Underground might've of had a 'alright' story but as a kid back then playing this game had taught me the difference between 'desire' and 'passion'. Desire is something everyone wants to 'have' like fortune and fame but it's something that isn't equal to passion. Eric and 'you' ( the player ) is great example of this. Although Eric was talented in skateboarding he wasn't as nearly as passionate as You ( the player ) in fact multiple times its shown Eric envy You for what you can do and is capable of. Eric wants nothing but what he desires and will do anything to get a hold of it. As for 'You' ( the player ) only wants to go further in your passion (by learning new things to improve) and not be so quick to be jealous of others competitively (like how Eric is quick to take away competition) rather ( the player ) is filled with passion enjoys such competition and enjoys the ride wether you lose or not. Skateboarding not bout fame or fortune or winning or losing. Its about the adrenaline of feeling free and alive.
@@efx616 I make art (still pretty rusty atm) it's an old flipnote drawing I made 2 years back instagram.com/p/B76ytNMD47U/?igshid=r2hmr1saddwx I also post my art on my UA-cam channel (only 1 animation rn)
@@scottmemelord6130 it might sound dumb but this game showed me the difference as well. It’s also why I still skate to this day, if I didn’t have skateboarding I don’t know what kind of terrible things I would have done.
"Skating in Philly is so much better than skating anywhere else. People always ask me hum hurr ham hunnn mmm um mnunn d-d-d-d-g" Man's got a real way with words.
Running Shine is the perfect example of what old internet humor and game reviews used to be. People like to brush it off as "outdated" or "didn't age well," but they get that impression because a majority of the time they didn't grow up on pre-2014 internet and were surrounded by entertainment that was much tamer. People really miss out on the charm and wit that comes from this style of video out of this view point of "ew old" because they don't know why it was so well liked and widespread in the first place. I feel like that's why everything has to be so watered-down, which is why everything seems so childish and shallow nowadays.
You've legitimately went from someone I never knew existed to my favorite reviewer ever in the course of an hour from watching your three reviews. Keep up the good work man.
It's still surprising to me how positively these videos have been received. Makes me excited since I'm currently doing the video editing for the next one.
Hey dude, I've watched this over and over since I first saw it a year ago. It's fantastic. It actually inspired me to pick up a skateboard again after a decade of not riding. You're great.
This review has aged so well. The addition of you guys composing your own music, plus the whole DIY feeling of the entire production, it's hard to describe but I guess the only way to put it is that this video is feels precision-engineered to be enjoyed on a rainy day. No joke is too long and obnoxious, and the pace is kept up nicely with great snappy editing. The script is worthy of praise too. This is the ideal review in my eyes. You even composed and sung your own punk song for a NOFX joke! BADASS Do you have any tips for composing/scriptwriting for this type of thing? I've been inspired here.
I’m not sure how good my advice would be since I’m not sure what kind of tone you’re wanting to have for what you’re making. I can say though that you describe what we want to capture with these videos perfectly. I’ve always liked UA-cam as a way for people to make content that’s authentic to themselves. I obviously like video games a lot so I focus the channel on that, but I also love music and comedy, and the coziness of old PBS documentaries. I don’t consciously think to make something that would be nice to watch on a rainy day, but I know exactly what you’re talking about, and it’s one of my favorite vibes a piece of art can give me, so the desire to make something that’ll convey that feeling is going to manifest in some way, even if it’s not planned out. Despite how long these videos take to make they’re not very calculated, we write down a script obviously, but I change a lot when recording since Tropics is usually there to give me feedback, and sometimes suggest ways to expand bits. When things are being edited in audio and video, there’s a lot of things cut out to make things flow better, but also stuff will be added on in the editing stage too to enhance a mood or create space, or create a joke by timing an image or video to show up on screen. It means that these videos have decisions made on the spot, allowing them to take on their own life as it gets developed more, and I try to lean into that as best I can. I love simple editing a lot. For whatever reason I would watch a lot of “rant” videos when I was a kid in 2009 where random people would talk about 4kids or Jesus Camp for 10 minutes. Most of these were just guys with their webcams but some of them would scroll through images instead, nume26 probably did this the best out of all of them since she would use the scrolling images to tell secondary jokes which I’m still a fan of. The DIY aspect to the videos is actually something I care about a lot. I like presenting these videos as if they’re completely amateur, because when somebody takes a risk with their time to watch it through and gets something out of it, it creates a fun feeling that you’ve discovered something unknown and fun. It’s a part of the reason that I hope the channel can stay niche, because that effect is kind of lost when a channel has 50k+ subs. Despite the simplicity in editing, I always put in a lot of work in editing to make sure that cuts happen right when they should, I abuse one feature in premiere that lets me go frame by frame and hear the audio at any moment, and use this to make sure that cuts happen just at the right time, it helps an insane amount when I’m trying to figure out the right time to cut from a joke. I don’t think there’s really a formula for it, but you get a sense for what feels right after a bit. You’d be surprised how being only couple frames off can completely kill a delivery. I read through and record some of these jokes many times, and I’ll edit them stone-faced, but I know when the edit is good because I’ll end up cracking up at it all over again. That’s the real key to anything creative. A lot of people will say to just “be yourself”, but I think that’s much easier said than done. People generally want to hide themselves even when they can be anonymous online. A lot of people overthink things, instead of doing what is funny to them and seeing it through, they focus on what other people think is funny, instead of doing what they like, they do what others like, or see what other youtubers are doing, and try to copy their style in hopes of finding success. You might get some fans with this, but they will be liking an inauthentic persona that doesn’t reflect who you really are, and over time you’ll find that what was suppose to be a fun hobby has turned into something miserable, the only benefit is an emotional shield from harsh criticism, it’s easier to handwave that away when the content they’re criticizing doesn’t reflect who you are in any way, but I don’t think the tradeoff is worth it at all in the long run. Obviously not everybody is going to like running shine videos, but the people who do are going to get more out of it since I think an audience can tell when something is made out of fun and good spirits. Best I can say is do what you want, hear people out when they have feedback (even if it’s rude or insulting, sometimes there can still be something useful they’re saying), try not to focus on numbers. If you mean composing as in music, I can try to give some advice on that but I’d need to write up another comment tomorrow or later. Happy you like the NoFX parody!
