5 BEST HVAC Systems on the MARKET!
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- Опубліковано 15 чер 2024
- The best HVAC Brand doesn't matter. I've done other videos on that because having a good brand and bad installer means you've got a bad install. However, what are the 5 best HVAC systems on the market?
That list is here. Two criteria must be met. First, there has to be something unique or proprietary making it special among all the products in the HVAC industry. And second, its special qualities must be beneficial to you, the homeowner!
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Trane and American Standard Platinum Heat Pump System Link:
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro and Thank you to @BoujeeBabee
0:20 5 Best HVAC Systems on the Market Today
0:43 2 Criteria: HVAC system must be unique and benefit the Homeowner
1:46 Bosch 19 SEER Packaged Heat Pump System
2:20 Daikin VRV Life System
3:56 Lennox Signature Series Furnace and AC System
4:32 Rheem Prestige Series Furnace and AC System
5:59 Trane and American Standard Platinum Heat Pump System
7:17 Did we miss a system that should be on our list?
7:27 We'd love to earn your business. Griffin Air and New HVAC Guide - Навчання та стиль
Purchased: August 2023 - still works GREAT!I ua-cam.com/users/postUgkxxsUnXhGsSJLim_XnMHyQK0u3XVaW-CGn live in a studio and during the summer it gets scorching hot - really old building with no ac units. I can’t express how EASY it was to install. This unit has been a life savior during the summer and some days during other seasons where it can still be a bit warm at night. In this small place is my friend, a husky, poodle mix and myself. We need AC - lolI don’t use the dehumidifier option - I’m not sure if it will leak in my house, since I did not install the small draining hose that came with it. May look into it late but I don’t worry about much humidity in the apartment. I don’t understand why the negative reviews since all things mentioned, I personally did not find issues with. Definitely worth it!
You sir are proving great value to the internet thank you
Wow thanks pal
Thank you. Great to hear your educated evaluations.
Got a 30yr old Luxaire inside and outside. Still bangs like a champ. Except now I’m saying this it will probably break
GREE Has a similar unit....it's the GREE FLEX....it can be paired with any typical gas furnace, OR its special air handler.
I have an American Standard gold series 16 seer2 scheduled for install soon with a TM6 air handler. I hope I have made a good choice. There are so many brands to choose from. I am also going from a Trane 3 ton to an American Standard 4 ton.
were driving a water furnace system heating savings were $988.00 cooling savings were $1056.00 hot water savings were $936.00 annual. couldn't be happier :)
I have a 5 ton Lennox system HVAC and the AC was great until landscaper cut the hose to the system. I will swear by this system it is 25 years and is terrific. I had them service every year, and will replace it with the same and check out the others. BTW they added an additional air vent to my stairs .
*Used to supplement the up stairs when it gets hot outside this works very well and **Fastly.Cool** Also works good when the upstairs gets too hot in the Winter from the heater.*
No thanks
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣 thank you so much for the shoutout ‼️ this video was very informative i learned a lot watching
Thank you for the camera!
I need the camera too.What camera is it?
We added daiken to the brands we are selling. Their fit systems are cool.
Good list. The only trane or American standard I have to work on are 15+ years old.
You speak of the Rheem water sensor as a positive. Believe me, it is not! It is very prone to trip over nothing, and often lose connection. There's 2 codes. One just for Water Circuit Open, and Water Sensed. Get both often. Sometimes, on initial start up.
Love Rheem! Hate the water sensor idea! Or fix the issue. Maybe not have to be tripped base on continuity.
After having two long term Trane systems I purchased Trane as my most recent replacement considering the great life from the previous two. Two years ago my son decided to replace two 15 year old Am. Std. units at his home. He obtained quotes from several local dealers. I encouraged him to pay more and get the Trane which he did. Unfortunately one of the units has been a lemon and is still giving trouble. The unit kept wetting the filter and loosing refrigerant. After the one year warranty for labor expired he had to pay several hundred for labor to replace a leaking condensate plastic pan which failed due to the oil and chemicals leaking from the evaporator. The labor and refrigerant is not covered by Trane even when caused by a defective evaporator coil. Over a thousand dollars for refrigerant and labor not covered just seems to be absurd. The previous technicians did not identify the source of the leak. Last week another technician was checking the unit and said he did not think there was a detectable leak as the refrigerant was leaking so slow. All of sudden his sniffer in his tool bag began alarming. He had failed to turn it off when storing it. After a lot of dismantling and checking he located the leak in the condenser and has ordered a new one. After it is replaced and more refrigerant is used we do not know how much the charge will be. I really feel bad for influencing him to purchase Trane. Talking with another dealer where I live he has the opinion that Trane quality has declined.
