So you got all your workers collecting resources around the world, you send all those resources to Calpheon where you personally process it yourself, you use the Ash and Maple in Balenos crates, Birch/Fir and Cedar in Calpheon crates, Copper/Zinc in Brass crates, iron/coal Steel crates. After you've personally processed all the plywood/bars you put it all back into the storage in Calpheon and have your artisan workers from old Wisdom tree make them into those crates in Calpheon. Then you get on an alt below level 50 (So he doesn't get pvpd?) and transfer all of those crates you made in Calpheon to some city in the desert and sell them at their trade manager?(Do i need to follow the node path, or just go the fastest route? From Calph to Desert city) I need a certain trade level? Sorry for all this, I'm noob and trying to understand the system you're doing while also maximizing it lol. But have I basically got this right? It's missing farming and those later ores in deserts, but I better just learn the basics first.
Im not the content creator. You have this right. Except once you get to the desert switch to main (or master 2 trading ult) use the shrine buff then trade them into manager.
Cool thanks a lot! But what is the shrine buff and the more important thing lol, how do I get all the crates onto my alt and also how does my alt get them to the desert? I read horse stacking somewhere but I don't know what that is. I'm really new.
Don't apologize, you seem to have it all down. You want the alt under level 50 so it can't die because if a horse dies while carrying crates, you lose most of the crates aka billions. I suggest you take the road route and be careful of bandits (don't leave the room while auto pathing). You can take the fastest route, but if a mob kills your horse it is ggwp. I suggest taking a look at my farming video since farming is where almost half the money comes from this guide. Please ask any more questions down below c:
I know this is an old video but I have a basic question : when you make crates, the materials have to be in the town where the workbench is, or in the town where the workers are from ?
a few problems i found: 1. it's 11cp to take the dephe route, but only 7 to take the heidel pass route (assuming you're aiming for the nodes you said) 2. zinc nodes are so expensive to get and pretty much by themselves, so a large majority of competitive lifeskillers ignore them entirely in favor of storage cp etc 3. taking arehaza route to gavinya is 2cp instead of the the ivory wasteland route, saving 1cp and allows you to mass produce palm trash crates for trade exp notes: 1. lodging is probably the best pay2win worth in the game for lifeskills 2. the desert trading buff doesn't work in arehaza/ancado (so stuff needs to be traded to valencia) 3. 250m for calpheon timber crates is a generous estimate and includes processing a few hours daily; assuming all crates in this video give that much (they don't), it's only 1.25b (for 5 types of crates) and you'll essentially be processing all of your waking hours in bdo; also assuming that you spend ~10h processing daily (probably a decent estimate), time spent playing bdo grinding instead (we'll say 1/4 time bdo is spent grinding) is 2.5h daily, 30x for a month = ~1b (1.5b for gyfin), the time is better spent grinding and you'll get levels and skill pts too don't be disillusioned by the idea of making 2b monthly, because the amount of work it takes makes it essentially the same as doing other tasks, so you should probably go for the most profitable crates and just do those casually for some supplemental income
My man YOU are telling knowledge that "newer" players need to hear. Realistic goals for max outcome. I thought the guide was decent but once he mentioned money estimates I got to thinking about how much real time would be spent processing. And then when he mentioned casually to p2w lodging I felt really distanced by yet another guide. Maybe you should be making one.
titanium/vandium ingot crates are both ~40k w/ 2 nodes ea and costs ~12cp total ----- you can do mediah timber crates if you want, ~40k ea w/ 2 nodes ea for ~25cp ----- calpheon timber crates are a very poor cp to profit ratio and shouldn't be invested in w/ ~60k ea w/ 3 nodes ea (for each mat req.) for ~50cp-ish? total ----- bronze ingot crates are ~30k ea w/ 3 nodes ea (for each mat req.) for ~15cp-ish? total, but ONLY if you already have calpheon timber crate nodes, because it shares connections and makes calpheon timbers less of a bad choice; therefore, calpheon timbers and bronze ingot crating should be established together ----- finally, there's steel ingot crates for ~20k ea w/ 2 nodes ea (for each mat req.; limiting factor is coal, so essentially 2 nodes ea), and the cp required depends heavily on your current node network, so it can cost only ~5cp up to ~30 ----- summary: ** titanium/vanadium is a must for everybody (palm crates too for leveling trading as newb), but everything else is preference and depends either on current node setup to dictate cp cost, or how much time you want to invest shifting items around warehouses ** i would personally do titanium/vanadium, palm, then as i find out how much time i like to spend afk processing and if i want to afk more, add mediah, and then calpheon/bronze if i really have nothing better to do, but likely the cp is better saved not spending it on calpheon/bronze unless you're a vet ** ores are in a really nice place where they can basically be done overnight, but timber is much heavier and has to be done during the day, thus adding crate types will not additively reduce your available time, but exponentially ** realistic money is ~80m/mo for both titanium/vanadium, ~30m/mo? for mediah, ~100m/mo? for calpheon, ~30m/mo? for bronze, and ~120m/mo? for steel (mats are gathered very quickly) ** as you add more crates to your empire, you move towards more trash crate locations and can add those for ez trade exp (don't expect more than 2k in each type of trash crate per month) ** if people make much more money than my suggested rough estimates, it's because they no-life it, and in that case you may as well no-life grinding and you'll be rewarded much more for it ** i don't make guides because i feel 'quickstart experience' isn't a good thing; i could setup infographics on topics that people didn't even realize was viable, but all it does is bring a bandwagon of people flocking towards get-rich-quick schemes and ruin the fun of those actually participating in the activity (ie: sailing being the most profitable money in the game by a factor of 5x over the 2nd quickest method, but that's all i'll say about that)
1) If is cheaper to go the delphe route than it is to take the heidel pass because you are connecting Old Wisdom to Velia to Valencia. 2) Zinc nodes are expensive, but provide materials for brass, with some even giving platinum ore. 3) The reason I opt out of the Arehaza route is the fact that many people are lazy and don't want to go to Valencia to get materials out of bank and process them. For that reason I suggest Ancado lodging and using those workers to gather the matts. This way is more CP intensive, but allows players to send matts to be processed. I do agree that loding is P2W and the best investment of your money next to pets and weight. I also appreciate you taking your time to comment as you provided some details and options I did not in the video. As for making 2bil a month this is extremely viable for anyone that doesn't mind leaving their game on while they sleep, work, and play other games. cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/155971776344489985/408762058025467915/Monthy_earnings.png
you don't need to use valencian workers, can still save 1cp by using arehaza route and using ancado workers fine i'd expect i guess the velia path depends on preference, you save 1cp by doing maple in forest of seclusion AND corn in toscani, but save 1-3 cp by going through heidel pass if you don't have any sub-node investments in either of the two nodes if sunflower crates accounted for half the income, i would've emphasized it more during the video lol; efficiency-wise (and better for newbs) would be to get those fences up so asap they can make 50% of the profit with ~1/3 the cp requirement; i didn't even know about that (and may do it over some of my node network considering i'm struggling finding available cp)
Every time i do the math with the crate calc, making all these crates, stacking, and turning them in with trade buff is only around 20% additional profit from processing everything and tossing it on the market after the 15% tax. so basically youre going through all this to avoid market taxes For me it seems like waiting for crafting, and breaking my wrist stacking horses is way more than 20% additional effort. I could have the cp used for workshops instead used for farms, which if you grow something like special strawberries is around 10m/day profit if you are able to keep buying seeds off mp im sure im missing something here, so enlighten me if that is the case.
One thing I don't understand, you have spots for like 8 workers in the velia region but you only get 6 lodgings in velia, do you send workers from Heidel?
where do you hoard all the materials? in calpheon? do only the 4 old wisdom tree workers make the crates? and the others gather? do you personally process the plywood/etc. ? do you also send all the material from other towns, to calpheon ?
You have to process your own plywood, workers are a terrible method. You send materials you want to crate to Old Wisdom / Grana. Once the materials are there, you send workers from your city of choice ([Old Wisdom Tree to Calpheon] or [Grana to Grana]) to a workbench. I just use Calpheon to process my materials because having everything in one city simplifies things.
hey trollsies, i have another question, im currently aquiring workers, i took fadus personally, but i have 2 workers with +3 timber crates, 1 crop and 1 ore, is that an issue? shouldnt there be 2 timber since that is our main crate basically? i had a hard time aquiring these :D energy and silverwise. so i just wanna make sure before i fire 1 timber worker. can you tell me your reasoning or if that even is necessary to change?
