joe is on testosterone replacement therapy.he doesnt go into it much or anything, but he has mentioned that he is in fact using TRT.hes in his 50s so that's a relatively normal thing to see.
Yo, I just watched this short vid where a guy explains the origins of the word Palumboism where this guy mentions how sufferers never seem to be aware they have Palumboism, as they keep showing up to competitions as they deteriorate. Must be some kind of Body Dysmorphia thing. ua-cam.com/video/esUrF1NvI_c/v-deo.html
as much as I respect Yates' achievements in bodybuilding, it is somewhat bemusing to hear him talk negatively about the bodybuilders of today and the bubble gut phenomena. He was the beginning of that phenomena. By the last leg of his career Dorian's waist was getting very wide and his conditioning looked increasingly worse. Despite his honesty about everything else, it is interesting to note that Dorian is still cagey about exactly what he did drug wise, he never goes into detail, i suspect, because people would be shocked by the dosages and choice of drugs used by the winners. A man of extremes, it is almost certain that his drug usage would be as every bit as extreme as his training. Dorian talks as if he is separate from the current era of bodybuilders, but hes not, hes really the father of it. His pursuit of size and his opponents furious pursuit to match him led to what is happening in bodybuilding currently, the massive abuse of insulin and HGH.
I love how Joe is saying wow what is it with the bloat belly and he full on has the same exact issue. Its what HGH does to the stomach after years of use
75% of igf1 receptors are in the intestines. Without enough binding proteins (igfbp3) igf1 will not be used by the muscles but instead causes growth in these areas. This is the answer everyone is looking for and here you have it.
This is no broscience. Igf1bp3 will "transport" the igf1 to the muscle cells. Now, if you use a product with a relatively long half-life (like igf1lr3) and you lack igf1bp3, growth will be systemic. Legend says Camel crew has access to igf1bp3 as well as pharmaceutical igf1 and knows how to apply it correctly.
Um Nachtet Intestinal growth isn’t reversible; visceral fat growth is. Organs don’t just shrink again after growing via hormones. Besides, why wouldn’t normal igf levels still cause a bit of constant growth post-puberty? Because your organs don’t continue to be affected by growth hormone’s size gaining effects post puberty.
Distended gut = insulin resistance and accumulation of visceral fat. Drugs are making bodybuilder develop what seems to be a metabolic syndrome. The symptoms are the same for everybody, no matter how much muscle you have.
Having a distended gut doesn’t mean you have insulin resistance. You could have an distended gut by simply eating too much fiber, or not properly breaking down foods. Then there’s people with IBS and SIBO, allergens, etc.
It is diabetic neuropathy, it’s one of the four types can’t remember the name but it causes this, Joe rogan has it too and I have it the same as he does. I think it’s due to sugar and not controlling your sugar when on steroids and hGH.. it’s something to do with the stomach not clearing completely as well as water bloating and a host of other symptoms like constipation feeing run down unable to control body temp etc.. it’s a serious thing and not because it bloats you like that
MonteCristo People get distended guts from not breaking down their foods properly, especially fibrous foods like beans, lentils, and other plant matter. If you eat excess fiber, you will bloat. Period. Having a distended gut doesn’t mean you’re a diabetic.
LOl this is garbage and you know it, MonteCristo. You're so far off it's laugable. There's nothing suggesting diabetic neuropathy has anything to do with distended stomach in bodybuilders.
@@miamisoccer2128 i didn’t read his comment of slow gut emptying as being related to diabetes. I’ve never heard of taking growth hormone for body building. Have only seen it prescribed for children who are not growing adequately. Yvonne
Quality is totally gone all you need to do is look at the Olympia from the 1980s to the Olympia now you will see the massive difference in quality mass. Muscle on the IFBB has distorted into bubble gut nightmares
The photo of Phil Heath, at 20 seconds in, is a doctored photo. His arms are NOT larger than his head in real life. Also, the photo shown at 2:20 is of Joe De Angelis, who passed away in 2015, who did not have that large of a gut in real life. I knew him personally, but not well. There was no way that he ever had that large of a gut ever.
I think I have palumboism in my lower sternum region. The top of my stomach just seems to protrude further out then my chest and lower abdomen. Not sure if it has to do with posture, I have pretty bad scoliosis.
Just wondering if thisbis a part of male biology. Men tend to get a big gut as they age, and it is dismissed as due to being overweight and obese. All my fat seems to be in my belly and I barely worked out and never used drugs.
I've never taken insulin or steroids or testosterone or hormones and I have pumboism not as bad as these guys but yeah I drink a lot of beer I always thought it was because of that it also takes an inhuman amount of work to lose the little fat I do get
Twice a month? More like twice a week but same dosage for the month. By day 8/9 your test will become lower and estrogen will shoot up. The more frequent you are the less side effects even when it comes to TRT
its theorized that insulin use causes some of the healthy gut biome to be susceptible to growth from new bacterial colonies in the gut, causing this bloated look
Joes just asking about all this for a friend
AahHhahahaahahaha
lol
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!
