Mostly good information; however, there are important details missing. More important than the laser power is the per-pulse energy (PPE). PPE tells you more about the laser than just how much energy is in each pulse. Generally speaking, a laser with a PPE of under 1mJ indicates inferior fiber; the pulse energy is managed to reduce the liklihood of fiber damage caused by the laser being absorbed by fiber impurities. How do you know what the PPE of the laser is if it's not listed in the specification sheet? Divide the maximum power by the lowest Pulse Repetition Frequency (PRF) for a Q-switched laser (optimum pulse repetition frequency (PRFo) for MOPA), and you get the approximate PPE, i.e., 20W / 20,000 = 0.001J = 1mJ. I would not buy a fiber laser that has a PPE under 1mJ. Another advantage MOPA has over a Q-switched fiber laser is the ability to go below the optimized pulse repetition frequency (PRFo). PRFo is the frequency where both pulse energy and power are at their maximum. Below PRFo, power is reduced approximately linearily, and pulse energy is usually capped at the maximum (fun fact, in diode-pumped open-air lasers, pulse energy increases below PRFo). Since we consider power to be "heat", we're effectively engraving with a lower heat affected zone (HAZ), which means better cuts--typically we want high PPE to engrave, and power (heat) to mark/anneal. Combine this with the ability to modify the pulse width, or the time each pulse interacts with the material, and we have complete control over the application. Why can't you anneal with a Raycus laser? The IPG laser systems Control Laser Corporation (CLC) was selling when IPG came out with their 20-Watt laser came with a Linos 254mm Focal Length (FL) lens, having a 7-inch field. These are 1mJ lasers, and are very capable of annealing with the correct parameters. I would argue that the Raycus systems likely have a cheap Opex lens, and this, combined with the low PPE is why these lasers have difficulties annealing. The Opex lens resolving power is crap; there is no discernable airy disc with these lenses; the laser is diffused too much, causing energy density to suffer. A Linos or Rofin-Sinar lens, having that large 120mm output lens, have wonderful resolving power, and this is why the IPG 20Watt laser, having a maximum frequency of 40kHz, can anneal all day long without problems. Yes, the Linos lens is about $1,600 more than the ~$50 Opex lens, but when you consider that you need to add more power with the Opex lens to get the same effect (energy density) as the Linos lens, it's cheaper to buy an expensive lens than to buy a laser with more power. Also important is the size of the laser beam going into the focus lens, as this is one of the parameters to the spot size algorithm. If the beam is small going into the lens, the spot will be large, i.e., low energy density. However, if the beam is large going into the focus lens, the spot will be small, high energy density. So, it's important to consider the complete system when talking about capabilities and applications, and comparing between systems. Stick a Linos lens on that Raycus, expand the beam to 8mm, and see what happens! Finally, I want to clarify that IPG is originally a Russian company, that moved the headquarters to Massachusetts to have a better political environment to operate in. Yes, there are factories in Germany, and still in Russia, and yes, those Chinese systems that claim to have IPG lasers in them are really IPG lasers (manufactured in Russia). Most general purpose fiber lasers from IPG are manufactured in Germany, and I think that's what you meant to say; i.e., the German IPG fiber is the holy grail of q-switched fiber lasers. (For MOPA, SPI Lasers, now part of Trumpf, is the equivalent). -Laser-Lance (AKA Vasily Basov, former employee of Control Laser Corporation, part of Hans Laser, China)
Lance, So after everything you said, is there a laser you would reccomend instead? Is there one that is strong enought o engrave in metal and softer materials like wood? And any of them have US support? Thanks so much in advance!
You're not going to find a laser that specializes in engraving wood and metal. CO2 lasers are used to engrave organics like wood acrylic glass and leather, fiber lasers are used to engrave inorganics like steel aluminum brass and copper.
I'm about to purchase one and they said laser source is Max and JPT and laser frequency is 20 - 80 kHz with cost 1500$ I have no idea but now I realized that I have to search for another, thank you for saving our time and sharing those details,
I know it's the end of 2022 now, but I just purchased a brand new 30W Raycus Fiber Laser with a 200x200mm lense for $1,600 and free shipping from the USA! The seller was asking $1,800 obo on eBay for it because the Z Axis focus knob had gotten broken off during handling but they assumed the rest of the machine functions as intended and nothing else was damaged, so I offered $1,600 and they accept and they are even going to ship out a new focus knob for it. Honestly I'm not even worried about the knob as it looks like I'll be able to 3D print a knob for it no problem. And at the price I paid, that easily leaves me plenty of money to pick up a rotary and a smaller lens or two.
This is a great video and I've referred to it several times. Here we are in Jan of 2022, and I think the pricing is changing a LOT. A 100W Raycus Fiber Laser is now about the same price as a 50W MOPA. I know I'm going to want color if I don't have it, but a faster laser running 2x the power would also be nice. I'm in analysis paralysis!
It can definitely be hard too choose. Just know the MOPA colors are extremely inconsistent, difficult to master, and no one will be able to help you because variables like the temperature of the room can effect the outcome. Very steep learning curve.
I didn't have this information when i bought my machine but it looks like the research I did payed off. 100 watt JPT MOPA split from MORN. It works well from what I know how to do and this channel is helping a bunch!! Now I just need to do the conversion from the library you gave us for my machine and figure out the Q plus width setting. Thanks again!!!
Having never used or seen a fiber laser in action only on UA-cam I have decide to purchase one to hopefully enhance the Fountain pens I make, so I have taken your advice and ordered a Cloudray 50w JPT as you recommend them highly, at the age of 70 I think I will be seeking advice in abundance, Thank You.
Great breakdown. I wish This video existed a couple years ago when I bought my 30w JPT MOPA. I could have saved a lot of money sticking with a standard, but I was sold on the colors before I knew the beautiful photos shown of color where taken at very specific viewing angles.
All i need to know is what would be good for clean detailed scroll work on SS ? Yes I’m talking about firearms. My thinking is if I purchase a machine that can do that without issue , it can do a lot more I may need- various text, knotwork,simple images simply . I’m assuming there’s been improvements since 2021 also.
This is a great. Thank you so much. Any idea what I need for engraving polyurethane thermoplastic material. This are for for medical and dental applications.
I think Raycus product is mostly at 1000w level, with wave length at 1080nm, which is 285M Hz frequency. User can easy blind himself even with eyes closed, even only facing the light spot on the wall. It is not for hobbyist.
Hi Alex, FYI, I purchased a Mactron JPT 50w laser. I checked the model number of the laser source: YDFLP-E-50-LP-L-R. I did a search for that model number and it is listed as a MOPA pulse fiber laser. This appears to be the source when ordering the JPT. Thought you could use that bit of info with your recommendations. The case appears to be the same build quality as your new CO2 galvo unit. Thumbs up for Mactron for constantly improving their product line.
Yep all JPT are technically mopa on some crazy science level I don't understand. The LP series is what we would consider q-switch though. Solid standard unit. Glad you got the updated casing. It really is nice and shiny huh? Can't wait to oogle at it some more tomorrow!
