As a kid I didn't find the drones very annoying. Just the idea of fighting onboard a spacecraft, and being able to see the earth and planets outside, was so mindblowing that I enjoyed every part of the game.
There's also the fact that duke3d was the first FPS I've played with realistic map designs. Doom was great but none of the maps made sense and they were just random corridors.
56:19 the launch code is actually given to a player: it is located at the captain's chair (room after generator room, in which player gets through the vent)
if i good remember there were at least 3 places where code was "written". DN and Doom burned hundred of hours of my life in 90`s. It`s good to remind some of the levels watching this video after 20+ years of break :)
the irritating thing is how the code is somehow inverted and red circles are "active" while green are "inactive" so it can be very irritating@@maciejjur1905
@@rottguyYT You can save your soul by saying 10 "Hail to the King"s in front of Duke's spinning holographic head. To be fair Duke 3D has a pretty washed out palette :P
This was great! You were looking at it from a perspective that understands what makes a game fun and what types of tricks or rules a game needs to enforce in order to not only keep the playing having fun, but keep the player from playing the game in an un-fun way (if that makes sense lol). It's always interesting to see classics broken down like this, even if I've been playing them for over 25 years lol
Great video. My request for next FPS ranking is Blood! The chase seen you see on the TV in level 2, is actually from a real live news broadcast. it's OJ Simpsons trying to escape in his Bronco. Also in Tier Drops you mentioned you don't know how it works, dropping down the pipe? They use the same trick in the first episode where you drop down the vent. Halfway through the drop it teleports you to a different part of the map. So there isn't actually 2 areas on top of each other, they are actually quite far apart. Press tab to watch your map as you drop down.
Lunatic fringe does not teleport you anywhere. In the Build engine you can use the room over room trick in a way, that a full circle is actually 720 degrees instead of 360, you just need to carefully place the sector walls just to just a bit different coordinate. This way you can make even spiral staircases, but if you don't change the height of the sectors, you get impossible spaces. Comparing the underground train with Blood's train is not fair. The underground trains are moving. In the train level of Blood the environment textures move, the train is build as any other levels. Area 51 button combination: 4 buttons = 16 combinations, not that hard. If the 8 buttons are working together, then 256 combinations. A bit more tedious, but bearable. Yes, I played this level a long time ago to remember the combination :D
In E4M1 in the Mission Impossible vault room, if you use the jetpack to hover above the floor you won't trigger the alarms and waves of enemies, mimicking how in the movie Tom Cruise had to dangle above the floor.
oh man! I love playing this game in Damn I'm Good, with the respawning enemies. This one is easily one of the hardest together with Derelict. The way to start with Pistol and trying to manage your explosive weapons so you can gib AS MUCH enemies as possible to prevent them from respawning. Such a challenge!
This game never gets old. I really wish they would make a remake (original levels + new ones in-between the original chapters).. only with the chalky Borderlands style graphics. Just like they did with Postal 4
Episode 4 secret "Area 51" didn't even need to solve the launch code. If y'pressed the "action" button where the exit symbol is hidden, Duke punched it thru the wall and the level would end. Don't believe me? Give it a try 😎
Faces of death can be accessed without cheats in the atomic edition - you have to use the exit on the abyss (outside the battlelord arena) which takes you to launch facility again. Then back to the abyss. Then go to the same exit and it then takes you to faces of death.
One thing I never realised about Launch Facility as a kid that I did as an adult is I'd assumed the explosion was build trying to make it look like the rocket was taking off, in it's own limited build engine way - only later did I recognise the rocket explodes, which I presume is a reference to the Challenger disaster.
In are 51 it isn't a rocket, it's the alien ship that was requisitioned by the US military in the movie Independence day, and the code is on the holographic screen with the teleporting assault commanders.
The two Assault Commanders are glitched tho: sometimes only 1 teleports out (or none at all) and if y'don't find out the wall behind the launch code panel is a fake an' y'can shoot thru it, y'gonna lose these 2 kills.
@@jcdenton6427 yeah speaking of which, i went into duke again recently and there is a new Zdoom alternative to eduke32, its called raze and it has some new and exciting options, namely you can now adjust the looking pitch to 100% so you can look straight down and up, and you can adjust the FOV to 120... something ive been wanting to do since the release of ion fury and blood on steam since those games where on build, really makes you wish they had that in the 20th anniversary of dn3d... but raze also supports this as well as the megaton edition so im thinking of doing a replay of all those levels and the new episode plus the expansions.
The "rocket" you can get in, in the Area 51 map, is an UFO. It's a reference to the movie Independence Day. Also, the launch codes are written in several portions of the map as seen at 55:55
Call me crazy but I thought Shadow Warrior had much better levels and consistently great levels. Would love a ranking for that game as well for us Wangheads(?). Great video!
Basically he was a slightly stronger Overlord, nothin' really fancy. Sure it was moar challenging without a mouse, but still not THAT powerful of a boss...
Very well put together. When playing Duke Nukem 3D myself I always got the impression Freeway, Area 51 and Launch Facility were the top tier secret levels as they for the most part had comparable quality to the main levels. Tier Drops, Lunatic Fringe and Spin Cycle all had unique features but were really a showcase of what the build engine could do.
I found the first level to be the most impressive. Having an FPS that actually takes place on earth blew my mind back in the day. Especially with the adult movie theater with toilets and an arcade and everything.
The secret in the Sewers in Red Light district has a hidden door that leads into the Mens Room, so it does loop to a regular part of the level. Also you missed the Secrete in LA Meltdown. The same building that you go in through the window to kill two aliens, there's another window along the outer ledge (it's the one the Atomic Health in front of it) that has another room with red lighting and more Ammo and Health pickups.
Stadium in N64 Duke Nukem was actually a large indoor stadium and felt way better than the PC one. Cycloid Emperor was even a giant voxel-based enemy. Your editing and presentation on this vid is super detailed though, well done.
The sewer DOES loop back into the bathroom behind the toilet. Secret door dude. Only opens from the toilet side after you destroy the toilet then try and open the wall.
The N64 version of the game made a lot of changes, some good and some bad, but one of the better ones was the Stadium level is actually finished out to look like a stadium, complete with tiered seating and an outer perimeter with concession stands, bathrooms etc. The Cycloid Emperor boss was also replaced on this version with a full 3D polygon version on himself that is ten times bigger and more intimidating looking but no less hard to beat, and kind of jars against the sprites used for all the other enemies. Curiously, while the Atomic Edition episode itself is not included, a few specific maps like Duke Burger, Area 52 and the Supermarket are ported faithfully as secret levels, and the Alien Enforcer enemy from the fourth episode is liberally parachuted into Lunar Apocalypse maps where it does kind of fit.
Fun fact: On Hollywood Holocaust, if you crouch behind the box in the room after the arcade where the pig cops blow through the wall, you don't take damage.
Got a recommendation for this vid, saw your name, and as an old ROTT kid immediately went to your channel to satisfy my needs. Only to find that you have 2 vids of 2 of my other beloved games from the era, but none about what your name suggests! I feel like this needs rectification.
