Man, I wish I could simply compile all the battle scenes in one single clip. It would take around 11 mins. But I cant. :C Edit: Part 3 was blocked, sooo.. Yeah
That’s usually their tactics. In one of Tolkien’s books (maybe the Silmarillion) it is stated that the yrch need at least a 5-6 times bigger army to win.
And it's only ever for the orcs, too. I swear they could've charged into battle in the best armor on the planet and they'd still die just as quickly as they did here.
1:44 Dwarven War horn: Durin's horn +100 on all stats, +50 on stamina and health regen enemies -100 on all stats, dazed and -100 atk/defence 1:53 Bell of Erabor +100 on all stats, +100 charge bonus +100 anti arrow and range +100 luck +100 defense Debuff all enemies by -100 on stats on the field and bring them in a confused state 2:14 War cry (To the king) +100 charge bonus, +100 attack +100 defense +100 spear +100 sword damage
It is modeled after a children's book more or less, you know. Kind of a meme the whole time with the dwarfs so I'm not surprised that its less realistic
@Max Payne to be fair these are rohirrim horses, which are much stronger than the horses "nowadays". plus they had a wizard at helm's deep and the orcs at Minas Tirith were scared shitless.
Thorin greeting his cousin during the battle like they just met for dinner just emphasises how completely devoid of any tension these action scenes are.
No one else going to mention how painfully sad it is that sauron is so cruel that he litterly has trolls with mace hands with chains inside their eyes to be controlled like puppets? like just imagine how painful that must be to be controlled by someone pulling you by your eye sockets you would lash out
…or maybe Now, hear me out. What if?…. Trolls really just LOVE. to fight. Like that’s all they ever dream of doing when they’re NOT fighting. They’re like Huskies. Mfers go APESHIT when human besty tells them they bout to get they zoomies on. The clubhands? That’s just their body mod. THEY did THAT to themselves. Some people get their nipples pierced; trolls get their hands clubbed. You can get that procedure done in any of their malls. The eye chains are really just a kink. It has no business being there. Unprofessional, i say. But hey, it’s 2022. I’m not gonna kinkshame. And so shouldn’t you. Oh and plot twist: the trolls control the orcs. 😮🤯 i know. Shocker right? Had you in the first half. This is why we need more Orc/Troll representation in film. 😩 litterly No one ever cares about THEIR side of the story.
@@skadooshe5709 Nah man I don’t even think that’s the case for stumpy (yes that’s actually the troll’s name) he isn’t roaring in fury, he isn’t angry looking- he more looks like he’s in pain. And like- I can feel that happening, he’s in constant pain with his fucking weapons and the reigns attached to his eye lids. I think he’s begging for death at this point and we don’t even know it because he can’t speak any language. And in Lord of the Rings as a whole? The trolls are more used as slaves really! He mean they’re chained up, forced manual hard labor, and they’re too stupid to realize that they could take freedom any day but they just don’t understand the concept of it. The trolls that go to war? They’re smarter than the average troll sure! And they seem to have a lot of free will. But in the case for stumpy? And the other trolls who don’t get to choose? Well- it’s just a fucking sad existence.
I don't think there are many scenes more anti climatic than this one in any movie. The horn bellows, a giant bell cracks a hole in the mountain and where one is expecting a thousand troops or more to join the battle and turn the tide, out comes Sneezy, Sleepy, Doc, Happy, Grumpy, Dopey and Bashful to save the day.
@@domca4617 Late, but he basically said it would've been more badass if a large troop of dwarves came out, instead of just Thorin and his friends running out goofily.
The reaction of the Trolls to a handful of Dwarfs charging from inside the mountain is the epitome of silliness in this movie. Plus the fact that Azog halted the army to get the Trolls into position just to drop like flies as soon as the battle started.
Well, they get their commands through horn-signals. Don't forget that trolls are pretty stupid, when they hear another horn-signal which sounds similar, they are stunned and don't know what to do with that. But ye, them falling instantly each from one spear just like that was pretty lame.
@@XXLShortyXXL I don't find it so shocking and pretty representative, the fact that a dwarf can pierce the heart of a troll with a well-placed throw, surely made by some Longbeards do seem possible to me, throughout the Battle, on several occasions there are dwarves who throw their spears before joining the close combat with a 2-handed weapon or a sword. The only problem is from 6 trolls to only 2 alive, that a bit much, 2 or 3 killed/Wounded would have been more realistic though. + i like to think of it like the LotR Games for PS2 where you were able to kill trolls with a Spear throw !
@@Lukart44 these are the same dwarves that took a castle after the death of a dragon. I'm not sure if the orcs knew that Bard killed the dragon. But imagine the ones who you thought killed the dragon charge at you and give the others strength and motivation.
Trolls are stupid and not immortal, they can be killed with a spear. You just rooted for the orcs, although they lost not only in the movie, but also in the book
@@reek4062 Personally I don’t care about either being contradictory to the books, the films and the books are separate entities made by different people so it would only make sense that they’re not identical. But how is Helm’s Deep stupid nonsense? To me it’s one of the greatest battles in all of film history. There are issues with it of course (mostly the battle being won by Gandalf and the Rohirrim, not anyone actually already in the battle, feels like a cop out to me. “And then thousands of horsemen who we’ve barely seen before turned up and saved the day” feels cheap) but there’s so much good in it that I can easily overlook these flaws I’ve thought of. The Five Armies doesn’t have the good, and has about a thousand times more bad.
This vid (and part 1) are the "action only" clips, so it skips a bunch of mid-battle stuff that happened like the elves just sort of fucking off to go defend the town
Just re-watched the movie, this vid actually cut out shit tons, not just talking but also epic battle scenes or overall important entertainment scenes. Bad cut I guess and my bad
It would be so awkward when Thorin and his men realized they are the only one charging towards the orcs while his cousin and the rest of the dwarves went inside Erebor to barricade themselves.
CJ YR I wonder where the did the rest of the dwarf army came from when Thorin charged to the Azog.I know Ironfoot left some of this troops back (you can see the rest of them moving in around 0:55) and the new ones came with flags...
This just goes to show that CGI can't beat practical effects. Watch this and then compare it to the Fellowship fighting the Uruk-hai just before they all split up. Night and Day
2:10 that is what why Alexander the Great conquered so much and never lost a battle. The morale boost to his soldiers of seeing their king fight alongside them is unfathomable.
@@momoproblems0 Must be some sort of Indian cow-lover looking back at when "India was strlong nation." Yet, a simple Google search will show that Alexander died in Babylon (present-day Iraq) and did not even attempt to go into India due to morale and leadership issues. He is just ignorant.
Because back then they use real people not CGI. Nowadays it took times to assemble lots of people and tons of peripheral. Not only times, money as well.
@@TetsuoNL true but the main cast and some fight aren't fully CGI which makes it not unreal. That's why people called things like Avengers/Hobbit/Ready player one a CGI galore because the fight itself is fully done in CGI.
Yeah I hate how the movie kinda forgot the battle in the valley. The movie just stopped following the battle there and we never really know what happened to the elven army too.
Well you know how it is, it's been scientifically proven to be impossible to be consistant when filming a movie. Also the CGI budget was bleeding buckets so....
