Pokemon VS A Billion Lions | Fudj's Thesis
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- Опубліковано 31 жов 2020
- An eternal Internet debate - who would win in a fight between one of every Pokemon and a billion lions? It's as synonymous with online discussion at this point as anonymity and being a waste of oxygen! And today, I seek to put it to bed forever, using maths, science, logistics, and straight up zoological facts.
If we're talking Pokemon VS A Billion Lions, I have the answers.
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I truly thought that claiming that my cat - if cloned a billion times would end the world by meowing in unison with himself would be enough to effectively communicate that this video is a joke but clearly I've overestimated Pokemon fans
Lmao, since so much people defend the billion lions with arguments about "knowing a billion is a lot". It just seemed too normal to question
considering that japan uses the metric system its prob celsius or kelvin meaning mecargo is about 3 times as hot as the surface of the sun the core of the sun is about 100 000 000 degree or 100 million degrees
@@L_______ I’m sure they knew that when translating though. The US is like the only country that doesn’t use Celsius
Lions get tired so if kyoger floods the land the lions get tired and drowned
A guy just sent me a link to this video as an argument that the lions win, now I am confuse if the guy is serious or he didn't discovered the video was a joke
Ted is cute but that's not how decibels work 😂
Yeah, otherwise the 7 Billion humans or 20 billion chickens on the planet would've already destroyed it.
If it was, the lions would kill themselves
Did you miss the part where he blew the lid off the logarithmic scale conspiracy?
I knew that didn't make sense but I couldn't be bothered to look it up
Or body temperature for that matter
Just a thing I wanted to point out. Being hotter than the sun would not destroy the earth or even do anything apocalyptic. Lightening is 50,000 degrees which is WAY hotter than the surface of the sun.
Yeah, Macargo would melt the very ground it is on, but would not nuke the entire planet. The anime is inconsistent, but it is perfectly possible for Macargo to be that hot
Lightning is kind of poor comparison, it reaches insane temperatures but only for a very short time. Magcargo would constantly scorch the environment around it which makes a big difference. Not that it would destroy the world tho
Lightning doesn't consistently exist like the sun though. If something as hot as lightning were to just exist for a long period of time we no doubt would feel the effects of it.
@@averyhepburn8092 Lightning also isn't as big as the sun, so even though it would be dangerous it wouldn't be anywhere close to world ending dangerous
Ok, but what if the lions blow on it to cool it down?
For the record, the lions would never actually be able to kill all of the pokemon
Greninja could use soak on Shedinja, turning shedinja into a pure water type. The lions would have to use a grass or electric type move to kill it which they don't have access to
The shedinja would eventually struggle itself to death
@@christianroot6287 what if I does nothing
Have shedinja hold a leppa berry and give it a recycle and boom pokemon win
But we're talking about wild random Pokemons that wouldn't happen. Besides if that was the case the Pokemon wouldn't win, just stall
@@issacTTif the pokemon can't set their moves then can we assume that the lions are not using the move bite but are just biting and cant hit ghost types. Also the lions would die of old age so shedinja would allow the pokemon to win
The image were the girl hugged her Macargo is actually plausible because in the anime we've seen fire Pokemon regulate their body temperatures. Like in the original series where Ash couldn't ride a Ponyta because he didn't earn it's trust and he got burned but later on he rode Ponyta/Rapidash with no problem.
This is true. It says body temp. So it could just mean the core temperature is that hot.
Hard to regulate your body temperature when you already have issues with cooling and solidifying, not to mention that its body is literally lava
@@LoinkLoink Well clearly it can since the girl can hug it lol
Ok but if you find a magcargo in the wild why would it be regulating its temperature. Pokémon can attack magcargo
Also the temperature is likely just a typo since the average temperature of actual magma is about 1800, an entire pokemon's lore broken because someone put in an extra zero.
The logarithmic scale is not real - it's made up, like birds
I will not be responding to any comments goodbye
Ok goodbye good sir
Be warned, I'll send a billion lions to attack you if you don't respond to my comment
decibel is a bad example, because it is a logarithmic scale.
People really overlook the number 1,000,000,000 so I was hoping you’d address it, turns out it’s the biggest point in the video lol
You know what, that's fair.
before i argue this debate. what are the lions base stats
about as strong as two humans allegedly but you didn't hear that from me
@@stogey7583 What are the human's base stats?
@@mladen7641 less than humans in the Pokémon world people can endure more punishment and do more impressive feats
@@mladen7641 around this
Hp:70
Atk:60
Def:50
Sp atk:10
Sp.def50
Spe:40
Where's Tier Zoo when you need him? :(
I think your argument fell apart when you brought PP into it. I don't think pokemon in a realistic setting would be limited by PP, take bite for example. they can only BITE a certain number of times before they start struggling? Lion's and other real world animals don't have PP and can bite way more than 20 times or whatever. And if you DO run with that premise and try to make the distinction that Dark Move Bite isn't the same as an animal (lion) biting and is some sort of supernatural, limited use, pokemon move then we're back to lions being unable to damage ghost types and pokemon win.