It did, but y'had to hit'em on a VERY peculiar place (somewhere around the feet). You could also kill them while being tiny usin' RPG or Devastátor, and the tiny corpse remained on the floor like that lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Many disagreements with this rank but still nice video. I still think most of the best levels are on Episode 3 because it is Duke Nukem 3D at it's best, so much you use everything in your arsenal on it. Everything.
2:11 Well, actually we just followed the street. We did not know we could jump. We didn't know about RPG. It's a secret place after all. We were killing monster to the right, then to the left (through the window). We were lurking around this window, unable to get inside. Certainly there was something going in inside, but doors are shut. Unable to solve this mystery, we had to proceed down the street, so kill another monster, then finally discover alternative entry to the cinema. You play as very experienced player and missed all that struggle. We were eventually discovering security cameras, and those cameras were showing quite mysterious view from some apartment. Street to the outside of apartment looked familiar, raising some questions. And then we went to check our suspicions. And we discovered this SECRET PLACE. What a rewarding experience. But you run straight inside, knowing it's there. It's not how it's been for first time players. By the way, do you know what are steroids for? By using steroids you can jump into window to the opposite side of street and finish level in record time. There is an achievement in Anniversary Edition
You were right when you said that you were missing something in E4M11 AREA 51. The launch codes to exit the level are on the screen in the "hidden assault commander" room beside the teleporter, and one on either arm of the chair in the adjoining room. So easy to miss though, believe me. It took until I was an adult to notice it. Playing as a kid I was stuck as all hell. I ended up warping out to the next level because I couldn't figure it out back then.
The point of Tier Drops level is that the pipe things that connect parts of the level are actually invisible teleporters and you get teleported to other parts, while looking like they are stacked over each other.
Loved the idea of ranking levels like this. Plus, i think the way you break them down is pretty interesting. I hope you're able to keep making content like this. i'm sure this concept will work perfectly well with any classic or retro FPS of your interest (The Dooms and Quakes but also the Dusks and Ion Furys). I also agree that the proper way of covering these, is by order of appearance, just like you did. My only nitpick is that you should probably show the entire ranking at the very end of the video, but of course, is a small addition. Suscribed and definitely waiting for more!
Faces of death was a part of the Psx version of duke nukem 3d too , being a secret level that could be found in a ufo level from the exclusive psx levels. As for ranking duke nukem levels I've always changed my opinion on some of them , i enjoy most of them and it's hard to rank them. Grew up with the n64 version as my first one, the freeway level had a unique police station added to it. Hotel hell might be my favourite and i appreciated flood zone more throughout the years compared to early on, especially the n64 version. Playing against bots on n64, my favourite by far was the pirate themed level that used a section of the Babe Land mission.
4:55 that's not just any chase scene. It's the white Bronco chase when OJ Simpson was arrested for murder. Contemporaneously, pretty much anyone would have recognized that on the TV.
In Duke Burger level one thing i misunderstand is self-shrinking section. Out of all my playthroughs there wasn't any attempt where the glass will not be broken and thus i softlocked
I beat the entirety of DukeNukem64 (all enemies killed, of course) on the hardest difficulty without knowing you could shrink the non-boss Battlelords. I also don't think a lot of the what gets criticized in this game gets is all that big of a deal. I'm always enthralled when playing through the whole thing.
LA Rumble its okay I guess!!?? It is the besst level, such good atmosphere. I couldn’t agree more that Duke is always discussed in a cultural context and not often enough as a game. Keep up the good work
The gimmck of Warp Factor is that it's a (very abstract) version of the Starship Enterprise from Star Trek - look at the map from above and it's even shaped like the Enterprise, and a faithfully replicated Enterprise bridge from Star Trek The Next Generation can be found in a secret elevator.
Very interesting - really enjoyed it. Albeit Duke3D was never one of my favorites some of the maps are very well designed and absolute classics. I think your verdict was spot on for the most part.
As underdeveloped as the tram in Rabid Transit was, I *did* find it to be very memorable. I was in jr. high when I got the game, and my gamer friend and I thought it was neat as hell, and it felt very novel at the time. This was before Half Life's iconic train sequence. Anyway, great video, thanks.
I don't remember much from the 64 version, expect the different weapons and all levels having blue sky /daylight. The Level Rabit Transit was like a completely different level almost. Way more complex train-systems if i remember correctly.
The drones can die in a ditch - I always despised them for what a pain to deal with they are. Only good thing about them is exploiting their stupidity by having them explode as you hide behind a closed door. Not a very Duke-like tactic but you gotta ease the pain where you can.
I'm one of those freaks the like EP2 the most for whatever reason and felt like most of EP3 insanely tedious with the exception of Rabid Transit and Hotel Hell. Awesome video nonetheless! Would love to see one done for the expansion packs and/or Blood.
the second Episode gives the game so much depth. It's like a whole new game/world and the contrast is awesome. It's just everything feels so alien and there is this really huge overpowering force you got to fight. I think it was creative as hell.
Episodd 2 is under rated. I can understand how the city style levels became Duke 3D's bread and butter, but the distinctiveness of those space levels makes them stand out to me.
@@lancebaylis3169 What also helps for me is how space isn't reserved for a last episode like it is in many games and even if someone didn't finish the whole game, they have a better chance of experiencing its briliant atmosphere.
Episode 2 is VERY underrated. That was the very first FPS game that REALLY gave a feeling for a vivid space station and sci-fi stuff. They even made the vacuum of space kill the player, should he cheat himself behind the unbreakable glass.
Great video! I've immensely enjoyed your analysis of the various aspects of level design - map layout, verticality, build engine effects, explosions, puzzles, enemy variety, lighting, music, real life-like locations, secrets and easter eggs - that make this game so much fun! Love your level choices, including not hating on E2. Personally, however, I did enjoy Spin Cycle quite a bit because of the chaos the moving conveyor belt creates! I feel most of the secret levels were meant to be creative diversions anyway.
On the Hotel Hell secret level: The manhole visible near the exit encourages blowing up that tree. Being able to blow up manholes popped up a few times in earlier episodes. As for the waterfall, stuff hidden behind waterfalls is a game cliche, and its an alcove (unique).
In Duke Burger level, before you shrink yourself and go into the room full of enemies, there is a way to kill those enemies from a vent above the room, without having to go through shrinking. However, if you go that way you will not be able to do anything else yet as rest of things in that room get triggered by your actions.
Trust me, I am still going back-and-forth between whether to cover the levels in order of appearance or order of quality. I chose to copy MtPain27 instead of WatchMojo.
This is all very accurate. The past 2 years gave been on a retro FPS and worked my way through everything - Doom, Doom 2, the zillion wads, Quake and expansion packs, Shadow Warrior and expansion packs, Unreal and expansion packs, Heretic and all the expansion packs, and Duke nukem quickly lost my interest and frustrated me in exactly this way as outlined in this video. I thought it was just me, but your ranking system is exactly right. I lost total interest before I ever got tot he end of the lunar episode 2, and your points are 100% correct. the episodes worked and were so great and classic right up until he gets kidnapped and tried to be electrocuted and it all starts to drag just as you say. Thanks! I thought this was just me!