That's interesting and I must investigate further as my "non-MOPA" JPT 50 will produce various colours in steel. Hearing that this feature is unique to mopa makes me wonder. (pleasantly).
Hello. I can confirm that with a 30w Raycus you can anneal steel with the right settings, deep back and fast. Actually, i have hot Mopa 60w and the black isn't deep black as than with raycus
@@LaserEverything Any idea how many passes it would require? I'm looking into a fiber laser, any idea if Biss Fiber lasers arw good?On the other hand they make a desk top wet jet cutters for 9g. I'm blown away at how much commercial wet jet cutters go for 80g, 150g, 250,000.
What I’m looking is a laser that can cut really thin metal for watch parts with precision! Could recommend or do a video about something like that? I don’t need to thick metal!
Thanks for all you did .. I am so happy to see all your videos, you making it usually. its very usful and teaching others. its so genius and helpfull. Wish i know most of this infomation befoer buying my fiber laser. waiting for you to buy the UV laser and start your journy of expermets .. good luck Bro.
We're getting really close on the patreon! Hopefully we will be able to pick the UV up soon and we can get started down that road as well. Thanks for your unwavering support Daifallah!
Firearms are actually pretty easy to work with so you should be able to use just about any system. It's more about the size of the parts you want to mark. The larger you want to do in one shot the more power you'll have to have to drive the larger lenses.
So I have a limited budget. I can afford either a 50w JPT or a 30W JPT mopa. The color aspect is very cool, but the 50 is faster and can deeper engrave, right? Any advice? Thanks.
My friend, do you use an outlet plug of 220 volts or 120 volts because in China they use 220V and the videos they show us are of a fibre laser with a 220 volt power? Only 120V is used in the United States and Canada. Unless you have a 220 to 250V special outlet installed. Also if a 120V 50W fiber laser was to vs a 220V 50W fiber laser what would be the difference in terms of engraving on jewellery metal and quality of products etc....
We use 120v. There's no difference in terms of the actual engraving. The 120v systems pull more current to meet the wattage spec but it doesn't effect the operation of the laser or what they're capable of, since everything is transformed by PSU's to DC inside the machine anyway.
I purchased a 50w raycus qb fiber laser marking machine 8 month ago and 2 days ago it just stopped working so i took it to the seller and he said that the laser source is burnt and there is no warranty for that, i never used it for more than 6 hours a day and never used power more than 95% ,please tell me how did it got burnt and what's the meaning of that. I am helpless right now😔😔 it's only been 8 month. Is there a way to repair that laser? Please reply
That response doesn't really make any sense to me Mohd and the source should absolutely be covered under the warranty so that's a scam. Please join either our discord or facebook group (there's links in the video description) and make a post so we can take a closer look at what might be going on.
I don’t have a fiber laser so I cannot check this but I had a thought that since borax is sodium-based (a metal ) Wood or birch plywood treated with borax might react to a fiber laser engraving. Could somebody, back thank you
I'll check it out and see if it helps. If it does it's a work around, still won't provide anything near the results you're going to get with a laser designed for organics.
What do you suggest? I want one of hobbies small stuff but also need to engrave handguns and rifle parts. And glass. Maybe cut wood if anything but over all what’s the best one in your thought?
Maybe or probably it's a dumb question, but, I want to know as much as possible. I saw how the fiber laser machines how can they work, and, of course, the galvanometer is the optimal way to mark fast or engrave using the fiber laser beam. But, what happen if I want to mark multiple drawings over a stainless steel sheet, 2.44m * 1.20m (for example), the station's space is not enough to be possible to work these dimensions. If I want to build a cnc machine, can I just buy the fiber laser source and "power on" / "power off" when it's required according to my motion requirements ?. I don't know if it's mandatory to buy and use the control board included with the portable or workstation versions to be possible for me to control the fiber laser according to my needs (enable/disable the power beam required), and I don't know if I can ignore the presence of the galvo and use only the fiber source and execute some testings (assuming I can control it without issues). I don't know if with some changes, "S" parameters inside gcode can be changed and assuming there is some kind of bridge between the motion controller and the fiber laser (with or without it's original controller) it could be possible to "invoke" the required power beam. ¿ "Pros" and "cons" about this ?. I'll appreciate any comment that you can give me... I'm just trying to figure out if it can be possible. Thanks in advance !
It's possible but reflecting 1064 in a gantry system is kind of a rare special use case. Epilog does it best with their Epilog Fusion machines which come in very large bed sizes. I'd look into a system like that if you need to work on spaces that large.
Hey Alex, I really appreciate all of this information. Truly and amazing wealth of knowledge. I have been following you for some time, but never purchased. I recently (impulsively) purchased a Laser Pecker 2. It was a good little machine but can’t even get close to what I want to do. To keep story short I returned it and am looking at at fiber laser with atleast a 30w raycus. What’s your thoughts on Omtech and Monport? They seem pretty reasonable on price and I’m really trying to stay on the lower end of budget. Thank you in advance!
I haven't had my hands on either of those lasers unfortunately. We do have a buying guide on our website with machines we have in our shop and can recommend.
Expensive items will have import duties depending on your country. Make sure you are aware of what taxes will be charged for importing high ticket items. In the US generally you will pay 20 - 30% of the sticker price in import duty. Generally the manufacturers lower the price on the shipping invoice to help soften the blow but it isn't consistent. The main benefit of importing your own machine isn't that it's necessarily cheaper, though it often is - it's more that you have that connection and relationship with a manufacturer rather than a reseller and can customize the machines to your liking rather than buying from warehouse stock.
Most fiber lasers these days come with rotary tools to do round items. Fiber lasers can mark any metal. You can find our updated list of recommended machines at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide :D
The Mactron is always my recommendation. JPT for high frequency and 50w is good for defeating precious metal reflections. Link in the description or check out the laser page on my website for more info www.lasereverything.net/lasers
30w - 50w should be fine for that application. All of our reviewed recommended brands can be found at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide/ Highly recommend checking it out!
Depends on what you plan to use it for honestly. If you need raw power I'd go with the Raycus. If you want more fidelity I'd go with the JPT. Either will be great though. If I just had to pick right now without more info I'd probably go with the JPT.
Everything Trotec produces is proprietary. While they may use some common laser sources, their controllers and supporting hardware are required in order to take advantage of their software so unfortunately the answer is unlikely.
Hello, can you speak to units for "laser cleaning" technology? I have a specialized application for removing mineral deposits from ceramic and/or cementeous surfaces without etching the substrate. The German IPG sounds intriguing as the ability to choose color would be valuable not to mention integrity of beam. Manufacturer(s) you'd suggest?
Yeah you could theoretically turn the galvo head upside down on your unit. Doesn't really matter which direction the galvo head is pointing, the light doesn't care what direction it's shooting.