Actually you can also buy lodging at shui farm instead of tarif, since it's cheaper. Then you save the 3cp you have to spent in the guard camp to send the heidel worker to mediah
That is a neat idea, but investing in that node ends up costing alot. In my more recent guide, I have a more optimal connection path. Good idea though for players that don't P2W lodging!
im trying to use the workers from old wisdom in calpheon, when i go to crafting it tells me not enough resources in storage... when i select a calpheon worker it will craft.... is this a bug?
Great video but what about lodging/type of workers/preferred worker skills/origin of workers for each node specific? You mentioned the old wisdom tree ones and altinova ore ones. But what about the rest?
i kinda go over that near the end of my most recent video. goblins > humans if can feed every hour. humans > goblins if not. goblins > humans always if travel distance is long.
Trent and Bheg work shops are all quite pricey when compared to calpheon, and we are only talking about a 3min difference. This is what I do with my 330+ CP, but since this is a budget guide, I felt the CP was better spent elsewhere.
hey Trollsies,thx for the video.It helps a lot.And i do have a question for u.You only have one ore workshop and one timber workshop according to ur video,but there are like 3 or 4 kinds of crates.How to balance that?Thx in advance!!!
Buying bear off market still works if you snipe it! If you have any more questions either reply here or msg on discord or ask on my new twitch! Links in description if interested :D
Wait so, you have the workers in old wisdom tree. You have trent workers go gather wood, but doesn't that wood go to trent? How do the old wisdom tree workers go get that wood to make into crates?
Hey, awsome video really helped me getting my stuff ready but i still have 1 problem i dont understand.. where do i "buy" my workers for all the nodes where i farm my coal, wood etc and if its lets say calpheon do i transport all the farmed materials to old wisdom tree how do i handle this + where do i need to buy the lodging? :) thanks in advance
Uhm. I suggest you p2w all of your lodging, that way you save out on a lot of cp. Even when you p2w lodging you will still need some lodging in the bigger cities like Velia/Calpheon, as well as up to 10 lodging slots to have workers manage farms. You buy workers from worker managers (icon looks like a pickaxe). As for how to handle matts, I personally send all unprocessed matts to calpheon and process there. Once the matts are processed I send them to grana/old wisdom. You do not need to have cities connected to transport goods, but you do need silver in the bank, so just put like 5mil in each city :D
Hey thanks for your answer :) how many workers do u recommend for mainting all farming nodes + can u go with p2w lodging + normall ones but only from calpheon so i dont need to send so much raw mats around?
Hey Trollsies, i have a doubt. Once you p2w the lodging spaces, you have to work with your workers until they get the special x3-x2 crate development, when do u know they dont gonna get it so you must fire them? or u can p2w the ability also? thanks :)
I have a problem with this setup. When i want to send my Old wisdom tree worker to calpheon to make the crates it says that i need the base materials in old wisdom tree and not in calpheon ist that true? Cause what i have seen in that video was that you didnt had any mats in old wisdom tree. So i will need to send all mats to old wisdom tree or not?
Thanks for the follow up Trollsies. Why not send Grana workers to Calph benches? Wouldn't the distance bonus be bigger? Is Wisdom Tree just recommended because of the ease in rolling artisans? If i'm at 288 CP grinding to 300 should I be using workbenches in Grana and not use Calpheon at all? I think most people do Grana bench + Trent benches. I've been stockpiling materials from my empire for 3.5 months and have never traded. I'm getting ready to reconfigure my empire for production and start processing haha
You send Grana workers to Grana and Old Wisdom workers to Calpheon. The ease of rolling +3 workers in Old Wisdom is so good that using trent workers instead is just a waste. Then there's the fact that Old Wisdom workers are cheaper than Trent workers. This is because shops in Calpheon are all 1-2 cp and require no previous buildings, where Trent workshops require sets of buildings to be bought and the buildings themselves are much more expensive. Hope that clarified some things, if not, comment below.
I have a big question and that is how you get all your resources to the city you need to build in? Say you have lots of stuff in Calph, you get an alt and carrie the stuff to old tree?
Im wondering why you do not keep the gathering towns connected so you can ship your timer/ores to 1 city for processing? how do you manage that? (I dont have a VP to connect/disconnect whenever I want)
Nice Video! Subed alrdy :D Question. I alrdy moved from Heidel to Grana. Got my storage up and so on. Should i add youre thing to my + Grana? So making crates in Grana (2x) & in Calpheon (4x) ? is it worth or should i bench my "2x" in Grana and just take the CP to get more nodes for mats? Alrdy i got 300CP and all are used into storage&nodes&benches/worker. None in farming :S
Unless your Grana workers have +3 Timber, Ore, and Produce then I suggest you also get Old Wisdom Tree too. Personally, I would p2w city storage and lodging so that all of your CP can go towards farms. Farming makes me about 1 BII a month, and with your cp, 700 extra mil would be guaranteed as long as you are a semi active player. However, if you don't process for 8+ hours a day, or want to start start farming at all, then grana is the only major city you need.
Okay thx, 1 more question. U got youre 4 benches, for youre crates. But where do you make youre wood -> plywood or ore -> steel? So u need somewhere more work benches
Hi, great guide, quick question, can you do the quests to get the trade buff on a level 49? as ppl recommend using lower than 50 character so not to get pvp'd
Said this in reply to a similar comment, but you are only using a level 49 alt to transfer the crates from Old Wisdom stable to Valencia stable. Not using that character to turn the crates into the vender.
Yeah I did see that, but wondered if I could do it all on my lifeskiller, but I guess it's not too much effort to swap. I also wondered how many hours you leave the game running a day to make that amount of silver. I look forward to more videos from you, you've gained a new follower
How do I get my Old Wisdom worker to work in calpheon when all the wood materials are in calpheon? do i ship over the wood to old wisdom tree so my workers can make the crates? i dont get it
when you assign worker from old wisdom tree to work in calpheon. He will walk all the way to calpheon and work in calpheon (you can literally see it going in and out from old wisdom tree to your workshop). After the works is done, He wll bring the product with him back home to old wisdom tree.
After doing this, I can't ever catch up to the production speed. Is this normal? It takes 80 bronze ingot per hour for 8 crates and it takes so long to process enough to have a constant production of crates.
Make sure you 100% success rate for processing. +2 clothes, food, alchemy stone, costume, should get you to 100%. Only way to truly keep up with everything here is processing for 15+ hours a day. Most player wont do this, but this is the most optimal way to spend your cp for afk play. This is only what i do while in college, and not able to grind as much. Most will just focus one 1-2 crates. So Calpehon and Steel. Those are the easiest and best bang for the buck timewise.
Ok I'm running to issue where i just got done building boat so all my cp was tied up in boat making i watched this went to set up but i have to many workers and was based out viella so a lot energy and time spent moving shit around via transport but know im all confused on how many workers should one have with this set up i feel as ive dumped to much of my cp in to lodging i guess is where confused and i also had majority of my worker in hiedal and veila currently at 260 cp
How are you consolidating raw materials to process them into what you need for the crates? Are you running between cities every now and then or using the transport system?
At Old Wisdom Tree are you saying to buy and fire them if they don't have the crate skill as their first skill and keep doing this until I get one with the crates skill as the first skill
I just got an artisan papu worker at old wisdom tree, it has the +3 wheat/veggie but the work speed to calpheon is like 45 minutes Is that just because it's level 1? Will it get faster once I get it up? 7 minutes seems like a pretty serious drop
Aaron K since the worker has +3 every time it goes it males 4 crates. Some simple math later 45mins/4 crates per run =11.25mins per crate so yeah it can drop to 7 mins per crate once you level it up.
Good vid, good tips on some nodes out past Valencia I didn't pay attention to (sort of a new player). I also like your sea route for connecting to Ancado, I never thought of that way - I need to get out on my sailboat more often lol. I also have a couple suggestions for your next video that I hope you don't take offense to! Cienaga - see EN ah gah (assuming this is derived from Spanish) Vanadium -- vah NAY dee um Acacia - uh KAY sha
Hi Trollsies. I am a complete noob when it comes to trading but your video has inspired me to give it a try. Is it mandatory to hold off until you get the +3 Papu workers? I have spent hours (days) and a ton of energy and $ and have not had any RNG go my way. Should I just start with any 4 Papu and keep trying to get them as I go or is it mandatory to wait until you have the +3s? Thanks in advance and thanks again for the great video.