I have always found the bit at 0:45 the funniest thing when he starts gently nudging his un-armoured head against Orks wearing steel plate helmets and it somehow kills them.
Azog with thousands of Orcs, dozens of trolls and a bunch of were worms: You can't defeat me. Dain with only a few hundred Dwarves left: I know, but he can! *13 more Dwarves!*
“To The King, To The King” gets me every time 🔥💯 ima need to get this extended version of the hobbit trilogy 💯 so much better then the theatrical version
I love how there was just a big ass battle between the dwarves and elves but there are no bodies from that and meanwhile, the elf army just disappears. I guess that's what happens when your "strategy" is to jump over a shield wall to engage larger, stronger, heavier opponents that also happen to be heavily armored and much much more numerous
Peter Jackson didn't have the same funds, control, NOR the same time, to devote to "The Hobbit" as he had been given for "Lord of the Rings". Also, he has a great love of CGI. His use of such in Fellowship and Two Towers was limited, due to it being a relatively new technique, and the films are all the better for their sparing use. He used more in Return (obviously needed with the Ghost Army, etc) but you can tell that, of the three, that last film has aged less well than the first two. Practical effects are ALWAYS better, with limited CGI to just add some "flair". But if he HAD been given the same time, control, and funds to make The Hobbit, even with more use of CGI, I'd bet it would have been a better trilogy. It's a fun watch as it is, but a poor adaptation of the book; which is the biggest shame as LotRs is THE best adaptation of ANY book I've ever had the privilege to watch.
This shit makes me emotional my dad introduced me to hobbit and lord of the rings when i was young he died 3 years ago so it brings back good memories watching these clips remember that we always used to watch this
The setup with that gigantic golden bell, the obivious copy of Gimli in Helm's Deep with Bombur, the fact that an army of dwarves in heavy plate armor seems to be desparate for the help of another dozen or so dwarves with vastly inferioir equipment, the surprised look on Azogs face, all while he is standing on a hill far away, so he probably can't see a damn thing - all this creates a very unique moment. Infact it is such a unique moment, that it would cause even the mighty Smaug himself to cringe so hard, he'd have goosebumps all over those powerful dragon scales.
To be fair to Azog. He IS far away, which means he was watching his troops win the battle through superior numbers and his tactical and strategic moves using the horns. Now he is watching his troops get walked through like shallow water. He is confused AF.
Wake the fuck samurai, we have a city to burn I didn’t see the horn part. But you are right he is supposed to use “their” for the horn and “there” for the place they are coming out of
Why does everything in The Hobbit look like a floaty cartoon? After the masterpiece of The Lord of the Rings, how did they simply forget about all the things that made it look so good!?
@@habibcicero3833 Production problems. They were rushed hard by the top execs to just get it done, they had to sacrifice a lot of heart and quality to just spew out a product that would make a lot of quick money. And it did. Most people don't give a flying fuck about quality, just look at the success story that is the Fast and Furious franchise.
And it was originally 2 films but then studio mandate turned it into 3 films for another trilogy. The LOTR books got a movie each, but the Hobbit was one book split into 3 films.
I was thinking about that watching it but then realized that cutting the legs off and replacing them with those metal things makes the troll harder to take them for infantry units since there are no anckles to cut
Watching all the Hobbit movies made me appreciate how badass the dwarves are but it also led me to think about what their "abilities" are compared to the Elves. First, it seems like they're exceptionally durable. The way Dain Ironfoot repeatedly headbutts Orcs who are wearing armor makes me think the Dwarves have especially thick bones, much more than the Elves, Men, or Orcs. Of course, there are many other examples of their extraordinary endurance. Second, they have profoundly fast reflexes. While certainly not on the level of Elves, it's enough to give them a deadly prowess in battle against any enemy. Thirdly, they appear to be phenomenal engineers and are capable of building advanced tools of warfare that the other races don't have the skill/materials to build. I've never read the books so I don't know if any of that is true to canon. Also, they have war-goats, so that's pretty cool too.
that low-key badassery is only for these pathetic movies which look like a trailer for a second-rate vidya game. the only thing that holds true is their durability. they were intentionally made so kewl bc the studio demanded to "entertain audiences" first and foremost.
This is all plausible though. They evolved to live underground in much tougher physical conditioned and lead lives that get their hands much more dirty. (Figuratively speaking ofc, not necessarily literally getting their hands dirty.
Its doesn't have to be a plot armor, many kings like Alexander The Great, Jan III Sobieski foughts in front ranks in any battle and almost never get hurt
@@flakes1972 Well in WW2 in battle of Vizna Polish army had 700 soldiers and fought against German army with 40k soldiers, even with tanks, planes, heavy altillery. Poland losed, but they fought for 3 DAYS, and Germany lost much more soldiers. For me this battle was much more impresive than battle in Hobbit yet still it was real life
3:26 there is a troll who is amputee of both legs, both hands, has his eyes gauged and replaced with chain. Orcs are good at making prosthetic. But I kind feel sorry for this doomed creature.
Man, if only peter Jackson had time to develop and put his touches in the hobbit properly without WB Studios forcing him to rush production. These battle scenes would've been epic like LOTR and wouldn't have gotten a choppy story line.
Well, it's not change the battle's tide. Majority of dwarfs were still overwhelmed. the arrival of eagles are the one that change the tide of the battle
power of bad writing, even in the books when Thorin and co. appear the battle still is slowly becoming a defeat for the dwarves,elves and humans until the Eagles and Beorn break havoc and kill the orcs leader Bolg
Before Thorins arrival: Oh bois, those trolls are pretty hard to kill. After Thorins arrival: Oh wait, we got some damn spears, why don't we throw 'em at those trolls?
I’m sure the dwarves were, but they were throwing their spears into the crowds of orcs where the dwarves lines were either gonna collapse or have broken through
2:10 Random ally: "HERES OUR REINFORCEMENTS!" Second guy: "But they are only... 10 people..." Another guy: "Screw it! 10 more guys is better than nothing. CHARGE!"
To all my brothers who just enjoy the movie for what it is (just a fantasy movie) and don’t pick it apart like you’re some renowned movie critic, I wish you a very pleasant evening.
I know its been a year since you posted this comment but i cannot believe that i actually found someone who actually likes the movie and doesn't criticize every little fucking detail. Much love man!!
@@WitcherGerd lol imagine having the best archers back and firing from the walls... and leaving the "brutes" up front to BRUTILIZE the enemy... u dont put all ur eggs in one basket if u dont have too.. lol
1:15 If you take your time to count the amount of troops here, you'll see that the dwarves are around ~250 and the ONE formation of orcs is 240, while the one in the front is around 550. That means ~250 dwarves defeated roughly 2700 heavily armored orcs (that stood in formation btw) + a few trolls (that literally crushes several dwarves by themselves just a few seconds earlier) HOWEVER if you look at 2:40, the dwarves somehow got into formation AND duplicated themselves enough to turn into 800 dwarves rather than just 250. While the orcs lost all formation, even the ones in the back for whatever reason. I mean, is it really that hard for a big studio to stay consistent? Such a pathetic movie.
You're right, but the movie was literally in developer hell. If you watch the behind the scenes features you can see Jackson laying on set, semi-awake, pondering how to save the film.
