The Best Gaming PC Upgrades, Min/Maxing an RTX 4090 ⚡ Build Fix Ep2
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- Опубліковано 15 тра 2024
- The Best Gaming PC Upgrades, Min/Maxing an RTX 4090 ⚡ Build Fix Ep2
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Build Fix is my monthly series with a simple goal -- helping viewers choose the right PC parts to build with when they are building a new gaming computer. Each episode covers multiple builds submitted by viewers, combing through parts lists to recommend the best CPU and GPU combos, the best SSDs for a gaming PC, the best memory for a gaming PC, the best gaming PC cases, the best gaming PC motherboards, and generally speaking the best bang-for-your-buck PC hardware so you can build a cost effective rig with maximum performance per dollar.
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0:00 Welcome to Build Fix - Powered by PCPartPicker
0:58 How Build Fix Works
1:29 Build 1 - Overhauling NoobSniper’s Canadian Gaming PC
9:35 Build 2 - How to Upgrade an Older AM4 PC
15:05 Build 3 - A New $1300 1440p AM5 Gaming PC Build
18:56 Build 4 - How to get the most out of an RTX 4090 without overspending
⚒ Build Upgrades
Build 1 - submitted by @NoobSniper
Before: ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/Xbs8...
My Upgrades: 14700KF (more cores for work), 32GB DDR5 + DDR5 Mobo, 7900 GRE
Intel Core i7-14700KF 20-core CPU - geni.us/uPgs0d
MSI PRO Z790-S WiFi Motherboard - geni.us/3lqILv2
G.SKILL Ripjaws S5 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 - bit.ly/3UbEo6a
GIGABYTE Radeon RX 7900 GRE Gaming OC 16G - geni.us/RCiCA
Build 2 - submitted by @matthewsmith22
Before: pcpartpicker.com/user/paulsha...
My Upgrades: Swap CPU for 5700X3D/5800X3D, swap memory kit to 32GB
AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D 8-core CPU - geni.us/rT4ryLI
TEAMGROUP DDR4 32GB (2x16GB) 3200MHz CL16 - geni.us/rJQGr
TEAMGROUP MP33 2TB NVMe PCIe Gen3 M.2 2280 SSD - geni.us/lq1N
🆕 New Builds
Build 3 - Mid-range Micro ATX, $1300 budget submitted by @SeamusLowe-nl4il
Before: pcpartpicker.com/user/Seadadd...
My Upgrades: Swap $295 7600X+AIO for 7700+Air; 7900 GRE for $20 more
AMD Ryzen 7 7700 8-Core CPU - geni.us/ZipPu
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 Cooler - geni.us/IQMpP
GIGABYTE Radeon RX 7900 GRE Gaming OC 16G - geni.us/RCiCA
Build 4 - submitted by @its_jakester
RTX 4090 Founders Edition blank canvas
(trying to get the most out of the 4090 without overspending)
NVIDIA RTX 4090 Founders Edition - geni.us/gRvQwm
AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D 8-Core - geni.us/Y9WONXt
Thermalright Phantom Spirit 120 EVO - geni.us/fqu3VSc
TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32GB (2x16GB) DDR5 6400 - geni.us/qB9M
TEAMGROUP MP33 2TB NVMe PCIe Gen3 M.2 2280 SSD - geni.us/lq1N
Fractal Design Torrent Black Tempered Glass Case - geni.us/O1Ie1N
Thermaltake Toughpower GX3 850W PSU - geni.us/fv6N1uo
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UA-cam's notifications across the top of my phone cut part of the name of the channel off. Just says Paul's hard!
I have a checkmark after "Paul's Hard", so it's verified.
I mean, his innuendos have been signaling this for years now 😂
If its hard for a parts picker.... Dare i ask what happens on a probing Paul video...
It’s not wrong. It’s either that or probes
Oh my
It's vindicating to finally see a PC youtuber also have to wade through PC part prices in Canadian dollars 😅
I love when Dawid does tech stuff tells us about how Canadian money is monopoly money
just came here to thank you, Paul, from the bottom of my heart, since I was able to finish building my new/old PC with your videos just yesterday!
Should have stuck with non-f since intel quick sync really helps with video editing - more flexibility with gpu.