It is really best to just suck it up and keep rolling. Thats what I had to do even though it killed me inside. I don't suggest you get involved with non +3 Papu's in Old Wisdom. If you really don't wana roll, just use Grana Workers to make Grana Crates, and remove your Calpheon workshops.
hey quick question here! I currently produce calpheon timber boxes in trent shall i stop that and let them produce by an old wisdom tree worker?+ i have 40 cp over when do u release the 300 cp video?
Invest into Grana and get a wood workbench, x2 crop factories, and a mineral workbench there. Then send majority of materials (excluding sunflowers) to Grana instead of Old Wisdom.
for 150 workload nodes you want goblins with >150 workspeed to finish them in one tick. for the 200 ones you can use humans, cuz you will need 2 ticks anyways, no matter if you use goblin or human. that's if you are playing alot. if you don't play much you might want to go more for humans/giants cuz they work much longer unattended.
hello trollsies, i have a question if we using papu worker wrom old wisdom tree for crate, are the crate origin from old wisdom tree? how about grana? i need more exlplain if me example, want to make the crate from grana thankyou
Yea crates originate from the worker sent to make them. Technically you could send a Grana worker ALLLL the way to Valencia, and it would be a Valencia Crate. For that reason, we use Grana Workers for Grana Workshops, and Old Wisdom Tree Workers for Calpheon Workshops. PS: Put materials to make the crate in the storage with the worker, not the storage with the workshop!
i bought 3 artisan workers from old wisdom tree. and i connected all my nodes to calpheon but it doesnt let me create crates. i even have the steel materials. ( coal and melted iron shards) but it doesnt let me start crafting the steel
Hi there thanks for this tutorial , can you make another about what you doing later with all those mats, so how you making crate and all the rest up to seling time ? Thanks Buddy keep it good work
So let me get this straight, You get all nodes then send / carry all meterials to Calpheon, Process everything. Then you use Grana / old wisdom workers to craft the crates in Calpheon workshops but the crates will be in Grana / old wisdom then you carry the crates from grana / old wisdom all the way to the desert to a trade manager? And I have some questions: Can you use remote collection on your mounts while carrying many crates? won't you lose some if you do? how many crates should I have before start the journey? Do I need the Maid Custom for the processing? or is it fine without it? Still don't understand which crates are trash and which are not. Do I need to lvl up the trading to master 2 before starting? if so, how?
Old wisdom workers make grana crates. Grana workers make grana crates. Send all crates to your major city to process, or go to each city to process the materials. Send materials to the cities in which the workers reside, not necessarily the city where the workshops are i.e. calpheon. You cannot remote collect, will lose almost all crates 7.2k is max, but can do any number if in need of silver Maid costume is best for 2+ hours of afk, but not required if doing something else for afk sleep income I did not show any trash crates in the video. Trash crates are (Iron ore, copper ore, ash timber). You simply buy the base level of these materials and have workers crate them (no processing done). This is only done to get art 1/m2 trading, for the buff. You only need art 1 now, but getting master before turning in very valuable crates will help, since you get a higher bargain value the higher your trading level. Hope that helps!
You saying grana and old sidom tree workers are making the crates but in the video you say to get the workshops in Calpheon? I'm confused. If you cannot remote collect so how I saw a video of someone taking out lvl 1 horses from stable with thousands of crates and he had more than 4 horses? I understand the maid outfit is only good for 2+ hours but is this method for trading still efficient without one? Also you said that you should get a character below lvl 50 to do the trading but I see your doing the trading on your main?
How is old wisdom tree workers the way to go? If I used calpheon workers with +3 packing skills I can produce crates twice as fast and I doubt that the distance bonus would be twice as much...
16% more money going from Old Wisdom to Valencia vs Calpheon to Valencia. Also getting +3 packing skills on non Old Wisdom workers, is next to impossible.
Plump Samurai Yea was problem with encoding software, will fix in the next video. Video will include 300-350cp setup but will go over almost everything seen in this video again.
Both can be used, i prefer goblins since i am on almost 24/7, if not on that often humans are a much better choice for short-medium distances. However, goblins must be used for long distances like from Old Wisdom Tree - Calpheon.
OK. How you use ur workers from Old Wisdom Tree. They tell me, i need my materials in the storage from Old Wisdom Tree that my workers work in Calpheon.
Stumped, need help. I'm doing a test run with my first worker I've rolled a +3ore Papu in OWT. I sent 500Blackstone and 30Brass I had on hand to OWT. In Calph when I manage the mineral workbench and select my papu and brass ingot crate I get the following message (regardless if i set it to 1 run, 1 repeat or 50k repeat ): "Not enough materials for repetitive task." Open to any suggestions.. ** Followup I suppose its just BDO being glitchy, same worker able to make steel ingot crate just fine...
Sunflowers should realistically be priority number one, unless you are not active during 3 seperate 5 hour intervals a day. Since many are not, processing is usually the way to go for most. Leftover CP should be put into farms though, instead of bad nodes.
Really thanks a lot for this video. I wanted starting money with life skill and your video really help me. What you think about Herb crates ? only found 1 old tree wisdom worker with that at this time.
Nope, you go by sea instead. As long as city where the crate's workers originate from is connected to valencia, then there is no reason to connect altinova.
Velia is the perfect place for farming because you don't need to water your crops. BDO has a sort of climate system that takes factor in cases like this.
Is it still worth selling special sunflower crates? i play in SA each sunflower costs 6.5k, i need 10 of it and 2.7k from black stone powder, 67.7k. Using the somnethinglovely calculator i saw i would get 61k per crat with desert buff, is that wright?
You don't want to buy sunflowers off the market, only seeds, and make sure you are using 100% desert buff. You also have to bargain, and if you do all that, it is definitely still worth it!
Hey what do you prefer? I have all of those nodes after your video but im confused, should i Process and Sell them on MP or Make them Crates and Trade? what do you prefer? thanks..
Looking forward to the next video, hope you touch up in more detail on how to manage the farms as well as... where do I actually sit processing? Calpheon? Also can you please elaborate a little more on where to send workers from on each node?
Going to do farming video soon. Also doesn't matter where you process. Some like to go from city to city, others like to seend mats to one place and process there. Up to you. However I personally chop in calpheon. As for workers, if I didn't say specifically that "x" workers goes "xxxx", then you use the worker from the town/territory closest to it possible with current connections.
Hello, You said it is 7.5 mins per crate craft time with +3 Papu Workers from Old wisdom tree to Calpheon. Is this true? I am crafting in Trent for Calpheon timber and trash crates using old wisdom workers, but its like 21mins. Although it is only lv6 +3 papu workers. Thanks in advance.
I said some amount of time like that because I divided the actual craft time (30min) by 4, since thats how long it takes to craft a single crate. Therefor you get, 14-15 crates an hour. I forget the exact math I used, but something similar.
What's the point of getting two white cedar nodes when there is only one Acacia? I see the workload on the Elric Shrine white cedar is much higher than the other two. Wouldn't we just want the acacia from Stonetail Wasteland and the white cedar from Mediah Northen Highlands, and then save 3 contribution by only passing through Elric without getting the gathering node.
I never leveled Trading. So that means i should save all the crates you mention in your video until i have M2? What are those junk crates that i need to level my trading and how do i make them, I don't see them in the workshop. Thank you for putting effort in this video, it really helps new/old returning players.
Junk/trash crates refers to something like Iron Ore Crate (e.g. something your workers can gather a lot of). You lose silver through the cost of the iron ore and black stone powder, but it's one of the fastest ways to level trading with minimal effort actually put into trading.
Art 2 is fine to trade in crates now, but if you wana min max you can easily hold out into Master 2 for a bonus 50mil ish on 7k timber bargains. Junk crates are any timber/ore you find in bulk on the market. Just buy 10k+ and crate it at base level. Once you have 7k of a particular material, then run it over to Anacado. MAKE SURE NODES ARE CONNECTED! The junk crates are just called ash timber crate, or copper ore crate.
For crates sunflowers are hard to beat. If really into farming you can place 2 of your 10 fences in mediah and do x2 fields of Special Purple Mushroom, but doing this requires 6 times a day gathering to be effective. As well as, two characters with Artisan 1 Farming. A.K.A. way too much work. If you don't have Art 2 trading and want to still do farming, you can just list farming mats that sell within a day to the market. Or sell special sunflower seeds on the market. Market + Value Pack is almost the same monthly profits as trading, but it takes up all your marketplace slots. Slots you might want to use to list other items. For example; Grunil Armor, Yuria Weapons, Foods, Good Feed, Elixirs.