I have one question I would like to understand, can this fiber laser engrave on acrylic or clear painted acrylic or white painted acrylic to obtain that backlight?
We have a decent one linked on www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide The hard thing about the fume extractors is that they're constantly coming in and going out of stock so it's hard to make a consistent recommendation for that reason. Just about any basic fume extractor like the one listed will get the job done for fibers though.
Thank you very much for the great videos. I am researching a fiber and OMTech says their 80w frequency is 1-4000khz. Is this just very optimistic marketing ?
It depends on the laser source inside the machine. I'd steer clear of the OMTechs. The quality control is all over the place some units are perfect and some are a mess. If you haven't check out the buying guide over at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide for some reviewed trustworthy units we've physically tested and operated.
You shouldn't unless it's really really hot. Like 90+ F I would consider it. Make sure the vents are clear and the fans on your system are all working but it should be okay.
Could you help me with getting the best laser for my application. I make silver hand pours and am looking to engrave portraits on the bars and don't have a clue what to get.
For silver you really want to be looking at 50w+ as it will reflect a ton of the 1064nm laser light. All of our reviewed recommended brands can be found at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide/ Highly recommend checking it out!
For precious metals you really want to be looking at 50w+ as they will reflect a ton of the 1064nm laser light. All of our reviewed recommended brands can be found at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide/ Highly recommend checking it out! For cutting 1mm sheet I'd really be looking at 50w + options, even then these lasers aren't really designed for cutting so expect it to be a long wait - will take patience.
I have a nice price for a JPT MOPA 60w engraving machine. If I am correct the MOPA can do anything a Fiber laser can do, just that it also offers some additional settings like the pulse width? I am mainly interested in black engravings on steel. I just want to be sure that i am not buying something that will not be so powerful for black as lets say a 50w raycust or an ordinary jpt laser? Thanks. also, ofcourse i want to experiment with colors on steel in the future.
@@LaserEverything thanks. i am considering 60w jpt vs 80w jpt - what can 80w do what 60w cannot? are there any disadvantages of more power? (finesse,beam width or something like this?)
I'd check out the 50w JPT LP or 60w JPT M7 units from Mactron, we have links in the description. Great machines, a little more expensive but high quality and still way cheaper than domestic units.
Hi. I am just starting out, so support is going to be key. I will need hands on training and someone to be able to answer questions in the beginnig. Which company has the best and most accessible tech support?
You're going to pay a pretty extreme premium if you aren't willing to learn from the community but you could check out San Antonio Laser Engraving or Laguna Tools.
Thanks for the very useful video. Can you please share what is the red machine behinde you? I'm looking for a non-commercial fiber laser that's attached to a cnc machine. Anything you can recommend?
That red machine in the video is an OMtech co2 gantry laser, not fiber. In terms of lasers, there aren't really many (or any to be honest) that would be considered non-commercial. Gantry style fiber engravers or cutters are typically going to very well land in industrial/commercial, not sure if you're trying to avoid something specific. The fiber engravers are pretty niche, omtech did carry them for a while but it seems they've discontinued their old line, though their pro line may have a dual source setup with a co2 and fiber. Light Object also carries a dual type gantry laser. Outside of those two options, would be Epilog, but you'll likely be paying 2x or more than those two options. The cutters will generally be much higher wattage and require assist gasses like oxygen / nitrogen. There are now some gantry diode module based fiber wavelength options if you just want to do basic marking. We're looking into maybe checking some of those options out in the future, but don't have a lot of details at the moment, but that would maybe get you further out of the commercial tag.
@@LaserEverything thank you very much for the info.I'm looking for the metal cutting application. I looked at Omtech pro but they don't seem to be able to cut aluminum. The next option I'm looking into is Kern but I guess similar to epilog, they are very pricy. I appreciate it if you can share any information on cutting aluminium and aluminum composit panels.
I am looking a purchasing the Mactron 30W JPT Fiber Laser. What size table should I get, 70mm, 110mm, 160mm, or the 200mm. What lens should I request also? Thanks for any help that can be given.
get one lens with your mactron fiber, doesn't really matter which, then get the rest from cloudray I recommend starting with a 110 on the 30w that's my daily driver the rest you can get from the links on the buying guide www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide for a Mactron unit you want the "Standard" lenses not the OPEX
Hi your information is really helping me in deciding which laser to get which is currently in my Amazon account waiting on funding. What computer should I buy to run this laser with as I want to buy one just for this machine thank you!
@@LaserEverything Thank you for your note. I have been looking at them, however, quality of the engraving is not good (and the high quality leads to very expensive CO2 machines) and portability is almost zero. We were thinking of taking the laser machine to events . Thanks you for any addtional tip you may give me . Have agreat day
The only other option would be a desktop CO2 gantry machine. You can get away with doing it on the fiber but I don't recommend it unless you have absolutely zero other options. The learning curve is much higher.
I see plenty of product listings by Cloudray that describe the laser type they sell as "Raycus JPT" ... I'm confused, I was under the impression by your video that Raycus is one type and JPT is another? Please clarify if you can. I am possibly buying off of Amazon in order to take advantage of Prime type financial advantages.
You have to go out of your way to ask them now for a specific source. It's annoying. These guys were doing ok when I produced this but they've gotten a lot bigger lately and their customer service has been rapidly declining the last few months. I've been hearing a lot of complaints. I'd look elsewhere.
The only laser I'd check out as of right now would be one of the EM-Smart units. Get as much wattage as you can afford. That's as small as I'd go. Jewelry can be particularly reflective and can require very focused power to ablate sometimes. Here's a link to our review of the Basic 2R: ua-cam.com/video/er8vi_uCcgY/v-deo.html
I Just ordered a Cloudray fiber laser marker with a 30W JPT LP-series laser source, and are a bit confused. Is the JPT LP-series a MOPA laser? If it is a MOPA laser, it seem to me that JPT only make MOPA lasers. What is the different then between the LP series and the M7 series?
While the LP units use MOPA technology to manage their frequencies, the pulse duration is locked at 200ns. With an M7 that pulse duration is unlocked and a new variable is able to be changed. LP units are not "true" MOPA lasers in practice.
Thank You so much for explaining in such a Simple, Lucid and easy flowing manner. Our company delivers fully machined cast parts weighing a few grams to over 9000 lbs single piece in fully machined / finished condition. For very large Heavy Parts which do not fit on the table and can only be placed on the Floor, How do we engrave a QR Code on them using a Portable Split System. Thank You in advance...
If you want to do a significant amount of metal cutting at volume, a small metal cutter might be a better move due to more efficient cutting + compressed gasses for assisting the cut (though thats another cost to consider). If you're okay with going slower with a galvo but cutting is a significant amount of your workload, consider 60w+ to help cut down on time investment and help with lens selection (which can also improve your focal range and depth) as you can use more power and increase speed to get through the cut faster sometimes. If cutting is less frequent but still happens often enough to be a concern, I wouldn't suggest going lower than 50w.