The Launch Code for the missiles in Area 51 is where the Yellow Key Card is @55:45 It is easy to miss because, besides the keycard, there's nothing else to draw your eye to it. Edit: Looking at the graphic for the code, it would've been easier to just place that on the bottom of the graphic, so when the player picks up the keycard, they can see the words launch code and see the sequence more easily at eye level.
No need to: there are MORE than enough ammo an' weapons on each an' every level - plus all the hidden areas! Also, HoloDuke _does_ work well on Octabrains.
Spin Circle is funny if you try to get all monsters to spawn (including the end-room) Battle Sentries before starting to fight them or just watch how they all blow each other up
Sorry I couldn't resist... Top Ten According to video: 1. E1L1 Hollywood Hollocaust 2. E2L8 Dark Side 3. E1L2 Red Light District 4. E2L7 Lunar Reactor 5. E3L8 Hotel Hell 6. E4L9 Critical Mass 7. E4L1 It's Impossible 8. E3L1 Raw Meat 9. E1L3 Death Row 10. E2L1. Spaceport
Now THAT's what I call a top-list! Detailed analysis for each level, yet not too long and boring, yet again with pros AND cons given equal thought. ... aaand now do this for all other 357 games people mention in the comments!! (scnr. ✌subbed.)
I was mostly on board until you got to episode 4, which I thought was garbage. Confusing level layouts, no ammo or health, just a bunch of themed levels of style over substance. They'd have all been in the 30s rank for me.
Something Lunar Reactor really suffers from is that its high miniboss quantity and limited supplies, especially pickups for weapons themselves (instead of just ammo). This might not matter in episode play, but it makes it very much a slog in single level runs. Edit: Doing more pistol only runs of your higher ranked levels, I think the shrink ray may be like the jetpack: It only trivializes levels it isn't found it. Those with it aren't based on fighting lots of otherwise tough enemies vulnerable to it (or are only found after them, like Rabid Transit), while those with it (at least in the open) lack such enemies in quantity.
I feel like i remember playing total meltdown on ps1 and faces of death level. There's a wall you can go through to exit. Its been many years since ive played
Excellent video, been looking for FPS level reviews for a while. This look is exhaustive enough to give a good idea of each level, but doesn't bog down on minutiae. Very good balance and engaging style. Certainly will be waiting for more of these. Feedback: Instead of straight ranking, for me scoring 1 - 5 or A - F would be easier to get a grip whether each level would be considered "good" or "bad". That would give a better idea how each game compares to FPS genre levels in general. Would it be practical to make a final ranking best to worst or vice versa, where you could see the final list in one place? In the style of credits roll for example? Since you asked: here's my take on your rankings. Agree: Later part of Lunar Apocalypse has the best levels of the game; Occupied Territory, Lunar Reactor and Dark Side. As you mentioned, the feel isn't very "Duke" in those levels, but they stand on their own. EP2 is like a trippy filling in a sandwich of "regular Duke" of EP1 and EP3. Disagree: Spin Cycle. It's my favorite level because of its supreme gimmickiness and is just plain fun to play on a whole different level. As a "proper" FPS level it must feel overtly silly, but I like that. Same goes for Lunatic Fringe and Tier Drops. They feel nothing like a real place, and that otherworldly atmosphere makes them appealing to me. Abyss, while tedious as a level, is very atmospheric as well and a good sendoff to EP2's weirdness. Maybe reviewing Half-Life 1 chapters next? They should be distinguishable enough to make them rankable.
Glad to hear I'm filling a gap in the FPS UA-cam scene - there are so few left! The ranking format (i.e. 1-5 or A-F vs order within the game itself) has been one of my biggest uncertainties in how to present my thoughts in my videos. My biggest reason for not including basic ratings out of 5 was to try and steer clear of comparing levels from different games against each other. I know I'll eventually hit some kind of inconsistency in my scoring from game to game and this feels like a way of avoiding that. Plus, I know I'm guilty of focusing in on review scores and the like when I consume content, and I know that without them I focus far more on what is actually being said. I'm hoping this means the comments focus more on what we each like and don't like, rather than a number or grading. Having said that, if enough people feel strongly about it, I'll always consider changing my approach. Love your "trippy sandwich" description of EP2. I think the game would be worse off without a palette cleanser between EP1 and EP3. As for what's next, Half-Life 1 is a game I'll probably steer clear of for a while. I've never had the adoration for it that so many do, and I don't think I'd be doing the game justice nor would I be creating a fun video to watch. It's a great game and raised the bar for FPS games but it's just never clicked with me. It would mean far fewer levels/chapters, but for now I'll focus on games I truly enjoy.
Hey, there you go, for the most part i share that sentiment about the levels and didn't really bother building a wall of text about it, so you just saved me and rottguy some time. To me, spin cycle was absolutely wonderfully fun and cool so i reacted like someone had just thrown an undeserved punch that i had to dodge when i saw it getting plopped at the bottom of the list. I think we can all agree though that the 1st level was as good as it could possibly be for the time.
After e1m1 I instantly skipped to Dark Side to see its rank because in my mind there's no way that level deserves anything less than the 1st place. I guess 2nd place will do as well but come on, that level is a full adventure on its own.
It's a super close call. The impact of Hollywood Holocaust being the first level and giving such a good first impression probably just swayed it. Arguably Dark Side could have used less backtracking but I prefer to focus on the view that both levels are both some of the best I've seen in 90s FPS.
I feel sad for E2M9 from the original Doom. I remember it terrified me as a child, but got able to understand the narrative hints after a while (years) that it was about making the monsters fight each other. Two rooms that tell a story and introduce an unusual combat strategy at the time. Light years better than a circular room that causes motion sickness. (Okay, the three-key room paranauê at the end was unnecessary, Sandy Petersen) Anyway. Great video! I think my list would have been similar, because I also really like Lunar Apocalypse. It gives Duke Nukem a The Thing-like atmosphere (and soundtrack. God, the soundtrack). It's kind of claustrophobic and depressing, while at the same time the atmosphere doesn't lose its comical side. If Duke Nukem Forever had done something in that nonsense style, that actually carries a weight, instead of giving the protagonist more anabolics, I think the franchise could have been much more interesting.
Damn, Taradino Cassatt guy has wildly different opinions than me on duke3d map rankings! Still, it's good to see ole duke3d still getting some screen time smack dab in the middle of 2023. Gonna check any other videos ya got, hopefully you got some on rise of the triad (ROTT), 'cause this modernized wolf3d clone needs some more lovin', despite having some of the most boring maps i ever begrudingly waddled through! Edit: nah you ain't got any, might wanna do a rott map rating if you're feeling particularly masochistic, i'll be certainly entertained, especially if you let that wonderful rott midi music blast with a good soundfont.