If you already have +3 trent workers, then just use the trent workshop and use extra cp for farming, and to advance to Grana for more crates. +3 Trent > +3 Wisdom. Msg on discord for a personal setup C:
minerals from workbench are just ores like iron, copper, and zinc. You melt all the ores into shards, then melt copper + zinc, and iron + coal (base do not process to shards). As for what to use crop factory for, i made a farming video that covers that. Hope i helped.
how much CP is in nodes, and housing itself. i have 253 CP where 98 is housing and 147 in Nodes. Having trouble connecting everything and investing in it all cuz i need the storage?
Would it be fine if i removed one +3 fruit/grain for 1 more +3 timber or ore? or even both fruit for ore/timber? I dont own any farms and i dont like them either. Thanks
Awesome guide! I’m still trying to figure out my set up. I’m at 255 cp but I believe a majority of my cp is being tied up in storage houses in Heidel. I have no fir nodes or farms and I don’t even think I have old tree discovered yet. I’d love to make this kind of money with this set up. Any help fixing my setup would be appreciated!!
I suggest you either A: Buy storage with pearls, or B: Spread out all of your supplies to different storages like Keplan, Glish, and Olvia. Also just managing your bank should clear up some things, as well as, using alts and storage is great too!
Trollsies yeah I really should clean up my storage. I hoarded mats for alchemy at one time so I’ve got plants galore. So I take it your crafting the crates in old tree and sending them to ancado?
sorry, my English is bad I have some question 1.250CP include house?(warehouse,dorm room...) i dont spent cash on warehouse,dorm room ,so i worry about it ,i have 306CP 2.where should i hire worker to make tradebox and buy woodworkbench,crop factory?
1) 306 CP should be enough if you don't want to p2w anything at all, just diversify storages so you don't spend so much on warehouses. 2) Hire Papu Workers in Grana, and buy workshops in Grana. PS: Your english is fine~
Hey Trollsies! I wished I’ve discovered your videos earlier but better late than never. Im a new player(2months old) & i havent got the time to actively grinding due to work so im looking for another way to make silvers. I followed your exact nodes on ur previous video but I only got 260 cp and later found out that it wasnt enough after hours of connecting the nodes manually lol feelsbad. I have a few questions to ask 1. Im currently playing in SEA server & we don’t have Kama out yet, any alternatives to this? 2. Im currently power leveling trading on my lvl 17 alt but I just read somewhere that I would need to be lvl 55 to obtain the desert buff(via quest), is this true? If so, then how would I counter the fact that I could get killed while riding my horse to trade these items? 3. If you dont mind, is there any way to connect with you so i could ask you questions easier. Many thanks in advance man!
Glad you enjoyed the videos! If you don't have kama yet, you are forced to make sunflower crates in port rat. For ore and timber you just make them in trent. Use beverant amity workers for the 2 ore workshops, and art goblins for the 3 wood workshops. You might have to mess around with nodes a bit. Just remember to get the 3 workshops that you sent trent workers to (Trent, Longleaf, Bher). I do believe the level 55 req is true, but I am not 100% sure. 55 can be achieved in a day though, so wouldn't be a big deal if not. Best way to transfer crates is to stack them on a horse using a low level character. Once you reach Valencia City, just put horse in the stable, and head over on your main to trade them in. You can always message me on discord Trollsies#7444, but I get lost in messages sometimes, but always reply here eventually. Discord if i don't reply in a day, i probably never will xD
Good job answering all the comments my friend!!! Plus one of the most recent BDO vids out there from what I could find.
Again good job!
haha thanks, I try to get to them every day or so
So you got all your workers collecting resources around the world, you send all those resources to Calpheon where you personally process it yourself, you use the Ash and Maple in Balenos crates, Birch/Fir and Cedar in Calpheon crates, Copper/Zinc in Brass crates, iron/coal Steel crates. After you've personally processed all the plywood/bars you put it all back into the storage in Calpheon and have your artisan workers from old Wisdom tree make them into those crates in Calpheon. Then you get on an alt below level 50 (So he doesn't get pvpd?) and transfer all of those crates you made in Calpheon to some city in the desert and sell them at their trade manager?(Do i need to follow the node path, or just go the fastest route? From Calph to Desert city) I need a certain trade level? Sorry for all this, I'm noob and trying to understand the system you're doing while also maximizing it lol. But have I basically got this right? It's missing farming and those later ores in deserts, but I better just learn the basics first.
Im not the content creator. You have this right. Except once you get to the desert switch to main (or master 2 trading ult) use the shrine buff then trade them into manager.
Cool thanks a lot! But what is the shrine buff and the more important thing lol, how do I get all the crates onto my alt and also how does my alt get them to the desert? I read horse stacking somewhere but I don't know what that is. I'm really new.
Don't apologize, you seem to have it all down. You want the alt under level 50 so it can't die because if a horse dies while carrying crates, you lose most of the crates aka billions. I suggest you take the road route and be careful of bandits (don't leave the room while auto pathing). You can take the fastest route, but if a mob kills your horse it is ggwp. I suggest taking a look at my farming video since farming is where almost half the money comes from this guide. Please ask any more questions down below c:
You can use trade wagon now to transfer the crates instead of delivering to valencia yourself. 30,000lt = 1k crates max
I know this is an old video but I have a basic question : when you make crates, the materials have to be in the town where the workbench is, or in the town where the workers are from ?
a few problems i found:
1. it's 11cp to take the dephe route, but only 7 to take the heidel pass route (assuming you're aiming for the nodes you said)
2. zinc nodes are so expensive to get and pretty much by themselves, so a large majority of competitive lifeskillers ignore them entirely in favor of storage cp etc
3. taking arehaza route to gavinya is 2cp instead of the the ivory wasteland route, saving 1cp and allows you to mass produce palm trash crates for trade exp
notes:
1. lodging is probably the best pay2win worth in the game for lifeskills
2. the desert trading buff doesn't work in arehaza/ancado (so stuff needs to be traded to valencia)
3. 250m for calpheon timber crates is a generous estimate and includes processing a few hours daily; assuming all crates in this video give that much (they don't), it's only 1.25b (for 5 types of crates) and you'll essentially be processing all of your waking hours in bdo; also assuming that you spend ~10h processing daily (probably a decent estimate), time spent playing bdo grinding instead (we'll say 1/4 time bdo is spent grinding) is 2.5h daily, 30x for a month = ~1b (1.5b for gyfin), the time is better spent grinding and you'll get levels and skill pts too
don't be disillusioned by the idea of making 2b monthly, because the amount of work it takes makes it essentially the same as doing other tasks, so you should probably go for the most profitable crates and just do those casually for some supplemental income
My man YOU are telling knowledge that "newer" players need to hear. Realistic goals for max outcome. I thought the guide was decent but once he mentioned money estimates I got to thinking about how much real time would be spent processing. And then when he mentioned casually to p2w lodging I felt really distanced by yet another guide. Maybe you should be making one.
titanium/vandium ingot crates are both ~40k w/ 2 nodes ea and costs ~12cp total
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you can do mediah timber crates if you want, ~40k ea w/ 2 nodes ea for ~25cp
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calpheon timber crates are a very poor cp to profit ratio and shouldn't be invested in w/ ~60k ea w/ 3 nodes ea (for each mat req.) for ~50cp-ish? total
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bronze ingot crates are ~30k ea w/ 3 nodes ea (for each mat req.) for ~15cp-ish? total, but ONLY if you already have calpheon timber crate nodes, because it shares connections and makes calpheon timbers less of a bad choice; therefore, calpheon timbers and bronze ingot crating should be established together
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finally, there's steel ingot crates for ~20k ea w/ 2 nodes ea (for each mat req.; limiting factor is coal, so essentially 2 nodes ea), and the cp required depends heavily on your current node network, so it can cost only ~5cp up to ~30
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summary:
** titanium/vanadium is a must for everybody (palm crates too for leveling trading as newb), but everything else is preference and depends either on current node setup to dictate cp cost, or how much time you want to invest shifting items around warehouses
** i would personally do titanium/vanadium, palm, then as i find out how much time i like to spend afk processing and if i want to afk more, add mediah, and then calpheon/bronze if i really have nothing better to do, but likely the cp is better saved not spending it on calpheon/bronze unless you're a vet
** ores are in a really nice place where they can basically be done overnight, but timber is much heavier and has to be done during the day, thus adding crate types will not additively reduce your available time, but exponentially
** realistic money is ~80m/mo for both titanium/vanadium, ~30m/mo? for mediah, ~100m/mo? for calpheon, ~30m/mo? for bronze, and ~120m/mo? for steel (mats are gathered very quickly)
** as you add more crates to your empire, you move towards more trash crate locations and can add those for ez trade exp (don't expect more than 2k in each type of trash crate per month)
** if people make much more money than my suggested rough estimates, it's because they no-life it, and in that case you may as well no-life grinding and you'll be rewarded much more for it
** i don't make guides because i feel 'quickstart experience' isn't a good thing; i could setup infographics on topics that people didn't even realize was viable, but all it does is bring a bandwagon of people flocking towards get-rich-quick schemes and ruin the fun of those actually participating in the activity (ie: sailing being the most profitable money in the game by a factor of 5x over the 2nd quickest method, but that's all i'll say about that)
1) If is cheaper to go the delphe route than it is to take the heidel pass because you are connecting Old Wisdom to Velia to Valencia.