Hey joshua.. I have been watching your channel for some time now and I was wondering what amana system you would recommend as most of my area sells amana here in northern iowa. Every install I have talked to said heat pump isn't the way to go as our Temps in the winter are well below 20 degrees. Thanks
I would have to defer to your local experts pal. Every market is different. Amanda has an extended labor warranty. Make sure to ask them about that.
The "Only" issue I have been told about Trane/American Standard is the leaking evaporator coils. The local supplier "claims" to have an almost 40% failure rate within 6 months to 1 year. I personally have not seen this, don't deal with DX equipment, I work with chillers and boilers. I have a new Lennox system, it had a leak within 6 months, was an easy fix, seems to be working fine. There are hundreds of 25+ year old Trane DX units still running, on commercial buildings.
They all have their hiccups. 🙂
I've heard this too, high failure rate with Trane and AS coils. Quality has decreased
@@NewHVACGuide
Think about the horrible environment a Car automobile HVAC system operates in compared to a home furnace and air conditioning condenser. Seems like the Car HVAC systems are much more problem free.
what is the best for an individual unit in a condominium, in your opinion? Thanks!!
I went with a Luxaire HL20B3621S Acclimate 1-Phase Heat Pump Split System. I know many people seem to hate York products but it has served me well. I believe its all about the quality of the install team. If they do everything the right way and don't take short cuts. Compaines in my area who offer Trane I would never go with because they don't pressure test or braze with a flow of nitrogen, nor do they side the unit for the home. So all though many will say Trane is the best, Trane here sucks because of the quaily of the teams that are installing them. I got 10 year parts and labor warranty through Johnston Controls. The system is quite with a Sound Level 70 dba running full. It also Variable Capacity Inverter Controlled Scroll Compressor, fully Communicating control. To tell you the truth I have seem Goodman's out preform a Trane or Daikin or Trane because of crappy installs. So really its about the company and quality of install for me. I have always told people when looking for a good HVAC company cheap is not always better. You will truly get what you pay for.
AS a york installer.. I've noticed a major quality drop in york in the past couple years :-/
What is your thoughts on Day & Night equipment
do you know if I can seperate the hvac/heat pump on units in florida? I never had that in Illinois. 3.5 ton @ 1800 sq feet, I am looking to possibly separate the units. I have an attic that is foam insulated, my combo unit is on the inside closet of my house, in Jacksonville, FL area. thanks for the video!
I think the camera takes great video. I’m hoping you don’t mind answering a question. I recently received a quote to replace a 4 ton AC unit…condenser, evaporator coil, Plenum, pan, 16 SEER, single stage cooling. Attic job. Replace one small section of ductwork that leads to a bedroom, where the current duct is smaller than the rest of the ducts. 80,000 BTU. Gas heater/furnace. 1900 square-foot home. $11,500. Carrier or Heil brand. In your opinion, does that sound like a reasonable price?
I was just quoted $11,000 for a 4 ton Lennox HVAC
What do you think about the ac pro heat pump system?
How about a VRF unit using a EXV Kit such as Hitachi ? I have to replace a 4 ton heat pump split system which has propane aux heat. Located in the southern states. From what I read so far it sounds way more efficient and less costly than a inverter compressor unit. Only problem I see is the local installers a reluctant to move off what they know year after year or adopt new tech.
Contractors want to be able to trust the manufacturers the way you trust us.
Hi from upper ny.
I have a gas furnace.looking to install heat pump due to gas prices going thru roof. Can I just add a mr.cool or do I need entire new heat pump system.tks for any advice
Just replaced my igniter on my 38 year old 92% efficient Keeprite furnace. Frigging stupid furnace is costing me money. 86 bucks for the igniter (sparker) and the other two visits I have had in the last 38 years were a staggering 56 bucks for a thermostat and 70 bucks for a limit switch. I don't know how they survive with costs like this.