@@RunningShine fuck man. I did not expect all this. It makes me SO relieved to see that you guys WANT to stay niche. Oh that is so relieving. The views on that YIIK video scared me a bit. Not because I don't want that kind of success for you guys or anything, I just know a ton of youtubers who had that vibe we're discussing and lost it due to weekly uploads, chasing trends, sponsors, or other tacky stuff. It's so nice to see the attitude you display here. Your writing and editing tips are very helpful too. I do love that premiere feature, it is so fucking nice. And yeah, I'm not big on numbers. I would prefer to also stay niche like this, just making videos on things I'm super passionate about, trying to stay mostly positive and engaging to a small core audience. But the whole composing your own music thing is what really drew me in here. I've never tried any kind of compositions before, short of playing some mediocre riffs on a terrible electric guitar sloppily. Never anything digital though. I'm assuming you use fruityloops or pro tools for sequencing and record your instruments live? Idk if I could afford the monthly cost, but like I said I'm completely clueless here. I don't have a Mac so GarageBand is out the window. I hear you about being genuine too. It's tough but definitely the more fun way to make this kind of stuff. Sorry for the overly long response, I'm just stunned at how much effort you put into your response. I've been trying to change this PFP forever and its still the super old lame one, so sorry for that. And I apologize if asking for composition advice is too hefty or loaded of a question for a youtube comments thread. I saw you did some work for the METAGAME soundtrack and that's exactly the type of thing I can get down with composing. Just not sure where to start really. I really appreciate your long and thought out response though man. I'll be eagerly anticipating you seeing this and as always excited for your next video, I think I saw a post about it being ocarina. Hype shit
@@classclown6ya I think it’s great you played some guitar previously even if you’re not very confident with how good you played. It’s a really nice instrument because it’s very “relative” if that makes sense. If you learn to play a song in G, changing it to A is a matter of sliding up 2 notes on the guitar scale, so the muscle memory is always the same, this makes it great for learning songs because I feel it makes you focus more on the movement between chords and how the harmony is working much faster compared to other instruments where you spend more time at first focusing on hitting the notes themselves. It’s not perfect though, piano definitely has it beat for composing in my eyes since you can easily play base in one hand and do the chords/melody in the other. Back in the day Mac was definitely king of music production, but I think that’s changed a lot in recent years. I have a much easier time working with VST’s on windows, for instance. And AISO4ALL allows for high quality low latency on windows soundcards that works just as good as Core Audio on Mac. If you’re using an audio interface for recording though, it’s a non issue since you’re going to be using its driver instead of the sound card in the computer. I’ve used several different music programs through the years. Most of what was done on Metagame was back when I worked in Cubase, but recently I’ve been spending more time in Ableton, and have gotten pretty obsessed with tracking programs like Renoise and Deflemask. Fruityloops, Ableton, and Cubase all basically function the same though, you compose with a sequencer where you can add tracks and Midi sequences to compose the music, and run those tracks through effects like reverb and EQ. With Midi tracks you can assign them to playback with VST instruments that give you sounds for all kinds of instruments like pianos, synthesizers, drums, etc. They’re all very solid choices, so if you want to learn, just pick the one that works the best in terms of price or the one that looks the nicest to use. If you want something cheap, Reaper is a fantastic digital audio workstation similar to Cubase and Ableton, but has a much more affordable license and it’s a one time payment where you don’t need to deal with usb keys. It’s not the prettiest program but it’s insanely flexible and works near perfectly. A lot of the stuff I did for Metagame was more ambient, and I remember for those tracks I leaned a lot on maj7 and min7 chords and didn’t mess around with dominants because that would create a sense of harmonic movement towards some kind of resolution as to give the tracks a bit of a floaty and unresolving harmony. I also used a lot of pedal tones, which is where you play a single note in the bass, and only change the chords. I was really into the Warp Records IDM stuff like μ-ziq and Boards of Canada, so I was kind of chasing that sound a bit. Nowadays I’m more into jazz and pop music so I like dominant chords now and more traditional harmony, although I still like revisiting that floatier style of composing every once in awhile. I really recommend learning songs that you like on piano or guitar and trying to understand what’s happening with the chords and bass. I notice a lot of people get really into music theory, but don’t apply that knowledge to learning songs, which I think is the best way to learn, it’s a lot easier to internalize theory when you can see it being used practically in songs you like, it allows you to find patterns and directions you can take harmony through experience and creates a kind of “harmonic library” you can pull from. I recommend learning analog synthesizers too since I was all about them on that soundtrack. I really like the Juno-60 and SH-101 VST clones done by Tal software, and often I would just turn the cutoff down to get a very lower mid range tone and use that for chords. Nowadays I’m really into FM synthesis and am actually thinking of doing a video showing how to program it and the great sounds it can produce since it’s a bit unintuitive to use. Also I don’t think there’s anything wrong with your PFP, nothing wrong with repping Cowboy Bebop in my eyes. Hopefully I was able to help!
@@RunningShine you very much were able to help man, thank you. I will come back to this thread if I have any issues with what you layed out, thanks man!
Holy shit that NOFX thing was a bit?? Sounded so fitting I honestly thought it's just a funny thing they did, no wonder I couldn't find it for the life of me. Fuckin' bravo man, that's equally really cool and side-splittingly hilarious.
This is still probably the best review on the channel even today, not to take away from every other video as they're just as good, especially with the length and effort put into them, but something about this one is so rewatchable to me. The pacing, the delivery and timing on jokes, and the poignant critiques that bring up good points throughout really make it such an excellent review, for a skateboarding game of all things. I'm glad that your style for game reviewing was pretty much perfected with this video as I've probably watched this one about 30 times in the last 2 months or so.
