I purchased my 12.9 Magic Keyboard from Best Buy for 199.99 New! But I'll tell you something. I would of still bought it for the full price. That's how awesome it it. Amazing quality!
I bet the licensing for the 3 pin connector is 150 dollars. Strictly to discourage people making their own keyboard like Apples. They want that price to keep it competitive with their laptops. They don’t want to cannibalize their own products so if you want to get around buying a laptop by getting a iPad and keyboard, it will cost you roughly the same. They make the same amount of money either way. That’s why the iPad AND its accessories are so expensive.
Deciding if I want to buy a new Magic Keyboard (my C is giving me real issues with fast touch typing, KB is probably 3. Years old). I must be able to use in lap and know Logitech combo just isn't feasible for that--so looking around,more 3rd party than there was 3 years ago.
🐬 Nice review but I think I’ll stick with my Magic Keyboard. Since I updated to iPadOS 16 I use external monitor a lot and it’s nice to have the power charging ability on the left side of the Magic Keyboard while connected to the monitor with my USB-C/thunderbolt
Resizing windows on the iPadOS beta is janky right now, so not sure if that's where you're running into problems with the keyboard. Anyway, you should be doing reviews on properly configured software, not beta software. Thanks.
Does the fact that it’s Bluetooth and not 3 pin affect the latency? Is there any difference in the delay from when you click the key to when it appears on screen?
I use my 12.9 inch iPad in portrait orientatiion about 50 percent of the time - primarily to read news such as the print editions of the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post, but also for word processing (think similar to the Apple Potrait mode monitor and Radius monitors of the 1990’s - you can see the whole 8 x 11 page at once). “Print” editions of newspapers display better in portrait mode, and this orientation better mimics the organized layout of a physical newspaper. The Apple Magic Keyboard does not support portrait mode - the iPad will stiick to the case but the keyboard doesn’t work because the three point physical connector on the case doesn’t mate with the iPad. So that leaves cases with bluetooth connectivity as the only option it you need portrait mode and a keyboard.
I’m actually experiencing keyboard nightmare these days. Trying to get several different environments to feel somewhat the same from an input perspective. Mac laptop, Mac desktop (docked), Windows laptop, Windows docked and the iPad with a keyboard. It’s pretty insane one of the best input devices is the iPad magic keyboard. Both the trackpad and the keyboard are pretty much perfection. On my Macbook pro 16 laptop, the keyboard is sort of sucky to me but might be better if I only used it but I’m always bouncing around. The laptop trackpad is awesome! The Magic Trackpad that I use when I am docked works very well with the Mac but it doesn’t work worth a crap in Windows without loading some open source drivers which I can’t do at all at work. I use the MX keys at home when docked and at least it works with all platforms but it is very average from the key travel and placement department. I have always been disappointed with that purchase compared to what other people said about it. I have a MX mouse which works fine. I’m short, finding a consistent user experience with all of these different keyboards is very frustrating and I wish I could just find one keyboard to rule them all. I wish the keyboard Gods would require all keyboards to at least be laid out the same.
Definitely gonna grab this, you're totally right on how expensive Apple products can be, I've already purchased the Apple pencil alternative u spoke on and it works great and I had been looking for a keyboard for my iPad pro and this video came just in time.. Much appreciated 👍!!
Nice video and congrats on being on 9to5Mac. When I use my iPad Pro 12.9” with the Apple Magic Keyboard and pull the screen fully forward, it touches the keyboard right above the number keys. Does this unit cover up the function keys when used when pulled fully forward? I often use it like this when on my lap, sitting in a chair. It places the screen very close to my hands so I can touch the screen easily. One other note, I’ve seen their Magic Keyboard on sale for as low as $199, which makes it much more competitive.
Fernando, great job as I would really like a "White" Magic Keyboard (I have the Black from 2018). Unfortunately, they do not have White and they are now sold out of the Black one. I would soooo like to see the capability of using the Stream Deck on the iPad Pro for Productivity, but as of now it is only Mac and Windows. They may listen to you as you and 9to5 Mac as you have some pull in this area. Please look into this as I would really like to go iPad only in 2024 with an M3 iPad Pro. All the best and Merry Christmas!