Im pretty sure he’s joking
A lion's bite would be normal because lion's don't have dark elemental energy stuff
Still wouldn’t change the fact that some Pokemon can just level an entire continent or just Change the weather
Pokémon do have PP though, whether they're yours, another trainer's, or wild, in-game or anime. No matter what you assume PP-wise for the lions, the ghost Pokémon or the lions will eventually have to struggle. It doesn't matter which because there's no way that 800-odd struggling Pokémon could level a billion lions when Struggle is a single-target move, but one billion lions Struggling (assuming their bites didn't just kill the Pokémon outright) would have no trouble taking out every Pokémon, as Struggle is typeless and can hit Ghost Pokémon as a result. As for global moves like Earthquake, most moves can only hit the Pokémon in the current battle. Moves such as Earthquake might seem like a powerful option until you realize that the other Pokémon in the nearby grass tiles are completely unscathed. As for continent leveling, that's never been shown in a game. The Pokédex and the in-game stories might point toward it, but it's not proven, especially with the Pokédex being untrustworthy. Weather also doesn't really have an effect according to what we've seen in-game. Sandstorms and such when summoned are temporary and localized, rain wouldn't really do much, etc etc.
@@Wyatt_James while it is true that most of the feats either come from: The anime, from legendaries being legendaries, or the pokedex, if we are binding the pokemon by game mechanics that make no sense in the real world then the lions would win because they don't have to take their turn to attack (if they even attacked).
if we do in lore and anime (including the movies) pokemon though, I don't think the lions will ever manage to take down things such as Rayquaza, Hoopa, Arceus, Kyogre, Groudon, or etc. (I would say this because if the lions don't have to wait to take their turn, why should the pokemon?)
Mostly because anime pokemon seem to not care about in game rules at times (such as spamming hyper beams without having to recharge in the case of rayquaza and also having seeming unlimited PP in the case of legendary battles where they spam out moves willy nilly). Also many anime legendaries seem to have unlimited stamina unless they're severely injured
Also something such as Hoopa can just teleport all the lions to the top of mount everest or in the middle of the atlantic ocean and they'll all die
I woke up and saw this in my feed....I genuinely thought I was still dreaming
You probably are, so stay asleep for a few more hours so the rest of us can watch this.
I love this idea, because it gives me the thought that there's going to have to be scuba-diving lions that have to go down and fight pokemon like Lanturn and Relicanth, because they sure as hell aren't going up to fight the lions.
Or being able to even damage Ghost-types, or Ultra Beasts in an alternate dimension
@@shantaeforsmash8287 Bite's a Dark type move, dingus.
@@alexshafer7374
Lions don't have Type powers, so their moves wouldn't deal "Dark" damage
@@jvbon646 I have literally watched somebody bite a ghost before, genius. Keep trying.
@@alexshafer7374
Ghost aren't real, so that's a big "Press (X) to Doubt" for me
Unironically the lions would probably lose. Palkia can literally tear through space, and Necrozma can ABSORB THE SUN
Now THIS is the collab I've been waiting for, Fudj and David Attenborough. Two absolute legends.
"We must not include Magcargo's temperature, to be realistic"
"They would run out of PP"
Yeah because running out of pp is a thing that happens, realistically all the time. Have you ever seen a macargo melt the earth in a pokemon game?
@@abbadon6441 this battle is supposed to take place in real life lmao. Ever seen a regular lion on a Pokémon game?
@@mattabrams3841 Bruv the anime is based of the game, the pokedex just doesnt exist in the game. Of course the pokemon would win if we go by anime standards but really it all started with the game
@@jclorcan08 the Pokédex does exist in the game and it exists in the anime
@@SalmonidSplat Pokedex is false in many ways i mean magcargo being hotter than the sun is uhh
"I cried at Toy Story 3 and I could kill Feebas" is such a powerful statement
I think it would really rely on if the lions could eat the Pokémon. Because in cannon Pokémon don’t need to be fed food but lions do. So if the Pokémon could delay their loss for a few weeks than the lions would be hungry and start to die of starvation and be forced to consume each other. The only solution for the Pokémon to win is to force the lions against each other. Not to mention that lions are known for killing cubs as a power move. There’s no way 1 billion lions could get along where as only 800 or so Pokémon have to get along.
Pokèmon are way more intelligent than lions, so this is actually very plausible.
The scenario assumes a fight between the pokemon and the lions, so methods that involve running away or hiding or starving out the lions doesn’t seem to me like a ‘fight’
@@nuljeon war is like one big fight
and a war tactic is to lay siege, cutting off supply chains and the such
@@Weldedhodag Yeah, besides it's a deathmatch. Nothing is illegal
You didn't mention Steel types. Have you ever tried to bite metal?
Yeah. Didn't think so.
And it doesn't stop there.
Solgaleo. METAL LION! The Pokémon might be outnumbered, but they have a God damned Metal Lion that is able to channel the powers of the Sun on their side.
*One Billion Lions* might be able to take down the Sun.
