Birds BMW M235i - The Ultimate M-Lite?

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  • Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
  • If you already own a BMW M235i, you might be tempted to get an M2 - but it's a lot more money. So for a lot less money, you could get this kit from Birds (pricing details on their website) - designed to transform the handling of BMW's entry level coupe.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 81

  • @LiamE69
    @LiamE69 5 років тому +21

    I can't help thinking that parts made by Quaife will make farting noises at off putting moments.

  • @mr.airgun6921
    @mr.airgun6921 5 років тому +18

    Genuinely thought the title was slang for reviewing your mrs’ car haha 😆

    • @CharlieDrives
      @CharlieDrives 5 років тому +1

      Mr. Airgun haha same

    • @SenszR
      @SenszR 5 років тому

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Scala598
    @Scala598 5 років тому +3

    Always wanted a birds kitted 130i, and still do to some extent.
    Good review, although would have been better if you could have done a back to back with a standard car to get a direct comparison

  • @zarbon700
    @zarbon700 5 років тому +2

    Lotus = Ultimate Driving Machine

    • @TruthTube1111
      @TruthTube1111 5 років тому +4

      Lotus= Loads Of Trouble Usually Serious

    • @zarbon700
      @zarbon700 5 років тому +4

      @@TruthTube1111You're just another delusional person who knows very little about Lotus. My 2017 Lotus Evora 400 is way more reliable than the Porsche I owned before it.

    • @TruthTube1111
      @TruthTube1111 5 років тому +1

      @@zarbon700 An Ad hominem attack and an assumption of my knowledge shows arrogance beyond belief. What I stated remains unchallenged :)

    • @zarbon700
      @zarbon700 5 років тому +2

      @@TruthTube1111 Making a statement not based on facts but on ignorance, doesnt make you correct. Lotus owners, like me, will tell you they are very reliable. You should listen to what Lotus owners tell you instead of relying on your ignorance. You can't get upset when someone calls you out on your ignorance due to your actions.

    • @TruthTube1111
      @TruthTube1111 5 років тому +1

      @@zarbon700 You're full of it mate ....I have been a Lotus owner and I reiterate, not only your arrogance, ignorance and keyboard warrior like tendencies, but also through my own and many others experience that LOTUS= Loads Of Trouble Usually Serious. I'm not upset by you, I am amused by you :) I'm bored by you too, so this is my final say.

  • @lilpattman
    @lilpattman 5 років тому +1

    Interesting content as always would like to see a similar spec birds M235i with a map on it and a manual gearbox

  • @bernardfisher7432
    @bernardfisher7432 2 роки тому +2

    He’s a big old unit in that car

  • @mikescott4008
    @mikescott4008 5 років тому +19

    My Birds 135i is a better B road car than my M2.
    Final comment re wasted money - I agree.

    • @123456bmx
      @123456bmx 5 років тому

      Mike Scott damn,I kinda want to get an m235i from my one series but I guess not.E82 ftw!

    • @mikescott4008
      @mikescott4008 5 років тому +1

      123456bmx I found the steering better on my E82 135i than the M235i I tested. If I was to repeat car purchase again I’d either keep my 135i with Birds spec or get an £18k M235i and Birds spec it over my current M car.

    • @wenky_facewenky6257
      @wenky_facewenky6257 2 роки тому

      @@mikescott4008 damn you're bird drives a bimmer. I bet it's a parrot

    • @mikescott4008
      @mikescott4008 2 роки тому

      @@wenky_facewenky6257 🙄🙄

  • @Birmingham_racing
    @Birmingham_racing 5 років тому +8

    I never used to like the 2 series but it’s grown on me. Why did you sell the 130i?

  • @GuysThatDrive
    @GuysThatDrive 5 років тому +12

    Is that not the M performance exhaust that is highly rated?!

    • @jameslove888
      @jameslove888 5 років тому +1

      Guys That Drive it is the MPE on the back of it. Will sound a bit fruitier than a stock M235i.

    • @opmike343
      @opmike343 4 роки тому

      Highly rated by whom? Just do a muffler delete. Much cheaper, sounds better, not obnoxious at all if you keep the stock downpipe/cat.

  • @ravss4594
    @ravss4594 2 роки тому +5

    Driven the m235i and m240i. I wouldn’t call them sports cars, but more fast street cars. Feels a bit disconnected from the road but it’s also quite a comfortable car.

