Great guide, but what should I do once I hit master 2, since we wont earn silver with this method? 🙏🏻
Master 2 trading is the requirement for the desert trading buff in Sharing (after youve completed the prerequisite quests). The reason most people go for Master 2 trading is so they can turn in their processed goods crates into a desert town for additional profit. Things like Calpheon Timber Crates, Steel Ingot Crates, or Jewelry Crates from timber/ore workshops.
Ty for video :3
Is this still viable ?
Yes, you can still do this method but you now only need to go to Artisan 2
Artisan 2 trading? And then this method to m2?
You can stop at Artisan 2 now unless you just want the 0.5% increased profits per level or whatever it is
I noticed you put your pets on red mode. So far what I found is that increases or decreases looting time and not percentages like 3% more trade xp or am I missing something?
Slows down the rate that they consume food so I have to feed them less
Does this method still work?
As far as I know it does :)