@@LaserEverythingthank you- what do you mean by “a small metal cutter”? This is a different type of laser? Any details would be helpful, appreciate it and all you do!
Gantry fiber (fiber cutter or metal cutter, often used interchangeably) with gas assist would be ideal for bulk cutting metal and especially better suited for it, where a galvo fiber would be ideal for engraving.
@@LaserEverything Thanks for the fast reply! Ah ok, I didn't realize the titles were used interchangeably. I was actually looking into this the other day and couldn't find an answer, so since we're at it I'll ask- why are gantry fibers better for bulk cutting? (Fwiw- I'm close to buying a fiber laser for mostly cutting of jewelry out of .6mm-.9mm sterling silver and brass. Will probably go with a 100w JPT MOPA. But if things take off and we get into heavier production I'm curious what the options are)
My working area is ranging from 50mm L X 50mm W up to 300mm L X 300mm W on the minimum of a 0.2mm thick copper sheet. Can I engrave using only a 50W lens on various sheets without cutting through or do I have to change lens accordingly?
Gold is really reflective. I'd recommend at least a 30w. The 20w will do it but it will struggle. I always recommend the Mactrons which are linked in the description!
i have been looking for a laser engrave machine for my jewelry business . in which i mostly be using 5 to 6 inches area and mostly sterling silver and stainless steel will be my material . i might like to cut out 1mm sheet of these metals too. can you give me a advice which will be good for me in both money saving and in long term jewelry business ?
All of our reviewed recommended brands can be found at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide/ Highly recommend checking it out! For cutting 1mm sheet I'd really be looking at 50w + options, even then these lasers aren't really designed for cutting so expect it to be a long wait - will take patience.
@@LaserEverything you are very helpful thanks! Just another question: Are MOPA and q-switch lasers (raycus) the same in speed for engraving deep black engravings? If I understand this correctly the MOPA is only slow in color engraving but the BLACK engravings go similar fast as other fiber lasers? im talking about a 60w machine. thanks.
Mostly good information; however, there are important details missing. More important than the laser power is the per-pulse energy (PPE). PPE tells you more about the laser than just how much energy is in each pulse. Generally speaking, a laser with a PPE of under 1mJ indicates inferior fiber; the pulse energy is managed to reduce the liklihood of fiber damage caused by the laser being absorbed by fiber impurities. How do you know what the PPE of the laser is if it's not listed in the specification sheet? Divide the maximum power by the lowest Pulse Repetition Frequency (PRF) for a Q-switched laser (optimum pulse repetition frequency (PRFo) for MOPA), and you get the approximate PPE, i.e., 20W / 20,000 = 0.001J = 1mJ. I would not buy a fiber laser that has a PPE under 1mJ.
Another advantage MOPA has over a Q-switched fiber laser is the ability to go below the optimized pulse repetition frequency (PRFo). PRFo is the frequency where both pulse energy and power are at their maximum. Below PRFo, power is reduced approximately linearily, and pulse energy is usually capped at the maximum (fun fact, in diode-pumped open-air lasers, pulse energy increases below PRFo). Since we consider power to be "heat", we're effectively engraving with a lower heat affected zone (HAZ), which means better cuts--typically we want high PPE to engrave, and power (heat) to mark/anneal. Combine this with the ability to modify the pulse width, or the time each pulse interacts with the material, and we have complete control over the application.
Why can't you anneal with a Raycus laser? The IPG laser systems Control Laser Corporation (CLC) was selling when IPG came out with their 20-Watt laser came with a Linos 254mm Focal Length (FL) lens, having a 7-inch field. These are 1mJ lasers, and are very capable of annealing with the correct parameters. I would argue that the Raycus systems likely have a cheap Opex lens, and this, combined with the low PPE is why these lasers have difficulties annealing. The Opex lens resolving power is crap; there is no discernable airy disc with these lenses; the laser is diffused too much, causing energy density to suffer. A Linos or Rofin-Sinar lens, having that large 120mm output lens, have wonderful resolving power, and this is why the IPG 20Watt laser, having a maximum frequency of 40kHz, can anneal all day long without problems. Yes, the Linos lens is about $1,600 more than the ~$50 Opex lens, but when you consider that you need to add more power with the Opex lens to get the same effect (energy density) as the Linos lens, it's cheaper to buy an expensive lens than to buy a laser with more power. Also important is the size of the laser beam going into the focus lens, as this is one of the parameters to the spot size algorithm. If the beam is small going into the lens, the spot will be large, i.e., low energy density. However, if the beam is large going into the focus lens, the spot will be small, high energy density. So, it's important to consider the complete system when talking about capabilities and applications, and comparing between systems. Stick a Linos lens on that Raycus, expand the beam to 8mm, and see what happens!
Finally, I want to clarify that IPG is originally a Russian company, that moved the headquarters to Massachusetts to have a better political environment to operate in. Yes, there are factories in Germany, and still in Russia, and yes, those Chinese systems that claim to have IPG lasers in them are really IPG lasers (manufactured in Russia). Most general purpose fiber lasers from IPG are manufactured in Germany, and I think that's what you meant to say; i.e., the German IPG fiber is the holy grail of q-switched fiber lasers. (For MOPA, SPI Lasers, now part of Trumpf, is the equivalent).
-Laser-Lance (AKA Vasily Basov, former employee of Control Laser Corporation, part of Hans Laser, China)
Awesome info Lance, thanks! I'll pin this for everyone to read!
any relation to Nikolai Basov?
Lance, So after everything you said, is there a laser you would reccomend instead? Is there one that is strong enought o engrave in metal and softer materials like wood? And any of them have US support?
Thanks so much in advance!
You're not going to find a laser that specializes in engraving wood and metal. CO2 lasers are used to engrave organics like wood acrylic glass and leather, fiber lasers are used to engrave inorganics like steel aluminum brass and copper.
Awesome info dear
I'm about to purchase one and they said laser source is Max and JPT and laser frequency is 20 - 80 kHz with cost 1500$
I have no idea but now I realized that I have to search for another, thank you for saving our time and sharing those details,
Check out the buying guide for some quality options, link in the description.
Terrific video. You’re supplying people with limited laser knowledge with exactly the information they need to make an informed choice.
Glad it helped, thanks for the positive feedback!
I know it's the end of 2022 now, but I just purchased a brand new 30W Raycus Fiber Laser with a 200x200mm lense for $1,600 and free shipping from the USA! The seller was asking $1,800 obo on eBay for it because the Z Axis focus knob had gotten broken off during handling but they assumed the rest of the machine functions as intended and nothing else was damaged, so I offered $1,600 and they accept and they are even going to ship out a new focus knob for it. Honestly I'm not even worried about the knob as it looks like I'll be able to 3D print a knob for it no problem. And at the price I paid, that easily leaves me plenty of money to pick up a rotary and a smaller lens or two.
Glad you found a good deal on a used unit!
I have a 30 wat Max for over a year from HL Laser, no problems at all with the source.
