Tristan Harris: The End of Free Choice | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)

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  • Опубліковано 5 лис 2020
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    Technology ethicist Tristan Harris joins Bill to discuss social media's influence on U.S. elections and political polarization.
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  • @AJR-go1it
    @AJR-go1it 3 роки тому +568

    I need this guy to come to my house to explain this to my family.

    • @helene420
      @helene420 3 роки тому +36

      They can just watch the movie "Social Dilemma"

    • @AJR-go1it
      @AJR-go1it 3 роки тому +12

      @@helene420 thanks for letting me know

    • @bluepearl_22
      @bluepearl_22 3 роки тому +8

      Or just send them the link to this video via Facebook

    • @O1OO1O1
      @O1OO1O1 3 роки тому +5

      @@AJR-go1it Also get them to watch "The Great Hack," also on Netflix. Black Mirror works, too, but it's more abstract. "This Panda is dancing" (on UA-cam) is worthwhile, too.
      They could also read the book, 'Brave New World' or watch the anime, Psycho-Pass or Ghost in the Shell. But if you're struggling with people of low intelligence, that may be a hard sell.

    • @dewaynethomas3122
      @dewaynethomas3122 3 роки тому +2

      @@AJR-go1it Every time I turn my head I notice another reason why I wish ANdrew Yang was President. He would come to you house, hand you a thousand dollars, and sit down to watch the movies with you.

  • @jremington123
    @jremington123 3 роки тому +129

    I deleted my social media accounts a year ago. Best decision I've made in a long time.

    • @lupeguadaloupe7686
      @lupeguadaloupe7686 3 роки тому +11

      No you have not. You have a UA-cam account. One of the biggest algorithm pushers. That has you now thinking you have deleted your social media account. LOL

    • @evanlofranco
      @evanlofranco 3 роки тому

      @@lupeguadaloupe7686 eh

    • @hhiippiittyy
      @hhiippiittyy 3 роки тому

      All I kept was my UA-cam account, and I have to be mindful to keep some distance from it.

    • @Brian-zf8jl
      @Brian-zf8jl 3 роки тому

      Same. Turned my mind to mush.

  • @charlottetracy3970
    @charlottetracy3970 3 роки тому +321

    I don't do facebook, twitter, etc and still have a good life. wow!

    • @mhmrules
      @mhmrules 3 роки тому +5

      Right on! :D

    • @sheilag2231
      @sheilag2231 3 роки тому +31

      You just do UA-cam

    • @71three5ohscrambler8
      @71three5ohscrambler8 3 роки тому +1

      I like to think I have better things to do.

    • @ssjenforcer191191191
      @ssjenforcer191191191 3 роки тому +2

      But...who do you share how good your life is with?

    • @floras2030
      @floras2030 3 роки тому +3

      I still pop in FB 2-3 times a week to lecture people 😆 Always end up writing essays for 2 hours...

  • @bloodytalon235
    @bloodytalon235 3 роки тому +163

    it basically re-wires your brain without you being consciously aware of it

    • @nunureds837
      @nunureds837 3 роки тому +4

      Basically, what tv ads do (just at a much faster pace)

    • @andrewnewman9563
      @andrewnewman9563 3 роки тому +9

      An algorithm will find your bias and keep confirming it. Did you like that lie, here's more. Eventually you end up only getting "news" you want to hear as opposed to hearing news you might not like but what you actually need to make informed decisions.

    • @rvantong
      @rvantong 3 роки тому +2

      @Restore Sanity You are commenting on UA-cam, which operates on an algorithm. It's actually one of the biggest offenders in rewiring people's brains

    • @nunureds837
      @nunureds837 3 роки тому +1

      @@rvantong and is, also, a social media app 🤪

    • @andrewnewman9563
      @andrewnewman9563 3 роки тому

      @Steven bent1 There is nothing sinister about it. They started with good intentions but couldn't foresee that people end up in information boxes of their own creation. That type of "news" is like a weather forecaster always predicting sunny skies. Pointless.

  •  3 роки тому +117

    The best guest in a while.

    • @doko3000
      @doko3000 3 роки тому

      Love what he said. He seems to know what he's talking about.

  • @schwindsichtigaderechte5293
    @schwindsichtigaderechte5293 3 роки тому +32

    This is highly relevant information that should be shown and discussed in schools.

  • @jendacey6822
    @jendacey6822 3 роки тому +7

    This was one of the best shows you've done in YEARS Bill, congrats. Such important conversations and uncensored conversations, so satisfying to watch.

  • @Stardust414
    @Stardust414 3 роки тому +10

    "10yrs into a mind warp" is the best explanation I've heard to date.
    When I quit social media back in 2011, people acted as if I was a sociopath. Then I forced myself back on in 2017 bc I started a new business that struggled to take off. I was told by everyone around me that I couldn't be successful without multiple social platforms. I tried but ultimately failed bc I wasn't willing to play the social media game-actively posting & engaging with followers you how to convert to customers. When you run a sales biz without a brick & mortar store, the verdict has long been out = social media is a requirement, whether you like it or not 🤷🏼‍♀️

    • @StephenDix
      @StephenDix Рік тому +1

      I won't repeat what you already know but you really nailed it, here. Props for prioritizing your mind over material things.

  • @ChrisSusanto
    @ChrisSusanto 3 роки тому +52

    I have to watch the documentary now. Seems mind-blowing

    • @lordbuddybear
      @lordbuddybear 3 роки тому +2

      Do it. The personifying the algorithm part gets a little cheesy, but the explanations are great and important

    • @rossadamdixon
      @rossadamdixon 3 роки тому +1

      @@gl22222 I think it's more for people who can't understand how an algorithm works. Like a visual clue. But it was a little cheesy. Overall it's a must watch especially with your phone's usage screen open.

    • @TheNefastor
      @TheNefastor 3 роки тому +2

      OK, but *after* you delete your Facebook account. And your Twitter account for good measure.

