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How Elden Ring may Dunk on Game of Thrones

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  • Опубліковано 19 сер 2024
  • Today, DJ Peach Cobbler forgot to sleep...He ALSO jumped on the "Game of Thrones HATE TRAIN" about 1 year too late, no one cares anymore.
    But Cobbler's got a good reason to do so.
    Where Game of Thrones failed...Elden Ring may just excel! George R.R. Martin is Cobbler's fourth-biggest crush! He comes in right after Hugo Martin and Todd Howard and Todd Howard a second time.

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  • @DJPeachCobbler
    @DJPeachCobbler  2 роки тому +519

    Thanks for watching, Joffrey Baratheon was a total Sigma
    at 8:25 that black box is supposed to be the release date of Dance with Dragons, the last book which was released in 2011. My editing software messed up, now it's too late. Shame.
    DISCORD: discord.gg/Tatcfmqb

    • @el_slender
      @el_slender 2 роки тому +3

      Elden Ring will be the best thing that has ever happened to humanity

    • @NocnaGlizda
      @NocnaGlizda 2 роки тому

      @@el_slender This means that you have played few games, know little games or like few games, or have chosen ignorance. There are simply too many games to cast such sentences that are highly unreal. You probably wanted to say in another way that you would like this game very much. How much can you read from the comments of people you don't know!

    • @jakedill1304
      @jakedill1304 2 роки тому

      You don't need sleep as long as you remember to take your 'Sweet, Sweet, Clean SPEED!'... Available from Mr. Whitey.

    • @Rhetoklaa
      @Rhetoklaa 2 роки тому +3

      @@el_slender i refuse to get hyped like this since ive already survived one decade of early access and promised releases

    • @el_slender
      @el_slender 2 роки тому +1

      @@Rhetoklaa FROM is the one videogame company you can rely on

  • @jard0r
    @jard0r 2 роки тому +884

    It's funny how Game of Thrones was derided as just being "tits and dragons" for so many years despite being so much more than that, but the last two seasons fumbled so badly that they couldn't even properly deliver tits or dragons.

    • @witlessteam901
      @witlessteam901 2 роки тому +50

      The last seasons should've been the darkest, most hopeless of them all. Pure dire and sad ends to the characters and the world. I mean some moments were, but the writing failed them miserably.

    • @jard0r
      @jard0r 2 роки тому +47

      @@witlessteam901 Exactly. Episode 2 of season 8 was the best of the bunch specifically because it was full of moments of characters saying goodbye and preparing to face certain death. And the writers squandered the only character work that they actually bothered to do by letting almost everyone live.

    • @jard0r
      @jard0r 2 роки тому +14

      @Adolfus Hitler Exactly. And the Night King should have been the final boss, not Cersei. The entire point of the White Walkers was that they were going to steamroll the fuck out of the pettily squabbling factions of Westeros if they didn't get their shit together. So why the hell did they just end up being a distraction for the cast while Cersei girlbossed her way to foetal alcohol syndrome? There were only two possible endings for Game of Thrones: either the Lord of the Rings ending where Aragorn unites the kingdoms and repels the existential threat he's been fighting for eight years or the better ending where he fails and the White Walkers kill EVERYONE with their own ignorance and hubris (when you play the game of thrones, you win or you die. A genocide ending would be poetic as fuck because fundamentally, the game is so self-perpetuating through sheer human cuntishness that it can only end with the death of everyone that plays). And in the end, they pussied out of both and cashed GoT in to go and do Star Wars, which is fucking unforgivable. There was so much potential that the ending of season 6 should have been the fucking halfway point, not the start of the climax.

    • @witlessteam901
      @witlessteam901 2 роки тому +1

      @@jard0r oof! Well said.

    • @freakrx2349
      @freakrx2349 2 роки тому

      What about “Dragons with tits?” Any Scalies?

  • @notareptilianiswear.6600
    @notareptilianiswear.6600 2 роки тому +1424

    I mean… dunking on Game of Thrones, especially seasons, is sorta like that time Kanye West played basketball against disabled children and won 106 to nothing.

    • @dally1398
      @dally1398 2 роки тому +235

      I googled it and I’m depressed that this didn’t actually happen

    • @alexf0723
      @alexf0723 2 роки тому +129

      @@dally1398 yet sounds like something that would
      And should

    • @MrNobody47710
      @MrNobody47710 2 роки тому +62

      @@alexf0723
      It sounds like something that Kanye West might do.
      He's the expert on doing incredibly awkward things that don't take the general public's future reaction into consideration.

    • @djangounchained9387
      @djangounchained9387 2 роки тому +24

      @@MrNobody47710 AKA he is a genius

    • @MrNobody47710
      @MrNobody47710 2 роки тому +20

      @@djangounchained9387
      Damn straight.
      Genius works in mysterious ways.

  • @vellinghem2187
    @vellinghem2187 2 роки тому +1667

    Are we going to get an essay about how all this relates to Doom Eternal?

    • @DJPeachCobbler
      @DJPeachCobbler  2 роки тому +765

      Elden Ring is gonna be just like Doom Eternal but worse because it's not *really* Doom Eternal

    • @aleshofastora440
      @aleshofastora440 2 роки тому +28

      @@DJPeachCobbler why? I don't get it, I think my english is not good enough to totally understand a complex idea, I'm training though.
      Like, why is it bad to have the writer of GOT books on Elden Ring?

    • @FireGiantFoot
      @FireGiantFoot 2 роки тому +20

      @@aleshofastora440 no he said he like it on the video wdym?

    • @yodasmomisondrugs7959
      @yodasmomisondrugs7959 2 роки тому +9

      My pc can't play Doom Eternal.

    • @aleshofastora440
      @aleshofastora440 2 роки тому +8

      @@FireGiantFoot he said it's good? lol, I'm so confused

  • @Don-ds3dy
    @Don-ds3dy 2 роки тому +372

    "a world where hobbits are submissive and breedable is not for me"
    -I can tell we've got absolutely nothing in common.

  • @brunoactis1104
    @brunoactis1104 2 роки тому +4643

    Even though Lord of The Rings is the greatest story ever told, i still respect your opinion. I'm a humble person, i don't brag about my superior opinion,i respect the inferior ones.

    • @reckermatouvc
      @reckermatouvc 2 роки тому +414

      based

    • @xiiivr
      @xiiivr 2 роки тому +209

      Very based bruv

    • @vukulele1
      @vukulele1 2 роки тому +61

      No, put him on a cross

    • @dungeontomato2688
      @dungeontomato2688 2 роки тому +265

      Agreed, Tolkien folk need not boast to the lower Martin peasants. We are fine letting them fester in their repugnant squalor.

    • @TheAlpha307
      @TheAlpha307 2 роки тому +109

      What a gentleman, and utterly correct as well.

  • @grosslyincandescent3833
    @grosslyincandescent3833 2 роки тому +1403

    A Redditor that can read books?!? My god they are evolving!

    • @TheMattsem
      @TheMattsem 2 роки тому +52

      Reading!
      never heard about audiobooks Boomer

    • @dogg6628
      @dogg6628 2 роки тому +8

      Stinky steve 1000 fart jokes

    • @couldntbeproved1392
      @couldntbeproved1392 2 роки тому +13

      A redditor that read something other than Harry Potter!