Nice! Glad you had a good experience!
This is a great video and I've referred to it several times. Here we are in Jan of 2022, and I think the pricing is changing a LOT. A 100W Raycus Fiber Laser is now about the same price as a 50W MOPA. I know I'm going to want color if I don't have it, but a faster laser running 2x the power would also be nice. I'm in analysis paralysis!
It can definitely be hard too choose. Just know the MOPA colors are extremely inconsistent, difficult to master, and no one will be able to help you because variables like the temperature of the room can effect the outcome. Very steep learning curve.
I didn't have this information when i bought my machine but it looks like the research I did payed off. 100 watt JPT MOPA split from MORN. It works well from what I know how to do and this channel is helping a bunch!! Now I just need to do the conversion from the library you gave us for my machine and figure out the Q plus width setting. Thanks again!!!
Always happy to help, glad you got value out of it!
Having never used or seen a fiber laser in action only on UA-cam I have decide to purchase one to hopefully enhance the Fountain pens I make, so I have taken your advice and ordered a Cloudray 50w JPT as you recommend them highly, at the age of 70 I think I will be seeking advice in abundance, Thank You.
Glad you made a purchase you're happy with, excited for you to get your new laser!
have 50 watt Fibre and 50watt CO2 and both are very very good, the 50 watt Fibre can and has easily burnt through stainless steel
Excellent!
What do you think of the EM Smart One Laser?
Great informative video in 2023 too. Looking for a Fiber laser for jewlery, i will go for the 30w and 110mm lens to do the job. Thank you!
Great breakdown. I wish This video existed a couple years ago when I bought my 30w JPT MOPA. I could have saved a lot of money sticking with a standard, but I was sold on the colors before I knew the beautiful photos shown of color where taken at very specific viewing angles.
Yeah it's a bummer and definitely something everyone needs to know before spending that ridiculous amount of money.
All i need to know is what would be good for clean detailed scroll work on SS ? Yes I’m talking about firearms. My thinking is if I purchase a machine that can do that without issue , it can do a lot more I may need- various text, knotwork,simple images simply . I’m assuming there’s been improvements since 2021 also.
Great Information. My question is what laser you would recommend buying to engrave on golf clubs??
A 30 or 50w fiber laser would do well. Check out some of the links in the buying guide over at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide/
What is the difference between the Q, QS, QE, and QB series of Raycus lasers?
I don't have a ton of experience with Raycus sources but you can definitely get that question answered in our Discord server: discord.gg/dvu8PFjW
You have no idea how much you have clarified for me these options. I now know exactly what I need. Thank you so much! 👍
So glad it helped you Sanusi, let me know if you have any other questions!
Why do some lasers have just a red box preview while others show the entire design in the red light preview?
Just check the box that says "Show Contour" down by the Light and Mark buttons! :)
This is a great. Thank you so much. Any idea what I need for engraving polyurethane thermoplastic material. This are for for medical and dental applications.
I think Raycus product is mostly at 1000w level, with wave length at 1080nm, which is 285M Hz frequency. User can easy blind himself even with eyes closed, even only facing the light spot on the wall. It is not for hobbyist.
Their cutting sources sure, but they make way lower powered pulsed sources for this application as well from 20-100w
Portable laser weld machine? Any example to read more info? Interested
What would you recommend for polymer. Kydex. Injection molds. I make custom holsters and want to put my logo on the clips and belt loops.
Sounds like a lot of plastics, in which case I'd be looking at a UV laser. 3-5w should do the trick.
@@LaserEverything so will the have the same affect to a p mag that you had with the gray tan and brown.
Hi Alex, FYI, I purchased a Mactron JPT 50w laser. I checked the model number of the laser source: YDFLP-E-50-LP-L-R. I did a search for that model number and it is listed as a MOPA pulse fiber laser. This appears to be the source when ordering the JPT. Thought you could use that bit of info with your recommendations. The case appears to be the same build quality as your new CO2 galvo unit. Thumbs up for Mactron for constantly improving their product line.
Yep all JPT are technically mopa on some crazy science level I don't understand. The LP series is what we would consider q-switch though. Solid standard unit. Glad you got the updated casing. It really is nice and shiny huh? Can't wait to oogle at it some more tomorrow!
That's interesting and I must investigate further as my "non-MOPA" JPT 50 will produce various colours in steel. Hearing that this feature is unique to mopa makes me wonder. (pleasantly).
great video but please drop the music in the background.
An old old video - music was rough in this one - we've since left it out our kept it SIGNIFICANTLY lower in our newer videos. :)
Hello. I can confirm that with a 30w Raycus you can anneal steel with the right settings, deep back and fast. Actually, i have hot Mopa 60w and the black isn't deep black as than with raycus
Nice, you should join the discord and share your settings with the community! :)
@@LaserEverything hi, i send you private mail .
hi your video has helped me a lot in selecting the right laser. i think that the 50 watt jpt laser is the best
The best all arounder for the average user for sure!
Very helpful video about laser marking machine using methods
Thanks a lot
Can we “cut” metals that are around .02 thick with a fiber laser? Great video btw.
.02 doable but it takes a while. Galvo lasers aren't designed for cutting.
@@LaserEverything Any idea how many passes it would require? I'm looking into a fiber laser, any idea if Biss Fiber lasers arw good?On the other hand they make a desk top wet jet cutters for 9g. I'm blown away at how much commercial wet jet cutters go for 80g, 150g, 250,000.
What I’m looking is a laser that can cut really thin metal for watch parts with precision! Could recommend or do a video about something like that? I don’t need to thick metal!
30w or 50w laser should be fine depending on the metal. Small cuts on thin metal are easy for most fiber lasers.
Just got my Fiber laser last Friday. Raycus laser with 20 to 60 range
Congratulations!
This is super helpful. I almost bought the wrong laser had it not been for this vid. Thanks!
Glad it helped, starting to be outdated - will have to update soon ;)
@@LaserEverything I have notifications on so when it gets dropped I'll be sure to watch it. Looking forward to it.
Thanks for all you did .. I am so happy to see all your videos, you making it usually. its very usful and teaching others. its so genius and helpfull. Wish i know most of this infomation befoer buying my fiber laser. waiting for you to buy the UV laser and start your journy of expermets .. good luck Bro.
We're getting really close on the patreon! Hopefully we will be able to pick the UV up soon and we can get started down that road as well. Thanks for your unwavering support Daifallah!
What should I get if I want to start engraving firearms including rifles
Firearms are actually pretty easy to work with so you should be able to use just about any system. It's more about the size of the parts you want to mark. The larger you want to do in one shot the more power you'll have to have to drive the larger lenses.
Where can you just buy a 50w laser and power supply by it self?
I already have a CNC table I want to use, but don’t need a separate machine.
You could check out wavetopsign on aliexpress. They're my favorite vendor for sources and power supplies.
So I have a limited budget. I can afford either a 50w JPT or a 30W JPT mopa. The color aspect is very cool, but the 50 is faster and can deeper engrave, right? Any advice? Thanks.