2) Zinc nodes are expensive, but provide materials for brass, with some even giving platinum ore.
3) The reason I opt out of the Arehaza route is the fact that many people are lazy and don't want to go to Valencia to get materials out of bank and process them. For that reason I suggest Ancado lodging and using those workers to gather the matts. This way is more CP intensive, but allows players to send matts to be processed.
I do agree that loding is P2W and the best investment of your money next to pets and weight. I also appreciate you taking your time to comment as you provided some details and options I did not in the video. As for making 2bil a month this is extremely viable for anyone that doesn't mind leaving their game on while they sleep, work, and play other games.
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you don't need to use valencian workers, can still save 1cp by using arehaza route and using ancado workers fine i'd expect
i guess the velia path depends on preference, you save 1cp by doing maple in forest of seclusion AND corn in toscani, but save 1-3 cp by going through heidel pass if you don't have any sub-node investments in either of the two nodes
if sunflower crates accounted for half the income, i would've emphasized it more during the video lol; efficiency-wise (and better for newbs) would be to get those fences up so asap they can make 50% of the profit with ~1/3 the cp requirement; i didn't even know about that (and may do it over some of my node network considering i'm struggling finding available cp)
i process when i sleep/work and grind my free hours, i make 2b a month from afk while im still active grinding. :)
Every time i do the math with the crate calc, making all these crates, stacking, and turning them in with trade buff is only around 20% additional profit from processing everything and tossing it on the market after the 15% tax. so basically youre going through all this to avoid market taxes
For me it seems like waiting for crafting, and breaking my wrist stacking horses is way more than 20% additional effort. I could have the cp used for workshops instead used for farms, which if you grow something like special strawberries is around 10m/day profit if you are able to keep buying seeds off mp
im sure im missing something here, so enlighten me if that is the case.
One thing I don't understand, you have spots for like 8 workers in the velia region but you only get 6 lodgings in velia, do you send workers from Heidel?
Is it possible that some node have been removed? for example "Cedar timber" node in "Oze Pass" and "Trace of Forest" in "Rhua Tree Stub"?
It's not removed. You need to go to the exact location by yourself and speak to the node manager. The node then will revealed on yout world map.
When you do your next crate sell trip could you please record the whole thing and upload that it'll be super helpful, and I mean everything :p
lol we will see, busy with school rn so not really even playing all that much
nice video trollsies and thanks for your contribution to the bdo comunity!
glad to help c:
where do you hoard all the materials? in calpheon? do only the 4 old wisdom tree workers make the crates? and the others gather? do you personally process the plywood/etc. ? do you also send all the material from other towns, to calpheon ?
You have to process your own plywood, workers are a terrible method. You send materials you want to crate to Old Wisdom / Grana. Once the materials are there, you send workers from your city of choice ([Old Wisdom Tree to Calpheon] or [Grana to Grana]) to a workbench. I just use Calpheon to process my materials because having everything in one city simplifies things.
hey trollsies, i have another question, im currently aquiring workers, i took fadus personally, but i have 2 workers with +3 timber crates, 1 crop and 1 ore, is that an issue? shouldnt there be 2 timber since that is our main crate basically?
i had a hard time aquiring these :D energy and silverwise. so i just wanna make sure before i fire 1 timber worker. can you tell me your reasoning or if that even is necessary to change?
Actually you can also buy lodging at shui farm instead of tarif, since it's cheaper. Then you save the 3cp you have to spent in the guard camp to send the heidel worker to mediah
That is a neat idea, but investing in that node ends up costing alot. In my more recent guide, I have a more optimal connection path. Good idea though for players that don't P2W lodging!
how many calpheon do you sell for month? and how much money do you make with it? only calpheon
im trying to use the workers from old wisdom in calpheon, when i go to crafting it tells me not enough resources in storage... when i select a calpheon worker it will craft.... is this a bug?
I have the same problem, anyone else expeiencing this?
tudz8 you have to put the materials into old wisdom but they are crafted at calpheon
Ah, indeed, thank a bunch mate!
Great video but what about lodging/type of workers/preferred worker skills/origin of workers for each node specific? You mentioned the old wisdom tree ones and altinova ore ones. But what about the rest?
i kinda go over that near the end of my most recent video. goblins > humans if can feed every hour. humans > goblins if not. goblins > humans always if travel distance is long.
Hello is this guide can be use in 2019?
Why dont you use the trent / behr work benches for old wisdom tree workers? what am i missing here? distance is quite a bit shorter
Trent and Bheg work shops are all quite pricey when compared to calpheon, and we are only talking about a 3min difference. This is what I do with my 330+ CP, but since this is a budget guide, I felt the CP was better spent elsewhere.
hey Trollsies,thx for the video.It helps a lot.And i do have a question for u.You only have one ore workshop and one timber workshop according to ur video,but there are like 3 or 4 kinds of crates.How to balance that?Thx in advance!!!
how do you get anough workers in velia to get all those nodes plus the beer nodes? how would you feed your workers if you dont have the beer nodes?
Buying bear off market still works if you snipe it! If you have any more questions either reply here or msg on discord or ask on my new twitch! Links in description if interested :D
Buy all lodging in velia (Velia 1 rm 1, 1 rm 2, 1 rm 3), Then lodging in balenos 6-1 (toscani farm). you will get maximum 8 workers total in velia.
What do you make in the mineral and wood crate? Do you manually chop the wood into plank or have a worker craft it.
always manually chop
trolls do you still play? any reccos for new nodes?
Wait so, you have the workers in old wisdom tree. You have trent workers go gather wood, but doesn't that wood go to trent? How do the old wisdom tree workers go get that wood to make into crates?
Workers gather from nodes, you send materials to your main city, chop the wood there, send plywood to old wisdom tree.
Hey, awsome video really helped me getting my stuff ready but i still have 1 problem i dont understand.. where do i "buy" my workers for all the nodes where i farm my coal, wood etc and if its lets say calpheon do i transport all the farmed materials to old wisdom tree how do i handle this + where do i need to buy the lodging? :) thanks in advance
Uhm. I suggest you p2w all of your lodging, that way you save out on a lot of cp.
Even when you p2w lodging you will still need some lodging in the bigger cities like Velia/Calpheon, as well as up to 10 lodging slots to have workers manage farms.
You buy workers from worker managers (icon looks like a pickaxe).
As for how to handle matts, I personally send all unprocessed matts to calpheon and process there. Once the matts are processed I send them to grana/old wisdom.
You do not need to have cities connected to transport goods, but you do need silver in the bank, so just put like 5mil in each city :D
Hey thanks for your answer :) how many workers do u recommend for mainting all farming nodes + can u go with p2w lodging + normall ones but only from calpheon so i dont need to send so much raw mats around?
you can only have 10 workers for farming, so 10
and yes that is fine to do for calph/your main city
Trollsies Can workers run the farms now? I thought a player needs to do all the weeding and planting and harvesting? Thanks
Hey Trollsies, i have a doubt. Once you p2w the lodging spaces, you have to work with your workers until they get the special x3-x2 crate development, when do u know they dont gonna get it so you must fire them? or u can p2w the ability also? thanks :)
at level 1, it is a bit of an annoying and long process, but pays off in the end
no way to p2w that one haha
Trollsies already made it! thanks a lot i understand it :)
Do you use only the 4 artisan workers from old wisdom tree to make all these crates?
yes
I have a problem with this setup. When i want to send my Old wisdom tree worker to calpheon to make the crates it says that i need the base materials in old wisdom tree and not in calpheon ist that true? Cause what i have seen in that video was that you didnt had any mats in old wisdom tree. So i will need to send all mats to old wisdom tree or not?