    • @finerio
      @finerio 3 роки тому

      so the algorithm hasn't suggested it to you yet?!

    • @pierzing.glint1sh76
      @pierzing.glint1sh76 3 роки тому +1

      Well, you'll watch it now and thats why he's here promoting his works.

  • @alkggkla5643
    @alkggkla5643 3 роки тому +259

    It's so easy to dump FaceWaste and its cohorts.... you'll be happy you did! Earth has the coolest stuff, and you're missing it!

    • @ArizonaWillful
      @ArizonaWillful 3 роки тому +12

      Sometimes authors or speakers I like have Facebook pages, so I keep a Facebook presence. But the joke is on Facebook. My name is fake, my picture is fake and my current location is not actually Timbuktu. I post nothing. Yet I get tons of friend requests! I used a male model's photo so I get lots of friend requests from gay guys and teenage girls. Hilarious.

    • @Matty80822
      @Matty80822 3 роки тому +4

      but where would I post pictures of that cool stuff? isn't the point of cool stuff to take a picture of it to complete our pokedex

    • @TheBdavis2195
      @TheBdavis2195 3 роки тому +10

      I deleted FB 6 months ago and I’m surprised I had one for as long as I did. Such a negative time waster!

    • @TheGorillawarrior
      @TheGorillawarrior 3 роки тому +2

      UA-cam is the biggest influencer of them all. We may have made it off of Facebook, but we’re still being manipulated by the UA-cam algorithm.

    • @tomb613
      @tomb613 3 роки тому +3

      I dumped facewaste 2 years ago and I don't miss it at all. If my actual friends want to communicate with me they can call or text or meet in public! Imagine that!

  • @grokeffer6226
    @grokeffer6226 3 роки тому +104

    I never found the "Idea" of Facebook appealing. Letting people know where I've been, where I'm going, what I've been doing, seems like a violation of my personal security protocol. I also don't want to feel obligated to pass out thumbs up to strangers over pictures of their lunch or whatever, or have content "suggested" to me.

    • @ImTheJoker4u
      @ImTheJoker4u 3 роки тому +6

      THIS.
      Having a UA-cam (google) account is bad enough 😕

    • @nonyabizness.original
      @nonyabizness.original 3 роки тому +11

      yup. i hated when answering machines came out back in the day- suddenly, you KNEW that THEY knew who called and you were then ~obligated~ to call back.
      then cordless phones, and you couldn't claim you were out in the yard and missed the call.
      then it was caller ID, and if you didn't answer the caller would think you saw who it was and ignored them.
      cell phones? horrendous- you could never just go away by yourself and feel free from answering to anyone. this is so bad now, so many people got so butthurt about unanswered calls, that it has become almost RUDE to actually CALL anyone- the protocol is to use your ~phone~ to TEXT the people you feel like talking to.
      and facebook? once, way back when it first started, i made a FAKE account using all FAKE info to talk to my adult foster kid. facebook started bombarding me with emails, asking if i knew -this- person. i had to ponder the vaguely familiar names they gave me- holy crap, i went to high school with that guy THIRTY YEARS AGO.
      soooo creepy, i deleted the account almost immediately but the emails kept coming, kept getting more obscurely, accurately stalker-ish. they came for literally YEARS, probably still come to that email account that i ended up abandoning to make it stop.
      years ago already, my kid showed me how you can see a photo of a crowd on facebook, hover over the faces, and google puts a name to the faces. i was nsver more creeped out!
      actually, yes i was. the first time i 'google earth'ed my house and saw my car and my kid's car in our driveway.
      and the first time a friend said "watch this", hit gps on his phone, and google zoomed in to the room in my house where we were. and then he walked around the house with the google dot following us from room to room.
      na, this tech is the panopticon. and people are too enticed by shiny objects to care.

    • @2wheelman
      @2wheelman 3 роки тому +6

      yo talk about such weak egos, selfies 🤳 , . people trying to get that sense of am ok please do like me . zombies i would say. peace of mind really is out of facebook.

    • @bdtol3142
      @bdtol3142 3 роки тому +4

      I am the same way. I want to talk to my family, phone. I want to make an announcement, email. Facebook is a waste of time.

    • @nonyabizness.original
      @nonyabizness.original 3 роки тому +2

      @TheDTownsend1976 you said exactly what i always say. people look at me like i'm nuts when i say that humans are nowhere near being evolved enough, emotionally or cognititvely, to deal with the tech we have in our hands. nowhere NEAR.

  • @vincentvalen72
    @vincentvalen72 3 роки тому

    Aww they cut out the balloon pop. Bill falling out of his chair was friggin hilarious xD

  • @emerraldx
    @emerraldx 3 роки тому +74

    I love Tristan and Jaron so much. We have to listen to our canary’s in the coal mine and along with Andrew Yang these guys are so ahead of their time but we could build a different world if we were a bit more proactive and got ahead of this stuff for a change. 💕🧢💕 #UBISavesLives

    • @O1OO1O1
      @O1OO1O1 3 роки тому +5

      Tristan has a great interview with Yang over at Yang Speaks, his podcast.

    • @jjjjjj192
      @jjjjjj192 3 роки тому

      Tristan exaggerates the hell out of Facebook.

    • @O1OO1O1
      @O1OO1O1 3 роки тому

      @@jjjjjj192 How so?

    • @jjjjjj192
      @jjjjjj192 3 роки тому +1

      @@O1OO1O1 He's over sensationalizing Facebook's automated programing or "algorithms". Notifications are instantaneous, they're not held back and released right when a user is about cease interacting with Facebook like he Tristan claims in the interview, so that alone is proof he's a BS artist. He's just trying to make a buck and seem smart. He's a boozo, pseudo intellectual.

    • @O1OO1O1
      @O1OO1O1 3 роки тому

      @@jjjjjj192 Where did he say notifications are released when a user stops interacting?

  • @imisstoronto3121
    @imisstoronto3121 3 роки тому +109

    Do people really use Facebook for news? I use it to post pictures of my lunch. And that's about it.