Keep it up, man. I've been wanting to see a good Plinkett-style reviewer of video games, and this channel is the closest thing and more. It's not just a derivative of that editing style, but the jokes and analysis of both are on-fucking-point. Also I doubt anyone minds the length, it was perfectly entertaining throughout.
This game is straight up how I got into skating, not to mention how its soundtrack influenced my music taste as a kid. I’ll never forget speedrunning the game one day and flipping out after my character smashed Eric’s jaw with his elbow like that at the end, cathartic as fuck after all his shit. Fantastic video man!
The story mode was so good for THUG1. I remember being blown away by the fact I could create my own skater as a kid and have him interact with the story
I meant to post this comment a while ago, but I think that this video is seriously perfect. Everything transitions into itself so perfectly that you would think it was engineered from a team of scientists. I honestly think that this video is paced better than anything else on your channel, and the music it just the cherry on top. Fantastic job.
Sadly have super limited experience with those games. I'd love picking them up though if I buy a ps3 at some point. I can imagine me doing a video if I get real into them.
I feel like they're on par with each other but in different ways. These two are basically my favorite reviewers I cant think of others that come close.
Absolutely fantastic work man. This is one of the best videos I've seen in a while. Lots of people struggle to find a balance between having meaningful discussion on a game and having good comedy in a video, and you're walking that tight rope exceptionally well. Keep it up, I'm looking forward to more videos!
This is probably the best video on a Tony Hawk game I've ever seen. I must have watched it at least 10 times, and it manages to entertain and remain enjoyable every single time.
This is the only game I have ever 100% completed and I love the work you put into this video. I watch it at least once a month since I've discovered it. I pray for your every success.
Man, I just got THUG2 on PC to eventually play THUG PRO but damn does this make me miss RS. Truly an inspiration for the vertically integrated, collaborative videos that make everything they use: footage, music, everything.
28:00 THANK YOU! Thank you, a game that acknowledges that everything has its limits and after a point it's okay to use violence! I am so tired of stories, be they in games or TV shows or books or movies or whatever, where the antagonist just keeps doing horrible shit, but the protagonist needs to be shown as a good person by never getting physical. I think people forget that the protagonist already *has* the high ground because they're not the one that started shit, and forget what the teachers told you in elementary school, ethically speaking it absolutely matters whether you act or are re-acting to what someone else has done. The player here gives Eric 3 chances throughout the game and Eric screws him over three times, the final one leading the player character to jail. It's perfectly reasonable to get physical at that point and actually vent the anger that the character _and_ player are feeling in a satisfying way. If you turn the other cheek and the guy uses the opportunity to pants you, you knee him in the chin and kick him in the chest while he's down. So, yeah. Nice to see some media that realizes that it's not only unrealistic but also unhealthy to send a message of absolute eternal pacifism.
(Necroposting from a comment of 1 year ago, c r i n g e I know) A bit of a minor point here, while I don't disagree with EVERYTHING in this comment, you lost me when you said it's "unhealthy" to not use violence against an asshole, while I don't have a problem seeing one getting punched, this kind of implies that violence is the ONLY way to deal with anger and that not doing so is "bad". But thing is, there are other (and arguably better) ways of dealing with anger than lashing it out against someone, especially because if you punch someone, you even have the risk of getting into a fight and get hurt! TLDR: Violence can be "acceptable" but that doesn't mean it's always the best and most ideal option.
@@on-zm8sg I never said that violence is always the right choice or only the right choice. As I brought up multiple times, it is the fact that the character has wronged the protagonist many, many times throughout the game. Wronged them in ways with serious repercussions including jail time. I am not at all advocating for slugging someone because they cut in front of you in line at the grocery store. What I am advocating for is an end to the message that violence is _never_ the answer. That is what I believe is unhealthy, the notion that it is _never_ okay under _any_ circumstance to use violence. I one hundred percent am not trying to say that people should make violence their first resort.
@@Shenaldrac I actually didn't mean to say that, but that's because I should've specified that it was also on the situation where the violence is "acceptable", so yeah, my mystake. Even in the context of the story, as satisfying as it is to see the protagonist punching Eric, it's not as if it would be "unhealthy" if the protagonist just left him alone which was my point, since as I said, there are other ways of dealing with anger. What WOULD be unhealthy, was if Eric suddenly decided to use violence first and the protagonist didn't, and the game treats the protagonist as being right for doing so.
The first Underground was great, except for the horrible vehicle controls. Underground 2 basically marked the end of Tony Hawk, while American Wasteland was kinda OK, nothing good came out after Underground 1 and they should've just ended the series there.
Dude this was awesome, put a lot of insight into what to appreciate about a game and level design too and your humors brilliant. Made me a bit nostalgic for that game too, I'd spend hours just sort of exploring around areas in that game. Honestly I forgot it even existed at this point but it was nice to remember. Although I'm hella hungry though so I might spend that $5 on 7/11... although actually I didn't have the $5 in the first place so I'm probably just gonna go to sleep so I can wake up to my shitty alarm clock for work. Keep on making sick stuff though man I can't wait for more and am probably gonna start marathoning some of your other stuff. Peace!
This is one of the best video game reviews I've ever seen lol now I gotta see footage of the fighting in the golfing game you mentioned, I thought that was just a joke in South Park at the expense of Tiger Woods poor life decisions.
I had tech decks, tech deck dudes, the hand skateboards sold at FAO schwarz, I was a spoiled skater kid in a way despite my parents not having a lot of money. Best I ever did was almost land ollieing down an 8 stair. I kick flipped a 4 stair successfully if you think that's better.
Is youtube algoritm working? I was interested in tonyhawk underground watched two vids, and then jfj showed us your channel and here it is! Now i know about the game that i never played! Amasing
8:37 *CORRECTION* You _CAN_ use skitching as a combo, by either manualing or running into the car then jumping into a manual or back into running after.
