I forgot to put the figures up at the RDR2 results at the end, so here they are. My bad lol. High/Med Settings at 1080p, AVG:54 1%:36 0.1%:31. Thanks for watching :)
I love how you treat cheaper hardware with respect. Everything has its purpose and I hate it when people hate on cheaper specs because it isn't an i7 or 2080ti
@@iiiiii7680 not saying I don't agree, but 720 and 1366 are still more common then 1440p so I think it's gonna e a long time. 1080p has been so cheap that 720 and 1366 shouldn't be common by that train of thought but still are none the less
@@Fender178 This is not misinformation, look at the bottom right side graph, see those crazy spikes? Those spikes cause input lag / frametime lag which impacts gameplay directly. Also, loading times without denuvo are reduced by literally 100% or more. In less powered chips, denuvo causes the most impact, the chip in the video is a very old chip, so it only makes sense that things would get better without the DRM.
@@raized943 You don't know if its from Denuvo it can be from the Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities that Intel patched for their CPUs as well. The Spectre and Meltdown patches really effected performance as well especially for older CPUs.
@@Fender178 Please refer to this video for tests: ua-cam.com/video/YnSavmI3knQ/v-deo.html In some games Denuvo absolutely destroys frametimes and loading times in the main menu. And in others, Denuvo does have an impact on Frames per Second, which isn't the case for AC specifically. Still, in no instances removing Denuvo made the game worse by any margin, apart from one, which was only a maximum frametime spike on a single game that did not have a benchmarking tool meaning minimum / maximum frametimes couldn't be measured consistently, but average frametime could, and in that regard, the no Denuvo build won.
They certainly do. I'm using a similarly performing E5-4620 I got on ebay in a Dell T3600 for $100. A little bit of tinkering later I got a bootable NVMe setup running (no thanks to Clover Boot). Absolutely worth the money.
because of the life they might have had, they could have been installed into a server day one and spent the last 10 years running, could be 80k+ hours on the chip and near the end of its life, so even though performance wise they are a great deal you have to be aware you will probably be the last owner of the chip, though at $10 cost you cant complain having to replace it once a year if they do burn out or stop being able to run games.
@@shroomzgames7370 It's very rare for a CPU to die of old age. The only use-related point of failure would be if the CPU manufacturer used thermal paste instead of soldering the chip to the IHS. Intel did that to their consumer CPUs from 2012 to 2018, but they've never done that to server CPUs.
Mine would be probably and older i7 like the 6 core 12 threaded 980 or 990X maybe a xeon x3440 or something like that and then 4 GTX465 in quad sli with the possibility to stack Vram.( I have a single 465 and it does a 33% overclock actually a bit higher its probably like 35 something but its amazing). Also still runs everygame in a playable experience) And then just 32GB of +/- 2900mhz DDR3 ram. It's gonna be really loud but I think it's kinda funny that it's that loud. And yeah then just a nice looking case and other obvious parts.
I have been hunting a cheap X58 motherboard from quite sometime but still no luck! Edit: Thanks for all the recommendations guys. The problem is old servers like supermicros or dell (likeT3500) or HP (like z400) are too expensive somewhere in between 200 to 350USD in some cases. I know about those Chinese brands but the problem is I want to build this PC to learn softwares like Unreal Engine4, 3ds max, SketchUp, Vray etc. So this pc will be running at 100% load for dozens of hours.
Have you tried what he recommends in the video? Looking for a pre-built with the same motherboard might be a better option than directly looking for the board itself.
I'd recommend a 120.00 usd motherboard. I'd also recommend an X5650 at least with a 5.0ghz overclock. Unfortunately with these 1366 motherboards, you pay for what you get. An OEM mobo just isn't worth it considering you get 9600k or 9700k performance from the X series 1366 Xeons with an overclock. Also you need a minimum of 16gb of ram. For some reason the ddr3 ram on current titles need more gb to keep up with ddr4, at least with game performance. 16gb 1866 or 1600mhz ddr3 ram is equivalent to 8gb of 2133mhz ddr4.
i love xeons. i have a e5-1650v2 i got for 60$ in my wifes pc. runs awesome on a x79 turbo plex hd from wish for 70$ overclocks really good with quad ch 1866 ram 32gb for 50$
@@Adam130694 On those Chinese boards you usually top out at ~4.0-4.1GHz (maybe 4.2GHz if you have an exceptional chip), as you can't adjust the voltage at all. With a better board you can crank them up to ~4.5-4.6GHz if you get a good chip, though they're extremely power-hungry at that point. My eight-core 1680 v2 pulled well over 200W on its own at 4.5GHz. The six core ones like the 1650 v2 will obviously be a little less than that.
Love old builds like these! I myself have an E5-2667v2 CPU pair I built almost two years ago. Got the MB with 128gb of RAM. 16 cores, 32 threads. I have a 1070ti in it and I can't see upgrading for years to come.
I am always happy when i see vids with the Z400 involved. You have just confirmed an idea i had will work as i was looking at the 1650 for my Z400. Plus now a 6 core cpu that is better priced then the 6 cores that Greenpcgaming recommended for this machine as well. Win win!
The best thing to do with these Z400's is to stick a W3680/90 in it as you can overclock it with Throttlestop - those particular Xeons have unlocked multipliers and can hit roughly 4Ghz on the Z400 board (as long as it is the 6 RAM slot v2 board).
Buy yourself a 15 GBP X5670 from Ali, oc to 4,2 Ghz and you basically have yourself a Ryzen 1600 (minus some recent instruction sets). Even my GTX 970 is holding this chip back in gaming...
actually the best way to get these boards brand new is from ali express. theres chinese companies that sell them for around 50 dollars brand new and they support over clocking.
@@jaber5345 Cool man, thanks. I do some budget builds from time to time, I like to tinker and squeeze the most performance for games out of older systems (I have to, my budget is typically $0 to $50 :P ) so that is of interest to me.
This makes me feel good. I got a Dell workstation with this CPU, 12 GB of RAM, and two Nvidio Quadro 4000 GPU's for free. I just had to install a new hard drive.
Interesting. I once had a Dell workstation with this CPU, 12GB of RAM and two Nvidia Quadro 4000 GPU's and one day I took a break while replacing the hard drive and someone stole it.
I doubt it would be worth it. A 20% improvement from overclocking is considered huge, very difficult to achieve, an absolute best case scenario. Even with a 20% improvement this CPU would still be very poor single thread. You would be better off buying an i7 920 for a short term upgrade, or saving up for an entry level Ryzen (preferably with a B450 chipset, the cheaper chipsets cripple the performance of Ryzen noticably).
@@lobsterbark if you are going to save up you might as well get a x570 chipset that way you can upgrade the CPU in the future for a better one (zen3 are compatible with x570 but not with b450)
I use two Xeon 5680s on my daily driver Mac Pro. Granted their 3.3Ghz clock is a lot higher but they still run all my daily needs including software development, photo and light video editing no problem. For $40 chips they run great and roughly on par with my 4770. Paired with an RX 580 the performance is great. The idea of an old workstation PC is great to reduce costs and the performance of these Xeons is great for the price compared to the consumer chips.