    • @The_Best_Copper_Salesman
      @The_Best_Copper_Salesman 2 роки тому +7

      Redditors are capable of reading?

    • @rawadosa90210
      @rawadosa90210 2 роки тому +4

      @@couldntbeproved1392 that and Brandon Sanderson.

  • @Leitis_Fella
    @Leitis_Fella 2 роки тому +715

    "Shadowfax and logic" Good one.
    LOTR is about how power corrupts. The true villain of the story isn't Sauron, but the one ring, which symbolizes power, how power can turn even good intentions to evil, and its destruction is allegory to how the quest for power will eventually consume itself in time.
    Sounds to me like you're more of a Dune guy. Dune is about a dude who is prophesied as a savior figure (when he's actually not), gets followed by people for all the right reasons, and fucks up badly with dire consequences. Frank Herbert wanted to warn against the errors of charismatic leaders, and argues that it's not power that corrupts, but that power attracts the corruptible and shows who you really are.

    • @maxfordjeffsfilms
      @maxfordjeffsfilms 2 роки тому +23

      Dune sounds a heck of a lot similar to Life of Brian

    • @mage0534
      @mage0534 2 роки тому +2

      Huh, need to read it again, it's been a while. Read it as a wee lad initially and I can say I did like it, though I definitely want to go back to ir

    • @mage0534
      @mage0534 2 роки тому

      @Spencer Kraynik damn, aight.

    • @famboozle7668
      @famboozle7668 2 роки тому +5

      God I love dune

    • @Leitis_Fella
      @Leitis_Fella 2 роки тому +4

      @@famboozle7668 Make Cobbler read Dune gang

  • @rumplstiltztinkerstein
    @rumplstiltztinkerstein 2 роки тому +667

    George Martin didn't write the plot of the game. But the world, it's history, and how it works. FromSoftware is building a game in that world while keeping in touch with the godfather's guidance.
    I think this is even better. Because both are doing what they do best without interfering in each other's work.

    • @Solothefuture1
      @Solothefuture1 2 роки тому +23

      I completely agree and excited to see what they cooked up

    • @erickschusterdeoliveira2662
      @erickschusterdeoliveira2662 2 роки тому +8

      Yup, they were presented a world and told "have fun".

    • @dovhadark7108
      @dovhadark7108 2 роки тому +4

      I would say it's the total oposite actually
      george martin work is heavily axed on politics influencing characters interactions and choices, especially against difficult and unfair situations
      but fromsoftware worldbuilding is on another level as much as it is the core aspect of their game, the vector by wich they transmit their philosopy about rotte, the passage of time, enthropy, fate, karma, and ineluctability
      they clearly are master at designing cosmic forces and influences that dictate the course of a world and one just need to look at concepts like the eternal dragons, the first flame, the first sin, the old one, the great ones, and the idea of kings to realize this

    • @rumplstiltztinkerstein
      @rumplstiltztinkerstein 2 роки тому

      @@dovhadark7108 I have no idea about anything you just mentioned. No offence.

    • @dovhadark7108
      @dovhadark7108 2 роки тому +2

      @@rumplstiltztinkerstein no offence taken, I didn't made the souls games after all
      although I would never miss an occasion to recomend them
      I advise you to play them, their cool, fun and fascinating

  • @justinchalifoux4424
    @justinchalifoux4424 2 роки тому +577

    The thing that’s got me most hyped for Elden Ring is that this isn’t going to be Dark Souls where Hope is gone and all that’s left to do is abandon this world and run into a literal painting.
    No. In Elden Ring, Miyazaki has said that the theme for Elden Ring is “ambition”. The world ISNT beyond repairing, hope for the world to return to as it was still exists!
    But the thing is... everybody else will have the ambition to “fix” the world, turn it into what they see fit. And if we look at Berserk, we all know what ambitious people are willing to do to fulfill their goals... and Miyazaki is anything if not a HUGE berserk fan.
    So what horrible things will we need to do to fulfill OUR dreams? What horrible act will WE have to do to figure out our dreams? What dregs will we need to cooperate with to do just that? The lines of good and bad will be easy to see... at first. But I guarantee that maybe the shattering of the Elden Ring... is not all that it seems. And I’m sure that others in the world might agree with me...
    And how will we be able to deal with the consequences that come with those decisions? THAT is the most hype aspect of this game.
    What will we Tarnished need to do?

    • @reckermatouvc
      @reckermatouvc 2 роки тому +8

      Just like Demon's Souls

    • @chesterstevens8870
      @chesterstevens8870 2 роки тому +10

      "Welcome to Miyazaki '22; everything is fucked, you're fucked, of you try to help at all than it's just going to get MORE fucked!"

    • @custodianvrael6471
      @custodianvrael6471 2 роки тому +7

      Mounted pvp still be sounding like a good hype

    • @szymono862
      @szymono862 2 роки тому +6

      Miyazaki didn't say Elden Ring's theme is ambition, rather that only the character's whose concept art was posted on ER's instagram theme is the will, or ambition of mankind. So if anything it means that the boss will represent it, or maybe his backstory will be related to that.

    • @FireGiantFoot
      @FireGiantFoot 2 роки тому +4

      @@custodianvrael6471 sadly there are no mounted pvp

  • @iNostraD
    @iNostraD 2 роки тому +33

    As a Berserk fan, hearing Guts’ theme play while you’re talking about the permanent hiatus of the A Song of Ice & Fire books hit too close to home.

  • @larrytotter5790
    @larrytotter5790 2 роки тому +43

    Having played a fair portion of Elden Ring, it's really amazing how right Cobbler can be

  • @Silver-Arrow
    @Silver-Arrow 2 роки тому +96

    the only thing more complicated than Game of Throne's character motivations is Cobbler's tree of "Video Topics that can involve DOOM at some point"

  • @FirstLast-bv9tm
    @FirstLast-bv9tm 2 роки тому +26

    “Permanent hiatus”
    Starts playing Gut’a Theme. You bastard

    • @AC-hj9tv
      @AC-hj9tv 10 місяців тому +2

      Gut'a 😂

  • @jacksonx7251
    @jacksonx7251 2 роки тому +114

    Once 'The Winds of Winter' is released I'll have to reread the books. I ran through them in about 2 months right after I graduated high school. The show had some real promise through the first 4 seasons. Then season 5 and 6 started to slip and season 7 and 8 fell off a cliff. So sad. I hope to one day play a fantasy RPG with as much depth and variety as ASOIAF.

    • @codydavenport8429
      @codydavenport8429 2 роки тому +8

      I really think GRRM is gonna die before The Winds of Winter ever gets published and I think you may as well forget A Hope for Spring. Another author may finish it off of George's notes but I don't know if I could read another author's work on the series and it not feel like fan fiction to me.

    • @codydavenport8429
      @codydavenport8429 2 роки тому +2

      And I agree with you about the show. Almost like they had no clue wtf they were doing when they ran out of source material.