*One Billion Lions* might be able to take down Pokémon.
But a Metal Lion with Sun Powers might be too much for the *One Billion Lions* to handle.
And Ghost types
Do you think lions would be able to even touch them?
@@HeliosimWorld lions have access to magic
@@HeliosimWorld lions can bite, bite is a dark type move
If the lions can’t hit ghost types, then they would be normal type right? The ghosts can’t hit normal types so unless you give them different moves, it’s a moot point
@@owenjohnson4155 most ghost types have other moves also confuse ray deals with them it just takes a while
This is a thoroughly convincing argument. However, I feel as if you are overlooking one Pokemon that might turn the tide based on the lion roar strategy
Whismur is a stupid rabbit. However, he has an ability called Soundproof, meaning that he is immune to all sound-based attacks. That means that when the lions all roar, he will not know why all of his friends have suddenly died, terrifyingly, their eardrums all rupturing. And he'll probably be cool with that, he seems like he would be pretty anxious in that large of a crowd. However, then he would see a billion lions. Now, I'm not going to argue that the lions would also destroy themselves in the billion king roar - they might, but the argument isn't that fun. However, Whismur won't know what's going on, just that a billion lions are coming at him. And Whismur knows a move called Roar, which is so scary that no matter what, the opponent will run away.
Now, the lions JUST roared. They know the sound of the roar of a billion lions. Whatever Whismur sounds like, because it made them run away, HAS to be more scary than the sound of a billion lions.
I cannot imagine what is scarier than the sound of a billion lions, so I would assume that the billion lions, who know for a fact that they can defeat the sun, would be even more terrified of something that could destroy even them, and would probably run into the ocean and drown until we ran out of water. And then this rabbit would just sit there, hanging out with Mr. Mime I guess, who is also deaf. And a mime. I don't know if one mime and a rabbit are scarier than a billion lions, actually.
This is a great counterpoint, but I wonder... what about Loudred and Exploud?
Mr mime is way scarier when 100 billon lions
Wismer has a roar louder than a Jet engine when he gets upset
Couldn’t deoxys just go to space and wait for all the lions to die
Running away is not a fight.
Lions can pro create deoxys cannot.
@@julianb.f4007 are we adding females to the mix now
@@betanick14 it still counts if one pokemon is left and all the lions are dead
A billion lions would be able to stand on each others shoulders. This is the reason for how they could reach rayquasa in the ozone layer. God, you smooth brain this is simple shit.
Many of the Legendary Pokemon would solo the entire 1B Lions army
It doesn't matter how many Lions there are, they are all still in Earth, and some Legendaries can completely fuck up the entire planet on their own, killing all lions in the process
Mewtwo, Kyogre, Groudon, Rayquaza, Dialga, Palkia, Giratina, Arceus, Regigiga, Zekrom, Reshiram, Kyurem, Genesect, Yveltal, Solgaleo, Lunala, Necrozma, Eternatus, Zacian and Zamacenta can all solo the billion lions
Yveltal could literally just fly around with Oblivion Wing, killing anyone and then kamikazee itself when it gets bored
Zekrom and Reshiram could burn the entire planet, killing all the lions at once
Kyurem could freeze the entire planet, killing all lions at once
Mewtwo could storm the entire planet like it did in the movie
Kyogre can flood the entire planet, killing all lions at once
And on top of that, Eternatus can cause all the other Pokemon Dynamax, making them all reach the 100' height and turning each of their attacks into tactical nukes
PS: and yes, I know the video is being ironic. But there are people that truly believe the lions could even stand a chance
None
@@jordcharlery
None what?
@@jvbon646 none of the pokemons have a chance
@@jordcharlery
Then you know literally nothing about Pokemon lmao
@@jvbon646 and you know literally nothing about lions lmao
all you'll need is a single pokemon that's at least planetary level
Arceus
Is no one gunna bring up that kyogre with surf and thunder? A.O.E. anyone?
@Korero Korero If you're using video game logic then PP stalling works but most vs battles use multiple sources for the Pokemon mainly the anime and manga. Even still Arceus in HGSS created a new Dialga, Palkia, and Gatatina.
@Korero Korero lmfaoooo pp stall, i hate how this is an actual argument when PP isn't gonna be an issue
PP is just a measurement of a Pokemon's energy, given in a discrete form, everything has limits lmfao
lions are dumb af they aren't gon be pp stalling anyway ahahah
@Korero Korero ...implying that lions don't also have PP.
Fudj, the power at my house went out, but watching this video brought the electricity back. Thank you. I’m not sure how you did it but thanks
Also you made this entire video for that pun at the end didn’t you?
Pokedex entries are written by 10-year olds. Do you think that a 4th grader who just wrote down data on 800 other Pokemon carefully measured how hot Magcargo is, or just burned their hand and was like "That's 180,000 degrees, probably."
But they aren't, there are entries that mention scientists or rumors. Sure, professors tell you to fill the pokedex, but that just means finding the data on all of these Pokémon, indicating that you're a true trainer. You aren't jotting down notes.