For me there is nothing more emotional than watching a wavering army realise their doom but then their worries dissipate as they accept their end and in that final moment they rally and fight harder than they've ever fought in their entire lives with a unified emotion, passion, strength and unity.
In the book it is explained to us that the coordination of Thorin first and the audacity of Dáin second transmitted confidence and courage to the others, as Gimli says, the dwarves are too good at short notice.
Know that no, you are not the only one my friend, And for a very long time I also asked myself this question and even would have wanted to be there myself to see it with my own eyes, but it must be admitted that on the condition of being highly skilled in the art of Combat in a real melee, Life expectancy should not be very long there...
nah fr I'm so dumb for stuff wtih a lot of people, specially if they all look the same to me, I wouldn't be able to know who's my team and who isn't, I couldn't even play soccer at my school because of that lol
@@Lena-ff5hrthat was a big problem in history as well, another reason why they used actual battle lines, battles only very rarely devolved into this kind of melee, most likely you'd be standing shoulder to shoulder with your mates with a spear and a shield, or a halberd or bill if we're talking about roughly 14th-15th century European levels of armour
In my opinion, in the film I think there should have been more scenes between the dwarf army and the battle. In the extended part there are carts, and the sheep then disappear. I think it deserves an explanation. In my opinion, the dwarf army is awesome.
Sadly no, in The Lord of the Rings, Dain had to defend Erebor from a host of Easterlings, (off camera, just what Tolkien has told us) and eventually died. Erebor was almost overrun, as was dale, but eventually the mountain’s defense destroyed the Easterling horde
I have always loved the Dwarfs since the Lord of the Rings came out and i love how much they focused on them in the newer movies. They are some of the best characters throughout this all.
I love how when it’s focused on Thorin, Kili, and Fili fighting it’s all serious but when focused on any other dwarf int he company there’s a humorous feel to it
I really wish Del Toro had a chance to finish these movies. Seeing a troll with its hands and feet replaced with weapons and it’s being steered by chains hooked up to its eyes is something else
@@deusextalkina7722 preproduction is still a part of the filmmaking process lol. And a part the director is in charge of, so yes, using “finish” in this context is perfectly acceptable lol
1:08 so you're telling me this dwarf has to stab the orc several times with a spear to kill him, but dain can casually headbutt an orc wearing a steel helmet and kill him?
2:39 I imagine that Jackson thought this shot of the dwarves wading forward, splitting the orc lines like a tide would look incredibly cool. But to me it looks unfeasible. We've just had a prolonged battle where we've seen the armies of King Dain and the Gundabad Orcs being somewhat evenly matched, with the orcs winning through weight of numbers. The dwarves were clearly depicted looking exhausted and wounded as they retreated to the gates of Erebor, and then suddenly they're washing aside what is clearly shown to us to be a VAST army of foes that has already been demonstrated to be competent in their strength and brutality. And suddenly they're being washed away, like they're not even there, by this supposedly exhausted and numerically inferior force of dwarves that they were defeating soundly five minutes ago? It's kinda daft.
Tbf, I don't even think Peter Jackson was proud of this movie. Heard he was brought in very late into the thing, and he had been writing scripts like a day before shooting or something. I may be wrong.
But wereworms, giant trolls with prosthetic maces, Dwarves, Woodland Elves, giant trained bats, a grey Wizard, Hobbits, an enormous solid gold bell the size of a 4 story building and a hoarde of gold larger than all the gold in existence... All seems legit though.. "Fantasy" as in "fantastic story".
@@dj11o9er You are. I mean.....what? This movie took 4 years to make. And "shooting"?........ What? %75 was "captured" digitally using blue screen and actors wearing onesies with contact visual points. Took more than 4 years to make this entire movie. The entire crew and actors were all flown all around the world to "shoot" real footage. Were you just being sarcastic? Taking the piss?
anyone notice how the elves just disappear by the end of this? I saw the leader and then the skirt/ kilt of a standing elf warrior when they were focusing on the Dwarf leader, but then when they regroup in this part there's literally no sign of them and don't even get me started on how both the dwarven[especially them] and elf army shrinks to about a fraction of what was portrayed in the beginning as soon as the orcs show up just to emphasize how outnumbered they are.... and yea, I know it's a move, but let's be a little consistent here., update, I'm also apparently stupid for not realizing that this was an edited and that the elves actually went off somewhere to provide support
Thorin an hour before this scene: let me just put this very strong shiny armor so that the orcs have an idea who they are dealing with Also Thorin minutes before this scene: let me lose this shit Imma fight these bastards without armor
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Man, I wish I could simply compile all the battle scenes in one single clip. It would take around 11 mins. But I cant. :C
Edit: Part 3 was blocked, sooo.. Yeah
thank you though my dude
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Kimer Lorens فيلم روعة
Kimer Lorens js8s
"Can we win?"
"Yes" A voice from the heaven, "All orc's HP has been set to 1"
Bantha fodders haha buggers
Dammmm you now i cant unsee it
Thank you Eru
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I love how the Orc’s main weapon is their never ending supply of Orcs
dunno who's quote it is but "quantity has a quality unto its own"
@@genericuser984 Joseph Stalin
Russian technic of ww2
@@thycrimsonfckr And in Ukraine too...some things don't change....
That’s usually their tactics. In one of Tolkien’s books (maybe the Silmarillion) it is stated that the yrch need at least a 5-6 times bigger army to win.
I "love" how armor does absolutely nothing in this movie
it does, prevents the blood coming out, making the movie PEGI 12
He has an "Ignore armor" to his "Headbutt"
Just like stormtroopers
And it's only ever for the orcs, too. I swear they could've charged into battle in the best armor on the planet and they'd still die just as quickly as they did here.
Its just like t34s
1:44 Dwarven War horn: Durin's horn +100 on all stats, +50 on stamina and health regen enemies -100 on all stats, dazed and -100 atk/defence
1:53 Bell of Erabor +100 on all stats, +100 charge bonus +100 anti arrow and range +100 luck +100 defense Debuff all enemies by -100 on stats on the field and bring them in a confused state
2:14 War cry (To the king) +100 charge bonus, +100 attack +100 defense +100 spear +100 sword damage
now thats a buff
@@kentdwendellvidal4256 :) each time you see an epic movie and a leader is charging in you would remember this buff :D
The One Ring: -100 to visibility , another abilities unknown at the time
For the line of durin!
TO THE KING!
"Oh no", the orc mocked sarcastically, "seven extra dwarves."
"But sir," cries another, "they're wearing plot armour!"
"Oh no!" The orc cried fearfully, "seven extra dwarves!"
"But wait theres more, its 13 extra dwarves"
I guess it's the plot armor that killed 3 of them then.
@@cybercriminal3110 Yup!
They got too much plot armor they got crushed by it.
Along with the fact the trolls died out of no where
@@jacobdaniel2195 Trolls get turned into stone from the sun light. Which part of your body was watching the movie?
Lord of the Rings: has some realistic battle tactics
Hobbit: Thorin Lv 50 with 20+ morale boost
It is modeled after a children's book more or less, you know. Kind of a meme the whole time with the dwarfs so I'm not surprised that its less realistic
I don't now about LOTR at times. There's a lot of cavalry rushing even when the orcs clearly have their bows ready.