    • @jamesbittle2138
      @jamesbittle2138 3 роки тому +16

      Older people do. And the "news" that they read is a complete shit-show.

    • @imisstoronto3121
      @imisstoronto3121 3 роки тому +9

      @@jamesbittle2138 I'm 65 so not exactly young. Still wouldnt get news from FB!!!

    • @jamesbittle2138
      @jamesbittle2138 3 роки тому +11

      @@imisstoronto3121 You are a wise person for sure. I have quite a few relatives (mostly Trump supporters) that read a bunch of crazy stuff on Facebook and they believe it to be true.

    • @sheilag2231
      @sheilag2231 3 роки тому +1

      Facebook in general terms, social media. You are on UA-cam how many times does the Ben Shapiro show comes up on your feed? If none, are you receiving all sources of “news” or just one side? Using news in general terms as Bill Maher and Ben Shapiro are not the actual news.

    • @imisstoronto3121
      @imisstoronto3121 3 роки тому +3

      @@sheilag2231 Ben Shapiro never comes up, and Bill Maher does because I am subscribed and I like the show. But I know its a comedy show, just like I knew The Daily Show with John STewart was a comedy show, not real news.

  • @sp0228
    @sp0228 3 роки тому +1

    Deleted FB in 2016. No Twitter. No IG. No chains, only freedom

  • @studio3js196
    @studio3js196 3 роки тому +120

    One main point he drives home in the film is being sympathetic and trying to seek conversation with people who have vastly different outlooks, primarily influenced by the algorithm effect, but man.....it’s hard when you have to try to deal with people who are positive about theories such as flat earth

    • @scetchmonkey007
      @scetchmonkey007 3 роки тому +4

      Yeah thats the main reason I love that guy, and why I spend time on UA-cam comments section just trying to figure out how the other side works. Because I used to be on that side.

    • @atgmai
      @atgmai 3 роки тому +10

      I'm just saying that's not at all feasible when there are clearly cults with bad ideas out there. FIat earthers, the Westboro Baptist Church, etc. are either completely without evidence or intolerant.
      I would agree wholeheartedly if he said Trump and Biden supporters should share a conversation, but we still have to denounce these ideologies when we see it.

    • @igunashiodesu
      @igunashiodesu 3 роки тому

      @@scetchmonkey007 you used to be a flat earther?

    • @scetchmonkey007
      @scetchmonkey007 3 роки тому +3

      @@igunashiodesu no I used to be an Obama supporter

    • @jonathandrayer9942
      @jonathandrayer9942 3 роки тому +4

      Its difficult if you're goal is to convince them that they're wrong. I don't think the point is to gain an advantage so you can change someones mind (aka manipulate them), but rather to gain understanding of why they have that perspective. The flat earth example is on the fringe, but most political topics are not on the fringe, yet folks struggle to conceive how someone could have a different perspective than themselves.

  • @thekhan517
    @thekhan517 3 роки тому +6

    He (Tristan Harris) is absolutely correct. The problem is, there is no coming back from it.

  • @Dr.TJ1
    @Dr.TJ1 3 роки тому +17

    I never did Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram because those are putting information out. But I do watch UA-cam videos because that is taking information in. And my self esteem isn’t based on how many Facebook friends I have. I’ve always thought that people who were desperate to have a lot of Facebook friends had low self esteem.

    • @Canuckmom128
      @Canuckmom128 3 роки тому +1

      @Dr. TJ Me too, as a conscious decision, because Zuckerberg and his "machine" have made it crystal clear they don't give a flying fig about anyone's privacy. It's all about the $$$. It's too bad, because I can't access some of the photos of my Granddaughter on Insta, but I'm willing to take a haircut on that, to maintain a little of my private info. Like you, I have been on UA-cam since they started, because I like the History Docs, and even that has me wrapped up in Marketing ploys and Algorithms 😱

    • @Dr.TJ1
      @Dr.TJ1 3 роки тому +2

      @@thegags
      I know they have data and try to direct me to videos similar to what I've already watched, but that's OK. I watch a lot of science and humor videos. I was just directed to this one, which I hurt my side laughing at: ua-cam.com/video/uXyWVenIiHg/v-deo.html

    • @MoonlightingJames
      @MoonlightingJames 3 роки тому

      @@Dr.TJ1 Thank you for that.

    • @loobell3236
      @loobell3236 3 роки тому

      If you carry a smart phone, you have social media. It is just that it is your government that is following you.

    • @Dr.TJ1
      @Dr.TJ1 3 роки тому

      @@loobell3236
      Yes, but our government isn't directing advertising or political content to us based on what we watch or say. And they never even listen to our phone conversations unless they get a reliable tip of some illegal activity. As much as many people might hate the collection of our phone calls, the Supreme Court has already ruled that it's permissible. So put that one in the category of there's nothing you can do about it so don't worry about it.

  • @jpole411
    @jpole411 3 роки тому +2

    Thank God Bill is here to explain how the reality fed to him by the algorithm is the right one.

  • @amberforsey5187
    @amberforsey5187 3 роки тому

    I don't have a Facebook account or any other social media (other than UA-cam) and my life goes on just fine. I wish this for everyone!

  • @TonyP_Yes-its-Me
    @TonyP_Yes-its-Me 3 роки тому +24

    People today: Everything I believe is right. Everything you believe is wrong, and u should be punished for it.