16:57 dude, thank you. I forgot about People Under The Stairs! Holy shit They picked some great groups to rep LA and West Coast. Whoever did the soundtrack for this game was actually very locked into the underground scene at the time. I'm really impressed now in 2022.
Every time I think about skateboarding (despite loving most of the earlier Tony Hawk games) my brain always goes to that video where the skateboarder apparently ripped open his family-jewel-purse and just go, "I'm kinda glad I never tried actually skateboarding apart from that one I had for, like, a week that I could kinda roll around on a do a tiny wheelie until my stepdad tried to use it and broke it because it was probably from Wal-Mart or something." My actual brain can be as long-winded as when I type stuff barely anyone will ever see.
Excellent video, great job! I love these, and THUG is one of my favorite games in the series because of the freaky Xavier Renegade Angel cutscenes. Hey here's a weird question: what's the deal with that Sunny Side Up EP cover at 17:02? I used to know one of the guys in that band and as far as I know they were never super popular, seeing that album art in this video was like having an out of body experience. Are you from around there or something?
I know you said you don't want to do a review this long again but the long review format is comfy as fuck man, this video was fucking great it's really reminiscent of MatthewMatosis' shit
i love these long reviews of childhood games good job everytime i see a channel with low sub counts like yours i always get scared that they will stop making videos if you like these kind of videos i suggest checking out rad rat video
No plan's on stopping! The next video just needs to be edited, still takes a bit to get them out as I have a lot of college work and a project I'm composing music for which take priority. as of now the editing for the next video is around a third done, and hopefully when school and this project slow down I can buckle down and do tons of work on the next video and future ones!
2:15 First of all, he spun around 2 1/2 times! Second of all... no, no that’s it. 2 1/2 times... ..why did I even comment this... Also, the Smash 5 joke didn’t age well, lol.
I honestly don't mind, I'm just chillin' and like making these for fun. I'm not sure if I even like the idea of getting over a thousand subs, having all that attention seems stressful haha. I really appreciate how a lot of people are liking the video though, it's shocking getting so much positive feedback on some videos I mainly like just making for a group of friends. Thanks!
This is my genuinely my favorite video on this entire site. God I hope this guy makes more stuff at some point, if he wants too.
"Are you Tony Hawk?"
"Yeah"
"Why"
I can't wait for Tony Hawks Existential Crisis
You're honestly one of the best reviewers on this site dude
Thanks a lot for the kind words! Already working on the next video.
you need more press, holy shit
Keep at it man! Review underground 2 while your at it. Plus throw eric into the helicopter blades.
@@RunningShine truea fter 5 years
@@KBash hey look it's kbash buried in a comment section from a half a decade ago. Neat.
Underground might've of had a 'alright' story but as a kid back then playing this game had taught me the difference between 'desire' and 'passion'.
Desire is something everyone wants to 'have' like fortune and fame but it's something that isn't equal to passion.
Eric and 'you' ( the player ) is great example of this. Although Eric was talented in skateboarding he wasn't as nearly as passionate as You ( the player ) in fact multiple times its shown Eric envy You for what you can do and is capable of. Eric wants nothing but what he desires and will do anything to get a hold of it. As for 'You' ( the player ) only wants to go further in your passion (by learning new things to improve) and not be so quick to be jealous of others competitively (like how Eric is quick to take away competition) rather ( the player ) is filled with passion enjoys such competition and enjoys the ride wether you lose or not. Skateboarding not bout fame or fortune or winning or losing. Its about the adrenaline of feeling free and alive.
Hot damn, that's pretty neat.
Damn that's sick. Also what's your profile pic source?
@@efx616 I make art (still pretty rusty atm) it's an old flipnote drawing I made 2 years back
instagram.com/p/B76ytNMD47U/?igshid=r2hmr1saddwx
I also post my art on my UA-cam channel (only 1 animation rn)
Woah, who woulda imagined a game about fucking skating around like a jackass could be deep.
@@scottmemelord6130 it might sound dumb but this game showed me the difference as well. It’s also why I still skate to this day, if I didn’t have skateboarding I don’t know what kind of terrible things I would have done.
I'm coming back for another
Hi JFJ
I hope this comment reply finds you well.
Please remember to tell that guy when your next stream is, I'm sure he would appreciate it.
Thanks.
Hehe fuck
Another slice of the running shine pie
Funny enough, the "punch Eric in the mouth" ending only happens if you've beaten the game once already
This man was so dedicated to the humor, he went through Eric's sh## twice! 😂😂
He probably already beat everything else beforehand.
I thought I imagined that. As a kid I thought it only happened if you played as a girl.
It happens when you beat the game on hard mode.
"Skating in Philly is so much better than skating anywhere else. People always ask me hum hurr ham hunnn mmm um mnunn d-d-d-d-g"
Man's got a real way with words.
Holy shit that Indiana Jones IMDB listing/visual gag has aged so damn well
I get an odd sense of nostalgia whenever I watch a Running Shine video, these videos are just so comfy.
Running Shine is the perfect example of what old internet humor and game reviews used to be. People like to brush it off as "outdated" or "didn't age well," but they get that impression because a majority of the time they didn't grow up on pre-2014 internet and were surrounded by entertainment that was much tamer. People really miss out on the charm and wit that comes from this style of video out of this view point of "ew old" because they don't know why it was so well liked and widespread in the first place. I feel like that's why everything has to be so watered-down, which is why everything seems so childish and shallow nowadays.
You've legitimately went from someone I never knew existed to my favorite reviewer ever in the course of an hour from watching your three reviews. Keep up the good work man.
@manwithausername4089to be fair I’ve gotten a lot of mileage out of them all lol
@manwithausername4089 exactly, can’t rush quality. The world does need more RS though
I live in Arkansas and have seen barns exactly like that my whole life.