@Max Payne to be fair these are rohirrim horses, which are much stronger than the horses "nowadays". plus they had a wizard at helm's deep and the orcs at Minas Tirith were scared shitless.
It was just as bad, if not worse in LOTR. At the end of Fellowship they fight off a literal army by themselves.
@Max Payne Uruk's were affected by -10 Morale though...
I like the way the orcs let both friends greet each other in the middle of the struggle without trying to kill them
😂😂😂 العفاريت فرحه بأجواء المودة بينهم😆😆😆
Cousins 😂
Except you can literally see dwarves make a perimeter around them and push the orcs back so they can speak since they're both royalty.
Thorin greeting his cousin during the battle like they just met for dinner just emphasises how completely devoid of any tension these action scenes are.
It was like watching a videogame... and even those have more tension. Haha
@@anothercat1300 yep. Dark Souls is capable of make me feel quite anxious.
@@emecevedo Dark Souls definitely! Dead Space for me is the cream of the crop in anxiety induction. Haha
Yeah honestly this cgi fest is awful. Like just watching pixels attack other pixels. Damn near meaningless
Nailed it.
I love how the massive elf army just disappears, and reappears as a small force 1/10 the size within the city.
IKR wtf
Most died in battle when they were heading to the city
I think
The elves went away to do something else I think
@@MorrosDeWa were you there?
“Sir the enemy has 10 more men”
“Nothing much we can continue the att”
“They’re characters”
“Oh shi”
"WHAT'S TO FEAR WITH THESE "CHARACTERS"?"
"They... They have the strongest armour in all of the realms. Plot armour."
don't forget to open the barricaded door to our heavily fortified mountain fortress to charge the besieging army.
"You mean with names and unique features?"
"Some of them yes, other ones, kind of"
"We are doomed"
It’s the morale boost look up what happens in battles when the generals and kings charge in with their troops
@@magnusthered4973 Very emotional dwarves.
No one else going to mention how painfully sad it is that sauron is so cruel that he litterly has trolls with mace hands with chains inside their eyes to be controlled like puppets? like just imagine how painful that must be to be controlled by someone pulling you by your eye sockets you would lash out
It works
@@Triumphantinwarandpeace yeah
…or maybe
Now, hear me out. What if?…. Trolls really just LOVE. to fight. Like that’s all they ever dream of doing when they’re NOT fighting. They’re like Huskies. Mfers go APESHIT when human besty tells them they bout to get they zoomies on. The clubhands? That’s just their body mod. THEY did THAT to themselves. Some people get their nipples pierced; trolls get their hands clubbed. You can get that procedure done in any of their malls.
The eye chains are really just a kink. It has no business being there. Unprofessional, i say. But hey, it’s 2022. I’m not gonna kinkshame. And so shouldn’t you.
Oh and plot twist: the trolls control the orcs.
😮🤯 i know. Shocker right?
Had you in the first half.
This is why we need more Orc/Troll representation in film. 😩 litterly No one ever cares about THEIR side of the story.
@@skadooshe5709
Nah man I don’t even think that’s the case for stumpy (yes that’s actually the troll’s name) he isn’t roaring in fury, he isn’t angry looking- he more looks like he’s in pain. And like- I can feel that happening, he’s in constant pain with his fucking weapons and the reigns attached to his eye lids. I think he’s begging for death at this point and we don’t even know it because he can’t speak any language. And in Lord of the Rings as a whole? The trolls are more used as slaves really! He mean they’re chained up, forced manual hard labor, and they’re too stupid to realize that they could take freedom any day but they just don’t understand the concept of it. The trolls that go to war? They’re smarter than the average troll sure! And they seem to have a lot of free will. But in the case for stumpy? And the other trolls who don’t get to choose? Well- it’s just a fucking sad existence.
Was looking for this comment. Btw their feet have been amputated to be replaced with Mace feet as well.
You know the rule of cool has gone too far when a character can headbutt orcs in heavy plate armor to death.
"Armor doesn't protect those who wear it" - All movie directors.
Fds
@@chivurinaresh3895 apc
He's a dwarf. With boar tusks fused with his mustache. He can do whatever he wants.
His beard gives him +100 AP, and +20% defense
When you realize even orcs have a better strategy than winterfell.
They're orcs not undead mindless zombies.
@@richmondlandersenfells2238 I think he was referring to the actual humans.
@@YawnWoofDog Oh...
We don't talk about that. Never!
Yoo maa kween!!
2:12 thorin has a shield
2:15 the shield is gone
2:20 the shield is back
He dropped it but styled it off really well and picked it up again
omg true
Thorin's Blinking Shield.
Thorin Hiddenshield
glitched gameplay
I don't think there are many scenes more anti climatic than this one in any movie. The horn bellows, a giant bell cracks a hole in the mountain and where one is expecting a thousand troops or more to join the battle and turn the tide, out comes Sneezy, Sleepy, Doc, Happy, Grumpy, Dopey and Bashful to save the day.
What?
@@domca4617 Late, but he basically said it would've been more badass if a large troop of dwarves came out, instead of just Thorin and his friends running out goofily.
And they come without armor, helmets, shields...
HAHAHAAAA!!!
12 ébano remontando una batalla, ridículo pero epico jaja
The reaction of the Trolls to a handful of Dwarfs charging from inside the mountain is the epitome of silliness in this movie. Plus the fact that Azog halted the army to get the Trolls into position just to drop like flies as soon as the battle started.
Well, they get their commands through horn-signals. Don't forget that trolls are pretty stupid, when they hear another horn-signal which sounds similar, they are stunned and don't know what to do with that.
But ye, them falling instantly each from one spear just like that was pretty lame.
@@XXLShortyXXL a spear hitting a troll of that size would be similar to an arrow hitting a human.
@@XXLShortyXXL I don't find it so shocking and pretty representative,
the fact that a dwarf can pierce the heart of a troll with a well-placed throw, surely made by some Longbeards do seem possible to me,
throughout the Battle, on several occasions there are dwarves who throw their spears before joining the close combat with a 2-handed weapon or a sword.
The only problem is from 6 trolls to only 2 alive, that a bit much, 2 or 3 killed/Wounded would have been more realistic though.
+ i like to think of it like the LotR Games for PS2 where you were able to kill trolls with a Spear throw !
@@Lukart44 these are the same dwarves that took a castle after the death of a dragon. I'm not sure if the orcs knew that Bard killed the dragon. But imagine the ones who you thought killed the dragon charge at you and give the others strength and motivation.
Trolls are stupid and not immortal, they can be killed with a spear. You just rooted for the orcs, although they lost not only in the movie, but also in the book
When Lv 50+ Heroes joins a battle with passive greater morale boost.
Cringe
nerf king :v
@@charon_lix No it's funny
@@charon_lix its actually funny.
You play bfme i see
Just add 10 people to an army and you'll win
Those 10 people were just for his Army Moral& spirit to fight more.
add moral to an army they will be a whole lot stronger
It’s morale, just sayin’. Anyway, yeah it’s stupid (the scene I mean, for other reasons).
a strategy used by many military strategy including Napoleon and its worked rather well!!!