ROTT feels like a video I have to make at some point but by the time the remaster comes out there'll be so many levels to cover. It's going to be a mammoth task. The Shareware levels and new episode in the remaster will take the tally beyond this video which took me ages as it is. At least Duke 3D had interesting and memorable levels to cover - ROTT's second half (if I ever muster the strength to review each level) not so much. Luckily the soundtrack is a work of art.
@@rottguyYT Wasn't kidding when i said it's a masochistic task, no one in their right mind will bother to play the lame old rott levels, and even the newer rott levels are kinda wack, leaving only andrew hulshult's fantastic music and the cool old guns to carry the burden.
This FPS have by far the most interesting and fun levels design of any shooters that I’ve played. My favorites ones are from Levelord and Allen Blum, a lot of verticality in most of their levels. It’s hard to disagree with Hollywood Holocaust being #1, this is peak DN3D level design and probably the best 1st level of any game of this genre. And hard to disagree for spin cycle, being one of the worst idea ever made, it was obviously the last one. Even if some peoples like to take jab a Randy, I think he did more than a good job as a level designer in this game. Too bad that the shrinker completely f-up all the balance of the game, they should have ammo starve the player just like the magnum in older Resident Evil game, not more than a couple dozen munitions for a whole episode. Personally I think this game and Quake 1 are the peak of 90’s shooters. Outstanding musics, level design, enemies encounter, gameplay and atmosphere in both of those games. Quake might have better enemies and gameplay but DN3D have ridiculously good level design. Duke It Out in D.C. and Caribbean Life’s a Beach have some solid level design, I presume you’ve probably already try those if you like Duke Nukem. Nuclear Winter is the best pack if you want to play garbage Duke. Pro tips: - You can take steroids while you are small, it will make you grow in size instantly, useful for the 3-4 obligatory shrinker section and the alien that can shrink you. - Like someone said, you can use a jet pack to don’t trigger the alarm, but you can simply stay on the computer, since it’s the floor that trigger the alarm. As a big fan of this game, it was really fun to watch you talk about all those 40 levels. I highly agree with Dark Side and some other, I might disagree with some of your ranking, like L.A. Rumble, but I am certainly not here to tell you what you should like and shouldn’t like. That doesn’t change the fact that this whole video was highly interesting to watch and hearing your opinion. I’ll have to watch the RTCW ranking, another great FPS.
I've actually never played the expansion packs for Duke 3D. Heard mixed reviews except for Life's a Beach which I find hard to look past the aesthetic. Some day I'll have to try them. Great tip on the steroids - it seem so obvious now that you mention it!
My two cents on the expansions: 'Duke it out in DC' - has some high highs, and some VERY low lows. They did succeed very well at making very realistic depictions of real-life locations for the time, even when compared to other Duke3D levels, but in most cases the actual player experience of the level suffers pretty badly - they were certainly a bit too ambitious with some of these stages but its still worth a play if you love the game and can't get enough. 'Duke Caribbean Life's A Beach' - This one is pretty damn good. Solid level designs and some really funny gimmicks. Not much to say, it's just solid. 'Nuclear Winter' - Trash. Actually so bad, it has only seven stages - two of them are 'winter' reduxes of the first two levels of episode 1, and one is a boss stage. So that leaves us with only four real stages and they all suck. Loaded with repetitive scenery, cheap ambushes, bad design, and lame new enemies. Hard pass on this one.
If you haven't already, I recommend MtPain27. He has graded every Doom map released for retail as well as tons of mods. I'll steer clear of Doom mostly for this reason, honestly.
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As a kid I didn't find the drones very annoying. Just the idea of fighting onboard a spacecraft, and being able to see the earth and planets outside, was so mindblowing that I enjoyed every part of the game.
Maybe because explosion damage in game is so low.
From other hand i dont know many enemies such annoying as Mechsect from ion fury.
There's also the fact that duke3d was the first FPS I've played with realistic map designs. Doom was great but none of the maps made sense and they were just random corridors.
I thought they were scary cause i couldnt understand what they were supposed to be and they screamed at you.
@@dagainz6997 Doom 2 tried to simulate a city during levels 13-20, but still failed. We NEEDED Duke Nukem 3D to show how it's done.
The news on the screen is OJ Simpson from the police chase he had.
56:19 the launch code is actually given to a player: it is located at the captain's chair (room after generator room, in which player gets through the vent)
if i good remember there were at least 3 places where code was "written". DN and Doom burned hundred of hours of my life in 90`s. It`s good to remind some of the levels watching this video after 20+ years of break :)
the irritating thing is how the code is somehow inverted and red circles are "active" while green are "inactive" so it can be very irritating@@maciejjur1905
Lunar Reactor and Dark Side are personal favorites of mine. I was a bit surprised to hear someone call the red keycard orange.
Calling the red keycard 'orange' feels like I've committed a crime against boomer shooters.
@@rottguyYT You can save your soul by saying 10 "Hail to the King"s in front of Duke's spinning holographic head. To be fair Duke 3D has a pretty washed out palette :P
This was great! You were looking at it from a perspective that understands what makes a game fun and what types of tricks or rules a game needs to enforce in order to not only keep the playing having fun, but keep the player from playing the game in an un-fun way (if that makes sense lol). It's always interesting to see classics broken down like this, even if I've been playing them for over 25 years lol
Great video. My request for next FPS ranking is Blood!
The chase seen you see on the TV in level 2, is actually from a real live news broadcast. it's OJ Simpsons trying to escape in his Bronco.
Also in Tier Drops you mentioned you don't know how it works, dropping down the pipe? They use the same trick in the first episode where you drop down the vent. Halfway through the drop it teleports you to a different part of the map. So there isn't actually 2 areas on top of each other, they are actually quite far apart. Press tab to watch your map as you drop down.
Lunatic fringe does not teleport you anywhere. In the Build engine you can use the room over room trick in a way, that a full circle is actually 720 degrees instead of 360, you just need to carefully place the sector walls just to just a bit different coordinate. This way you can make even spiral staircases, but if you don't change the height of the sectors, you get impossible spaces.
Comparing the underground train with Blood's train is not fair. The underground trains are moving. In the train level of Blood the environment textures move, the train is build as any other levels.
Area 51 button combination: 4 buttons = 16 combinations, not that hard. If the 8 buttons are working together, then 256 combinations. A bit more tedious, but bearable. Yes, I played this level a long time ago to remember the combination :D
A far more accurate and eloquent way of putting it!
@1:00:15 -- All these years later i never get tired of hearing that CRUNCH sound😅
In E4M1 in the Mission Impossible vault room, if you use the jetpack to hover above the floor you won't trigger the alarms and waves of enemies, mimicking how in the movie Tom Cruise had to dangle above the floor.
Oh man...
Ha ! Genius
oh man! I love playing this game in Damn I'm Good, with the respawning enemies. This one is easily one of the hardest together with Derelict. The way to start with Pistol and trying to manage your explosive weapons so you can gib AS MUCH enemies as possible to prevent them from respawning. Such a challenge!
This game never gets old. I really wish they would make a remake (original levels + new ones in-between the original chapters).. only with the chalky Borderlands style graphics. Just like they did with Postal 4
Episode 4 secret "Area 51" didn't even need to solve the launch code. If y'pressed the "action" button where the exit symbol is hidden, Duke punched it thru the wall and the level would end.