Is that iPadOS 16 on the iPad? Some of the "wonkyness" you are talking about could be from the beta. I am using the Logitech Combo Touch on my M1 iPad Pro and I love it, but I am finding that iPadOS 16 beta still has some bugs in it and is causing some "wonkyness" with the LCT.
As much as love Apple stuff, a key board that is the same price as an entry level iPad is ridiculous, zero reason this should cost anywhere near that price
Any third party keyboard, for me, would have to support the three-pin Smart Connector. The convenience of it is instant response. I’ve used a couple of bluetooth iPad keyboards and they all suffer from the same problem… initial connection after the iPad has gone to sleep. It takes five or six key hits to get the iPad to wake up, and that gets frustrating. With the Smart Connector, the iPad wakes up immediately. No Smart Connector, no keyboard for me.
It’s the opposite for me. My Bluetooth keyboards work wonderfully. I just got the combo touch and it hasn’t even been a full day but I’ve got connectivity issues left and right. When it works, it works beautifully. But having to troubleshoot after every problem isn’t worth it. I’ll be returning it and just sticking to my Bluetooth keyboards.
@@moren2607 I have a small collection of Bluetooth/wired keyboards that I use in rotation, but the one I would recommend is the Keychron K3. It’s a mechanical keyboard, but it’s lightweight and has a slim profile so it’s more portable than standard mechanical keyboards. It’s Windows/Mac/Android friendly so you can use it with a variety of devices.
I’ve got an iPad Air 4 and I just use my iPad for watching UA-cam gaming and occasionally drawing should I skip out on this I even got a budget pencil as well
Superb video! Excellent! I have subscribed. Hoping that the Dracool Magic Keyboard I have just ordered will be as close to 85-95% as good as the genuine Apple article as your tested model was!
We have your ESR Bluetooth Model 6B003 and it will no longer pair with iPad Air 5th generation 10.5. The iPad. recognizes the keypad it just doesn’t work.
If this is available in lilac and also in 6th gen 9.7 would be great. This one is less than ($109 Au) a quarter of the apple price ($580 Au) and has much better functionality, including other devices, plus it's own battery.
Great review. I really love the Smart Connector for the iPad. I’ve had a Logitech keyboard with Smart Connector for years and it works like a peach. But when I have a Bluetooth keyboard connected to my 9.7” iPad Pro, works perfectly well. I’ll be getting a new IPad Pro this year and I think this will be my keyboard for it! Thank you for making us aware of it!
Hi man, great and informative content as always !! Please can you make a demonstration of ipados 16 high refresh rate monitors support ( 120hz or higher)
Hi, and thank you for your vid. What do you suggest for an alternative for a Smart KB for an iPad 10.2? Unfortunately seems your suggested KB isn't compatible with "Normal" iPad (no Pro or Air)
dude i am searching for a normal student keyboard for about an hour now, and no one includes type tests??? That's the main point isn't it? I dont want my entire class to hear when i start typing
Thanks for a great review; unfortunately your link shows "currently unavailable". If anyone has experience with the new (May 2022 release) "Typecase Edge" one - looks a LOT like this one, I'd be very interested to learn about hands-on with trackpad and typing keys.
I want this keyboard, but would rip off the magnetic part. I’ve been looking for a bluetooth keyboard with trackpad that I can use on my lap so I can put the iPad at eye level, for ergonomics and video conferencing, and the keyboard and trackpad on my lap. There is no other good keyboard / trackpad combo that I can put on my lap that I’ve found.
Did you get any feedback on this? I'm curious to know if these keyboards offer fn f1 keys as well? Or if we're able to remap the shortcut keys to f keys using fn key
Has anyone found one of these iPad keyboard cases that can work with a MacBook universal control? Like if I want to click or type from the iPad case on my MacBook it doesn’t work.
Not recommended. The trackpad is noisy when clicked on. Typing is not good with crammed type keys. Also typing, lots of typing errors, even when type with right keys. Trackpad is too small.