They are lv100+
It’s hard to believe that this “battle” and Helm’s Deep were both directed by the same person.
I mean technically speaking they weren’t
You can bash this battle all you want, but I like it more than Helm's Deep
@@reek4062 Just out of curiosity here, what about it do you prefer?
@@dandaropa Both are stupid nonsense contradictory to the books, but the Battle of Five Armies doesn't hide it.
@@reek4062 Personally I don’t care about either being contradictory to the books, the films and the books are separate entities made by different people so it would only make sense that they’re not identical.
But how is Helm’s Deep stupid nonsense? To me it’s one of the greatest battles in all of film history. There are issues with it of course (mostly the battle being won by Gandalf and the Rohirrim, not anyone actually already in the battle, feels like a cop out to me. “And then thousands of horsemen who we’ve barely seen before turned up and saved the day” feels cheap) but there’s so much good in it that I can easily overlook these flaws I’ve thought of. The Five Armies doesn’t have the good, and has about a thousand times more bad.
Horn bonus
20% Attack Damage
40% Health -/ Stamina
Health -/ Stamina Regenerates 15% Faster
No fall damage
You forgot Thorins aura bonus for surrounding units.
Heroism from a shaman draw u forgot that :)
U forgot the heroism from a dwarf shaman
enemy debuff:
-90% movement speed, duration 10 sec upon cast
80% miss chance for the remaining of the battle
+ Stupid plot armor
Is nobody going to talk about how the elven army and the majority of dwarves just dissapeared ?
@gillmorAfr24 good point, elves did go to dale I think
This vid (and part 1) are the "action only" clips, so it skips a bunch of mid-battle stuff that happened like the elves just sort of fucking off to go defend the town
Just re-watched the movie, this vid actually cut out shit tons, not just talking but also epic battle scenes or overall important entertainment scenes. Bad cut I guess and my bad
Most of the dwarves died and alot of Elves died or went to sale to help the men
and are back again maybe 6 lines while the charge 2:38 and much more in the close combat 2:40 :D
Just like Warhammer. You give the dwarves leadership, and they’ll withstand a lot
*cough* *cough* Grombrindal is stupidly op when he has vanguard deployment *cough* *cough*
Ao rei ao rei pelo seu povooooooo
Basically Dwarves anywhere. Just make sure your dudes don't break they will literally fight their way through anything and everything.
Three to five units of ironbreakers and the rest are just Dwarven artilliary.
This is like a battle between dwarves after they got the giant slayers vs outdated greenskins
That horn of erabor gives goosebumps
@Billy Pribbo 💀💀💀
Fun fact, the trolls aren't cgi they're actually hired body builders from bulgaria
Really?
@@alexreasoner9919 Dead serious
@@DutchPlanDerLinde where’d you hear it
@@alexreasoner9919 the bulgarian weekly, dont tell me you’re not a follower
@@DutchPlanDerLinde where was that specific issue
I feel bad for the giant trolls, they're being tortured and puppeted
GamingPriests really don’t think that are giant orcs they look like some creature from some place they captured
Trolls.. they're trolls, cave trolls
@@joanng5505 have you not seen any of the movies
Those are cave trolls
The chains used to control it are in its eye sockets like damn
these doesnt even exist on Tolkien history
It would be so awkward when Thorin and his men realized they are the only one charging towards the orcs while his cousin and the rest of the dwarves went inside Erebor to barricade themselves.
CJ YR I wonder where the did the rest of the dwarf army came from when Thorin charged to the Azog.I know Ironfoot left some of this troops back (you can see the rest of them moving in around 0:55) and the new ones came with flags...
Peoples Liberation Army probably reinforcments
😂😂😂
@@mihailospasic153 from where?
Ivan Kuzmanovic mmmm the iron hills
Say what you will about this movie, but “To the king!” will always be incredible.
100% agree
100% disagree
lol sure
there s no king
I love how the orcs magically die when the dwarves had no archers
I think they CGId in some spears that were thrown but failed to properly CGI the spears being thrown.
Even trolls that die quick
They have the auto-crossbow on their goat chariot
they should have left several elves... And the scene would have made sense
@@MizanQistina lol
This just goes to show that CGI can't beat practical effects. Watch this and then compare it to the Fellowship fighting the Uruk-hai just before they all split up. Night and Day
Exactly my thoughts.
Also notice how the sound design in these battle scenes is absolutely atrocious compared to the lord of the rings trilogy.
Practical effects are easy when dealing with small skirmishes. But when you need an army for a full battle, nothing beats cgi.
@@BBBHuey Wrong. Mixing CGI with practical effects on large scale scenes is WAY better.
@@christianriddler5063 Exactly. Look at Helms Deep.
When our team is losing but a level 500 and his friends join the game:
TO THE KING
Insta win
@@christianfran7623 true
To the king! to the king! Oh I love that part
Star wars Battle Front 2 Vibes
“We dwarves are natural sprinters!, very dangerous in short distances”
Timestamp?
@@JohnyMiko it’s from lotr
oho
thats from Gimli
1:40 gives me goosebumps til this day omg
lmfao
@@tz7763 what’s funny
cute and badass at the same time
2:10 that is what why Alexander the Great conquered so much and never lost a battle. The morale boost to his soldiers of seeing their king fight alongside them is unfathomable.
Well, and after he finished with Erebor, he had enough gold to conquer parts of Asia.
he lost and gets injured in India and made stories about sparing them imagine a wannabe world king gonna do that
@@yeudler41 he lost and gets injured in India and made stories about sparing them imagine a wannabe world king gonna do that
@@animesloversunited9069 how do you know that? Where is your source. I'm very curious
@@momoproblems0 Must be some sort of Indian cow-lover looking back at when "India was strlong nation."
Yet, a simple Google search will show that Alexander died in Babylon (present-day Iraq) and did not even attempt to go into India due to morale and leadership issues. He is just ignorant.
The Lord of the rings orcs and battles look so much more realistic compared to the hobbit.
Yeah because they used real settings. Hobbit was just a big cgi fest
Because back then they use real people not CGI.
Nowadays it took times to assemble lots of people and tons of peripheral.
Not only times, money as well.
@@TheZombie2415 They didnt create the orcs with cgi but they damn sure enlarged the armies with it. So saying Lotr didnt use it isnt quite accurate.
@@TetsuoNL true but the main cast and some fight aren't fully CGI which makes it not unreal.
That's why people called things like Avengers/Hobbit/Ready player one a CGI galore because the fight itself is fully done in CGI.
Because the orcs were real. No duh
I hate how the Elven army just disappeared during this. They had a massive army and the last we see of it is in Dale with like 100 Elves.
Those faithless woodland sprites went to the city with Gandalf.
@@thewrathofagod along with the pretty elven king
At 0:36 you see there’s ONE Elven left, almost all are going to the city but few stayed helping the Dwarves
Yeah I hate how the movie kinda forgot the battle in the valley. The movie just stopped following the battle there and we never really know what happened to the elven army too.
Well you know how it is, it's been scientifically proven to be impossible to be consistant when filming a movie. Also the CGI budget was bleeding buckets so....
I have always found the bit at 0:45 the funniest thing when he starts gently nudging his un-armoured head against Orks wearing steel plate helmets and it somehow kills them.