Yes the mats have to be in old wisdom tree
Thanks for the follow up Trollsies.
Why not send Grana workers to Calph benches? Wouldn't the distance bonus be bigger? Is Wisdom Tree just recommended because of the ease in rolling artisans?
If i'm at 288 CP grinding to 300 should I be using workbenches in Grana and not use Calpheon at all?
I think most people do Grana bench + Trent benches.
I've been stockpiling materials from my empire for 3.5 months and have never traded. I'm getting ready to reconfigure my empire for production and start processing haha
You send Grana workers to Grana and Old Wisdom workers to Calpheon. The ease of rolling +3 workers in Old Wisdom is so good that using trent workers instead is just a waste. Then there's the fact that Old Wisdom workers are cheaper than Trent workers. This is because shops in Calpheon are all 1-2 cp and require no previous buildings, where Trent workshops require sets of buildings to be bought and the buildings themselves are much more expensive. Hope that clarified some things, if not, comment below.
so to get the extra workers in old wisdom tree we have to buy the p2w extra worker slots from kama? and the materials have to be in calpheon?
Matts go to old wisdom tree. Since that is where the workers originate.
Trollsies ty!
I have a big question and that is how you get all your resources to the city you need to build in?
Say you have lots of stuff in Calph, you get an alt and carrie the stuff to old tree?
Im wondering why you do not keep the gathering towns connected so you can ship your timer/ores to 1 city for processing? how do you manage that? (I dont have a VP to connect/disconnect whenever I want)
you can still ship when not connected
Nice Video! Subed alrdy :D Question. I alrdy moved from Heidel to Grana. Got my storage up and so on. Should i add youre thing to my + Grana? So making crates in Grana (2x) & in Calpheon (4x) ? is it worth or should i bench my "2x" in Grana and just take the CP to get more nodes for mats? Alrdy i got 300CP and all are used into storage&nodes&benches/worker. None in farming :S
Unless your Grana workers have +3 Timber, Ore, and Produce then I suggest you also get Old Wisdom Tree too. Personally, I would p2w city storage and lodging so that all of your CP can go towards farms. Farming makes me about 1 BII a month, and with your cp, 700 extra mil would be guaranteed as long as you are a semi active player. However, if you don't process for 8+ hours a day, or want to start start farming at all, then grana is the only major city you need.
Okay thx, 1 more question. U got youre 4 benches, for youre crates. But where do you make youre wood -> plywood or ore -> steel? So u need somewhere more work benches
Hi, great guide, quick question, can you do the quests to get the trade buff on a level 49? as ppl recommend using lower than 50 character so not to get pvp'd
Said this in reply to a similar comment, but you are only using a level 49 alt to transfer the crates from Old Wisdom stable to Valencia stable. Not using that character to turn the crates into the vender.
Yeah I did see that, but wondered if I could do it all on my lifeskiller, but I guess it's not too much effort to swap. I also wondered how many hours you leave the game running a day to make that amount of silver.
I look forward to more videos from you, you've gained a new follower
Why is it that my abandoned iron mine and coastal cliff not have any subnodes? Was this a change or something?
They do, you must invest in them first to see them
great video btw, do you only use the Old Wisdom Tree Papau for making crates or do you also assign them to Trent/upper tree nodes?
Yes, for the 250 cp guide
How do I get my Old Wisdom worker to work in calpheon when all the wood materials are in calpheon? do i ship over the wood to old wisdom tree so my workers can make the crates? i dont get it
when you assign worker from old wisdom tree to work in calpheon. He will walk all the way to calpheon and work in calpheon (you can literally see it going in and out from old wisdom tree to your workshop). After the works is done, He wll bring the product with him back home to old wisdom tree.
After doing this, I can't ever catch up to the production speed. Is this normal? It takes 80 bronze ingot per hour for 8 crates and it takes so long to process enough to have a constant production of crates.
Make sure you 100% success rate for processing. +2 clothes, food, alchemy stone, costume, should get you to 100%. Only way to truly keep up with everything here is processing for 15+ hours a day. Most player wont do this, but this is the most optimal way to spend your cp for afk play. This is only what i do while in college, and not able to grind as much. Most will just focus one 1-2 crates. So Calpehon and Steel. Those are the easiest and best bang for the buck timewise.
Ok I'm running to issue where i just got done building boat so all my cp was tied up in boat making i watched this went to set up but i have to many workers and was based out viella so a lot energy and time spent moving shit around via transport but know im all confused on how many workers should one have with this set up i feel as ive dumped to much of my cp in to lodging i guess is where confused and i also had majority of my worker in hiedal and veila currently at 260 cp
do you recommend this method for trash crating untl artisan 2 ?
Great video, cannot wait for the farm one!!!
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how do you get your materials from valencia to grana to make crates?
when the 300 cp video cames out? also I didn't got it what crates you doing in each town/city?
5/7/18 Monday, and just the crates from old wisdom tree
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How are you consolidating raw materials to process them into what you need for the crates? Are you running between cities every now and then or using the transport system?
I send everything to Calpheon to simplify things. Some prefer to go from city to city, but that is too much of a bother to me.
At Old Wisdom Tree are you saying to buy and fire them if they don't have the crate skill as their first skill and keep doing this until I get one with the crates skill as the first skill
yes it takes awhile, but is worth it in the end
are bravent workers fine for node gathering while i send old wisdom tree workers to make crates in calpheon?
yea they are fine, but you wanna aim for art goblins
I just got an artisan papu worker at old wisdom tree, it has the +3 wheat/veggie but the work speed to calpheon is like 45 minutes
Is that just because it's level 1? Will it get faster once I get it up? 7 minutes seems like a pretty serious drop
Aaron K since the worker has +3 every time it goes it males 4 crates. Some simple math later 45mins/4 crates per run =11.25mins per crate so yeah it can drop to 7 mins per crate once you level it up.
Does the PS4 even have the Old Wisdom Tree???
I have 2 questions do you transport all your resources to caltheon and how do you get all your creats to the trade in
yes, and just put them on horse on under level 50 alt
Good vid, good tips on some nodes out past Valencia I didn't pay attention to (sort of a new player). I also like your sea route for connecting to Ancado, I never thought of that way - I need to get out on my sailboat more often lol.
I also have a couple suggestions for your next video that I hope you don't take offense to!
Cienaga - see EN ah gah (assuming this is derived from Spanish)
Vanadium -- vah NAY dee um
Acacia - uh KAY sha
My pronunciation of words will always be flawled and I refuse to learn! My ignorance will die with me ;)
Hello,
From where did u send workers to valencia nodes?
Thanks
I send them from ancado so that i can use transport, but from valencia works too
Hi Trollsies. I am a complete noob when it comes to trading but your video has inspired me to give it a try. Is it mandatory to hold off until you get the +3 Papu workers? I have spent hours (days) and a ton of energy and $ and have not had any RNG go my way. Should I just start with any 4 Papu and keep trying to get them as I go or is it mandatory to wait until you have the +3s? Thanks in advance and thanks again for the great video.
It is really best to just suck it up and keep rolling. Thats what I had to do even though it killed me inside. I don't suggest you get involved with non +3 Papu's in Old Wisdom. If you really don't wana roll, just use Grana Workers to make Grana Crates, and remove your Calpheon workshops.
hey quick question here! I currently produce calpheon timber boxes in trent shall i stop that and let them produce by an old wisdom tree worker?+ i have 40 cp over when do u release the 300 cp video?
300 CP video should be out near the end of this month, might be slight delay because of college.
Invest into Grana and get a wood workbench, x2 crop factories, and a mineral workbench there. Then send majority of materials (excluding sunflowers) to Grana instead of Old Wisdom.
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hello good sir :) just a quick question :) what workers i should use for the nodes? just goblins or just giants? thanks for the great video btw :)
for 150 workload nodes you want goblins with >150 workspeed to finish them in one tick. for the 200 ones you can use humans, cuz you will need 2 ticks anyways, no matter if you use goblin or human. that's if you are playing alot. if you don't play much you might want to go more for humans/giants cuz they work much longer unattended.
hello trollsies, i have a question
if we using papu worker wrom old wisdom tree for crate, are the crate origin from old wisdom tree?
how about grana? i need more exlplain if me example, want to make the crate from grana
thankyou
Yea crates originate from the worker sent to make them. Technically you could send a Grana worker ALLLL the way to Valencia, and it would be a Valencia Crate. For that reason, we use Grana Workers for Grana Workshops, and Old Wisdom Tree Workers for Calpheon Workshops.