I’m a Logitech Slim Folio Pro user from 2018 for the iPad Pro. Do you remember those? how many are stil working now? Mine as many others stopped working 1-2 years after we bought them, and all because Apple basically made them incompatible via software. Now try convince me buying another third party keyboard for my iPad. Worst of all you guys reviewed and endorsed that crap years ago when you made a review on it. PEOPLE DON’T BUY OFF BRAND ACCESSORIES FOR YOR IPAD, ESPECIALLY KEYBOARDS and don’t listen to everything these reviewers say. I bet anything it will end up the same, or else why do you think the original keyboard costs more than 300 freaking $, these manufacturers will go to any lengths to make you buy their expensive toys to make their expensive crap complete. THINK!
I had a 10th gen iPad ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxUGaHtKW8MwCql2fPyIm9-ftTqSMzKFFA . Felt it getting pretty slow at times even after doing a reset. So I am using that as a tablet for my 5 year old son and got this 9th gen version. MUCH faster, a little slimmer, smaller bezels, all around a leap forward. Plus, for the price that’s about $130-$150 cheaper than a current new model this is a nice deal. I look forward to the M-series CPUs coming into iPads which will really help future proof these tablets better but these latest CPUs are pretty strong and should do better to last several years with no compromises.
iPad pro is a stupid device thanks to iPadOS. The apps are not fully functioning and the productivity is rubbish. This is an example.of how to convert a Ferrari into a Fiat, 9nly by stupid OS
Congratulations Fernando for being part of 9to5Mac team!
I’m surprised Apple didn’t patent the magic keyboard design look. Great there is finally a more affordable elevated iPad keyboard.
My thoughts exactly
dont give them ideas
Whats the price of this ?
Even if they did, it would still be on AliExpress
Don’t think they could patent a look as common as a keyboard with a magnetic back, once it has to rely on standard BT connectivity. Thankfully!
ESR makes some really a good version and I like it a lot because the trackpad actually works as intended.
I purchased my 12.9 Magic Keyboard from Best Buy for 199.99 New! But I'll tell you something. I would of still bought it for the full price. That's how awesome it it. Amazing quality!
I bet the licensing for the 3 pin connector is 150 dollars. Strictly to discourage people making their own keyboard like Apples. They want that price to keep it competitive with their laptops. They don’t want to cannibalize their own products so if you want to get around buying a laptop by getting a iPad and keyboard, it will cost you roughly the same. They make the same amount of money either way. That’s why the iPad AND its accessories are so expensive.
I agree. I bet it’s $150 and apple has a crazy approval process
Deciding if I want to buy a new Magic Keyboard (my C is giving me real issues with fast touch typing, KB is probably 3. Years old). I must be able to use in lap and know Logitech combo just isn't feasible for that--so looking around,more 3rd party than there was 3 years ago.
3:14 … and charge the iPad with the built-in USB-C port, freeing up the iPad’s port for connecting accessories while charging.
🐬 Nice review but I think I’ll stick with my Magic Keyboard. Since I updated to iPadOS 16 I use external monitor a lot and it’s nice to have the power charging ability on the left side of the Magic Keyboard while connected to the monitor with my USB-C/thunderbolt
Trackpad is not that important for the touch screen devices like iPad.
You might consider using a Bluetooth mouse.
Nice review, thanks!
Resizing windows on the iPadOS beta is janky right now, so not sure if that's where you're running into problems with the keyboard. Anyway, you should be doing reviews on properly configured software, not beta software. Thanks.
Does the fact that it’s Bluetooth and not 3 pin affect the latency? Is there any difference in the delay from when you click the key to when it appears on screen?
I use my 12.9 inch iPad in portrait orientatiion about 50 percent of the time - primarily to read news such as the print editions of the Wall Street Journal and the Washington Post, but also for word processing (think similar to the Apple Potrait mode monitor and Radius monitors of the 1990’s - you can see the whole 8 x 11 page at once). “Print” editions of newspapers display better in portrait mode, and this orientation better mimics the organized layout of a physical newspaper. The Apple Magic Keyboard does not support portrait mode - the iPad will stiick to the case but the keyboard doesn’t work because the three point physical connector on the case doesn’t mate with the iPad. So that leaves cases with bluetooth connectivity as the only option it you need portrait mode and a keyboard.