Dwarfen heads are harder than stone so its more or less the same as of he hammered them
@@TheLastFlame2601 still silly af
I never interpreted it as them being killed, they're just getting knocked out lol
@@kevinvanhove5834 yeah same
Or maybe he just knocked him out
I love how Dain saves Thranduil. He's a smart enough leader to know their chances of a victory are increased if both of them are alive to lead.
When?
A bunch of orcs were piling on Thranduil at 0:04 and Dain bashes them away with his hammer haha
Nooo que va, thranduil no necesita que nadie lo salve, de seguro ese enano malvado trataba de golpear a mi hermosisimo rey.
@@Pezpielgamesdelusional aren't ya
@@Pezpielgames😂😂😂😂😂
Azog with thousands of Orcs, dozens of trolls and a bunch of were worms: You can't defeat me.
Dain with only a few hundred Dwarves left: I know, but he can!
*13 more Dwarves!*
He should be called "ironhead" instead of ironfoot.
Damn right. Them head butts could tranquilize a horse
It is true, I thought about this as well
so laughable
If that's what his head can do then I don't even wanna know the power of his namesake. He's just using 0.00000000000000000001 % of his power.
IKR
HE HAS BETTER HEAD THAN ORCS HELMETS
“To The King, To The King” gets me every time 🔥💯 ima need to get this extended version of the hobbit trilogy 💯 so much better then the theatrical version
Thorin wasn't a king
Just how hard is Dain’s head. He be headbutting like tanjiro
The actor's Glasgowness has rubbed off onto the character, causing him to execute a perfect Glasgow Heider 👍
And Bomber using his belly to knock out some orcs 😂
Tanjiro the Flamin Headbutt
"Dain headbutts an Orc through his helmet"
Me: wait, how does that work, iron is harder than a forehead
"He does it several times more"
Me: *sigh*
He was chewing 5-gum man, it really stimulated his senses
That's how stubborn & hard-headed dwarves are.
In the books it was stated that dain has the headbutt of a ram so I'm not surprised he did more damage to the orcs than himself
Also known as a Glasgow Heider 👍
more like ironhead than ironfoot
I love how Thorin just casually reunites with his cousin in the middle of the friggin battle
Hey man how've you been?
I've been okay my friend, what of you?
I"ve donked 400 orcs this battle, I'm enjoying myself. I'll go get the kettle going.
@@thegregitto oh nice I was drinking some coffee while watching this
Similar to Gimli and Legolas at Helms Deep, casually having an orc killing contest.
I love how there was just a big ass battle between the dwarves and elves but there are no bodies from that and meanwhile, the elf army just disappears.
I guess that's what happens when your "strategy" is to jump over a shield wall to engage larger, stronger, heavier opponents that also happen to be heavily armored and much much more numerous
It was lazy writing. Apparently the elves were the most complex cgi to create so they only used them in a few scenes
Peter Jackson didn't have the same funds, control, NOR the same time, to devote to "The Hobbit" as he had been given for "Lord of the Rings". Also, he has a great love of CGI. His use of such in Fellowship and Two Towers was limited, due to it being a relatively new technique, and the films are all the better for their sparing use. He used more in Return (obviously needed with the Ghost Army, etc) but you can tell that, of the three, that last film has aged less well than the first two. Practical effects are ALWAYS better, with limited CGI to just add some "flair".
But if he HAD been given the same time, control, and funds to make The Hobbit, even with more use of CGI, I'd bet it would have been a better trilogy. It's a fun watch as it is, but a poor adaptation of the book; which is the biggest shame as LotRs is THE best adaptation of ANY book I've ever had the privilege to watch.
They were shown going to the city and there were bodies shown
@@IvorEyesshow they literally went to the city
Watching the elves fight is so satisfying. They are literally in sync with each other. Wish they included more scenes.
What elves? There are no... Ohhhhhh....
This shit makes me emotional my dad introduced me to hobbit and lord of the rings when i was young he died 3 years ago so it brings back good memories watching these clips remember that we always used to watch this
Yeah me too we are the same.
Yeah me too we are the same.
I feel sorry for you, but better read the books again than watching all this overstated CGI nonsense
I'm sorry...
your father is great.
Good memories living with you .
I'm sorry but remember he is in the shire smoking some good weed waiting for you to come one day and smoke together
The setup with that gigantic golden bell, the obivious copy of Gimli in Helm's Deep with Bombur, the fact that an army of dwarves in heavy plate armor seems to be desparate for the help of another dozen or so dwarves with vastly inferioir equipment, the surprised look on Azogs face, all while he is standing on a hill far away, so he probably can't see a damn thing - all this creates a very unique moment. Infact it is such a unique moment, that it would cause even the mighty Smaug himself to cringe so hard, he'd have goosebumps all over those powerful dragon scales.
I agree it's a bit silly but you'd be surprised by how much of a factor morale played in historical battles
@@julesdebeckker627 Good point! One can even observe that in sports often.
To be fair to Azog. He IS far away, which means he was watching his troops win the battle through superior numbers and his tactical and strategic moves using the horns. Now he is watching his troops get walked through like shallow water. He is confused AF.
🤣😂 after they blow there big Horn you think it's a bigger army coming out of there
Navajo no he is correct, it’s there
@@JeradoFPS Are you and that guy slow?
Vortex Vortex there is to describe a place such as the place they were coming out of. “Their” is used to possess as in “that’s not their house”
Wake the fuck samurai, we have a city to burn I didn’t see the horn part. But you are right he is supposed to use “their” for the horn and “there” for the place they are coming out of
Sorry guys for my broken English 😥 I'm not perfect
Why does everything in The Hobbit look like a floaty cartoon? After the masterpiece of The Lord of the Rings, how did they simply forget about all the things that made it look so good!?
they didnt forget. check out a documentary about the films production - its a total mess.
@@samturner6061 how was it a mess? I recently got into lotr and i agree how tf is the original so much better lol
@@habibcicero3833 Production problems. They were rushed hard by the top execs to just get it done, they had to sacrifice a lot of heart and quality to just spew out a product that would make a lot of quick money. And it did. Most people don't give a flying fuck about quality, just look at the success story that is the Fast and Furious franchise.
budget cuts?! lol and fast money of course since it was based on the original lotr
And it was originally 2 films but then studio mandate turned it into 3 films for another trilogy. The LOTR books got a movie each, but the Hobbit was one book split into 3 films.
thays pretty messed up what they did with that troll, cut off arms and legs with control through the eyes..damn
Maybe he got crippled in battle but they managed to save him?
@@cooperchance7720 orcs don't know what the word "save" means
Torture for fun , maybe was used as sports just like the skinchangers
Reminds me of dragonshard and how they ripped the eye sockets of beholders to control them.
I was thinking about that watching it but then realized that cutting the legs off and replacing them with those metal things makes the troll harder to take them for infantry units since there are no anckles to cut
When you watch the scenes a few times over, you realize just how gruesome this was. The way things died...
2:16 "We have a couple of extra guys vs this entire army lets go!!!!!"
Well, it’s the king so they’ve clearly gotten some motivation to fight. I mean if my president fought alongside me, I’d be motivated.