Just finished an X5670 build on a Gigabyte MB. Clocked it to 4.2 GHz, used the triple channel memory with 18GB (don't ask). Gtx 980. It bloody flies and cost £300 all up. Great video, I love your channel.
The problem with these older workstation/Xeon builds is not necessarily the performance, but the power consumption. You're better off buying something newer. Especially if you pay a lot per kilowatt hour.
@@mmaayyssoonn8858 yeah i hear that i have a 1070ti and a 1080ti here and have tested them both in most of the games i actually play there is very little difference in most games i have. anno shows the bottleneck badly tho so yeah its limited life tech but hey for the price its still a great little computer.
You can overclock Xeon W3680 and W3690 on the HP Z400 Workstation. And for X58 systems I'd recommend using RAM in triple channel for example 12GB (3x4GB or 6x2GB), 24GB (3x8GB or 6x4GB) or 48GB (6x8GB)
I have a HP Z600. Modified the PSU (read opened and soldered) to have an extra 6 pin. Even with a larger PSU the Z600 still only comes with a single 6 pin. For the CPUs I grabbed two X5670 because I wanted the extra core speed, esp when under single threads the Turbo refuses to kick in. For the GPU I have a 980. It's shocking how well it holds up for gaming and while not power efficient these days it's still good for content creation thanks to 12 cores 24 thread. Oh and RAM, 24 gigs came in the box. I got the workstation a while ago and it's still going strong. If you want to have a look for your channel I'm sure that can be arranged.
My previous PC is an X58 system running an i7-930. It's now serving as my NAS/HTPC in my living room but i can't see myself running it 24/7. With a 6 core xeon running at lower clocks and voltage, i could see myself doing it. Problem with X58 is that it's so old, your PCI Express slot is running at PCIe 2.0 speeds, so newer GPUS will are definitely not getting its full usage. It also doesn't have USB 3.0 support, so you'll need an extra PCIe internal card for that. And lastly, as RGHD said, he was using 8gb of RAM but the X58 platform uses TRIPLE CHANNEL memory, which is not normally acheivable to get 8gb of ram normally. You'd want 3x4gb of ram for a total of 12gb or 3x8gb for 24gb. To get 8gb of ram means you'd either put in 2x4gb sticks intead of 3 (which will affect performance, especially 1% and 0.1%) or 4gb+2gb+2gb, which is not ideal either.
Would love to see you do a review of the x5690. I run a pair of them and they are fantastic for almost any work load. hitting 3.7Ghz boost they are great for both single and multi core applications.
I fu*king love Xeons! Got an e3-1240v2 in my office rig and an e3-1220v2 in my home theatre PC I built both systems with parts that cost me virtually nothing (I do this sh*t for a living) and the performance per £ is just untouchable. I’m going to eventually go the Ryzen route but it’s hard to justify the upgrade when I have two great systems that cost me less than £100 all in 🤷🏻♂️
I got a X5660 (same year, 6C/12C, 2.8Ghz, slightly higher Bus speed) around 4-5 years ago for 20€ (original MSRP was like 1200 or something), paired it with an SSD and 24GB of RAM and made a server out of it. That thing can handle everything I throw at it, multiple minecraft server instances, alngside with a TS3 server, Killing Floor server, Space Engineers server, Linux VM... and still has enough grunt to spare to be used as a remote workstation with Visual Studio. The Motherboard was the trickier thing, but i got it for free from a friend (Asus Rampage II Extreme, REALLY good board). Completely new in box, the thing had a bent pin on the socket that I was able to repair after years of being unused, haha. It's been running 24/7 ever since, without a hitch.
Would you recommend waiting for the next-gen of GPUs to come out to upgrade my 1060? Either to buy the 20 series used or whatever the generation after would be called new? (This doesn't have to be answered by RGHD just want more opinions)
I see no reason to wait. any of the 2000 series or amd 5700/xt depending on your budget is a massive upgrade from your card that should last you another 4 years. Keep in mind though that if you are committed to 1080p 60 fps max, don't bother upgrading. If your monitor is old, figure on spending 250-350 also on a 144hz 1440p monitor.
I'd personally wait till the next generation, and getting a new monitor as well, if you still run 1080p @ 60hz. Your gtx 1060 is fine for that for now, as long as you are fine with medium settings. If you have money to spend, however, then an upgrade now could never hurt
This OC'd is literally all anyone needs and is super cheap if you go the right route. And I've seen other channels use Intel Extreme Tuning Utility to overclock processors with unlocked multipliers on boards that didn't have it enabled like these pre-builts.
It is good combo if u can find very cheap mobo but it is hasle , imo better combo is some cheap A350 mobo and ryzen 3 1200, it is almost same price but better cpu and plenty of upgrade path later...
@@Dagoth666Ur besides the fact that a 10 year chip is a wonky comparison to a 3 year old one, A350 mobos can't OC. No upgrade path really on that, since buying a new mobo is already quite an investment. Edit: wasn't paying attention, and neither was this idiot. A320 is the correct name of the chipset. A320 motherboards cannot OC, but B350 can.
@@mob2072 I`m not compare nothing, i just suggest what is imo better choice, new for little bit more money with warranty or old dead platform for less, it`s his choice...
@@acynicalasian So what if A350 can`t oc (some can), not everybody is ready to tamper with that and upgrade path is HUGE, all 3 generations of ryzen work without problem on every normal 350 mobo, go check if you don`t believe...
I bought a HP z400 £50 and threw in a x5670 £15 (6c/12t 2.93Ghz/3.33Ghz boost 95w) and a RX 480 4GB £75 (single 8 pin using 6>8pin adaptor) and it's a very capable gaming PC for my 14 year old, In total it cost around £150 he had a 120GB SSD from his old PC that I reused as the boot drive and a 500GB HDD for storage/games. I've since bought him a 500GB SSD for his birthday and he's very happy with it, has even played CP2077 on it
My Z400 has a W3690 and now a GTX1070 which, believe it or not, the stock power supply has no trouble running. It's mildly CPU bound and I intend to replace everything except the GPU this year, but it does well for now.
1:25 Correction you can replace the psu, thats the exact motherboard im using, while yes installing a new psu isn't plug and play like an off the shelf motherboard it can be done. Also if you get a w3670 (which runs about $16.00-$20.00 usd) it can be overclocked using throttle stop or Intel extreme tuning utility
Should I change my g7 power extreme 780 watt psu (I’ve heard they’ll blow after a while) for a lower wat branded one And if so, which should I buy please?
