May 24th, 2024 Question Timestamps: ------------------------------------------ 1:36 - In the most entertaining way possible, Knuckles has discovered that his parents....Are Tikal and Chaos! How does the red Echidna react to this revelation? Would anyone else have any fun reactions to this discovery? 3:47 - Surge gets tired of finding too many stories and movies where the hero wins, so she’s taking matters into her own hands: She decides to make her own comic. How does it go? 4:27 - Starline's isekai adventures continue! Starline finds himself in Mass Effect 2's Omega station. How does he handle a universe where the tech level is above his own? Does he team up with the Eclipse merc gang and their army of disposable robots? Does he seek out the Collectors to try and make a deal with them? What are his feelings on Dr. Mordin Solus? What does he wind up doing that breaks Omega's one rule and how do Aria's enforcers send him off to his next adventure as a result? If this is too many questions wrapped up into one, take them more as idea generating prompts and roll with whatever one sparks your interest or go a totally different way with it. 6:44 - One of the most interesting parts of AoStH Sonic's characterization is that he was a bit of a flirt (and unlike Sonic Bravo, his flirting actually worked most of the time). So, how would Rouge, Blaze, Whisper, Lanolin, and Jewel react to him flirting with them? 7:32 - Does Heavy King take a smoking break when he's not yelling at his troops? My personal head cannon is that off screen he acts like a tired cranky old man usually reading hot oil magazines and yelling for another beer. 7:55 - In honor of April fools (so, happy May to early June by the time you get to this, depending on how your schedule works out), I’m going with a spin off of my “boom hedgehog family is friends with Eggman” question. For a prank, boom Eggman and Boom Jules manage to convince Sonic that Jules has really always been a robot made by eggman. Bernie and Chuck help by gaslighting Sonic into thinking his mom had him via a nameless donor, Chuck is actually his mom’s brother, he just imagined the early Jules memories before he was roboticized, and that because Jules married Bernie, technically, eggman is legally Sonic’s grandfather (and thus, his middle name is actually Ivo, they lied to hide it from him “until he was ready to know”). How does Sonic react to this new, horrible, horrible, realization, does Bernie make him have any bonding time with good ol’ Papaw Eggy and Uncles Orbot and Cubot, and which one of the 4 finally breaks and lets Sonic know it’s a prank after awhile? 11:00 - Does Shadow need to say "Chaos Control" in order to make it work? Or could he just say anything random to confuse the heck out of people? 12:33 - I read a book exploring its own consept of magic. They reference entropy and how energy must always reach its end. A law magic brakes. Does that mean that the Chaos Emeralds infinite energy is magic? 13:10 - Sally Acorn and Lanolin have an interdimension/intercontinuity brunch. What kind of things do they talk about? (For ease of 'why would they be there', we can say it's a mix of diplomacy and free coffee) *(**14:42** - CATCATCATCATCATCATCATCATCATCATCATCAT)* 15:20 - I heard from my friend that Maw [Thylacine] was going to be the one to come up with the zombot virus from IDW cause he was the only one of the Eggboss who actually agreed with Eggman being the ruler of the world. But it got canceled but the story was made in place using Starline to carry the whole robotizing everyone mess out. My question has kinda something to do with this and kinda doesn't i think? but my baseline question is: "Where was Maw's story going to go if the comic didn't get cancled? like what was he going to do had the archie comic not be canceled [...]." 17:51 - Alas, Sonic Bravo is dead and we must pull an 06 to resurrect him. How would Amy, Shadow, and Surge react to having to kiss and how would Sonic Bravo react to being kissed by them? 20:25 - To give you a break from all the shipping questions, let's go to your third-least favorite subject (after shipping and timeline questions): Redemption arcs! If you were tasked with it, how would you redeem Mimic? And no, you can't say he's irredeemable, because other characters have done worse and redeemed themselves. Need I mention Darth Vader and Nebula? 