VW Transporter T5 T6 Barn Door to Tailgate Conversion
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- Опубліковано 15 вер 2024
- VW Transporter T5 T6 Barn Door to Tailgate Conversion
A short guide to the conversion process and the order in which I did things.
If you embark on this you are doing so at your own risk.
Brilliant! and nicely engineered sir!
Blimey, the wiring bit has put me off doing mine! Great vid though 👍🏻
Sci-fi spaceship launch soundtrack. Love it.
Tailgate really does looks good but unless its a push button to open and close il just need to keep my barn doors. Mine is a 2011 white t5.1. Not sure if I could get that for these though.
Soooooo cooool!!!! Nice Job👌💪👍👍👍👏
Finally!!!! Thank you so much
hi the two cables that come from the bcm where do they go on the tailgate is it to the plunger and handle button?
Mine doesn't have a plunger, just a handle, no key either. Which was a match for the age of my van. They differ depending on age
Absolutely awesome job !!! You fancy taking on job and doing mine 😉
Seriously I agonised over this for ages but actually removing and replacing the doors only took a few hours. The wiring was daunting, but only the central locking was hard to work out what to do, mainly because my loom had been cut.
Honestly you made it look so easy! I so badly want to do it to mine just don't have the goons to do it lol how did you know what to get ?
I googled loads and made myself an excel sheet and tried to plan it out to be totally prepared, the video just shows it going to plan. I got lucky with the door, lights, panels and bumper. Had to buy hinges and strut kit separately. It helped that I plan, fairly patient and I'm reasonably comfortable hitting my van with a lump hammer when needed.
My worry about central locking, I was happy enough to risk thr door being locked shut and needing a cable release inside the van, in the end I didn't need to worry.
good afternoon, can you please tell me if the rear door is suitable from T6 to T5?
I haven't tried it, so I can only guess. It looks to have the same overall area and the body of van doesn't seem to be any different. I'd guess it would fit. Assume would need lights and bumper still.
Hi Mark, helpful video thanks for posting. Did you have to do much aligning or adjustment of the door, hinges, guides etc to get the door to close smoothly? My tailgate needs a real hard slam to get it shut properly which can’t be right.
I had a few goes at getting it aligned and to be fair I need to just adjust it again slightly. I used spacers to hold the weight up, then tightened up when shut. The lock plate seemed to be ok on first try, I just aligned it with the hinge
@@TheKingsofFrogIsland so you can do the tightening and adjusting of the hinges with the door shut? And shim the door around the edges so it’s equal. That would be really good...I guess the guides and bump stops are then adjusted afterwards.
On another note...are you the same Kings that recorded “welcome to the void”??? what a fantastic track...honestly is one of my favourites!
@@Tattmemore I don't have tr bump stops in, but I just closed the door with shims in gave it a niludge to align it and tightened up the bolts. I did it a couple of times and want to do it again as still not 100pc. But its easy enough to do with the gas struts off.
And yes, I replied from the wrong account, we are still making music but get distracted with vans!
hello, where will I buy conversions for the clap ???? Please help
hi! i need to do the opposite. Do you still have the components that you took out?
Sorry no, sold at the time
Did you use the tailgate guide blocks , there's no mounting holes on my T5 body ?
At the top there were some holes where the hinges fit and I used some big thick washer type things. The other end where the gas struts fit to the van I bought some special adapter plates on ebay. It's a fair while ago now and beyond what's in the video I'm struggling to remember. I think thr hinge part could do with being a bit more solid, but it's not actually caused any issues.
No they're below the lights .
The tailgate has two blocks that locate into them
@@garyspence8383 don't think I have them. I've never compared to factory fitted. All seems to align without any issues. I guess the lock in the middle bottom helps.
@TheKingsofFrogIsland cheers mate 👍
Nice work. Trying to copy your wiring on a 2013 t5.1. Tailgate is on. Have the 2 wires to the bcm. I have the wire from pin 15 to earth on the van side and cut on the Tailgate loom. Pins 13 and 14 to the bcm from the Tailgate loom. Pin 13 to earth on the van side connector. Do I cut the wire from pin 14 van side connector ?.
I would greatly appreciate your help in this.
Regards Patrick
I am struggling to remember what I did. Originally I was going to use a relay but ended up only having 2 wires to the bcm. On my notes it says bcm pin 23 to door handle. And bcm pin 10 to door lock. It seemed mega simple from memory, literally 2 wires to bcm and the coding and my handle worked with central locking etc. For the life of me I can't remember cutting into any wires for this.
@@TheKingsofFrogIsland thanks anyway. The routing of 2 wires to the bcm was simple enough , it's what to do with the 17 pin connector and the wiring to and from it.
👋 u changed the bumper only to match color or dosent fit to tailgate ? Thx
The bumper came with the tailgate so I used it. From what I read I think thr existing bumper just about works OK. I can't be sure though as I didn't try myself.
Hi mate im currently doing one for a customer how do you move the inner captive catch over to the center thanks
I hit one of the existing catch retainers with a lump hammer and big screwdriver until dislodged, then with the bumper etc off I managed to get it to come out through one of the holes.
It wasn't as bad as it sounds.
Then I tied string to it, pulled it back through to the centre and managed to get one side attached with the retainer and a bolt, then undid the string and fitted the other side. I was mega lucky, it worked first time and threaded easily.
Definitely doable though, it worried me for a while but by then I'd committed
Give me barn doors anyday, so much better
Hi mark I have a t6 and done the Convertion , the only thing I am struggling with is we’re to connect the 2 wires you ran from the BCM as the tail gate wiring is all white. Can you help .
I found mine by following the wires back from the tailgate handle. I put a tester on the wires at the handle end and then tested all loom till I found them. I did the same for the break light and number plate. From memory there was a common ground.