There's something to be said for old office PC's. Just bought a Vostro 3900 (i5- 4460) with 8Gb RAM and a 128Gb SSD for £50. Stick in a mid end GPU, an additional HDD and you have a half decent gaming PC The guy had 4 for sale, I probably should have bought all of them!
as an owner of a gaming 1366 platform I had a chance to upgrade by buying a darn cheap X5660 clocked for 2.8GHz for 11,48$ from aliexpress. It overclocks like mad, I recommend everyone to upgrade their i7 920s as it is the cheapest way possible to eliminate most of the stuttering in CPU demanding sections (for instance, I can now have a stabile 60fps experience in Forza Horizon 4 whereas at the beginning of the race I had drops to low 50s with multiple AI cars on screen) and its power demand is even lower than the 920. I will test it and try to hit at least stable 4GHz or even more. Also, E5645 has a significant disadvantage of a really low multiplier which can seriously limit your potential, so it's much better to find at least X5650.
When I upgraded my old i7-930 System to give to my son, I put in more Memory 24GB, GTX 980 Ti, Xeon x5680, and a SSD HD, with 4GB 7,200rpm HDD. Also has DVD/RW and card reader. Gaming Keyboard and Mouse, Done.
The E3-1225 V2, is an Ivy Bridge (1155/socket H) 4c/4t (like an i5-3570) xeon with intel hd 4000 graphics that turbos to 3.6 and around 4.1when overclocked for around $22. The 1245 V2 adds hyper threading (eight threads, i7-3770) and higher stock speeds ($40ish) and the 1275 V2 is clocked even higher (i7-3770k performance) but, they are quite expensive still ($100ish).
I've got a PowerEdge R510 with two of these CPUs in it. The single-threaded performance leaves something to be desired, but it's honestly not half bad in multithreaded applications even today. Certainly adequate for a NAS, though I do offload my Plex and Minecraft servers to another machine now.
I'll never buy new crappy stuff again. The old workstations I got were all so splendid, smash in a nice GPU and an SSD, maybe treat it to an RAM upgrade and there you have a great machine for a bargain price. Really love the case design on those as well. The dell Precision line is very great in that regard, so comfortable to handle compared to crappy cooler master cases and the like. Never even had to touch a screwdriver!
I was also very happy with a HuananZhi X79 Deluxe ($120) paired with an E5-4627V2 (8C/8T) that all core clocks to 3.5Ghz ($80). Uses 4 channel DDR3 R-EEC 1600 RAM just fine. This is a locked CPU, but with high clock for an IVY Bridge. It is a 1:1 core to thread ratio CPU...but damn it has some cores.
I have a Dell XPS 730x modded with Alienware BIOS I got for $38 and an entire HP Z400 workstation with a luck buy at $40. I run an X5650 in one and an X5675 in the other. I have no problems gaming on either with an RX 580. Of all my systems these are my favs for gaming.
Ah the Z400 again! Fantastic. I've done several transplant builds (and a build guide) taking that motherboard out and really glamming em up in more gamer-like builds. I'd be happy to assist with any efforts like this you might be interested in making with that system!
idk why but your reviews are relaxing to have going at night while I'm gaming. It's just a chill experience. Same feeling as i would have drinking a beer and testing stuff for fun lol. Which I do from time to time.
I have a Xeon W3680 I got for $40, it's overclocked to 4.54Ghz and it's a beast, it's paired with a GTX 1070 and 24GB triple channel 1866mhz ram. Can run Destiny 2 Max 1200p at locked 60fps, GTA mostly max settings with usually 60 dips to 50s, and Read Dead 2 Nvidia settings 60 with dips to 50s
Thanks a lot ! Those old 6c/12t CPUs are still a great thing. Just built one rig with X5675,an anX58 motherboard from Gigabyte. Runs everything , with no trouble at all. Selling it, that's another issue......
They have adapters for the z400 power supply for less than $15 online. Built one for my wife years ago with a 600 watt EVGA gold running a 780ti and a x5677. It's a pretty good 1080p medium settings machine.
an x5670 can be had for £11, a six pin connector can be shoved into an 8 pin connector and usually works fine:) Also Molex to GPU power is a thing. That 470Watt PSU is its nominal rating, it'll peak to 520 easy... :) how about a silly x5690 for £55 quid 6 cores at 3.4-3.6ghz. (still cheaper than a crazy mobo) I have a crazy G1.sniper board in box if you want it for the channel.
That CPU does limit the 1650 Super, just not a lot. Look at the very first benchmark, AC Odyssey. When the camera goes outside, the CPU usage spikes up to 90%, while the GPU usage, drops from 94-95 down to 75%. When you see that, its a clear indication that the slowdown is coming from the CPU, so the GPU can actually do better, but the CPU is slowing it down a bit. When the camera continues to move, the CPU is less loaded, so the GPU goes back up to high 90's and the framerate increases to reflect that. So in those few seconds at 3:00, we see: CPU: 58% -> 90% -> 69% GPU: 94% -> 75% -> 92% FPS: 37 -> 25 -> 33 Its clear that a CPU upgrade would help the 1650 Super a bit, especially for those 1% and 0.1% lows. Its just that this Xeon does not consistently limit the 1650, its those moments when lots of stuff has to be loaded and the CPU is hit with lots of little tasks to do, in a short period of time, that it struggles. Thats when actually fast cores make a real difference for this gfx card.
I have just bought an FX 8150 coupled with a R9 270x, both cost me less than £50 in total, runs RDR2 and Cyberpunk, Doom Eternal at a stable & over 30 fps (with 16gb DDR3 1600 DC) as well as many other titles, gaming on a budget
For £8- £10 you can pick up another socket 1366 CPU with far greater performance, namely the Intel Xeon X5650. It's Cinebench R20 scores are; single 419 multi-core 3375. It's also six cores - 12 threads with a base clock of 2.67 GHz and a Turbo around 3.0 GHz. It should also fit in the Z400.
I got 2 of these still running in an old HP Proliant ML350 G6 Server, to this day its still just my software build server, but these cpu's do their job and are impressive for how old they are
I have a 5680 running on water, at 4.0ghz, with a Rampage 2 Extreme motherboard and 12gb of Corsair Dominator DDR3. Need to upgrade the GPU, but other than that, it works great for me. I just upgraded to the Xeon from my original i7 920 about a year and a half ago. I think I got the processor for $30 USD at the time. Well worth the money.
I ran a X5680 at 4.2 GHz in my old Rampage 3 Extreme board. That was a great setup, ran awesome. Though the X chips are far more thirsty power-wise than the E chips. I didn't have a choice though, as the X58 chipset would only run the X processors. But I also run a pair of them in an rack server I have sitting off to the side that I use for running game servers. Works great for that, and they are dirt cheap. I bought it originally with a pair of X5570s, 16GB of ram, and a 60 GB 10k SAS drive for around 100 dollars. Since then, I upgraded it with the aforementioned processors, an additional 32 GB of ram, and a full suite of 120GB SAS drives. I tried throwing a graphics card in it for s**ts and giggles, but it wasn't having any of it.