  • @lisatwitchell403
    @lisatwitchell403 3 роки тому +14

    There's a way to deal with social media. I don't have Facebook, Twitter, or any of the others. I do use email and messaging to stay in contact with my friends and share photos, many of my friends disagree with my political views but I still care for them very much.
    I watch many of documentaries about history and prehistory on UA-cam, even after years of studying history, to understand what people have done to join together in the past and what people have done to destroy each other's lives in the past. This gives me a very broad viewpoint of how everything works.
    One of the things I used to teach the lecturers I trained and who went out and presented Technical Training to other people is that they weren't teaching a subject, they were teaching people. Having taught all over the United States and in several other countries, from Germany to the Far East, I found that all people have some basic things in common but that any attempt to change human nature is absolutely fruitless. Invading a country to change its culture and make it our friend can't possibly work, It's against human nature. I've never seen how you could make friends with people by shooting at them.
    I watch several different news shows and read articles from various newspapers to compare what they say and try to figure out what the facts are. NPR does the best job in this country. I read the BBC headlines every morning to find out what's happening in the world that news organizations in this country are not reporting. I really want to know how the world wags and what the United States' position is in the world and what it should be. I've been a staunch conservative all my life and I'm 72 years old. The conservative I was when I was 21 and a life member of the NRA is no longer what a conservative is by today's use of the term. I'm against most everything the NRA is doing. I believe in serious background checks before buying a firearm of any kind, a registration of all the firearms in the United States in an easily searchable database, and that all firearms owners should have a license to own a firearm and on the back of the license a list of the firearms they have proved they can use safely. How could you possibly have a well regulated militia without that information and the check on people's abilities? To the people that are worried about the Second Amendment, I say the government already knows what firearms you've purchased and what ammunition you've purchased registering your firearms won't make make any difference about you being able to hide them from the government. Please note, you can't bring small firearms to a fight against armed helicopters, fighter planes, or tanks. That idea has been lost in the past. The wild west as we used to see it in movies never existed. It was a difficult, nasty time with little justice. After two tours in Vietnam, I know what it is like to be shot at and to see someone else shot. I've stood shoulder-to-shoulder with a man that got sprayed in the chest with shrapnel from a mortar and all that happened to me was a shower of gravel. I came through because I stayed alert, knew what was going on, and was lucky many times. It used to give me a survival guilt complex but I no longer feel guilty that I was lucky and survived. What we did in Vietnam was wrong but I'm proud that I served my country, saved many lives, and stopped several war crimes.
    It's time the government stayed out of people's personal lives, taxed religious organizations because they are like other organizations and the Constitution states that the government and religion should stay separate. Not taxing religious organizations is it against what is stated in the Constitution. What our government is supposed to be doing is providing us a safe place to live, with good infrastructure, and making us a solid place in the world. By a solid place in the world, I don't mean the attitude that we own the world and should tell everybody else what to do. We should pull together for what we, as a people, need and additionally what the world, as a larger group of people, need. That doesn't make me a liberal that makes me a real conservative.
    PS Being an informed citizen takes hard work and expending time.

  • @stevebeutelspacher1157
    @stevebeutelspacher1157 3 роки тому +1

    Interesting stuff and things will no doubt get worse as social media is not going to go away. Having stated that, being aware of what goes on behind the scenes does help. Thank you Bill and Tristan

  • @carolgraham8564
    @carolgraham8564 3 роки тому +1

    I am glad that I got off Facebook over a year ago. I don't use any other social media

  • @MrTonyBarrett
    @MrTonyBarrett 3 роки тому +3

    This month marks 2 years since I removed Facebook from my life. I might miss out on some social occasions and events in my friends' lives sometimes as a result, but overall, I do feel much less stressed out all the time. It's also fascinating (and kind of disheartening), when one is not constantly staring down at their phone, to notice just how many other people ARE.

  • @dutchvonrichardson
    @dutchvonrichardson 3 роки тому +18

    Deleted my Facebook months ago but I still post on this UA-cam so they still got me, goddang those internet’s.

    • @ericdaniel323
      @ericdaniel323 3 роки тому

      I left Facebook 3 years ago but here I am posting on youtube right alongside you...

    • @Cory_Springer
      @Cory_Springer 3 роки тому

      Same. Deleted FB and Twitter in '17, only have a UA-cam account still.
      Don't miss it one bit.

    • @rebeccah.6403
      @rebeccah.6403 3 роки тому

      Oh my gosh! Same here! 😒😒😒

    • @khalmasonart
      @khalmasonart 3 роки тому

      By the way, React is the most popular front-end web framework in the world right now. Many popular websites you see are built using ReactJS, most mobile apps are build with ReactNative. And React is an open-source project from Facebook. So as long as you are on the internet, you are using Facebook's technology.

  • @franceducharme4804
    @franceducharme4804 3 роки тому

    Well said...

  • @algorithmsandblues
    @algorithmsandblues 3 роки тому +1

    Love what Harris is doing. Definitely eye opening. Just deleting Facebook may not be the way, but I think awareness and modifying your habits help put everything in perspective.

  • @NewMessage
    @NewMessage 3 роки тому +106

    I wonder how many viewers were sent here by the algorithm.

    • @ivanazurre
      @ivanazurre 3 роки тому

      🤭🤯😂

    • @sheilag2231
      @sheilag2231 3 роки тому +5

      Not the Alex Jones fans.

    • @kerimcandrew4628
      @kerimcandrew4628 3 роки тому +1

      😆 😆😆😆

    • @DrMwenya
      @DrMwenya 3 роки тому +4

      All of us 😂

    • @albertn7468
      @albertn7468 3 роки тому +1

      I just saw you in the comments on a completely different video. I don't remember what video tho

  • @j.ericsandoval566
    @j.ericsandoval566 3 роки тому +4

    I’m getting so sick of social media for these very reasons. My life was more productive and interesting before Facebook and Twitter.

    • @Odima16
      @Odima16 3 роки тому

      You can quit them! I believe in you! Uninstall the apps from your phone, block the website on your PC, change your password to something you can't remember, etc. That's how I kicked my habit.

  • @alwaysuseless
    @alwaysuseless 3 роки тому +2

    Getting your news from social media is like getting your dinner from a garbage can.

  • @johndernberger1961
    @johndernberger1961 3 роки тому +1

    Just remember, it works both ways! Social media and the algorithms are extremely mind bending. Glad to see Bill willing to discuss this matter.

  • @SolaceEasy
    @SolaceEasy 3 роки тому +22

    An aside regarding conspiracy theories: You aren't just paranoid if they really are coming after you.