Yeah people really underestimate how much Quicksync carries in video editing
To be fair, when the price difference isn't huge, having the igpu can come in handy in a lot of ways (troubleshooting or gpu suddenly dying, to name a couple)
Hey, that's me! Thanks for the feedback and upgrade options on my build, Paul 🙂 You nailed it with the monitors; started off with the 1080p one and purchased the 1440p one a few years later. I've debated upgrading the platform to DDR5 as you pointed out, however, instead of going for a 13th/14th gen CPU, I'm considering waiting for 15th gen to hopefully have a better CPU upgrade path down the road.
As a side note, at the time when I purchased the 12600k + mobo (combo for $255 USD), the equivalent DDR5 RAM and Z690 mobo was close to $350 USD by itself, not factoring in the cost of the CPU. As others have pointed out, Canadian pricing on tech and hardware in general is 10-15% higher than US folks unfortunately.
The 4090 FE "blank canvas" build was fantastic value AND performance, even factoring in a slightly overpriced GPU!
Dude -- nothing against Paul but AMD is absolutely smoking Intel as of right now and 12 months from now the situation for Intel is going to be even more dire. Further beyond 12 months things may start to get even again. I recommend seriously looking at your upgrade paths before making a decision.
>better upgrade path
>intel
Choose one... not to mention the next gen won't even have hyperthreading and potentially less cores...
That said, if you can wait, ALWAYS wait to see what other options come around with the new intel and amd cpus coming up...
@@MattJDylan Worst comes to worst, if 15th gen isn't great, 13th and 14th gen CPUs and mobos will likely drop in price anyways so works out that way. Could always go AMD as well with a 7800X3D or 8000 X3D equivalent if it makes more sense, price to performance wise 👍
@@NoobSniper yeah exactly! Having more options viable options is always best, even when it means waiting some months for new stuff to come out: if worst comes to worst, decent older stuff will get cheaper (like intel 12th gen or radeon 6000 gpus)
Glad to see you do this type of content.
Jason of pcbuilder does videos regularly.
I like the variation of thoughts on part component matches for best price to performance.
I’m glad to see you still making videos. I wanted to thank you for helping me build my first PC. I learned from the Newegg 3 part series. I would rewatch it a lot and take notes so I could remember what parts to look at when I would go to Fry’s. That started my love for computers. I am forever grateful for those times and the help you shared for free.
PCpartPicker + Paul?! Awesome!
Awesome video, Paul!
Great video. I finally got a job and will be starting soon. So I am looking at parts for my next build and setup overhaul later this year. :)
thats cool af that you help out like this optimizing peoples builds!
Thanks for showing a Build from Canada, so everyone can see how much we're suffering due to 'Overpriced' PC Components! We pay on average $200.00 more per Part than you do in the U.S. !!
Small Upgrade: Replacing my B450 Motherboard/w a B550 Model to house my New Ryzen 7 5700X 3D CPU & my RX7600xt GPU. B450 Motherboard being Sent Out for RMA to Gigabyte Canada.
Come to eastern Europe and this will become +400 euros per part
Loving this series mate, keep em coming! Im building a new PC soon and have most of my parts I wish you had done this series sooner I would of submitted my parts :) Keep the videos coming
Great stuff Paul, thanks.
Great info, thanks Paul 👍
love that you have high bitrate videos with really high resolutions stuff paul makes your videos always look super clean!
Was hesitant on buying my parts, but feel better about it now! Thank you good sir! Also not many pronounce my name correctly so thank you for that!
Great series and lessons for the newbie builders. Hair pulling stuff seeing a low TDP chip being paired with a 360 AIO. Here's hoping this video can reach many peeps so that they don't post silly builds on Reddit.
Having said that Paul, after my recent RMA experiences with Corsair who upgraded my PSU when I received a faulty replacement unit, I would go with Corsair even if it means spending extra simply for their after sales support. I've never experienced anything like it.
You two rock!
Love that intro!
Here to support Paul let's go
My 1st build I used Asrock and have used them ever since. Never had an issue. Love em!!
If I ever upgrade my platform I will go with ASRock for a more budget friendly option
@@SkateClipsAndTips I'd put the nova 790 up against any overpriced mobo
Fantastic!
excellent!
Good stuff
lets goooooo stay happy brah
Vouch for that 4070 SUPER recommend in NoobSniper's build, that's the upgrade path I took and it felt really nice.