I recently just put together a 10c/20t Xeon (E5-2470V2), x99 motherboard, 16GB DDR3 ECC, RX580, power supply, 1TB SSD, 2TB Firecuda, and case for $400. 80-100 FPS gamer... :)
I watched this video on my own HP Z400 with an x5650. Basically exactly the same CPU but worse power consumption. I am so looking forward to my upgrade to a Ryzen 5 later this year.
You know there are some Intel Xeon's on the 1155 socket that are quad cores that boost up to 3.4 ghz from a base speed of 3.1 ghz for under £20 :) I got a E3-1225 for £17.89p so pretty happy :)
The Xeon E5645 doesn't support the AVX instruction set. From my point of view, any CPU that doesn't support AVX is at a disadvantage. It might seem strange to focus on a particular x86 instruction set, but, like SSE2 before it, AVX is used as the 'secret sauce' in a lot of programs to increase performance. Intel and AMD didn't support the first version of AVX until their 2011 product releases.
I have a RTX 2060 and W3690 running inside Z400 with that same PSU and overclocked the CPU to 4GHz and it works just fine. CPU scores around 2000 in R20. The PSU is actually a very good, safe and reliable unit. This system is a lot better for 1440p than 1080p. at 1080p you will get CPU bottleneck so you are actually better off buying a stronger GPU for 1440p. Also make sure you have your RAM in triple channel, actually makes a 10-15 percent difference. I think it's a cool system for less than the price of a ryzen 5 1600 cpu total for everything beside my 2060. It came with 12GB of ecc RAM for me and the CPU performance is actually not that far off from that ryzren 5 1600. It is maybe 10 percent slower.
Still use a gigabyte ex58-udr3 with x5670, 12GB ram and a rx 480 8GB. Its over clocked to 4.2Ghz all core(24 multi) and hits 4.375Ghz single core(25 multi) with boost and all c states enabled. Still deserves a bit of respect
I've got a W3680 on my Z400 clocked at 4GHz. It's not as good as a X5675 at higher clock but you don't need a fancy cooler, you can just use what you are using. If someone gets a Z400 for his main PC, then it's worth it, but if it's just for a secondary gaming pc or server, then any 6/12 will do the job.
I forgot to put the figures up at the RDR2 results at the end, so here they are. My bad lol.
High/Med Settings at 1080p, AVG:54 1%:36 0.1%:31. Thanks for watching :)
RandomGaminginHD thank you love your content :)
Dont you think the cpu is bottleneck?
@@babyzoey9303 obviously lol
Who play CSO go an why tired of seeing this old ass game
@@chriswright8074 Top 5 or at worst Top 10 played game on Steam, yeah its old af but who cares
I love how you treat cheaper hardware with respect. Everything has its purpose and I hate it when people hate on cheaper specs because it isn't an i7 or 2080ti
well people still hate on the overpricedness of intel and nvidia releasing the same shit every year
@@marlon.8051 but handle it more careful
@@businessmail4929 bcs it cost them more money??? dude u sound so stupid.. and the original comment ofc
@@sartuc9637 yep and you sound like albert einstein. not. what a freak.
I have seen a lot more hate on high end components than on low end ones...
That performance was surprising good for an old Xeon
"... at 1080p, a resolution I've stuck firmly to in today's tests"
- RandomGaminginFullHD
Quite legendary standard
@@AdventFuentes 1080p will die off though, sooner or later 1440p will be so cheap why not get 1440p yknow
@@iiiiii7680 not saying I don't agree, but 720 and 1366 are still more common then 1440p so I think it's gonna e a long time. 1080p has been so cheap that 720 and 1366 shouldn't be common by that train of thought but still are none the less
@@jaykoerner my 2nd monitor is 768x1366 it was just a super cheap one I've had for like 5 years
Same, but its just cuz my secondary 1080p quit 2 weeks back
I just dumpster-dived the exact same Z400 workstation with 16GB, Quadro FX 1800 and two Intel 120GB SSD :)
stonks
my guy where do you do that at lmao
@@danielsxboxlive2764 At my work. IT throws out complete PCs all the time!
How the fuck do people find random cast out PCs with decent hardware like this
Why don’t they recycle?
NOTE: Removing Denuvo DRM from AC will completely wipe any frametime lag spikes from lesser configs like these. Please like it so people can see this.
It has been proven that Denuvo does't effect performance at all. If it does it only effect only a minor amount. So stop posting misinformation.
@@Fender178 This is not misinformation, look at the bottom right side graph, see those crazy spikes? Those spikes cause input lag / frametime lag which impacts gameplay directly. Also, loading times without denuvo are reduced by literally 100% or more. In less powered chips, denuvo causes the most impact, the chip in the video is a very old chip, so it only makes sense that things would get better without the DRM.
@@raized943 You don't know if its from Denuvo it can be from the Spectre and Meltdown vulnerabilities that Intel patched for their CPUs as well. The Spectre and Meltdown patches really effected performance as well especially for older CPUs.
@@Fender178
Please refer to this video for tests:
ua-cam.com/video/YnSavmI3knQ/v-deo.html
In some games Denuvo absolutely destroys frametimes and loading times in the main menu. And in others, Denuvo does have an impact on Frames per Second, which isn't the case for AC specifically. Still, in no instances removing Denuvo made the game worse by any margin, apart from one, which was only a maximum frametime spike on a single game that did not have a benchmarking tool meaning minimum / maximum frametimes couldn't be measured consistently, but average frametime could, and in that regard, the no Denuvo build won.
@@Fender178 Denuvo can have all sorts of negative effects depending on how it's implemented.
1$ for 1 core - seems fair
last time i was this early, my mom had to get a c-section
anyway, seems like a lot of these old Xeons drop really low after a few years.
Dilet the Thunderbolt Pilot aw man lucky you i was late
They certainly do. I'm using a similarly performing E5-4620 I got on ebay in a Dell T3600 for $100. A little bit of tinkering later I got a bootable NVMe setup running (no thanks to Clover Boot). Absolutely worth the money.
because of the life they might have had, they could have been installed into a server day one and spent the last 10 years running, could be 80k+ hours on the chip and near the end of its life, so even though performance wise they are a great deal you have to be aware you will probably be the last owner of the chip, though at $10 cost you cant complain having to replace it once a year if they do burn out or stop being able to run games.
If you've got the right board, the Trickle-down economy can be a great thing
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trickle-down_economics
@@shroomzgames7370 It's very rare for a CPU to die of old age. The only use-related point of failure would be if the CPU manufacturer used thermal paste instead of soldering the chip to the IHS. Intel did that to their consumer CPUs from 2012 to 2018, but they've never done that to server CPUs.
Just found this channel. Can't get enough of it. It really scratches that itch I have since being a teenager and dreaming for the best pc.