I think their somewhat inacurate but based off various forms if media they are not written by the trainers and its much more likely made by an ai in the Pokedex that comes up with the entries
The pokedex automatically scans the pokemons data its not written by kids.
@@dsg9648 Then who does write it?
@@LordEpos the pokedex automatically records the data. More then likely it scans the pokemon and also looks into various possible sources such as credible scholars or scientist. (my hypothesis at least) any pokemon lacking info the pokedex does a diagnostic on it to give us info. Theirs a reason so many dex entries update later after time. Lapras was once going extinct in gen 1. Then gen 5 comes (a decade or so later i think) and now lapras was thriving. And it mentions how it was almost extinct
Another example being Kyurem in black and white 1 vs every other dex entry. It wasn't until black and white 2 we hear about its lore and so the dex updates after learning that info.
I like that you analysed the Earthquake to calculate how strong something would be in that instance, HOWEVER there is literally a move called Magnitude, which would be able to give you a more accurate finding - the move can vary in scale from 1-10, so you could use that to come up with a more accurate real world equivalent in this part imo
It doesn’t matter how many of them they are, they’re fighting God
one billion of them though
@@jimk4970 but what if the Pokémon rapidly reproduce mid battle?
Kelly Midgley
I'm on board with the world shaping gods killing a bunch of lions but I don't think different species of Pokemon are going to be able to reproduce
@@autisticduck3071 well... a skitty can reproduce with a wailoard
Kelly Midgley
Oh yeah I forgot breeding in Pokemon is horrifying
If the pokemon can set up a Sturdy Shedinja the battle is just over.
FEAR Aaron would also never die.
But then it does not have wonder guard...
@@NinjaMauro Sturdy makes it impossible to KO in one hit and shedinja only has 1 HP
@@TrueGinjaNinjaGamer struggle
@@vegetables3375 Not if we are doing anime logic.
"I don't give a sh*t when Kyogre flod the lands, because lions can swim" 👌
It still cracks me up.
Amazing vid and watchout for those lions.
for how long?
Watch out for those lions who can swim for years
Unbelievably incredible. Gonna miss this series.
My personal highlight from the video: “Yikes! That’s a scary number. You wanna hear a number that’s even scarier? ONE BILLION” 😂
I think depending on how the Legendaries reacted, most Pokemon would die but the billion lions would as well. But also, the planet would probably be destroyed and only a few Pokemon, mainly legendaries could live after
@@yassinegrira2339 Pokedex w r o n g and f a l s e
Legendaries or anything else is still pokemon. In game standards Arceus gets bodied by most pokemon
It takes a team of six Pokémon controlled by a ten year old to beat a legendary Pokémon. What makes you think a million lions couldn’t do so for each legendary as well? Also, there is more than one of every Pokémon in the Pokémon universe and the planet isn’t destroyed on a daily basis.
@@5eater551 You see Lets say each lion can do 1 damage now 10 000 lion gangs on a pokemon which is 10 000 damage Gg also if you want some context on how many lions pokemon needs to take out its 10 million per pokemon
@@5eater551 Were also going by game standards since Pokedex is just wrong in the actual game and The anime is based of the game
I cannot BELIEVE you have brought this debate back. Gonna watch in an hour I hope you pick the correct side !!
Might be the greatest fudjs thesis yet, keep it up!
I love how he count a real life logic when it's good for the lions and in game logic when it's bad for the lions
And he didn't take in account the photo of a lion holding a gun
I’ve been waiting for a genuine analysis of this question and I can’t be happier that you stepped up to the plate
Why does this discussion get revived every single year
arceus erases them from existence
13:09 Funny enough, Imposter Ditto resets its own PP when switching out and then transforming again, which means it can circumvent this limitation
Also some of these more outlandish feats can be accurate since we do see them happen, like Kyogre's floods and Black/White Kyreum freezing an entire city. Kyogre in particular could just kill all of the lion just by flooding the land since lions cant swim forever.
And if we're limiting the pokemon to in game mechanics, we also have to consider that lions (at least the males) are very territorial, and will kill each other for more land, as well as the fact that biting is not an accurate representation of the move Bite.
I like to believe that almost most of the Pokédex entries are some kind of folklore which was collected, this means that we can’t really judge this on the Pokédex. A better look for this debate on the side of Pokémon is to look at the anime version. For example some legendary’s could literally make lions not exist like Arceus.
Imagine being Solgaleo right now.
This post was made by Lunala gang.
Imagine being a pyroar
@@poploah4405 That's even worse lmao
you're going about the magcargo thing wrong. clearly, every character in pokemon is unimaginably durable to exist in the same room as magcargo.
I’ve come to think of the Pokédex entries as legends about the Pokémon. Cubone wearing the skull of its mother is just an old legend.
Kyogre would put the lions heads underwater like my brother did and they'd die.
You wanna talk about it?
Also by the logic of killing everyone with decibals, wouldn't they kill themselves as well 😂
Great video fudj. Watched while eating 4 packs of oreos.
that's a lot of oreos.
Is anyone here a doctor?