I’m actually experiencing keyboard nightmare these days. Trying to get several different environments to feel somewhat the same from an input perspective. Mac laptop, Mac desktop (docked), Windows laptop, Windows docked and the iPad with a keyboard.
It’s pretty insane one of the best input devices is the iPad magic keyboard. Both the trackpad and the keyboard are pretty much perfection.
On my Macbook pro 16 laptop, the keyboard is sort of sucky to me but might be better if I only used it but I’m always bouncing around. The laptop trackpad is awesome!
The Magic Trackpad that I use when I am docked works very well with the Mac but it doesn’t work worth a crap in Windows without loading some open source drivers which I can’t do at all at work. I use the MX keys at home when docked and at least it works with all platforms but it is very average from the key travel and placement department. I have always been disappointed with that purchase compared to what other people said about it. I have a MX mouse which works fine.
I’m short, finding a consistent user experience with all of these different keyboards is very frustrating and I wish I could just find one keyboard to rule them all. I wish the keyboard Gods would require all keyboards to at least be laid out the same.
Question. Is this compatible with the iPad Air 5th gen?
How is the trackpad for scrolling web pages? Does it scroll smoothly with inertia like an Apple or Logitech product?
Great question. It works well for scrolling with inertia!
Definitely gonna grab this, you're totally right on how expensive Apple products can be, I've already purchased the Apple pencil alternative u spoke on and it works great and I had been looking for a keyboard for my iPad pro and this video came just in time.. Much appreciated 👍!!
let me know what you think of the trackpad experience when you get it!
What was that Apple Pencil alternative again? I am interested to know. Thanks!
How is the keyboard after all these months? Do you recommend it?
Hi friend, how is it? Good for daily life?
How hard to wake up the ipad after long idling?
I wish I saw this a couple days ago. I just bought a used Magic Keyboard, although I do love the Magic Keyboard I like this one too with function
Nice video and congrats on being on 9to5Mac. When I use my iPad Pro 12.9” with the Apple Magic Keyboard and pull the screen fully forward, it touches the keyboard right above the number keys. Does this unit cover up the function keys when used when pulled fully forward? I often use it like this when on my lap, sitting in a chair. It places the screen very close to my hands so I can touch the screen easily. One other note, I’ve seen their Magic Keyboard on sale for as low as $199, which makes it much more competitive.
Fernando, great job as I would really like a "White" Magic Keyboard (I have the Black from 2018). Unfortunately, they do not have White and they are now sold out of the Black one. I would soooo like to see the capability of using the Stream Deck on the iPad Pro for Productivity, but as of now it is only Mac and Windows. They may listen to you as you and 9to5 Mac as you have some pull in this area. Please look into this as I would really like to go iPad only in 2024 with an M3 iPad Pro. All the best and Merry Christmas!
Is that iPadOS 16 on the iPad? Some of the "wonkyness" you are talking about could be from the beta. I am using the Logitech Combo Touch on my M1 iPad Pro and I love it, but I am finding that iPadOS 16 beta still has some bugs in it and is causing some "wonkyness" with the LCT.
I bought a keyboard and i do injoy the system!!!!
Where can I purchase this keyboard. Amazon no longer has it.
Thanks for your help.
As much as love Apple stuff, a key board that is the same price as an entry level iPad is ridiculous, zero reason this should cost anywhere near that price
Any third party keyboard, for me, would have to support the three-pin Smart Connector. The convenience of it is instant response. I’ve used a couple of bluetooth iPad keyboards and they all suffer from the same problem… initial connection after the iPad has gone to sleep. It takes five or six key hits to get the iPad to wake up, and that gets frustrating. With the Smart Connector, the iPad wakes up immediately. No Smart Connector, no keyboard for me.
agreed but the cheapest option right now is by logitech at $160. thats out of people's price range sometimes
It’s the opposite for me. My Bluetooth keyboards work wonderfully. I just got the combo touch and it hasn’t even been a full day but I’ve got connectivity issues left and right. When it works, it works beautifully. But having to troubleshoot after every problem isn’t worth it. I’ll be returning it and just sticking to my Bluetooth keyboards.