    • @user-ql1pc7pi9x
      @user-ql1pc7pi9x 2 роки тому +2

      Maybe stock. These things have amazing tuning potential.

    • @DJ_MH_Remixes
      @DJ_MH_Remixes Рік тому

      GT

    • @Headie0ne
      @Headie0ne 10 місяців тому

      @@user-ql1pc7pi9xwhat would you tune?

  • @matthewbrown5562
    @matthewbrown5562 5 років тому +5

    I have a m235i. Couldn't justify paying for an m2

    • @nicholasianbates
      @nicholasianbates 4 роки тому

      Pleased with choice? I'm unsure of whether to go m235i or m140i. M2 looks ace but too expensive for me

    • @harriehealey7285
      @harriehealey7285 4 роки тому +2

      Nic Bates m235i, the 1 series is so common and looks like a shitty estate, the m235i is a sexy coupe

  • @georgeapplegate2091
    @georgeapplegate2091 5 років тому +8

    I like your videos Jay, down to earth, factual and an easy tone to listen to. Keep up the good work.

  • @Tom90Y
    @Tom90Y 5 років тому +4

    Great video as always and nice to see another M235i on the channel alongside mine :)

  • @robertcroft2905
    @robertcroft2905 5 років тому +5

    So glad you uploaded this, I love the 2 series!

  • @oceandrive7283
    @oceandrive7283 Місяць тому

    Just get the dampers yourself- much cheaper!!

  • @francescop1
    @francescop1 4 роки тому +2

    there is no mention of the lower control arm and rear subframe upgrades on the birds website. I don't think these are fitted to this car.

  • @MrKeyboardCommando
    @MrKeyboardCommando 5 років тому +17

    Cletus, I'm delighted to hear you say that on public roads a car can have too much power. What you need for enjoyable driving is a feeling of connection with the car, and this feeling comes via the handling of the car. The car has got to be fun to drive, and power hasn't got a lot to do with that - Audi are an example of stunning power and little enjoyment.

    • @JB-F10-M5
      @JB-F10-M5 5 років тому +2

      MrKeyboardCommando completely agree 👍🏽

    • @jackthehat8593
      @jackthehat8593 5 років тому +5

      Audi's are as dull as ditchwater

    • @MrKeyboardCommando
      @MrKeyboardCommando 5 років тому +1

      @@jackthehat8593 Indeed, they are.👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

  • @anjdog2003
    @anjdog2003 5 днів тому

    Another nice sunny day in England

  • @brianearl5517
    @brianearl5517 3 роки тому +2

    wat is this test driver going on about

  • @SHAQ_OAT
    @SHAQ_OAT 4 роки тому +5

    Starts off with something that doesn’t really make sense. Doesn’t believe BMWs are the ultimate driving car since he has driven other better cars (e.g their rivals). But he doesn’t have anything against BMWs because they are often better to drive than their rivals.
    Man car you tubers just say anything lmao

    • @themarenda
      @themarenda 4 роки тому

      He meant that he drived better cars but that usually bimers are better cars to drive in their segment, it can't be ultimate driving machine if you count supercars and track toys like ariel atom or bac mono

  • @justaddafan
    @justaddafan 5 років тому +1

    I'm not very familiar with the dynamics of the 2 series, but if a car tends to loose rear grip on a bump in a corner, it can be an indication that the alignment may be off.

  • @nahnatsnotme937
    @nahnatsnotme937 5 років тому +7

    Prefer the practically of my m140i🤪 but still good value for the performance

  • @intranec844
    @intranec844 5 років тому +5

    Finally smn who mentions the indifference in weight reg. M2 and M4. Imo, this is the M2's biggest flaw. It should be 200 Kg lighter to be a proper M car like the E46.
    Nice video :)

    • @sandorcsurgay8003
      @sandorcsurgay8003 5 років тому +1

      Manual cars, because they are lighter a little bit, M4: 1497kg, M2 and M3 E46 both 1495kg, actually its pretty epic that a modern car just this much, even 1400kg would be amazing, my S2000 was 1320kg, -200 is just not possible without giving up a lot of comfort, Lotus Exige 380 is 1100kg, but that is just so fkin loud

    • @deadly134
      @deadly134 5 років тому

      M2 has forged rods the m4 doesn’t

  • @Z1000SX_Matt
    @Z1000SX_Matt 5 років тому +1

    Great review, seriously considering this for my next car

  • @RSTurbo50
    @RSTurbo50 2 роки тому +2

    Trying to be like Jeremy Clarkson but sadly not pulling it off........