Don't believe me? Give it a try 😎
Faces of death can be accessed without cheats in the atomic edition - you have to use the exit on the abyss (outside the battlelord arena) which takes you to launch facility again. Then back to the abyss. Then go to the same exit and it then takes you to faces of death.
That's just a bug though. Not intentionally implemented.
You cannot open the wall which leads to that exit tho, you can only noclip thru it - which means, it's inaccessible without cheats.
One thing I never realised about Launch Facility as a kid that I did as an adult is I'd assumed the explosion was build trying to make it look like the rocket was taking off, in it's own limited build engine way - only later did I recognise the rocket explodes, which I presume is a reference to the Challenger disaster.
@@evifoenplay are you sure you're old enough to play this game
Ye, I had the same hunch, since they couldn't make a rocket take-off even later (Episode 4).
52:15 I always chucked a rocket in there, revealing the keycard
The launch codes for the end of Area 51 are in the medical room on that transparent signboard.
Actually there are on several places. Eg. The commander chair when you descend the elevator shaft.
Hotel Hell has gotta be my favorite. Played countless deathmatches on this map.
In are 51 it isn't a rocket, it's the alien ship that was requisitioned by the US military in the movie Independence day, and the code is on the holographic screen with the teleporting assault commanders.
The two Assault Commanders are glitched tho: sometimes only 1 teleports out (or none at all) and if y'don't find out the wall behind the launch code panel is a fake an' y'can shoot thru it, y'gonna lose these 2 kills.
the levels ,soundtrack, weapons..everything about this game was awesome
It still is
@@jcdenton6427 yeah speaking of which, i went into duke again recently and there is a new Zdoom alternative to eduke32, its called raze and it has some new and exciting options, namely you can now adjust the looking pitch to 100% so you can look straight down and up, and you can adjust the FOV to 120... something ive been wanting to do since the release of ion fury and blood on steam since those games where on build, really makes you wish they had that in the 20th anniversary of dn3d... but raze also supports this as well as the megaton edition so im thinking of doing a replay of all those levels and the new episode plus the expansions.
AFAIK so far this game is the Guiness record holder for most Easter Eggs hidden within a game. Last time I counted, it was 74 alltogether.
except the protozoid slimers
The E1M2 sewers leads into the bar bathroom behind the toilet, it opens when you click the hand dryer
🤦♂
The "rocket" you can get in, in the Area 51 map, is an UFO. It's a reference to the movie Independence Day.
Also, the launch codes are written in several portions of the map as seen at 55:55
Hearing him say that and gloss over the opening of Pig Stye makes me feel really old. Lol
In E1M2, the sewer does actually loop into a different area in the map, being the bathroom of the club.
Call me crazy but I thought Shadow Warrior had much better levels and consistently great levels. Would love a ranking for that game as well for us Wangheads(?). Great video!
I second this, especially Master Leep's Temple/Dark Woods of the Serpent from the original shareware edition. (=^_^=)
Shadow Warrior is definitely a game I'd consider covering - some absolute gem levels in that game.
4:54 that's not just any "chase scene" that's THE police chase of the 90s
1994, ford bronco with a former football player inside ;D
Humiliating the Cycloid Emperor in a thumbnail-sized clip, very nice.
Basically he was a slightly stronger Overlord, nothin' really fancy. Sure it was moar challenging without a mouse, but still not THAT powerful of a boss...
Very well put together. When playing Duke Nukem 3D myself I always got the impression Freeway, Area 51 and Launch Facility were the top tier secret levels as they for the most part had comparable quality to the main levels. Tier Drops, Lunatic Fringe and Spin Cycle all had unique features but were really a showcase of what the build engine could do.
I found the first level to be the most impressive. Having an FPS that actually takes place on earth blew my mind back in the day. Especially with the adult movie theater with toilets and an arcade and everything.
The secret in the Sewers in Red Light district has a hidden door that leads into the Mens Room, so it does loop to a regular part of the level. Also you missed the Secrete in LA Meltdown. The same building that you go in through the window to kill two aliens, there's another window along the outer ledge (it's the one the Atomic Health in front of it) that has another room with red lighting and more Ammo and Health pickups.
Way to get nitpicky, lol.
I scrolled down just to see if someone else was annoyed by the Red Light District one
dropped down for this one myself
Great pace. Nice with focus on the commentary and footage with rankings as a bonus.
Stadium in N64 Duke Nukem was actually a large indoor stadium and felt way better than the PC one. Cycloid Emperor was even a giant voxel-based enemy.
Your editing and presentation on this vid is super detailed though, well done.
I can't believe we now got a Dean of Duke. Good shit!
The sewer DOES loop back into the bathroom behind the toilet. Secret door dude. Only opens from the toilet side after you destroy the toilet then try and open the wall.
The N64 version of the game made a lot of changes, some good and some bad, but one of the better ones was the Stadium level is actually finished out to look like a stadium, complete with tiered seating and an outer perimeter with concession stands, bathrooms etc. The Cycloid Emperor boss was also replaced on this version with a full 3D polygon version on himself that is ten times bigger and more intimidating looking but no less hard to beat, and kind of jars against the sprites used for all the other enemies. Curiously, while the Atomic Edition episode itself is not included, a few specific maps like Duke Burger, Area 52 and the Supermarket are ported faithfully as secret levels, and the Alien Enforcer enemy from the fourth episode is liberally parachuted into Lunar Apocalypse maps where it does kind of fit.
* Protector Drone, not Alien Enforcer
Fun fact: On Hollywood Holocaust, if you crouch behind the box in the room after the arcade where the pig cops blow through the wall, you don't take damage.
20+ years wasn't enough for me to learn this :(
@@rottguyYT I didn't figure it out on my own either, I think I saw it on some video talking about DN3D with some broll footage in the background
Got a recommendation for this vid, saw your name, and as an old ROTT kid immediately went to your channel to satisfy my needs. Only to find that you have 2 vids of 2 of my other beloved games from the era, but none about what your name suggests! I feel like this needs rectification.
Eventually...
Fun fact, the shrink ray didn't work on Battlelords before the atomic edition. Battlelords were avatars of hitscan terror.
It did, but y'had to hit'em on a VERY peculiar place (somewhere around the feet). You could also kill them while being tiny usin' RPG or Devastátor, and the tiny corpse remained on the floor like that lmfao 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
4:35 it DOES loop back if you open it from the other side (press USE on the wall behind that toilet at 4:43)
I played that game 20 years in a row online daily. And I built a lot of maps we played with up to 7 or 8 players.
Many disagreements with this rank but still nice video. I still think most of the best levels are on Episode 3 because it is Duke Nukem 3D at it's best, so much you use everything in your arsenal on it. Everything.
Episode 3 is the closest the player gets to feeling like the Duke Nukem we see on the cover, for sure.
@@rottguyYT Don't get why Flooded Zone isn't more liked. I love that stage.
Nice video! 52:20 if the cannons annoy you, you can destroy them with the rocket launcher.