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Watching all the Hobbit movies made me appreciate how badass the dwarves are but it also led me to think about what their "abilities" are compared to the Elves. First, it seems like they're exceptionally durable. The way Dain Ironfoot repeatedly headbutts Orcs who are wearing armor makes me think the Dwarves have especially thick bones, much more than the Elves, Men, or Orcs. Of course, there are many other examples of their extraordinary endurance. Second, they have profoundly fast reflexes. While certainly not on the level of Elves, it's enough to give them a deadly prowess in battle against any enemy. Thirdly, they appear to be phenomenal engineers and are capable of building advanced tools of warfare that the other races don't have the skill/materials to build.
I've never read the books so I don't know if any of that is true to canon. Also, they have war-goats, so that's pretty cool too.
Don't forget, they are legendary drinkers, thanks to their durability!
Dwarves are exceptionally durable alright. Unless on cross-country
that low-key badassery is only for these pathetic movies which look like a trailer for a second-rate vidya game. the only thing that holds true is their durability. they were intentionally made so kewl bc the studio demanded to "entertain audiences" first and foremost.
This is all plausible though. They evolved to live underground in much tougher physical conditioned and lead lives that get their hands much more dirty. (Figuratively speaking ofc, not necessarily literally getting their hands dirty.
@@helekin2000 but they're very dangerous short sprints lol (or was that how the line went..?)
"Would you rather get 1 Trillion USD or follow the footsteps of Thorin Oakenshield for one last battle?"
Me and the bois: TO THE KIIIIINGGG!!!
ive never watched any of these movies in my entire life... i genuinely enjoyed these clips lol
2:05 "Oh no! it's the plot armour squad!"
gotta love the power of the plot armor.
power of morale
Its doesn't have to be a plot armor, many kings like Alexander The Great, Jan III Sobieski foughts in front ranks in any battle and almost never get hurt
@@avrace2708 Not in fights where they were outnumbered and outgunned ten to one.
@@flakes1972 Well in WW2 in battle of Vizna Polish army had 700 soldiers and fought against German army with 40k soldiers, even with tanks, planes, heavy altillery. Poland losed, but they fought for 3 DAYS, and Germany lost much more soldiers. For me this battle was much more impresive than battle in Hobbit yet still it was real life
3:26 there is a troll who is amputee of both legs, both hands, has his eyes gauged and replaced with chain. Orcs are good at making prosthetic. But I kind feel sorry for this doomed creature.
Trolls: dying in real time
Everyone else: *still running in slow motion*
0:36 rip war pig... good little piggy
William Stewart बावली
And that's how bacon came to be.
@@MrHall8 lmao
Ikr man that made my day seeing him ride into battle on a fuckin pig like fr man that pig is an inspiration
That'll do pig, that'll do.
Man, if only peter Jackson had time to develop and put his touches in the hobbit properly without WB Studios forcing him to rush production. These battle scenes would've been epic like LOTR and wouldn't have gotten a choppy story line.
That's WB for you, always in a rush. They did the same thing with JL
@@mohammednurul9380 As much i hate WB, disney always do it worse
Actually, they took 1 year off just to organize and do preproduction to this last film, that's why it premiered 2015 and not 2014
Should have only been a single movie. The Hobbit was a child's story and had no business being 3 films.
"To the King to the King" ❤️
This words shivers my heart.
So the goats in the beginning just all died after they charged?
Yeah, They are all scapegoats anyway.
Not all of them they had extra goats
@@kamikaze0258 XD
This is not even close to Lord of the Rings quality of battle. What the hell happened?
Even more of an over reliance on special effects and CGI
Peter Jackson lost his passion with LotR ,srly. He filmed LotR in 3 Years with 3 year pre and post producton (combined)
The fighting is just so effortless for them. It's so fake feeling.
money
I would be disappointed if this was a hobbit trailer for PS4 tbh
Me: "How can a 10-men reinforcement really turns the tide of battle against thousands of enemies?"
The Hobbit: *"Yes"*
Well, it's not change the battle's tide. Majority of dwarfs were still overwhelmed. the arrival of eagles are the one that change the tide of the battle
power of bad writing, even in the books when Thorin and co. appear the battle still is slowly becoming a defeat for the dwarves,elves and humans until the Eagles and Beorn break havoc and kill the orcs leader Bolg
How not?
Because they're *m a i n c h a r a c t e r s.*
The army with great morals fights much better than army without.
The battles in LoTR feel like they're actually happening. The battles in this feel like a video game.
Cry about
Who cares nerd💀
0:47 that looks ridiculous, why do the orcs even wear helmets for
Looks like dwarves get the same plot armour/attacks as hobbits.
They should’ve re done that scene it is silly
What helmet
Dwarves are stronger I guess lol. Naturally stronger heads, evolution probably lol
If i'm not mistake, the book Said that Dain have a Strong forehead, his head butts compares to a boar charge. Dain's beard looks like boar's tusks.
Before Thorins arrival: Oh bois, those trolls are pretty hard to kill.
After Thorins arrival: Oh wait, we got some damn spears, why don't we throw 'em at those trolls?
I’m sure the dwarves were, but they were throwing their spears into the crowds of orcs where the dwarves lines were either gonna collapse or have broken through
2:10 Random ally: "HERES OUR REINFORCEMENTS!"
Second guy: "But they are only... 10 people..."
Another guy: "Screw it! 10 more guys is better than nothing. CHARGE!"
jun le Third Guy: He’s our King!
10 guys with plot armors
Vash Stampede plot armors lol but 3 of them died. So far plot armor
jun le the power of King is far greater than an army
jun le its about spirit mann. Dont u know how dwarfs act?
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I know its been a year since you posted this comment but i cannot believe that i actually found someone who actually likes the movie and doesn't criticize every little fucking detail. Much love man!!
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He was headbutting the shit out of everyone at 0:39 😂
Where elves disapeared?
They retreated to the city and left the dwarves to the bulk of the orc’s army
@@WitcherGerd lol imagine having the best archers back and firing from the walls... and leaving the "brutes" up front to BRUTILIZE the enemy...
u dont put all ur eggs in one basket if u dont have too.. lol
@@InanisNihil obviously. Can't have your best range players trying to tank
@@WhatACoolArrow except the elves are just as good up front as they are range.. they shot their shots then close in to throw hands.. 😂
The elves charged at the city of Dale.
I love Dáin’s “TO THE KING! TO THE KING!!!” 🪓😤
1:15 If you take your time to count the amount of troops here, you'll see that the dwarves are around ~250 and the ONE formation of orcs is 240, while the one in the front is around 550. That means ~250 dwarves defeated roughly 2700 heavily armored orcs (that stood in formation btw) + a few trolls (that literally crushes several dwarves by themselves just a few seconds earlier)
HOWEVER if you look at 2:40, the dwarves somehow got into formation AND duplicated themselves enough to turn into 800 dwarves rather than just 250. While the orcs lost all formation, even the ones in the back for whatever reason.
I mean, is it really that hard for a big studio to stay consistent? Such a pathetic movie.
Rewatching this cashgrab makes me sick.
That's why the Hobbit was the only movie I could not finish watching. It was that bad.
Cause they are fans of the 300 lol
This isn't criticism.