24:37 - On the fourth island in Sonic Frontiers, Tails, Amy and Knuckles all willingly returned to Cyberspace to heal Sonic of his cyber corruption. But what if they’d been unable to return to Cyberspace, and instead the three of them had been the ones to gather the Chaos Emeralds on the final island while Sonic just stood around at the top of that tower like a big glowy doorstop? How different would the story have been without Sonic able to help them defeat The End? 27:15 - Ian, you’re wrong. Sonic was not holding back during his fight with Tails in House of Cards. At least not in the latter half of the fight. He literally says “If you won’t pull any punches, then neither will I!” That completely contradicts what you said before about Sonic pulling his punches. What do you have to say in your defense? Keep in mind that you are under oath. 28:09 - What if instead of Sonic running by to save Tails from the bullies back in Sonic 2, Tails was instead saved by Big the Cat? How does Tails's life play out differently as Big the Cat's sidekick? *(Kyle was correct as heck. This question was also asked on the December 4th 2023 episode at **5:45**)* 29:07 - Ian, I ask of you but one thing: to rewrite the famous ""You might know everything I'm going to do"" line as if Omega was the one saying it. Bonus points if you can somehow add the sounds of a printer jamming into the speech" ------------------------------------------ 29:46 - Ad break! *(The rest of the questions are in the replies)*
The rest of the questions: ------------------------------------------ 30:42 - It’s the Olympics in the Stone Age! (Don’t ask how that’s possible.) And in said Olympics, the ancestors of Sonic and Mario are competing against each other. Who will take home the gold-painted stone medal? Will it be Son-ugh the Boghog or Mario’s GRAND DAD? *(Ian Flynn old)* 35:29 - The reason for Shadow’s powers is because Black Doom donated his blood to him, right? Well.. what if the Black comet got destroyed before it ever arrived, so instead of asking Black Doom for help, Gerald ends up asking Mother wisp for help instead. Donating wisp blood instead. How different is Shadow and how does the events of his game play out now? 36:58 - Describe how Sonic Satam would play out with the Chaos Council as main antagonists. 38:15 - father death but later, it’s implied that she intends to manipulate him and him for her own gain until she either backstabs or just simply tries to dispose of him when she gets what she wants. I also have the same question for IDW, when after Knuckles gets cured, he finds her on top of the Master Emerald as if she was concerned more about it than him. 39:50 - Is Black Doom just three wisps in a trench coat, four counting his eye? 40:40 - If Sage didn't draw Sonic's attention at the beginning of the final horizons dlc, what was Sonic gonna do to Eggaman after that little comment about the power of friendship? 41:20 - Alternate timeline: what if Storm had joined Team Sonic and Knuckles had joined the Babylon Rogues? How would they get along with their teammates? 43:35 - There comes a time where every Man and Boy must make a decision that'll decide who they'll be for the rest of their life. I am here to see what decision you two have made... Would you Rather do the Kamehameha or the Super Hadoken? 44:04 - Something that's been repeatedly talked about on this podcast is how characters and stories can be interpreted wildly differently among people. Things like the meaning of Black Knight's story, Eggman Nega's characterization, Amy's Adventure-era behavior, etc. Heck, I and many others interpreted (pre-Final Horizons) Sage as having turned away from villainy entirely towards the end of Frontiers, whereas you stated that was very much not the intent for her character. When you're writing a story, Sonic or otherwise, do you ever try to consider these alternate interpretations of characters/stories that you do not share? Why or why not? I don't think there's a wrong answer, because ultimately, everyone having their own interpretations of the stories is inevitable and a part of being human. 