Correct, and personally I'd go for the 50w LP any day over the 30w M7 if those were my options.
Another fantastic post. I’m not flooded with info. Until I found you it was an info desert.
Glad it's helping you! ☺️ Thanks for watching!
Learned a lot. Saved the video and subscribed. Thank you.
Thanks for the sub! Glad you're getting use out of the content Mark!
What are your thoughts on the color fiber laser systems
Overrated and extremely difficult to master.
My friend, do you use an outlet plug of 220 volts or 120 volts because in China they use 220V and the videos they show us are of a fibre laser with a 220 volt power? Only 120V is used in the United States and Canada. Unless you have a 220 to 250V special outlet installed. Also if a 120V 50W fiber laser was to vs a 220V 50W fiber laser what would be the difference in terms of engraving on jewellery metal and quality of products etc....
We use 120v. There's no difference in terms of the actual engraving. The 120v systems pull more current to meet the wattage spec but it doesn't effect the operation of the laser or what they're capable of, since everything is transformed by PSU's to DC inside the machine anyway.
I purchased a 50w raycus qb fiber laser marking machine 8 month ago and 2 days ago it just stopped working so i took it to the seller and he said that the laser source is burnt and there is no warranty for that, i never used it for more than 6 hours a day and never used power more than 95% ,please tell me how did it got burnt and what's the meaning of that. I am helpless right now😔😔 it's only been 8 month. Is there a way to repair that laser? Please reply
That response doesn't really make any sense to me Mohd and the source should absolutely be covered under the warranty so that's a scam. Please join either our discord or facebook group (there's links in the video description) and make a post so we can take a closer look at what might be going on.
I don’t have a fiber laser so I cannot check this but I had a thought that since borax is sodium-based (a metal )
Wood or birch plywood treated with borax might react to a fiber laser engraving.
Could somebody, back thank you
I'll check it out and see if it helps. If it does it's a work around, still won't provide anything near the results you're going to get with a laser designed for organics.
What do you suggest? I want one of hobbies small stuff but also need to engrave handguns and rifle parts. And glass. Maybe cut wood if anything but over all what’s the best one in your thought?
Hello what are the parameters laser on Tc,laser off Tc,end Tc,polygon Tc,please help me,thanks
Those are called laser timing settings, check out this great video by JefferyJ on the topic: ua-cam.com/video/KKmpiMiHXjg/v-deo.html
Maybe or probably it's a dumb question, but, I want to know as much as possible.
I saw how the fiber laser machines how can they work, and, of course, the galvanometer is the optimal way to mark fast or engrave using the fiber laser beam.
But, what happen if I want to mark multiple drawings over a stainless steel sheet, 2.44m * 1.20m (for example), the station's space is not enough to be possible to work these dimensions.
If I want to build a cnc machine, can I just buy the fiber laser source and "power on" / "power off" when it's required according to my motion requirements ?.
I don't know if it's mandatory to buy and use the control board included with the portable or workstation versions to be possible for me to control the fiber laser
according to my needs (enable/disable the power beam required), and I don't know if I can ignore the presence of the galvo and use only the fiber source
and execute some testings (assuming I can control it without issues).
I don't know if with some changes, "S" parameters inside gcode can be changed and assuming there is some kind of bridge between the motion controller and the fiber laser (with or without it's original controller) it could be possible to "invoke" the required power beam.
¿ "Pros" and "cons" about this ?. I'll appreciate any comment that you can give me... I'm just trying to figure out if it can be possible. Thanks in advance !
It's possible but reflecting 1064 in a gantry system is kind of a rare special use case. Epilog does it best with their Epilog Fusion machines which come in very large bed sizes. I'd look into a system like that if you need to work on spaces that large.
@@LaserEverything Thanks for the info !
Hey Alex, I really appreciate all of this information. Truly and amazing wealth of knowledge. I have been following you for some time, but never purchased. I recently (impulsively) purchased a Laser Pecker 2. It was a good little machine but can’t even get close to what I want to do. To keep story short I returned it and am looking at at fiber laser with atleast a 30w raycus. What’s your thoughts on Omtech and Monport? They seem pretty reasonable on price and I’m really trying to stay on the lower end of budget. Thank you in advance!
I haven't had my hands on either of those lasers unfortunately. We do have a buying guide on our website with machines we have in our shop and can recommend.
I'm looking for a low-cost recommendation for a laser to mark 1" tungsten carbide tool bits. Which one should I purchase?.
You aren't going to go crazy deep super fast, but something like the 30w mactron linked in the description would be sufficient.
Is there a down side to ordering from Ali express? Other than the shipping time?
Expensive items will have import duties depending on your country. Make sure you are aware of what taxes will be charged for importing high ticket items. In the US generally you will pay 20 - 30% of the sticker price in import duty. Generally the manufacturers lower the price on the shipping invoice to help soften the blow but it isn't consistent. The main benefit of importing your own machine isn't that it's necessarily cheaper, though it often is - it's more that you have that connection and relationship with a manufacturer rather than a reseller and can customize the machines to your liking rather than buying from warehouse stock.
A sua 30w?
What will it be good mainly for imprinting stainless steel/metal bracelets? Do you recommend something else? Can you do on a round surface like cups?
Most fiber lasers these days come with rotary tools to do round items. Fiber lasers can mark any metal.
You can find our updated list of recommended machines at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide :D
I plan to buy one for jewelry business, I looking for less complicate to use and which watts you recommend and brand with good price? Thank you.
The Mactron is always my recommendation. JPT for high frequency and 50w is good for defeating precious metal reflections. Link in the description or check out the laser page on my website for more info
www.lasereverything.net/lasers
I need it for gold cutting bangles how much power i should go far. Also can I use this with galvo head
GREAT VIDEO sir... would like to have your recommendation what fiber laser to get... application would be... inside engraving of rings... tnx
30w - 50w should be fine for that application.
All of our reviewed recommended brands can be found at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide/
Highly recommend checking it out!
Have you tried color laser engraving? How does the piece engraved with color react to rust and corrosion?
Color markings if not properly sealed can be significantly more prone to rust and currosion than your typical laser mark.
Would you get a 30W JPT laser or a 50W Raycus laser?
Depends on what you plan to use it for honestly. If you need raw power I'd go with the Raycus. If you want more fidelity I'd go with the JPT. Either will be great though. If I just had to pick right now without more info I'd probably go with the JPT.
Hello Alex, I have a little question for you. Can I know what the laser machine will be to customize credit cards? Please...
Hi, I don't personally do this but there's people posting about it on our FB group and Discord! You can try there!
Thank you
So is Trotec Sppedmark fiber lasers just a raycus rebranded and utilizing their software?
Is there a way to use speedmark with a raycus laser?
Everything Trotec produces is proprietary. While they may use some common laser sources, their controllers and supporting hardware are required in order to take advantage of their software so unfortunately the answer is unlikely.
