V60 still looks nicest to me, taste wise my favorite with cloth filter. I've heard about Hario switching filter manufacturer but curious about the true difference, flow rate and effect on flavor. Maybe worth a compare Hario vs Cafec vs cloth vs metal filters? I'm also seeing a few types of Cafec filters (there seems to be specialty types for medium roast and light roast?? www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZYKFXKZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_d8DnFb2BQZ1F1). Wonder what the differences are.
The Tetra Drip but at the same time, I do love and enjoy the great tasting coffee from the Ceramic Cafec flower. The origami looks too fragile for me. Good review, honest, objective and quite entertaining. Please do make a video showing us how you actually use the Tetra Drip and Cafec with the coffee and water proportion that you think is best.
@@MEDChua I love having both the Aeropress and Tetra Drip with me when I travel. So many options with that set up, might actually make a video about it. The Cafec I use in a very similar way to the V60.
@@pandaownage The problem with Hario's filter now is that have a bit more tendency to stalling than before. I don't trust them, whereas I know what's coming with Cafec Abaca. I have seen the new roast specific models from Cafec, and also very curious about them.
Really cool to see these Japanese drippers in a review together. As I camper I got the Tetra Drip in metal and it's really great. It's much thinner than the plastic one so beyond being light it takes up virtually no space especially if you tuck in the papers in the ziplock it comes with. It also seems to have a faster flow rate than the metal one because the sides are cut out so air moves freely.
I've been playing with ceramic Flower Dripper for a while and I absolutely love it. I haven't tried the other two so I won't compare them, but I would say Cafec makes richer-tasting coffee than Hario V60 or Kalita Wave. I would rank them as follows: Flower Dripper > Kalita 155 > Hario V60. Obviously, though, it's totally subjective.
I decided to try the Cafec filters as you spoke so highly of them and so far I am really enjoying them. I usually use Kono filters or V60, but I am getting more fruity notes from the Cafec filters over the Kono. Thank you!
Thanks, Clarence, that's good to hear! As far as I remember, the Kono filters are also quite good. Both are definitely way better than the new Hario filters.
I've had the plastic cafec flower for 7 months now, I notice a slight difference in flavor in comparison to my metal v60. I find it more aromatic with slightly softer acidity than the v60. I'm sad though, I recently noticed it is developing cracks from the heat. It's a shame the ceramic cafec option is about twice the price of the ceramic v60.
Hey! The Origami Dripper actually has a wooden base holder. But I've found that that doesn't quite benefit leveling the dripper very much... Trunk Coffee has actually released a plastic ABS holder for the Origami dripper that works really well to level the dripper. But it doesn't look quite as aesthetically pleasing as the wooden one... :)
Hey Tim, I did mention the wooden base and also that it's not quite ideal. I wasn't aware that they have released a new one, however. It must be pretty new since I haven't seen it anywhere in my feed yet 😉
I would love to see the original Melitta dripper included in your future dripper comparisons. After all it was responsible for the entire pour over revolution. Two questions I have are: 1. How far have we come on overall pour over quality? 2. Does the Melitta still hold it's own against the new competion?
Melitta is interesting. For some reason it's not very popular. Guess the main reason is branding. The famous coffee shop Cupping Room in Hong Kong uses Melitta, and I had great coffee there. In terms of overall pour over quality, I think the tools and knowledge is available but not all coffee shops treat it with the level of dedication that's necessary.
Thanks for the review. I've personally been using Kalita Wave for the last 5 years or something and I love it. I however think that I'll be switching to Cafec's Flower soon due to the fact that their products are more readily available in my country than Kalita's. Kalita's filters a bit more expensive and are quite frankly very hard to find here. Your video has definitely helped me make an informed decision. Thank you.
New subscriber here! I’ve really been enjoying your videos over the past few days. A while ago my ceramic V60 broke, and I haven’t brewed pour over for a while. But now I’m looking to get back into pour over, so I went ahead and ordered the Cafec Flower to try something just slightly different. Thanks for the video!
Nice walk through! I have an Origami Dripper with the wooden collar that I rarely ever use because of the faff of keeping it level and placing either conical or flat bottom filters properly in it. It's too bad really, as it's really pretty!
The Cafec flower seems really interesting! Thank you for the thoughts on that. I used an Origami for a while, I think it looks nice but it is worse than the V60 in most ways (for my use cases). I even use wave filters in the V60 and I way prefer that to the Origami.
@@coffeechronicler For doses of 15 g or smaller I find it works really well! Definitely better than V60 filters. For larger doses I just use whichever one I feel like.
The Origami is EXTREMELY FRAGILE! I dropped mine from about 5 cm onto a towel over a worktop and it got a crack which led to failure. If they made a plastic one that was actually stable it could be great!
@@coffeechronicler Maybe! Although I really think plastic is the way to go. Hard to break, good thermals, and light weight! I am really not a fan of ceramic and glass drippers but that is just me And Great content btw! Loving the videos.