I watch this review once a year and it's immaculate every time
Me too
Easily the gold-standard of youtube, this video is. Absolute top-tier content.
It's still surprising to me how positively these videos have been received. Makes me excited since I'm currently doing the video editing for the next one.
"I'll just make him look like me." _makes him looks like a disfigured mudman_
Hey dude, I've watched this over and over since I first saw it a year ago. It's fantastic. It actually inspired me to pick up a skateboard again after a decade of not riding. You're great.
1:41 I like how the binary under Neversoft's logo in this frame literally translates into "FUCK BAM MARGARA."
This review has aged so well. The addition of you guys composing your own music, plus the whole DIY feeling of the entire production, it's hard to describe but I guess the only way to put it is that this video is feels precision-engineered to be enjoyed on a rainy day. No joke is too long and obnoxious, and the pace is kept up nicely with great snappy editing. The script is worthy of praise too. This is the ideal review in my eyes. You even composed and sung your own punk song for a NOFX joke! BADASS
Do you have any tips for composing/scriptwriting for this type of thing? I've been inspired here.
I’m not sure how good my advice would be since I’m not sure what kind of tone you’re wanting to have for what you’re making. I can say though that you describe what we want to capture with these videos perfectly. I’ve always liked UA-cam as a way for people to make content that’s authentic to themselves. I obviously like video games a lot so I focus the channel on that, but I also love music and comedy, and the coziness of old PBS documentaries. I don’t consciously think to make something that would be nice to watch on a rainy day, but I know exactly what you’re talking about, and it’s one of my favorite vibes a piece of art can give me, so the desire to make something that’ll convey that feeling is going to manifest in some way, even if it’s not planned out. Despite how long these videos take to make they’re not very calculated, we write down a script obviously, but I change a lot when recording since Tropics is usually there to give me feedback, and sometimes suggest ways to expand bits. When things are being edited in audio and video, there’s a lot of things cut out to make things flow better, but also stuff will be added on in the editing stage too to enhance a mood or create space, or create a joke by timing an image or video to show up on screen. It means that these videos have decisions made on the spot, allowing them to take on their own life as it gets developed more, and I try to lean into that as best I can.
I love simple editing a lot. For whatever reason I would watch a lot of “rant” videos when I was a kid in 2009 where random people would talk about 4kids or Jesus Camp for 10 minutes. Most of these were just guys with their webcams but some of them would scroll through images instead, nume26 probably did this the best out of all of them since she would use the scrolling images to tell secondary jokes which I’m still a fan of. The DIY aspect to the videos is actually something I care about a lot. I like presenting these videos as if they’re completely amateur, because when somebody takes a risk with their time to watch it through and gets something out of it, it creates a fun feeling that you’ve discovered something unknown and fun. It’s a part of the reason that I hope the channel can stay niche, because that effect is kind of lost when a channel has 50k+ subs.
Despite the simplicity in editing, I always put in a lot of work in editing to make sure that cuts happen right when they should, I abuse one feature in premiere that lets me go frame by frame and hear the audio at any moment, and use this to make sure that cuts happen just at the right time, it helps an insane amount when I’m trying to figure out the right time to cut from a joke. I don’t think there’s really a formula for it, but you get a sense for what feels right after a bit. You’d be surprised how being only couple frames off can completely kill a delivery. I read through and record some of these jokes many times, and I’ll edit them stone-faced, but I know when the edit is good because I’ll end up cracking up at it all over again.
That’s the real key to anything creative. A lot of people will say to just “be yourself”, but I think that’s much easier said than done. People generally want to hide themselves even when they can be anonymous online. A lot of people overthink things, instead of doing what is funny to them and seeing it through, they focus on what other people think is funny, instead of doing what they like, they do what others like, or see what other youtubers are doing, and try to copy their style in hopes of finding success. You might get some fans with this, but they will be liking an inauthentic persona that doesn’t reflect who you really are, and over time you’ll find that what was suppose to be a fun hobby has turned into something miserable, the only benefit is an emotional shield from harsh criticism, it’s easier to handwave that away when the content they’re criticizing doesn’t reflect who you are in any way, but I don’t think the tradeoff is worth it at all in the long run. Obviously not everybody is going to like running shine videos, but the people who do are going to get more out of it since I think an audience can tell when something is made out of fun and good spirits.
Best I can say is do what you want, hear people out when they have feedback (even if it’s rude or insulting, sometimes there can still be something useful they’re saying), try not to focus on numbers.
If you mean composing as in music, I can try to give some advice on that but I’d need to write up another comment tomorrow or later. Happy you like the NoFX parody!
@@RunningShine fuck man. I did not expect all this. It makes me SO relieved to see that you guys WANT to stay niche. Oh that is so relieving. The views on that YIIK video scared me a bit. Not because I don't want that kind of success for you guys or anything, I just know a ton of youtubers who had that vibe we're discussing and lost it due to weekly uploads, chasing trends, sponsors, or other tacky stuff. It's so nice to see the attitude you display here. Your writing and editing tips are very helpful too. I do love that premiere feature, it is so fucking nice. And yeah, I'm not big on numbers. I would prefer to also stay niche like this, just making videos on things I'm super passionate about, trying to stay mostly positive and engaging to a small core audience.
But the whole composing your own music thing is what really drew me in here. I've never tried any kind of compositions before, short of playing some mediocre riffs on a terrible electric guitar sloppily. Never anything digital though. I'm assuming you use fruityloops or pro tools for sequencing and record your instruments live? Idk if I could afford the monthly cost, but like I said I'm completely clueless here. I don't have a Mac so GarageBand is out the window.