PS: Put materials to make the crate in the storage with the worker, not the storage with the workshop!
whats different for grana origin and old wisdom tree? are the workers from grana hard to get artisan worker?
What's your thoughts on adding Behr Riverhead Tin off of Phoniel's cabin? Only 2 more CP required
Great if you already have 10 plain fences, but if not, then don't bother.
Also, I assume you don't profit from the sunflower crates unless you produce them yourself by farming?
correct
Where do you place your farms for sunflowers? Also do you just harvest them or do you water them as well.
Farming video coming soon :D , but yes i harvest and breed, as well as water and fertilize them.
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i bought 3 artisan workers from old wisdom tree. and i connected all my nodes to calpheon but it doesnt let me create crates. i even have the steel materials. ( coal and melted iron shards) but it doesnt let me start crafting the steel
Mats have to be in kept in OWT storage and OWT has to be connected to Cal
Hi there thanks for this tutorial , can you make another about what you doing later with all those mats, so how you making crate and all the rest up to seling time ? Thanks Buddy keep it good work
So let me get this straight, You get all nodes then send / carry all meterials to Calpheon, Process everything. Then you use Grana / old wisdom workers to craft the crates in Calpheon workshops but the crates will be in Grana / old wisdom then you carry the crates from grana / old wisdom all the way to the desert to a trade manager?
And I have some questions:
Can you use remote collection on your mounts while carrying many crates? won't you lose some if you do?
how many crates should I have before start the journey?
Do I need the Maid Custom for the processing? or is it fine without it?
Still don't understand which crates are trash and which are not.
Do I need to lvl up the trading to master 2 before starting? if so, how?
Old wisdom workers make grana crates. Grana workers make grana crates. Send all crates to your major city to process, or go to each city to process the materials. Send materials to the cities in which the workers reside, not necessarily the city where the workshops are i.e. calpheon.
You cannot remote collect, will lose almost all crates
7.2k is max, but can do any number if in need of silver
Maid costume is best for 2+ hours of afk, but not required if doing something else for afk sleep income
I did not show any trash crates in the video. Trash crates are (Iron ore, copper ore, ash timber). You simply buy the base level of these materials and have workers crate them (no processing done). This is only done to get art 1/m2 trading, for the buff.
You only need art 1 now, but getting master before turning in very valuable crates will help, since you get a higher bargain value the higher your trading level.
Hope that helps!
You saying grana and old sidom tree workers are making the crates but in the video you say to get the workshops in Calpheon? I'm confused.
If you cannot remote collect so how I saw a video of someone taking out lvl 1 horses from stable with thousands of crates and he had more than 4 horses?
I understand the maid outfit is only good for 2+ hours but is this method for trading still efficient without one?
Also you said that you should get a character below lvl 50 to do the trading but I see your doing the trading on your main?
Do your workers process so its completely AFK other than posting on Marketplace? Or do you process by hand? Sorry...im new.
Cody Sutherland never make workers process it is terrible
Question my man. Why do you not recommend the ore and coal nodes around between keplan and calpheon
I only don't recommend the one, because it requires about 9cp for a single coal node, and to me that is not worth it.
Ah okay cool cool of course yeah looking at it now it's a little costly on the CP. right on
How is old wisdom tree workers the way to go? If I used calpheon workers with +3 packing skills I can produce crates twice as fast and I doubt that the distance bonus would be twice as much...
16% more money going from Old Wisdom to Valencia vs Calpheon to Valencia. Also getting +3 packing skills on non Old Wisdom workers, is next to impossible.
Great video man! Gonna try this as soon as I can
your mic is too quiet
Plump Samurai Yea was problem with encoding software, will fix in the next video. Video will include 300-350cp setup but will go over almost everything seen in this video again.
Yeah I can't make out some of the information, he's mumbling :(
for me is ok :)
WHAAAT?
Thanks for the guide, is the next video out yet?
Hey Trollsies, which sort of workers i need to use for the Notes to get timber. Gobs or humans
Both can be used, i prefer goblins since i am on almost 24/7, if not on that often humans are a much better choice for short-medium distances. However, goblins must be used for long distances like from Old Wisdom Tree - Calpheon.
OK. How you use ur workers from Old Wisdom Tree. They tell me, i need my materials in the storage from Old Wisdom Tree that my workers work in Calpheon.
materials in old wisdom, workshops in calpheon
Can you explain why it is better to keep your workshops at lv1 instead of lv2? It seems like you can make 5x more crates at lv2 workshop
same question bro:)
In case your question hasn't been answered in 8 months (Which surely it has) it makes 5 times the crates, but takes 6 times the time.
Stumped, need help. I'm doing a test run with my first worker I've rolled a +3ore Papu in OWT. I sent 500Blackstone and 30Brass I had on hand to OWT. In Calph when I manage the mineral workbench and select my papu and brass ingot crate I get the following message (regardless if i set it to 1 run, 1 repeat or 50k repeat ): "Not enough materials for repetitive task." Open to any suggestions..
** Followup I suppose its just BDO being glitchy, same worker able to make steel ingot crate just fine...
Mb its better to make only ore and timber crates? And invest leftover cp in to nodes? Or im i wrong?
Sunflowers should realistically be priority number one, unless you are not active during 3 seperate 5 hour intervals a day. Since many are not, processing is usually the way to go for most. Leftover CP should be put into farms though, instead of bad nodes.
Can you get the +3 crates skill on the first skill at level 1 just after hiring them?
yes
Really thanks a lot for this video. I wanted starting money with life skill and your video really help me. What you think about Herb crates ? only found 1 old tree wisdom worker with that at this time.
herb sucks, produce only
I don't see Altanova connected to your main route. Is that not needed?
Nope, you go by sea instead. As long as city where the crate's workers originate from is connected to valencia, then there is no reason to connect altinova.
Do you need the mats in old wisdom or calpheon when making the crates?
old wisdom tree
Hello, great video! I got a question: How do I know which workers (from what city) I send to the nodes?
Proximity, but i also included a chart in the description, saying what worker to put where.
Do I have to water my farms or anything other than use the Fertilizer like you mentioned? And how do I see if the Fertilizer is applied correctly?
Velia is the perfect place for farming because you don't need to water your crops. BDO has a sort of climate system that takes factor in cases like this.
Is it still worth selling special sunflower crates? i play in SA each sunflower costs 6.5k, i need 10 of it and 2.7k from black stone powder, 67.7k. Using the somnethinglovely calculator i saw i would get 61k per crat with desert buff, is that wright?
You don't want to buy sunflowers off the market, only seeds, and make sure you are using 100% desert buff. You also have to bargain, and if you do all that, it is definitely still worth it!
Hey what do you prefer? I have all of those nodes after your video but im confused, should i Process and Sell them on MP or Make them Crates and Trade? what do you prefer? thanks..
crates
crate and trade
Hey, why some goblin and some human workers? is it for the luck from the human workers?
wabe visser humans have luck and bigger energy bar so have Tobe attended less frequently
Trollsies okay, thanks, ive been trying to switch my giant and goblin workers for humans and only use goblin for my stuff that they craft
Looking forward to the next video, hope you touch up in more detail on how to manage the farms as well as... where do I actually sit processing? Calpheon?
Also can you please elaborate a little more on where to send workers from on each node?
Going to do farming video soon. Also doesn't matter where you process. Some like to go from city to city, others like to seend mats to one place and process there. Up to you. However I personally chop in calpheon. As for workers, if I didn't say specifically that "x" workers goes "xxxx", then you use the worker from the town/territory closest to it possible with current connections.
Top notch content fam, thanks.
Farm Video: ua-cam.com/video/Bp41plE54eM/v-deo.html
Hello, You said it is 7.5 mins per crate craft time with +3 Papu Workers from Old wisdom tree to Calpheon. Is this true? I am crafting in Trent for Calpheon timber and trash crates using old wisdom workers, but its like 21mins. Although it is only lv6 +3 papu workers.
Thanks in advance.
I said some amount of time like that because I divided the actual craft time (30min) by 4, since thats how long it takes to craft a single crate. Therefor you get, 14-15 crates an hour. I forget the exact math I used, but something similar.
