Another Almost Complete Guide for the Lifeskills! Trading is in such a sad state BUT at least we still have Crate Trading right? Whether or not you're a newer player or just wanting to get more into Crate Trading I hope this helps you out and if I'm missing something let me know! Be sure to leave a like and share this but as always, keep gathering out there!
I am not sure if this change was added to PC or not but on console , Imperial Delivery will give trade exp when turning in fish as well. I power lvled my Trade Exp to Master fishing in Ducraven then Imperial Delivery the fish in Grana. like to point out imperial in the same town u fished in does not seem to give trade exp. Must travel to another town. I hit Master in a few weeks I wanna say around 2 to 3 weeks before LF merge I had 4 Art 1 and 2 Master Traders in less then 2 months. Just wanted to mention it in case u wanted to check it out on PC and see if they changed it there as well. I have been able gain Trade Experience by Imperial Fish Delivery since they removed the trade stuff to rework it. I do Grana & Ducraven because so far this has been where I’ve gotten the most exp. For some reason. If I run to Veila for example my Exp is less but pay on fish is more. Grana & Ducraven are a nice power lvl spot for trade by fishing especially with them being hot spots for the permanent event fish that worth good money for selling and never being exhausted as well as getting the trade lvls up fast for Afk.
@daniellesweeney4863 yeah that's why I mentioned fishing. Trading the green and blue grade fish is great with the npc close by. Eilten is another great place with the Fishing tank able to extend the fish longer than anywhere else in game andnyou can fish in front of the imperial fish npc
U could use the light stone sets one the artifacts all life skill exp instead of the trade exp if u don’t have the trade exp ones I got them and all life skill mastery from imperial fish delivery 2 of each in about month of overnight afk fishing.
Yeah its a shame they removed the Trading Artifacts. +6% using the general lifeskill exp is just not the same as that +10%. I get most my artifacts from just lifeskilling, Training, and oddly enough not a lot from Fishing.
@@TeddyTwighliteI only get it from fishing when I do imperial delivery with the fish. If I go to reg trade manager or just actually from afk fishing it’s self I get barely any I think 1 from afk fishing it’s self then none from regular trade manager, I get about 3 a week from imperial fishing delivery along with light stones every turn in
@daniellesweeney4863 I mainly stick to being active. I'm usually not really lucky with say farming or sailing but hunting and training is my go to lol way too many
So this is the only trading for now? coz I think I saw you say trading is being reworked, did I see this right? I am asking cause I’m currently bartering on the sea and wanted to do some trading on the land but found out the active trading is gone so I’m not really too sure what to do I am a returning player and wanted to get into trading. I’m doing my bartering up, I’m going to get the Cavalar foresee trading eventually, and the frigate for a combat pve and stuff like that, I am an old archage player you see. The current state of black desert is in, this is my new archage lol 😅 yeah you players want to see pay to win. I’m just gonna be completely honest with you this doesn’t even compare to archage... all of you should play that you would know what pay to win really looks like then lol So yeah back to my question is my initial question corrector and do you know how long it’s going to be till they re-add it or have they not announced
So if I do trade crates I have to spend CP on lodging for workers. Workshops to make the crate. And nodes to connect different cities. I remember reading an article that only 17% of trade crate value is created for all this. It seems like the opportunity cost of just having more workers collecting with my cp is easier and possibly more profitable. Is my understanding correct or am I missing something?
You're correct. Trading has a ton of silver and opportunity costs that people very often fail to take into account when reporting outlandish "profit" numbers. Most trading, even after the removal of active trade, ends up being an effective loss of value when you add up the costs.
As region has a lot to do with the money that can be made, the value of the materials fluctuate due to events or updates, your lifeskill level, real monet put into it etc. I was told the only way to make silver without spending is with mob grinding. Lifeskilling is a hobby and not made to make money just done for fun
@teddy yeah I agree I do it for fun as well. Crates just doesn’t seem too appealing to me personally given I can just sell the mats after processing. I do all other life skills but this one I have skipped because there seem to be no profits at all compared to others.
@@anyfourwordphrase42 the crates trading with process help a lot to make money without value pack active, but if you spend month money in value pack, simple use the market, it's more profitable and easy, but the tax from the market without value pack realy kill the profit using the market to sell the items.