I dont think that the faster flow from origami/flower dripper comes from air flow. I think it's more of a force/weight thing. In both the origami and the flower dripper, both have patterns on the sides which prevents papers from sticking. But instead of creating air flow, I think that the non-sticking paper did not offer much "weight support" from the slurry, forcing more of slurry weight to be held by the bottom of the paper filter, this creates more pressure, thus faster flow. Pressure = Force / area The less the area that is supporting the slurry from the sides, the more pressure there is gonna be on the bottom. :)
Hello! Have you seen that Cafec has 2 more drippers now? The Trapezoid & 45 Degree. Plus a porcelain version of original dripper called Arita. Any possibility you could review them sometime? they all seem a bit interesting to me. Thank you!!
@@coffeechronicler Nice review! After using a ceramic and plastic v60 for a few years, I've kinda gravitated towards the smaller plastic Cafec dripper for 1 cup (13-15g coffee) morning pourovers, and the Timemore Crystal Dripper (large plastic) when using more than 20g of coffee.
I have been brewing with the April brewer for a few weeks. Has been very tasty and stress-free with Kalita filters. Pairs nicely with a melodrip as it has faster flow than a Kalita Wave (and brewing with melodrip is usually tastiest with a slightly finer grind).
Hey! Thank you so much for this video. I think I'll be ordering the Flower Dripper, should I get 02 or 01? I typically brew around 375ml of coffee, never brewed less than 350ml.
I wonder why people make emphasis when a coffee gadget is good for traveling, I Mean yeah but you still need quite a lot of stuff to make coffee i don’t get it
Which one is your favorite?
V60 still looks nicest to me, taste wise my favorite with cloth filter. I've heard about Hario switching filter manufacturer but curious about the true difference, flow rate and effect on flavor.
Maybe worth a compare Hario vs Cafec vs cloth vs metal filters? I'm also seeing a few types of Cafec filters (there seems to be specialty types for medium roast and light roast?? www.amazon.com/dp/B07ZYKFXKZ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_d8DnFb2BQZ1F1). Wonder what the differences are.
The Tetra Drip but at the same time, I do love and enjoy the great tasting coffee from the Ceramic Cafec flower. The origami looks too fragile for me. Good review, honest, objective and quite entertaining. Please do make a video showing us how you actually use the Tetra Drip and Cafec with the coffee and water proportion that you think is best.
P. S. I switch over to the Tetra Drip from the AeroPress because of the convenience :)
@@MEDChua I love having both the Aeropress and Tetra Drip with me when I travel. So many options with that set up, might actually make a video about it. The Cafec I use in a very similar way to the V60.
@@pandaownage The problem with Hario's filter now is that have a bit more tendency to stalling than before. I don't trust them, whereas I know what's coming with Cafec Abaca. I have seen the new roast specific models from Cafec, and also very curious about them.
Audio level is now fantastic, thank you for the amazing content and listening to your viewers!
Had to learn a bit about audio engineering but it was well worth it :)
Really cool to see these Japanese drippers in a review together. As I camper I got the Tetra Drip in metal and it's really great. It's much thinner than the plastic one so beyond being light it takes up virtually no space especially if you tuck in the papers in the ziplock it comes with. It also seems to have a faster flow rate than the metal one because the sides are cut out so air moves freely.
I haven't tried the metal version, but my guess would also be that are some differences.
I've been playing with ceramic Flower Dripper for a while and I absolutely love it. I haven't tried the other two so I won't compare them, but I would say Cafec makes richer-tasting coffee than Hario V60 or Kalita Wave. I would rank them as follows: Flower Dripper > Kalita 155 > Hario V60. Obviously, though, it's totally subjective.
Subjective maybe, but similar to my experience :)
I decided to try the Cafec filters as you spoke so highly of them and so far I am really enjoying them. I usually use Kono filters or V60, but I am getting more fruity notes from the Cafec filters over the Kono. Thank you!
Thanks, Clarence, that's good to hear! As far as I remember, the Kono filters are also quite good. Both are definitely way better than the new Hario filters.
I've had the plastic cafec flower for 7 months now, I notice a slight difference in flavor in comparison to my metal v60. I find it more aromatic with slightly softer acidity than the v60. I'm sad though, I recently noticed it is developing cracks from the heat. It's a shame the ceramic cafec option is about twice the price of the ceramic v60.
Hey! The Origami Dripper actually has a wooden base holder. But I've found that that doesn't quite benefit leveling the dripper very much... Trunk Coffee has actually released a plastic ABS holder for the Origami dripper that works really well to level the dripper. But it doesn't look quite as aesthetically pleasing as the wooden one... :)
Hey Tim, I did mention the wooden base and also that it's not quite ideal. I wasn't aware that they have released a new one, however. It must be pretty new since I haven't seen it anywhere in my feed yet 😉
@@coffeechronicler oops I must have missed it! You can check out the plastic holder on trunk coffee's Instagram :)
I would love to see the original Melitta dripper included in your future dripper comparisons. After all it was responsible for the entire pour over revolution.
Two questions I have are:
1. How far have we come on overall pour over quality?
2. Does the Melitta still hold it's own against the new competion?
Melitta is interesting. For some reason it's not very popular. Guess the main reason is branding. The famous coffee shop Cupping Room in Hong Kong uses Melitta, and I had great coffee there.