What's the best way to get all the crates from calpheon to valencia? How many do you do at a time
the new transport can help you to send any item from grana to valencia with 2-3 hours,..
@@Gajeboname the "Trade Wagon" which you can select?...its safe? No risk to lose all crates?
In this video, is 7x10 farms included in the 250 cp? If not, how do I manage it? What nodes to give up to get the farms?
yes it does, but it doesnt include lodging or storage
What's the point of getting two white cedar nodes when there is only one Acacia? I see the workload on the Elric Shrine white cedar is much higher than the other two. Wouldn't we just want the acacia from Stonetail Wasteland and the white cedar from Mediah Northen Highlands, and then save 3 contribution by only passing through Elric without getting the gathering node.
If you use one, then you will run out of Acacia since Acacia takes longer to gather and has lower procs.
Do you just fire the papu workers that doesnt have crates +3?
Yes, it is a bit annoying, but worth it in the end. Just sit out there with x50-100 +50 Energy Pots.
Wisdom Wood's 4worker and Talipo's 3workers should go where?
grana workers in grana, old wisdom workers in calpheon
I never leveled Trading. So that means i should save all the crates you mention in your video until i have M2? What are those junk crates that i need to level my trading and how do i make them, I don't see them in the workshop.
Thank you for putting effort in this video, it really helps new/old returning players.
Junk/trash crates refers to something like Iron Ore Crate (e.g. something your workers can gather a lot of). You lose silver through the cost of the iron ore and black stone powder, but it's one of the fastest ways to level trading with minimal effort actually put into trading.
Art 2 is fine to trade in crates now, but if you wana min max you can easily hold out into Master 2 for a bonus 50mil ish on 7k timber bargains.
Junk crates are any timber/ore you find in bulk on the market. Just buy 10k+ and crate it at base level. Once you have 7k of a particular material, then run it over to Anacado. MAKE SURE NODES ARE CONNECTED! The junk crates are just called ash timber crate, or copper ore crate.
Do you mainly grow sunflowers on your farms?
For crates sunflowers are hard to beat. If really into farming you can place 2 of your 10 fences in mediah and do x2 fields of Special Purple Mushroom, but doing this requires 6 times a day gathering to be effective. As well as, two characters with Artisan 1 Farming. A.K.A. way too much work. If you don't have Art 2 trading and want to still do farming, you can just list farming mats that sell within a day to the market. Or sell special sunflower seeds on the market. Market + Value Pack is almost the same monthly profits as trading, but it takes up all your marketplace slots. Slots you might want to use to list other items. For example; Grunil Armor, Yuria Weapons, Foods, Good Feed, Elixirs.
Do you recommend getting Bravant in Trent or not?
if you cannot aford to spread out to old wisdom, then yes
Hi! Just got back into the game after a month break! Would you advice me to do this node setup when i've already have set up Trent with +3 workers?
If you already have +3 trent workers, then just use the trent workshop and use extra cp for farming, and to advance to Grana for more crates. +3 Trent > +3 Wisdom. Msg on discord for a personal setup C:
Trollsies pm'd on discord
can u tell me where i c´get things for the crop fac or what i should produce there?
and where am i getting the minerals form for mineral workbench ? :D nice vid btw^^
minerals from workbench are just ores like iron, copper, and zinc. You melt all the ores into shards, then melt copper + zinc, and iron + coal (base do not process to shards). As for what to use crop factory for, i made a farming video that covers that. Hope i helped.
Is it possible to do this without the P2W lodging?
how much CP is in nodes, and housing itself. i have 253 CP where 98 is housing and 147 in Nodes. Having trouble connecting everything and investing in it all cuz i need the storage?
Adrian Chan I have no cp in storage and only a few cp for lodging (under 10)
What is the best way to get black stone powder? Time and money wise that is.
If you want money efficiency - buy blue gems off the MP and grind them, if you want them fast - grind black stones.
how your woker time is 7min? i got my first worker and it shows that it should take 40min
it is not 7min, it is 30 min / 4 since it makes 4 crates
Would it be fine if i removed one +3 fruit/grain for 1 more +3 timber or ore? or even both fruit for ore/timber? I dont own any farms and i dont like them either. Thanks
you will find it difficult to really use that many ore/timber
How do you get black stone powder? any suggestions? thanks
Jerry Huang buy blue crystals off the market and grind them.
is there some secret to getting +3 crates when i roll these workers? im about 600 energy in and havent rolled a papu artisan with anything good yet.
Sadly no, it is entirely rng based with rolling. It took me about 100mil to get all of mine, just keep rolling and gl!
thanks man. im about 1k energy and 10 mil down with no luck. but im gonna keep going.
I'm new to this game, how do you transfer al those crates to valencia?
walk it over on alt under level 50 to avoid pvp death, just put horse in stable and take back out on your main to turn them in
hey do only the artisan papu give the +3 crate skill?
no, but they have the fastest movement speed, which is important for sending them over to calpheon
nevermind both do
Awesome videos, I'm working on this setup now, I'm just wondering how to get the crates from kama/trent to valencia? Thank you again
horse, on under level 50 alt
@@Trollsies hello, i wanted to ask you should i level trading on said alt? instead of my main who has way more inventory slots and weight?
do i need to level the worker from old wisdom tree to get the +3 crate packing? or do i just keep rolling energy till i get one?
Tre' what i did was to keep hiring artisan workers in old wisdom until i get a +3 wood or ore packaging skill on the first skill of the worker
fullmetal1243 GD yes that is the best way to do it
great thanks a lot
Awesome guide! I’m still trying to figure out my set up. I’m at 255 cp but I believe a majority of my cp is being tied up in storage houses in Heidel. I have no fir nodes or farms and I don’t even think I have old tree discovered yet. I’d love to make this kind of money with this set up. Any help fixing my setup would be appreciated!!
I suggest you either A: Buy storage with pearls, or B: Spread out all of your supplies to different storages like Keplan, Glish, and Olvia. Also just managing your bank should clear up some things, as well as, using alts and storage is great too!
Trollsies yeah I really should clean up my storage. I hoarded mats for alchemy at one time so I’ve got plants galore. So I take it your crafting the crates in old tree and sending them to ancado?
You sound like one particular League of legends coach/streamer called LS
sorry, my English is bad
I have some question
1.250CP include house?(warehouse,dorm room...) i dont spent cash on warehouse,dorm room ,so i worry about it ,i have 306CP
2.where should i hire worker to make tradebox and buy woodworkbench,crop factory?
1) 306 CP should be enough if you don't want to p2w anything at all, just diversify storages so you don't spend so much on warehouses.
2) Hire Papu Workers in Grana, and buy workshops in Grana.
PS: Your english is fine~
okok thank you
I think I have to pay some money.I find my build cost 107CP T.T
Wisdom Wood's 4worker and Talipo's 3workers should go where?
Is it worth it to put energy into worker nodes now?
Hey Trollsies! I wished I’ve discovered your videos earlier but better late than never. Im a new player(2months old) & i havent got the time to actively grinding due to work so im looking for another way to make silvers. I followed your exact nodes on ur previous video but I only got 260 cp and later found out that it wasnt enough after hours of connecting the nodes manually lol feelsbad.
I have a few questions to ask
1. Im currently playing in SEA server & we don’t have Kama out yet, any alternatives to this?
2. Im currently power leveling trading on my lvl 17 alt but I just read somewhere that I would need to be lvl 55 to obtain the desert buff(via quest), is this true? If so, then how would I counter the fact that I could get killed while riding my horse to trade these items?
3. If you dont mind, is there any way to connect with you so i could ask you questions easier.
Many thanks in advance man!
Glad you enjoyed the videos! If you don't have kama yet, you are forced to make sunflower crates in port rat. For ore and timber you just make them in trent. Use beverant amity workers for the 2 ore workshops, and art goblins for the 3 wood workshops. You might have to mess around with nodes a bit. Just remember to get the 3 workshops that you sent trent workers to (Trent, Longleaf, Bher).
I do believe the level 55 req is true, but I am not 100% sure. 55 can be achieved in a day though, so wouldn't be a big deal if not. Best way to transfer crates is to stack them on a horse using a low level character. Once you reach Valencia City, just put horse in the stable, and head over on your main to trade them in.
You can always message me on discord Trollsies#7444, but I get lost in messages sometimes, but always reply here eventually. Discord if i don't reply in a day, i probably never will xD