    • @wuyev
      @wuyev 3 роки тому +3

      yea i dont agree with the conspiracy theory part, There is nothing wrong with seeing different sides and thats all conspiracy theories are different perspectives. Its more dangerous to block conspiracy theories cause then you cant investigate or have a discussion which makes the theory even if it wrong way stronger in peoples mind. Also its staggering how many consp theories are rooted in truth.

    • @dewaynethomas3122
      @dewaynethomas3122 3 роки тому

      Is someone coming after you?

    • @dewaynethomas3122
      @dewaynethomas3122 3 роки тому

      @dumb genius But alot of the shit shouldn't come from the President or Fox News, it's brainwashing,m and you should know the difference.

    • @SolaceEasy
      @SolaceEasy 3 роки тому

      @@dewaynethomas3122 Outside your bedroom late tonight.

    • @dewaynethomas3122
      @dewaynethomas3122 3 роки тому

      @@SolaceEasy You mean under my bed, nom nom

  • @Ontonaut
    @Ontonaut 3 роки тому +17

    "The best predictor of whether or not you'll believe in a conspiracy theory is if I've already got you to believe in one."
    Like Russiagate

    • @ChrisHarperKC
      @ChrisHarperKC 3 роки тому +1

      This.

    • @ForNoOne1
      @ForNoOne1 3 роки тому +6

      I think conservatives don't understand what "Russiagate" actually is.
      Intelligence agencies around the world have evidence beyond any doubt that Russia did in fact use cyber warfare and bot farms to aid Donald Trump. They did hack the DNC for emails. People in Trump's campaign like Roger Stone were in fact contacted by Russian agents and were tipped off about things like Hillary's email dump. All of these things are provably true.
      I don't think most liberals believe Trump personally conspired with Putin, but he did seem to know he was being aided by them and essentially welcomed the help, which is in itself unethical and corrupt. It's one of the reasons he has been so lenient and servile towards Russia during the last 4 years.

    • @Ontonaut
      @Ontonaut 3 роки тому +2

      @@ForNoOne1 "Intelligence agencies around the world have evidence beyond any doubt that Russia did in fact use cyber warfare and bot farms to aid Donald Trump. They did hack the DNC for emails."
      I have heard these assertions for years and have listened to the evidence for the claims. I just don't see how the evidence is supportive, except in the most superficial, propagandistic manner. Any Russian interference was certainly minor compared to the way the U.S. has interfered for decades in domestic policy of various "sovereign" nations throughout the world.
      I'm not a conservative and I don't get much information from conservative media. I used to be a nightly Rachel Maddow viewer until I watched the Russiagate accusations collapse. I have learned about the deficiencies of that conspiracy theory through independent journalists and progressive voices such as Aaron Mate, Max Blumenthal, Glenn Greenwald, Kyle Kulinski, Katie Halper, Matt Taibi, and Krystal Ball. Voices independent from corporate executives less interested in reporting facts and more interested in manufacturing consent.
      A very informative watch is the Jimmy Dore video: Final Nail in Russiagate Coffin: CrowdStrike Admits "No Evidence
      ua-cam.com/video/WRoTGlQ4JMA/v-deo.html

    • @sburn1919
      @sburn1919 3 роки тому +1

      Fikash lmao they absolutely do not. What they found were some tiny clickfarms trying to sell internet ad space, spending relative peanuts to produce memes to draw internet traffic. The memes targeted all political persuasions. Why the fuck would a Russian agent try and go through roger stone lmao

  • @Headhunter425USMC
    @Headhunter425USMC 3 роки тому

    Fascinating conversation. This needs to be shared.

  • @kevinm.1565
    @kevinm.1565 3 роки тому

    Sharing this to social media.👍🤔

  • @cajunchampagne2469
    @cajunchampagne2469 3 роки тому +3

    Well before the release of this video, I made the decision to deactivate my FB permanently, and I must say, i am happier because of it.
    I love the quote from Thoreau, goes something like:
    "Rather than love, faith, fame, or even fairness...give me truth."

  • @ivanazurre
    @ivanazurre 3 роки тому +33

    When you hear or see news don’t take it as true immediately. Do your research from reputable sources and then make your decisions. I have ran into a lot of stuff online that sounds true because the person telling it believes in it wholeheartedly. Usually it ends with me researching and going 🤦🏽‍♀️

    • @lacedemonians
      @lacedemonians 3 роки тому

      You sound like Glenn Beck!

    • @kirawelty
      @kirawelty 3 роки тому +1

      It's called critically thinking, shame it's not taught in school anymore.
      "how do you tell what source is reputable?", really? Are people that ignorant?
      Aunt Sally is not reputable, ABC, maybe, AP, probably, the guy with end of the world signs, not reputable.
      It's not rocket science.

    • @alexcastillo621
      @alexcastillo621 3 роки тому

      There is not a reputable source any more and if it is they been silenced by facebook and big networks

  • @FaltFerngoth
    @FaltFerngoth 3 роки тому +1

    Social media...give it up by not starting up.

  • @shrimpie202
    @shrimpie202 3 роки тому

    His film is a must see. I want to preserve old photos then I’m out

  • @Fahrenheit4051
    @Fahrenheit4051 3 роки тому +13

    "Nobody voted on it" - Yes we did. We voted with our clicks. We could end this if we wanted to.

  • @root_pierre
    @root_pierre 3 роки тому +30

    Not even Bill can say Tristan properly lol ☺️.
    ...Quitting Facebook was hard but I feel more sane years later

  • @rrxbjr
    @rrxbjr 3 роки тому

    I dont do facebook or twitter. Thank you Bill Maher and guest for so clearly stating why i keep away from it.

  • @allynesommer9145
    @allynesommer9145 3 роки тому

    Dearest Mr. Maher, what a good show. Loved it!!!!! I'm so glad that you are back in the studio. So glad that there are 2 more shows this year. And every week I really look forward to seeing you. Most times I'm up 4 am in the morning , current location Germany, just to watch your show. Take care brother....

