I have an addendum: I couldn’t find it to save my life but finally got a video sent to me of Derek Kendall front squatting 855. So still second heaviest on video but closer to jezza than i thought
I would love to see a video like this about RDL s done for reps! I know its not so strength oriented as other feats, but the RDL is the thing I go hardest on as both a developemental tool and strength metric. This week I hit 110 kg x 7. I aim to reach 160 kg x 10 in my training career! Great video!
For context I m 5 feet 7, natty, weigh 76 kg as of now at 19 % bf. Someday I d like to be 80 kg lean, therefore the 160 x 10 RDL would be twice bw at my "peak body comp" some day.
Definitely an achievable goal for you! I've done 170x8 and more recently 190x5 for RDLs. Also trying to reach a 260kg deadlift, both conventional and sumo
Holy shit that sounds like a lot. What I was thinking was that if I got 160 x 10 then I should consider actually doing conventional deadlift and seeing if I am any good at it. But I ll take it one step at a time! Thanks for the motivation man!
You make and defend a solid point regarding the value of front squatting for Strongman. And I think I know where the detractor is "off." Compared to a back squat, a front squat is actually relatively EASIER on the quadriceps and HARDER on the hips and back. If you look at the profile of a front squat, the fact that the bar is in front of the neck moves its center of mass (combined with the center of mass of the body of the lifter) forward by, what, I guess 8". And 8" forward means the center of mass is forward and centered just a few inches from being directly over the knees . . . so the leg lever is much shorter. When one then sees a front squatter bend their posture forward, he/she is taking even more load off the legs and transferring it onto his/her hips and back, the hinge. The load on the hips/ back is greatly increased. When you see a novice lifter struggling to stand with a front squat and looking close to dumping it, the legs are normally not the issue; it is the lower back struggling with the bar positioned so far forward. I should add this is counterintuitive as the lifter should have more confidence in the legs supplying the power by maintaining strict posture. *So, front squats are very close to modeling lifting heavy stones (stones are well out in front) and several other Strongman events.
Is there a benefit to front squatting doing the front rack clean grip for general strength purposes? I wish I could but I do find it uncomfortable for my wrists so I either use straps on the bar or use the cross grip
Basically the only benefit of the front rack for non-weightlifters is that it’s the most stable way to hold the bar in front. So if you can get flexible enough to do it without wrist pain then that’s great, but if you can’t then straps are a decent second option. The cross rack position is probably also fine, but in my experience it just feels like shit in terms of my balance.
Oak is a great squatter, but an ssb front squat isn't the same. The camber of the ssb place the weights center of gravity further back, much more forgiving than a barbell front squat. I'm prettt sure Oak even made a video about that, and saying how the ssb front squats helped him with sitting back with his backsquats.
That's a new sub from me. I'd never seen that 312.5kg FS from Koklyaev before, absolutely insane. There are rumours that Rezazadeh had done 300x3kg several times, which would almost certainly translate to 320kg at a minimum (700lbs+.) No footage that we know of, typically.
Have you seen Jimmy Paquet's 675x2? Seems like no one I ask ever has but that was one of the most impressive ones I've seen especially since he was 275-290 at the time
The depth difference tho is pretty apparent when looking at the weightlifters v the powerlifters. Not sure how much of a difference it would have made. But probably decent. Although that powerlifter before the end of the video looked like he hit ATG
Yea absolutely a factor in many of these but I would argue that the depth on Ilyas 290 is just as shotty as some of the powerlifters (and as ya said derek kendalls was pretty darn deep but overall agree)
@@ShetharTrainingyeah ilya might have not hit ATG with that front squat although his camera angle and his amazing squat leverages its hard to see. Granted thats because apparently he screwed his back up which is why he stopped ATG squat apparently
Kinda sad I didn't see an ode to Dan Green. He was putting up some gnarly front squats the best recorded I've seen are 645 and 635 @220 bw. I also swear I remember seeing a 675 front squat some years ago in some light wraps but I can't seem to find the video anymore
Being someone with long ass femurs n short torso. Front squat is a bane for me but I just love it. Balancing is the hardest part since I have to tilt forward a bit.
wait holy shit i just realized its the exact same poster lmao, I knew he also had an anatomy chart up on his wall but its the exact same one in the corner of a white room 😂
I remember hearing that weightlifters should be able to do 3reps in the front squat with what they clean and jerk. Front squatting more than that isnt necessary supposedly??
Yea there are quite a few lighter lifters with insane fronts like Ivan Ivanov’s 4x bw front squat but I could not fit everyone that deserved a mention in the video!
Not superior in that the give a better training stimulus per say but superior in that most athletes will be able to achieve better numbers from the front rack if able to do either!
@@ShetharTraining ahhh, so bigger potential max with Front Rack position than with Cross Grip? Is that because the upper back is more involved in the Front Rack?
Yessir both because the upper back is put in a better position from a front rack and having hands keeping the bar bank you can have a bit more breakdown before the bar falls to the floor!
Mark Henry claims to have done an 832 front squat but I haven't seen a video of it. Still believe him though just based on his past and ability to squat many pounds.