    • @someguy315
      @someguy315 2 роки тому +2

      Season 6 was kinda good but yeah 7 and 8 were terrible

    • @djangounchained9387
      @djangounchained9387 2 роки тому +2

      @@codydavenport8429 dont worry, grrm will finish writing once dr dre's album detox comes out. Which will be soon.

    • @Solothefuture1
      @Solothefuture1 2 роки тому +2

      @@someguy315 I agree. I enjoyed s1-6 but 7 started to feel strange and then 8 was weird as hell. This coming from someone that didn’t watch as it was coming out over the years but binging the entire series last month

  • @UseTheLess00
    @UseTheLess00 2 роки тому +83

    "when you play a Dark Souls it feels effortless"
    Me after dying for the billionth time to The Nameless King: Yeah, sure. Effortless.

  • @supersmash64dnothing57
    @supersmash64dnothing57 2 роки тому +74

    man makes a heavily scripted, and edited video because he is hyped for video game. I've been there too

    • @SeaSerpentLevi
      @SeaSerpentLevi 2 роки тому +1

      AND pissed at GoT, which is basically a moral obligation hahaha

  • @tiy-ee1075
    @tiy-ee1075 2 роки тому +89

    I can't wait to see what Mr. Martin decides to write I love his novels, and the show inspired by the novels are godlike.

    • @chesterstevens8870
      @chesterstevens8870 2 роки тому +1

      GRRM is going to burst his own stomach on sheetcake before He finishes the next book. Read his blog and tell me that He hasn't just given up and decided to die like a horse who decided to eat itself to death.

    • @450nc
      @450nc 2 роки тому +13

      @@chesterstevens8870 Dude. Go Outside. Touch some grass. The level of degeneracy you just displayed can’t be healthy for any human being.

    • @jamaphy8621
      @jamaphy8621 2 роки тому +2

      @@chesterstevens8870 wtf

    • @rawadosa90210
      @rawadosa90210 2 роки тому +2

      @@chesterstevens8870 You need help.

    • @misanthropicservitorofmars2116
      @misanthropicservitorofmars2116 9 місяців тому

      @@rawadosa90210why are you booing? He’s right? Lol
      George ain’t releasing winds of winter while he’s alive.

  • @skii1410
    @skii1410 2 роки тому +77

    When he said “there’s one moment, from one game that captures this” I was one nerve ending away from chucking my phone if he brought up doom eternal 😂

  • @brendan7870
    @brendan7870 2 роки тому +67

    I am excited mr cobbler, now make a hades video while I get to actually watching this one.

  • @skippy_the_funny_guy
    @skippy_the_funny_guy 2 роки тому +33

    Kinda feel like the writers of Game of Thrones did the same thing as the Berserk 2016-2017 anime did to the manga. You know. Cut out plot points, character development, and key elements etc. Anyone else appreciate the Guts theme song he played in this?

    • @yuvalgabay1023
      @yuvalgabay1023 2 роки тому +5

      Anteal s4 the show was fire. + Cutting is needed whan doing adaptions. You cant adapt a hole book right into a show. Its 2 different medium. And most people felt its keepet the neccerry parts and did them justice while keeping the spirit of the books. And its keeped to its strong point.. live action is the best in the action and characters department (you know acting an stuff) and so the show new how to play to its strong points. After s4 the show want down heal

    • @Ph3nom1998
      @Ph3nom1998 2 роки тому +4

      @@yuvalgabay1023 I agree, its also important to say that up to season 04, the show did produce some of their scenes that were amazing IMO. Like Arya and Tywin and the conversation between Varys and Little Finger about power. But yeah, once season 04 was the last great season of the show

  • @Mechpilot0790
    @Mechpilot0790 5 місяців тому +7

    Now, playing Elden Ring in 2024, the way the lore unfolds environmentally and informs your decisions indirectly really does combine Martin and Miyazaki perfectly. Over the course of everything, the more you pay attention the more you realize even before the shattering that world was always headed towards it. Gods and Demigods are shown to be petty, selfish idiots, consumed with the idea that everyone but them is wrong. The variety of ways the story can conclude is fantastic, because it relies on your own biases, both in playstyle and decision making.

  • @paladingeorge6098
    @paladingeorge6098 2 роки тому +90

    Well Cobbler didn't shoe-horn in Doom Eternal in this one so I have to do it for him.
    Doom Eternal dunks on Game of Thrones because Game of Thrones doesn't rip and tear, except for the bed sheets. Doom guy's motivations are simple, effective and unaffected by the literal end of the world. He only desires to destroy demons, not pussy. And that motivation will persist if everyone else is dead - because they are. Doom Eternal is good because it couldn't kill off characters for shock value even if it wanted to.

    • @MedicineMan55
      @MedicineMan55 2 роки тому +8

      The Doom music was in the background while he was starting to dump on the show, so Doom Eternal was sorta there in spirit.

    • @Emperorerror
      @Emperorerror 2 роки тому

      doom eternal showed up when he said "my favorite developer that isn't id software"

  • @starcannonsupernova293
    @starcannonsupernova293 2 роки тому +116

    elden ring's story is finished for one and doesn't have to make shit up halfway
    and fuck it up

  • @SKU11CRU5HER115
    @SKU11CRU5HER115 2 роки тому +21

    I'm only 2 minutes in and this video already dropped about 6 jokes that tickle my funny bone just the right way. You hold the humor crown on UA-cam right now in my eyes and it's easy to tell you do it by making jokes for yourself before anybody else and I fuckin appreciate that. Its a pleasure watching this channel grow, keep doing what ur doin

  • @canadianorange9676
    @canadianorange9676 2 роки тому +85

    I know this is going to get buried, and I'm ok with that.
    But I just want to say thank you for making these videos. I love listening to them and absorbing as many ideas as I can. Your video about doom eternal made me realize just how much fun I wasn't having with games.
    Every new video is great to me. Please keep going if you want, I'll follow.

  • @dungeontomato2688
    @dungeontomato2688 2 роки тому +338

    Great video cobbler, your filthy, putrid, and unworthy opinions aside I really enjoyed it!
    JK, you sinned against the almighty Tolkien and the penalty is death.

    • @Ballin4Vengeance
      @Ballin4Vengeance 2 роки тому +4

      Pain is too merciful a fate for a heretic against International Nerdery.

  • @kaybeeva
    @kaybeeva 2 роки тому +138

    You're essentially a GDC conference that's actually fun to watch. I really like these video game deep dives that you're making. I recently found your channel & just been bingeing it bit by bit; appreciating the alternative thoughts you've had on gaming facets like mechanics, setting design, player motivation, etc & how they apply to the players. Keep up the humorous takes too, so more folks can get a slice Pepsi flavored peachy goodness.

  • @marcoauan
    @marcoauan 2 роки тому +20

    Dont talk about dark tower, i still cry everytime i remember the movie

    • @johnr797
      @johnr797 2 роки тому +2

      You mean the three movies that crashed into each other?

    • @PrionicProteins
      @PrionicProteins 2 роки тому +1

      Big shame, that.