Thanks! Around that same clip I was getting a bunch of janky hit detection with projectiles - maybe that's why I never noticed?
@@rottguyYT Be careful though because those cannons kinda aggro onto you when you fire at them (their next shot will fire straight at you)
@@rottguyYT Sometimes the auto-aim feature didn't work well. I turned it off altogether.
2:11 Well, actually we just followed the street. We did not know we could jump. We didn't know about RPG. It's a secret place after all. We were killing monster to the right, then to the left (through the window). We were lurking around this window, unable to get inside. Certainly there was something going in inside, but doors are shut. Unable to solve this mystery, we had to proceed down the street, so kill another monster, then finally discover alternative entry to the cinema. You play as very experienced player and missed all that struggle.
We were eventually discovering security cameras, and those cameras were showing quite mysterious view from some apartment. Street to the outside of apartment looked familiar, raising some questions. And then we went to check our suspicions. And we discovered this SECRET PLACE. What a rewarding experience. But you run straight inside, knowing it's there. It's not how it's been for first time players.
By the way, do you know what are steroids for? By using steroids you can jump into window to the opposite side of street and finish level in record time. There is an achievement in Anniversary Edition
You were right when you said that you were missing something in E4M11 AREA 51. The launch codes to exit the level are on the screen in the "hidden assault commander" room beside the teleporter, and one on either arm of the chair in the adjoining room. So easy to miss though, believe me. It took until I was an adult to notice it. Playing as a kid I was stuck as all hell. I ended up warping out to the next level because I couldn't figure it out back then.
The point of Tier Drops level is that the pipe things that connect parts of the level are actually invisible teleporters and you get teleported to other parts, while looking like they are stacked over each other.
Loved the idea of ranking levels like this. Plus, i think the way you break them down is pretty interesting. I hope you're able to keep making content like this. i'm sure this concept will work perfectly well with any classic or retro FPS of your interest (The Dooms and Quakes but also the Dusks and Ion Furys). I also agree that the proper way of covering these, is by order of appearance, just like you did. My only nitpick is that you should probably show the entire ranking at the very end of the video, but of course, is a small addition. Suscribed and definitely waiting for more!
Faces of death was a part of the Psx version of duke nukem 3d too , being a secret level that could be found in a ufo level from the exclusive psx levels. As for ranking duke nukem levels I've always changed my opinion on some of them , i enjoy most of them and it's hard to rank them. Grew up with the n64 version as my first one, the freeway level had a unique police station added to it. Hotel hell might be my favourite and i appreciated flood zone more throughout the years compared to early on, especially the n64 version. Playing against bots on n64, my favourite by far was the pirate themed level that used a section of the Babe Land mission.
I remember the code of Area 51 being in a scientific board with dots opens and closed.
Well... Nope, I don't even have an excuse for missing that, do I?
And in a chair too. Still, bullshit. Both too far away and you get confused to know which code belongs to which side.
Cool video mate. Love that YT algorithm recommends me such gems.
Nice video, would love to see more analysis like this.
4:55 that's not just any chase scene. It's the white Bronco chase when OJ Simpson was arrested for murder. Contemporaneously, pretty much anyone would have recognized that on the TV.
In Duke Burger level one thing i misunderstand is self-shrinking section. Out of all my playthroughs there wasn't any attempt where the glass will not be broken and thus i softlocked
Dude, it drives me nuts every time you call the red card orange! You did it to boost the comments, confess! :D :D :D
I wish I could say I did it on purpose and I am the master of the UA-cam algorithm, but... no.
I have played only episodes 1-3 (and usually skipped 2) but this was a good video overview of the levels. Thank you.
I beat the entirety of DukeNukem64 (all enemies killed, of course) on the hardest difficulty without knowing you could shrink the non-boss Battlelords.
I also don't think a lot of the what gets criticized in this game gets is all that big of a deal. I'm always enthralled when playing through the whole thing.
LA Rumble its okay I guess!!?? It is the besst level, such good atmosphere. I couldn’t agree more that Duke is always discussed in a cultural context and not often enough as a game. Keep up the good work
Thanks for the kind words! I think L.A. Rumble could have been great with just a few tweaks to tighten up the pacing.
The best thing in this map, is Duke taunting (yet again) id Software with his one-liner : "I ain't afraid of no Quake"
Since it is in your name, maybe you could rank the levels of the recently released ROTT Ludicrous Edition.
The gimmck of Warp Factor is that it's a (very abstract) version of the Starship Enterprise from Star Trek - look at the map from above and it's even shaped like the Enterprise, and a faithfully replicated Enterprise bridge from Star Trek The Next Generation can be found in a secret elevator.
I'm ashamed to have never realised this. Neat!
Felt the same way about Stadium as a kid, and tried to make what I thought the map should have been in the Day of the Toys map "Necessary Roughness."
Very interesting - really enjoyed it.
Albeit Duke3D was never one of my favorites some of the maps are very well designed and absolute classics.
I think your verdict was spot on for the most part.
It’s still one of my favorite PC games I play a lot
As underdeveloped as the tram in Rabid Transit was, I *did* find it to be very memorable. I was in jr. high when I got the game, and my gamer friend and I thought it was neat as hell, and it felt very novel at the time. This was before Half Life's iconic train sequence. Anyway, great video, thanks.
I don't remember much from the 64 version, expect the different weapons and all levels having blue sky /daylight. The Level Rabit Transit was like a completely different level almost. Way more complex train-systems if i remember correctly.
The drones can die in a ditch - I always despised them for what a pain to deal with they are. Only good thing about them is exploiting their stupidity by having them explode as you hide behind a closed door. Not a very Duke-like tactic but you gotta ease the pain where you can.
I mostly used up my laser tripbombs on them.
That "live news broadcast" on the TV in E1L2 was the famous OJ Simpson White Ford Bronco chase.
I'm one of those freaks the like EP2 the most for whatever reason and felt like most of EP3 insanely tedious with the exception of Rabid Transit and Hotel Hell. Awesome video nonetheless! Would love to see one done for the expansion packs and/or Blood.
the second Episode gives the game so much depth. It's like a whole new game/world and the contrast is awesome. It's just everything feels so alien and there is this really huge overpowering force you got to fight. I think it was creative as hell.
Episodd 2 is under rated. I can understand how the city style levels became Duke 3D's bread and butter, but the distinctiveness of those space levels makes them stand out to me.
@@lancebaylis3169 What also helps for me is how space isn't reserved for a last episode like it is in many games and even if someone didn't finish the whole game, they have a better chance of experiencing its briliant atmosphere.
Episode 2 is VERY underrated. That was the very first FPS game that REALLY gave a feeling for a vivid space station and sci-fi stuff. They even made the vacuum of space kill the player, should he cheat himself behind the unbreakable glass.
Lunar reactor has got the best music theme top! Aliens, Say your prayers!
Great video, thank you.