You win!
joe is on testosterone replacement therapy.he doesnt go into it much or anything, but he has mentioned that he is in fact using TRT.hes in his 50s so that's a relatively normal thing to see.
@@katstreeb7630 Yes. But, the shape of his head though.
Relatively abnormal.
joe asking about his own palumboism
I want to give a thumbs up but the thumbs up is on 666 thought it would be fitting not to change that number.....look who we are talking about!
They gonna start calling it roganitis lol
For a friend
Exactly
He was just asking “for a friend” 😂
Who else here after more plates more dates
Me
Me
Me
🙋♂️
Me
I would like to thank Dorian for his complete honesty.
Anyone who wants to look like a bodybuilder should listen to this guy first.
No bullshit. All truth.
@@leema89Too bad I didn’t learn about him until July, but better late than never
Joe: "Jamie pull up that video of my bubble guts."
Underrated comment
Stolen comment. Stop with this shit
@@leviburns89 oh shit the comment police is here
why is joe pretending he doesnt have palumboism himself ?
Denial just like his height
Joe Rogan is 5/6 but 5/5 with all that muslce weight due to hgh use … he wears high tops shoes make him look taller
Yo, I just watched this short vid where a guy explains the origins of the word Palumboism where this guy mentions how sufferers never seem to be aware they have Palumboism, as they keep showing up to competitions as they deteriorate. Must be some kind of Body Dysmorphia thing.
ua-cam.com/video/esUrF1NvI_c/v-deo.html
I bet you are a tiny little man compared to Joe.
He definitely has palumboism it’s been proven and also his height ain’t what he says.. lmao
kiddo is fragile
I've always been a Dorian fan, love his brutal honesty.
100% honest about the juice
@@seangreen8023 He's honest about a lot of things. One of the most straight shooters out there!!
Sorry joe.u are now with them #teampalumboism
😂
1:07 joe asking for his own sake😂😂😂
💀
as much as I respect Yates' achievements in bodybuilding, it is somewhat bemusing to hear him talk negatively about the bodybuilders of today and the bubble gut phenomena. He was the beginning of that phenomena. By the last leg of his career Dorian's waist was getting very wide and his conditioning looked increasingly worse. Despite his honesty about everything else, it is interesting to note that Dorian is still cagey about exactly what he did drug wise, he never goes into detail, i suspect, because people would be shocked by the dosages and choice of drugs used by the winners. A man of extremes, it is almost certain that his drug usage would be as every bit as extreme as his training.
Dorian talks as if he is separate from the current era of bodybuilders, but hes not, hes really the father of it. His pursuit of size and his opponents furious pursuit to match him led to what is happening in bodybuilding currently, the massive abuse of insulin and HGH.
David Private Very true. I was the biggest fan of Dorian, but he was a far cry from Larry Scott, Sergio Olivia, Arnold, Zane, etc.
David Private he talks about his drugs use more than any bodybuilder lol.
David Private he dose talk of his waist in this clip
Nah. He never had the mutant ninja turtles abs.
Robert Shyan-Norwalt yes we don’t indulge the imbeciles we know Dorian Jay and several others were just big boys
I love how Joe is saying wow what is it with the bloat belly and he full on has the same exact issue. Its what HGH does to the stomach after years of use
It’s trapped water and shit
@Daron Brown ? Ye but joe isnt off it. Stfu.
Nah. It's the insulin combined with the shit load of carbs.
ua-cam.com/video/UqGaGqtu5oA/v-deo.html
@@nickluckovitch3288exactly ppl dont even know what there talking about
Meanwhile Joe has the exact bubble gut from his GH use.
No. Distended abdominal muscles like a strong man. He has a super short torso, and does a ton of weird core work which adds to his blocky look.
@@__-wm9luWRONG
Joe: “So is there a cure for any of this?”
75% of igf1 receptors are in the intestines. Without enough binding proteins (igfbp3) igf1 will not be used by the muscles but instead causes growth in these areas. This is the answer everyone is looking for and here you have it.
Um Nachtet umm.. You're wrong. Sorry, your bioscience was disproved in 97
This is no broscience. Igf1bp3 will "transport" the igf1 to the muscle cells. Now, if you use a product with a relatively long half-life (like igf1lr3) and you lack igf1bp3, growth will be systemic.
Legend says Camel crew has access to igf1bp3 as well as pharmaceutical igf1 and knows how to apply it correctly.
Nah, it's just more food, bloating the gut.