Hello, can you speak to units for "laser cleaning" technology?
I have a specialized application for removing mineral deposits from ceramic and/or cementeous surfaces without etching the substrate.
The German IPG sounds intriguing as the ability to choose color would be valuable not to mention integrity of beam.
Manufacturer(s) you'd suggest?
Can a split system fiber laser shoot "upward" so as to mark (engrave) the underside of a steel welding table (IOW, rotate head 180 up)? 🤔
Yeah you could theoretically turn the galvo head upside down on your unit. Doesn't really matter which direction the galvo head is pointing, the light doesn't care what direction it's shooting.
Can you recommend me a mopa machine for starters? Thanks
I have one question I would like to understand, can this fiber laser engrave on acrylic or clear painted acrylic or white painted acrylic to obtain that backlight?
wow.. now I understand some of it. I almost purchase the cheaper ones.. now I can reconsider it . 👍 thanks
Hello. Can you please give some info on the medically used Thulium Fiber Lasers
Unfortunately I have never used one of those and don't own one so I don't think I can be of much help :/
Could you recommend a fume Purifier for 30w fiber laser
We have a decent one linked on www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide The hard thing about the fume extractors is that they're constantly coming in and going out of stock so it's hard to make a consistent recommendation for that reason. Just about any basic fume extractor like the one listed will get the job done for fibers though.
Thank you very much for the great videos.
I am researching a fiber and OMTech says their 80w frequency is 1-4000khz.
Is this just very optimistic marketing ?
It depends on the laser source inside the machine. I'd steer clear of the OMTechs. The quality control is all over the place some units are perfect and some are a mess. If you haven't check out the buying guide over at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide for some reviewed trustworthy units we've physically tested and operated.
Can annealing be achieved with a 30 watt JPT Fiber machine or does it have to be a 50 watt machine or higher?
Absolutely. 30w works fine!
@@LaserEverything Thank you so much for responding. I really appreciate it.
You got it 🙂
Do we need air-conditioning while using a 50w JPT lazer machine?
You shouldn't unless it's really really hot. Like 90+ F I would consider it. Make sure the vents are clear and the fans on your system are all working but it should be okay.
Thanks a ton
Could you help me with getting the best laser for my application. I make silver hand pours and am looking to engrave portraits on the bars and don't have a clue what to get.
For silver you really want to be looking at 50w+ as it will reflect a ton of the 1064nm laser light.
All of our reviewed recommended brands can be found at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide/
Highly recommend checking it out!
Can I cut a 1 mm copper sheet with 50W Fiber Laser machine? what settings do you recommend?
I am looking for a cutter/engraver for sterling and fine silver, copper, brass, and gold sheet/jewellery. Any suggestions?
For precious metals you really want to be looking at 50w+ as they will reflect a ton of the 1064nm laser light.
All of our reviewed recommended brands can be found at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide/
Highly recommend checking it out! For cutting 1mm sheet I'd really be looking at 50w + options, even then these lasers aren't really designed for cutting so expect it to be a long wait - will take patience.
Great info vids for sure, really cleared up some questions I had. Editing was spot on with the dual audio as well.
Glad it helped you out :D Thanks for the feedback!
I have a nice price for a JPT MOPA 60w engraving machine. If I am correct the MOPA can do anything a Fiber laser can do, just that it also offers some additional settings like the pulse width? I am mainly interested in black engravings on steel. I just want to be sure that i am not buying something that will not be so powerful for black as lets say a 50w raycust or an ordinary jpt laser? Thanks. also, ofcourse i want to experiment with colors on steel in the future.
Hi Tim! Any fiber laser will be able to mark black on steel.
@@LaserEverything thanks. i am considering 60w jpt vs 80w jpt - what can 80w do what 60w cannot? are there any disadvantages of more power? (finesse,beam width or something like this?)
Hey, what would you recommend to cut silver and gold filled metal ? Thank you
I'd check out the 50w JPT LP or 60w JPT M7 units from Mactron, we have links in the description. Great machines, a little more expensive but high quality and still way cheaper than domestic units.
Thanks for the review, it really help clear many thing for getting into fiber laser
So glad it helped you!
Can a 60w mopa laser engraver do deep engraving just like a regular fiber laser just with the color options
Yes absolutely 100%
Hi. I am just starting out, so support is going to be key. I will need hands on training and someone to be able to answer questions in the beginnig. Which company has the best and most accessible tech support?
You're going to pay a pretty extreme premium if you aren't willing to learn from the community but you could check out San Antonio Laser Engraving or Laguna Tools.
Thanks for the very useful video. Can you please share what is the red machine behinde you? I'm looking for a non-commercial fiber laser that's attached to a cnc machine. Anything you can recommend?
That red machine in the video is an OMtech co2 gantry laser, not fiber. In terms of lasers, there aren't really many (or any to be honest) that would be considered non-commercial. Gantry style fiber engravers or cutters are typically going to very well land in industrial/commercial, not sure if you're trying to avoid something specific. The fiber engravers are pretty niche, omtech did carry them for a while but it seems they've discontinued their old line, though their pro line may have a dual source setup with a co2 and fiber. Light Object also carries a dual type gantry laser. Outside of those two options, would be Epilog, but you'll likely be paying 2x or more than those two options. The cutters will generally be much higher wattage and require assist gasses like oxygen / nitrogen.
There are now some gantry diode module based fiber wavelength options if you just want to do basic marking. We're looking into maybe checking some of those options out in the future, but don't have a lot of details at the moment, but that would maybe get you further out of the commercial tag.
@@LaserEverything thank you very much for the info.I'm looking for the metal cutting application. I looked at Omtech pro but they don't seem to be able to cut aluminum. The next option I'm looking into is Kern but I guess similar to epilog, they are very pricy. I appreciate it if you can share any information on cutting aluminium and aluminum composit panels.
what rotary tool do you like
I really like the rotary tools Mactron makes. I have a link to their shop in the description. They've worked really well for me.
I am looking a purchasing the Mactron 30W JPT Fiber Laser. What size table should I get, 70mm, 110mm, 160mm, or the 200mm. What lens should I request also?
Thanks for any help that can be given.
get one lens with your mactron fiber, doesn't really matter which, then get the rest from cloudray
I recommend starting with a 110 on the 30w that's my daily driver
the rest you can get from the links on the buying guide www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide for a Mactron unit you want the "Standard" lenses not the OPEX
Hi your information is really helping me in deciding which laser to get which is currently in my Amazon account waiting on funding. What computer should I buy to run this laser with as I want to buy one just for this machine thank you!
We have a few recommendations listed in the buying guide. There's a link in the description. I'd check that out.
Hey ! great video. If i would mainly for now engrave power coated bottles like Yeti....which machine would you recommend? Thanks you very much
Instead of a fiber I'd probably check out something like a CO2 galvo machine if that's your primary objective for engraving.