: This entire video in a nutshell. :
Lions : Who the hell are you?
Pyroar and Solgaleo : We're you....
Rest of the Pokemon : Damnit, we have traitors.
Ok you raised some good points, but have you considered Recycle? A move that, if paired with a Leppa Berry, allows a Pokemon to attack an infinite amount of times. Drifloon, Drifblim, and Arceus, can all likely float indefinately, I would assume. So by holding a leppa berry and spamming ranged moves like Hyper Beam or Shadow Ball, Drifblim (and Arceus I guess) can just float above the lions and slowly snipe them down. Even if they climb something, it can just float higher. Even if they climb the fucking Burj Khalifa, they can't really do much but swipe around it and jump, so if Drifblim just hovers a few feet away, it can still be immune. Also, after writing this I forgot about Levitate. The Lake Trio, Claydol, Bronzong, Chimecho, Cresselia, Solrock, and Lunatone can ALL employ this master plan. Checkmate, Fudj.
To blow a hole in your maths: Earthquake with a power of 100 puts it at about magnitude 8.5 if we compare it to the move Magnitude. The highest magnitude earthquake in real life is the 1960 Chile earthquake at 9.5, which killed 1,655 people. At 9.5, this earthquake would have about 120 power in Pokémon, but the move Magnitude goes up to 10, which has 150 power.
Earthquake at 8.5 / 100 power when compared to the 1960 Chile earthquake would mean it's able to kill about 1,480 with each use and a Magnitude 10 could kill 1,742 with each use. There are currently 58 Pokémon able to learn Earthquake by level up and at 10 PP base you're looking at 580 Earthquakes / 858,400 lions dead. Increase that to 16 PP using a PP Max on each Pokémon and you'll get 928 Earthquakes / 1,373,440.
Then there's Magnitude. 16 Pokémon can learn it and it has a base PP of 30. It only has a 5% chance to use Magnitude 10, but that averages about 1.5 per Pokémon, or about 24 uses (plus all the rest of the weaker Magnitudes that would still kill many lions each). This means that there would be 41,808 kills just from that 5% of uses, but if you increase the PP with PP Maxes you get 48 uses per Pokémon, which is 2.4 Magnitude 10s per Pokémon, 38.4 total Magnitude 10s (rounded down to 38 for easier maths), or about 66,196 kills from Magnitude 10s alone.
So with only two move slots and less than 10% of the Pokémon we've got over 10% of the lions dead, and these numbers only go up even higher if we allow for TMs to be used to teach even more Pokémon the moves. Even if you half all my final kill counts as you did in your video, these moves together take out a significant chunk of the lions and the Pokémon still have loads of choices left. This is ignoring the Flying types that can stay out of reach of the lions and attack from the air, the water types that can cause floods with Surf, and the Fighting types that we can assume have type advantage against lions.
Many Pokémon also learn moves like Protect to prevent attacks, or Dig and Fly that can protect them for the moment before they attack. There are also plenty of moves that can burn, paralyse, and put the lions to sleep, nullifying many of them. Not to mention powerful defensive walls like Shuckle, Aggron, and Steelix who could easily resist Swipes, Slashes, Bites, and Crunches from the lions, taking many attacks to go down as they attacked. On top of this there's Roar of Time, Hyper Beam, Giga Impact, and other 150 power moves that can be used by many Pokémon.
Then there's also Spikes, Toxic Spikes, and Stealth Rock which would cause the lions problems as they advanced. There are also Pokémon with access to moves like Absorb, Giga Drain, Leech Seed, and Leech Life which could keep themselves alive while fighting back the lions.
All this to say: I disagree.
Thats not how decibels work, a sound doesnt get twice as loud just because 2 exact same sounds play at the same time. Commonly, decibels go up by 3 if the same sound is played at the same time.
It's a joke, he even joked about not using the logarithmic scale
I’m just imagining the Pokémon dying like pandas and then when there are like 14 Pokémon left a fucking llama appears in the sky and kills everything
This comment section is amazing. There's one point in the debate no one seems to talk about, though. Is this a fight to the death? Because lions die all the time. Circle of life, yo. Pokemon? When they run out of HP, they simply faint. When little Pichu gets hit by superpowered laser beams, deadly suicidal explosions, horrific supernatural ghost attacks, natural disaster type things like tsunamis and earthquakes or even the judgement of the almighty Arceus himself.... The worst that happens is he faints. I don't think a lion could kill even Hopip with scratches and bites. Pokemon CAN die but the specifics of it are never stated in the games and it doesn't seem to have anything to do with battle. I guess lions could eat the small ones whole, but that doesn't take care of Wailord. That's just if fainting doesn't count as an automatic loss for the Pokemon, though.
And while I'm here, dicking around with my free-time writing this nonsense - I have a counter-argument for the PP thing. In the games, there are Miltank on the overworld that can heal your party. All their PP and health restored like new. Not cryptic Pokedex lies but an actual proven ability Miltank has and uses in the games. So as long as the other godly, terraforming monoliths of Pokemon can keep the lions away from the Miltank, they could eventually chip away at that billion without a single one of them dying. Even without Miltank, the mystery dungeon games show that pokemon can bring and use their own items, like seeds/berries to heal each other too. When a lion dies, it's gone for good. Nothing in modern science has been seen that can bring one back (RIP Mufasa, he was too good for this world).