There are a few questions I'm left with. I admit that I skimmed some first time through the video, though. Is xp greater with further distance or does distance traveled not matter for xp? What route do you take to get from Valencia to Land of the Morning Light? Also, what did they do with the rumors and buy to sell trading?
i really enjoy trading but they keep killing it, they should let the latest one live on server and upgrade it later once they got new rework but instead of that they just kill it
Well its a good thing they haven't touched any of the Crate Trading lol they really should let us transport more though but still the same as it always is lol
I am genuinely confused. I made crates in Trent, and it's connected all the way to valencia but my crates sell for 1,089 with down arrow 100% value. while the regular sell price is 3,500
I think you're presenting too many options/game mechanics if your target is beginners. When I present trading to someone new to it, I tell them to: 1. Set your workers on ore and timber nodes 2. Process them to t3 mats (plywood/bars) or buy from market 3. Drop them in Valencia for workers to crate 4. Trade wagon to LoML
I just tell newer players that's wasting the money too when you can just mob grind. A LOT faster and easier than wasting time being told 95% of the activity is ass lol besides. Just swipe your card and sell the costumes if you wanna make even faster money easier than all that. I think that's better than losing the silver too on lifeskill activities that's limited by only make this or only that lol 😆
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Another Almost Complete Guide for the Lifeskills! Trading is in such a sad state BUT at least we still have Crate Trading right? Whether or not you're a newer player or just wanting to get more into Crate Trading I hope this helps you out and if I'm missing something let me know! Be sure to leave a like and share this but as always, keep gathering out there!
I am not sure if this change was added to PC or not but on console , Imperial Delivery will give trade exp when turning in fish as well. I power lvled my Trade Exp to Master fishing in Ducraven then Imperial Delivery the fish in Grana. like to point out imperial in the same town u fished in does not seem to give trade exp. Must travel to another town. I hit Master in a few weeks I wanna say around 2 to 3 weeks before LF merge I had 4 Art 1 and 2 Master Traders in less then 2 months. Just wanted to mention it in case u wanted to check it out on PC and see if they changed it there as well. I have been able gain Trade Experience by Imperial Fish Delivery since they removed the trade stuff to rework it. I do Grana & Ducraven because so far this has been where I’ve gotten the most exp. For some reason. If I run to Veila for example my Exp is less but pay on fish is more. Grana & Ducraven are a nice power lvl spot for trade by fishing especially with them being hot spots for the permanent event fish that worth good money for selling and never being exhausted as well as getting the trade lvls up fast for Afk.
@daniellesweeney4863 yeah that's why I mentioned fishing. Trading the green and blue grade fish is great with the npc close by. Eilten is another great place with the Fishing tank able to extend the fish longer than anywhere else in game andnyou can fish in front of the imperial fish npc
Great guide, I didn't know you can do boxes from hunting trophies.
Btw, its also possible to conect valencia and loml through sea
U could use the light stone sets one the artifacts all life skill exp instead of the trade exp if u don’t have the trade exp ones I got them and all life skill mastery from imperial fish delivery 2 of each in about month of overnight afk fishing.
Yeah its a shame they removed the Trading Artifacts. +6% using the general lifeskill exp is just not the same as that +10%. I get most my artifacts from just lifeskilling, Training, and oddly enough not a lot from Fishing.
@@TeddyTwighliteI only get it from fishing when I do imperial delivery with the fish. If I go to reg trade manager or just actually from afk fishing it’s self I get barely any I think 1 from afk fishing it’s self then none from regular trade manager, I get about 3 a week from imperial fishing delivery along with light stones every turn in
@daniellesweeney4863 I mainly stick to being active. I'm usually not really lucky with say farming or sailing but hunting and training is my go to lol way too many
Would you recommend titanium/van crates for high value crates ?
How do you get black stone powder doe for all the stuff to be running 24/7?
Normally can get a LOT from mining the star light veins or when I'm not mining I just buy them for the week
@@TeddyTwighlite Thanks a lot! keep up the great videos! love it and keep gathering out there
hey mate, how did you get two floramos ?
100 season tokens and a lianas quest
I always hear people say that trading is dead, haven't played for like 9 months. Is it better now or it's dead already? thanks.
They removed it from the game so it's only crates now
So this is the only trading for now? coz I think I saw you say trading is being reworked, did I see this right?
I am asking cause I’m currently bartering on the sea and wanted to do some trading on the land but found out the active trading is gone so I’m not really too sure what to do
I am a returning player and wanted to get into trading. I’m doing my bartering up, I’m going to get the Cavalar foresee trading eventually, and the frigate for a combat pve and stuff like that, I am an old archage player you see. The current state of black desert is in, this is my new archage lol 😅 yeah you players want to see pay to win. I’m just gonna be completely honest with you this doesn’t even compare to archage... all of you should play that you would know what pay to win really looks like then lol
So yeah back to my question is my initial question corrector and do you know how long it’s going to be till they re-add it or have they not announced
So if I do trade crates I have to spend CP on lodging for workers. Workshops to make the crate. And nodes to connect different cities. I remember reading an article that only 17% of trade crate value is created for all this. It seems like the opportunity cost of just having more workers collecting with my cp is easier and possibly more profitable. Is my understanding correct or am I missing something?