Excellent
I too am still on anAM4 platform and had recently upgraded from an R5 3600 to an R7 5800x3D when I saw it went on sale for less than 290 bucks, I then added a second 16GB kit of Vengeance LPX 3200 cl16 to get a total of 32GB of 3200 cl16 RAM. This removed all the hitching and stuttering I had initially experienced in Cyberpunk 2077.
Also agreed that the Thermalright heatsink is more than enough for the AMD processors.
This video has been very validating for my upgrade decisions.
Curious what graphics card you're using, and what resolution and refresh rate you're targeting, I've also got a 3600 and am thinking of upgrading to a 5800x3d (rtx 3070, 1440p 60hz) but am trying to decide whether to do that or to upgrade my monitor first
I have a Gigabyte Eagle 6700XT.
So far most of the displays I have access to are 1080p, I aim for 70 - 80 FPS so that I can limit it back down to 60 fps and feel good that even in the heat of things, I'll still have enough headroom to push out my display's refresh rate.
While the R5 3600 worked great for optimized current titles like Doom and gave me adequately high enough average frame rates in Cyberpunk (around 70-75fps at 1080p native) and RoboCop: Rogue City that used the new UE5 engine, I'd get hitching and stuttering in Cyberpunk in particular and less so (but still noticeable stutters) in RoboCop. Changing graphical settings would raise the average FPS numbers but didn't solve the hitching, which led me to believe that the R5 3600 was getting a little long in the tooth, so I pulled the trigger when I noticed the 5800X3D went on sale.
Great advice on the upgrades, Build 3 is a awesome example, of how to balance a system. I think if you can afford over $2k for a video card, you can afford an SSD with Gen4 PCIe and dedicated cache.
That's a nice intro dude
To think over a year ago I got a 12900k, Asus Z790 motherboard and 32gb 6000 GSKill DDR5 ram at MicroCenter for a total of $325. Thats why I only shop there. 10 minutes away
Hail MicroCenter! We have 2 here.
Paul, there's much talk and reviews about graphics cards but nothing about monitors and what to look for. I would think that both items and cables would be part of the graphics content to realize a super decent experience in either gaming or in all around computer needs.
For the 4090 build I am a fan of all the storage. I would go for 2x 4t nvme drives for all the things
Please explain your PSU picks. Do you not have to times the wattage by 1.5 for the right size?
Paul, your first review you you mention the Z690 or Z790 and there are many but you mentioned overclocking.... Don't most motherboards overclock by default?
For the last build i would change into a cheaper case but with good airflow like the Antec Performance 1 FT.
Or even cheaper Lian-Li Lancool 216. And then get a 1000W+ PSU instead. That 850W is a bit on the low side for a 4090 system.
For video editing, it might be worth it going for the non-f cpu... to have the integrated graphics.
Nice video. My R5 3600 machines will likely get 5700X upgrades at some point, but they're not my main game machines so it's less of an issue as their GPU's are the bottleneck at the moment.
Only thing I don't really agree with is spending extra for WiFi on an ATX motherboard. It's something most will never need or use and a wired connection is going to be more consistent for gaming. I'd shift the difference in price to storage or peripherals or a good Cat6e cable.
If it was a Mini-ITX build, then yeah, it's effectively portable so you could run into scenarios where WiFi's your only option. Plus it's generally included on most boards that size anyway.
Hi, been sub on your chanel for a long time,im looking currently to upgrade my pc, can i get your opinion on what should I get, im looking to upgrade the processor,graphic and maybe the motherboard? I don't know the details of my components on top of my head, but i can find out what i have, thank you, i hope i can in touch with you Paul 😊
Love this video. I have $3200 to spend on a PC for gaming. That last build is looking pretty good. I have not built a PC in about 20+ years I will have to watch some of the vids to see whats new. Unless you want to build it for me Paul on your channel?............let me know. I initially was going to try and find a prebuilt with the hyte y70 touch.
Love the vid as always. Keep them coming.
I recommend using 1,500 on a PC and putting the rest in savings. No reason to spend that much on a PC unless you plan on gaming all day every day :/
I have just purchased a 4090 graphics card. Would it be ok to share with you my current PC components and get your opinion on whether I need to upgrade any of them?
hello!! How do I send my pcpartpicker build for fixing?
Have you ever done a windows sysprep upgrade ?
all anecdotal, but the 3 builds i made for myself (b350 pro4) and for two friends( b450 pro 4, b550 steel legend) with asrock boards never had problems, be it with ram or other things. but the two builds i made with msi boards ( both b450 tomahawk max) i made for other two friends had always ram problems until somehow recent bios updates( the ram i choose was listed as supported). so as always it's a: it depends situation.