46:26 - I’m working on the script for a graphic novel, and I decided to have the main character narrate the story. I got the first couple of pages done and I showed a friend of mine what I had. They said that while 1st person storytelling isn’t a bad method, there are a couple things that could trip me up later down the line. For example, there can’t be any scenes that don’t involve the main character, IE secret meetings between villains, the narrator can’t be surprised by twists because they already know what happens etc. They also said that you shouldn’t use a first-person format just to use it, and that there should be a greater reason as to why the narrator is even telling the story. Another idea I had was for moments where the narrator would change to another character to explore how they view things and show scenes that don’t require the main protagonist to be there, but they said that it would probably get confusing and unfocused. As a professional writer, what are your thoughts on this? 49:35 - we’ve seen the Sonic cast in all kinds of video game genres, but what are your thoughts on utilizing them in a Marvel Ultimate Alliance style game? I think it would be a blast to have a game that would let you mix and match a team of characters from all the various Sonic canons, and cut them loose against whatever challenge that’s thrown at the player! What kind of missions would be fun to play? Who would you recruit into your dream-teams? Would there be much room left for a story? 52:51 - Monkeys Paw time yet again! You finally get to do a Mario and Sonic crossover comic! But in classic Nintendo fashion, they forsake the obvious approach for something more…bizarre. Nintendo and SEGA task you with writing a mini series about everyone’s favorite bootleg, Somari! Merging the world, characters, and mythos of Sonic and Mario into an unholy yet intriguing story! How would you go about this strange project? 55:27 - As we know the IDW comics take place after Sonic Forces and before Sonic Frontiers and Sonic Dream Team. Is there a chance we're going to see the IDW storyline advance past those games? I know in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter since the Sonic timeline is pretty loose anyway but I'm just asking because I would really like to see characters like Sage and concepts like the Ancients appear. 56:37 - When answering a Sonadow question do you assume: the Sonic is gay, the Sonic is bisexual, the only boy who could ever reach Sonic is the son of a dark preacher, the only boy who could ever teach Sonic is the son of a dark preacher; yes he was, yes he was, oh yes he was! 57:28 - Dear BumbleKing, First time I'm doing this, wow. Just recently started listening this past week and was fascinated by your insight into the series. Given the Archie comics having so many different writers, source games, conflicting canons, and Sega restrictions, you were tasked to bring them all together to be unified into a cohesive narrative. What are your proudest "connectings-of-dots", where you took these disparate elements and tied it into the actual games? For example, taking all the emeralds across the galaxy, throwing them into the Zone of Silence, making the Great Harmony not involve Titan Tails, and establishing a Special Zone with the seven Emeralds. Crudfully yours, Vergil A ------------------------------------------ 1:00:24 - Outtake 1 1:00:57 - Outtake 2 1:01:59 - Outtake 3
I'm so curious on this, but what if-Mario combined White Tanooki suit (infinite Invincibility with raccoon powers) and the Metal Cap (invincible in Super Mario 64) overpower Super Sonic? Two layers of Invincibility are stronger than one?@@BumbleKingVideos
41:20 If this happened, I would pity Knuckles for having to put up with Jet and Wave. Also, I meant a timeline where they’d both joined the other’s team instead, but what you said about Storm being conflicted was funny.
22:52 I love the way you said it, I had a feeling that's what he would do if he was redeemed, I just wanted to know Ian's opinion. Best part was that the concept is gonna be considered later on.
I'm so curious on this, but what if-Mario combined White Tanooki suit (infinite Invincibility with raccoon powers) and the Metal Cap (invincible in Super Mario 64) overpower Super Sonic? Two layers of Invincibility are stronger than one?
35:29 Huh, I just imagined that if Shadow was made with Wisp Energy, the Ultimate RGB Keyboard and he just uses Rocket to Boost and Laser to Homing Attack. His Chaos Blast is just a super powerful Burst explosion.
May 24th, 2024 Question Timestamps:
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1:36 - In the most entertaining way possible, Knuckles has discovered that his parents....Are Tikal and Chaos! How does the red Echidna react to this revelation? Would anyone else have any fun reactions to this discovery?
3:47 - Surge gets tired of finding too many stories and movies where the hero wins, so she’s taking matters into her own hands: She decides to make her own comic. How does it go?