You're correct. Trading has a ton of silver and opportunity costs that people very often fail to take into account when reporting outlandish "profit" numbers. Most trading, even after the removal of active trade, ends up being an effective loss of value when you add up the costs.
As region has a lot to do with the money that can be made, the value of the materials fluctuate due to events or updates, your lifeskill level, real monet put into it etc.
I was told the only way to make silver without spending is with mob grinding. Lifeskilling is a hobby and not made to make money just done for fun
@teddy yeah I agree I do it for fun as well. Crates just doesn’t seem too appealing to me personally given I can just sell the mats after processing. I do all other life skills but this one I have skipped because there seem to be no profits at all compared to others.
@@anyfourwordphrase42 the crates trading with process help a lot to make money without value pack active, but if you spend month money in value pack, simple use the market, it's more profitable and easy, but the tax from the market without value pack realy kill the profit using the market to sell the items.
I dont understand, if XP doesn't do anything for trading why are we bothering with life xp gear and buffs to level it?
it help getting more money from crates depending on your level
Hi, how do u get your horse on the boat when its packed with trade goods ? Could you make a video of how you do that ? is carrack just to big ?
you cant, thats outdated info
There are a few questions I'm left with. I admit that I skimmed some first time through the video, though. Is xp greater with further distance or does distance traveled not matter for xp? What route do you take to get from Valencia to Land of the Morning Light? Also, what did they do with the rumors and buy to sell trading?
Yes, the further you go the more xp you'll get too and I send mine out using a trade wagon every 6hrs product is done. Active trading was removed
i really enjoy trading but they keep killing it, they should let the latest one live on server and upgrade it later once they got new rework but instead of that they just kill it
Well its a good thing they haven't touched any of the Crate Trading lol they really should let us transport more though but still the same as it always is lol
I just got into this phase of the game after 3 yrs I have got hundreds of thousands of mats thx for this guide
Oh, that should really be fun! I've been processing 100k mats all day to get ready for more trading
are you still processing?xd
@@dustarchive lol so many events I don’t have time it’s a great problem to have too many mats
@dustarchive yep
If i craft my crates on Grana, for example, do i need to connect the nodes to the land of the morning light or that's not necessary?
Yes, if you're gonna trade in the loml you'll need to connect grana to the island
Thus exactly what i was asking at your live brother ❤🎉
I'm glad! If I missed anything or wanna see anything else lemmi know!
Hi! nice video, please, Could someone tell me how often it is updated the Trade/Crates Calculator sheet?
Awesome thanks.
When I traied to transport via wagon said that can't transport trade crats. What am I doing wrong? Thanks for the guide!
You might be trying to use a normal wagon and not the Transport Wagon at the very end of the list
@@TeddyTwighlite Oh thanks you very much! I found my one, last question =D. How to I get more of those wagon?
@andreborges2130 sadly there's only one
@@TeddyTwighlite Thanks man, a lot!
is the exp "bug" still a thing ? and after master 11 can i sell all or do we always need to sell "per Level"
Yep still currently in game
Im at exactly master 11 and looking to level to guru. Is there no reason to sell per level once we are master 11?
@@CannabisMJ mo money mo money mo mooooooneeeeeey
Thank you for the trading guide Teddy! easy for me the watch it again later when I need it Great stuff! 👍👍
No problem! Just getting ALL the major guides remade for the newer players AFTER all the updates we've had
@@TeddyTwighlite I'm not a new player but I still need these stuff. 😂
Aye thats what's up! Never too late to get started or just learning more though I even feel like I can learn more
Hey, is distance affect trading exp too?
I am genuinely confused. I made crates in Trent, and it's connected all the way to valencia but my crates sell for 1,089 with down arrow 100% value. while the regular sell price is 3,500
100% sounds like you're missing a node. Not sure why it would not be valued anything in valencia if the nodes are connected and bargain was applied.
Perfect.
Good one! keep this guides coming!
I think you're presenting too many options/game mechanics if your target is beginners. When I present trading to someone new to it, I tell them to:
1. Set your workers on ore and timber nodes
2. Process them to t3 mats (plywood/bars) or buy from market
3. Drop them in Valencia for workers to crate
4. Trade wagon to LoML
I just tell newer players that's wasting the money too when you can just mob grind.
A LOT faster and easier than wasting time being told 95% of the activity is ass lol besides. Just swipe your card and sell the costumes if you wanna make even faster money easier than all that. I think that's better than losing the silver too on lifeskill activities that's limited by only make this or only that lol 😆