  • @avijitklodh
    @avijitklodh 3 роки тому +7

    If you guys havent watched the social dilemma I implore you to do so. The future of our world depends on it

    • @lupeguadaloupe7686
      @lupeguadaloupe7686 3 роки тому

      Yet, here you are, on UA-cam.

    • @avijitklodh
      @avijitklodh 3 роки тому +1

      @@lupeguadaloupe7686 lmao I can see the irony. It's a work in progress

  • @Ghost_PM11
    @Ghost_PM11 3 роки тому +39

    The algorithm is the closest thing to a god we have ever created, it's intangible, it's personal, it "cares" about us, it knows what is best for us, it's everywhere, and it works in mysterious ways.

    • @RaveYoda
      @RaveYoda 3 роки тому +2

      Well...it's actually code that's 1s and 0s on a HDD or SSD. Still liked your comment.

    • @Misses-Hippy
      @Misses-Hippy 3 роки тому +2

      @@RaveYoda Thanks for the reality check.

    • @RaveYoda
      @RaveYoda 3 роки тому +2

      @@Misses-Hippy XD Bwahahahahaha

    • @Malt454
      @Malt454 3 роки тому +2

      And its effects are becoming strong evidence that we need to live without it - it's making us sick.

    • @glenkirkup6861
      @glenkirkup6861 3 роки тому +3

      @@RaveYoda The UA-cam algorithm is over one million lines of code. Whether or not it includes machine learning, any developer will tell you that a piece of software that large will work in mysterious ways and even the least superstitious will be tempted to sometimes pray that it works before deploying it to production :)

  • @sandeepdas3991
    @sandeepdas3991 3 роки тому +1

    I like the folded hand greeting. Namaste everyone. Have a great day !

  • @Section5_CdnIntelService
    @Section5_CdnIntelService 3 роки тому +1

    I have a cellphone, but I only have text and talk, no data. I use my laptop to surf the net but ignore most of the crap, limiting myself to history and entertainment. I also deleted Facebook about two years ago.

  • @erikaallard3820
    @erikaallard3820 3 роки тому +89

    Get off Facebook and use more than one source - solved

    • @TBONESIDEOFLIFE
      @TBONESIDEOFLIFE 3 роки тому +3

      Best comment here.

    • @jazzpabla8693
      @jazzpabla8693 3 роки тому +2

      Well said

    • @artemius8442
      @artemius8442 3 роки тому +6

      "Use more than one source" ... And also remember to check that your sources don't use the same initial source. :P

    • @rajanjayesh1886
      @rajanjayesh1886 3 роки тому +3

      Basically get off any social network cuz most of them are an echo chambers.

    • @robm6726
      @robm6726 3 роки тому +2

      Also check that the source is reputable. Or follow a source that has done that research themselves and proven themselves to be reputable.

  • @lohancindy5442
    @lohancindy5442 3 роки тому +3

    You can’t even comment on news articles anymore. That’s where the real exchange of ideas happened. Similar to these comment on UA-cam

    • @ThatDonna
      @ThatDonna 3 роки тому

      Oh, that's an excellent point. That was to censor non-Dem conversation during this election cycle. Too many readers disagreeing with the writers.

  • @LydiLouiKats
    @LydiLouiKats 3 роки тому

    Absolutely riveting! Enjoyed this! 👍🏆👏

  • @certainperson9869
    @certainperson9869 3 роки тому

    Everyone should watch this documentary,

  • @PhonciblePBonehimself
    @PhonciblePBonehimself 3 роки тому +10

    I deleted myself on facebook, Twitter etc. you can too. There is nothing I miss

    • @khalmasonart
      @khalmasonart 3 роки тому

      By the way, React is the most popular front-end web framework in the world right now. Many popular websites you see are built using ReactJS, most mobile apps are build with ReactNative. And React is an open-source project from Facebook. So as long as you are on the internet, you are using Facebook's technology. And I might add that React is a superior front-end framework as of today and developers love it. So good luck with cancelling Facebook. And Facebook has so many open-source projects opensource.facebook.com/ that you never know when some website you visit are "accidentally" using its technology.

    • @yoshidinono8095
      @yoshidinono8095 3 роки тому

      Delete your UA-cam app.

  • @OriginalRAB
    @OriginalRAB 3 роки тому +8

    The thing is social media is not doing anything that print was not doing decades ago. Give the people what they want. The problem is the almighty algorithm is really good at it and I dont see how they can put the genie back in the bottle.

    • @ranndino
      @ranndino 3 роки тому +3

      Yeah, it's way more targeted and ever present now so the effects are much stronger. It's kind of like the old media being heroin and this being fentanyl.

    • @patrickdoyle9304
      @patrickdoyle9304 3 роки тому

      Wrong. It's much harder to publish paper that isn't true. Social media is too big to control

  • @WheelerRickRambles
    @WheelerRickRambles 3 роки тому

    This info is crazy, mad!

  • @jasonpuskar209412
    @jasonpuskar209412 3 роки тому +1

    Been debating whether to deactivate my Facebook or not. This confirmed that.

  • @jonathancunningham4159
    @jonathancunningham4159 3 роки тому +56

    The onus is really on the individual though. All these algorithms are doing is giving people what they want. It's your own fault if you believe everything that is fed to you.

    • @sheilag2231
      @sheilag2231 3 роки тому +7

      How will you know what else is out there if the algorithm doesn’t show you?

    • @root_pierre
      @root_pierre 3 роки тому +3

      It's called positive bias and our brains are wired to just go with the flow instead of critical thinking (for most)

    • @amandahector9074
      @amandahector9074 3 роки тому +2

      I honestly thought this doc was garbage. There are a few articles that really go in on this guy and the doc. It's pretty accurate. They used a doc about how websites thst use algorithms to manipulate you to manipulate you into believing what they want instead. The best partis that Netflix uses these methods as well and that's where the doc is. Its all garbage. Use your own brain.