I hear you about being genuine too. It's tough but definitely the more fun way to make this kind of stuff. Sorry for the overly long response, I'm just stunned at how much effort you put into your response. I've been trying to change this PFP forever and its still the super old lame one, so sorry for that. And I apologize if asking for composition advice is too hefty or loaded of a question for a youtube comments thread. I saw you did some work for the METAGAME soundtrack and that's exactly the type of thing I can get down with composing. Just not sure where to start really. I really appreciate your long and thought out response though man. I'll be eagerly anticipating you seeing this and as always excited for your next video, I think I saw a post about it being ocarina. Hype shit
@@classclown6ya I think it’s great you played some guitar previously even if you’re not very confident with how good you played. It’s a really nice instrument because it’s very “relative” if that makes sense. If you learn to play a song in G, changing it to A is a matter of sliding up 2 notes on the guitar scale, so the muscle memory is always the same, this makes it great for learning songs because I feel it makes you focus more on the movement between chords and how the harmony is working much faster compared to other instruments where you spend more time at first focusing on hitting the notes themselves. It’s not perfect though, piano definitely has it beat for composing in my eyes since you can easily play base in one hand and do the chords/melody in the other.
Back in the day Mac was definitely king of music production, but I think that’s changed a lot in recent years. I have a much easier time working with VST’s on windows, for instance. And AISO4ALL allows for high quality low latency on windows soundcards that works just as good as Core Audio on Mac. If you’re using an audio interface for recording though, it’s a non issue since you’re going to be using its driver instead of the sound card in the computer. I’ve used several different music programs through the years. Most of what was done on Metagame was back when I worked in Cubase, but recently I’ve been spending more time in Ableton, and have gotten pretty obsessed with tracking programs like Renoise and Deflemask. Fruityloops, Ableton, and Cubase all basically function the same though, you compose with a sequencer where you can add tracks and Midi sequences to compose the music, and run those tracks through effects like reverb and EQ. With Midi tracks you can assign them to playback with VST instruments that give you sounds for all kinds of instruments like pianos, synthesizers, drums, etc. They’re all very solid choices, so if you want to learn, just pick the one that works the best in terms of price or the one that looks the nicest to use. If you want something cheap, Reaper is a fantastic digital audio workstation similar to Cubase and Ableton, but has a much more affordable license and it’s a one time payment where you don’t need to deal with usb keys. It’s not the prettiest program but it’s insanely flexible and works near perfectly.
A lot of the stuff I did for Metagame was more ambient, and I remember for those tracks I leaned a lot on maj7 and min7 chords and didn’t mess around with dominants because that would create a sense of harmonic movement towards some kind of resolution as to give the tracks a bit of a floaty and unresolving harmony. I also used a lot of pedal tones, which is where you play a single note in the bass, and only change the chords. I was really into the Warp Records IDM stuff like μ-ziq and Boards of Canada, so I was kind of chasing that sound a bit. Nowadays I’m more into jazz and pop music so I like dominant chords now and more traditional harmony, although I still like revisiting that floatier style of composing every once in awhile. I really recommend learning songs that you like on piano or guitar and trying to understand what’s happening with the chords and bass. I notice a lot of people get really into music theory, but don’t apply that knowledge to learning songs, which I think is the best way to learn, it’s a lot easier to internalize theory when you can see it being used practically in songs you like, it allows you to find patterns and directions you can take harmony through experience and creates a kind of “harmonic library” you can pull from.
I recommend learning analog synthesizers too since I was all about them on that soundtrack. I really like the Juno-60 and SH-101 VST clones done by Tal software, and often I would just turn the cutoff down to get a very lower mid range tone and use that for chords. Nowadays I’m really into FM synthesis and am actually thinking of doing a video showing how to program it and the great sounds it can produce since it’s a bit unintuitive to use.
Also I don’t think there’s anything wrong with your PFP, nothing wrong with repping Cowboy Bebop in my eyes. Hopefully I was able to help!
@@RunningShine you very much were able to help man, thank you. I will come back to this thread if I have any issues with what you layed out, thanks man!
Holy shit that NOFX thing was a bit?? Sounded so fitting I honestly thought it's just a funny thing they did, no wonder I couldn't find it for the life of me.
Fuckin' bravo man, that's equally really cool and side-splittingly hilarious.
This is still probably the best review on the channel even today, not to take away from every other video as they're just as good, especially with the length and effort put into them, but something about this one is so rewatchable to me. The pacing, the delivery and timing on jokes, and the poignant critiques that bring up good points throughout really make it such an excellent review, for a skateboarding game of all things. I'm glad that your style for game reviewing was pretty much perfected with this video as I've probably watched this one about 30 times in the last 2 months or so.
Keep it up, man. I've been wanting to see a good Plinkett-style reviewer of video games, and this channel is the closest thing and more. It's not just a derivative of that editing style, but the jokes and analysis of both are on-fucking-point.
Also I doubt anyone minds the length, it was perfectly entertaining throughout.
This game is straight up how I got into skating, not to mention how its soundtrack influenced my music taste as a kid. I’ll never forget speedrunning the game one day and flipping out after my character smashed Eric’s jaw with his elbow like that at the end, cathartic as fuck after all his shit. Fantastic video man!
Eric Sparrow emerges from the river, holding the Behelit.
_Hai Yo sounds intensify_
The story mode was so good for THUG1. I remember being blown away by the fact I could create my own skater as a kid and have him interact with the story
I meant to post this comment a while ago, but I think that this video is seriously perfect. Everything transitions into itself so perfectly that you would think it was engineered from a team of scientists. I honestly think that this video is paced better than anything else on your channel, and the music it just the cherry on top. Fantastic job.
After watching this excellent review multiple times I finally went to the trouble of translating the binary under the Neversoft logo
A+
What's it say, pleaaassee
Ah, yes... Eric Sparrow. Or some might call him "The Blight of the 2000's"
Eric's backstab hurts more than Griffith's. The protagonist really tries to be a good friend to him in spite of everything.
hopefully you do one on the SKATE series.
Sadly have super limited experience with those games. I'd love picking them up though if I buy a ps3 at some point. I can imagine me doing a video if I get real into them.