AAAAAND some Pokemon are poisonous to the touch, so the moment a lion comes in contact with one, it's slowly dying from venom without the Pokemon even using one of it's PP.
I'm not saying it's an obvious easy win for the Pokemon. All I'm saying is, these are some things no one considers. Also, quality over quantity, baby. I'm excited to see the equally dumb responses I get about this stuff, lol.
So Kyoto floods everything and you say “oh lions can swim” NOT FOREVER THEY WOUKD EVENTUALLY LOSE ENERGY AND DROWN
And then even magikarp could claim a victim
he he Kyoto
This is the most amazing thing I've ever watched. I sincerely hope this is the video that makes your channel blow up. Love you Fudj
Absolutely brilliant. Love this video.
I have no idea of how this got onto feed, but I am not disappointed.
Haven’t watched the video yet. The answer should be that the lions win because the Pokémon struggle to death because they don’t have a billion pp
Let’s goooo fudj got it right
Even without the pp limit I don't think they would win.
They can create literal earthquakes and hurricanes. Plus everything dies when yveltal dies so at the most it would be a draw. Plus a pokemon could use perish song killing everything except for pokemon with abilities like soundproof.
Bruh, just use the Peteya Berry+Recycle. Easily solves the PP problem.
@@dozokhu7392 do wild Pokemon even do that? Do they just go hunting for berries the second day run out of pp?
There is literally no way the Lions could win, 5 reasons.
Ghosts.
Magcargo.
Can cause natural disasters.
Literal gods, you CAN'T TELL ME THE LIONS CAN BEAT TIME, SPACE AND MATTER ITSELF.
Hoopa goes wrrrrr.
pokemon can't kill they only make things faint 😋
@@klyzer5725 The Manga says otherwise and some of sources.
4:37 i died. love your sense of humour so much
that was some fucking impressive david attenborough impersonation
I think I remember seeing something similar in a Gnoggin video years ago. Also, lions can't fly so Mega Rayquaza wins.
Makes sense
Rayquaza can't win without landing tho
@@yiangaruga4928 Hyper Beam, Dragon Pulse, Draco Meteor etc.
@@yiangaruga4928 exist long landing attacks
Also cant kyogre fly like in the hoopa movie?
Anyone with a minimal knowledge about Pokémon knows that lions don't stand a chance, even if the number of lions was a quintillion.
2 words: lion ladder
@@frick6480
A stack of paper is a stack of paper.
@@BK-vi3od lions are heavier than paper so...
@@frick6480
So would they just collapse in on each other?
@@BK-vi3od no because using lion intuition, they balance on one-another. also, lions are real but pokemon aren't so...
What happenes if YVeltal dies? Doesnt it kill every living being, then revive?
2 cool theories why Macargo hasn't alt+f4 the world
1: It's the internal heat of Macargo, and he can control it, so the temperature doesn't leave his body
2: Humans and Pokémon are just built different out there, in an episode of I think Pokémon Generations Bruno could very nicely tank being smashed against the wall with a Machamp, a Pokémon that can move mountains with 1 of his 4 hands
Meanwhile Giratina goes to another dimension and camps the lions until they all die
Thats conceding by default
@@jclorcan08 No
Also lion ladders aren't even an argument so camping the lions is ez
Fudj this was an absolute pleasure, yet also a disappointment. You dance around a much more meaningful discussion yet never embrace it.
At the heart of the question "Who would win in a fight, one of everyone Pokemon, or a Billion lions?" is something greater than hp, and db, and pp. It's about humanity's relationship with the stories we tell ourselves.
The video games and the anime-- neither are definitive because neither are real. They are both interpretations of a fictional world we created. So how powerful are the beings in this fictional world?
How powerful are our imaginations?
You reach for the real, the tangible, the quantifiable, and say surely the lions would win.
But what you fail to do, is realize that some pokemon are capable of strategy. Of self- sacrifice.
You fail to realize that Mewtwo would take leadership of the pokemon, and united they would form a defensive perimeter around Kakuna and Metapod. At that point they would only need to buy them enough turns until they're both hardened well past the point of diamonds, and completely invulnerable to all attacks from the lions.
Eventually the lions grow tired, bored, hungry. As lions do, they'll just fucking kill each other until a limited number of males control their own territories and prides, forgetting all about the pokemon because they lack critical thinking or strategy, and the two remaining pokemon stay hard until the heat death of the universe, long before which all lions have gone extinct.
you really wrote an entire essay huh
@@timidcrayonbox i mean the word count would certainly be enough for like a high school essay, idk about university
Daniel Fiala "stay hard"
I think its safe to say that the pokemon would actually win, since a move like surf hits multiple targets, so if one of the many many water types uses surf, all one billion lions would probably drown.