  • @peterwatson9047
    @peterwatson9047 5 років тому +2

    I've got a 230i (engine is basically a down-sized turbocharged match for the old 130i N/A engine in terms of performance) and my future mods list is basically this: quaife lsd, supersprint exhaust bits (turbo-back) , possibly birds suspension, less likely but may consider an ecu tune. Not rushing to do any of this but the quaife will be first.

  • @bloodshot6
    @bloodshot6 2 роки тому

    Good review

  • @davidviner4932
    @davidviner4932 5 років тому

    Great review, I have a 1 convertible as my daily driver, this car looks interesting

  • @delboy2596
    @delboy2596 5 років тому +1

    The owner did well to get it all so cheap the Birds and the quaife and over £3k

  • @paullockwood7219
    @paullockwood7219 5 років тому

    Still a Great car.

  • @VarioFelce
    @VarioFelce 5 років тому

    that intro is savage ahahah

  • @Kraken1000
    @Kraken1000 5 років тому +1

    Does all this lead to a ride that shatters your spine when you run over a penny? This isn't a sports car, it's a GT, which means you start in London and get out in Milan - in one piece.

    • @rosstee
      @rosstee 5 років тому

      Watch the video and you’ll find out. SPOILER:
      Of course it doesn’t.

  • @1970boggy
    @1970boggy 5 років тому +4

    Great 👍 cars !
    Had an M240i awesome bit of kit
    Just as quick as the standard M2 anyway👍
    I will say using standard suspension - set up the car actually feels to fast for its chassis. Don’t modify our daily so just lift off the throttle 🤪

  • @presley1234567
    @presley1234567 5 років тому

    I had one of these though without the LSD, great car and enjoyed it loads. The only downside like all BMW without the xdrive is you just can’t get the power down so the new M3 and M4 in the next generation should solve that problem and make them so much more enjoyable. Nice vid Jay

  • @Sierra747
    @Sierra747 5 років тому

    An m235i is what I want next or a m135i depending on price. Remap to 400bhp and it’s perfect.

    • @tracktimevideos5164
      @tracktimevideos5164 5 років тому +5

      Well no, they are pretty quick as standard, it's the crappy handling that lets them down, this is what needs modding.

    • @hihello6353
      @hihello6353 5 років тому

      mark reed the m135i is lower in price than the m235i. If you got the money go for the m140i.

    • @gerryr1893
      @gerryr1893 2 роки тому

      Get an m2

  • @jamiemorris5177
    @jamiemorris5177 5 років тому +3

    Lol 1st first time ever

  • @argus0118
    @argus0118 5 років тому

    Bmw 2 series: The car bmw made to make bmw connoisseurs buy NEW bmw's. XD

  • @lloydjenkins1572
    @lloydjenkins1572 5 років тому

    Why is the m3 up for sale?

  • @ivorproblem1332
    @ivorproblem1332 5 років тому

    N54 is Bi Turbo not twin turbo

  • @jayrusty2012
    @jayrusty2012 5 років тому +1

    50 seconds in ... aaand it’s an automatic! 🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️🤦🏻‍♂️ why ... just, why?! 👎🤨👎

    • @123456bmx
      @123456bmx 5 років тому +3

      J M because manual is dead and nobody buys them.Why would a company waste all that money for 3% of sales to go to manual transmission cars.

    • @jayrusty2012
      @jayrusty2012 5 років тому +1

      123456bmx where do u live brah?! In the UK (and Europe) manual is very much alive; in any case, it’s all about the pleasure of driving. If i had a family sedan, i’d want an automatic. But if i had a sporty car, i deffo want a manual!

    • @hihello6353
      @hihello6353 5 років тому +1

      Jack ///M240i you are the one not understand what he is saying. I fully understand what J M is saying.
      Its all depending on what car you will be drivning. I would have any M 1-235i-40i or the M2 in manual, why? Beacuse it is like a toy car lol, you dont care if you lose thoose 0.2 sec from 0-100 just beacuse you have a manual, its just more fun with manual, more drivning pleasure.
      Now lets say the new M5 would have the option to having manual, would i take it ? Nope, i let YOU figure out why i would not take it, if you can.
      Lol