@@RunningShine they can be emulated pretty readily now with rpcs3. if you buy a ps3 copy you could just play it on yr computer
1:41 says “FUCK BAM MARGARA [sic]”
What an unnecessary yet incredible detail.
All of your videos are a ton of fun, but I think this one's still my favorite.
I get more excited for these than matthewmatosis reviews.
Haha, I don't know if I deserve that praise. Matthew is on another level.
He does full out academic reviews spliced with some game dev knowledge. This is like listening to a buddy talk about what he loves.
I feel like they're on par with each other but in different ways.
These two are basically my favorite reviewers I cant think of others that come close.
Absolutely fantastic work man. This is one of the best videos I've seen in a while. Lots of people struggle to find a balance between having meaningful discussion on a game and having good comedy in a video, and you're walking that tight rope exceptionally well. Keep it up, I'm looking forward to more videos!
This is probably the best video on a Tony Hawk game I've ever seen. I must have watched it at least 10 times, and it manages to entertain and remain enjoyable every single time.
This is the only game I have ever 100% completed and I love the work you put into this video. I watch it at least once a month since I've discovered it. I pray for your every success.
I would rather visit any flyover state than NJ. WOW, that, "WAIT KID IT'S TOO DANGEROUS!" was way more burned into my head than I realized.
Man, I just got THUG2 on PC to eventually play THUG PRO but damn does this make me miss RS. Truly an inspiration for the vertically integrated, collaborative videos that make everything they use: footage, music, everything.
going back and watching this, the intro hit hard when in realized the only time i ever skateboarded was when i lived in orange county
28:00 THANK YOU! Thank you, a game that acknowledges that everything has its limits and after a point it's okay to use violence! I am so tired of stories, be they in games or TV shows or books or movies or whatever, where the antagonist just keeps doing horrible shit, but the protagonist needs to be shown as a good person by never getting physical. I think people forget that the protagonist already *has* the high ground because they're not the one that started shit, and forget what the teachers told you in elementary school, ethically speaking it absolutely matters whether you act or are re-acting to what someone else has done. The player here gives Eric 3 chances throughout the game and Eric screws him over three times, the final one leading the player character to jail. It's perfectly reasonable to get physical at that point and actually vent the anger that the character _and_ player are feeling in a satisfying way. If you turn the other cheek and the guy uses the opportunity to pants you, you knee him in the chin and kick him in the chest while he's down.
So, yeah. Nice to see some media that realizes that it's not only unrealistic but also unhealthy to send a message of absolute eternal pacifism.
(Necroposting from a comment of 1 year ago, c r i n g e I know)
A bit of a minor point here, while I don't disagree with EVERYTHING in this comment, you lost me when you said it's "unhealthy" to not use violence against an asshole, while I don't have a problem seeing one getting punched, this kind of implies that violence is the ONLY way to deal with anger and that not doing so is "bad". But thing is, there are other (and arguably better) ways of dealing with anger than lashing it out against someone, especially because if you punch someone, you even have the risk of getting into a fight and get hurt!
TLDR: Violence can be "acceptable" but that doesn't mean it's always the best and most ideal option.
@@on-zm8sg I never said that violence is always the right choice or only the right choice. As I brought up multiple times, it is the fact that the character has wronged the protagonist many, many times throughout the game. Wronged them in ways with serious repercussions including jail time. I am not at all advocating for slugging someone because they cut in front of you in line at the grocery store. What I am advocating for is an end to the message that violence is _never_ the answer. That is what I believe is unhealthy, the notion that it is _never_ okay under _any_ circumstance to use violence. I one hundred percent am not trying to say that people should make violence their first resort.
@@Shenaldrac I actually didn't mean to say that, but that's because I should've specified that it was also on the situation where the violence is "acceptable", so yeah, my mystake. Even in the context of the story, as satisfying as it is to see the protagonist punching Eric, it's not as if it would be "unhealthy" if the protagonist just left him alone which was my point, since as I said, there are other ways of dealing with anger. What WOULD be unhealthy, was if Eric suddenly decided to use violence first and the protagonist didn't, and the game treats the protagonist as being right for doing so.
@@on-zm8sg Fair enough, though I think we'll have to agree to disagree here.
@@on-zm8sg pacifism is a plague and violence is literally moral
Wow, the Goldfinger song in THPS1 is one I know every word to even though I can't remember the name of it rn.
Superman
i know this video is four years old by now but i really like how you formatted it. i watch this pretty often
Seriously never laughed so hard at a review man 🤣🤣 Jesus your personality is 👏🏻
I wonder how many people played or replayed this game because of this video and got completely blindsided by Eric's wild ride at the end.
I love how that guy showing you his new graphics is just like "some artist did this" but is still showing you them like he made them
I"m in love with your videos. Incredible for late night laughs and insight
I`m sad to say this but Kirby's Nephew never made it to the roster of Ultimate
There's no way he's making it now :(
Dude you really do need more views I love these vids. The small Melee jokes is what gets me the most.
"Smash 5? That sounds horrible. The ruleset's gonna be like one stock and everyone's gonna be playing as like Kirby's nephew or something."
Yeah.
Your pfp works with this so well
Man I'm so glad youtube recommend me this. You make some great videos.
Eric + woodchipper = happiness
THUG was my favorite Tony Hawk game and is tied for best soundtrack.
The first Underground was great, except for the horrible vehicle controls. Underground 2 basically marked the end of Tony Hawk, while American Wasteland was kinda OK, nothing good came out after Underground 1 and they should've just ended the series there.
This was a really good review and it sucks it doesn't have more recognition. Keep up the good work my dude, it'll pay off eventually.
Dudem so glad I found your channel, truly quality content! A diamond in the rough!
do more Tony Hawk reviews cause this is fuckin amazing, legendary even. love it
saw this bad boy after watching the yiik review. your videos are so well made i can't wait for the next one.