Loved your intro with shout out to your youtube friend
Wat do u think about a temp star ac unit
I only want to know what the best packaged heat pump roof mounted system is. Where I live, 9 months of the year its a furnace here 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I have a 3 ton Lennox heatpump that been doing well but starting to leak Freon and is expensive type to refill, 27 years old!, I can't complain. so I am shopping for a new system, I have a 3 bedroom raised ranch in NC and wondering if I should get a mini split with concealed duct units to connect to existing duct work. is there such thing as dampeners to help control few zones with a shared unit? or is it better to have a separate indoor unit for each room?
yes there is such a thing. Daikin's DZK Zoning Kit should do the trick. You might be able to do a conventional zoning set up. Definitely check with one of your local pros
I am located in Huntington NY USA. Since 1978 I have heated my home with a Heat Pump. I also have 65 Solar panels on the roof of my home. I also use a heat pump water heater to make hot water, I have an electric stove and oven along with the usual amount of electric lights, Televisions, Etc....Etc. I keep the thermostat set at 74 Degree Fahrenheit for heating when it it is cold and 78 Degrees Fahrenheit for cooling when it is hot. During the past 12 months my total cost for electric has been $165 Dollars US. The system is a Lennox 5 Ton Air to Air Heat Pump. Inside the house I have an Air Duct System to direct the warm air from the heat Pump. In the summer the same unit serves as Air Conditioning for the house. I have a HEPPA 16 Filter System to filter out dust and pollen. Me next door neighbor lives in a more or less identical house with Oil Heat and they spend about $3,000 a year on oil. I have saved a ton of money with the heat pump and my house is much more comfortable in winter than my neighbor.
Who would you recommend for an hvac install in the area? Having trouble finding good contractors with heat pump knowledge.
I need to replace my ac and furnance and have been doing my own research. One contractor used to do Goodman but their parts are hard to find so he specializes on Rheem (my water heater is also rheem). Another contractor said Goodman is terrible and he specializes in Armstrong. My neighbors all have Goodman so I wanted to go that route, but now I don't know. Which contractor is telling the truth, and which do you think I should go with?
I almost went with Rheem or Trane and ended up going with an Amana system solely based on the warranty and the only contractor to offer a 10 year labor warranty, whereas everyone else was 1 year. I went with the ASZC18 and AMVC96. Now you are starting to make me wish I had went with one of the others!!
Without saying too much, I think you made a good decision 😉
Good choice, don’t let the name fool ya.
The contractor is important for an install as well as parts availability. Amana has good warranty and are pretty good systems and many techs do like them - in fact some prefer them over Carrier and Trane. I too probably would’ve picked the shop offering Amana with the 10 year labor warranty.
How much was that labor warranty?
You paid for that labor warranty/ insurance policy. They do not come with the equipment like the parts warranty.
I got 2 estimates for my home on ac units. One contractor offers Rheem or Trane. And the other offers York or Amana. I wish I knew more about these units so I can pull the trigger soon I need central air installed in my home.
Which contractor did you like better?
👏 you know that VRV is my Jam. Glad it makes your list. No shout-out though? Awe....
Ha! I plan to do a VRV Life only exclusive video soon. Wanna collab?
@@NewHVACGuide should for sure! Tons to talk about on it.. Yea im down.
Can the daikin feed into an air handler and also a minisplit?
Thoughts on a Coleman 3 ton 16 seer for 1762 sq ft in Indiana?
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Why didn’t the Carrier Infinity series with greenspeed technology make the list?
I have 10 year old Lennox that the board just went out on (had to jump and bypass safety switches temporarily). $250 for a "universal" board as the contractor's people can't get the Lennox board. Then it became clear the fan on the outside unit needs to be replaced (was told $450 to replace, parts + labor).
I really liked the contractor they have but they aren't Lennox folk but can do Rheem and other brands. It's a 4-ton electric Heating & Air unit with heat pump system in it. I have no gas at the property so it'll be another heat pump.
He quoted me $7800 for the cheapest Rheem unit, which was everything - parts & labor. I have nothing to compare it to as I've never bought an HVAC unit. Does all of that sound right, and also, is Rheem a good brand? I don't mind paying around $10-12k but I do want something like the econet where I can control it while away. Thoughts? Suggestions?
I'm looking for an HVAC packaged unit for Arizona. I want an inverter system...no single stage, not two stage but a true variable speed. Are there any packaged unit with inverter technology...my current unit is a two ton Rheem...gas and electric
I have an old Fedders Adaptomatic Cooling Unit in my condo, it is installed above the bathroom with ducts going into each room. After 40 years of use it finally gave up and I am trying to figure out what system and contractor to get. The company no longer exists I am novice in this field, do you have any suggestions for me, what brand would be similar if still available, I live in the Boston area.
Thank you. Patrick
Great video.