@@shortbutsweet hello! Can I ask what bluetooth keyboard you're using? Thanks
@@moren2607 I have a small collection of Bluetooth/wired keyboards that I use in rotation, but the one I would recommend is the Keychron K3. It’s a mechanical keyboard, but it’s lightweight and has a slim profile so it’s more portable than standard mechanical keyboards. It’s Windows/Mac/Android friendly so you can use it with a variety of devices.
@@shortbutsweet will look it up. Thanks a lot!
I’ve got an iPad Air 4 and I just use my iPad for watching UA-cam gaming and occasionally drawing should I skip out on this I even got a budget pencil as well
Superb video! Excellent! I have subscribed. Hoping that the Dracool Magic Keyboard I have just ordered will be as close to 85-95% as good as the genuine Apple article as your tested model was!
We have your ESR Bluetooth Model 6B003 and it will no longer pair with iPad Air 5th generation 10.5. The iPad.
recognizes the keypad it just doesn’t work.
If this is available in lilac and also in 6th gen 9.7 would be great.
This one is less than ($109 Au) a quarter of the apple price ($580 Au) and has much better functionality, including other devices, plus it's own battery.
Why is Fernando uploading to 9to5Mac now?
great video !
will this one be suitable with the new M4 ipad pro too, or will another version of the keyboard come out for that one ?
How's the viewing angle? Consider the additional function rows, isn't it harder to type below the screen now?
Logitech have a 12.9 iPad Pro keyboard with trackpad.
I don’t know if you will see this, but I was wondering what is the name of the editing software you used on the IPad.
Great review. I really love the Smart Connector for the iPad. I’ve had a Logitech keyboard with Smart Connector for years and it works like a peach. But when I have a Bluetooth keyboard connected to my 9.7” iPad Pro, works perfectly well.
I’ll be getting a new IPad Pro this year and I think this will be my keyboard for it! Thank you for making us aware of it!
Hi man, great and informative content as always !!
Please can you make a demonstration of ipados 16 high refresh rate monitors support ( 120hz or higher)
Wow great video breakdown! What a great find!
Hi, and thank you for your vid. What do you suggest for an alternative for a Smart KB for an iPad 10.2? Unfortunately seems your suggested KB isn't compatible with "Normal" iPad (no Pro or Air)
Wow, been waiting for an accessory like this
WE ALL HAVE.
This is a knockoff of the ESR Rebound Magnetic Keyboard & Trackpad which is what I have, and it works flawlessly.
it might be a dumb question but can this case be used in Android? Not like the magnets and stuff but keyboard itself
I've seen reports that the hinge cracks easily due to the material.
I am trying to find the description boxhelp😢😢😢
dude i am searching for a normal student keyboard for about an hour now, and no one includes type tests??? That's the main point isn't it? I dont want my entire class to hear when i start typing
Quick question. Is it attachable to the Ipad Air 4?
Does it have an Emoji button like Apple's keyboard?
CAD$ 350 on Amazon Canada - not sure why it's so much more expensive in Canada
Thanks for a great review; unfortunately your link shows "currently unavailable". If anyone has experience with the new (May 2022 release) "Typecase Edge" one - looks a LOT like this one, I'd be very interested to learn about hands-on with trackpad and typing keys.
Great video. Very informative.
I want this keyboard, but would rip off the magnetic part. I’ve been looking for a bluetooth keyboard with trackpad that I can use on my lap so I can put the iPad at eye level, for ergonomics and video conferencing, and the keyboard and trackpad on my lap. There is no other good keyboard / trackpad combo that I can put on my lap that I’ve found.
Can u try if the ipad 9th gen will stick on that magic keyboard?
Can you disable the trackpad?
Where do you put the pencil when you are traveling?
Would this work with a magnetic iPad case?
The magic keyboard costs almost as much as the base model iPad
GREAT REVIEW!!!!
🐬 I would like to see one of these for the iPad Mini
Full-size Left & Right Arrow keys?!?!?! Blaspheme!!!
Is it as good as the ESR Rebound keyboard case?