    • @DJPeachCobbler
      @DJPeachCobbler  2 роки тому +6

      If there are other worlds than these, that means there's a world where the movie was good

  • @AdisonEverywhere
    @AdisonEverywhere 2 роки тому +10

    Please never change cobbler, your content is so captivating and I constantly find myself answering the thought provoking questions you ask continuously throughout the day.

  • @bloodysimile4893
    @bloodysimile4893 Рік тому +4

    Unlike the LOTR author who finished his story, the song of ice and fire author subverts expectation on never finishing his damn story. Brave and stunning.

  • @TheAlpha307
    @TheAlpha307 2 роки тому +79

    I can see what you mean about The Lord of the Rings, despite me watching it annually and not getting tired of it. However, you know how many new stories are a dissection of old tropes? Well, they become tropes because the formula works, and LOTR is the best of them, it earns all its moments and despite the "sappiness" it wins hearts. The problem is, many stories used the formula like a crutch, but I still think stories like LOTR can be successful. Fantasy deconstruction stories are not inherently better, they are just more appealing because we are constantly thrown poorly made fantasy flicks over relying on the same ideas without earning those moments.

    • @spooked_potato1384
      @spooked_potato1384 2 роки тому +1

      Can you give me an example of sorts of how you can make and earn an emotional conflict?
      I'm a newbie writer and honestly this comment in particular sounds very interesting

    • @TheAlpha307
      @TheAlpha307 2 роки тому +18

      @@spooked_potato1384 Making emotional conflict is easy, earning it, is not. Take John Wick, the first few minutes we are told his wife died, he gets a puppy ordered beforehand by his dead wife, and a few minutes later the puppy is dead. A dead puppy, quite an easy bait for emotional conflict, John is mad, we are mad, but its very shallow, you can't make a story off this. John Wick works because its all about John kicking ass, the dog is just a means.
      The Lord of the Rings introduces you to its big cast of characters at a good pace, you have a good idea of who they are and their motivations before they set out together. I'll focus on how Gandalf and Aragorn are used. Gandalf becomes the backbone of everything rather quickly, he acts with purpose and jumpstarts the whole adventure. Everyone is guided by him and they all trust him, this is established time and time again. Then in Moria, Gandalf of all people sacrifices himself to stop the Balrog, leaving the whole fellowship distraught and leaderless. That is earned emotional conflict, the death of an developed and essential character.
      Throughout the movie Aragorn is setup as a natural leader, honorable and brave. Yet he fears the weakness of his lineage, which fell to the ring's power. It is because of this he runs away from ruling Gondor. Boromir who is a soldier of Gondor dislikes this so called heir to the throne. As the story goes on, Aragorn proves his worth time and time again, demonstrating a strong will despite the temptation of the ring, something which Boromir fails to achieve. In the end Boromir dies and retains his honor, fighting to save the Hobbits, despite having attacked Frodo moments before. Aragorn kills the Uruks and Boromir accepts him as a leader and his king before dying. Aragorn considers his duty seriously for the first time as Boromir calls him king and takes an arm guard of Gondor from Boromir, both as a memento and a reminder of his duty. That is growth and earned emotional conflict.

    • @myusernameusedtobereallycr2075
      @myusernameusedtobereallycr2075 2 роки тому +8

      @@TheAlpha307 John wick works because its almost a parody of other action movies, like usually they kill the badasses entire family or some shit like The Punisher but here the kid kills his dog and he responds by killing like 100 people including the kid and the dad, like the fact that his violence is pretty unjustifiable is part of what makes John Wick a legitimately quite scary character hes a ruthless, amoral person but with determination that in most movies would be seen as heroic.

    • @spooked_potato1384
      @spooked_potato1384 2 роки тому +4

      @@TheAlpha307 that is some genuinely good advice,thank you

  • @user-sp8nw8zj4x
    @user-sp8nw8zj4x 2 роки тому +14

    The Elden Ring will be a good, maybe even amazing game, but we shouldn't set the bar too high yet. Cyberpunk 2077 never forget.

    • @Slender_Man_186
      @Slender_Man_186 2 роки тому +2

      Lol CDPR has always had a reputation for releasing broke, unpolished messes, just look at the launch of The Witcher 3, or 2, or even the first Witcher. From Soft has basically only made great games, never perfect, but even their worst is still pretty damn good.

    • @placeholder2586
      @placeholder2586 2 роки тому

      @@Slender_Man_186 first for everything

    • @trollerblack
      @trollerblack 2 роки тому +1

      @@placeholder2586 They'll be the first to not fk up eh

    • @placeholder2586
      @placeholder2586 2 роки тому

      @@trollerblack you know what sure I admire your optimism

  • @maras00jr49
    @maras00jr49 2 роки тому +29

    Since you like Martin that much I suggest reading Joe Abercrombie.
    He nails the moraly ambiguous characters

    • @iaginger
      @iaginger 2 роки тому

      Bayaz's sudden change actually annoyed the shit out of me

    • @SeaSerpentLevi
      @SeaSerpentLevi 2 роки тому +2

      Martin is making me wish life were longer so we could have him writing more and more, put out every project that crazy mind could come up with.
      The man is just a fountain of good shit holy crap

    • @zentralratderumherschweife1218
      @zentralratderumherschweife1218 2 роки тому

      @@iaginger i thought the story hinted very much on him being a shady character and not a kind and nice wizard, like the first book presents him at the beginning. But yeah, the ultimate revelation got me big time

    • @adamantiiispencespence4012
      @adamantiiispencespence4012 Рік тому

      No he really doesn't. His stuff is really ahlocky.

  • @Cheezmonka
    @Cheezmonka 2 роки тому +28

    I'm sure your take on LotR here is partly portrayed as it is for the laughs, but I'd like to point out that "good people are good and bad people are bad" is absolutely not a significant theme for the series.

  • @astorvialaw4980
    @astorvialaw4980 2 роки тому +4

    This video aged well.

  • @joeysoxjr.6268
    @joeysoxjr.6268 2 роки тому +24

    Mr. Cobble Sir... Can you do a cross over with your good friend Todd Howard? It would be very epic.

  • @karlsigamoney
    @karlsigamoney 2 роки тому +26

    "When you play a Fromsoftware game it feels effortless" tell that to Gael and my 59 deaths

  • @trevorstone9060
    @trevorstone9060 2 роки тому +63

    “No price was paid…”
    Sorry Gandalf. I know you lay alone for an eternity and underwent tremendous torture off screen and remained pure and good despite that, but that’s just not the type of sacrifice we are looking for. Maybe next time push Pippin down the well to give your character some development, then we’ll talk.

    • @collinb.8542
      @collinb.8542 2 роки тому +3

      Lmao

    • @antonioguanimez3464
      @antonioguanimez3464 2 роки тому +4

      That was never communicated in the movies

    • @daveyjoneslocker4703
      @daveyjoneslocker4703 2 роки тому

      HAHAHA

    • @daveyjoneslocker4703
      @daveyjoneslocker4703 2 роки тому +5

      @@antonioguanimez3464 good thing this video isn’t just about movies. When he’s talking about GoT he focuses on the books they were adapted from so it’s only fair to rebuttal his (wrong) assessments with the books the lotr movies were adapted from.