Thanks pal
What about a Trane XR14 2.5 ton for my 1,100 sq ft house with no shade. My old Trane is a 10 seer from 1998 so its 25 yrs old. Any idea how much I can save per month? Im in South West Missouri and my house was built in 1981
Hi Joshua, love you channel. HOW would customer know if A system is being installed properly . We had a trane unit installed and had trouble from the get go. Keep hearing if it was installed properly to begin with other issues would not be. I have learned the hard way the thermostat is big deal because it communications with the unit and if they are not all synced let's call it, the system will have problems. What can a customer watch for to prevent improper installation?????? The Mrs in Texas. Thanks hope you can address this even though probably not in time for me ,buying this week,
Check out our series on bad installations here: ua-cam.com/play/PL1dbnjiO1nf6hEX3oL0D9A99qNJHE-897.html
Any thoughts on the Trane XR13 13 SEER 4TTTR3048 ($1,500 savings) vs the York 17 SEER split system R410A? Or Trane XR16 for +$200 over York
My Trane XR13 installed in 2011 failed last week due to leaks on the condenser coil. That's in MI where AC it's only used max 5 months a year. The installer who did the job said they are crappy units but they didn't know back then 🤔... He was trying to sell me a Bryant for a replacement for $6,800 but I sent him packing because I got a Goodman for $4700. These were all 4T units.
No mention about cost, he was talking about the high efficiency of the Lennox 99 furnace and 28 seer on the unit. The problem is that could cost 25k+ depending upon size, and once the warranty expires the replacement parts are very expensive, those units are for people with unlimited funds or who want the latest tech. Most likely you will never get your money back, you may save a few dollars a month on cooling and heating cost but never recoup the upfront cost, and the repair cost will be very high.
Those Lennox units suck
how about Carrier hvac systems??
WHO GIVES A CRAP ABOUT ALL THE BELLS AND WHISTLES--WELL SOME DO BUT IT JUST SEEMS LIKE MORE THINGS TO GO WRONG!!! ALL I CARE ABOUT IS RELIABILITY AND COST UP FRONT AND $$$$ DOWN THE-LINE REPAIRS!
I'm considering replacing one of my ac units with a Trane XR15 heat pump with a TEM6 handler. It's a 2 ton 15 seer. It was recommended by my HVAC service provider. Any feedback on that set-up, good or bad would be appreciated.
The TEM6 is the variable speed metal air handler. The poly carbonate cabinet air handler‘s are superior. Ask your contractor what the cost difference would be to install a TAM air handler. Other than that, I don’t have much comment
@@NewHVACGuide Thank you so much for your response!
i won't sell spine fin tubing. yes it is very efficient. however, i would be selling an expensive maintenance every 3-5 years. you're looking at a complete break down of the condensing unit to expose the coil. owners manual says to take a propane torch to burn the embedded debris and finish with a hose. most guys in the trade are charging at least 300-350 perhaps more for a proper maintenance. if your contractor won't inform you of the hidden costs, then find someone else. a trane condenser is for someone who is handy or can afford the proper upkeep. i've seen too many burned out trane compressors for lack of maintenance. by the way, compressors don't die, they're murdered.
I am a Rheem dealer. Love Rheem/Ruud like Bosch
All brands have low end high end products. More about contractor in area. Who offers best warranty , availability on parts, licsence company with high standards on installation, service
We are looking to purchase a Lennox HVAC system. We live in Los Angeles, California. Where would you recommend we buy it from to get the best price and service?
Go to their dealer locator
Whats your opinion on Heil ?
I’m a Pro and here is my preferences.
# 1 Trane/American Standard
# 2 Lennox
# 3 Rheem/Ruud
# 4 Carrier/Bryant
# 5 The rest...........
What are the things you look for in a brand? Just curious if they are the same as mine. 🙂
@@NewHVACGuide i look for ease of maintenance. That places the trane heat pump or straight cool condenser last. york, and goodman have a 16 seer or greater condenser and a 10 year warranty. the issue for me is how much do i want to pay for manufacturer's advertising. I'll take a trane furnace first. i can give a customer a 2 year labor warranty and i won't have to return.
Agree with Trane. I’m now just replacing an ac unit from 1997. I never many problems with it at all. I did replace furnace with Rheem, so going with a Rheem ac
Hi Chris, what is the best for an individual unit in a condominium, in your opinion? Thanks!! 😊
@@NewHVACGuide Are Goodman heat pumps good?
Are there any heat pumps air handler manufacturers besides Bosch that use a stainless steel A coil?