Great video! I've immensely enjoyed your analysis of the various aspects of level design - map layout, verticality, build engine effects, explosions, puzzles, enemy variety, lighting, music, real life-like locations, secrets and easter eggs - that make this game so much fun! Love your level choices, including not hating on E2. Personally, however, I did enjoy Spin Cycle quite a bit because of the chaos the moving conveyor belt creates! I feel most of the secret levels were meant to be creative diversions anyway.
4:35 you can actually open the wall at the end and enter that bathroom beside the pool table.
Nice work on this!
56:40 the codes for area 51 are written on the wall in other parts of the level
On the Hotel Hell secret level: The manhole visible near the exit encourages blowing up that tree. Being able to blow up manholes popped up a few times in earlier episodes. As for the waterfall, stuff hidden behind waterfalls is a game cliche, and its an alcove (unique).
In Duke Burger level, before you shrink yourself and go into the room full of enemies, there is a way to kill those enemies from a vent above the room, without having to go through shrinking. However, if you go that way you will not be able to do anything else yet as rest of things in that room get triggered by your actions.
Great video, subscribed! Love how you show the rankings, but I wish you had started at the worst level to the best.
Trust me, I am still going back-and-forth between whether to cover the levels in order of appearance or order of quality. I chose to copy MtPain27 instead of WatchMojo.
Aside for rapid transit that I would rank much higher and incubator that I would rank much lower, it's a pretty fair ranking of the level in the game.
Fantastic video all round
This is all very accurate. The past 2 years gave been on a retro FPS and worked my way through everything - Doom, Doom 2, the zillion wads, Quake and expansion packs, Shadow Warrior and expansion packs, Unreal and expansion packs, Heretic and all the expansion packs, and Duke nukem quickly lost my interest and frustrated me in exactly this way as outlined in this video. I thought it was just me, but your ranking system is exactly right. I lost total interest before I ever got tot he end of the lunar episode 2, and your points are 100% correct. the episodes worked and were so great and classic right up until he gets kidnapped and tried to be electrocuted and it all starts to drag just as you say. Thanks! I thought this was just me!
Not the message I was going for, but hey, I'm glad you got some catharsis out of the video regardless.
0:31 John St. John... In 1995? Kid, you got something wrong 🤨
The Launch Code for the missiles in Area 51 is where the Yellow Key Card is @55:45 It is easy to miss because, besides the keycard, there's nothing else to draw your eye to it.
Edit: Looking at the graphic for the code, it would've been easier to just place that on the bottom of the graphic, so when the player picks up the keycard, they can see the words launch code and see the sequence more easily at eye level.
The keys were Red, Yellow and Blue, you had to set the colour in Build so the game knows which door to unlock
You seem to avoid using exploits like being able to gib Octobrains with one Devastator missile or the Sentry Drone door thing.
No need to: there are MORE than enough ammo an' weapons on each an' every level - plus all the hidden areas!
Also, HoloDuke _does_ work well on Octabrains.
Interesting topic. Subscibed!
Spin Circle is funny if you try to get all monsters to spawn (including the end-room) Battle Sentries before starting to fight them or just watch how they all blow each other up
Superb job, thanks for the nostalgia
Hell yeah, now this is content.
Wish you would have done this actually going from best to worst, instead of going through the levels chronologically. Makes it more fun to watch IMO
Warp factor - there is a hidden Star Trek bridge. And there is one more episode - Duke it out in DC
I agree with 2 best levels. Moon base music is the best. I also like rabbit transit
Sorry I couldn't resist... Top Ten According to video:
1. E1L1 Hollywood Hollocaust
2. E2L8 Dark Side
3. E1L2 Red Light District
4. E2L7 Lunar Reactor
5. E3L8 Hotel Hell
6. E4L9 Critical Mass
7. E4L1 It's Impossible
8. E3L1 Raw Meat
9. E1L3 Death Row
10. E2L1. Spaceport
i spent hours playing this as a kid best times ever
Now THAT's what I call a top-list! Detailed analysis for each level, yet not too long and boring, yet again with pros AND cons given equal thought.
... aaand now do this for all other 357 games people mention in the comments!!
(scnr. ✌subbed.)
I was mostly on board until you got to episode 4, which I thought was garbage. Confusing level layouts, no ammo or health, just a bunch of themed levels of style over substance. They'd have all been in the 30s rank for me.
It took a while to grow on me, though evidently there are some levels in ep 4 that I still don't enjoy much at all.
Cool stuff! Looking forward to more content :)
Something Lunar Reactor really suffers from is that its high miniboss quantity and limited supplies, especially pickups for weapons themselves (instead of just ammo). This might not matter in episode play, but it makes it very much a slog in single level runs.
Edit: Doing more pistol only runs of your higher ranked levels, I think the shrink ray may be like the jetpack: It only trivializes levels it isn't found it. Those with it aren't based on fighting lots of otherwise tough enemies vulnerable to it (or are only found after them, like Rabid Transit), while those with it (at least in the open) lack such enemies in quantity.
Civvie hates the sentry drones.
Nice to see another Civvie fan
@@Canada407 His sense of humor is great. xD
Sigh, time to watch the Lunar Apocalypse episode again..
I feel like i remember playing total meltdown on ps1 and faces of death level. There's a wall you can go through to exit. Its been many years since ive played
14:24 Faces of Death is also a secret map in the otherwise all new episode on the PS1 port of the game. (what a let down for a secret, huh?)
Excellent video, been looking for FPS level reviews for a while. This look is exhaustive enough to give a good idea of each level, but doesn't bog down on minutiae. Very good balance and engaging style. Certainly will be waiting for more of these.
Feedback: Instead of straight ranking, for me scoring 1 - 5 or A - F would be easier to get a grip whether each level would be considered "good" or "bad". That would give a better idea how each game compares to FPS genre levels in general.
Would it be practical to make a final ranking best to worst or vice versa, where you could see the final list in one place? In the style of credits roll for example?
Since you asked: here's my take on your rankings.
Agree: Later part of Lunar Apocalypse has the best levels of the game; Occupied Territory, Lunar Reactor and Dark Side. As you mentioned, the feel isn't very "Duke" in those levels, but they stand on their own. EP2 is like a trippy filling in a sandwich of "regular Duke" of EP1 and EP3.
Disagree: Spin Cycle. It's my favorite level because of its supreme gimmickiness and is just plain fun to play on a whole different level. As a "proper" FPS level it must feel overtly silly, but I like that. Same goes for Lunatic Fringe and Tier Drops. They feel nothing like a real place, and that otherworldly atmosphere makes them appealing to me. Abyss, while tedious as a level, is very atmospheric as well and a good sendoff to EP2's weirdness.
Maybe reviewing Half-Life 1 chapters next? They should be distinguishable enough to make them rankable.
Glad to hear I'm filling a gap in the FPS UA-cam scene - there are so few left!
The ranking format (i.e. 1-5 or A-F vs order within the game itself) has been one of my biggest uncertainties in how to present my thoughts in my videos. My biggest reason for not including basic ratings out of 5 was to try and steer clear of comparing levels from different games against each other. I know I'll eventually hit some kind of inconsistency in my scoring from game to game and this feels like a way of avoiding that. Plus, I know I'm guilty of focusing in on review scores and the like when I consume content, and I know that without them I focus far more on what is actually being said. I'm hoping this means the comments focus more on what we each like and don't like, rather than a number or grading. Having said that, if enough people feel strongly about it, I'll always consider changing my approach.