    • @jonathancunningham4159
      @jonathancunningham4159 3 роки тому +4

      @Psychic Sidekick The mental health effects are not caused by the algorithms themselves. The effects come from how people USE social media.
      People don't realize that there are controls that you can use to fine tune what you see. I think the main problem is most people are not really tech savvy.

    • @stanprogressstanyang
      @stanprogressstanyang 3 роки тому +3

      if a civil war breaks out bc of this, and even people who never used fb before end up getting hurt, then i bet you won't still be singing this "it's your own fault" tune. this effects *everyone*.

  • @rosetta20
    @rosetta20 3 роки тому +6

    The issue here is that Bill tries to equate this to only a "right" thing. He knows what he is doing. The algo's get everyone and skew everyone's perspective.

    • @TheGRACEBIBLECOLLEGE
      @TheGRACEBIBLECOLLEGE 3 роки тому

      I look forward to seeing Tristan accepted onto Fox News for an interview.

  • @j-me6317
    @j-me6317 3 роки тому

    Nothing sums up humanity’s greatest current challenge better than this premise.

  • @fumblinF0e
    @fumblinF0e 3 роки тому

    I deleted Facebook & Twitter 4 years ago, I have zero regrets. What I have I missed out on? NOTHING!!

  • @j.p.radley4013
    @j.p.radley4013 3 роки тому +3

    Make it so minor’s data can’t be collected, bought, sold or traded.

  • @briancc2100
    @briancc2100 3 роки тому +3

    I dleted Facebook a year ago and have not missed it

    • @bluepearl_22
      @bluepearl_22 3 роки тому

      Twitter is just as poisonous, perhaps even more, and instagram is owned by Facebook.

    • @khalmasonart
      @khalmasonart 3 роки тому

      By the way, React is the most popular front-end web framework in the world right now. Many popular websites you see are built using ReactJS, most mobile apps are build with ReactNative. And React is an open-source project from Facebook. So as long as you are on the internet, you are using Facebook's technology. And I might add that React is a superior front-end framework as of today and developers love it. So good luck with cancelling Facebook from your life. You literally have to disappear off the internet permanently. And Facebook has so many open-source projects opensource.facebook.com/ that you never know when some website you visit are "accidentally" using its technology.

  • @pdreidenbach
    @pdreidenbach 3 роки тому

    The algorithm is making me watch Bill Maher!

  • @techn1kal1ty
    @techn1kal1ty 3 роки тому

    Why did you cut out the balloon explosion? That was fantastic!

  • @melrowe9345
    @melrowe9345 3 роки тому +3

    should we go back to three channels?

  • @jegca
    @jegca 3 роки тому +6

    Blaming Facebook is like blaming the phone company instead of the scammer that called you.

    • @dafl00
      @dafl00 3 роки тому

      The phone company will not actively seek out a partnership with the scammer and give them your information. (at least not the pre-www phone company)

    • @deankruse2891
      @deankruse2891 3 роки тому +2

      no i don't htink you listened to anything he said. Facebook themselves are the ones manipulating their product to promote engagement.

    • @jegca
      @jegca 3 роки тому

      @@deankruse2891 Facebook doesn’t produce content.

    • @jegca
      @jegca 3 роки тому

      You all don’t think in the old days, the nightly evening news wasn’t doing the same thing by defining what they believed were the top news stories for you to consume? Or the newspapers that determined what would be the lead stories you should be reading? Come on don’t be so naive.

    • @deankruse2891
      @deankruse2891 3 роки тому

      @@jegca no they don't. They promote the sensational and click bait shut people post. They give people a platform to post pure propaganda and falsehoods and not only are they able to share it, it thrives on Facebook. Its a cesspool and it is designed to be that way.

  • @flowerdoyle3749
    @flowerdoyle3749 3 роки тому

    Just watched The Social Dilemma on Netflix........what a mess we've created and on a global scale. Greed really has no bounds..... I think I need to hug a tree!

  • @kateuhler7803
    @kateuhler7803 3 роки тому

    I stopped using all social media altogethet recently.

  • @wolfjarlgrbane5771
    @wolfjarlgrbane5771 3 роки тому +4

    We just need to respect the counters, there are still our military members votes being or waiting to be counted. We need to leave them be because harassing them slows the count.

  • @chadwindham2979
    @chadwindham2979 3 роки тому +3

    wow, just when you thought maher was about to be reasonable his tds flairs up

  • @derekross7979
    @derekross7979 3 роки тому

    The loss of self control has created this social media dilemma!

  • @skywatcherextraordinaire7014
    @skywatcherextraordinaire7014 3 роки тому +2

    it sounds fascinating i gotta see this documentary.

  • @user-account-not-found
    @user-account-not-found 3 роки тому +7

    It's really funny seeing people who have never written a line of code talk about algorithms. Like it's something mystical lol.

    • @ericminch
      @ericminch 3 роки тому +2

      Well it is, in a way, isn't it? I mean, when I'm coding, what I do is I issue spells, and when these spells are executed by the computer, they turn into something real. It is as close to magic (apart from the fake pretend magic that professional magicians do) as can be.

  • @Dichtsau
    @Dichtsau 3 роки тому +4

    "nobody wants to give up the phone, i can't imagine that" - he said.
    _giving up the phone_ - i did, 15 years ago when i saw all the shit starting.

    • @MaryAnnDunham
      @MaryAnnDunham 3 роки тому +1

      I have my phone, but for calling people I never have it in my face all day long It's put away in my bag, not part of my body

  • @icecatti
    @icecatti 3 роки тому

    this guy's awesome

  • @AdopteeHonesty
    @AdopteeHonesty 3 роки тому +1

    Damn, we're screwed. I'm gonna go share this on Facebook. Oh, the irony...