Do you have time to come Bucks Pennsylvania and install a new Heat Pump for me? Lol
What are your thoughts on Ruud, and ICP? Durability, quality, and life span. I’m about to start a new build here in SE Ohio, and these two brands have been the ones mentioned to me from the contractors I’ve received qoutes from.
Rheem and Ruud are good and exact same units. . This Brand is having the least amount of problems right now. ICP owns Carrier. For ICP, what you need to watch out for. The TXV in the evap coil can go bad after a few years. This could be fixed with adding what we call "AC Renu" But best to change it out if that occurs. If you are having a new A/C installed, make sure the crew puts in brand new dual run capacitor. Those can go bad within the first year because of cheap china made crap.
@@smacleod69 thank you sir!
Hi Chuck. Both have decent reputations in the industry. As mentioned above, Ruud is the same as Rheem. However, ICP does not own Carrier. They were once both a subsidiary of United technologies and now Carrier has branched off separately and owns ICP. Not that it matters much…
Although Carrier owns ICP, their products aren’t exactly the same unlike Carrier and Bryant. I think the ultimate answer to your question is find a good contractor you like and going with whatever brand they love. The installer matters way more than the brand. I did a whole series on that ;-)
Also, do not add AC renew or anything else to a system without checking with the manufacturer first. This can void warranties sometimes
@@NewHVACGuide I appreciate it, thanks for the advice!
I have a Trane air conditioner that's about four years old now and an 18 year old Trane whole home furnace I'm planning to replace very soon. I like the American Standard furnace that looks like a fridge, because it's so easy to access everything. However, i think you'd only mentioned the platinum series heat pump and not sure if that will also work with the air conditioner? From what I understand, heat pumps push both cool and hot air...does that make my air conditioner redundant or can it work in tandem? Or I think Trane might also offer a platinum series furnace/not heat pump that can pair with the air conditioner. Clearly I'm not an expert, though would appreciate your guide here. Thanks.:)
Check out the Trane S series furnaces. And yes, they make high end ACs comparable to the heat pumps. We do mostly heat pumps here.
@@NewHVACGuide Our Plumbing Service uses American Standard and the Platinum it variable speed and the most expensive, the 2 speed system is what we are thinking about to replace our 20 year old single stage Trane. Is the price different enough to step down or should we try to step up??? D&M in Virginia
Does anyone know anything about Fujitsu as an HVAC brand?
Thanks!
You’re welcome!
And thank you!
I might need a a/c and gas furnace in the near future. I have my furnace set between 68 and 70 for a 504 sq foot studio apt that I own. Some of the calculators online show between 20,000 btu and 25,000 btu. I am not the sharpest pencil in the light socket but I am guessing 8,000 to 10,000. Also my a/c in the summer I only run when it is in the upper 80's. It is set for 80 degrees. what would the total price incl. install be?? I don't pay for gas, it is incl. in condo fee. Thank you.
Very loaded question. So many variables including the type of system and efficiencies. Also every market is different. I recommend getting at least three quotes and as many as you are willing to spend time getting.
@@NewHVACGuide I have a general idea what I need. Nothing too big because it is basically one small room. I don't need it for the small hallway and kitchen. I was told by one Hvac when i had my furnace inspected, that I only need a small furnace. Like I mentioned, gas is included. Condo pays for that so I don't need one of those split level what ever you call them. I might settle on Trane, Amer Standard. I have a Luxaire from '98. Thank you for your time.
I have a 3 ton Rheem that is 9 years old. It started leaking Freon at the copper that connects to the coil. This was a lake house for 6 of those 9 years meaning the unit didn't run very much. Seems to me that the unit should have lasted a bit longer. It's already in the 90s here in Oklahoma so AC is mandatory. Replace the coil or the entire unit? Seems that I should wait until a R32 unit comes out.
Big decision! Question might be, do you want to put in the money, your repair cost would be into a 9 year old system. 9 years isn't that long compared to the usual life span
Thank you. Repair is my decision. I'll be 72 in August; how long does it have to work?
@@glennspeck388 well considering you’ve got at least another 35 years left, it better work a while!
@@suzqdfw Many here would disagree, but there is a stop leak on the market that might push repairs down the road a little. I am no part of an HVAC tech, just a lowly retired chemist. Whatever you decide, good luck.
As someone looking to replace my existing HVAC system, I have seen far too many reviews that, like this one, focus on top-of-the-line equipment. What percentage of homeowners will buy it? 1 or 2 percent? What I want to see are more discussions of the economy and mid-range systems that the vast majority of people will choose.