    • @mum-your
      @mum-your 10 місяців тому

      @@daveyjoneslocker4703 wow, gandalf was "tortured", what a great description of torture was given by tolkein. he surely suffered alot. bruh boromir suffered more from that broken sword than gandalf ever did during his "torture" sessions

  • @joeeljalapeno1816
    @joeeljalapeno1816 2 роки тому +11

    I doubt You could even imagine that which commands the stars giving light to his fullest bright

  • @fenrishellhound3982
    @fenrishellhound3982 2 роки тому +6

    A ten minute rant combined with an almost three and a half minute payoff?
    It's definitely a Cobbler video. Keep up the good work man.

  • @S.A.O.D.A
    @S.A.O.D.A 2 роки тому +7

    Funnily enough, I fear I won't even notice a difference because Miyazaki's lore is already god-tier.

  • @sonkeschmidt2027
    @sonkeschmidt2027 2 роки тому +7

    The pint of simple and virtuous stories like lord of the rings is that they are memorable. They are meant to be easily understood, it's more a mythology than a story really, it's an extraction of the archetypes put in a framework that makes those archetypes personal and somewhat relateable, bringing them into human form but with so much contrast that the borders are easy to recognise. That's why for some it may feel like it is for children of course, since that simplicity makes it stand out from reality. But without that it's easy to get lost in the complexity of reality without knowing what is what. How do you know that your choice is bad without a concept of what is bad and what is good? And of course even if those archetypes are remembered, in the complex mess of human life they can't be spottet clearly since they are mixed and interwoven into each other. The challenge is to unravel and unweave these archetypes to bring order to the Chaos just like the myth tells us, just for real this time.
    To have more complex or "adult" video games is a wish for more practice in my opinion, in a world closer resembling reality but but having the same severe consequences for mistakes. A playground where you are save to explore different outcomes without having to face the consequences for the rest of your life.
    It's a way of getting to know the world so that we have a better idea of how to operate, how to make choices within it.

  • @ryann865
    @ryann865 2 роки тому +13

    Cobbler you should read the manga BERSERK. I think you would like it. Plus dark souls takes massive inspiration from the series.

    • @CraftyChicken91
      @CraftyChicken91 2 роки тому +4

      He uses Gut's theme at 8:28
      I'm willing to bet he's read it.

    • @ryann865
      @ryann865 2 роки тому

      @@CraftyChicken91 Guts theme is a popular meme. Many know it without knowing the origin.

  • @TheAustin007powers
    @TheAustin007powers 2 роки тому +7

    I love that you're still putting Doom into every video. Don't ever stop.

  • @Bajaisus
    @Bajaisus 2 роки тому +4

    So I watched the whole vid and when you mentioned dark souls like 10 mins in I was like "OH YH THATS WHY I CLICKED". :) nice vid!

  • @LordTactusMe
    @LordTactusMe 2 роки тому +4

    I think LotR is great for what it is. A tale about good guys fighting the evil, being tempted, traveling the cool fantasy world and so on. Not everything needs to be morally challenging imo and there’s a lot of place in this world for all the things to exist (even anime). I can understand why someone who loves ASOIAF won’t like LotR. Martin himself said that he wrote it in many ways to address the questions and simplicity that existed in the LotR series.

  • @mathewrobson9968
    @mathewrobson9968 2 роки тому +7

    So UA-cam has recommended me you're videos, and they're really good, and I love this.
    This video was a perfect examplar of a personal review and breakdown of its given topic. A damn near master class if I may.
    And also you sound like angry matpat and I'm so sorry I can't unhear that

  • @TheHorreK2
    @TheHorreK2 2 роки тому +4

    I will never give up hope on the next Song of Ice and Fire Chapter!... i simply cannot accept that the Game of Thrones series will be the last thing we will have in mind for ever now

    • @sidecharacter7165
      @sidecharacter7165 Рік тому

      Bruh the Valroan Stewl armor introduced at the end of the last book.

  • @SweetArmadillo361
    @SweetArmadillo361 2 роки тому +3

    Criticizing the foundation of the sword and sorcery genre? Sounds like redittor mischief to me.

  • @josepaolo6507
    @josepaolo6507 2 роки тому +2

    If the game doesn't crash, maybe i'd be able to tell you

  • @Uniquenameosaurus
    @Uniquenameosaurus Рік тому +2

    Watched this whole ass video before realising it came out before Elden Ring

    • @Z.O.M.G
      @Z.O.M.G Рік тому

      Your Demon Slayer video is cool

  • @TheHoneyBadger-yh5vj
    @TheHoneyBadger-yh5vj 6 місяців тому +3

    Sorry but I disagree with you on the LOTR. In my opinion is one of the best books ever made.

  • @lolcatsravenight
    @lolcatsravenight 2 роки тому +6

    Cobbler's final question, I thought that was what Death Stranding was already supposed to do, no?

    • @DJPeachCobbler
      @DJPeachCobbler  2 роки тому +2

      Was it? I never bought into/kept up with the hype, played the game on PC a year after it came out

  • @CreditedJester2
    @CreditedJester2 2 роки тому +1

    Every single one of the endings for your videos breaks my heart every time and ima need you to stop my good sir 😭

  • @protocolsummit103
    @protocolsummit103 2 роки тому +2

    Not a fan of Tolkien but to be fair, when Tolkien did what he did, nobody had done it before and still nobody has come close to the worlds of Tolkien. Yeah his characters are not really that deep in terms of how they represent their humanity like in Martin's books. But what Tolkien did was leave behind a legacy and a concrete floor on which even YOU can start your own Lord of the Rings type of universe.
    Tolkien showed us the potential of a fantasy world like LOTR and that is okay by me.
    Without him there may have been no ASOIAF.

  • @Sen.say.
    @Sen.say. 2 роки тому +3

    Like fine wine

  • @MrBunbun432
    @MrBunbun432 2 роки тому +5

    As a massive fan of the book series, the show was a huge disappointment. And now my favourite dessert decisively shits all over it. Validation feels good man.

  • @andrewjones162
    @andrewjones162 2 роки тому +1

    I just noticed how he plays the berserk theme over the revelation on how SOIAF is never ending

  • @pandemoniousivy4651
    @pandemoniousivy4651 2 роки тому +2

    Needed to come back to this. Bless your heart you called it.