It's visceral fat around the guts ie. beer belly. It comes from using insulin and eating carbohydrates.
Um Nachtet Intestinal growth isn’t reversible; visceral fat growth is. Organs don’t just shrink again after growing via hormones. Besides, why wouldn’t normal igf levels still cause a bit of constant growth post-puberty? Because your organs don’t continue to be affected by growth hormone’s size gaining effects post puberty.
That dude is huge just watched a guy say Joe Rogan has this gut thing.
Jesse Seonza Why did I also see that vid
Because once we saw it, they suggested this video.
It’s the algorithm. Coincidence is an illusion on UA-cam. Though the ebbs and flows of the algorithm may indeed be beyond human prediction.
@Rafael Felan not mind control, just associative algorithms giving us what we want. Consumer is king!
Hits home for joe this one
A big heart, is also called an enlarged heart. This guys seems like an honest, open dude
Joe’s got the bubble gut.
Lennyism
It sick it piss
People called out Rogan 5 years ago for HGH.
Distended gut = insulin resistance and accumulation of visceral fat. Drugs are making bodybuilder develop what seems to be a metabolic syndrome. The symptoms are the same for everybody, no matter how much muscle you have.
Having a distended gut doesn’t mean you have insulin resistance. You could have an distended gut by simply eating too much fiber, or not properly breaking down foods. Then there’s people with IBS and SIBO, allergens, etc.
Seen a couple of comments on seeing big Lenny on the show! Now that would be a show hahaha
fat retention for your organs. Increase thickness to greater omentum
It is diabetic neuropathy, it’s one of the four types can’t remember the name but it causes this, Joe rogan has it too and I have it the same as he does. I think it’s due to sugar and not controlling your sugar when on steroids and hGH.. it’s something to do with the stomach not clearing completely as well as water bloating and a host of other symptoms like constipation feeing run down unable to control body temp etc.. it’s a serious thing and not because it bloats you like that
MonteCristo
People get distended guts from not breaking down their foods properly, especially fibrous foods like beans, lentils, and other plant matter. If you eat excess fiber, you will bloat. Period. Having a distended gut doesn’t mean you’re a diabetic.
@@miamisoccer2128 another reason not to listen to arm chair physicians on you tube, this is the furthest thing from diabetic neuropathy.
LOl this is garbage and you know it, MonteCristo. You're so far off it's laugable. There's nothing suggesting diabetic neuropathy has anything to do with distended stomach in bodybuilders.
@@miamisoccer2128 look up diabetic neuropathy online before replying to him with emotion.
@@miamisoccer2128 i didn’t read his comment of slow gut emptying as being related to diabetes. I’ve never heard of taking growth hormone for body building. Have only seen it prescribed for children who are not growing adequately. Yvonne
Get Big Lenny from The Delray Misfits on!!!
I thougt he died?
@@lamolambda8349 that was rich piana
@@keithgreenan1850 I’ve never heard of her.
Joe sees this in the mirror everyday
*flash forward to Sober October 2019*
FUN FACT: This is more commonly known in the bodybuilding industry as 'Rogan's midriff''
The guy on the left with the huge belly is Lou Ferrigno! Can’t believe neither of them recognized him
joe rogan got roid gut himself
Hgh gut
HGH gut.
He got rid of his gut after his stint only eating meat
JC Denton exactly why it’s not a roid guy
JC Denton roelly did it
The pic of Heath is photoshopped
How High Can You Fly no its not
+chriddo evolushio Yes, it clearly is
Authentic Self Guide I hope your gay haircut is a Photoshopped joke
@@DanielBenzs65AMG hahaha
Joe (goes home takes of shirt looks at his own turtle shell in bathroom mirror) : Jesus Christ!
Dorian infected me!
I'd love to see you have Nick's Strength and Power on the show.
Why? He is not relevant whatsoever.
+GS S Then how do you know who he is?
Justin Turner who??
Justin Turner I liked his videos when he wasn't in them. His ego is growing by the day. And that hedgehog? I had to unsubscribe
Agreed. Big daddy Nick knows so much about body building.
where is the full interview ?
' what is it ...??? are my organs growing....??? '
Hahahahaha.
Joe has bubble gut too .. he has been on the GH
Bruh, Rogan also swallowed that 80’s TV boi.
Quality is totally gone all you need to do is look at the Olympia from the 1980s to the Olympia now you will see the massive difference in quality mass. Muscle on the IFBB has distorted into bubble gut nightmares
Lift weights naturally .. most ur testErone can be found in oysters and sardines
A lot of wwe guys had this. Joe too
that phil heath picture is obviously photoshopped
How?
I wonder how the fuck Dorian didnt notice
At this point, joe is just getting personal advice on how he should cycle
Loved his honesty.