I did a Natty 515lb Clean Grip ATG Front Squat in knee sleeves and a pair of Athletic Fit Levis. Freakied did a 550lb naked knee raw front squat. With that being said sick video man. Only didn't comment my humble brag that is unimpressive compared to these guys is because I had no channel during the time and I go on and off of social media besides reddit.
I have an addendum: I couldn’t find it to save my life but finally got a video sent to me of Derek Kendall front squatting 855. So still second heaviest on video but closer to jezza than i thought
Tank Murakami should be a guest on the large lads season finale
He's the ultimate chad, his energy is absolutely unmatched
real
This should 100% be a series.
Love seeing big front squats. Not a lift you can really game. Strong front squatter = strong human being.
Look up wormchad front squat if you think it can't be cheated 😂
@@hellshakeyano7686 his form is awful, but he didn't cheat anything. His upper back rounding over is why he was failing in the reps he failed
@@freakied0550 I'd consider making spinal erectors the prime mover in a front squat cheating lol
@@hellshakeyano7686I’d consider his back rounding to be the opposite of cheating, literally makes it harder instead of easier
As someone looking for a 405lbs front squat, this heavily interests me.
Like asking for a 225 ohp
Strict press or push press compilation would be sick
Andrew Richard would show up and I'd love it
I would love to see a video like this about RDL s done for reps! I know its not so strength oriented as other feats, but the RDL is the thing I go hardest on as both a developemental tool and strength metric.
This week I hit 110 kg x 7. I aim to reach 160 kg x 10 in my training career!
Great video!
For context I m 5 feet 7, natty, weigh 76 kg as of now at 19 % bf. Someday I d like to be 80 kg lean, therefore the 160 x 10 RDL would be twice bw at my "peak body comp" some day.
I am fully confident if you put in the time you will be able to hit 200kg for that amount of reps, dont underestimate yourself!
Definitely an achievable goal for you! I've done 170x8 and more recently 190x5 for RDLs. Also trying to reach a 260kg deadlift, both conventional and sumo
I did 140 kg for 6@8 , super happy about it, as I was kinda fatigued from sumo dls before that
Holy shit that sounds like a lot. What I was thinking was that if I got 160 x 10 then I should consider actually doing conventional deadlift and seeing if I am any good at it.
But I ll take it one step at a time! Thanks for the motivation man!
Literally about to hit front squats
Oh, you figured it out! Thats awesome dude, love the new format with your commentary
Gotta add these back
i love your vast knowledge across various strength sports, such a rare training-realm personality!
Thank ya man! I really like lifting weights if ya couldnt tell haha
Love this style of vid. In for more
Fun video. Thanks.
great video man!
Back to back bangers
I train with Jackson at my gym! Super nice guy!
It's SQUAT FRIDAY again. This was interesting and inspiring.
Honorary mention, Ivan Ivanov. 4x body weight front squat beltless and sleeveless, 463 @ 115 lbs bw
You make and defend a solid point regarding the value of front squatting for Strongman. And I think I know where the detractor is "off." Compared to a back squat, a front squat is actually relatively EASIER on the quadriceps and HARDER on the hips and back. If you look at the profile of a front squat, the fact that the bar is in front of the neck moves its center of mass (combined with the center of mass of the body of the lifter) forward by, what, I guess 8". And 8" forward means the center of mass is forward and centered just a few inches from being directly over the knees . . . so the leg lever is much shorter. When one then sees a front squatter bend their posture forward, he/she is taking even more load off the legs and transferring it onto his/her hips and back, the hinge. The load on the hips/ back is greatly increased. When you see a novice lifter struggling to stand with a front squat and looking close to dumping it, the legs are normally not the issue; it is the lower back struggling with the bar positioned so far forward. I should add this is counterintuitive as the lifter should have more confidence in the legs supplying the power by maintaining strict posture. *So, front squats are very close to modeling lifting heavy stones (stones are well out in front) and several other Strongman events.
The biggest Row of some kind of pretty standerdized form would be pretty cool to see
I'd like to see suggestions on how to standardize a row for a hypothetical competition
Pavlo Nakonechnyy has hit some pretty nutty rows
Video dropped right on the day I do front squats. These guys are just straight up monsters holy
Woah what a surprise banger Sam!
awesome video bro!
Thank ya!
all the best bro... hope u smash the competition
Thank you brother!
I made the most quad gains when i started going hard on front squats and also helped my back squats smoother and stronger
The 250 from Klokov with hamstrings on calves and a pause is the most impressive one to me.
Is there a benefit to front squatting doing the front rack clean grip for general strength purposes? I wish I could but I do find it uncomfortable for my wrists so I either use straps on the bar or use the cross grip
Basically the only benefit of the front rack for non-weightlifters is that it’s the most stable way to hold the bar in front. So if you can get flexible enough to do it without wrist pain then that’s great, but if you can’t then straps are a decent second option. The cross rack position is probably also fine, but in my experience it just feels like shit in terms of my balance.