  • @Falkenhorst2000
    @Falkenhorst2000 2 роки тому +3

    I have to disagree with you on the concept or virtue having to be a liability in order to be realistic. That's not how the world works. That's not even how it works in ASoIaF. Yes, Ned was a virtuous and naive man, but he was also just. He inspired his people and had a lot of positive influence on them. Influence and popularity are very tangible very real things in real world politics, and even in real life there have been monarchs who have done reprehensible things but ultimately did their best to serve their people. Ned Stark did not die because it was the logical conclusion, Ned Stark died because Joffrey was a fucking idiot who knew nothing about politics. Even his fucking MOM knew that this was a horrible idea. For all his virtue and naivite, Ned Stark commanded respect and influence, BECAUSE of his popularity, BECAUSE of his virtue! When he died, it sparked (or significantly brought along) a fucking war that cost the Five Kingdoms everything. THAT is the reality of "good characters being good", not this cynical bullshit that jaded internet edgelord tryhards try to spread who have never even talked to living breathing person outside.
    God, I am so fucking tired of people always being like "realism = cynicism", that's not how the real world out there works. Reality is not that simple. If it was, John Rabe would have been shot or starved after the war, Berlin Wall would have never fallen, the Iranian Revolution would have never gone through, or the battle of Castle Itter would have never happened.
    Personally, I operate on the view: Drama that hinges on
    1) Horrible characters being horrible for the sake of being horrible in a world that is horrible solely due to contrived circumstance, (or simply, everyone being "Stupid Evil")
    and 2) Characters being unreasonable idiots
    is fundamentally bad drama. (Case in point: Season 8)

  • @dude6957
    @dude6957 2 роки тому +4

    I wonder what thoughts this guy would have about the Berserk, the story that inspired Dark souls.

  • @CrazyzzzDudezzz
    @CrazyzzzDudezzz 9 місяців тому

    Your mind is incredible. I’m always blown away by the quality of writing in these video essays.

  • @dovahfett5919
    @dovahfett5919 2 роки тому +1

    Cobbler talking about Lady Stoneheart, something I never expected but never knew I needed

  • @jedediahhopkins6051
    @jedediahhopkins6051 2 роки тому +6

    Thank you. I read the books huge fan. And despise the show so much. So thanks for finally representing the boiling nerd rage we all felt towards this show

  • @LamiNalchor
    @LamiNalchor 2 роки тому +3

    I absolutely agree about Song of Ice and Fire and Lord of the Rings.

  • @hyrulehollowtitan9657
    @hyrulehollowtitan9657 Місяць тому

    One of the best essays I’ve ever seen and it’s under a 1k views? May the algorithm bless more people with this video

  • @brettfitzgerald6280
    @brettfitzgerald6280 2 роки тому +2

    You work hard on your content and it shows. Thank you, for your razor-sharp critique and even sharper authenticity. I appreciate the way the videos come off more like conversations with a friend than a lecture, despite your research and scripting. Looking forward to seeing you blow up, with stellar content like this it won't be long.

    • @nenadmilovanovic5271
      @nenadmilovanovic5271 2 роки тому

      I agree with the vide except when he equates Lotr with fantasy as a genre which is just wrong. Fantasy existed way before Lotr, and many fantasy writers refuse to be influenced by Tolkien.

  • @komradekalashnikov7495
    @komradekalashnikov7495 2 роки тому +5

    Day one of asking Cobbler to review Farcry 5

    • @user-uh7cb3vy4v
      @user-uh7cb3vy4v 2 роки тому

      I am waiting too, brother

    • @komradekalashnikov7495
      @komradekalashnikov7495 2 роки тому

      @@user-uh7cb3vy4v same

    • @myusernameusedtobereallycr2075
      @myusernameusedtobereallycr2075 2 роки тому

      @@komradekalashnikov7495 I feel like farcry 5 is pretty mid tho, like all there is to say is that it had a couple fairly cool villains and ideas but it was too underdeveloped to be anything special, I would say its like a 6 or 7/10 if im rating it as a product(because farcry gameplay is always pretty fun ngl) but as a piece of art its like a 4 or 5

    • @komradekalashnikov7495
      @komradekalashnikov7495 2 роки тому

      @@myusernameusedtobereallycr2075 I have played the Far Cry series since three and have been impressed with the engaging story, characters, and game play. Each Far Cry provides a unique setting and antagonist in which you have to defeat. Far Cry 5 attests to past great Far Cry's such as three and four. The game play is fun, it seems like random and exciting opportunities occur just to provide a more variety of encounters in the world. The open world is beautiful and it is fun to just hop in a car and just explore and look at the scenery, Missions are not repetetive, instead of your usual story missions and then the same side quests the world throws random scenarios and you and no side mission is ever the same. The story of ultra radical cultists intrigues the player and really makes you think morally with certain situations you are placed in. Overall the games is incredibly engaging an is a fun experience for anyone interested in a fun FPS with stellar open world that is changing every second.

    • @komradekalashnikov7495
      @komradekalashnikov7495 2 роки тому

      look go watch Far Cry Five 2 years later its great

  • @sebastiandurando2493
    @sebastiandurando2493 2 роки тому +4

    I remember when the rumors about a GRRM and From collaboration started to spread, I laughed my ass off, my favorite author and my favorite game dev? No fucking way, then they started to get real and holy shit we are so close.
    As for Winds... what can I say that hasn't been said, I haven't given up all hope, but I can accept it if it never comes out... or so I tell myself.

  • @famtomerc
    @famtomerc Місяць тому +2

    aged like wine btw

  • @miguelhenriquecosta
    @miguelhenriquecosta 2 роки тому +2

    You are a great storyteller, and little brings me more excitement than seeing a new update.

  • @moorfunky674
    @moorfunky674 2 роки тому +3

    I feel like this was an old cobbler script he decided to finish after his precipitous leap into his more recent videos lol.

  • @no-ev1om
    @no-ev1om 2 роки тому +4

    cannot wait to get sum elden bling

  • @samuelcotrim490
    @samuelcotrim490 2 роки тому +1

    For 7 years I was waiting for this video. Thank you, Mr. Cobbler, for ending my wait. Now I can rest...

  • @SourSourSour
    @SourSourSour Місяць тому

    I never had an interest in the show when it was popular, but thank you single handedly getting me to read the books. I've been going through it slowly and enjoying myself immensely

  • @iamtenurial
    @iamtenurial 2 роки тому +3

    Why do I hear doom music?

  • @JohnSmith-pq8gk
    @JohnSmith-pq8gk 2 роки тому +7

    I feel like part of the problem is the limited themes and ideas you can convey in a film/show adaptation of a long ass series of books. A lot of sacrifices have to be made to both fit the time limitations and the audiences ability to conect to it through the medium of cinema. Also, what makes good film adaptations good is: making something different so we're not just waiting on the show to animate our favorite part of the book.

  • @PenumbranWolf
    @PenumbranWolf 2 роки тому +2

    When I played through the third Dark Souls I made the same character I always make. Point of Fact, I made THE same character because in my own personal head-cannon despite the plot telling me that each Arisen, or Chosen Undead, or Ashen One, is burnt to a literal and metaphorical cinder after the fact I was still me and I had been here before... And Gwynn damn it if that wasn't what I got. Dark Souls 3 felt less like saving the world and more like going through the motions and collecting a bunch of wayward youths after a wild kegger. So, when I got to the Kiln for the third time and looked out at the world that was, and had been for a bit too long this time, I was tired and the world was tired. So instead of burning myself out, as I had already done playing the game and the two before it, I sat down with my best gal the Keeper and watched the sun burn out. I'd earned that. And I'll be goddamned if I was going to waste all this soul juice I just collected on the stupid world that was already here lasting a bit longer when it produced that Asshole Sullivahn and that fuck-nut puss monster he let crawl up Gwynndolyn's perfect ass. So I'll take being the new Gwynn over roasting myself.