România :))
Mine would be probably and older i7 like the 6 core 12 threaded 980 or 990X maybe a xeon x3440 or something like that and then 4 GTX465 in quad sli with the possibility to stack Vram.( I have a single 465 and it does a 33% overclock actually a bit higher its probably like 35 something but its amazing). Also still runs everygame in a playable experience)
And then just 32GB of +/- 2900mhz DDR3 ram.
It's gonna be really loud but I think it's kinda funny that it's that loud.
And yeah then just a nice looking case and other obvious parts.
@@hanscrou8733 yeah you can overclock the ram to thosr speeds. The best default ones start at like 2400mhz
"Use Conditions: Communications"
Transistors talking to eachother in binary?
Well they kinda do.
technically yeah.
your pfp confuses me. half mirrors edge 2? mirrors life 2?
I love your garden, looks so peaceful :D
I feel that too ;)
Same
Yeah I'd love to live there, as opposed to living with a bunch of assholes that hate me.
Reminds me of those happy Gilmore dream state scene's
@@morpheas768 rip homie.
Exactly the type of content I subbed for 4 years ago! Great video!!
I have been hunting a cheap X58 motherboard from quite sometime but still no luck!
Edit: Thanks for all the recommendations guys. The problem is old servers like supermicros or dell (likeT3500) or HP (like z400) are too expensive somewhere in between 200 to 350USD in some cases.
I know about those Chinese brands but the problem is I want to build this PC to learn softwares like Unreal Engine4, 3ds max, SketchUp, Vray etc.
So this pc will be running at 100% load for dozens of hours.
Have you tried what he recommends in the video? Looking for a pre-built with the same motherboard might be a better option than directly looking for the board itself.
@@MechanicalDoll old prebuilt systems are just too expensive here in India around 200-300 USD
You can find chinese brand New x58 motherboard on Aliexpress or ebay
Look for old MSI boards, they go the cheapest, got 2 x58 pro E boards for $100
I'd recommend a 120.00 usd motherboard. I'd also recommend an X5650 at least with a 5.0ghz overclock. Unfortunately with these 1366 motherboards, you pay for what you get. An OEM mobo just isn't worth it considering you get 9600k or 9700k performance from the X series 1366 Xeons with an overclock.
Also you need a minimum of 16gb of ram. For some reason the ddr3 ram on current titles need more gb to keep up with ddr4, at least with game performance. 16gb 1866 or 1600mhz ddr3 ram is equivalent to 8gb of 2133mhz ddr4.
1:34 made me think my computer froze
I came not my proudest fap
bruh
@@thealien_ali3382 bruh
@@thealien_ali3382 wtf you talking about
i love xeons. i have a e5-1650v2 i got for 60$ in my wifes pc. runs awesome on a x79 turbo plex hd from wish for 70$ overclocks really good with quad ch 1866 ram 32gb for 50$
What clock? 4.1? Higher?
That must've been an excellent deal!
@@Adam130694 On those Chinese boards you usually top out at ~4.0-4.1GHz (maybe 4.2GHz if you have an exceptional chip), as you can't adjust the voltage at all. With a better board you can crank them up to ~4.5-4.6GHz if you get a good chip, though they're extremely power-hungry at that point. My eight-core 1680 v2 pulled well over 200W on its own at 4.5GHz. The six core ones like the 1650 v2 will obviously be a little less than that.
@@CaptainKenway That was my Q, what's your speed.
@@Adam130694 4.1 stable
Love old builds like these! I myself have an E5-2667v2 CPU pair I built almost two years ago. Got the MB with 128gb of RAM. 16 cores, 32 threads. I have a 1070ti in it and I can't see upgrading for years to come.
I am always happy when i see vids with the Z400 involved. You have just confirmed an idea i had will work as i was looking at the 1650 for my Z400. Plus now a 6 core cpu that is better priced then the 6 cores that Greenpcgaming recommended for this machine as well. Win win!
The 1650 is not compatible with the Z400 !!! Z400 is X58 chipset, 1650 is x79 !!!
My PC almost broke cuz of the power supply lol
The best thing to do with these Z400's is to stick a W3680/90 in it as you can overclock it with Throttlestop - those particular Xeons have unlocked multipliers and can hit roughly 4Ghz on the Z400 board (as long as it is the 6 RAM slot v2 board).
Buy yourself a 15 GBP X5670 from Ali, oc to 4,2 Ghz and you basically have yourself a Ryzen 1600 (minus some recent instruction sets). Even my GTX 970 is holding this chip back in gaming...
There is also X5675
W3680 and W3690 have unlocked multiplier (OC on all boards via XTU)
actually the best way to get these boards brand new is from ali express. theres chinese companies that sell them for around 50 dollars brand new and they support over clocking.
Are they mainland Chinese brands or brands better known in the west? e.g., Asus, etc.? I don't care either way, just curious.
@@jaber5345 Cool man, thanks. I do some budget builds from time to time, I like to tinker and squeeze the most performance for games out of older systems (I have to, my budget is typically $0 to $50 :P ) so that is of interest to me.
@@thedungeondelver YesYechCity and others do a lot of builds with them.They are actually pretty decent boards
I really need to find out if my X58 Sabertooth still works, I need to sell that, I need money.
I just replaced my i7 920 and replaced it with xeon x5670 clocked to 4ghz
920 Finally kicked huh? I had mine for almost 10 years. A workhorse of a CPU.
I've had a Xeon X5670 @ 4.4GHz since 2016. Before that I had an i7-950 and i7-920
@@Krappadizzle no still working
@@QuadcopterAnalyze1980 I'm going from a 920 to an x5675 as soon as it ships
This makes me feel good. I got a Dell workstation with this CPU, 12 GB of RAM, and two Nvidio Quadro 4000 GPU's for free. I just had to install a new hard drive.
Interesting. I once had a Dell workstation with this CPU, 12GB of RAM and two Nvidia Quadro 4000 GPU's and one day I took a break while replacing the hard drive and someone stole it.
@@JustAGuy85 lol. You lie. That thing is way too heavy to make a clean getaway with.
you can get a board on aliexpress and overclock it for about 50 usd
I have been waiting for you to review these bad guys for some years
Socket 1366, nice!
W3690 owner here, running OC'd w/ 12gb ram and a 2080ti 🤙🏼
Currently using a W3565 CPU, but upgrading to a X5677. May not by 6 cores, but at 3.47 GHz I think it will do pretty well.
Would love to see how it performs with an OC, so if you'd ever consider "investing" in a OC compatible MB for this chip I'd watch that video.
I doubt it would be worth it. A 20% improvement from overclocking is considered huge, very difficult to achieve, an absolute best case scenario. Even with a 20% improvement this CPU would still be very poor single thread. You would be better off buying an i7 920 for a short term upgrade, or saving up for an entry level Ryzen (preferably with a B450 chipset, the cheaper chipsets cripple the performance of Ryzen noticably).