  • @DBMe33
    @DBMe33 3 роки тому +3

    Its so lovely when ppl come on **social media** talking about how getting off of **social media** was the **best** thing that they ever did. Apparently better than getting married. Landing their dream job. Holding their newborn for the first time... This kind of loop de loop perception based, reality assessing behavior is a big part of why we are in the shtty situation that we are in, as it is. 🤨

    • @maulwurf62
      @maulwurf62 3 роки тому +1

      HBO is social media?

    • @alanfriesen9837
      @alanfriesen9837 3 роки тому

      How many of us ever landed their dream job?

  • @robertperricone9363
    @robertperricone9363 3 роки тому +9

    Im not on Facebook/Instagram or any other social media platform...i cant be bothered w/other peoples bullshit frankly..My friends are present in real time.

    • @lisam8105
      @lisam8105 3 роки тому +1

      Amen!!!

    • @sheilag2231
      @sheilag2231 3 роки тому +1

      Yet are are on UA-cam in the comments section. He is saying Facebook in general term of social media.

    • @BXBZ88
      @BXBZ88 3 роки тому

      But yet you are here .......

    • @robertperricone9363
      @robertperricone9363 3 роки тому

      Im not sharing details of my life on UA-cam..there is a difference as i dont have a profile etc here.

    • @BXBZ88
      @BXBZ88 3 роки тому

      @@robertperricone9363 Yet you show your name.... And your picture.

  • @jwd0808
    @jwd0808 3 роки тому +1

    Many people I know do not use and never have used FB or Twitter. Some prefer to look at the merits of each candidate, do some research, and make informed decisions. I know I am in the minority, but at least I know my choice is completely free.

  • @DarthSparhawk
    @DarthSparhawk 3 роки тому

    So true

  • @0BIWANCANNOLI
    @0BIWANCANNOLI 3 роки тому +3

    To be fair no liberal has accepted trumps presidency the last 4 years either so I guess it’ll be like that

    • @janwysocki340
      @janwysocki340 3 роки тому

      they never will. Conservatism is to complicated for them. What values to conserve if they don't have any !!!

    • @jamesbittle2138
      @jamesbittle2138 3 роки тому +2

      @@janwysocki340 Correction: Conservatism is too complicated for them. I am not sure that the average Trump supporter even knows what Conservatism means in the context that you are referring to.

    • @tomfeucht4995
      @tomfeucht4995 3 роки тому

      @@janwysocki340, I understand conservatism quite well. What I don't understand is why anybody would support a racist/rapist to be the president of ANY country, let alone this one. Especially after being shown for four years what a criminal and incompetent ass he really is.

    • @0BIWANCANNOLI
      @0BIWANCANNOLI 3 роки тому

      @@tomfeucht4995 let me make sure I have this right, so for you Trump, who has several allegations of sexual assault with absolutely no evidence is a rapist, but Biden who has several cases and one with some pretty decent evidence is not, and trump who did more for minorities in this country than any modern us president

    • @0BIWANCANNOLI
      @0BIWANCANNOLI 3 роки тому

      Is racist but Biden who was a pro segregation advocate is not racist

  • @prestontucker1687
    @prestontucker1687 3 роки тому +3

    The algorithm is biased & prejudiced.

  • @scaredyfish
    @scaredyfish 3 роки тому +1

    Manufacturing Consent, with improved efficiency

  • @Jdawg323
    @Jdawg323 3 роки тому

    Great interview! Faith restored after that Al Franken abomination last week

  • @dancewithethan
    @dancewithethan 3 роки тому +3

    Yep, Russia, Russia BS for the last four years is a good example .

  • @diegovillaneda9788
    @diegovillaneda9788 3 роки тому +4

    Biden 2020 babbby

  • @DystopianUtopia8
    @DystopianUtopia8 3 роки тому

    This subject needs to be a major part of the national news media.

  • @AyeCarumba221
    @AyeCarumba221 3 роки тому

    Thank you, Bill. I hope you will continue to fight for good. There truly are sinister forces at work now. We need your voice.

  • @wiilamsteinkamp7905
    @wiilamsteinkamp7905 3 роки тому +1

    My wife and I noticed this about Google ten years ago. Also the speaking of something, then it showing up on feeds the next day.

    • @ojyochan
      @ojyochan 3 роки тому

      This is something that creeped me out about facebook.

  • @user-ke4kz3in9j
    @user-ke4kz3in9j 3 роки тому

    Social media has actually done a great service in revealing who in my circles are complete idiots.

  • @opertinicy
    @opertinicy 3 роки тому +1

    deleted my facebook profile and sold my shares in FB in 2018..this segment makes me glad i did

  • @johnsmith2221
    @johnsmith2221 3 роки тому

    People want affirmation, not information.

  • @AstroSquid
    @AstroSquid 3 роки тому

    this explains why i'm watching this, how do I get out of the maze.

  • @briandenton145
    @briandenton145 3 роки тому

    For retention purposes, you'd think FB would stop sending duplicate, incessant notifications. I get the same notification every day and I can't make them stop.

  • @oikawasmilkbread2382
    @oikawasmilkbread2382 3 роки тому +1

    In as much as the social media or whoever wants to influence people it is still up to the individual.

    • @Hannahhessler
      @Hannahhessler 3 роки тому

      There's plenty of evidence for God if you're paying attention. He is "the most manifest of the manifest and the most hidden of the hidden."

  • @lordbuddybear
    @lordbuddybear 3 роки тому +1

    This guy is so good at explaining and finding metaphors

  • @discosecret6363
    @discosecret6363 3 роки тому

    I left social media over 3 years ago. It was the best decision, I ever made.

  • @mieliav
    @mieliav 3 роки тому

    thank you for some insight into what I spared myself by staying out of the social media etc.

  • @tigermotive2378
    @tigermotive2378 2 роки тому

    I deleted all social media 3 years ago, life is bliss without the garbage.

  • @edrowland4614
    @edrowland4614 3 роки тому +1

    I do not use Facebook, Twitter or any other social media that creates an alternate reality to manipulate you. I like reality much more than social media. I create my really and not social media.