I’m not sure exact percentages but we sell more 17+ seer equipment than economy. But I hear you. I’ll work on a few videos for low end systems
I wouldn't really be looking up any reviews for budget equipment. Budget equipment will cost you more in the long run. Don't get anything with less then a 10 year warranty. Make sure the contract installs it correctly... Especially for budget.
What about Coleman units?
Hard to stop a Trane. Just replaced my 32 year old Trane with a new one. Had one service call on it ever. New one is a two stage.
My 17 year old Trane had it's first service call the other day. I think it might be failing and probably will replace with another Trane
Any recommendations for an oil furnace? Cant seems to find any info on that
I know Lennox/Ducane still makes them. We installed one last year.
@@NewHVACGuide thank you very much
How is comfortmaker?
In general, if a manufacturer is making some thing that is truly unique and proprietary, then, repair technicians are stuck having to buy that product from that manufacture as opposed to a generic part that is widely made by Various manufacturers. Now you’re held hostage to their pricing. And if the product has limited contracts with repair people, like grand design for example,, you’re stuck.
DO NOT BUT IN A LENNOX! I am not surprised they just had a class action lawsuit. They are terrible and I cry about it everyday, probably need to replace my system we just put in in 2016.... already ... after thousands in repair costs already. Coil, thermostats, blower motor, constantly leaking, it doesn't send errors correctly to its smart thermostats. And we got their top level products .....
hmm, I don't care about gimmicks. I'm looking for something that is reliable with low maintenance. I literally have a Coleman furnace and AC from the 70s. And yes, it's in that pea green color. Sure things have went out on them, but for the most part, I could fix it without having a tech come. New motors? Capacitors? water drain? did it. I only ended up calling a tech when a transformer went out and I wasn't sure on going about how to replace it. Surprisingly the compressor and coils are still good and original.
add: It's just that it's so old that I have to consider replacing them for higher efficiency. I'm considering a heat pump as it rarely gets below 0F and only -10F like 3 days a year.
Nice. Sounds like a similar climate to here. Good luck!
Question for you: I have a 17 year old Trane that's never given me a problem, until a few days ago. HVAC man says evaporator coil needs a good cleaning and will charge around
$1k to pull it out, clean it and replace. should I go that route, or since the unit is 17 years old, just replace it? Edit: it uses R22 also, :(
You should get a new one as the old ones use more electricity. And the new ones will last another 10 years.
@@samisyed2370 I decided to replace the entire system, thanks.
Bought a brand new Trane in 9/22.
Trane unit was manufactured in 9/22.
Panama Florida plant orgin.
Model 4WCC4030A1000AB
Lasted 30 days then quit.
Called Trane authorized dealer that sold/installed unit.
Took him 11 months to come back out.
No heat during winter/ no AC during summer, 11 months no service,no show.
Finally comes out and tells me unit has defective coil, will have to be replaced.
Repair man tore brand new AC unit apart in yard. Brand new in pieces, 30 days of service,now scattered across yard.
He was not happy , and neither was I.
Fast foward 90 days ,and I hear some one drilling on my AC unit outside.
I go to window ,but can see no one.
I walk outside to find 2 new holes drilled into side of hvac unit...
Exactly 9 11/16 from edge....Exactly where new coil had just been replaced!!!!!!!
Over $5,000 for a Trane unit that operated less than 100 days total.
Then was sabotaged by someone who knew exactly where the coil is sitting behind panel cover.
Called 1800Trane and asked if installer had been reimbursed for labor,on the warranty claim on the defective unit.
Or did he not get paid for work,and now wants revenge.
Trane would not answer.
Called cops,they said oh well,no witnesses, no case.
In the market right now for a unit. Deciding between 16 steer 2 stage trane or lennox unit. Any thoughts anyone?
Not a fan of the 2 stage compressors for Trane. We’ve replaced a bunch of em
can you switch from furnace to a heat pump
Yep
edited to reflect current status:
We purchased an American Standard heating and cooling unit for a new, custom home. We initially commented to the installer that the refrigerant lines seems excessively noisy for a unit that is advertised as “quiet”. Dealer didn’t find anything wrong with the install, or refrigerant lines and there were no changes to made.
Now, less than two years later, the compressor locked up.
The distributor didn't have a replacement part and initially we were told it could take three weeks to receive one. Our dealer (AdvancedAir LLC) worked with someone who was able to procure a replacement compressor off of the factory floor, drove two hours to pick it up and then repaired the unit so that it is now functioning better than new. Total time without A/C was a week which is much better than three.