Cool !
I would love a report on best 35" to 45" TVs for PC gaming because I now use my monitor for streaming movies as well as gaming.
Does anyone know the make and model of the mechanical keyboard that Paul is using on his desk?
Hey Paul, any chance you can make your merch more international friendly, the cost of shipping outside the US of A is eye watering?
Why sort by memory timings and not just everything under 10-11ns under first word latency? I use this feature exclusively since they introduced it. Am I missing something?
im looking for uppgrade amd/Nvidia or intel/Nvidia or all in for AMD
Watching these kinds of contents knowing I can't afford it 😂😂
Please, what MB would you suggest me for 7800x3d, budget max 200-250$, gaming only? I would appreciate any your feedback
Ah,. those were the days, when making a monthly build series actually made sense :P
Hi paul! I have a 7700k with a gtx1080... Time for a whole new system yes? Please say yes.
Asrock boards are normally fine, I do have a minor gripe with how they label m.2 drive generations and the way they layout the bios. Its doesn't amount to much more than minor annoyances.
Worth noting that unless they plan on replacing entirely, buying ddr5 now makes more sense because when Intel launches the next platform it will likely be ddr5 only going forward. So if they plan on upgrading and not changing everything they can save a little bit. If they already have a ddr4 system I'd say unless essential upgrading to a Intel system might be worth waiting for Intel core ultra 200 (terrible naming Intel! ) and grab clearance 1700 socket boards if they still want that to save even more. With the recent top end Intel chip issues might also be better to avoid these until that gets resolved.
One thing that was overlooked since there's so many things to consider so I get it... not all drives that have dram cache list that they do. Perfect example the Team MP34 that was cheaper than the MP33 Paul chose at 12:42 has a dram cache, but doesn't list it. IMO better to get the dram drive so you're less boxed in if you ever pick up heavier work loads that would be slowed down by not having the cache. Paying more is debatable in it's value, but in this example the drive with dram was cheaper. Also, I agree Paul I don't get why some people get the ick when you talk about Asrock mobos, like they split off from ASUS and are just as good as MSI and Gigabyte mobos in quality/issues. My B650 Live mixer has been fine for me. Besides last few times CPU's have had issues it's been ASUS boards that are overvolting and causing damage.
Im waiting on AM6, I dont mind AM5 its amazing. I dont see any reason for me to upgrade till then. My am4 setup is barely 3 years old.
24:00 That PSU has a 450W 12VHPWR connector and not the full 600W. You'd be better served by a 1KW with the 600W 12VHPWR connector
it seems like 4090 FE and others are becoming more available. hopefully more people can get one
Welcome back to PC Part Builder! I’m ……… I’m …….. 😐 …….. Paul. 😂 Good episode bro! I couldn’t help myself. 🤙 Edit: I was just catching up on “Boost My Build” on Jason’s channel, when I got the notification for this vid.
I am on z490 platform with an i7 10700 and a 3060ti. Once my gpu dies I plan on picking up the 7700xt, and upgrading my monitor, but I feel like my platform/cpu will be a bottleneck. I game at 1080p resolution, do you recommend I upgrade my platform along with the new gpu?
My monitor is 1080p 75mhz 1ms, I plan on upgrading my monitor to 165mhz 1ms
I get water-cooling is expensive, but most people seem to forget the noise component.
long time viewer, still love your content!
Good AIOs shouldn't be audible, even at 100% pump speed. I can't hear the pump on my LT520 AIO at all.
@@Zxanonblade yes, that's my point. The low noise levels compared to a fan build. It's underrated for sure. Lol
@@blacksmokerise oh I thought you were one of those who thinks that the pumps are super loud. Ignore my comment then lol
Gaming my system regularly uses 20gig of memory but it has never broached 32g. It has 64 installed. So I'd say 32 is the sweet spot right now.
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Welcome to the hellscape that is the Canadian PC price market, and why manufacturers need to reign it in (and I lived in the US until 2 years ago). The prices are ludacris in the US and out of reach for much of the population elsewhere. I'll have to keep my eyes out for the next one, I plan on finally doing a new build this year, despite all the above-mentioned problems, and would love to get another opinion.