4:27 - Starline's isekai adventures continue! Starline finds himself in Mass Effect 2's Omega station. How does he handle a universe where the tech level is above his own? Does he team up with the Eclipse merc gang and their army of disposable robots? Does he seek out the Collectors to try and make a deal with them? What are his feelings on Dr. Mordin Solus? What does he wind up doing that breaks Omega's one rule and how do Aria's enforcers send him off to his next adventure as a result? If this is too many questions wrapped up into one, take them more as idea generating prompts and roll with whatever one sparks your interest or go a totally different way with it.
6:44 - One of the most interesting parts of AoStH Sonic's characterization is that he was a bit of a flirt (and unlike Sonic Bravo, his flirting actually worked most of the time). So, how would Rouge, Blaze, Whisper, Lanolin, and Jewel react to him flirting with them?
7:32 - Does Heavy King take a smoking break when he's not yelling at his troops? My personal head cannon is that off screen he acts like a tired cranky old man usually reading hot oil magazines and yelling for another beer.
7:55 - In honor of April fools (so, happy May to early June by the time you get to this, depending on how your schedule works out), I’m going with a spin off of my “boom hedgehog family is friends with Eggman” question. For a prank, boom Eggman and Boom Jules manage to convince Sonic that Jules has really always been a robot made by eggman. Bernie and Chuck help by gaslighting Sonic into thinking his mom had him via a nameless donor, Chuck is actually his mom’s brother, he just imagined the early Jules memories before he was roboticized, and that because Jules married Bernie, technically, eggman is legally Sonic’s grandfather (and thus, his middle name is actually Ivo, they lied to hide it from him “until he was ready to know”). How does Sonic react to this new, horrible, horrible, realization, does Bernie make him have any bonding time with good ol’ Papaw Eggy and Uncles Orbot and Cubot, and which one of the 4 finally breaks and lets Sonic know it’s a prank after awhile?
11:00 - Does Shadow need to say "Chaos Control" in order to make it work? Or could he just say anything random to confuse the heck out of people?
12:33 - I read a book exploring its own consept of magic. They reference entropy and how energy must always reach its end. A law magic brakes. Does that mean that the Chaos Emeralds infinite energy is magic?
13:10 - Sally Acorn and Lanolin have an interdimension/intercontinuity brunch. What kind of things do they talk about? (For ease of 'why would they be there', we can say it's a mix of diplomacy and free coffee)
*(**14:42** - CATCATCATCATCATCATCATCATCATCATCATCAT)*
15:20 - I heard from my friend that Maw [Thylacine] was going to be the one to come up with the zombot virus from IDW cause he was the only one of the Eggboss who actually agreed with Eggman being the ruler of the world. But it got canceled but the story was made in place using Starline to carry the whole robotizing everyone mess out. My question has kinda something to do with this and kinda doesn't i think? but my baseline question is: "Where was Maw's story going to go if the comic didn't get cancled? like what was he going to do had the archie comic not be canceled [...]."
17:51 - Alas, Sonic Bravo is dead and we must pull an 06 to resurrect him. How would Amy, Shadow, and Surge react to having to kiss and how would Sonic Bravo react to being kissed by them?
20:25 - To give you a break from all the shipping questions, let's go to your third-least favorite subject (after shipping and timeline questions): Redemption arcs! If you were tasked with it, how would you redeem Mimic? And no, you can't say he's irredeemable, because other characters have done worse and redeemed themselves. Need I mention Darth Vader and Nebula?
24:37 - On the fourth island in Sonic Frontiers, Tails, Amy and Knuckles all willingly returned to Cyberspace to heal Sonic of his cyber corruption. But what if they’d been unable to return to Cyberspace, and instead the three of them had been the ones to gather the Chaos Emeralds on the final island while Sonic just stood around at the top of that tower like a big glowy doorstop? How different would the story have been without Sonic able to help them defeat The End?
27:15 - Ian, you’re wrong. Sonic was not holding back during his fight with Tails in House of Cards. At least not in the latter half of the fight. He literally says “If you won’t pull any punches, then neither will I!” That completely contradicts what you said before about Sonic pulling his punches. What do you have to say in your defense? Keep in mind that you are under oath.