@@lobsterbark if you are going to save up you might as well get a x570 chipset that way you can upgrade the CPU in the future for a better one (zen3 are compatible with x570 but not with b450)
Ayyyy x58 gang!!! 4.5ghz x5675 running strong
I got dual x5675’s by far the best value westmere chips. Doubles the performance stock than the e5645 for like 10 more bucks.
I use two Xeon 5680s on my daily driver Mac Pro. Granted their 3.3Ghz clock is a lot higher but they still run all my daily needs including software development, photo and light video editing no problem. For $40 chips they run great and roughly on par with my 4770. Paired with an RX 580 the performance is great.
The idea of an old workstation PC is great to reduce costs and the performance of these Xeons is great for the price compared to the consumer chips.
Just finished an X5670 build on a Gigabyte MB. Clocked it to 4.2 GHz, used the triple channel memory with 18GB (don't ask). Gtx 980. It bloody flies and cost £300 all up. Great video, I love your channel.
The problem with these older workstation/Xeon builds is not necessarily the performance, but the power consumption. You're better off buying something newer. Especially if you pay a lot per kilowatt hour.
@@jorts900 it's a fair comment and I'll try a Ryzen build soon, but I like used price/performance and electricity is of moderate cost where I am.
i have my x5670 running 24/7 @ 4.4ghz and it benches very close to a ryzen 1600 (original one)
anything past a 1050ti/1060 you'll end up seeing a bottleneck with the CPU in most CPU bound applications, I own an X58 and 6core xeon @4.3ghz
@@mmaayyssoonn8858 meh i wouldn't care much at least it runs better then most cpu's nowadays.
admittedly with a lot higher power consumption
@@mmaayyssoonn8858 yeah i hear that i have a 1070ti and a 1080ti here and have tested them both in most of the games i actually play there is very little difference in most games i have. anno shows the bottleneck badly tho so yeah its limited life tech but hey for the price its still a great little computer.
Same. I've had my overclocked X5670 running almost 24/7 since 2016. My current uptime is over 93 days
iv got a server running two of these, still pretty good chips.
Thanks for the video. I appreciate folks who try to bring old tech into the current day. 👍
You can overclock Xeon W3680 and W3690 on the HP Z400 Workstation. And for X58 systems I'd recommend using RAM in triple channel for example 12GB (3x4GB or 6x2GB), 24GB (3x8GB or 6x4GB) or 48GB (6x8GB)
X58 gangsta squad loggin' in!
Replaced my i7 920 with a similar xeon chip. Ocd to 3.8 ghz. My son is still using it with an rx580
Oh yeah, I very well remember those ruins...my Gtx 880M had a really hard time there!
I have a HP Z600. Modified the PSU (read opened and soldered) to have an extra 6 pin. Even with a larger PSU the Z600 still only comes with a single 6 pin.
For the CPUs I grabbed two X5670 because I wanted the extra core speed, esp when under single threads the Turbo refuses to kick in.
For the GPU I have a 980.
It's shocking how well it holds up for gaming and while not power efficient these days it's still good for content creation thanks to 12 cores 24 thread.
Oh and RAM, 24 gigs came in the box.
I got the workstation a while ago and it's still going strong.
If you want to have a look for your channel I'm sure that can be arranged.
My previous PC is an X58 system running an i7-930. It's now serving as my NAS/HTPC in my living room but i can't see myself running it 24/7. With a 6 core xeon running at lower clocks and voltage, i could see myself doing it.
Problem with X58 is that it's so old, your PCI Express slot is running at PCIe 2.0 speeds, so newer GPUS will are definitely not getting its full usage.
It also doesn't have USB 3.0 support, so you'll need an extra PCIe internal card for that.
And lastly, as RGHD said, he was using 8gb of RAM but the X58 platform uses TRIPLE CHANNEL memory, which is not normally acheivable to get 8gb of ram normally. You'd want 3x4gb of ram for a total of 12gb or 3x8gb for 24gb.
To get 8gb of ram means you'd either put in 2x4gb sticks intead of 3 (which will affect performance, especially 1% and 0.1%) or 4gb+2gb+2gb, which is not ideal either.
Would love to see you do a review of the x5690. I run a pair of them and they are fantastic for almost any work load. hitting 3.7Ghz boost they are great for both single and multi core applications.
Yes, these chips are awesome. Even now, I haven't even considered upgrading to a new platform. All my machines are Dual X Series Xeons.
You should try the chinese mobos, particularly the huananzhi x79 deluxe, comparable to a gigabyte x79 in quality
sure if you like to have the chinese government spy on you every time you connect your motherboard to the internet
@@soniablanche5672 you are possibly right, but so far I havent seen complaints from the russian users or channels, so I dont know
Figured this would of been a LGA 2011 build. Just happened to put one together for $250! Love how cheap the ECC ram is.
All the cool kids have x99 systems now, get with the times grandpa
I fu*king love Xeons! Got an e3-1240v2 in my office rig and an e3-1220v2 in my home theatre PC
I built both systems with parts that cost me virtually nothing (I do this sh*t for a living) and the performance per £ is just untouchable. I’m going to eventually go the Ryzen route but it’s hard to justify the upgrade when I have two great systems that cost me less than £100 all in 🤷🏻♂️
From what I remember of hardware at the time £550 sounds like a great deal for a 6 core 12 thread cpu back then
please bring back testing RUST in these videos, thanks you
I own 2 of these, they are about the same single core perf as a bulldozer, they go nice in my IBM x3650m3
I got a X5660 (same year, 6C/12C, 2.8Ghz, slightly higher Bus speed) around 4-5 years ago for 20€ (original MSRP was like 1200 or something), paired it with an SSD and 24GB of RAM and made a server out of it. That thing can handle everything I throw at it, multiple minecraft server instances, alngside with a TS3 server, Killing Floor server, Space Engineers server, Linux VM... and still has enough grunt to spare to be used as a remote workstation with Visual Studio. The Motherboard was the trickier thing, but i got it for free from a friend (Asus Rampage II Extreme, REALLY good board). Completely new in box, the thing had a bent pin on the socket that I was able to repair after years of being unused, haha. It's been running 24/7 ever since, without a hitch.
When’s rygr? Hoping I got in
With that profile picture you will get in for sure
The winner 4x ikr😂
Hoping here too
it's reviewing your gaming rigs
kind of like bitwit's worst pc setup videos.
@@bananya6020 it was my idea 😀
Would you recommend waiting for the next-gen of GPUs to come out to upgrade my 1060? Either to buy the 20 series used or whatever the generation after would be called new? (This doesn't have to be answered by RGHD just want more opinions)
I see no reason to wait. any of the 2000 series or amd 5700/xt depending on your budget is a massive upgrade from your card that should last you another 4 years. Keep in mind though that if you are committed to 1080p 60 fps max, don't bother upgrading. If your monitor is old, figure on spending 250-350 also on a 144hz 1440p monitor.