Pointing out how much of an unneeded waste of money AIOs really are, purging one build at the time... doing a saint's work there Paul...
you can skip all of that and just buy a 7900XTX and not have to compromise the rest of the build.
But, the problem if you upgrade to a higher Intel SKU, you're gonna have to use a watercooler and that will factor into the budget, so just upgrading to an i7 from an i5 is not that easy nowadays.
Speaking for myself only asrock mother boards have worked out better for than any other brand iv used
Yeah and they often have great deals on their boards. I got their Z690 PG Velocita (launched at over $400 USD) for less than $200 a few months ago!
whatever happened to pcpartpicker's youtube channel? i used to love watching their build videos but they just stopped years ago
Asus has the 4090 tuf 1599
Woot!
LOL I'm ex-console so I play on my tv, I render at 1440p and let the tv upscale to 4k and VSync to 60FPS but mostly play older titles and singleplayer. Looks and plays smoother than console on most games I play and lets me get my feet wet with KBM.
AsRock B550M PRO4
Ryzen 5 5500
Gigabyte Windforce OC RTX 2060 12GB
16gb (2x8) DDR4 3200 T-Force Vulcan Z
Corsaire CX550 80+ Bronze
Lian Li LANCOOL 205M (Mesh front)
No WiFi in a motherboard is a good option. The motherboard is actually a future proof because it will be easy to add WiFi 7 or WiFi 8 in future. But make sure your MB has at least 3 m.2 slots. Got it?
Building a new pc on an already dead Intel platform with high-end CPUs that melt themselves is literally insane 😳
Paul, I'm not sure if this is the place to ask this question, but...
Would you be able to help those of us troubleshoot Windows Security App not opening on Windows 11? I recently upgraded from Windows 10 and since then, I have not been able to turn on my firewall or open the Windows Security App without it closing out.
If i was buying a NEW motherboard in 2024 and Wi-Fi is important I would definitely favor Wi-Fi 6/Wi-Fi 7 (AX/BE)
I have an GT 640 and would like to upgrade. $100 any ideas?
You can find used RX 580s for less than $100 (at least in the US). It's much better than the GT 640 and will probably work well with the monitor you already have (can't imagine it's that strong since you're coming from an old and weak card).
Video editing should not go with F SKUs. Quicksync is too valuable to give up.
I was just going to say this, it's not worth giving for a really small savings. I have a 12700k, a 13700k, a 13900k, and a 12900kf, I move them around, and I am always limited on use cases for the 12900kf
these are luxury probs - wait for a year for the best upgrade if you can
And now all the builds from The Dark Times come home to roost, when there were shortages of everything, everything was too expensive, and people ended up with builds that were not ideal *at the time* and games have only gotten more demanding.
No point changing mobo to similar mobo with ddr5. Just get faster ddr4 with more capacity ram sticks.
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“You can run two
Monitors off your graphics card, that’s fine…” umm unless you are using an AMD card my man😂
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Thank you for finally discussing components using a currency OTHER THAN US. Hey Americans, now it's your turn to go look up the difference 🤪
My car costs less than that pc 😂
Dell Optiplex or ban 😂😂😂
Unless you're looking to build a ddr5-capable system, you're better off getting used parts from eBay. Also, it's funny that Gigabyte has always made excellent mobos but still can't get over the exploding PSU scandal.
To be fair, their mobos also had a ton of issues last year or the year before with security vulnerabilities and installing software without permission. Honestly, they've had quite a bit of drama in the last year lol
@@Zxanonblade The entire am5 platform had a lot of growing pains, but Ga seemed to fix those issues quicker than most.
Can we rally for a month of no 4090 crap? It's $2000 and the realistic amongst us are looking for realistic parts 😂
Its real for people like me that need the horse power in rendering and 24gb vram is good long term. Looking at all the other cards for years i have finnaly realized top end nvidia is what i need for business and some gaming. Rest is build to suck wich is dam shame. No more 1080s. 😢6
SCREW 1440! 4K OR NO WAY!
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Who noticed the Arabic text and paused to read it 😅?
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Every MoBo that's ever died on me (3 in ~15 years) has been ASRock. Definitely leaves a bad taste in your wallet.
Its been so long since any youtuber gave a serious pc build. (no sponsored BS doesn't count) Linus/jay/Kyle and Paul used to give great advice on true gaming pc`s Now its just fluff when no new stuff is released to pad there content list.