@@LaserEverything Thank you for your note. I have been looking at them, however, quality of the engraving is not good (and the high quality leads to very expensive CO2 machines) and portability is almost zero. We were thinking of taking the laser machine to events . Thanks you for any addtional tip you may give me . Have agreat day
The only other option would be a desktop CO2 gantry machine. You can get away with doing it on the fiber but I don't recommend it unless you have absolutely zero other options. The learning curve is much higher.
I see plenty of product listings by Cloudray that describe the laser type they sell as "Raycus JPT" ... I'm confused, I was under the impression by your video that Raycus is one type and JPT is another? Please clarify if you can. I am possibly buying off of Amazon in order to take advantage of Prime type financial advantages.
You have to go out of your way to ask them now for a specific source. It's annoying. These guys were doing ok when I produced this but they've gotten a lot bigger lately and their customer service has been rapidly declining the last few months. I've been hearing a lot of complaints. I'd look elsewhere.
I'm working with a 30w ipg mopa. 4ns -200ns
Machine is a +GF+ LP1000U
Can you tell me which fixed pulse rate your standard 30w fiber has?
Everything is based off 200ns
Can you please recommend a Fiber Laser that will engrave gold/ silver / other metals for my jewelry busienss . Under $3,000. Thanks
The only laser I'd check out as of right now would be one of the EM-Smart units. Get as much wattage as you can afford. That's as small as I'd go. Jewelry can be particularly reflective and can require very focused power to ablate sometimes. Here's a link to our review of the Basic 2R: ua-cam.com/video/er8vi_uCcgY/v-deo.html
I Just ordered a Cloudray fiber laser marker with a 30W JPT LP-series laser source, and are a bit confused. Is the JPT LP-series a MOPA laser? If it is a MOPA laser, it seem to me that JPT only make MOPA lasers. What is the different then between the LP series and the M7 series?
While the LP units use MOPA technology to manage their frequencies, the pulse duration is locked at 200ns. With an M7 that pulse duration is unlocked and a new variable is able to be changed. LP units are not "true" MOPA lasers in practice.
A great introduction to all this. Can you tell me what power i need for marking bright white and black blacks on colored anodized aluminum?
Any wattage will give you a nice bright white on aluminum, but fiber lasers will not mark black on that metal. Aluminum just *doesn't* go black.
Which one would be good for guns
A 50w Raycus or JPT should be sufficient for 99% of what you'd want to do with firearms.
I am looking for something to do scroll work on gun slides. Nothing crazy out pocket. What do you suggest
We have a link to the buying guide in the description :)
I have a 30 watt raycus but I want a 50watt for stainless steel where did you get your JPT
Mactron, link in description or check out the buying guide www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide
Thank You so much for explaining in such a Simple, Lucid and easy flowing manner. Our company delivers fully machined cast parts weighing a few grams to over 9000 lbs single piece in fully machined / finished condition. For very large Heavy Parts which do not fit on the table and can only be placed on the Floor, How do we engrave a QR Code on them using a Portable Split System. Thank You in advance...
So glad we could help!!
great video.... what power should i buy to cut 1 or 1.5 mm think 925 silver, steel or brass (for jewellery making)?
If you want to do a significant amount of metal cutting at volume, a small metal cutter might be a better move due to more efficient cutting + compressed gasses for assisting the cut (though thats another cost to consider). If you're okay with going slower with a galvo but cutting is a significant amount of your workload, consider 60w+ to help cut down on time investment and help with lens selection (which can also improve your focal range and depth) as you can use more power and increase speed to get through the cut faster sometimes. If cutting is less frequent but still happens often enough to be a concern, I wouldn't suggest going lower than 50w.
@@LaserEverythingthank you- what do you mean by “a small metal cutter”? This is a different type of laser? Any details would be helpful, appreciate it and all you do!
Gantry fiber (fiber cutter or metal cutter, often used interchangeably) with gas assist would be ideal for bulk cutting metal and especially better suited for it, where a galvo fiber would be ideal for engraving.
@@LaserEverything Thanks for the fast reply! Ah ok, I didn't realize the titles were used interchangeably. I was actually looking into this the other day and couldn't find an answer, so since we're at it I'll ask- why are gantry fibers better for bulk cutting?
(Fwiw- I'm close to buying a fiber laser for mostly cutting of jewelry out of .6mm-.9mm sterling silver and brass. Will probably go with a 100w JPT MOPA. But if things take off and we get into heavier production I'm curious what the options are)
My working area is ranging from 50mm L X 50mm W up to 300mm L X 300mm W on the minimum of a 0.2mm thick copper sheet. Can I engrave using only a 50W lens on various sheets without cutting through or do I have to change lens accordingly?
The larger the lens the weaker the beam is going to behave. I usually recommend using the smallest lens you can fit your artwork in.
Any specific reason you don't have Wisely on this list?
"I just haven't met you yet!" 🎵🎶
Hello hero ❤
What do you think of the Raycus p30Qs?
Great intro information to fiber lasers. Thank you. The background 'music' makes me nuts though.....
Really old video. We don't do that anymore :)
How would I go about getting your library setting for my 30 watt fiber laser?
The parameter libraries are available to everyone who supports the channel over at masters.lasereverything.net/ ;)
Im looking to add one to my gunshop for enfraving & stipping. Im told I should I should go mopa? Will a non mopa stipple? Thanks
A non-MOPA WILL stipple, but a MOPA would probably be significantly easier.
I want to marking gold 20w. which will best for me.
Gold is really reflective. I'd recommend at least a 30w. The 20w will do it but it will struggle. I always recommend the Mactrons which are linked in the description!
i have been looking for a laser engrave machine for my jewelry business . in which i mostly be using 5 to 6 inches area and mostly sterling silver and stainless steel will be my material . i might like to cut out 1mm sheet of these metals too. can you give me a advice which will be good for me in both money saving and in long term jewelry business ?
All of our reviewed recommended brands can be found at www.lasereverything.net/buyingguide/
Highly recommend checking it out! For cutting 1mm sheet I'd really be looking at 50w + options, even then these lasers aren't really designed for cutting so expect it to be a long wait - will take patience.
Femtosecond fiber laser with 30 watts cuts metals or not
I don't know, these are nanosecond lasers.
one question - do all these machines have red-preview light that shows working area or contour? im mostly interested in JPT machines
All galvo machines should have a preview light system to indicate where it will mark.
@@LaserEverything you are very helpful thanks! Just another question: Are MOPA and q-switch lasers (raycus) the same in speed for engraving deep black engravings? If I understand this correctly the MOPA is only slow in color engraving but the BLACK engravings go similar fast as other fiber lasers? im talking about a 60w machine. thanks.
I'm interested buying a Mactron Fiber machine. What is the process of buying one and import to US?
Here you go: ua-cam.com/video/g21l9B5-b1I/v-deo.html
Hi i just want to mark stainless steel charms 25mm... 30w?
Should do just fine.
@@LaserEverything thanks.. I am going to get it Cloudray. Thanks for ur video