  • @roybatty9935
    @roybatty9935 2 роки тому +2

    The Guts theme was well timed and now I'm sad bc Miura is dead. Also, I'm a 6'6" bearded straight man, and I also love Lana del Rey.

  • @leavemealone1128
    @leavemealone1128 2 роки тому +4

    If u don't like fantasy consider giving berserk a shot if u haven't already it's a masterpiece
    EDIT: The manga not the tv shows

    • @augustuslunasol10thapostle
      @augustuslunasol10thapostle 2 роки тому +1

      Don't give the CG version a shot though the story is interesting though

    • @esssss8415
      @esssss8415 2 роки тому +1

      @@augustuslunasol10thapostle Well ya if you’re going to start berserk the only right option is the manga.

    • @augustuslunasol10thapostle
      @augustuslunasol10thapostle 2 роки тому

      @@esssss8415 or the og anime as it was really good itself though pales in comparison to the manga

    • @esssss8415
      @esssss8415 2 роки тому

      @@augustuslunasol10thapostle Yes the 90s anime is also great however it only covers a small chunk of the manga unfortunately.

    • @leavemealone1128
      @leavemealone1128 2 роки тому +1

      @@esssss8415 yup I edited that in there I haven't watched the 97 anime but that ones supposed to be pretty good.

  • @redthe_hound
    @redthe_hound 2 роки тому +4

    is it bad id like to hear you whine about game of thrones for a whole other video or two

    • @sebastiandurando2493
      @sebastiandurando2493 2 роки тому

      It will be years until people stop whining about GoT, it is just really fun and a very unique situation.

  • @epicx4309
    @epicx4309 2 роки тому +1

    Man I still miss those curious case videos. But it is always nice to see some more cobbler!

  • @Squiggly6942
    @Squiggly6942 2 роки тому +1

    God I love those books.
    In the books, when you leave a character, then later return... the start of that chapter is always this euphoric feeling of, "I can't wait to know what will happen next."
    Maybe it is just me, but since the chapters are just characters, like you leave the John chapter then later return to another John chapter, they feel so connected. So even though you are bouncing between characters, all you need is the name at the top of a chapter to bring you back into their story. Awesome.

  • @pennwardpennington
    @pennwardpennington 2 роки тому +3

    Great video, you goddamn cobbler
    If your a fan of song and ice and fire but still want more like it, you should read up on Berserk by Kentaro Miura. Imagine if the writing put into SoIaF or LotR were illustrated by the most talented artist of our era.
    Edit: Just heard Guts theme at 8:26 so... Yeah.

    • @AC-hj9tv
      @AC-hj9tv 10 місяців тому +2

      Sup weeb

  • @AoTheMighty
    @AoTheMighty 2 роки тому +5

    This pie man is dope

  • @daelaenor
    @daelaenor 2 роки тому +2

    Fuck it, I'll read the books even if it might end up being discontinued.

  • @CoachCarter102
    @CoachCarter102 2 роки тому +1

    I was ready for an Elden Ring video but instead I got what I needed.

  • @floppa7101
    @floppa7101 2 роки тому +3

    Is wolfenstein the new order as good as Doom eternal. (Or at least almost)

    • @UlookinMe
      @UlookinMe 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, it’s pretty damn good.

    • @ufgbkgchehshid8115
      @ufgbkgchehshid8115 2 роки тому

      Can anything other then perfection hold a candle to absolute perfection

    • @bobby_c07
      @bobby_c07 2 роки тому

      No but it's still good. The sequel however....

  • @plaguepandemic5651
    @plaguepandemic5651 2 роки тому +3

    You know, I would absolutely LOVE to hear your thoughts on a game called Pathologic 2 (no you don't need to play the first one). That game is almost tailor-made for youtube video essays

  • @UncleReamus
    @UncleReamus 2 роки тому +1

    This video needs to be watched by everyone who read the books. You are so right on everything. Also your editing is hysterical. Great video.

  • @EnkiSvohden
    @EnkiSvohden 19 днів тому +1

    I only liked and subscribed because you made a Red Letter Media reference. You now legally owe them 5000 dollars. Congratulations!

  • @Madderthanjoker
    @Madderthanjoker 2 роки тому +3

    Didn't Martin just help with the story ground work and not any of the intricate writing? I love the Souls series but lets be honest, some of the writing just doesn't translate well when they write it from a Japanese studio.

    • @FireGiantFoot
      @FireGiantFoot 2 роки тому +1

      Martin writes the lore and the mythos and the 6 demigods while miyazaki write the naratives and other characters.

  • @zbynektrajer2735
    @zbynektrajer2735 2 роки тому +3

    I am looking forward to Elden ring.
    I also agree, that the Lord of the rings would be so much better if all characters were not just ultimately good or irredeemably evil :/

    • @pwnagepanther5857
      @pwnagepanther5857 2 роки тому

      You should watch the movies or read the books then, one of the main members of the fellowship actually isn't ultimately good or irredeemably evil, his name was Boromir

    • @mum-your
      @mum-your 10 місяців тому

      @@pwnagepanther5857 he was entirely good who was influenced by the ring, like actually read the books before commenting kid

    • @pwnagepanther5857
      @pwnagepanther5857 10 місяців тому

      @@mum-your I’m not sure if you’re retarded or if you’re simply braindead, someone who can be corrupted is not ultimately good. Boromir was shown to be selfish and foolhardy. While he was noble and honorable, he was by no means “ultimately good”. A better example of a character like that would be Aragorn, who unlike Boromir, was not tempted by its power or it’s influence. I HAVE read the books and Tolkien made it abundantly clear that the role of Boromir was not only to show that yes, the ring could corrupt even the most stalwart hearts, but that Boromir was a foil to the character of Aragorn, and that to be a foil, he had to be Aragorn if Aragorn was more flawed. I’m not sure you understand Tolkien so I thought I’d educate you :)

    • @pwnagepanther5857
      @pwnagepanther5857 10 місяців тому

      @@mum-your I could also discuss the fact that even tho Aragorn was shown to be pure of heart and intention, even he suffered doubt and suffered from his own failures as the Heir to Isildur, his struggle with his identity and his won worthiness of the throne, led to him abandoning his duty and people, he saw the quest for the ring as not only as a form of redemption, but an opportunity to show how he could be the king he was born to be, again showing that even Aragorn son of Arathorn is not a perfectly good or just hero, even he makes the wrong decisions and has regrets. Again you’d know this if you read the books. The only truly “evil” characters are creatures like the orca and goblins, or Sauron and Morgoth, due to them all embodying corruption and desecration.

    • @pwnagepanther5857
      @pwnagepanther5857 10 місяців тому

      Also I bet this dude feels abbot dorky considering a good amount of Elden ring characters are just evil to be evil

  • @gingersasquatch94
    @gingersasquatch94 2 роки тому +1

    You underestimate the power of my RGB keyboard, it can be seen from the far reaches of the solar system.

  • @jimpavlidis5915
    @jimpavlidis5915 2 роки тому +2

    According to Martin's blog, he still writes Winds of Winter. So maybe the fire hasn't faded yet...