With the new compressor installed, it is now obvious that the original compressor was faulty from the start. I have a video of the original compressor noise verses the replacement compressor, but can't post it here and see no need to at this time. We can no longer hear the AC running. Before, the compressor could be heard in any room located on the same side of the house as the outdoor unit. Before, the noise in the basement was almost unbearable... now, it's just a gentle hum.
Because of this, our dealer is making an appeal to American Standard to cover it under warranty. Unfortunately, even though the compressor is covered, the labor and the 13-14 pounds of replacement refrigerant contaminated by the faulty compressor is not covered after a year. Hopefully American Standard will do the right thing and help with the costs.
#trane #americanstandardair
I’d call the media and the state attorney general
What’s the model and serial number? I’ll see if I can get a compressor for it.
@@NewHVACGuide Thanks for following up. Our dealer was able to find someone who could grab a new compressor off of the factory floor. As a result, instead of three weeks, we were up and running in one week. Now that the new compressor installed, it's obvious that the original compressor was faulty. The noise difference is night and day! Unfortunately, the warranty after 1 year only covers the compressor. Our dealer is appealing to American Standard to see if they will help cover the cost of the labor and the 13-14 pounds of refrigerant that was contaminated by the faulty compressor. I'll keep you updated.
they say that "ameican standard" platinum series is the very best hvac systems in the world anyway what do you think???
Depends on who you ask ☺️
What about LG ...good or not and hvac system unit and install rough price.
Does your contractor like LG?
@@NewHVACGuide I always liked LG, but the suppliers of LG in my area are HORRIBLE. Also we have an extremely hard time getting credit for warranty parts for LG as well. We actually stopped selling LG altogether.
After 25 years, my Gibson furnace while still good, the coil is leaking and because it's a R22 systems, everyone is saying I should replace it and trying to sell me a new system estimates between 9k and 12k for just an 80%, 3 ton furnace system. I don't even know what brand I should go with.
I’d focus on finding a good contractor and then go with the brand they recommend
I use to do clean room installations and what I can say with no doubt is that you should never base any decision on UV being part of the filtration. As fast as the air is moving you would have to over several hundred watts for it to have any impact.
Consider though, that the place where the UV is will not grow things. So the last place you want to have to toss out the unit and buy a new one is the main handler. If you keep that clean, you can discourage it as a source of mold/mildew. If the UV is not covering the basin or evaporator, it's not a good design.
If you are just trying to purify the air, well that's different. But preventing the places where it originates from getting growth, well, that's the point really.
UV is very effective at killing mold growing on AC coils. Coils that are moist on a continuous basis, even here in the ultra low humidity desert. As someone who has pretty extreme allergies to mold, I can state unequivocally that UV made a significant difference in my allergies. My home went from basically unlivable to being OK for me in less than a week.
You just have to make sure that all the surfaces that could be wet are exposed - my parents had a horizontal V coil so we had to put three bulbs in to hit all three surfaces as they all could potentially be wet (and they were, and pretty nasty). Vertical A coils are the easiest - just one light under the coil is sufficient.
Then use Led UVC !
Any system that isn't designed to fail by leaking refrigerant. The refrigerant should never leak.
Wouldn’t it be nice if none did 🙂
@@NewHVACGuide They all will leak, some faster than others. On a very quiet night listen carefully, you hear rusting steel accumulators and filter driers.
Paper-thin tubing only has to corrode slightly.
They're designed to leak.
Do you service Connecticut? If so I'd love to get a quote. Also, I know that I need to upgrade my electrical panel first, do you have electricians that can handle that portion or do I need to get one on my own?
Rheems quality just isnt as good as it used to be, my last hvac system since the house was built in 2007 was a Rheem 2.5 ton whole hvac system, but now I’m seeing a bunch of reports saying that Rheems are leaking refrid a lot more quickly. Mine has a leak and its more than 10 years old already til this day, I’m trying to upgrade to a Bosch IDS 2.0 either light or premium, bosch seems like one of the only brands that is actually seeming to be reliable and high quality.
Never once talked about the problems that these units come with.
I just don't like the Daiken One thermostat.... what can I replace it with ?
Depending on what kind of system you have, you could install a CTK04. But with some systems like the Daikin Fit, if you install a CTK 04, you may have to have a zoning module installed as well for it to operate properly.
OR! Wait until next year 😉
I can’t tell you why though 😉
Hi Griffin my contractor gave me a quote for American Standard and he is recommending 4A7A6048, AUD2C100A9V AND 4PXCCU48B.