Dude this was awesome, put a lot of insight into what to appreciate about a game and level design too and your humors brilliant. Made me a bit nostalgic for that game too, I'd spend hours just sort of exploring around areas in that game. Honestly I forgot it even existed at this point but it was nice to remember. Although I'm hella hungry though so I might spend that $5 on 7/11... although actually I didn't have the $5 in the first place so I'm probably just gonna go to sleep so I can wake up to my shitty alarm clock for work. Keep on making sick stuff though man I can't wait for more and am probably gonna start marathoning some of your other stuff. Peace!
Dude,you are hilarious. I can't wait for the next video. Keep up the awesome work man.
Tony Hawk’s Underground?
*Well, get him out!!!*
the secrets like jumping into some tikis mouth in hawaii or unlocking the kiss concert lol this game was fun af
I love the reference to the mcdonald breakfast sandwich hashbrown combo from kirby
I love this review. It reminds me of my childhood. I would love to go back to when skateboarding games were hype.
Pretty damn great video, gonna check out the rest on your channel while I'm at it.
Keep up the good work!
love the way you review, hope to see more
Pretty fucking late, but I love this video. Always nice to just chill out and sober up while just watching this video over again. Thanks mate
This is one of the best video game reviews I've ever seen lol now I gotta see footage of the fighting in the golfing game you mentioned, I thought that was just a joke in South Park at the expense of Tiger Woods poor life decisions.
This video is my comfort food
I had tech decks, tech deck dudes, the hand skateboards sold at FAO schwarz, I was a spoiled skater kid in a way despite my parents not having a lot of money. Best I ever did was almost land ollieing down an 8 stair. I kick flipped a 4 stair successfully if you think that's better.
28:05 - *FUCKING FINALLY*
Top tier quality content btw.
Is youtube algoritm working? I was interested in tonyhawk underground watched two vids, and then jfj showed us your channel and here it is! Now i know about the game that i never played! Amasing
8:37 *CORRECTION* You _CAN_ use skitching as a combo, by either manualing or running into the car then jumping into a manual or back into running after.
16:57 dude, thank you. I forgot about People Under The Stairs! Holy shit
They picked some great groups to rep LA and West Coast. Whoever did the soundtrack for this game was actually very locked into the underground scene at the time. I'm really impressed now in 2022.
Every time I think about skateboarding (despite loving most of the earlier Tony Hawk games) my brain always goes to that video where the skateboarder apparently ripped open his family-jewel-purse and just go, "I'm kinda glad I never tried actually skateboarding apart from that one I had for, like, a week that I could kinda roll around on a do a tiny wheelie until my stepdad tried to use it and broke it because it was probably from Wal-Mart or something."
My actual brain can be as long-winded as when I type stuff barely anyone will ever see.
This video is still hilarious every time I watch it
Excellent video, great job! I love these, and THUG is one of my favorite games in the series because of the freaky Xavier Renegade Angel cutscenes. Hey here's a weird question: what's the deal with that Sunny Side Up EP cover at 17:02? I used to know one of the guys in that band and as far as I know they were never super popular, seeing that album art in this video was like having an out of body experience. Are you from around there or something?
I know you said you don't want to do a review this long again but the long review format is comfy as fuck man, this video was fucking great it's really reminiscent of MatthewMatosis' shit
Still the most kino review on UA-cam. I revisit this one pretty frequently. Thanks gang.
The fact that a skating game made a compelling history is just a miracle
I stuck around for the whole 30 minutes and loved it. Short or long keep em comin!
i love these long reviews of childhood games good job everytime i see a channel with low sub counts like yours i always get scared that they will stop making videos if you like these kind of videos i suggest checking out rad rat video
No plan's on stopping! The next video just needs to be edited, still takes a bit to get them out as I have a lot of college work and a project I'm composing music for which take priority. as of now the editing for the next video is around a third done, and hopefully when school and this project slow down I can buckle down and do tons of work on the next video and future ones!
I really like the long reviews.
Honestly this is one of my favorite video's on the internet, i've watched it half a dozen times. It's a damn shame you stopped making videos.
I'm really glad to see someone else was a fan of Sunny Side Up.
I thought tony hawk in boom boom sabotage was a fever dream of mine
Oh jeez, the player character looks like an alien. XD
17:16 Can we PLEASE get the full song?
I have been trying to find it for a while too
@@non-processedyoutuber1112 there is no full song, its a parody they made for the joke
2:15 First of all, he spun around 2 1/2 times! Second of all... no, no that’s it. 2 1/2 times...
..why did I even comment this...
Also, the Smash 5 joke didn’t age well, lol.
This is the best review ever!!!!!! Keep these type of videos going!!!
8:40 You can skitch in a combo from manual aswell as continuing the combo by ollieing and manualing again.
GTA craze was so strong it made TH shift genres
Not one, but two of my fav UA-camrs really like you. You are one impressive guy my dude. Tho I admit, this video was really good.
gonna play thps1+2 for the first time while listening to this for like the 20th time
This is some insanely great stuff, not sure why this channel is so small views/subs wise.
I honestly don't mind, I'm just chillin' and like making these for fun. I'm not sure if I even like the idea of getting over a thousand subs, having all that attention seems stressful haha. I really appreciate how a lot of people are liking the video though, it's shocking getting so much positive feedback on some videos I mainly like just making for a group of friends. Thanks!
I'm 3 minutes in and have laughed 10+ times. Either Im easily amused, or you are funny as hell
Ya gotta do Paper Mario and the Thousand Year Door to coincide with the release of Color Splash.
$10 for an afternoon of caving my skull in on virtual coping and some snacks from 7-11 is a fucking steal
your videos are the most legit on this site, please do more omg
This video is just gold
this shit still cracks me up
this was great . the games kept me busy until i beat them back in the day lol
This guy deserves more subscribers
God damn, this was an amazing review. It was like a journey. Subscribed and hope your channel grows!