    • @sebastiandurando2493
      @sebastiandurando2493 2 роки тому +1

      According to Martin, Dance was supposed to come out one year after Feast, it came out almost 6 years later lol. But I still think there is a chance.

    • @yuvalgabay1023
      @yuvalgabay1023 2 роки тому +1

      @@sebastiandurando2493 man SOIAF fans are extacly like HxH fans

    • @sebastiandurando2493
      @sebastiandurando2493 2 роки тому +1

      @@yuvalgabay1023 lol that's been on a long hiatus too right? I don't know if I rather get that or a crappy ending like Attack on Titan did.

    • @The_Ancient_Guardian
      @The_Ancient_Guardian 2 роки тому

      @@yuvalgabay1023 dont make me remenber HxH 😭😭😭😭😭

  • @daveyjoneslocker4703
    @daveyjoneslocker4703 2 роки тому +4

    I find it fascinating that the high fantasy world that created the modern fantasy genre came from Tolkien’s mind; a man who lived through and experienced true horror
    And the edgy morally grey world of ASOIAF came from GRRM; a man who has lived a comfortable life and avoided war
    Maybe there’s more to Tolkien’s world (and genre) that you’re missing.

    • @DJPeachCobbler
      @DJPeachCobbler  2 роки тому +7

      For the love of god, you people. I don't like the books

    • @daveyjoneslocker4703
      @daveyjoneslocker4703 2 роки тому +3

      @@DJPeachCobbler hey buddy that’s fine, I loved your video. I haven’t even finished the books (currently on rotk) but he lived a fascinating life and I think the contrast between the two authors and their world is an interesting one.

    • @daveyjoneslocker4703
      @daveyjoneslocker4703 2 роки тому +3

      @@DJPeachCobbler I’m not some Tolkien elitist. I’ve spent MUCH more time in Westeros than I’ve spent in Middle Earth, and I haven’t even finished either book series yet (partially because I CAN’T finish one of them) and I’m an idiot, so I can’t tell you what you may be missing, but I suspect you may be missing something and I would love a video where you focus on Tolkien. Your takes on fantasy are really good.

    • @Walterdecarvalh0100
      @Walterdecarvalh0100 2 роки тому +1

      @@DJPeachCobbler lmao I know how much it sucks to hate something/it just not being your thing and have everyone around you universally praise it when you mention it.

    • @boros4925
      @boros4925 2 роки тому

      @@DJPeachCobbler for not liking a certain book you have to read it first
      And buddy you did not have even touch lotr and it shows

  • @hjhjkhfkfkd
    @hjhjkhfkfkd 2 роки тому +3

    Tolkien wrote a saga that fathered modern fantasy. Martin writes fantastical erotica fiction. Tolkien was an acclaimed philologist, linguist and translator of ancient poems. Martin played dnd in the 70's. In one hundred years Tolkien will be read and discussed, no one will remember Martin. There is no debate, it is not subjective. Lotr is superior

    • @hjhjkhfkfkd
      @hjhjkhfkfkd 2 роки тому +1

      @BRYAN KENNEL A philologist studies language and language history. I did read the first of the book series, started the second but lost interest. Sorry but it actually annoys me when people compare the two. Sure you can say 'just let people enjoy things' and sure. But it's like hearing someone say 'Abba is better than Mozart'. It's fine to prefer to listen to Abba, I do 9.9/10. But I can honestly say it's because I don't understand music that we'll It's like that with Martin, you can prefer him but admit that it's inferior art.

    • @adamantiiispencespence4012
      @adamantiiispencespence4012 Рік тому

      ​@@hjhjkhfkfkd I don't know how anyone who actually read any A Song of Ice and Fire book without going in with some strong prejudice against it could deride it as fantastic erotica. There actually isn't that much sex in it (and I say that wishing there were even less). But it's a rich tapestry that weaves threads from history, folklore, mythology, Shakespeare and so much other literature. The names of castles, houses and castles are often shot outs to authors that Martin has either been inspired by or worked with. It's probably some of the best character driven fiction in any media this side of Shakespeare.

    • @hjhjkhfkfkd
      @hjhjkhfkfkd Рік тому

      @@adamantiiispencespence4012 Haha, read some other books then if you think that. I'll admit the imagery and characterization is really good, but the characters themselves have no real purpose in the story, hence why he kills them all off. Yes it includes all these elements from history, folklore and mythology (as fiction usually does, don't know why you think that's exceptional); but it's not exactly weaving them together into a purposeful plot. I went in expecting to dislike them, but then I was captured by the first book, there are very very evocative and imaginative scenes. But as I kept reading the series I realized all in all the entire thing is literally just his power fantasy's. He's like an overgrown child with toys. There is no plot, it's just a collage of scenarios that lead into one another, and then once in a while call back to past scenes.
      Sorry, I really disliked them and I think he's a big pervert.

    • @adamantiiispencespence4012
      @adamantiiispencespence4012 Рік тому

      @@hjhjkhfkfkd I find it more likely that you allowed your judgements of the author to interfere with your view of the story. It's not just that he does those things or employs these elements but that he does so in ways that are truly innovative and unique to his setting (so many authors often do so little to change the material that it amounts to thin coat of paint). Often pretty subtle as well with the layers of symbolism to the story (something I started learning about through a whole channel mostly dedicated to decoding the story's symbolism the channel and host is now called David Lightbringer) Also the characters are purposeless? How? I sincerely do not understand that one? I also don't get the "power fantasies" aspect when most our POV characters are either underdogs and are constantly faced with the physical limitations of their power. Or they otherwise grapple with the moral implications of seeking to gain more power or how they should use what they so have.

    • @adamantiiispencespence4012
      @adamantiiispencespence4012 Рік тому

      @@hjhjkhfkfkdAlso toward the "power fantasies" point. I would argue one of the central themes of ASOIAF is critiquing power and stressing how attaining and using power is rife with moral peril even for the sincerely principled or well intentioned. Alot of people scoff at the ,"Aragorn's tax policy" but that's where the whole thing starts. That's the point. It's an attempt to illustrate the idea that when you hold power over a large group of people the most seemingly banal and trivial of your actions will have real consequences for peoples lives and there's the potential for some degree of injustice even there.

  • @mr_blank4413
    @mr_blank4413 11 місяців тому +1

    I would pay an insane amount of money for Miyazaki to make elden ring a series.

  • @dragonleasenuts
    @dragonleasenuts 2 роки тому +1

    Dude! I've been away from UA-cam for a couple of weeks, and your channel became overbulged with views and comments. The largest gz to you.
    Regarding the video, your view toward art media is always strumming my soul strings just right. Like "I believe the games excel at stories where the setting is the star". Thinking about my favorite games - Dark Souls, Soma, Undertale, Stalker - it hit me: they are all asking questions 'who are you?' and 'what are you doing?' through SETTING.
    I'm still waiting for the Game of Thrones book series to be finished, got a reminder on my phone saying "c'mon tubby".
    Dare to say, your excitement toward Elden Ring lit many bonfires, so to speak. Let the desire to explore good games with great setting never go dark.