In terms of overall pour over quality, I think the tools and knowledge is available but not all coffee shops treat it with the level of dedication that's necessary.
Thanks for the review. I've personally been using Kalita Wave for the last 5 years or something and I love it. I however think that I'll be switching to Cafec's Flower soon due to the fact that their products are more readily available in my country than Kalita's. Kalita's filters a bit more expensive and are quite frankly very hard to find here. Your video has definitely helped me make an informed decision. Thank you.
Cafec definitely has a lot of momentum at the moment, and it's well deserved.
New subscriber here! I’ve really been enjoying your videos over the past few days. A while ago my ceramic V60 broke, and I haven’t brewed pour over for a while. But now I’m looking to get back into pour over, so I went ahead and ordered the Cafec Flower to try something just slightly different. Thanks for the video!
On the tetra drip, the one reviewed I guess is the 3.5 cups. And they sell a smaller version too... guess how I found out..
Nice walk through!
I have an Origami Dripper with the wooden collar that I rarely ever use because of the faff of keeping it level and placing either conical or flat bottom filters properly in it. It's too bad really, as it's really pretty!
Options are good, but especially in the morning it can be nice with some decisions already made for you :)
The Cafec flower seems really interesting! Thank you for the thoughts on that. I used an Origami for a while, I think it looks nice but it is worse than the V60 in most ways (for my use cases). I even use wave filters in the V60 and I way prefer that to the Origami.
Never tried Wave filters in the V60, need to give that a try.
@@coffeechronicler For doses of 15 g or smaller I find it works really well! Definitely better than V60 filters. For larger doses I just use whichever one I feel like.
The Origami is EXTREMELY FRAGILE! I dropped mine from about 5 cm onto a towel over a worktop and it got a crack which led to failure. If they made a plastic one that was actually stable it could be great!
Haha, I'm getting worried now. Somebody should make a titanium dripper 😉
@@coffeechronicler Maybe! Although I really think plastic is the way to go. Hard to break, good thermals, and light weight! I am really not a fan of ceramic and glass drippers but that is just me
And Great content btw! Loving the videos.
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@@coffeechronicler Flattered that you know about us haha. Love your content! Keep it up :)
Wonderful comparison! Thank you for sharing these reviews. Really intrigued by the tetra drip. I'm guessing the origami dripper is made from ceramic?
Thanks for the kind words, Pradeep. Yes, it's made from a light Japanese ceramic.
I dont think that the faster flow from origami/flower dripper comes from air flow. I think it's more of a force/weight thing. In both the origami and the flower dripper, both have patterns on the sides which prevents papers from sticking. But instead of creating air flow, I think that the non-sticking paper did not offer much "weight support" from the slurry, forcing more of slurry weight to be held by the bottom of the paper filter, this creates more pressure, thus faster flow. Pressure = Force / area
The less the area that is supporting the slurry from the sides, the more pressure there is gonna be on the bottom.
:)
And the winner is.... the plastic v60
Haha, I'm not sure if it gets enough points in instagram appeal to take it home ;)
Hello! Have you seen that Cafec has 2 more drippers now? The Trapezoid & 45 Degree. Plus a porcelain version of original dripper called Arita. Any possibility you could review them sometime? they all seem a bit interesting to me. Thank you!!
have you tried Timemore's Eye Crystal? the draw-down on it is pretty fast also, comparing to v60.
Haven't tried that one yet!
@@coffeechronicler Nice review! After using a ceramic and plastic v60 for a few years, I've kinda gravitated towards the smaller plastic Cafec dripper for 1 cup (13-15g coffee) morning pourovers, and the Timemore Crystal Dripper (large plastic) when using more than 20g of coffee.
Have you tried the April brewer? Would love a review of that:)
Not yet! But I love their beans so quite curious about that one
I have been brewing with the April brewer for a few weeks. Has been very tasty and stress-free with Kalita filters. Pairs nicely with a melodrip as it has faster flow than a Kalita Wave (and brewing with melodrip is usually tastiest with a slightly finer grind).
Do you have a recipe for the tetra drip? Also, I’m wondering how you swirl to level the bed
Have you compared your Tetra Drip with its Stainless Steel brother? Does having the filter exposed change the coffee taste greatly?
Have you heard abut Rivers dripper, another collapsible travel dripper to compete with Munieq
I would love to see your opinion on fellow x brewer and compare it with kalita since they both have wave style filters.
On the radar :)
Hey! Thank you so much for this video. I think I'll be ordering the Flower Dripper, should I get 02 or 01? I typically brew around 375ml of coffee, never brewed less than 350ml.
Sounds like the bigger version would be better
I wonder why people make emphasis when a coffee gadget is good for traveling, I Mean yeah but you still need quite a lot of stuff to make coffee i don’t get it
Thank you for upload. Which filter and size for Tetradrip? Thanks!
Cafec Abaca size 2 is the best fit. Size 1 also works but it is a bit more awkward.