* Silver 4 ton split A/C UNIT 16 seer
* Silver AUD2 Series 100.000 BTU variable speed 2 stage
* Split high efficiency coil with txv
*Adaptive sheet metal / refrigerant dryer / copper line pressure test
* Poly pad / vacumm / drain safety switch
* Flush clean line set/ new disconnect box
With rebates, the final Price is $ 10.900
Is this a good unit and is the price reasonable for this unit?
No don’t buy it!!!!!!!!
@@Jay2pay why?
No carrier ?
Nope 🙂
Appears that Daikin has the best warranty with 12 years parts including the compressor, and 6 years labor.
I did a UA-cam video series of a tournament comparing warranties. I won’t say who won 😉
@@NewHVACGuide Ok, ok, I'll check them out. Thanks. 😀
Posted transcript in Korean... ???
woohoo I went with rheem 16 seer after the 10 seer rheem went bad the old unit lasted a good 13 yrs
Nice!
ARENT YOU PAID BY DAIKIN?
i thought carrier was a good brand thats why i got one. but your the expert not i . thanks
I’m looking at the Carrier Infinity Series. How do you like your Carrier system. I heard they ate one of the best.
@terryhendricks1965 I bet a Carrier guy told you that 😉
Have you heard of Gaurdian yet?
Yes
Sorry.. Carrier should be onthe list..
Which of their systems would you add?
My $.02 = do ya wanna maintain a "Tesla" or a "Toyota"?
See the newly announced Daikin ATMOSPHERA with R-32 Refrigerant? --- "HOUSTON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--For the first time in North America, Daikin is launching a home comfort product featuring R-32, a refrigerant with one-third the Global Warming Potential (GWP) of the most common refrigerants currently being used in the United States and Canada."
"The new Daikin ATMOSPHERA system featuring R-32 refrigerant from Daikin North America LLC is a single zone, ductless system that gains impressive efficiencies over its R-410A predecessor line, the LV Series, with up to 27.4 SEER, 13.8 HSPF and 16.3 EER ratings for ultra-efficient cooling and heating."
The Atmosphera is in the hopper for future videos already. Have you put any of them in yet?
Don't buy a Mr Cool system , mine is 6 months old and is completely junk. I have to change this one out again. Junk
DO NOT BUY LENNOX!!!! I can't stress this enough. I have worked in the HVAC for 25 years. never liked lennox. And for the past two year keeps confirming how bad they are. Their Evap coils develop leaks within 2 years. Compressors and heat exchangers have vibration issues. The variable speed a/c or heat pumps parts need to be changed out constantly due to issues. There is not enough tranining on them and system are complex. The S30 thermsotat smart hub goes out constantly. If you do get a Lennox, Buy a ten year parts and labor warranty cuz you will need it.
😬 😱
I swear by Lennox 10/10 in my book great looking there customer service is great and they’ve ironed out all those kinks with the heat exchangers and the coils
@@mattmcdermott5539 I hope you are getting a commision for saying that. Lennox hasn't fixed anything in there evap coils. Even due to the class action lawsuit they had. Lennox just dished out the money and fixed nothing. Still finding leaks in coils within a year of installation. Nothing has changed only gotten worse!
OK all you Lennox Signature SLP99 lovers! Normal or Not! Inducer fan noise (metalic/rattling) at startup due to condensate hitting fan blades and plastic fan housing?
My Lennox has a leak in one of the evap capillaries. Only 9 years old but have had to refill it the past 4 years with refrigerant.
Lennox is king
haha. Big fan?
@@NewHVACGuide excellent product ! In my opinion I work on lots more
@@leelee287 We don't have a good supplier for Lennox here. The closest one is almost 2 hours away and wants to charge freight charges to deliver to us
@@NewHVACGuide I’m in Canada and I work for a massive hvac company our service depart goes to 30k plus calls a year with 29 service techs and our install division does 25 retro fits a day 6 days a week .
We carry Lennox Trane Goodman napoleon Trane by far has the worst blower motor and Lennox signature serious is untouchable but very pricey
@@leelee287 Signature series must be where the quality kicks in. The lower end stuff is very low quality
What? No Goodman/Amana?? 😂 😂
Daikin made it on the list ☺️
@@NewHVACGuide 🤢🤮
@@stevenrobertson3323 You must be one of those Trane guys we always hear about. ha ha just kidding
Is Concord any good?
spine fin coil is a BEEACTH to clean ....
Get Mitsubishi or LG and be done with it.
Trane has the worst customer service
You are nit explaining anything in detail.