28:09 - What if instead of Sonic running by to save Tails from the bullies back in Sonic 2, Tails was instead saved by Big the Cat? How does Tails's life play out differently as Big the Cat's sidekick?
*(Kyle was correct as heck. This question was also asked on the December 4th 2023 episode at **5:45**)*
29:07 - Ian, I ask of you but one thing: to rewrite the famous ""You might know everything I'm going to do"" line as if Omega was the one saying it. Bonus points if you can somehow add the sounds of a printer jamming into the speech"
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29:46 - Ad break!
*(The rest of the questions are in the replies)*
The rest of the questions:
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30:42 - It’s the Olympics in the Stone Age! (Don’t ask how that’s possible.) And in said Olympics, the ancestors of Sonic and Mario are competing against each other. Who will take home the gold-painted stone medal? Will it be Son-ugh the Boghog or Mario’s GRAND DAD?
*(Ian Flynn old)*
35:29 - The reason for Shadow’s powers is because Black Doom donated his blood to him, right? Well.. what if the Black comet got destroyed before it ever arrived, so instead of asking Black Doom for help, Gerald ends up asking Mother wisp for help instead. Donating wisp blood instead. How different is Shadow and how does the events of his game play out now?
36:58 - Describe how Sonic Satam would play out with the Chaos Council as main antagonists.
38:15 - father death but later, it’s implied that she intends to manipulate him and him for her own gain until she either backstabs or just simply tries to dispose of him when she gets what she wants. I also have the same question for IDW, when after Knuckles gets cured, he finds her on top of the Master Emerald as if she was concerned more about it than him.
39:50 - Is Black Doom just three wisps in a trench coat, four counting his eye?
40:40 - If Sage didn't draw Sonic's attention at the beginning of the final horizons dlc, what was Sonic gonna do to Eggaman after that little comment about the power of friendship?
41:20 - Alternate timeline: what if Storm had joined Team Sonic and Knuckles had joined the Babylon Rogues? How would they get along with their teammates?
43:35 - There comes a time where every Man and Boy must make a decision that'll decide who they'll be for the rest of their life. I am here to see what decision you two have made... Would you Rather do the Kamehameha or the Super Hadoken?
44:04 - Something that's been repeatedly talked about on this podcast is how characters and stories can be interpreted wildly differently among people. Things like the meaning of Black Knight's story, Eggman Nega's characterization, Amy's Adventure-era behavior, etc. Heck, I and many others interpreted (pre-Final Horizons) Sage as having turned away from villainy entirely towards the end of Frontiers, whereas you stated that was very much not the intent for her character. When you're writing a story, Sonic or otherwise, do you ever try to consider these alternate interpretations of characters/stories that you do not share? Why or why not? I don't think there's a wrong answer, because ultimately, everyone having their own interpretations of the stories is inevitable and a part of being human.
46:26 - I’m working on the script for a graphic novel, and I decided to have the main character narrate the story. I got the first couple of pages done and I showed a friend of mine what I had. They said that while 1st person storytelling isn’t a bad method, there are a couple things that could trip me up later down the line. For example, there can’t be any scenes that don’t involve the main character, IE secret meetings between villains, the narrator can’t be surprised by twists because they already know what happens etc. They also said that you shouldn’t use a first-person format just to use it, and that there should be a greater reason as to why the narrator is even telling the story. Another idea I had was for moments where the narrator would change to another character to explore how they view things and show scenes that don’t require the main protagonist to be there, but they said that it would probably get confusing and unfocused. As a professional writer, what are your thoughts on this?
49:35 - we’ve seen the Sonic cast in all kinds of video game genres, but what are your thoughts on utilizing them in a Marvel Ultimate Alliance style game? I think it would be a blast to have a game that would let you mix and match a team of characters from all the various Sonic canons, and cut them loose against whatever challenge that’s thrown at the player! What kind of missions would be fun to play? Who would you recruit into your dream-teams? Would there be much room left for a story?