@@lued123 surf hits all 5 pokemon in horde battles so one billion at once is theoretically possible
Really funny video, especially the David Attenborough bit, does anyone know by chance what the outro song is?
1 time I looked at Shedinja's back hole and straight up died
or a Mimikyu without Disguise
i still think that in an actual fight, the pokemon win. but. the argument "do you know how many a billion is?" is such a funny rebuttal that i gotta side with the lions
spread moves. They hit multiple targets. When Kyogre uses Surf, he doesn't give a shit, how many Lions there are.
Your videos are absolutely hilarious
I used to be on the Pokemon side, but this video has convinced me. I'm on team lions now
Well this video is bs, they can’t hit the damn ghosts and you can’t lion ladder to fucking space, have you ever tried to bite a ghost and it working, or only being able to bite a sertian amount of times, it’s real life and lions aren’t Pokémon
@@guardianofyeast3102 Nah fam Lions would clap pokemon. Am being real here.
Anime based of game, Pokedex is wrong. So lions could easily pp stall arceus and win because every legendary is just a normal pokemon. I mean i saw a magikarp sweep an arceus also lions could pp stall ghost enough to make it struggle to death
Also if you say Pp isnt real in real life, yes so you also mean lions would win because pokemon arent real
2:50 Kinda glad you called these people out.
Ehh. Most of them are fine. Alpharad just did that once or twice, SmallAnt does incredibly unique ones and it’s not his only content, and Jrose11 kind of dominates over a single niche. Not sure about the others but those people do have great content.
Mah Dry Bread gets a pass imo cuz he’s genuinely quite funny and its at least his main thing. Plus his challenges tend to be legitimately challenging, like beating Firered with one Onix.
Love these
Music : **GREAT CANYON PMD INSTENSIFY**
I wanna see an evolution of Magcargo where he turns to Plasma because he got so hot.
Plascargo
He can be Electric Fire
so... this whole video was just an excuse for that last line?
Part of the plot of usum has ultra necrozma being contained in something that won't let him take over the multiverse
The best Fudj's Thesis yet
This video is just straight up facts, I physically and mentally cannot argue with the sheer amount of absolute based logic being spat in our ears watching this video. You are truly the debate guru Fudj
Well then you would be an idiot by listening to this idiot, sure a billion lions is a lot of lions, but you’re condemning the fact of what you can do with every Pokémon, grab kyogre get all the Pokémon and use helping hand on it, and use origin pulse, boom done
@@guardianofyeast3102 i don't know if this is bait or if you're dead serious.
But come on, it's a billion lions.
There's only like less than 900 pokemon, so obviously, through sheer numbers, the lions win no contest.
@@yuh7968 lmao even if they are one Billion doesn't matter when he comes things like Groudon and Kyogre that can destroy the whole planet if they want even without primal form
@@notauri1693 nah man, Kroger and Groupon can't do shit to 1 billion lions. That's like 1/7 of the human population
@@yuh7968 The same Kyogre and Groudon that almost destroy all of the world? Lmao is crazy see how people think that the lion would win only for big number when in reality they would be dead even if you use 1 or 2 pokemon if you use the actual ability and power of the pokemons for real.
I really just want to know how your creative process works. I know a lot of people have thought of this too, myself included. But to actually go and do the research and publish a video about it? You're a bigger animal than I am, Mr. Fudj.
What a pokemon like Lanturn who can just hide underwater and shock all the lions before they can get anywhere near it. Most aquatic pokemon could use this tactic to either force a draw or win.
I mean pp stalling. The lions try to go there sure and eventually lanturn would run out of moves and also pokemon in the wild are just uh...
Imagine a Pokemon Musou game where the main enemies are lions
Wolfe Glick, enough said
Godzilla sized creatures make small creatures go *Crunch* if stepped on.
I mean literally kyogre would fuck every lion by itself
Hoopa could use its rings to just teleport a fuck ton of lions to the bottom of the ocean, space, or just a couple miles into the air
What lore are we using. I, personally, use the pokédex entries and only the pokédex entries. I won't talk about that famous pokémon so much, so don't worry.
Let's talk about another pokémon. Alakazam. Alakazam has a IQ of 5e3/5000. When it closes its eyes, it heighens all its other senses. Not enough? Rayquaza has Draco Meteor. Meteor. Meteors explode if thrown at something that can't be considered untouchable, because the strengh of a meteor when thrown at something like the earth makes it explode. And, no, not everyone dies with Draco Meteor. Arceus, Primal Kyogre, Mewtwo, Mew, Dialga, Palkia, Celebi. Good examples of OP pokémon who can literally fullass not die to a meteor at full strengh.
Primal Kyogre manipulates and generates water, so it could just protect itself with water.
Mewtwo, they have extreme battle abilities. They could yes survive a meteor. One contradiction here is that it only thinks of defeating its foes (Gen 2, Pokémon Gold entry in pokédex).
P.S. : I did not include Mewtwo X and Y.
Mew flies/floats. It can also learn ANY move.