I'd personally wait till the next generation, and getting a new monitor as well, if you still run 1080p @ 60hz. Your gtx 1060 is fine for that for now, as long as you are fine with medium settings. If you have money to spend, however, then an upgrade now could never hurt
@@luukvanoijen7082 I'm also going to be saving up for a 1440p monitor as well ^^
@@mrmangbro6842 nice!
This OC'd is literally all anyone needs and is super cheap if you go the right route. And I've seen other channels use Intel Extreme Tuning Utility to overclock processors with unlocked multipliers on boards that didn't have it enabled like these pre-builts.
Pleasurable and informative to watch, always. Great work!
I was looking for specs for my bro its sounds good with this card
It is good combo if u can find very cheap mobo but it is hasle , imo better combo is some cheap A350 mobo and ryzen 3 1200, it is almost same price but better cpu and plenty of upgrade path later...
@@Dagoth666Ur Bro. You are missunderstanding Something. Thats a 7 euro cpu you cant compare that to a ryzen .
@@Dagoth666Ur besides the fact that a 10 year chip is a wonky comparison to a 3 year old one, A350 mobos can't OC. No upgrade path really on that, since buying a new mobo is already quite an investment.
Edit: wasn't paying attention, and neither was this idiot. A320 is the correct name of the chipset. A320 motherboards cannot OC, but B350 can.
@@mob2072 I`m not compare nothing, i just suggest what is imo better choice, new for little bit more money with warranty or old dead platform for less, it`s his choice...
@@acynicalasian So what if A350 can`t oc (some can), not everybody is ready to tamper with that and upgrade path is HUGE, all 3 generations of ryzen work without problem on every normal 350 mobo, go check if you don`t believe...
I've got a beautiful Alienware machine you'll love for RYGR... 😎
I bought a HP z400 £50 and threw in a x5670 £15 (6c/12t 2.93Ghz/3.33Ghz boost 95w) and a RX 480 4GB £75 (single 8 pin using 6>8pin adaptor) and it's a very capable gaming PC for my 14 year old, In total it cost around £150 he had a 120GB SSD from his old PC that I reused as the boot drive and a 500GB HDD for storage/games. I've since bought him a 500GB SSD for his birthday and he's very happy with it, has even played CP2077 on it
I just got some 4 year old dell inspiron and it’s a beast with the xeon
Been watching random gaming in hd for years lol
Whenever RGinHD uploads new vid, I click.
My Z400 has a W3690 and now a GTX1070 which, believe it or not, the stock power supply has no trouble running. It's mildly CPU bound and I intend to replace everything except the GPU this year, but it does well for now.
1:25 Correction you can replace the psu, thats the exact motherboard im using, while yes installing a new psu isn't plug and play like an off the shelf motherboard it can be done. Also if you get a w3670 (which runs about $16.00-$20.00 usd) it can be overclocked using throttle stop or Intel extreme tuning utility
Should I change my g7 power extreme 780 watt psu (I’ve heard they’ll blow after a while) for a lower wat branded one
And if so, which should I buy please?
bequiet or corsair
There's something to be said for old office PC's. Just bought a Vostro 3900 (i5- 4460) with 8Gb RAM and a 128Gb SSD for £50. Stick in a mid end GPU, an additional HDD and you have a half decent gaming PC
The guy had 4 for sale, I probably should have bought all of them!
as an owner of a gaming 1366 platform I had a chance to upgrade by buying a darn cheap X5660 clocked for 2.8GHz for 11,48$ from aliexpress. It overclocks like mad, I recommend everyone to upgrade their i7 920s as it is the cheapest way possible to eliminate most of the stuttering in CPU demanding sections (for instance, I can now have a stabile 60fps experience in Forza Horizon 4 whereas at the beginning of the race I had drops to low 50s with multiple AI cars on screen) and its power demand is even lower than the 920. I will test it and try to hit at least stable 4GHz or even more.
Also, E5645 has a significant disadvantage of a really low multiplier which can seriously limit your potential, so it's much better to find at least X5650.
I use the Z400 with a Xeon W3690. Fastest chip you can get on that motherboard socket. Still works wonders and is an absolute beast.
Got exact same system working with X5650 12GB of ram, 500GB of HDD and RX 480 Nitro+ 8GB, with that stock 475 Watt psu, and resold that for 300$ :)
When I upgraded my old i7-930 System to give to my son, I put in more Memory 24GB, GTX 980 Ti, Xeon x5680, and a SSD HD, with 4GB 7,200rpm HDD. Also has DVD/RW and card reader. Gaming Keyboard and Mouse, Done.
What is a SSD HD and why does it does it only have 4gb of storage?
The E3-1225 V2, is an Ivy Bridge (1155/socket H) 4c/4t (like an i5-3570) xeon with intel hd 4000 graphics that turbos to 3.6 and around 4.1when overclocked for around $22. The 1245 V2 adds hyper threading (eight threads, i7-3770) and higher stock speeds ($40ish) and the 1275 V2 is clocked even higher (i7-3770k performance) but, they are quite expensive still ($100ish).
I've got a PowerEdge R510 with two of these CPUs in it. The single-threaded performance leaves something to be desired, but it's honestly not half bad in multithreaded applications even today. Certainly adequate for a NAS, though I do offload my Plex and Minecraft servers to another machine now.
I'll never buy new crappy stuff again. The old workstations I got were all so splendid, smash in a nice GPU and an SSD, maybe treat it to an RAM upgrade and there you have a great machine for a bargain price. Really love the case design on those as well. The dell Precision line is very great in that regard, so comfortable to handle compared to crappy cooler master cases and the like. Never even had to touch a screwdriver!
I used a GTX 1070 in a Z400 (using a 6 to 8 pin adapter) with no problem. The power supply was never an issue. I'd stick to
I was also very happy with a HuananZhi X79 Deluxe ($120) paired with an E5-4627V2 (8C/8T) that all core clocks to 3.5Ghz ($80). Uses 4 channel DDR3 R-EEC 1600 RAM just fine. This is a locked CPU, but with high clock for an IVY Bridge. It is a 1:1 core to thread ratio CPU...but damn it has some cores.
I have a Dell XPS 730x modded with Alienware BIOS I got for $38 and an entire HP Z400 workstation with a luck buy at $40. I run an X5650 in one and an X5675 in the other. I have no problems gaming on either with an RX 580. Of all my systems these are my favs for gaming.
Ah the Z400 again! Fantastic. I've done several transplant builds (and a build guide) taking that motherboard out and really glamming em up in more gamer-like builds. I'd be happy to assist with any efforts like this you might be interested in making with that system!
idk why but your reviews are relaxing to have going at night while I'm gaming. It's just a chill experience. Same feeling as i would have drinking a beer and testing stuff for fun lol. Which I do from time to time.