BIG LENNY EPISODE 1000
The photo of Phil Heath, at 20 seconds in, is a doctored photo.
His arms are NOT larger than his head in real life. Also, the photo
shown at 2:20 is of Joe De Angelis, who passed away in 2015,
who did not have that large of a gut in real life. I knew him
personally, but not well. There was no way that he ever had
that large of a gut ever.
I knew Ronnie Coleman personally too, also Kevin Levrone is my brothers Dad
Hey joe
Love your show bro! Wish you all the best!
RICH PIANO
Rich was Natty
@@thatbuckmulligan dude he used whey no way was he natty
@@PurpleyApple so sick of people claim Rich used whey.
It’s so ignorant
@@thatbuckmulligan im sorry bro just rewatched his vids, it was pea protein😬, dude had them vegan gains💪
@@thatbuckmulligan rich admitted to it
Funny this is exactly what Joe looking like now. Turtle shell lmaooo
A little bit? Yates looked 7 months pregnant
Get Dave Palumbo on your show please!!!!
Aesthetically, the bodybuilders of Arnold’s time were so much more beautiful than anything since.
**Dave Palumbo has left the chat**
@1:57. These bodybuilders are deluding themselves. An enlarged heart is NOT a good thing
Joe got this.
Maybe nerve damage. Neuropathy is common in people with insulin problems.
I think it's Insulin, because my grandpa and some other old people I know got that gut when they got on insulin.
I'm not a doctor but isnt having an enlarged heart a bad thing.
I guess professional athletes have bigger hearts than most but there are sum bodybuilders with hearts that weigh three times the normal weight lol
All athletes have larger hearts. It's not a problem.
LMAO @ that shopped picture of Phil Heath.
I hate the HGH, insulin gut... turns alot of people off of bodybuilding
Big Lenny!!!
THE GODFATHER OF ABS!!!!
apparently it doesn't only happen to bodybuilders
What is that? Joe grabs a pen and paper.
UA-cam and the comments are the best thing since sliced 🍞
Do you really have to edit the obnoxious intro in?
Nathan1el was about to comment on that loud ass intro. annoying
2:26 guy on right is Roelly Wrinklar
Dorian would be a great one to sit down and talk evolution with.
Ninja Turtle physique
Joe should talk.
I think I have palumboism in my lower sternum region. The top of my stomach just seems to protrude further out then my chest and lower abdomen. Not sure if it has to do with posture, I have pretty bad scoliosis.
I think you have donut palumboism
It sucks if you don’t have the genetics, but have the desire…
Dorian should know as he was the first one to have a bloated waist. The Father of bloat!
Lol Joe you should know it all about palumboism at this point.
I can't believe none of them knew that was Lou Ferrigno 2:20.. and I believe someone enhanced it
just watched this in the full video version and noticed that someone has actually listed it as pamuboism LOL
Joe needs to get lee priest on
Just wondering if thisbis a part of male biology. Men tend to get a big gut as they age, and it is dismissed as due to being overweight and obese. All my fat seems to be in my belly and I barely worked out and never used drugs.
That's pretty normal, and it's not what they're talking about.
Fewer people not less people
Joe rogan suddenly looks like he doesn't lift panning back to him after seeing Phil heath
It's called Lennyism
Insulin resistance, fat around the internal organs, lots of men used to or still do get it, from booze or sugar,
Enter the Mike Mentzer vacuum pose.
Couldn’t metformin slightly reverse this?
That was Lou Ferrigno
Here from More Plates More Dates
I've never taken insulin or steroids or testosterone or hormones and I have pumboism not as bad as these guys but yeah I drink a lot of beer I always thought it was because of that it also takes an inhuman amount of work to lose the little fat I do get
Beer belly
bro that edited photo of phil
Joe is asking because he's got Palumboism lol!
Moral of story dont do drugs unless inhaled
Palumbo Joe
2:26 OH FUCK! is that my boy Big Lenny!!!
Dorian Yates was the first with roid gut (palumboism)
freedomofthinking not true at all his body looked a little less good in 97 but he never had a pregnant belly.
Joe abuses steroids and has palumboism as well loool
Twice a month? More like twice a week but same dosage for the month. By day 8/9 your test will become lower and estrogen will shoot up. The more frequent you are the less side effects even when it comes to TRT
Joe has never denied admitted doing hgh for years
He did an interview with Dorian Yates, and the talked about palumboism, now Joe has it, why didn't he heed the warnings.
its theorized that insulin use causes some of the healthy gut biome to be susceptible to growth from new bacterial colonies in the gut, causing this bloated look
Joe has it too. Just not as extreme
It’s insulin resistants. Diabetic neuropathy.
This is so wrong because body building is growing now in popularity
it's hyperglycemia
My stomach after drinking all night 😂