Arceus is a literal god. Also, Arceus was the one who shaped the world, before the universe even existed. It has acknowledge about the world, and can have 1000 arms.
Some other pokémon who are not even legendary/no one talks about them :
Gardevoir/Sirnight can read the future and create a small black hole, despite having the ability do distort dimensions. Its power PEAKS when protecting its trainer, not shows itself. Gardevoir/Sirnight does not need a trainer.
Shaymin, in the anime, is often seen in the space where there are also Arceus, Dialga, Palkia and Giratina. Shaymin is the only one who was often able to defeat Giratina, or almost that.
Darkrai makes things sleep and have nightmares. It's not harmful, but can be used as a powerful weapon. I could include other pokémon here, like Yveltal and Zygarde, but I don't think i need to include them to PROVE I think pokémon win.
ua-cam.com/video/5XdOSMo6Svc/v-deo.html for some more info i didn't include
EVEN MORE PROOF THAT POKÉMON WIN
Ditto transforms into whatever shit and wins lions
Giratina can go to distortion world ( bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Distortion_World#Geography ) and just win
Pokémon that have Earthquake just use it at the same time as we are talking about all the pokémon and Oranguru or something has a move that just makes other pokémon do whatever move he wants and Alakazam and Latios/Latias can use telepathy to contact Oranguru to say he's supposed to do that
And THIS is interesting.
Alakazam - Latios/Latias - Oranguru. This can be used many times.
Let's call this, the Inducement Cycle.
P.S. 2 : Sorry for including Zygarde in the text, it does not have a pokédex entry in the games
Yveltal's pokédex entries in X and Omega Ruby:
When this legendary Pokémon's wings and tail feathers spread wide and glow red, it absorbs the life force of living creatures.
Not even needs to die I guess.
Xerneas can share life, and I guess that counts as revive pokémon. Xerneas can also transform in a tree.
P.S. 3 : Some facts i found :
Yveltal can petrify things in the anime, and Xerneas can turn it back to normal.
Noivern can turn a boulder into pebbles with its sound waves, and nothing can beat it at night.
If these lions are from cold places, Squirtle beats a bunch. Lions from cold places do not like water.
What are they going to do to a Abra with a pokémon who floats? Inducement Cycle happens.
Hypno will hypnotise lions who lock their eyes with him. He will, then, use a mix of psychic moves. Inducement Cycle will happen again and some pokémon who can protect him with an move will do it.
Hyper Beam and Hyper Beam V.S. 1 lion. See?
Eternatus Eternamax is Eternatus in a state of power OVERLOAD.
Crowned Shield Zamazenta deflects any attack.
Nice
A billion lions is a lot tho
Pokemon fans explaining why pokemon would win: *Insert lengthy essay detailing power metrics, feats, lore, and physiology pertaining to certain key pokemon who could (reasonably) hold out longer than most.
People on why lions win: "One billion big cat"
Lions: *roars*
Pokemon: Soundproof moment
I must take this entire video as a meta meme because of all the math mistakes in it.
And if in the pokemon universe the medium temperature of things was 13k?
In the future, maybe using magnitude would be a better comparison than earthquake.
I was just thinking about this yesterday when i was outside
1 Billion Lions vs 800+ Pokemon is barely a competition
Wait what? They're coming to our world but playing by their worlds rules? If pokemon come to this world they're playing by monster hunter rules, no turn taking, no pp, just thrashing. If we're gonna be realistic about it what is any lion gonna do to a steelix or an onyx, smash their piddly little fangs and claws on their carapace assuming they don't get crushed before getting into range? Also if we're actually gonna use pokemon logic, can't they also like level up and evolve and shit? And breed? All they gotta do is take a few steps and they hatch right up.
Let’s just test it.
That's still not how heat works
9:22 when he asked to call him dav. An add pop up with a gunshot xD
Now consider this. What if magcargos and by extension other fire types can control their fire. Thats how that girl can hug magcargo and Ash could ride that Rapidash raw back.
I genuinely didnt notice the first time when Fudj took over for attenborough
Rayquaza can literally fly into space wait until the lions starve and therefore win
Lion ladder
We've literally seen both Raquaza and Deoxys survive in space in the games. The lions are not reaching space, not to mention the metric boatload of flying pokemon the lions wouldn't be able to do anything about. Sure they'll get tired eventually but by then the other mons will have had more than enough time to unleash a multitude of insane spread moves on the lions. Speaking of spread moves, basing the number of lions killed by earthquake based on human death tolls is ludicrous. Humans have vehicles, advanced medicine, exact knowledge of exactly how earthquakes work etc. Lions have none of that, so depending on the base attack of the pokemon, I would say one earthquake is killing at least one or two thousand lions if they're close together. An earthquake from a pokemon like Groudoun is bopping at least a few hundred thousand. Multiply that by 10 or 16, that's a few million lions, much more than the 1.1 million per pokemon you laid out which would make up for pokemon like feebas. Same goes for surf, since it's pretty much a full-on tsunami in the hands of certain pokemon like Kyogre. Lions are getting bopped, even ignoring the pokedex completely.