52:51 - Monkeys Paw time yet again! You finally get to do a Mario and Sonic crossover comic! But in classic Nintendo fashion, they forsake the obvious approach for something more…bizarre. Nintendo and SEGA task you with writing a mini series about everyone’s favorite bootleg, Somari! Merging the world, characters, and mythos of Sonic and Mario into an unholy yet intriguing story! How would you go about this strange project?
55:27 - As we know the IDW comics take place after Sonic Forces and before Sonic Frontiers and Sonic Dream Team. Is there a chance we're going to see the IDW storyline advance past those games? I know in the grand scheme of things it doesn't really matter since the Sonic timeline is pretty loose anyway but I'm just asking because I would really like to see characters like Sage and concepts like the Ancients appear.
56:37 - When answering a Sonadow question do you assume: the Sonic is gay, the Sonic is bisexual, the only boy who could ever reach Sonic is the son of a dark preacher, the only boy who could ever teach Sonic is the son of a dark preacher; yes he was, yes he was, oh yes he was!
57:28 - Dear BumbleKing, First time I'm doing this, wow. Just recently started listening this past week and was fascinated by your insight into the series. Given the Archie comics having so many different writers, source games, conflicting canons, and Sega restrictions, you were tasked to bring them all together to be unified into a cohesive narrative. What are your proudest "connectings-of-dots", where you took these disparate elements and tied it into the actual games? For example, taking all the emeralds across the galaxy, throwing them into the Zone of Silence, making the Great Harmony not involve Titan Tails, and establishing a Special Zone with the seven Emeralds. Crudfully yours, Vergil A
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I didn’t quite expect my Grand Dad question to confuse Ian this much, but I honestly can’t complain with the results.
"GRAND DAD?!" but literally. -Kyle
@@BumbleKingVideos Ian was the true Grand Dad all along.
I'm so curious on this, but what if-Mario combined White Tanooki suit (infinite Invincibility with raccoon powers) and the Metal Cap (invincible in Super Mario 64) overpower Super Sonic? Two layers of Invincibility are stronger than one?@@BumbleKingVideos
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41:20 If this happened, I would pity Knuckles for having to put up with Jet and Wave. Also, I meant a timeline where they’d both joined the other’s team instead, but what you said about Storm being conflicted was funny.
22:52 I love the way you said it, I had a feeling that's what he would do if he was redeemed, I just wanted to know Ian's opinion. Best part was that the concept is gonna be considered later on.
For the surprise cat appearance, we ride on the Algorithm Quest! *teleports via Chaos Control*
Knux: Hey Sonic! Wanna meet my parents?
Sonic: Sure Knux!
Tikal and Chaos: Hello Sonic
Sonic: .... I think i'm going to fight Eggman instead
Someone needs to animate that😭😭😭😭😭
46:36
Love your Videos
wow i finally got my question answered, after a ton of minis and Q&A’s. Hope that means the queue is mostly taken care if
I'm so curious on this, but what if-Mario combined White Tanooki suit (infinite Invincibility with raccoon powers) and the Metal Cap (invincible in Super Mario 64) overpower Super Sonic? Two layers of Invincibility are stronger than one?
I didn’t know the reboot would be in LHT! Awesome, I can chop questions off my list to ask.
35:29 Huh, I just imagined that if Shadow was made with Wisp Energy, the Ultimate RGB Keyboard and he just uses Rocket to Boost and Laser to Homing Attack. His Chaos Blast is just a super powerful Burst explosion.
Knuckles can become gold bubble shield knuckles. Let him have a pop against The End 😂
yay
The jet father erasure is crazy
14:42 Rest in peace, Tenny 😢
Who is Sonic Bravo ?
Sonic if he was Johnny Bravo. If you want to check out when he was first brought up, I’d check out July 31st, 2023’s live BumbleKast (at 23:58)
I'll do you one better. Why is Sonic Bravo?