Fernando have you tried Typecase Magic Style keyboard of Edge? I am curious your opinion since it has iPadOS shortcut,too
Did you get any feedback on this? I'm curious to know if these keyboards offer fn f1 keys as well? Or if we're able to remap the shortcut keys to f keys using fn key
Will the Bluetooth drain your iPad?
Has anyone found one of these iPad keyboard cases that can work with a MacBook universal control? Like if I want to click or type from the iPad case on my MacBook it doesn’t work.
How about somebody coming up using the three pin connector for power? It should be doable even if apple doesn’t allow it! 🐬
Does this case fold into tablet mode?
The tech should not be hidden from the user if they choose another company to do business with
Surely it’s weight is a fact, not your opinion?
Is it better than esr rebound?
My gaming laptop cost $700. And can play any game you throw at it. Don’t buy all this if you need a laptop.
Not recommended. The trackpad is noisy when clicked on. Typing is not good with crammed type keys. Also typing, lots of typing errors, even when type with right keys. Trackpad is too small.
Does this keyboard work with the iPad Air 5, someone respond and let me know :)
🐬great job!
Bluetooth…👎 I‘ll stick with my Logitech Combo….
Good call!
@@cameraman655 same. My Logitech combo touch is gold, a fraction of Apple’s price and offers better protection all around.
I’m a Logitech Slim Folio Pro user from 2018 for the iPad Pro. Do you remember those? how many are stil working now?
Mine as many others stopped working 1-2 years after we bought them, and all because Apple basically made them incompatible via software.
Now try convince me buying another third party keyboard for my iPad. Worst of all you guys reviewed and endorsed that crap years ago when you made a review on it. PEOPLE DON’T BUY OFF BRAND ACCESSORIES FOR YOR IPAD, ESPECIALLY KEYBOARDS and don’t listen to everything these reviewers say. I bet anything it will end up the same, or else why do you think the original keyboard costs more than 300 freaking $, these manufacturers will go to any lengths to make you buy their expensive toys to make their expensive crap complete. THINK!
Does It work with Stage Manager?
yes it does!
Bluetooth. Not worth it
Would much rather use something that uses the magic connectors
Same here. But hard to argue that price
It’s a great review and nice that there are great alternatives out there, but this guy man, he talks so fast..
i'll slow down a bit moving forward. thanks for watching!
@@9to5Mac Really appreciate it. Have a great day !
But a macbook air!!
You missed that the Magic 🖱2️⃣ is also a trackpad. Indeed the cheapest one
ITS BLUETOOTH MY DUDE NOT WORTH IT🤦🏽♂️
130
This one listed as $90 me finding one for 30 bucks.
Yes both were bought and tested
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Good video but “function key row” not “function row key” 😀
Haha thank you for that
I had a 10th gen iPad ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxUGaHtKW8MwCql2fPyIm9-ftTqSMzKFFA . Felt it getting pretty slow at times even after doing a reset. So I am using that as a tablet for my 5 year old son and got this 9th gen version. MUCH faster, a little slimmer, smaller bezels, all around a leap forward. Plus, for the price that’s about $130-$150 cheaper than a current new model this is a nice deal. I look forward to the M-series CPUs coming into iPads which will really help future proof these tablets better but these latest CPUs are pretty strong and should do better to last several years with no compromises.
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oh never mind, i see that all the reviews are very bad.
mad cute
If the Magic Keyboard is the most expensive accessory you’ve purchased, you don’t own a Tesla. 😂
Why so much face? Show me more product!
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Bla-bla-bla Waste 14 minutes to say 30 seconds thing. Dislike.
Ouch
iPad pro is a stupid device thanks to iPadOS. The apps are not fully functioning and the productivity is rubbish. This is an example.of how to convert a Ferrari into a Fiat, 9nly by stupid OS
Fernando 🫡😮💨
salute
there is a more affordable alternative - only $10 (Goojodoq keyboard)
Would keyboard work on iPad Air 2 or iPad Mini 4?
Will it work with an iPad Air 4?
As long as it’s the redesigned one then yes!
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If the Magic Keyboard is the most expensive accessory you’ve purchased, you don’t own a Tesla. 😂
Haha I guess I shoulda said for a computer tech item
@@9to5Mac 😂
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