Awesome
Next vid heaviest zercher sqwat would be awesome
Kevin oak front ssb squated 775
Oak is a great squatter, but an ssb front squat isn't the same. The camber of the ssb place the weights center of gravity further back, much more forgiving than a barbell front squat. I'm prettt sure Oak even made a video about that, and saying how the ssb front squats helped him with sitting back with his backsquats.
wish I had short legs like klokov
That's a new sub from me. I'd never seen that 312.5kg FS from Koklyaev before, absolutely insane. There are rumours that Rezazadeh had done 300x3kg several times, which would almost certainly translate to 320kg at a minimum (700lbs+.) No footage that we know of, typically.
Rezazedeh is certainly a lifter I'm inclined to believe was capable of that kind of lift for sure!
Have you seen Jimmy Paquet's 675x2? Seems like no one I ask ever has but that was one of the most impressive ones I've seen especially since he was 275-290 at the time
I just went and watched it, holy shit that is one hell of a set! I think many dont know how strong jimmy paquet was!
Getting my lasha fanboy on and saying his rpe 4 280kg front squat is the one ive watched the most
How much you like lasha genuinely warms my heart lol
Fuck yeah heavy history
Heaviest rear-delt flyes compilation
The depth difference tho is pretty apparent when looking at the weightlifters v the powerlifters. Not sure how much of a difference it would have made. But probably decent. Although that powerlifter before the end of the video looked like he hit ATG
Yea absolutely a factor in many of these but I would argue that the depth on Ilyas 290 is just as shotty as some of the powerlifters (and as ya said derek kendalls was pretty darn deep but overall agree)
@@ShetharTrainingyeah ilya might have not hit ATG with that front squat although his camera angle and his amazing squat leverages its hard to see. Granted thats because apparently he screwed his back up which is why he stopped ATG squat apparently
I love watching Ilya Ilin weighing below 100 kg doing easy explosive reps with 250 kg. On yhe other hand he cl& jerked 242 .
Kinda sad I didn't see an ode to Dan Green. He was putting up some gnarly front squats the best recorded I've seen are 645 and 635 @220 bw. I also swear I remember seeing a 675 front squat some years ago in some light wraps but I can't seem to find the video anymore
Being someone with long ass femurs n short torso. Front squat is a bane for me but I just love it. Balancing is the hardest part since I have to tilt forward a bit.
Overhead standards have regressed, but we'll get there.
No Clarence0? 😞
Taranenko alledgely did a 300kg front squat triple
I fully believe this, amount a few other Taranenko and Rezazadeh are a few athletes I have no double were capable of that kind of lifting
@@ShetharTraining Add Chemerkin to that list...
Alledegely the strongest WL specimen as far as raw strength was concerned
Yo @NaturalHypertrophy Sam just broke into your house and is recording a video on your computer.
wait holy shit i just realized its the exact same poster lmao, I knew he also had an anatomy chart up on his wall but its the exact same one in the corner of a white room 😂
I remember hearing that weightlifters should be able to do 3reps in the front squat with what they clean and jerk. Front squatting more than that isnt necessary supposedly??
I know Shi Zhiyong's best front squat is "only" 255 kg, but he did that at a body weight of 69 kg. Should have been a worthwhile mention.
Yea there are quite a few lighter lifters with insane fronts like Ivan Ivanov’s 4x bw front squat but I could not fit everyone that deserved a mention in the video!
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Why do you say that Front Rack squats are superior to Cross Geip squats? Is it because they carry over more to other Front Rack exercises?
Not superior in that the give a better training stimulus per say but superior in that most athletes will be able to achieve better numbers from the front rack if able to do either!
@@ShetharTraining ahhh, so bigger potential max with Front Rack position than with Cross Grip? Is that because the upper back is more involved in the Front Rack?
Yessir both because the upper back is put in a better position from a front rack and having hands keeping the bar bank you can have a bit more breakdown before the bar falls to the floor!
7 plates, 17 years old???What the fuuuuuuuck
Mark Henry claims to have done an 832 front squat but I haven't seen a video of it. Still believe him though just based on his past and ability to squat many pounds.
I like Henry, but that's a doubt from me.
Larry Wheels did a 300kg frontsquat?
Don’t even give RP credit. He’s a clown.
You don't understand it ? Bruh, I don't even understand how can someone front squat 500lbs. It's the hardest lift in the gym to me.
The Presenter talks far too quickly, as though he's a nervous wreck. I hope he isn't. Still, a fascinating video.
Thankfully not a nervous wreck just talk to fast lol
ua-cam.com/video/9Q4mPD2XU_o/v-deo.htmlsi=xQWVoq8PQzDJx7Fj. Jani Illikainen 305kg
Phenomenal depth as well!
@@ShetharTraining a former strongman athlete, one of the strongest Finns of his time
I did a Natty 515lb Clean Grip ATG Front Squat in knee sleeves and a pair of Athletic Fit Levis. Freakied did a 550lb naked knee raw front squat. With that being said sick video man. Only didn't comment my humble brag that is unimpressive compared to these guys is because I had no channel during the time and I go on and off of social media besides reddit.
SIMPLE : TALKS TOO FAST, UNCLEAR.
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