I have a Xeon W3680 I got for $40, it's overclocked to 4.54Ghz and it's a beast, it's paired with a GTX 1070 and 24GB triple channel 1866mhz ram. Can run Destiny 2 Max 1200p at locked 60fps, GTA mostly max settings with usually 60 dips to 50s, and Read Dead 2 Nvidia settings 60 with dips to 50s
Thanks a lot !
Those old 6c/12t CPUs are still a great thing.
Just built one rig with X5675,an anX58 motherboard from Gigabyte.
Runs everything , with no trouble at all.
Selling it, that's another issue......
Like others have said, I also like how you treat even the oldest hardware with respect
They have adapters for the z400 power supply for less than $15 online. Built one for my wife years ago with a 600 watt EVGA gold running a 780ti and a x5677. It's a pretty good 1080p medium settings machine.
Great video!
The PSU in the Z400 is actually physically bigger than standard ATX PSUs, so you'll also need some type of mounting bracket
an x5670 can be had for £11, a six pin connector can be shoved into an 8 pin connector and usually works fine:) Also Molex to GPU power is a thing. That 470Watt PSU is its nominal rating, it'll peak to 520 easy... :) how about a silly x5690 for £55 quid 6 cores at 3.4-3.6ghz. (still cheaper than a crazy mobo) I have a crazy G1.sniper board in box if you want it for the channel.
There was quite the leap from the first gen to second gen core series. The consumer version of this chip was released after sandybridge too.
I have a Dell T3500 as my main DAW rig, X58 still going strong. I just picked up T1650 for next to nothing too, great system.
That CPU does limit the 1650 Super, just not a lot.
Look at the very first benchmark, AC Odyssey. When the camera goes outside, the CPU usage spikes up to 90%, while the GPU usage, drops from 94-95 down to 75%. When you see that, its a clear indication that the slowdown is coming from the CPU, so the GPU can actually do better, but the CPU is slowing it down a bit.
When the camera continues to move, the CPU is less loaded, so the GPU goes back up to high 90's and the framerate increases to reflect that.
So in those few seconds at 3:00, we see:
CPU: 58% -> 90% -> 69%
GPU: 94% -> 75% -> 92%
FPS: 37 -> 25 -> 33
Its clear that a CPU upgrade would help the 1650 Super a bit, especially for those 1% and 0.1% lows.
Its just that this Xeon does not consistently limit the 1650, its those moments when lots of stuff has to be loaded and the CPU is hit with lots of little tasks to do, in a short period of time, that it struggles.
Thats when actually fast cores make a real difference for this gfx card.
I have just bought an FX 8150 coupled with a R9 270x, both cost me less than £50 in total, runs RDR2 and Cyberpunk, Doom Eternal at a stable & over 30 fps (with 16gb DDR3 1600 DC) as well as many other titles, gaming on a budget
For £8- £10 you can pick up another socket 1366 CPU with far greater performance, namely the Intel Xeon X5650. It's Cinebench R20 scores are; single 419 multi-core 3375. It's also six cores - 12 threads with a base clock of 2.67 GHz and a Turbo around 3.0 GHz.
It should also fit in the Z400.
I got 2 of these still running in an old HP Proliant ML350 G6 Server, to this day its still just my software build server, but these cpu's do their job and are impressive for how old they are
I have a 5680 running on water, at 4.0ghz, with a Rampage 2 Extreme motherboard and 12gb of Corsair Dominator DDR3. Need to upgrade the GPU, but other than that, it works great for me. I just upgraded to the Xeon from my original i7 920 about a year and a half ago. I think I got the processor for $30 USD at the time. Well worth the money.
I ran a X5680 at 4.2 GHz in my old Rampage 3 Extreme board. That was a great setup, ran awesome. Though the X chips are far more thirsty power-wise than the E chips. I didn't have a choice though, as the X58 chipset would only run the X processors. But I also run a pair of them in an rack server I have sitting off to the side that I use for running game servers. Works great for that, and they are dirt cheap. I bought it originally with a pair of X5570s, 16GB of ram, and a 60 GB 10k SAS drive for around 100 dollars. Since then, I upgraded it with the aforementioned processors, an additional 32 GB of ram, and a full suite of 120GB SAS drives. I tried throwing a graphics card in it for s**ts and giggles, but it wasn't having any of it.
I recently just put together a 10c/20t Xeon (E5-2470V2), x99 motherboard, 16GB DDR3 ECC, RX580, power supply, 1TB SSD, 2TB Firecuda, and case for $400. 80-100 FPS gamer... :)
Great video as always! This CPU is cheap, but here in America, I can't find a complete PC with one in it for less then $139.
Thanks for covering server CPU's
I went for
20$ x5675
30$ 16gb ram stick
40$ motherboard
already had 750ti case psu ssds.
I never looked at highpriced new parts since then.
RGHD: its 10$
Anyone in my country: with cheese Mr.Squidward with *Cheese*
I watched this video on my own HP Z400 with an x5650. Basically exactly the same CPU but worse power consumption. I am so looking forward to my upgrade to a Ryzen 5 later this year.
You know there are some Intel Xeon's on the 1155 socket that are quad cores that boost up to 3.4 ghz from a base speed of 3.1 ghz for under £20 :) I got a E3-1225 for £17.89p so pretty happy :)
The Xeon E5645 doesn't support the AVX instruction set. From my point of view, any CPU that doesn't support AVX is at a disadvantage. It might seem strange to focus on a particular x86 instruction set, but, like SSE2 before it, AVX is used as the 'secret sauce' in a lot of programs to increase performance. Intel and AMD didn't support the first version of AVX until their 2011 product releases.
I have a RTX 2060 and W3690 running inside Z400 with that same PSU and overclocked the CPU to 4GHz and it works just fine. CPU scores around 2000 in R20.
The PSU is actually a very good, safe and reliable unit. This system is a lot better for 1440p than 1080p. at 1080p you will get CPU bottleneck so you are actually better off buying a stronger GPU for 1440p. Also make sure you have your RAM in triple channel, actually makes a 10-15 percent difference. I think it's a cool system for less than the price of a ryzen 5 1600 cpu total for everything beside my 2060. It came with 12GB of ecc RAM for me and the CPU performance is actually not that far off from that ryzren 5 1600. It is maybe 10 percent slower.
Still use a gigabyte ex58-udr3 with x5670, 12GB ram and a rx 480 8GB. Its over clocked to 4.2Ghz all core(24 multi) and hits 4.375Ghz single core(25 multi) with boost and all c states enabled. Still deserves a bit of respect
I've got a W3680 on my Z400 clocked at 4GHz. It's not as good as a X5675 at higher clock but you don't need a fancy cooler, you can just use what you are using.
If someone gets a Z400 for his main PC, then it's worth it, but if it's just for a secondary gaming pc or server, then any 6/12 will do the job.
Been watching all your videos since I came across your page. Really great stuff bud. Keep it up.