@@TheKingsofFrogIsland thanks for the quick reply will try that next week ,does it matter what way round the 2 wires go on the handle wires from the BCM .
Yes I think it does as one is the lock and the other is the release.
fair play done well there 👌 2 question where did you get all the kit from to do the conversion and the wiring why was it changed etc was it for the central locking ??
Hi, I got the tailgate, lights, panels and bumper on ebay, all second hand.
The wiring had to be changed as the central locking for this age door doesn't have a key and works differently to thr barn doors, even though same age. It was much simpler than I expected.
Hi Mate have you put cupboards in your van that i can look at cheers Dave
Yes, I made them to measure a few years ago. Anything you wanted to see specifically? I can film them and upload
Asking for a friend.. The mechanic at his sisters garage (vastec vw specialist) is quoting 2 days.. We think that's accesive.. Any thoughts?
I did mine over a weekend. Actually removing doors and hanging new door didn't take too long. The bits that took time were the wiring, research, running cables, faffing with the lock and the bcm and coding. 2 days conservatively, possible in a day. If I was making promises I had to deliver on I'd say give me a couple of days.
Hi mate I have bought the tailgate same van as urs but the wiring part Is confusing the hell out of me scaring me off doing it any tips and advice would be much appreciated ie how u sort out the computer side of it do u have to go to a vdub specialist? Cheers
Mine had had the loom cut on the tailgate which made it harder than it needed to be. I approached it just using a tester, worked out the earth, then the number plates, brake lights, no heated screen or wiper for me. For the lock I traced the wires from the handle by testing both ends of my loom to work out which was which. I then ran a long 2 core cable from under the dash, under the mat, round the step and back into the nearside wheel arch. I bought the correct pins from Farnell and pushed them into the bcm. It was very daunting. I used a friend's vcds to code it. There is an alternative way, you connect a relay to the handle in the door and then the normal locking works by connecting the wires to that, google t5 tailgate relay lock, or something like that. I went down the this route initially but changed my mind as I want my van to be as close to stock as possible.
Apologies if not clear, it was a while ago. If I did it again I'd still use bcm and coding, in the end it didn't take long and worked first time. You can connect wires, run cable etc then find an enthusiast with vcds to help. It was only a couple k characters in the settings that needed to be changed.
For fitting I figured...fit door, sort our number plates and brakes, good to go, can open it from inside by pulling leaver, sort lock and central locking later. Haha
Thanks for the reply very appreciated and I feal like I should now be able to make the next step and start this project wish me luck
The music is a bit much!
can't you just rewire the cables that went to the barn door lock ?
It's a while ago and I remember considering it, I got as far as buying a relay switch that would enable it to work. But in the end ran two wires through the van and it turned out to be easier than expected. My tailgate only has a handle and no key hole.
@@TheKingsofFrogIsland thanks for reply
Hello from Germany
I nearly got every parts to start the project.. the only thing is that I’m looking to buy the conversion kit, bolts, plates and so on
I have found a few sites in Britain, I guess you bought it also there, but a few scam sites were also recommended, could you send me the site or tell me the name, so im 100% sure to get the right parts with the quality standard you used.
Would be lovely!
Best greetings from Germany!
One of these is the conversion mounting. The other is for where the hinges attach at the top
@@TheKingsofFrogIsland exactly and I’m searching for both, do you have a link or something else?
The attachment on the top, I could probably buy original ones, but the conversion mounting would be interesting!
That's weird, I pasted links to both in. Wonder if moderated. I'll try again
Online-motor-store-uk
And
L G engineering
@@TheKingsofFrogIsland thanks!
Couldn’t find a link down below
What sort of price we looking at buying all these parts from ebay??
The conversion plates and gas struts were about 90 delivered. Get a door with hinges as to buy separately they cost about 120 with the inner plates. I was very lucky with the door itself as it came with bumper, lights and corner panels. Prices for doors varies wildly from 280 to over 1500
@@markkarlbuteux5428 thanks for the quick reply, might start collecting the bits to do it, I've seen a few rear tailgates but they always seem to be a different colour to my van.
Can you do mine please.?
Is there a benefit to not having barn doors
Not especially. When I first wanted a T5 I looked for one with air con, mfsw, cruise, tailgate and not white. It saved me a lot initially having a plumbers van with none of those things. Retro fitting them all staggered the cost. The main reason for the door was aesthetics, I like the look af the bike rack high up vs bumper mounted. I already had the high up bike rack and managed to get it over barn doors but was a pain as couldn't access van. Changing it over works better. Barn doors are more practical in tight spots, but I was chuffed to bits when the tailgate was done and working.
@@markkarlbuteux5428 aw OK I've got barn door also didn't go for blue. Was liking reading my mind picky u wanted it I'm the same at first I thought maybe you want to put an awning on the back but the bike rack idea does look better now you mention it.
Hi mate. Do you not have to reinforce the hinge area for the tailgate hinges?
I used small brackets that came with thr hinges. I'd read other peoples concern around it, it does seem like a weak point there, but loads have done it and I've yet to read of any disasters.
Hi Mark, great video, great job.
You mounted a T6 tailgate to a T5 car, right?
How are the hinges mounted on the carrosserie? Just screwed or do I have to weld a bracket on the sheet metal?
It was a t5.1 tailgate to a t5.1 probably same age is my guess.
No welding, the hinges have washer / spacers between the van and hinge. Personally I think it could do withe strengthening, but I'm not the first to fit it directly and I've yet to read any horror stories. I think its possible to fit t6 to t5, but can't be certain.
That crappy music put me off from the get go.☹️
Not detailed enough and there ALOT more involved in doing the conversion.