Love your "trippy sandwich" description of EP2. I think the game would be worse off without a palette cleanser between EP1 and EP3.
As for what's next, Half-Life 1 is a game I'll probably steer clear of for a while. I've never had the adoration for it that so many do, and I don't think I'd be doing the game justice nor would I be creating a fun video to watch. It's a great game and raised the bar for FPS games but it's just never clicked with me. It would mean far fewer levels/chapters, but for now I'll focus on games I truly enjoy.
@@rottguyYT Thanks for responding. There's always room for high quality content. I wish best success should you continue the series.
Hey, there you go, for the most part i share that sentiment about the levels and didn't really bother building a wall of text about it, so you just saved me and rottguy some time.
To me, spin cycle was absolutely wonderfully fun and cool so i reacted like someone had just thrown an undeserved punch that i had to dodge when i saw it getting plopped at the bottom of the list.
I think we can all agree though that the 1st level was as good as it could possibly be for the time.
After e1m1 I instantly skipped to Dark Side to see its rank because in my mind there's no way that level deserves anything less than the 1st place. I guess 2nd place will do as well but come on, that level is a full adventure on its own.
It's a super close call. The impact of Hollywood Holocaust being the first level and giving such a good first impression probably just swayed it. Arguably Dark Side could have used less backtracking but I prefer to focus on the view that both levels are both some of the best I've seen in 90s FPS.
My favorite part of toxic dump is the hidden teleporter that lets you bypass a huge portion of the level and go directly to the normal exit.
Thank god u said this. Ill have to look it up the next time i do a playthrough. Toxic dump is the bane of my playthroughs. I hate that map lol
I feel sad for E2M9 from the original Doom. I remember it terrified me as a child, but got able to understand the narrative hints after a while (years) that it was about making the monsters fight each other. Two rooms that tell a story and introduce an unusual combat strategy at the time. Light years better than a circular room that causes motion sickness.
(Okay, the three-key room paranauê at the end was unnecessary, Sandy Petersen)
Anyway. Great video! I think my list would have been similar, because I also really like Lunar Apocalypse. It gives Duke Nukem a The Thing-like atmosphere (and soundtrack. God, the soundtrack). It's kind of claustrophobic and depressing, while at the same time the atmosphere doesn't lose its comical side.
If Duke Nukem Forever had done something in that nonsense style, that actually carries a weight, instead of giving the protagonist more anabolics, I think the franchise could have been much more interesting.
Damn, Taradino Cassatt guy has wildly different opinions than me on duke3d map rankings!
Still, it's good to see ole duke3d still getting some screen time smack dab in the middle of 2023.
Gonna check any other videos ya got, hopefully you got some on rise of the triad (ROTT), 'cause this modernized wolf3d clone needs some more lovin', despite having some of the most boring maps i ever begrudingly waddled through!
Edit: nah you ain't got any, might wanna do a rott map rating if you're feeling particularly masochistic, i'll be certainly entertained, especially if you let that wonderful rott midi music blast with a good soundfont.
ROTT feels like a video I have to make at some point but by the time the remaster comes out there'll be so many levels to cover. It's going to be a mammoth task. The Shareware levels and new episode in the remaster will take the tally beyond this video which took me ages as it is. At least Duke 3D had interesting and memorable levels to cover - ROTT's second half (if I ever muster the strength to review each level) not so much. Luckily the soundtrack is a work of art.
@@rottguyYT Wasn't kidding when i said it's a masochistic task, no one in their right mind will bother to play the lame old rott levels, and even the newer rott levels are kinda wack, leaving only andrew hulshult's fantastic music and the cool old guns to carry the burden.
This FPS have by far the most interesting and fun levels design of any shooters that I’ve played.
My favorites ones are from Levelord and Allen Blum, a lot of verticality in most of their levels.
It’s hard to disagree with Hollywood Holocaust being #1, this is peak DN3D level design and probably the best 1st level of any game of this genre.
And hard to disagree for spin cycle, being one of the worst idea ever made, it was obviously the last one.
Even if some peoples like to take jab a Randy, I think he did more than a good job as a level designer in this game.
Too bad that the shrinker completely f-up all the balance of the game, they should have ammo starve the player just like the magnum in older Resident Evil game, not more than a couple dozen munitions for a whole episode.
Personally I think this game and Quake 1 are the peak of 90’s shooters.
Outstanding musics, level design, enemies encounter, gameplay and atmosphere in both of those games. Quake might have better enemies and gameplay but DN3D have ridiculously good level design.
Duke It Out in D.C. and Caribbean Life’s a Beach have some solid level design, I presume you’ve probably already try those if you like Duke Nukem.
Nuclear Winter is the best pack if you want to play garbage Duke.
Pro tips:
- You can take steroids while you are small, it will make you grow in size instantly, useful for the 3-4 obligatory shrinker section and the alien that can shrink you.
- Like someone said, you can use a jet pack to don’t trigger the alarm, but you can simply stay on the computer, since it’s the floor that trigger the alarm.
As a big fan of this game, it was really fun to watch you talk about all those 40 levels.
I highly agree with Dark Side and some other, I might disagree with some of your ranking, like L.A. Rumble, but I am certainly not here to tell you what you should like and shouldn’t like.
That doesn’t change the fact that this whole video was highly interesting to watch and hearing your opinion.
I’ll have to watch the RTCW ranking, another great FPS.
I've actually never played the expansion packs for Duke 3D. Heard mixed reviews except for Life's a Beach which I find hard to look past the aesthetic. Some day I'll have to try them.
Great tip on the steroids - it seem so obvious now that you mention it!
My two cents on the expansions:
'Duke it out in DC' - has some high highs, and some VERY low lows. They did succeed very well at making very realistic depictions of real-life locations for the time, even when compared to other Duke3D levels, but in most cases the actual player experience of the level suffers pretty badly - they were certainly a bit too ambitious with some of these stages but its still worth a play if you love the game and can't get enough.
'Duke Caribbean Life's A Beach' - This one is pretty damn good. Solid level designs and some really funny gimmicks. Not much to say, it's just solid.
'Nuclear Winter' - Trash. Actually so bad, it has only seven stages - two of them are 'winter' reduxes of the first two levels of episode 1, and one is a boss stage. So that leaves us with only four real stages and they all suck. Loaded with repetitive scenery, cheap ambushes, bad design, and lame new enemies. Hard pass on this one.
in the second level, the "police chase" on the news is OJ's infamous white bronco lol
Very cool. I would love to see something like this for the original Doom, only because I'm much more familiar with that one.
If you haven't already, I recommend MtPain27. He has graded every Doom map released for retail as well as tons of mods. I'll steer clear of Doom mostly for this reason, honestly.
@@rottguyYT Understandable, cool of you to not want to step on another, similar review. Thanks for the info!