This is just nit pickin
You're right, but the movie was literally in developer hell. If you watch the behind the scenes features you can see Jackson laying on set, semi-awake, pondering how to save the film.
Thranduil: Attempts to look cool by twirling his fancy sword
Dain: Im just gonna fuckon headbutt em
everyone: dwarves are not fast in close quarters combact
the dwarf at 3:06 in the right
For me there is nothing more emotional than watching a wavering army realise their doom but then their worries dissipate as they accept their end and in that final moment they rally and fight harder than they've ever fought in their entire lives with a unified emotion, passion, strength and unity.
3:43 'Press R1 to mount Troll'
When you have a castle but don't use it because you need the drama.
Dain: "TO THE KIIIIIIIIING"
Also Dain: Becomes king of Erebor.
David Howe we know but Thorin dies and then Dain becomes King. Saw that the other day.
Dain never be the king of erebor ,he is Iron hill's king and people of durin.I mean he doesnt run erebor nor he stays there.Dwalin is there
Elvice you are wrong. Read it up before you speak. Dain becomes King and reestablishes Erebor. That is what happens in the book:)
Christoffer Puck
And in the movie extended version
@@luisemilioyanez7404 Dain became one of the best kings Erebor ever had after Thorin's death.
In the book it is explained to us that the coordination of Thorin first and the audacity of Dáin second transmitted confidence and courage to the others, as Gimli says, the dwarves are too good at short notice.
4:28 if you listen really carefully you can hear they reused one of Gimli’s sounds 😂
It’s the same one when he gets hit into the water at helms deep.
True!
Right, and its from Helms Deep? :D Nice
Has ANYONE other than me, ever wondered what it would have been like to be a common warrior in such a battle?
Know that no, you are not the only one my friend,
And for a very long time I also asked myself this question and even would have wanted to be there myself to see it with my own eyes,
but it must be admitted that on the condition of being highly skilled in the art of Combat in a real melee,
Life expectancy should not be very long there...
nah fr I'm so dumb for stuff wtih a lot of people, specially if they all look the same to me, I wouldn't be able to know who's my team and who isn't, I couldn't even play soccer at my school because of that lol
@@Lena-ff5hrthat was a big problem in history as well, another reason why they used actual battle lines, battles only very rarely devolved into this kind of melee, most likely you'd be standing shoulder to shoulder with your mates with a spear and a shield, or a halberd or bill if we're talking about roughly 14th-15th century European levels of armour
2:25 they can range kill the armored trolls so quickly
3:27 oh big naked one, well shit!
"Well, as everybody knows, armor doesn't actually do anything. Its just a visual effect." - every movie director ever.
I've seen this battle scene like 10 times, and I still don't know how those trolls just randomly died.
@@m3gusta17 i think some of the dwarfs threw their spear at them.
In my opinion, in the film I think there should have been more scenes between the dwarf army and the battle. In the extended part there are carts, and the sheep then disappear. I think it deserves an explanation. In my opinion, the dwarf army is awesome.
i really wish dain had more involvement in these films , hell he even deserves his own film for how badass he is
Sadly no, in The Lord of the Rings, Dain had to defend Erebor from a host of Easterlings, (off camera, just what Tolkien has told us) and eventually died. Erebor was almost overrun, as was dale, but eventually the mountain’s defense destroyed the Easterling horde
And Mirkwood was still recovering from the Battle of Five Armies
I have always loved the Dwarfs since the Lord of the Rings came out and i love how much they focused on them in the newer movies. They are some of the best characters throughout this all.
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I love how when it’s focused on Thorin, Kili, and Fili fighting it’s all serious but when focused on any other dwarf int he company there’s a humorous feel to it
2:56.. Now that's what I call a dropkick, Lol..
I really wish Del Toro had a chance to finish these movies. Seeing a troll with its hands and feet replaced with weapons and it’s being steered by chains hooked up to its eyes is something else
finish? he never started
@@deusextalkina7722 he did actually. He helped out with a lot of the writing and pre production.
@@lukasmeggs5857 yes but you said "finish" like he was involved in filming \and production. He was only in PrePro
@@deusextalkina7722 preproduction is still a part of the filmmaking process lol. And a part the director is in charge of, so yes, using “finish” in this context is perfectly acceptable lol
Imagine a king who fights his own battles. Wouldn't that be a sight?
To The King! To The King!
Of all the warlords loved by the gods, I hate him the most.
1:08 so you're telling me this dwarf has to stab the orc several times with a spear to kill him, but dain can casually headbutt an orc wearing a steel helmet and kill him?
The headbutt didn’t kill an orc, it knocked them out.
2:39 I imagine that Jackson thought this shot of the dwarves wading forward, splitting the orc lines like a tide would look incredibly cool.
But to me it looks unfeasible. We've just had a prolonged battle where we've seen the armies of King Dain and the Gundabad Orcs being somewhat evenly matched, with the orcs winning through weight of numbers. The dwarves were clearly depicted looking exhausted and wounded as they retreated to the gates of Erebor, and then suddenly they're washing aside what is clearly shown to us to be a VAST army of foes that has already been demonstrated to be competent in their strength and brutality.
And suddenly they're being washed away, like they're not even there, by this supposedly exhausted and numerically inferior force of dwarves that they were defeating soundly five minutes ago?
It's kinda daft.
Tbf, I don't even think Peter Jackson was proud of this movie. Heard he was brought in very late into the thing, and he had been writing scripts like a day before shooting or something. I may be wrong.
But wereworms, giant trolls with prosthetic maces, Dwarves, Woodland Elves, giant trained bats, a grey Wizard, Hobbits, an enormous solid gold bell the size of a 4 story building and a hoarde of gold larger than all the gold in existence... All seems legit though..
"Fantasy" as in "fantastic story".
@@dj11o9er You are.
I mean.....what?
This movie took 4 years to make. And "shooting"?........ What?
%75 was "captured" digitally using blue screen and actors wearing onesies with contact visual points.
Took more than 4 years to make this entire movie. The entire crew and actors were all flown all around the world to "shoot" real footage.
Were you just being sarcastic? Taking the piss?
@@lilmike2710 Dude, physics still works the same. There's simply not enough dwarves to make it not look daft on film.
anyone notice how the elves just disappear by the end of this? I saw the leader and then the skirt/ kilt of a standing elf warrior when they were focusing on the Dwarf leader, but then when they regroup in this part there's literally no sign of them and don't even get me started on how both the dwarven[especially them] and elf army shrinks to about a fraction of what was portrayed in the beginning as soon as the orcs show up just to emphasize how outnumbered they are.... and yea, I know it's a move, but let's be a little consistent here., update, I'm also apparently stupid for not realizing that this was an edited and that the elves actually went off somewhere to provide support
The elves left to the city
Encouraging the battle and their Bravery takes over... Enough Commenting.👍
well, the battle actually lasts for days in the book. plus the elves, dwarwes and men were severely outnumbered to begin with
Thorin an hour before this scene: let me just put this very strong shiny armor so that the orcs have an idea who they are dealing with
Also Thorin minutes before this scene: let me lose this shit Imma fight these bastards without armor
Cool armours indeed.
1:40 morale boost +50%
Add 7 players with plot armor